 George Bruno with the 21 Report. We are at the 21 Summit in Orlando, Florida. The year is 2020 and I'm talking with Jesse Lee Peterson. Welcome to the show. Thank you George. I appreciate it man. Yeah. It's amazing. It really is, isn't it? Nice. Yeah. What are your thoughts about the event so far? Number one is that it is really good to see men running it and organizing it. Everything is just moving because normally the women take over and the men kind of sit back and do nothing. So that is really, really impressive. And number two, just see the men working on overcoming, coming back to the natural state. The speakers that I have heard have been amazing too. So you have great speakers. I mean, the whole event so far is just amazing. Yeah. It's really, really, it just, I don't know the word, but enjoyable, informative, amazing. A popular phrase in your work with your work with men is rebuilding the man. Yes. Tell me about rebuilding the man. Well, we have to bring back, we're working on bringing back God's order of God and Christ, Christ and man, man over woman and woman over children. Because if you don't, things will just get worse as opposed to getting better. And the women and children need the man in the same way the man need Christ. But in America, and I think around the world, because I'm counseling with people around the world, that order is broken. So it's the woman that's over the man and over the children and things are just getting worse because the love, the light, the power is in the man. He represents love. He represents God, right? And so if it's not coming from above down through the man, it's not going to work. But instead, it is coming from below up through the woman through the man. And that's not love. Women don't have love to give. They receive love. The stuff that they're giving out is anger. It's hatred. That's why everything ends up so screwed up. So we'll just bring it back God's order so that we can not only change the man, but change the family and change the country. You rebuild the family and society by rebuilding the man. Absolutely. That's the only way thing. I mean, I'm looking at originally we started out just for black people. Yeah, because I realized that blacks were suffering not because of racism. They have been said, oh, racism is Jim Crow is slavery. And I'm like, no, it's not that at all. Because I used to think the same thing when I moved to California. I didn't think that way in Alabama. Where did you move from Alabama from Alabama? I grew up on a plantation in Alabama. Okay. And I grew up under Jim Crow laws. And I never thought about it slavery and all that because we had character in the family, you know, parents married, grandparents married, everybody working in a short and they're treating people the way they like to be treated. But when I went to California, listen to people like Justin Jackson and others, and they would call it racism. And because I was so young, I believed into it. But then once I woke up, I realized it's a spiritual battle and has nothing to do with color. It's either right or wrong, good or evil. And unless black people realize that they can only get worse rather than get better, you can't blame the white man for it. It's the white man has nothing to do with it. Materia things will not make black people better. They have to return to the father in order for them to get better. You know, we were talking before about you started out working with black men. Now you're working with men all men around the world around the world. It's amazing color has nothing to do with it. Nothing to do with it. I counsel with men on countries that I didn't even know exist. Yeah. And it's the same battle. It starts in the homes where the mothers are in charge. And even if the father's there, but the father's not over the mother in direction thing, they will still turn the children she would turn the children away from him. And the kids will grow up insecure, angry, hateful, subject to the woman, all kinds of stuff happen. And so it's the same spirit all around the world. It's not just happening happening in the United States. Not at all. I was a little surprised to find that out. But it's it. And then I wasn't surprised, but it's the same spirit. Yeah. The destruction of the mother and the weakness of the father because he doesn't understand how to deal with the mother. What is the most common issue with men that you have encountered? Number one is that they all have an emptiness. They're yearning for their fathers and they all hate their mothers, all of them. I have not met one yet that loves his mother. And that's the common theory because when mothers impose her will on kids, she calls them to fall away from God, from innocent. And they wake up with an anger, anger, and you become subject to like whom I'll make you angry. But that's the primary problem. But then in between that, you have insecurity. They don't know how to be old. They don't know how to work. They don't know how to deal with life in the right way. They have fear and doubt and all that kind of stuff. What is your commentary on the violence in cities? I live in Philadelphia, which is now the second most violent city in the United States. Yeah. And our homicide count is right behind Chicago. Yeah. What's causing that? What's causing of an instant lack of guidance by men. And then the fact that people now are afraid to speak up and tell the truth, especially if blacks are involved in it, and these cities are, the destruction is coming for them in black, right? So I have this new thing that I say now. If you want to destroy something, rent a black. But if you want to be a rent a white, because it's happening around the country, and no one is saying anything about it, they're afraid to speak up about it. White people are afraid. What fear they've been called races and all that stuff. And most black people, not all, not all, not all, not all, but most black people hate white folks. And so even the Christian blacks, and so they'll happen to see what's happening to the whites. And so they're not saying anything about it. Now they'll get rid of the punishment of the law, because these people don't have the law, the laws of the heart to guide them. And so we need the law of the land to guide them, but we're taking that away. And it's just going completely out of control. But because people won't stand up and be honest about it and deal with it. What's happening with fathers? There have been men, boys and men have been on attack for a long time now, starting at home. And then when they go out into the world, they're told that they're rapists and robbers and, and molesters and abusive and all that kind of stuff. And then turning men into a female nature by making them, convincing them they're girls. It's okay to be emotional, men should be emotional. They're deliberately, and some of them know I'm not aware of what they're doing, but they're deliberately attacking men, even when they're little boys, in order to keep the light of God from coming onto the earth. They hate God. So they hate men, whether they realize it or not, because the man represents God, he's the Son of God. And they hate him for that reason. So they are destroying men, trying to get back to God to keep the light from coming on. Is there hope for men? Yes, absolutely. And I see it here. That's what I see here this weekend, hope. And I feel confidence that things are going to get better because men have suffered so much. And now they're seeking how to overcome. And when they overcome, the world going to change for the good. And a lot of millennial men who are starting to wake up, they're forgiving their mothers so that God can forgive them, and they're returning to their fathers. And that is going to bring on a change in the world. And this has nothing to do with race. I didn't say it's their hope for white men or hope for black men. It's men across the board. That's right. It's all men. And you know, God said we all have sin, and so it's all men and all women. And but Christ turned it around so we can overcome it. Excuse me. And so that is starting to happen right now. And it is all men, all men. It's not about race or not about color. It's not about male or female. It's about we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against spirits and prison politics and wickedness and high places. So it's about good versus evil. Men represent good and women represent evil. And that battle evil is working through the woman to destroy the man who represent good, meaning God. And it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that the women are less than. It just means that's the spiritual what's happening right now, the spiritual order of things. Sometimes I hear the phrase on your show, were you talking about uniting the races? Uniting the races with truth rather than dividing them. And what's happening is for so many years, 70 years or more maybe longer now, we have had organizations like the NWCP and Jesse Jackson and Lewis Farrakhan and other radical organizations dividing the people with lies. Oh, they hate you because of your color. They hate you because you have money. They hate you for slavery or whatever, right? And that has divided the races like never before. When people wake up, it unites the races because they see it has nothing to do with color. It's about the spirit. It's about character. So we're waking people up or pointing them back to God. He's waking them up. And they can see, hey, it has nothing to do with the white man. It has nothing to do with Richard Paul. It's the character your relationship with God. Did you see any racial divide here at all this weekend? It didn't even cross my mind. No, not at all. And we seem to have all races here. It was just men helping men, fellowshiping together, different conversations and just doing the thing. Nothing about racism. It never occurs to me that there's black men here. I look at guys like Elliot Hulse or Coach Greg Adams. It doesn't cross my mind. That's a black man. I look at him and I go, that's a man. It just doesn't cross our mind. This is why I have been encouraged to white people to speak up, stop being afraid to tell blacks and others that I'm not a racist. Your issue is not about racism, that it's about the lack of character. I have nothing to do with your problem. Your family, your parents failed you. I had nothing to do with that. If white people started speaking up, that would definitely help a lot. But so far, they are afraid to do it. And now that we have Black Lives Matters out there, you heard of them? Yes. Just turn on the TV or radio in your ear. Black Lives Matter is an organization that was found about a bunch of fat, black, radical lesbians. I never thought I would see today when men were bowed down to them, police officers and National Guard. Other bowed down to a bunch of lesbians. I knew men were weak because they were subjected to their mothers or they were subjected to all women. But I never thought I'd see today when they were bowed down to lesbians. That's the radical ones. And so that's because men have not stood up. That needs to change. And those Black Lives Matter people, they're mad at the wrong thing. They're really yearning for their fathers. They're looking for a father's love. But Satan's telling them that they need more stuff, material stuff. And they're making white people pay a price for that. Now you have an organization in Los Angeles for men and then also a church. Tell me about the thing for men. Well, Bond is for men. It's a brotherhood organization of a new destiny. And as you said earlier, we are rebuilding the family by rebuilding a man. That's for men. But I started getting all these women contacting me. Oh, I need help. You know, blah, blah, blah, right? So we started working with women too. So church is for all people, the family and everyone of all races. And every first Thursday night we have meetings for men only. And the third Thursday night of the month is for ladies only. And then we do counseling and help find jobs. We have a home in LA for boys for men. And we have an entrepreneurial academy where we teach these guys how to start businesses and things like that. We started a credit union. So we can loan them the money because a lot of them don't have credit. And it just I've seen amazing things happen over the last 30 years. Where do you see yourself in five years? That's a really good question, right? Nowhere. The one thing that happened to me once I overcame the father state and returned to the father, I can see how to live in the present and forget about the past. It doesn't really exist. It doesn't exist or the future. But just let God will be done now. And he will take care of tomorrow if tomorrow should come. So I learned to just live in the present. As a matter of fact, when I I've never had a plan for bond. I had no written out plan. I didn't know what was going to happen. It just I'm just taking it on day by day. And I'm just open up by itself really different things came about. And I think that how sons of God should live without a plan because we don't know what we want. Of ourself we can do nothing. His will be done through us. And we will represent him. And it's amazing what he would do through us. I love that. How can people find out more about you and your ministry? They could go to rebuildanddemand.com, rebuildanddemand.com, or jessieleapuderson.com, jessieleapuderson.com. Excellent. And everything they need to know is at those everything. And then some. Okay. It's amazing. Excellent. Yeah, but check it out at jessieleapuderson.com or rebuildanddemand.com. Excellent. Yeah. Well, thank you for being on the show. Thank you for being here this weekend. We hope to see more of you. It was honor to meet you. I was thinking of your brother. He's been taking us around. And he showed me this young picture of you in like 18 or 19, real tall, big muscles. Yeah. So when I come back next time, you and I go out and get into boxing ring. We'll do it. Yeah, we'll do it. Two old guys in a boxing ring. Nothing wrong with that. That's right. I love it. Your daddy didn't leave you. He left your mama. Yeah. Isn't that the truth? Daddy's love their children. And when they leave, they don't leave their children. They leave the mother because they don't know how to handle her. But the mother tell the kids your daddy left you. Yeah. And it's just not true. Yeah. Absolutely not true. That's something amazing. It is amazing. And you know what the heck with the handshake. Get over here. All right. Thank you. I really enjoyed it. Thank you. All right. Thank you. And thanks for your hospitality as well. Okay. That's amazing. You heard it here, folks. Jesse Lee Peterson.