 Welcome to Toffley TV, and Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas, Baz! Merry Christmas, all the best to everyone out there. We have brought an old favourite back, the debate. I think that's the tree. I mean, that's just Christmas, innit? It is. You expect that? An old favourite, every year. There you go. We brought the debate back, and listen. 2019, getting very, very close to... Twing, twing. That I was going to say at the apocalypse. But you know, 2020 as well. That was on the 12th. So what we are discussing is the team of the decade. Our teams of the decade. Evan. Of course, Evan, it's Evan. The debate, it's Evan. So we're going to be discussing our team of the decade. First of all, we don't know each other's team. Let's just make that very clear. We don't know each other's team, so it's going to be a surprise when the name comes out. If there are surprises to be had. We're pretty much playing four, five, one, or four, three, three. Whichever way you want to look at it. My line in the Olympics are four, three, three. Now when Evan, it will go through a four, five, four. Well, no, you want it to get it back into shape. Got it? And then when we're attacking, we tend to four, three, four. Exactly, exactly. Tactical. You know, that's what we're looking at. I mean, because that's Evan, isn't it for you? That's been like the, essentially, the formation of the decade, hasn't it? Eras, hasn't it? And that's Graham, isn't it? It's great that Duncan's gone back here and just gone. Four, four, back into you. Isn't it? Yeah. And it's great to see, but yeah. But that's what we're going back to. But we're going back to four, five, four. Well, we are, because at the end of the day, with the players we've got, the players suit the system, because that's what we've had for the last 10 years. So you've got to stick to what's been at. So, let's start with the goalkeeper. So let's get our little card. Let's get our little card. OK, how are we doing it? We'll just put it down. OK, OK. Make sure it's the right way. Nice, yeah. OK. So we're going to lift it like that. So we're just going to lift it up and show each other and then show the people at home. So our goalkeeper of the decade is Tim Howard. Both of us have gone for Tim Howard. Gee. I feel like we're doing the draw for like the Euros. No, with the truck half an hour to get to that. And it wouldn't have made any sense. So, Tim Howard. Tim Howard. Why have you gone for Tim Howard? Good question. Because certainly in the first part of the decade, he was very good for Everton. Listen, overall, he was a brilliant goalkeeper for Everton. The last couple of years, he kept too long. He should have gone after the World Cup 2014. His stock was massively high. Everton either should have utilised that opportunity properly or sold them on then or whatever because he declined. Even if he didn't go after 2014, 2015 and this season he should have been gone because we've seen a drop off the next season. But up until that point, and including the World Cup, he was a brilliant goalie for Everton. And I really liked your pick for the dude, but still making fundamental mistakes, I think, as a keeper. I think he's got a bigger ceiling than Howard. He's on the bench. He's on the bench. I think he's got a bigger ceiling than Tim Howard. But at the moment, Howard was steadier than what Pickford is. Now I would say... I think Howard commanded this box better than what Pickford does. That's what I would say. Pickford's obviously better with his feet as well. But for me, I think, like you just mentioned, Tim Howard had a few more consistent years in this decade. And you've right, 2014, we should have cashed in one way or the other, and we did, and that's our mistake. And listen, it's great that he's back as the ambassador. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of it, and absolutely we lost the question. Yeah, he's at Everton. You know, we're his club. And maybe if you'd asked me like a year ago, or maybe a year and a month ago, I would have said Pickford, maybe, maybe. But in the last year, I don't think he's kicked on like he should have kicked on. And I just think Tim deserves to be in the Everton team. I just think for me, it's a consistency thing. Like you say, I think Pickford possibly sealing his hire that he could reach than what Howard did. But for me, he's still not as consistent as I think he should be. And the other thing with Tim Howard as well is that he was playing in the Everton team, but didn't have a lot of money either. So do you know what I mean? He performed when we had a small squad in some games. You know, it was a mix of maths, but... He was a leader as well, wasn't he, Tim Howard? And he was a leader, you know, he was a leader on and off the pitch. And I think that's why he stuck around on that. And he was brilliant when under Martin's, that face he is, and when he finished fifth that year, he was brilliant. Yeah. Really well. So, no complaints there. Right back. Get your right back card ready. Make sure it's the right one. I don't think there's going to be any surprises in here. So, you've got to say the B as well. Right back. I mean, you told me to get it. You both had it the wrong way. You both had it the wrong way, Seamus Coleman. Good old shades. No issues there at all. Seamus Coleman. I mean, you can see what I'm doing here. I like it. The floor, the team's going to be on the floor. I mean, you can't see it. Well, we all know, they can't see it, but we all know. Yeah, no, literally no. Couldn't have been anybody else. We had, you know, no one. Tony Abbott was in there at the start of the decade and it was a good dependable. Defensive mind of fullback. Seamus broke into that side in the under, towards the end of Moises era. And as I did his own and it's been absolutely phenomenal there. He was the best right back in the Premier League for a few years. Yeah. I mean, we had that position. I mean, he didn't invent right back. No, you know what I mean. He basically showed up the importance of having an attack on fullback and other teams went on front there to hone it. 60 grand. You know, walking, you say, a barm. He's been here 11, 10, 11 years. Absolutely great sharing, great fella. But more importantly, up until the leg break, was just a fantastic footballer for Everton Football Club now. He's not been quite the same since the injury, but also that's not just bound to the injury. The teams changed a bit as well and things like that. And like you've said, it's the emergence of better versions of shame has come and have come, which means that the low block's popular, so your fullbacks have got to be even more skillful and things like that. But what a fullback for Everton. Yeah. The position's gone on to almost be right-winging now. And I don't know if he's quite got the skill set to be up there and do that anymore. But what he was when he first came into the team and is mid-20s. Incredible. He could have had big moves. And then 26, 27, you know, he could have. He could have. He might have wanted me every year. And he stayed at Everton and he's an Evertonian and he's the club captain now and he embodies a lot of bad Everton. I don't always agree with everything he says, but that's fine. It's difficult. He's coming from the right place though. It's difficult though, isn't it, for someone like him because his heart's in the right place. So when he's saying things like, we're not good enough and we're going to do this. He can only talk about himself, can he? And he might, even though his performances this season in particular, haven't been up to his standard. I think he's still, in his mind, he's still one star for Everton football club. You've just said it there as well, that the evolvement of that position, we're seeing to see that he's coming to the side this season who's more like a winger. He's certainly not a defensive fullback. He's just got a better skillset than Coleman, but Coleman, for coming in, he's dirty now. He's brought back into the side recently with the ribbons he played, with painkillers and injections and with brilliance against United are all trapping stuff. So, you know, there's no doubt for me that, and to be honest, he's been out right back for most of the period of time. Colgate had a little dabble there. John Stones had a little go there every now and then. John Joe. John Joe Kenny, who may well go on to be the next right back, who knows, but Coleman, to stay at the top of your game. Coming from where he come from as well, Slago, and he didn't start great for him, and he had that injury with the throw when he was out for a year and bent figure away, and you were there and you made it on all of that left back. You know, a lot of kids wouldn't have come back for a standard character to come back. You know, and we've had the pleasure of shipping them as well. They've lovely felt left up here. So, no doubt for me. Yeah, absolutely. Right, left back. I wonder who this is going to be. Left back. Yours might be this, isn't it? You know, get right, go on. Get your do that. Yours. That's yours, friend. Three, two, one. Yeah, Leighton Baines. Leighton Baines, no doubt about it. There always was going to be Leighton Baines. As much as I love Lucas Dean, he's simply not been here long enough. And therefore, it's the consistency of Baines, and Baines for me. I mean, I love me attacking players, when I was a striker. I loved me forwards, but Leighton Baines is one of my favorites ever ever in place. I absolutely love the feeling. Still absolutely brilliant now at 35, but what was a £6 million from Wigan in 2007? You know, within 2020 almost, and still in evidence for your team. Absolutely. Oh, you know, in the squad. He's absolutely brilliant. That left foot, like a wand. Yeah, and I think it's, you know, 35 in shows, he's still a back-up left back, and you know, and the fact that he can almost just ask him to go and do a job, and he'll do it for you. And he's quiet, and he's calm, and he's reassured, and he seems to be a big character there still. Yeah, I think he's like, well, you've got Seamus who'll come out and give it. You can, you almost feel it coming off him with Baines. It's a little bit more reserved, but you still feel like it's still there, but he just does it a slightly different way. You know, when we beat Chelsea, Duncan Ferguson's first game as the manager, the caretaker manager, and he come on, and at the end, he's got all the Duncan, and it's almost like we've been here the longest each other. Do you know what I mean? That is, that's for us. That's for us as much as anyone else because we've seen all these people come and go. Especially for Baines, who's kept that consistency pretty much. It's only eight that's called Baines. That's all there is. It's only eight that's called. Well, it's the position. Yeah. If it was years ago, he would still probably be half left back, whereas if full backs were just like, you'd get forward now and again, but he only has to worry about the halfway line to his own box. It's only because, like you talked about with Coleman, it's the up-and-down business that you've seen Leucadine being able to do it. It's kind of caught up with them. But the other thing I want to say just for you going, when he hasn't played, the amount of times when you watch that tunnel camp thing and whatever, he's waiting when he's being subbed for Dean, and Dean comes off and he's kicked. That's important. That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying about that quietness where with Seamus, he's the captain, you might see him more front and centre and signing things and leading the charge. Baines is a little bit, I think does still, does those things. Video recently was his birthday and Tom Davis is jumping all over him. He's saying, get off me now then. Like he's nature and Tom. They love him. Exactly. There's like 14 years difference or whatever it is. 13, 14, 15 years difference. But there's still no saying relationship. You can tell he is that leader. And you know what? It's a great example for Tom as well because Tom is differently normal like 21-year-old Premier League footballer. But you see him round time with Baines and having coffee in the photography and that's how it's that great. Don't be afraid to be yourself. To be yourself. To be yourself and I think that's... Do you want to just finally on Baines? Do you think we did miss a trick? Maybe not pushing him into midfield like it was suggested a few years ago? Just to get more out of him? Yeah, possibly. Because like you just said, that position started to change and as he got into his 30s he couldn't keep up. But it's football intelligence in his brain to maybe play as a shitting in the centre of midfield. We're just seeing Mason Holgate play at Old Trafford recently in the defence of midfield role from the centre back. He telling me Baines couldn't do that. Baines could easily do that role. And I don't know whether he could now. He probably still could. Listen, he come on at Old Trafford after 15, 20 minutes and was up and down. He wasn't all the way through the game but he was up against a kid. He was lightning. He didn't have a kick. So Baines, for me, could probably in an emergency. To be honest, a header at United Game, I wondered whether Duncan had put when I seen Blaise Delfall and I thought I wonder if Baines will go in there because for me he could do that job. But you've right maybe a couple of years ago when we needed someone with Garner or whatever, when Garner was nid rather than maybe when Sniadlands form was poor. Could Baines have done that? I think he could because he's good enough footballer. Good on the ball, good tackleer. He knows the position. He knows the defensive mind of the position. Possibly Phillip Lam didn't he? Something that was always muted. Right, let's go to the centre back. Right side of the centre back. Let's see what we've got. One of we got, one of we got. Three, two, one. Jagielke. We've both gone for Jagielke and we've both spelt it right as well. Yeah, we've both spelt it right. Phil Jagielke, again, a player who, another magnificent servant, captain of Everton Football Club. Saycum Sansa's were slightly different, could still be at Everton Football Club. In fact, should really still be at Everton Football Club. I will probably be playing after that if he were to play at least six, seven, eight games we'll need to see. Four million and one pound. Get him out of here. Absolutely incredible. Loving, still loving now. Brilliant centre back. And turned Arsenal down four times, I think. Well, he was at Everton. When Arsenal were in Champions League, he could have quite easily gone and done more. Certainly there was, I think, in his early 30s, he'd come back for him when he'd come on to them again, and he was like, nah, my club won't want to stay here. Incredible. Brilliant defender, very quick. The set of league quick. Where people wouldn't think what he was running. Give everything. Okay, he wasn't the greatest captain in terms of paying the people's faces in that, but just led by his example and he was absolutely brilliant for us and what you'd give now to him, that's 23-24 in this. Imagine him, like him, and, like, say, Yeri Min and now, I think will be a great partner. Obviously, he's scored the all-goal as well, scored the goal of Ramfield. I mean, you don't need any more than that. No, he swung the peg at it and swung the penalty in the semi-file against United. Yeah, he had his moments. And a still mate, right? He was in the Arsenal as well, didn't he? He scored against that, the winner. He came back in, he hadn't been in the team. And well, in fact, he only knew he was playing half an hour before he was keen, so killed, didn't he? But... You've put me off the ding, no? Little comeback. But he was just... Just an all-round. Sorry, but I was going to save us. In on nine, I'd still maintain if he wouldn't have got injured a couple of weeks before the cup final because that was a big thing, obviously. We lost him for that and broke up that partnership that we had, a superb partnership. We would never know, but obviously, come back from that, come back from that injury. That was amazing. To be at Everton pretty much the whole decade as well, by one season it shows you. And he played up pretty much all the time as well. It just shows you how good of a player was. So far, you look at the players, Coleman, Jag Elchor, Baines, and you look at Howard and the quality, how much we paid for those players and the quality we got out of them is incredible. David Moyes. David Moyes, you say? David Moyes, you say? Yeah, and the other thing as well, Jack, which I missed this pre-season, was how good he looked in the time when he'd come back. Back to training. Back with this one. Sheffield is nice again. No, the nice fella that will interview them as well. Dancerway. Very Dancerway. Absolutely big character. I think, depending on what you want to do, I could see him back at Everton next season. Maybe doing a bit of work with the kids and stuff. It's whether he wants to do that, but I know that he was doing a little bit before he left, some night training with the kids and stuff, just to keep your hand in. I could see him quite easily as a pundit though. Looks good. Talks well. Good lad. I played for England as well. Played 30 odd tries for England. Played in the 2014 World Cup. Yeah, cos he had a duct and he got the blame for Suarez. When it was blame heaven, even though it was other people. He was cutting European championships again. Again, like all these plays so far, at Trophy. If we don't want to cuff with these, these would be legends. When people throw up, legends are the club. For me, legends are probably too strong a word, but when people throw up club legends, they are players who want something because they're in your history forever. I've won something. When people go like Duncan Ferguson, there's no legend he is, he's the champion to win a trophy. These would have been on that same thing, had they won. To me, that's the most frustrating bit now. Is that the amount of money we've got we could have won something if that money would have been them. But what a set of players. How about just £3 million? £60 grand. So £13 million is something for four. You could have had them for a new man. Let's move on to the left centre back. This will be interesting. I think, maybe. Sylvan Distan. Baby. Again, another one. £5 million. Wasn't perfect. Made the mistakes, but always stood up when he'd made the mistakes. We all know what happened in the semi-final of the back pass. We all know, but he piled his hands up when people were having a go on Twitter, he said, tell me what your seat is, I'll come and find you after the game, and they weren't there. When we first got him, I wasn't really enamoured with him, I always thought he had a mistake in him. And then he just gradually got better, and don't forget this is a play that we got when he was like what, 28, 29? With less got going. He had a big business. Pacey. Big unit. Strong. Well disciplined. Just committed. Possessionally loved him. Good defender. Okay, wasn't great in distribution, but that's what maybe seen him out the team when Martin has decided he wanted to change things up and have a ball playing centre backs. Fans don't want ballpoint. He took the brunt of it because and you know what, this thing goes a long way for the fall of Martinis. Does. Because, does. When he took him out of the team and replaced him, essentially with John Stones, and you know, he was just sitting around doing nothing and obviously he was a clear leading the session and people liked him. I think a lot of players took his side over it and didn't like the seatment of it. And when Westam came in for him he had a chance to move and Martinis blocked it and then left him in the stands for the rest of the season. I think again, fans and players were dismayed by that and it's all those little things that I think made people question Martinis and so, they stand with the man. He was the man behind the scenes. Swansea, wasn't it? When we got B3 and he was Swansea. He had to go with Martinis after the game because they had to go with him. And he was like losing because he wanted us to do this thing that we weren't doing last season. And he got dropped and that was it. He didn't put him back in in the players. The players lost respect for him. I think Samuel Letty was there at the time and he couldn't believe how Westam being treated. It broke the dressing room and put out in players minds. Then once you start doubting the man, it's dead easy then to let him take the blunt. You're not performing because you're not believing what he's saying. You could pin Martinis' downfall to that night at Swansea in the league club. Which was bizarre because he had made it was a weird week that because we batted Walsberg 4-0, 4-1 on the Thursday. We played Palace at home on the Sunday and he made six changes or something and we lost at home to Palace. And then we went to Swansea and he made a few more changes and we got B3-0. And then we had Liverpool on the Saturday and instead of playing the strongest team against Palace and then resting them off for Swansea, he'd mixed it up and we'd lost both games and I think that's what Distan was a few of the players on the team. But he was a brilliant servant and the other thing is people have got what Distan I guess. But no-one who's come in will say anything. Michael Keane. John Stones is the only one I'd say that people might say. Right. And John Stones, listen, John Stones had some great performances for everyone. But again I think Martin has ruined him by telling him that he was he could do all those stupid things he could do Christains and all that. When John Stones was a defender with headbands on and running through brick walls he had the potential to be anything he wanted and the other side should have come after because he wasn't good footballer but Martin has put him on a path to be in to be in this ball playing centre back and he never laid his full defensive thing so when he's gone to City he's never turned out the way he was because he's still got the mistakes in him because there was no there was no there was no stakes with Martin he never I always felt like with John Stones after the first season because he got in halfway through the first season he played it stock with Alcatraz he had a couple of games he was back out and he got back in and when he won up 3-0 at Newcastle he was throwing himself in everything he was brilliant and it was like who do we play here because we've got a real genuine kid and then halfway he started the next season he was in the team, Jack was in and out and stuff like that and he was brilliant but then after that I felt like a vanity from Martin it was almost like we were just training him it ended up in Man City he could have been Chelsea do what you want doesn't matter and all of that and you're like we're a football club that are trying to get better you might have won pro we don't live a pool on Chelsea or whatever so that, for me I started the disconnect with Stones because also there was no responsibility it was like he'd do a croif, give a penalty away against Swansea, we lost our own do a croif in the box, tell the crowd to calm down like fuck it on about calm down cost on us gold diving in in the last minute against Stoker giving a penalty away, we lose there was lots of mistakes and the Man City had allowed them to get away with it you're right, it stunted his development I used to tell people he's going to be England's best defender for Tenure he's amazing and then it started to drop off and then I was thinking hang on, is he? because I've seen a change in him and it wasn't a change for the better it's that classic thing of I'm too good for this now and he's gone to City now I think I'm on City's defence, John Stones isn't it I just think he's up, even getting there to he's not better than Le Port you know, Fernandi, he knows a better defender than he's a centre mid you know, things like that because he's stopped being the thing that he needs to be which is a defender who's really good with the ball where he's standing to someone who's really good with the ball and can defend a little bit look at like Van Dyck say for argument he's like a ball playing centre back he can defend he's got his moments as well where people run behind but in general he's a brilliant defender who's really good on the ball he hasn't sacrificed the defender for the other side of it and that's what John Stones seems to have done and John Stones he wanted to go he put a transfer of request in and Martin said no, he stays for the extra year and to be fair to him for the extra year he tried he don't know what I did you manage your dictate to what you can do if you've got a manager, you think he'd do it under Duncan he wouldn't be doing it he'd be getting told to defend first wouldn't you I think almost with any manager of where to show there'd be signs of people do what you're supposed to do and the other stuff will come a big move will come for you but he didn't manage to let him drift and that's the worst thing he could have done and number one he lost that he had that affinity with the crowd where the headband was just so that night you felt so excited about what was coming it was a big statement that night and we were winning games that you wouldn't normally win like we won at Sumberland with Della Feiyu and that was our own goal but it was coming it was coming and we won John Stones has only got himself to I think Martin I'll be honest, I think Martin is stunned to Barclay I think he's stunned to Della Feiyu and I think he's stunned to Stones the only one he didn't really stunt was probably Romley McCartney he was there like three players that I think he thought they absolutely welled off and that was the problem he didn't know how to handle them he didn't know he didn't know how to he couldn't give them any kind of tough love no no and I think all three of them didn't go away because I think all three of them were huge you know when people are saying oh you can't do that to a 19 year old maybe you can we said this on the bit he was going to have Stones but yeah there you go Howard Coleman, Jagiel Cadist and Bains in both of our sides so far we're going to move into the midfield now so this is basically like you hold them in the midfield that I would say whatever whatever I mean I don't know one, two, three we just upside down Barry it's me it's me again come to Everton from Manchester City on a years loan people were ffuming people were like what are we doing what are we doing, what are we signing just don't worry about the camera I think we'll be fresh I don't think anyone can see that come into the side next to James McCarty on the same day it was just fantastic came in and it was his first game he got the block in against Chelsea got the block in against Chelsea from that moment it was just like from that moment it was just like we like this fella and for three seasons three seasons was absolutely a model professional ironically he went to West Brom a bit less of a model professional keep your taxis away from but he was brilliant brilliant and he was at that age where he was just everyone was just class he knew exactly what his limitations were he knew out and that first season he was getting back into jogging into left back when Benes was going up the pitch and McCarty was going into right back most appearances in the Premier League was me break that record eventually he was brilliant for us the only occasionally he'd get caught out and he couldn't get back which was again the manager should have been dealing with that and going like this and don't go so far but what a footballer he'd come in just every in the bar and was just absolutely class left foot was brilliant he was clever at playing balls forward brilliant just then clever fouls where he just took them when he was out of position he was just brilliant due to what to be fair and we got him and you could see why Bradford Benitez wanted him to go to Liverpool all of those where he can argue about Javier Lonce but what Benitez wanted him to do he probably would have worked at Liverpool cos he'd gone to city and was brilliant for city and then he'd come to us and he was absolutely brilliant but three transfer what a footballer and I remember he'd come to good he was the best player on the pitch after we'd said he was you know he was dumbo fantastic footballer no question on why we were going that day listen he was 38 when he went and as a centre midfiel player it's difficult isn't it oh he's still playing but cos he's never had loads of pace and I suppose if he just sits I wonder if he could use just a midfiel if he just sat in front of your back too he'd still be a brilliant footballer cos he knew the game he was brilliant for us he never put a foot wrong is there anyone else that comes close feel Neville? Neville was a good saving for Evan he'd done well, done very well and again it's like all of these players and it's a common theme with Evan every single one of those players so far the legs caught up with them not one of them went before this other guy not one of those players who were putting in our team of the decade went without us going and we loved him to stay for a few more years all we showed him at the right time every one of them including the goalkeeper we'd done at the end of their Evan career show Phil Neville was another one really good but the wiggin game when he played centre mid showed and that season it just caught up with them from nowhere it must have run in the family cos Gary Neville said the same thing he was playing and he was just new he knew the leg Phil didn't know he just stopped playing and he wouldn't go anywhere else no, James McCarthey who could probably sit in there with brilliant for a team again another play of Martinis another play of Martinis a very common theme the plays you didn't get in the team were ribbon by Martinis weird so Gareth Barry without for me without the shot I mean Snyddlin you could argue so let's move on to I don't know well I've got three midfield players well I've got three midfields this is just like a general midfield three, two, one oof I've gone for Fellainie you see for me he played three years into the decade whereas that's fair enough I've gone garner by the way so yeah do you know what I didn't even think of garner well I'll be honest with you I didn't even think of Fellainie Fellainie was I thought to Kayle then I thought he went and spent $3,000 no listen I just thought that Fellainie had such a big influence on the team and how we played that that I want to put Gareth in my team but no listen I'm just going to stick to my 11 because no but the fact that I didn't even think of garner makes me obviously that I filling your opinion he was more influential so that's fair enough you see I think Fellainie for me was more influential for our team no no he wasn't he was very influential I thought Fellainie was brilliant no he was brilliant listen man has got rid of him because he didn't want that style of play that's great that's no problem but Fellainie was a player he stayed five years he stayed didn't he six wasn't he hang on 20 so he stayed for like oh no you're right man has sold him after three games into that season man United took him Moise took him it was the right move for everyone I think he ruined he ruined he ruined Yelavitch just clear because Moise just kept on playing the ball but he was so influential and the way he transitioned into a centre into into that number 10 role almost Cale's role and he just becomes such a I think we forget how important he was he died in the physical presence he gave us and he wasn't he wasn't the player we sort of bought we thought we'd bought this midfield this whole midfield and he wasn't that when he came to the Premier he didn't have the legs for it Moise quickly realised that and put him either as a forward or a second striker or you know whatever in the Cale role and it just worked and even though he only played the first three years the thing about it is that we've had such a turnover for players that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who played more than three years for us in the decade including Garni who only played what he played three years for us till the season so it's really hard to find anyone who's played more than three years so I just think he was such a massive influence the way we played that I just thought he should I can't argue if you're putting him in because he's a brilliant player forever and he was instrumental and especially when Cale went he became even more important you know, one of his best performances I ever saw in the evidence yet he was a centre mid against Manchester City he was outstanding and for a couple of years before Cale while Cale was still there he was a brilliant midfielfplayer absolutely brilliant don't forget then to be playing the two strikers when we lost our forwards and got us to the FA Cup final almost you know when the Jack was out Fellain he was brilliant absolutely fantastic footballer forever you know was marvellous I went for Ghana because 7 million quid we got him didn't know what we were getting if I'm honest that had seen us play Villa twice and didn't remember him from the game and come in and was just unbelievable absolutely unbelievable now okay we can talk about what he couldn't do but we've seen this season the importance that when he's not there I think Snidel and hampered him in the first season because the first five he was just a man of the matter he was amazing and then he dropped off because Snidel was in his way but then we realised how to use him and he was brilliant absolutely brilliant for us and particularly when he didn't get his move to PSG my admiration for him went up again because he didn't suck he just got his head down and drove us through games and the last three form until last season he was amazing what's interesting is both players these are the first players and it's funny that we've picked one each these are the first players who've got a big move Garn is so far he's been working, he's been brilliant for PSG and I think everyone else is seeing how good the player is for Laney he didn't really work simply because Moyes bought him and he was almost like part of the thing of Moyes but then Marino came in and Marino loved him he liked him but he was used he was almost that go-to player but he was never the first judge player he'd have been better Garn was brilliant he was he was you're absolutely right and like you said there I remember he played Huddersfield away and I just thought he was going but that's the night he's going he didn't play he's gone and what he'd become was actually what I'd always thought he could become was more of a player more of a box-to-box player and he did become that and he was the number 10 when he started at Laney and then he just moved back and we'd go on to Gomez next to him he had a bit of silk and a bit of stale and he could there was the way he could get about the pitch and that's why I put him in my garth barri because he'd got someone who would defend and we saw that transition card of the way and you've just mentioned the day it's how much we've missed him this season it's shown you how big a player he was so but I think it's weird I didn't even think of him it's weird on its own I was trying to think of players going back and thinking of players but he'd be in the conversation he'd definitely be in the conversation it's interesting that that's the first one both of them got a big move and it's the first one we disagree on so to speak I'm not even disagreeing I'm just saying it's the first one there's no way I can go no he wouldn't be on my team there's no way in fact I could see both of them being in there and my next one missing out I could see my next one missing out so maybe that's the compromise we'll make if we make the combined 11 so let's move on to the next one go on then 3, 2, 1 Ross you're not playing we've been here we've gone and gone and fallenian listen Ross Barclay for all his faults and all his taxi adventures could have been anything he wanted and this is funny cos he's another one who left the club seeking something but never really went with the tools that people thought he had and the most important tool is he don't think he's got the brain to play when I say the brain what I mean is by that I'm someone with the football brain I don't think he ever quite developed cos again when Moes was in charge of him Moes was tough love he made mistakes in it and I want to develop him and then Martinis couldn't help himself first game knowledge he scores it was a great goal but right or wrongly Martinis just allowed him to do whatever he wanted and I don't think he ever nailed him down to I mean we all remember his goal at Newcastle but I don't think he ever like plotted a course for him to make him better to hone those natural skills that he had to become a top player and also hone the football intelligence playing off the cuff too much and not realising and now he's 26 playing for Chelsea and he's in and out the side and he's been replaced by Pula Sitch who you can see the football intelligence and knows where the movement is and just doesn't just do things and that's the thing that's let Ross down I think it's that no one understood that maybe he wasn't the sharpest player and it was all football because we used to watch him and the amount of times you'd pick up the ball and run with it and then it's final ball would always let him down by it to be a yard shot or whatever or over hit and that's where he's like oh you know what if you just add a little bit more on that but then the amount of times we've seen him play those behind Ross, behind Lukaku in the first season and now it all worked and how brilliant it was and when he played on the right yeah well when he played on the right with Seamus and it was actually Seamus getting injured that curtailed that position when he was coming in off the right and then Seamus would go round the side and Seamus got it and I remember going into the Mesaad barbie and Seamus had been injured I think a few days before and I was excited to see Ross playing that position and he played with who played instead of him it's the thing he could be more many be just three man he played by back instead I don't know how Pennington played Pennington played so but whoever it was couldn't get up with Dan and Ross ended up, he didn't have a good game and for me it is that again like John Stones but even though he's in the team it is that if maybe you'd had a different manager at those early stages I mean don't get me wrong Matt has set him up to be a good player but didn't follow it through remember interviewing him and he said he asked me if he was the best player in the world and he said thank you man he obviously believed so much but it wasn't that he couldn't hone it the thing is you've got to give when players are developing you've got to give them that that tactical awareness as well about what your position is I just think he let Ross do everything off the cuff so if you're doing everything off the cuff it's just what happens to you no one's teaching you go look at this look at that one you've got to study the game as well because some players naturally will see things and just go bump and you're in and you can't teach that like Messi he couldn't sit down like that and teach him stuff he could himself because he'll know what he does do wrong and he doesn't make these runs and he'll put that in but a lot of this thing is natural ability Ross has got a lot of natural ability but doesn't have the awareness and I think if you just allow someone like Stones, if you allow them to do whatever without giving them any responsibility you have to do this job as well as that and that's what Cooman kind of did but then but Cooman was too relief and too Cooman was too harsh on him at first it was like I remember us going it's exactly what he needs someone to kick his ass but Cooman then drove a wedge between Barclay and Everton Ross I know that to know him and he was signing he was signing a new contract and Cooman was like hang on a sec we need to do this and then the wedge then he started falling him out in the media blaming him and then all of a sudden you've got someone in your ear going this fella doesn't like you I think it's alright to do that but you need someone else in your coaching staff to go come here mate I'll put them in the buffer and maybe they didn't have that maybe there was no one at the club at the time or whatever to go over someone and go and Ross Ross took things to heart when you've seen that at Wembley in the semi-final and stuff so yeah but I still think since he's gone he's never been able to play no we haven't and that's the bigger thing isn't it transition with the ball breaking the ball from R half into D half and playing Rom in over ever if we had him now with some of the players we've got to be brilliant because we have Guilfee Sigarton who replaced him he's never done what Barclay done or I Barclay didn't do what Guilfee done banging all kinds of weldies in regularly but Ross done a hell of a lot more work than what Sigarton does in any game because he was in the game it's just that maybe if he would have had Guilfee's brain maybe he would beat the player if he could because physically the stature of him is amazing both getting that scene let's move to the right side this will be conservation I'm interested to see if you've gone with okay three, two, one and yours will fly down so you've gone with Delfair I've gone with Charleston okay go on then Delfair basically with Delfair again another one Martin has ruined but I haven't seen anyone in this decade play on our right hand side as good as what he was in his two spells when he was on form on his best year the looker who you know when he was here when he first came and he got into the team he was breathtaking at times no we think of the Derby, the 3-3 the Liverpool couldn't live with him and just I remember Stoker home he went on form he was just incredible when he got in the injured he was out for a bit and got back in but again then Carter for home brilliant goal and doing things that we hadn't seen us do playing those balls through to La Cacu from nowhere he was key he had something like he had some mad assists by Christmas one year and me dropped Martin this drop the second year I think when he come back he had something like nine assists by Christmas and he took him out of the team so he was devastating at times for us Delfair you absolutely devastating and I don't think we've had anybody who's played that position Walcott had a couple of good games and fell away Morales in the decade they'd have five, six, seven and then they'd get injured or fall away and I don't think anybody give us what Gerard Delfair you give us in that position but again he's another one he's only played that 10, 15 games maybe out there and I understand why you think he doesn't want to be interested in the other side but for me for an exciting player in a decade when no one's nailed that position down that's why I went to Delfair I was thinking of Delfair you and I do understand why you put him in the team because you're right he had spells where he was absolutely brilliant and he can do things that other players can't do and you still see that at Wofford some of the things he does but for me he's got no consistency out towards the end at the end it was exactly saying Cuman was just like you can't run at the end it was like you can't run you're no good to me if you can't run I can't play it if you're blowing out your arse after 20 minutes but I think Wofford have done well for them because they just played them off the run I think his position was that evident too soon when he started with Cuman he played the first game when he was up front he was brilliant the first game in space he should have made a 2-0 and we should have won the game the week after he played Wofford he started physically didn't have the attributes because they were like big rocks at the back he bought Roman and moved them out wide and you know that experience of being an evident made them better and maybe his next move whether it is someone like a top club who will use them as a squad player and he'll grow into that I could see that I could see him going to an Arsenal or a Liverpool or somewhere like that where he could understand that he's brilliant but he's not always always brilliant and he has to come out the side don't forget Barthre Beef's a striker 20 odd goals a season and we brought him on the wink well what you just said there's a team out there at the moment who could use him because he's if he went into like a front 3 and all the other cogs were working he'd just come in and be that cog as well I hope he doesn't I'm only mentioning it because they're after him but it's a tremendous talent it's mad though isn't it that just shows you that I think a player is an example to me and you're the only other player I can think of is Lee and Osmond Aaron Lennon don't put on screen all that spells but no one's been able to nail it down that's what I'm saying and that just shows you Morales again there's been a death of quality that's why I've gone for a Charleston because I just think that for me even though this is only a second season the goals he scored the influence he has on the team he's huge and I think I look at the inside decade and I think who's been consistent and I think nobody but I think which Charleston has been consistent and he was consistent all last season and he's been consistent so far this season and I wasn't like trying to find a position for him I just thought when I looked at it I thought he played right hand side and he'll do a good job and I think I wasn't looking at it going well he's only been here a season and half and I'm going he's done really well for us I'm going I love him and I think technically he's brilliant and no but again he'd be one of my people I'm going now but I think he's a fantastic player but the Charleston is incredible and again there are five a season on loan then a season half permanent then I went back but at the end of the day whatever anyone says Barca took him back played in a few games and then Wathford came in things had changed with us and Wathford bought him so it wasn't even like it wasn't like we got and now Coom and let him go to AC Milan on loan and he barely enjoyed that but Barca took him back and he ended up selling them and when they ended up selling them we went in the matter for him so again it's not someone we sold or moved on we ended up losing them so it's not it's not terrible is it so there you have it so that's the right hand side of my field let's get into the left hand side of my field so I've gone for Pina and you know my feelings on Sweden Pina because I just think even though even though he didn't play loads I just look at what he who we've had that left me and the contribution of those players and just think for me there's still not been anyone better you know his second spell he was still coming up with the goods he was still scoring goals and in the end it was injuries that could tell them for me he didn't play enough and I love him I think like 07 to 10 he was by far the best player by far and even into 11 but then 12 he went to spares and then he came back and he was still brilliant but it just wasn't the same well if I'm going to put the charlots in I can put Pina mate he's brilliant of course you can I've put the charlots in for everything you've just said comes up with the goods works his socks off, scores goals can play anywhere across that front and there's been brilliant absolutely brilliant for us ffais it's ever been plays if it had been 0 to 10 it would have been one of my first names and I did think about him I did I was thinking he would come back and he scored the winner against Chelsea or the gold face goal against Chelsea and he scored against spares I remember him coming on at Wigan and his first game back and he was made up a black hit, I loved him I still love him but I've gone for the charlots that's fine because I went for the charlots so just on the other side I suppose he's probably more anyone else on the left you know Aidan McGee Bernard, Meralas again I think about it I'll say what though there is a question about I mean Billy scored some of the best goals of the decade we could do the goal of the decade I mean that's maybe something we should do there is an agent for Meralas actually being in the team same with me because when he was on it he was on it he played he came in 2012 so he was like 12-13 he played and then Martinis team he was in but he did contribute and then after that he played as a number 10 under Martinis at times a way at Wolfsburg was absolutely brilliant behind Lukaku you know I think he was you can see this plays you can just immediately dismiss you stop and think about it no even under Cumin he had his moments you know man sitting around me and he was number 10 behind Lukaku we beat him for and he was amazing he had his moments come up with the guts with three kicks at times obviously the penalty thing in 15 kind of room and he ruined his own thing by going on about champions league clubs instead of just getting on with it and if he come in then move he was giving it the Al Belsin but he is a good player I mean listen people have probably should have had more alas over Delify and I don't understand that and people have got to have pina over Delify and I understand I love pina and he is one he's a bit like the guy on a fill anything I'm looking at him and going you know he could easily swap them for me it wouldn't matter but I went with Bitty on the left because he's played predominantly on the left of us so let's do our last one centre forward Lukaku Lukaku is my play of the decade he's my play of the decade forever I just think obviously he's our Premier League Coleman's man he's our highest gold scorer in the Premier League just consistent all the time coming first game Westam every week bang bang bang goals all the time great hate hate himself as well score goals against a lot of the big clubs I remember like you just mentioned that 3-3 when we drew with Liverpool how bad he scored and he was just he scored 2 didn't he because he hit the free kick didn't he for the second goal some people say bit of a flat-back bully but score goals against big clubs score goals in some big games he didn't score enough he never scored on the field let himself ban in the semi-final but listen when you look where he is now he scores fun all the time he's just gone on to be a top player has he gone on to be as good as I thought he was going to could have been maybe not but for me just that level of consistency we came week out hit the target I remember when we saw the stupid stat of you could take all his girls out we'd still get sevens but that was a factual stat it was but it's nonsense because you won't get into that position because you don't beat Man City 4-0 unless he scores the first goal the amount of times you score the first goal or the second goal to see the game and for me he's probably when you look at the team when you look at the team as a whole he's probably maybe the only world-class player you know that team's a good team the years you know the charlots and may get there but La Carchu is a world-class Garnham may be if he's been in Paris Saint-Germain a few more years but out of that La Carchu he's done it well he's scored in the Champions League he's scored in the Premier League 16 so he's a top, top player absolutely top player he's a fantastic goalscorer for Everton yet I have me issues with him for his mouth I never loved him but what a strength of hope with goals you put him in this team now Everton are in the top three for me with the quality of play he's got on that side Man City having him and the charlots and the people have been out he'd be fantastic but the problem with him was he never developed the team because he had the goalscorer so he's become a lazy coach because it was like we're going to do this and we're going to press and it's like no he's scored La Carchu we just scored goals and everyone else just do what you need to do to get the ball to La Carchu and on the mat is it was it was waking he had formulas playing him off the right and playing next to me nine and all that he was devastating and then things changed it's weird all man I just can't lose the way isn't it now when you think back like some of the stuff Martin has did in the first season incredible how you can lose your way cumin had a way of playing with knowing what he was getting I think what it is comes down to especially I think with Martin it's having a formula but it's not your formula so therefore it's like the eagle takes over I can make this better I don't want to finish fifth I want to finish top four so I'm going to make it better and it's the eagle that takes over and for Martin as he probably thought I'll bring John Stones in we'll start moving the ball quicker through midfield or whatever I want to play it I mean we know that because he said about the set pieces and all that it's weird though isn't it and then on the flip side you've got who had an idea of how we wanted to play but then got the cock who scored and goals and just sort of went no we'll just do this and and it's only really mwys use that consistency of I've got a way of playing and I'm sticking to it and there'll be up and downs where I'm sticking to that well a bet I mean Liverpool, Manchester City the best coaches have their own way of playing and stick with it don't they know how to do it and they keep it Martin has stumbled upon this Cumin came and was a lazy coach like you said and you know maybe if you would have had Ron the second season would have been fine with all in your shines because we've had someone at the top end of the pitch you put the bomb in there so we probably would have bought class and time and Rooney and a disc that needed you know what I mean and maybe that would have worked out better but he didn't he lost you know when Ron went on the door he lost and we've not been able to replace it the charlissans the closest we've had which was 15 last season or 14 you know he's doing well this season so hopefully he can take that man and the art the art has to come back I mean the other thing I would say about Ron is he's a player that other teams genuinely fear as well and we haven't had any of them we haven't had any of them so and we've sold them for you know a packet under a million this and that it was packets out and we got 90 million for him so you know he's a so if we let's say so if we combine the team then our teams so we're going to go Howard Coleman, Jagielch, a Distan Bain Barry so it's I don't mind getting rid of Barclay for Garner so you'd want Barclay out Garner in Tate Ross out Fellainie and Fellainie like that Richarlison so it's whether it's Delifeu or Pina I'm going to bow to I'm going to bow to Pina's consistency no I'm going to bow to Pina's consistency even though I think that Delifeu was a more explosive player than Steven Pina and probably if someone done them off they probably played similar amount of games in the decade he's probably well he was and I love them more consistent so I'm happy to I'm happy to put them on the bench so combine team Howard Coleman, Jagielch a Distan Bain Barry, Garner, Fellainie Richarlison, Pina I think that's a good side I think that would get six no that'd be alright that'd be alright that'd be in the race for the top four this season because what you'd have is you've got someone who's dead intelligent sitting in front you've got legs that can get around the pitch you've got aggression and someone who you can knock the ball to and he'll kill you've got pace and power you've got craft and ability and you've got someone who just puts the ball in the net in fact that's winning the league that's as good as they are said win the league at them who's the manager over the decoyd over the decoyd not until offy she's got a lot of plays there that'll be my use for me give it to Duncan I would give it to Duncan till the end of the season give it they're both at elevens and then I combined eleven of the decade let us know your thoughts in the comments do you agree, do you disagree I don't expect everyone and I'm not even going to argue with anyone because everyone sees football different and everyone has their favour and everyone will fit the teams together or whatever but they're our individual and that's our team with the decade do you know what else that team had everyone of them was a hard worker as well as hard work in the school goal that day when we got beat around by Stowe was one of the best performances I've seen from an evidence centre for me he scored two he was everywhere and you could see him on the half rail I had no problem loving him no you loved him I appreciated how good he was but love him isn't what I felt for him you should love him now though if he came you'd have to first thing if you'd walk over and go sorry I would say sorry no sorry for just for not loving him you keep this shot and I'll keep you this that's fair right but that is a good side that side there'll be people like you say you'll differ and that's fine tell us why you differ tell us why you don't think isn't it interesting though that is the back four the back five is all moises the back well with defence yeah and Pinar and Fellini so seven of our team in the decade is moises two of Martinises no sorry one's Martinis two of Martinis Barry even look at you one's Cumin one's Cumin and they're probably no I'd rather have silver than Cumin I mean you want to validation but we couldn't fit them in yeah 1,000 1,500,000 1,500,000 are you on the bench why you keep on saying decoyd decoyd see me the decade oh I was completing something else there you go let us know your thoughts in the comments let us know your team of the decade let us know Merry Christmas Merry Christmas see you soon on puppy TV so want to know