 Yeah, it's fucked the war. The whole war on drugs is fucked up. And so for you, you were just focusing on ecstasy, huh? Well, ecstasy was my primary product and what I got my reputation for But when you branch out to have 200 people working for you You start to become like a these these outlets became like one-stop shops for various club drugs ketamine I've my own LSD chemist. We were getting crystals from the rainbow family in San Fran and Various Mexican pharmaceuticals and X Valium somers GHB, but yeah, I mean the ecstasy was the bulk of it It's a crazy thing like we're in a process now. We might see MDMA legalized with the next two three years in North America Well, I think it's made me more empathogenic I almost got beat to death by some drunks when I was a teenager And I wouldn't go out and dance one talk to women I was too self-conscious and when the rave scene began I took ecstasy couldn't stop dancing couldn't stop talking to people all night long for over ten years I was in that mindset, but you know, you just sit sit down with people and You open your hearts and tell each other your life stories even the new Mexican mafia I told you that every time I went over to it was it was a lethal atmosphere And they look they look like they want to eat me except for the one night. They said We're gonna have ecstasy party tonight. Our women are coming over most of us are doing it for the first time I brought in the pills get a call in the middle of the night. We've run out bring some more pills Brought some more pills over and they're all over like these sweaty overgrown teddy bears smiling away Picking me up burr hugging me England man, we love your pills telling me their life stories So, yeah, it does it breaks down those barriers Yeah, for me personally for me like ecstasy or MDMA. It's been my personal choice of anything And do you think that's made you like more feeling towards people? Like I've been in the psychedelic scene for a long time I used to pop ecstasy when I was young like crazy like double-stack triple-stack Mercedes. You name it I was in the grave scene long fucking time. I was raising the beaches. Oh, yeah Mitsubishi's white Mercedes boot telephone double-stack double-stack the whole nine yards. Where were you raving at? Fuck Toronto, man. We had a huge rave scene Oh, imagine you was about a massive scene in Toronto massive massive like the 90s like mid 90s even like early 2000s It was crazy way before the whole like Electronic music festival that you see today. It was like real raves raves Yeah, for me me currently I do MDMA therapy like pure 100% Guided facilitated MDMA therapy. You do that presently Yeah, yeah, I do everything MDMA Ibogaine Silicite bin like for what's the legality of that in Toronto So ketamine is legal in facilitated Medical establishments There's lobby groups right now where we might even see within the next 18 months that MDMA is actually MDMA psilocybin is already sanctioned for research in certain laboratories here We're part of the super cluster. So you have these researching oldies MDMA is not site a psychedelic Bell just group it in there for the sake of conversation We could potentially see within under two years MDMA psilocybin be completely decriminalized and then put in a category of Use with medical treatment Yeah, I think all drugs should be completely legalized and decriminalized. Yeah, but then there's no business and the war on drugs People who want the drugs to be kept illegal are the gangsters and the people chasing the gangsters because like you said it's big business. I always say if you want to like If you want to make things better in North America specifically with the cartels in Mexico legalize everything Better the whole world man everything from knife crime in London to Juarez being the murder capital a lot of that revolves around gangsters competing for that black market profits and I learned this writing about Escobar written several books about Escobar I'm writing the longest book ever about him presently It's over a thousand pages long Pablo Escobar story to the first two installments are out But he could get coca-paste for $60 a kilo in the 70s when he was starting out and because of drug laws cocaine was going for 60,000 a kilo Jesus so making worthless plants illegal has made those worthless plants more valuable than gold And it's the biggest profit opportunity in the history of the world for criminal organizations Yeah, I was reading a fascinating deep dive study in Mexico where the cartels have taken over avocado plantations because the profits for avocados are Better than some other forms of drugs, which is it's interesting. Yeah, you're right. I think it's epidemic You know what I mean by epidemic is it's funny because at least for Ontario, so where the province I'm from by Descripts written by doctors and so this all documented we have one-third of Ontarians who are Prescribed some form of opioids so oxycodine's Etc. Now, that's one-third of the population is on a script But you can take something like CBD or you can take psilocybin or you can take camp or you can take any of these non-addictive two three-time use and you're completely Alleviated of your pain, but the problem with that is not a sustainable business model like opioids are highly addictive You got to buy them every single month. So it's like the writing's on the wall man People say it's always funny when people tell me it's like, oh, are you taking a drug? I'm like, no motherfucker What do you think you're popping your popping you think you're Advil and Tylenol every day is healthy You think you're fucking oxycodine's healthy or you must be fucking delusional like I mean at the peak of the war on drugs You had hundreds of thousands of potheads going to prison What gives the right of people who are popping all those pills you just mentioned and smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol? What gives those people the right to put hundreds of thousands of people in prison? Yeah, you choosing weed that is moral Relativism that is not what the prison system was designed for I'm a member of leap Law enforcement against prohibition their cops and they say look We joined to put away the bad guys And if you look how crime has been defined for millennia person a harms person be murder robbery rape Drug traffickers like me not making excuses for but if you put hundreds of thousands of people in prison for weed possession Who's a person with weed hurting? Yeah, themselves possibly but that that's the most So yeah, it's just a whole thing is a big Shakedown on the tax base and you're right the floodgate is open because these evil fucking politicians that have kept drugs like Cannabis illegal. I'm not talking smoking. I'm talking the oils these kids that have had these cancer Seizures and going to commas and they can die and all the kids who've died and all people can't have died because the fucking evil politicians I've kept this illegal. They can't go up against those babies anymore like Charlotte in America Politician will not go up against a sick baby because they will lose votes So the floodgate has opened and people are waking up all over the world Queen Victoria's doctor said This is the most medicinal plant on the face of the earth and the earliest laws against cannabis with the pharmaceutical societies of California they wanted it to be made illegal so people could not grow free medicine in their own backyards Yeah, Canada used to be before World War one the biggest producer of hemp because we have good weather for it And it's versatile Then during the wartime efforts of World War one World War two they started growing rape seed Which is canola oil which stands for Canada oil and so the big pharmaceutical companies came in. Well, let me rewind before pharmaceutical companies they were they were Chemical companies then they went into pharmacy, right? So they provided all these oils and materials for wartime efforts and then they made it illegal for hemp to be grown in Canada Like think about a native type of what's not native, but native planted natively there You can't overdose from it has so many benefits you can use as biodiesel you can use it as CBD You can you can get hemp strains and then make clothing out of hemp There's like multitude multi variable usage of hemp. No, no, no, that's illegal It's illegal. You can't you can't plant it. That's illegal Henry Henry Ford made a car out of it. Yeah, and he said why are we depleting the world's resources when we've got We just grow these plants and replace them. Yeah, and the whole world economy Was hijacked by Harry Anselinger and his gang William Randolph Hurst and Then and the Duponts and that's shaped the whole world that decision Because Harry Anselinger said to everybody around the world all the different countries if you don't sign on for these drug laws America's not going to trade with you and Harry Anselinger was the future son-in-law of the Undersecretary of the US Treasury Melon and melon had investments in fledgling farmer petrochemicals All these other industries. So it's just one big Corporate cabal that stopped it but now like you said the hemp. There's so many applications for hemp. Yeah, I was in I was in Holland Towards the end of last year and I went to the hemp museum I'm thinking about writing a book called the war against weed So I was doing some research and everything I saw in there just just tied right in with what I've been finding out on the internet But you're right tides are turning like here in Canada, I think for the second country after Uruguay, I believe that we fully Legalized marijuana so you can grow your own thing like three four plants you can grow their stories everywhere There's obviously pros and cons for this But like Portugal's a good example where they decriminalized all the drugs and 70% drop within Within I think it was murder rates suicide The prison system when everything got better by just decriminalizing the drugs Well that program started in my hometown witness and really yeah, what what they did was Heroin use was off the scale shoplifting car theft burglaries disease transmission from dirty needles AIDS So they said alright, let's just give these guys, you know medicinal grade heroin. It's a worthless plan It's not going to cost the taxpayers that money to source this and that's what they did and the Usage went down because the users weren't afraid of getting arrested. They spoke to the health teams Like Portugal got their users down from over a hundred thousand by counseling them to less than 50,000 and then all the crime collapsed the shops were so happy that they were going to roll it out across the country and America found out the DEA found out the White House found out and one call to our Prime Minister and that program got shut down Portugal it was Portugal that picked it up years later. Yeah That's crazy Yeah, I think I think Canada might follow Portugal like You know, we're we're leading the scene in a psychedelic therapy, especially in Vancouver We have area called East Hastings, which is like they have safe zone so you can shoot up in this like exactly how you mentioned Good and especially Ibogaine like Ibogaine has shown and we've been studying Ibogaine for a long time where? two treatments of Ibogaine for heroin addicts It's been it's been shown. That's I think up around 77% of people within that study Got clean after this to two treatments of Ibogaine. Wow, that's phenomenal Think about that just two treatments and you're not addicted to heroin anymore