 O, wrth gwrs gawr i'w dweud o amddangos LGBT HIŽSTRYMON, rydw i fyddwch chi fy ngwysig ar y swydd? Diolch. Rydyn am ychydig ond ac yn gweithio ar gyfer ond 35 oed. Mae'r ffordd yn ei debyg ar y ddollfod wedi'u gwneud y dyfyniad, yn y lle hynny'n ddod ar gyfer y maes, ac mae'r ystyried i'r LGBT yma yn gallu gwneud yma yn ddyn nhw i'n gwneud, fel yw'r ddyn nhw'n ddyn nhw'n dyfyniad, ond y cymryd yn ysgrifennu, ystod dyn nhw'n ddyn nhw'n ddyn nhw'n ddyn nhw'n ddyn nhw, fawr, wyna describes that our community's not had everything and did to it on a place only in the past 20 years or so, we've been able to adopt and got to marry. So a lot stuff has happened but in context of this club it's really important to me because we were the first club in the football league to fly the Rainbow flags, that said something to me that says this is a place where fans are accepted, no matter who you are. ac mae'n gwał i gyda'i ffordd. Rydyn yn buswydd yn ffordd cyntaf y gyfrannu hwnnw, gan y chyfl, ti'n gweithio'u gwaith hwnnw o gysylltu'r bobl. Rydym ni'n gwybod ni'n gwybod y ddod, yn edrych yn feddwl y cyfrannu aon, rydym ni'n i gwybod i'r bobl. Roedd hynny'n dxud yn fawr, a mae'r bywyd yn gwybod i'r bobl yw eu fan. Mae'n astud yn ysbyt i mor hwnnw i ymgirionedd, Ac mae'r ysgol yn ymddangos y Llywodraeth Prif Weinidog yn gweithio'r ffordd fel y byddai'r Ffwrdd Cymru, mae'r cyrraedd ymddangos yn y ffordd. A'r ffordd mae'r LLGBT yn ymddangos yng Nghymru, mae'n gwybod bod yn gwybod oherwydd mae'n gwybod i'r ffordd. Mae'r gwybod i'r gwybod i'n gwybod i'r llwydd. Mae'r gwybod i'n gwybod i'r gwybod i'r ffordd, a'r gwybod i'r cyfrinsio'n gwybod i'r gwybod i'r gwybod i'r ffordd. .. traditional creation that really counts back to that real desire... .. on support and be a trave value when what I was previously .. is a lot of people really close to me... .. who are Final compromised with the community as well... ..and it kind of gave me that motivation to really start to stand up and... .. be able to deliver more, speak more openly on it... ..and being a supportive-as-I person... .. I can, from my position as a straight man. ..to try and support that community. Roedd gennym i ddim yn cyf Literachol. Roeddwch yn ni ffwrdd wedi bod yn llawer o'ch ddod yn ymddiadau a hwnnw i canolol mwyaf ynglyn â'r cyfeirio ac mae atwydau. Rydym am hwnnw, dyma i cefnod dechrau, dyma i gyd yn effigio fyrdaeth i fynd, mae'r cynhyrch yn addysgu i amser ac efallai dyma ar y cydynweithio ar eu cynhyrch gydaig yn eu maen nhw eu cymunedau. Dwi'n lle fyddio i'r hunion er mwynhau addysgu i'r cyfiterwydd. gyda'r genesol mor bwysig a gweithio'n dweud â'r pwysig y dyma, a wnaeth o'r gweithio a chweithio'n dweud o'n gofyn nhw'n diogelio i yo hynny'n cadw a nhw'n treu'n dechrau i ddiwedd. Rhaid, Richard dod mewn o'r mynd rŷn ar arwain, ond mae'n golygu arnyn nhw, ond rhaid drwnd gyda chi'n feithio? A oeddodd yn gweithio i chi'n gweithio i chi hwn o'r clw, ac mae'n gwheithio pan fydd yn achos ei wneud? Efo eich cwp f酤der, iawn i'n cefnwys Gwmyll Llywodraeth Cymru, gwnaeth i Gwymlu Hawthorffaer, a mae cwp sefydliadau a'r cael ei dweud, fe ddim yn ei bain i ddechrau. Rwyf wedi cael eu chymethau ei ddysgu i'n yn ôl iawn – chi wedi cael ei ddechrau. Felly, mae'n angen i'n golygu i chi i gael d ressusio'r fan, Ond yw'n cwyrd gan'r cyfgaredd o ydda, mae'n meddwl i'r fan a'r hun i'r ffan. Ond ry'n meddwl iawn yn ymddangos i'wtu ff Tran. Mae'r rownd o hwn yn gwirioneddau sy'n meddwl i'r ffan i ddepthor. Mae'n gweithio'n ddysgu'r ystafell, mae i'n be fflwydo ac i'n gwirionedd. Yn ymddangos i'w cwestiyne ar ar- occŷr, mae'n thrall i'n dod diwrnod rwy'n croes. Ond rwy'n gweithio'n wneud o wneud y mae'n gofynnodau a chyfrwy Youtube. o'r maes ar gyflawni. Mae'r fan yn fwyaf o'r cyflawni gyda'r gweithio sydd o'r newydd. Rwy'n meddwl gyrfa'n gweldio cyflwynt. Mae'n meddwl'n meddwl o'r polisi ac yn y llwyst. Mae'n meddwl o'r taru gwell o'r ffordd o'r cwb. Mae'n meddwl o'r gwbl o'r rhan o'r cyflwynt. Ond mae'n meddwl o'r cyflwynt o'r llwyst. Rwy'n meddwl o'r cyflwynt. Mae'n meddwl o'r cyflwynt o'r gwaith o'r llwyst o'r cyflwynt, i'w ddechrau i ymweld, ond mae'n dechrau i ni i gael y Llywodraeth yn y Llywodraeth yn y gael i gael ei ysgol yma, ac sy'n mynd i rhaid i fynd i ddweud i ddweud uchau'r arweig ym inverse. Ond, yn fwrth y ffordd, mae'r cyflwyno ar gyfer, mae'n rhaid i fynd i'r cyflwyno ar y Llywodraeth yn y Llywodraeth, ac mae'r cyflwyno yn ymweld i'ch cyflwyno ar y cyflwyno, ym mhag i'r gallu cyflwyno ar y cyflwyno ar gyfer. ddylu cyntaf ar gyfer cyfnodd, dwi dweud yw'r hyn sydd o'r ddeg yn siwr. Oes ychydig i fynd i ddweud ymgyrch, os i'ch ddweud o'r ddeg yn siwr, ac oedd yn ymgyrch gyda'r cyffredin, oedd yn ddweud, oedd yn y ddeg yn ddeg yn y ddeg a'i cyffredinol. Os ydych chi'n ymddangos i ddweud hynny, maes i ddweud hynny'n ddweud hynny, oedd yn pob o ddweud hynny, oedd yn ddweud hynny'n ddweud hynny, Ie. A'r rhaglaethau o'r brésglu sy'n dweud lefnod arwain o boblau? Fo pob i chi i ni? Fo pob i chi i ni, mae chi maen nhw'n gweithiau ychydig o ysgrifennig sydd wedi'i gweithio'r rhanau sydd o wneud yn gweithio'r byw. Rhyw o'r rhanau… Rhyw o rhanau existau i ni, a'r dryf yn dweud yn ei chweithio eich gweithio'i gweithio'i chyfnodau. Mae'r hwn i ysgifetau a'i weithio i'n gweithio at y growff ddechrau'n ngosti i'u arwain – Ciao, eich fod yn ôl o'r newydd y gwaith. Felly yn yw'n rowf, mae'n gwaith yng Nghymru gwybod, ond mae'r newid i'w grofau gaf, gyda chi'n gweithio, rydych chi'n gwneud, a'r grwp ffoennas, i gyd, â'r myfyrdd mewn cy enseig, gofyn nhw'n yn ôl, ar wnaeth ar beth, yn ôl ysgolor iawn, ar gyfer iawn, a'r sefyllau riggol, o'r ysgolor i weld, efo'r piwfish, ar gyf Love, gyda'r ystod, dwi'n hyfrant o'r hyn o'r fwynyddgyrch, dwi'n hynny'n rwyntio i fynd i'ch cael o'r sefyll gyda'r yng Nghymru, maeth yn gweithio'r cyntaf o'r cyfnod ar y ffordd o gyflwyno'r ffordd. Fe oedd yn ychydig yn ysgrifennu ffordd rhai. Fy oedd gydig yn ysgrifennu'r cyfnod, mae'r tynnu yn ysgrifennu ar y swydd ac wrth gwrs, yn ysgrifennu'r cyfnod sy'n eu rhai a'r ysgrifennu yw'r GBC, ond mae'r cyfnod ysgrifennu sy'n gwneud sefydlu. O'r gael i'r gyfnod, mae'r hawdd sy'n gweithio'r GBC. On ddim yn rhoi wneud ond mae'r pwysig iawn. Byddwn yn argyrchu hwnnw bydd hyn yn ei wneud i gael eu pwyllwniol. Sef hynny'n ymell o gyroedd y LGBTQ ffost beth yn cael eu pwyllwyr gennymu hefyd. Felly chi'n dargarfod o varwyr, your o'r ffordd yn cael eu pwysig eich ffordd yn cael eu pwyllwyr. Rwy'n yn cael eu pwysig yng Nghymru. Mae oedd yn cael ei wneud. Ac yna'r dŷch yn y cwm yn ymdweithio. Ond yna'n ffwrdd y cwmau a'r ddweud yn gweithio, ac mae'n gwneud o gwybod o'r ddych chi. Byddwn ni'n gweld ei diel jei, ac yn y bwysig wedi cael eu gweithio, ac mae wedi cael eu gweithio'r ddweud mewn o'r 11 a 12. Yn gyfle i'r cyffredin y gweithio ar hyn, mae'n gweithio'n 11 o'r 11 o'i gweithio ar y 12 o'i gwaith, neu'r wath rwy'r gwaith i mi i mi. Felly mae'r dylai'r ddechrau i mi. Mae yma. Mae'n bwld, rhaid i'n bwld, ond mae'r rhai o'r dyddai. Mae'n ddiwrnod o'n cyfrifio ar y basiwch a hynny mae'r ddechrau i mi. Mae'r ddaf am y cyfrifio. Mae'r ddaf yn gwneud. Mae'r ddaf yn gwneud. Mae'n gwaith i mi i mi, ac mae'n gwybod i mi, ac mae'r rhaid i mi rydyn ni wneud, felwn, rydyn ni wedi'u fwyaf, fel y ffamili ac amser, gael yw'r adegau mwy, a rydych chi'n cynnig gyda'r 1% yw'r ffaith yn eu bod, ac mae'r gwblion yn cyfeiriad, Mae'r adegau'r ffaith yn gyfeiriad a'r adegau'r adegau, ac rydyn ni'n meddwl i wneud hynny. Mae gwrth i'r gyfnodd, mae'r ddim yn speth, mae yma'r govetio'n euunes, ar hyn yng ngynhu'r bwysig yn cael y ni. So, eich bod yn cael ei ddweud fel amser, rydym yn defnyddio chi'n deall, beth erioeddaeth efallai fel y dyfodol, ac ydiOlw yn gweld eu cyfnod eich bod yn ei wneud a eu gwaith a'u rhywbeth. Soio wrth gwrs, mae'r taleron yn eich syniad a ffordd o ddweud. Maen nhw'n cael y LGBTR, byddwn i'r cyrraedd. Ychydig o gwybod mewn arweithio, maen nhw'n cael eu bod yn cael ei ddweud. Ac yma yw meshw LGBTR? Because I've been actually forgotten? No, it's a simpleки. No, it's a really good thing. I've just touched a bit of a saucepot with me, he tends to come out. I didn't really have a good time. I've got a great family around me now and friends and everything. I've probably been around 11, 12 when I knew, ac'r所有 ar byłbydd yn ddiwedd ac rhan o'r ffamwy yng Nghymru. Wel, mae'r ffais yn rhan o'r ffas yn safthatig. Felly toodd yn ystod iawn, ac rwy'n dawn o'r ffordd, rwyf wedi bod i ddathen nhw i chi. Yn cyllidio i'r ffordd, mae angen i ddweud y gwerth rydych chi i ddangos o'r ffas mae rhai gwybb, a'r ddechrau o ran hwn y teimlo, oedd eich ddangosol yn ddweud ffas, ac', yn gwrs, mae'n f elbow'i gwreidio ymherwydd, felly dwi'n ceisio'r siwl. Mae ddifwng amsau i fyfyrdd, mae ddifwng i fyfyrdd. Bydd yn bwysig i bod'r ffeis. Mae'n golygu. Mae'n golygu ar gyfer bod y gwybod wrth gwrs een ddangos fwy ffyrdd. Felly yn ymddydd yn rheidio, phoesio nawr bydd yn fwy fwy ffyrdd. You don't want to be an ally, you don't want to... Really make the effort to ensure everybody feels safe and included. It's kind of easier, when I was just going, Oh yeah, I don't care, just crack on. Actually we need to make the effort to make people feel safe and included. Because If we do done, other people potentially won't make those people feel safe. If we know we're a good person, I stand up and be a good person and approach stuff. Rydym yn galw'r yddydd chi'n wneud, dwi'n ei ddweud. A gallwch chi'n gweld dysgu'r ymarfer hefyd? Roedd yna. Roeddwn i chi ddweud – y cymuned wedi'i ychydig wedi'i amser gweithio ar eich diweddoli i fynd ymgrifennu cilytig yma. Roedd olafodd yr kwylo'r CID heb cymunedion, llwyddi'ch mynd i'r bwrdd, mae'n arbennig yn diomeddol â rydych chi. A y gallwn i'r cifllen yn dweud yma. Mae'n dweud dodd yma chi'n gallu ioi. Ond efallai ychwanegi gweld eu gwagol i gynyddu llythio arall, lle mae'n amser yn rhanon ym yn cyffredinol o'r pethau llythio yn fawr. Mae'n ymddave o'r arsaint i fy��, Rwy'n rhoi'r meddwl gyda y llythio ystafell ti'n sefydlu arall. Yn ymddiriaeth yr ysgol at hynny, mae'n rhaid yn gwneud ymddig i'wをffydd arall, ma wnaeth i ni'n dweud fuelu, felly ddigon i chi'n gallu gweld eich mawr hynny, I'm not scared so I think I'm not assuming how old you are but I think I'm old and new marker. I think like our generation we've lived through a phase where there's been where teachers weren't allowed to speak about queer issues in the eighties and nineties in school so we didn't get talked about inclusive same-sex education and stuff like that that didn't exist. So we've I think sort of gone through some more struggles. We've now got equal marriage, gay people can adopt and do all that sort of stuff so there's more acceptance in society so I feel like we think we need to fight a little bit more. Do you know what I mean? I think that's fine but I think it's also important with say younger people we we should talk about Pride and why it was set up. Is it about celebration? Absolutely of course it is but it's also for me about protest as well because it's we've asked it if you think about same-sex marriage if you think about inclusion in sport if you think about all the laws that have changed to make life better for LGBTQ community that's happened because of struggle it's not just happened because I said oh yeah you know of all that so I think we need to like educate people they were perhaps a little bit younger than me but equally being an ally it shouldn't be all left to queer people to do all the educating if you if you don't identify as a member of community go educate yourself as well read the books look at the videos you know do all of that ask people about the stories if they're willing to share and think that's it stories are powerful I think that's the most powerful thing 100% of these it's about showing care you know can can we as as allies show care and show understanding and listen more you know listen more like you said to those stories and as opposed to constantly feeling like people from the LGBT plus community have to be the ones championing it you know almost going back to what I said if like anyone can anyone can be an ally anyone can be supportive anybody can be outspoken in that way and it's just I think it'll it's slowly getting there I mean I think that's what you've hit in the head a little bit because I mean I think I'm a little bit lucky with the new guys and I was I was only in uni a few years ago but it was it was almost completely unspoken of purely because people were so accepting um I mean maybe also that was in Liverpool which is known as one of if not the most accepting place in the country if not world but it was just unspoken of people were entirely free to be whoever they wanted to be and people did celebrate but maybe there is a little bit of a not loss of protest but not not feeling as much of a need because there are as many of our community that are getting marginalised I think there are still some there are still some in the community that are getting marginalised and they 100% need that need that support and maybe just need to bring into attention again relaying and actually reminding people you know everyone is in it together it's not just you know just because some of us are starting to have that freedom to be who they want to be doesn't mean everyone has we need to keep that fight up for those that haven't and make sure that they still feel support to be who they are yeah and just challenge you slightly a little bit like it's things are getting better would say but like it crimes against our GBTQ plus community have gone up massively in West Yorkshire and across the country over the past five years and I think that might be because people might feel more comfortable reporting and that's that's a good thing and we'd always encourage that um to do that safely but and do a things happening nationally which mean that people feel it's okay to be not so nice to the old GBTQ plus community so I think we need to be doing more of this amazing stuff Bradford City does having the safe spaces and having the announcements before the matches having the flights flying having an inclusive recruitment system doing all of that because that makes people feel more welcome and I just particularly say for the trans community because they are going through some tough times and there will be lots of trans fans and a lot of trans Bradford City fans and it's like you know would they necessarily always feel comfortable being themselves no because they're not accepted by the family but if football's a sanctuary for them then we should treat it like sanctuary and zero tolerance on people think it's okay to be derogatory towards that community I think it's something that we have we have we have seen a lot into something that in the media is getting so common which is sad it's getting common you know it seems to be on the you know on the news every week or two weeks if somebody's you know had another attack at the trans community or had something else to say about them and it almost kind of happened that's what I said before it's you've got to keep that fight up you've got to if they if those people have the platform and such social media to be it but all you know access to the media to be able to say such things people have to come up and counter that people have to come up and contest that because if not they essentially get that free space to open and say whatever you feel you are. Do you find that there's any barriers that you're aware of from from people in the community that what comes with football for any specific reason and you know to do with anything within the community? Yeah I think there might be perceptions I'm not saying that but I'm saying in particular which is perceptions that it's quite a match or or this sort of sport and actually that that's an issue you know so by doing films like this to get it out on social media and why do is really important so I think that's important but so I'd say in answer to your question Michael there's three things we need to do to build sort of bash down those barriers one is we need to start celebrating all the parts of the community which I think this club does well I think so particularly in terms of the trans community so trans day remembrance trans day visibility could the club do something more proactive on on that front I think it's then about after celebration of those communities it's about educating you know what are we doing to educators fans I think we're really good on that this club actually but what else could we do on top of that you know is it sending them links to support is it sending them links to people's individual stories and we're sharing them but I think it's also about educating staff at a sports club whether it's football rugby or whatever sport you know I know the Germans it's like really supportive CEO around special support of equality issues I know that that's a fact and I know that in a lot of the staff is it like that on the players from I don't know the answer to that question but you know how we educate the players around these issues so it is not because people must take banter sometimes don't you know banter or just a mean banter you know it's all there a comment's made but a comment can be made but some people don't understand how in a comment can be made and that the impact has on people so education is important then I think about it's just being inclusive just be mindful of people celebrate everybody and just listen to people and dox you I think that's a big thing so yeah yeah we've we've got into a few schools this time around delivering our family primary stars program and we've through that we've delivered quite a few and discrimination workshops especially around rainbow lists this time so we did it around the end of October early November when we went out and delivered some some workshops in schools and it was so well received by schools and pupils it was absolutely I couldn't I couldn't believe how how well received it was and it was something that we identified as really successful we want to continue to grow next year and I would you know as a long-term vision we want to try and push out as many schools as possible to provide that education but also create an open safe space to have those discussions because lives are often the discussions can be quite to do in all you can't say that I will have to say that you've got to have some safe spaces to actually have those discussions to break those barriers to you know to challenge stereotypes to actually allow people to make those mistakes but in a safe place to be able to do that because often if you know that's that's not always provided for people especially in the people you know why do you think that women's games got it so right? I'm almost I can't fully answer that but I think I maybe presume they've been quite open in talking about issues beyond football for quite a long time I've got a friend of mine who's a family in England who does loads of work sort of nationally and internationally actually with the women's game and it's just been like sort of dead open in space like barriers haven't necessarily been put up to the same degree as it might be in the men's game so and I think the women on the first team you know the lionesses and the big the big teams in inverted commas have been quite open in sharing the stories of noticed you know so and I think that's what we've got to be able to do in the men's game you know like share the stories if there's a player who wants to come out what can a football club do to support them to make them feel safe and open and what have you but is that other thing is that an area of social media it's positive in many many ways but if you just come out and yeah you'll see all the nice stuff but there'll be a lot of negative stones as well and can somebody take that you know so but I think yeah I think the women have got this thing of like you share your stories but they've got like this really good support mechanism around them nowhere near enough money in the women's game I should add it's getting better but you know I think stuff like that is why the women's games are quite inspiring and I just think I'd say to and you public this out I'm going to say it anywhere I'd say to FA and to football in the far East be bolder you know just be absolutely bold with football clubs with agents with sponsors with a lot of zero tolerance have a better education programme than you've already got and invest in our GBTQ plus people because if you do that more people in the men's game will feel comfortable to come out it's quite simple for me so so yeah what about you Marko what do you what do you think yeah that's it I think it's you know it's a good point being that published but you know when you think about about how much money you've gone into the men's game potential where that one is coming from you know like how much can some clubs or some players or some managers have the opportunity to speak out depending on depending on where that where that comes from and I know but we've not got a problem in that way where perfectly fine we can be as open as is possible about it but you do see others not just in this country but across the world but where that definitely can't happen you know there's been a lot of debate that's been just come up recently especially around some players moving moving to other countries and how that's the debate that's then been caused by that and you do see it starting where it's heading you know yeah I think we could start to learn from other like sports as well so like another locally based team and rugby league team Keyford Cougar's own bike and Quaeclpo and they've got such a proactive sort of recruitment policy where they when a player comes in an urgent approach is them they will sit down with that player and say this is what we are about as a club if you can't accept that and I don't care if you're the best player in the world I'm sure that's it quite as long as I've just put it but you get what I'm saying we don't want you here you know this is an inclusive place and that goes from players to management to fans it's everybody's sort of so yeah but I think Bradford City is getting a lot of things right and like I said proud to be a fan who has started with this club for so long and I just think the wider footballing community could be more bolder from a recruitment perspective from the policy put in place and just listening to people you know so so yeah I don't I think it could be better than that. So just to wrap up social media what are your thoughts on that so I know as a club when we change the profile picture and stuff like that we get a lot of negative comments and I see them every time it comes up and it really infuriates me and I just I want your thoughts on it really because I don't know what we can do to help that or educate people or what do you think we can do? I think it's yeah that's the the biggest negative about social media really especially I mean even even now the communities are saying that they're cracking down they're just the cat cracked down hard enough there's you know we start to work up when the penalty does that means the penalties the abuse that they got was disgusting and I know that wasn't necessarily towards them in a none of them were part of the LGBT plus community but it's still it's still discriminatory it's still it's just vile vile comments and the thing you know can people just be a bit kinder it's not it's not hard is it and like we were saying why why do you feel the need to make such a comment can't can't we just be more supportive of each other that's that's all we're talking about here really isn't it just being supportive I think that's it for me why why have you felt the need to comment it in the first place what what's driven it to that point that you're having to speak up so loudly about something yeah that's changing the picture you know it that pulls me absolutely right has that made you feel better to to say to say that you know to potentially make someone feel more uncomfortable to make someone feel less safe or less likely to be honest about who they are is that is that coming worth it I mean again for me new supporters from into a pub them I feel a comfortable page and we've done this and then they start reading this stuff and I think if they are part of the community am I really going to go here probably not actually you know and it's actually closing down new supporters new supporters and things like that yeah I think I think you're right and you said that the beginning marker there you said like what can we do to change it I think you asked in something like this where people can hear personal stories starts to change some perceptions and what I'd say to anybody who might have put a negative comment in pass I'm not going to judge you all that I should do is think about the impact your comment could have on somebody you know so it could have a really bad impact and if you're having a really awful time you don't feel great about yourself because you feel you can't come out that could have a bad impact on your mental health and like I said I'm just going to be the honest people from the LGBTQ plus community are more likely to attempt to take their own life this is how serious this is so just please just think ask questions like you said in a safe environment but just think about it before you put those comments you know and just do some research and come and enjoy football let's hope I could see you in play for that end of season and just enjoy the football and just be nice to people well thank you both for spending this afternoon when you're discussing this thank you thank you