 When we came here it was family and then I guess is the key word to the Rio Grande Conference. We were family. We were family in the local church. I always felt I had 20 moms and 20 dads and all our friends and of course in the fifties early sixties that was the only social life my parents had was to visit each other and all our fellowship was with the church so we were very sheltered and which was a good thing because that was you know still a time of unacceptance of people that were different in Dallas. The Methodist men had their organization and they were very strong. The Methodist women but I was involved in the youth and that was going to camp every year to Kerville and you know establishing all those connections that the Rio Grande Conference offered to Texas and New Mexico. So I think that's why people still today everybody knows when when Roberto Gomez passed away when Danny passed away Danny Solis the whole conference grieves because they're we're part of a big family so I think that's the key words family