 There was great unity with regard to the main points. What I really liked about the debate is that we had quite a diverse group of experts on the panel and the responses were diverse. It's really good to see that when you look at different areas of expertise, you're getting different responses. And I think this is what we have to do more. We have to make sure that we do not only put a focus on technical aspects, but that we get this diverse group of people coming up with their own solutions. So I really appreciated that, it was a good debate. COVID-19 definitely had a major impact on the cyber crime landscape. We saw it especially in the beginning, when companies and governments were forced to look for alternative solutions, so people working from home. And in general, they were not prepared, not at least not well prepared. So there was a gap of like VPN connections and things like this. So we had a lot of people working from home with poor connections, with weak connections where offenders were taking advantage and they were attacking them. Over the time, this is now definitely improved, but we see that it's just shifting, the focus is just shifting. We see registration of fake domains related to vaccinations and cure and all of this stuff. So it's definitely, there's a lot going on. Digitalization has a speeded up and so are the crimes, absolutely. I think there are two key challenges that I see when I'm talking to governments, usually ministers. The one is they want to come up with a response, a regulatory response. That means they want to come up with a legal framework or policy or a cybersecurity strategy for the country to protect people, business in the country. On the other hand side, they need to protect themselves. It's really important. Governments, government institutions are increasingly victim of attacks. ITU is paying a lot of attention in their cybersecurity activities in highlighting this aspect and trying countries to improve their situation in this regard. And so they really need to speed up their defense activities because we see that the attacks are increasing. Well, that's a very difficult question. I'm a law professor, so I in general believe in regulation. I'm not quite sure if it really makes that much sense to regulate safety. I think in a very careful way we can do this. I would especially focus on the providers. I would not so much focus on the users, on trying to regulate them. But when it comes to the key elements of how to protect yourself, what are technical measures that should be implemented? I think the providers would be something I would focus on. And then we should really put a focus on giving them the opportunity to protect themselves to the degree that they would like to do and being able to do this based on informed opinion. Well, I would love to say that it is the responsibility of the industry or the government, but I think neither of them really has the full understanding of how much privacy they would like to see and how much security. And there are different approaches. I mean, there are some people who would like to see more privacy and some people would like to see less. So in general, I think everybody has a responsibility there. It would be wrong to wait for others to take over the responsibility. So we should equip users with the knowledge and the technology that they can take their decision. And I think in some areas we see good results. We, for example, see it with regard to privacy in Europe where you have a consent question in the beginning when you open a website, they're asking you, okay, how much privacy do you want? Do you want to restrict the ability of us to track your activities or do you not care? And just say, okay, let's go for it to maybe improve the experience. So I think this is the approach we should have where we give users the power in their hand to decide how much they want. Oh, it's incredibly important that I was really set in the very beginning of the pandemic when I saw that we had to drive down a lot of activities they were completely canceled because I think this exchange is the most important thing and to share something which is important for me when I'm participating in those panel discussions or when I'm giving speeches, I know exactly what I'm gonna say. I've heard it a hundred thousand times because I said it so often, but what I do not know is how is the audience gonna respond? What questions are gonna be there? Or in a panel discussion, what is the contribution from the other people? And I find this most fascinating. This is what I'm looking forward to. So having this forum again and having the ability to discuss now with additional remote ability, so right now only remote and in future maybe hybrid, we probably have the chance to get way more people to participate in those events and have way more views, especially from the developing countries.