 What's up internet? Take two of our budget build series and bakit take two? Yung unan nating attempt ended in failure. We're trying to do a budget build for around 15,000 and the best approach at that price point is to buy second hand parts. Pinili namin bumili nung OEM or yung mga office computer type. One, because if you're starting out with a budget build you most likely cut your teeth or na introduce ka sa computer with these office computers and that's sort of like the origin story. A lot of us start out with monkeying around with our office. Bag muna nalai kwento sa boss namin na you go into the computer and you kind of figure out what hardware you can add. You start experimenting in Windows. So OEM computers are familiar to a lot of first time builders and the performance is good because a lot of the big offices routinely swap out PCs. So two or three generations, ayaw nilala, tinatapon nilala sa second hand market, sobrang mura pero good pa rin performance nung mga to. The downside to using that kind of approach is that sometimes off the shelf components like the GPU that we wanted to put inside our OEM computers they won't work and yung problem dun sa first build namin sobrang good deal nito. This is the first guy that we got. Intel 10th Gen. A really good price. You can check out our first video about it. Ang problema, the GPU that we wanted to use with it the 1650 hindi siya kasha. It just literally wouldn't fit inside here. And that's one of the drawbacks of using OEM computers as your first gaming PC, second hand budget PC. Ang hirap mag-research. I mean this guy is called the HP desktop. This guy is called the HP Pro Desk. There are very generic names tapos pa bago-bago yung specs nang mga to. Another PC could be called the HP Pro Desk and it could have different components, different interior. The advice is to research but to do that advice is very difficult. Pero yung nga yung pros, good performance at a good price. So we kept at it and we got an HP desktop and this time it's gonna work. This is an Intel 8th Gen with 500GB hard drive, 2X4, 8GB total of RAM, 180W PSU. More importantly, we can finally fit our 1650 GPU in here. So the price of this guy was 8,500. The GPU was 5,500. So that's a total of 14,000 pesos. Swap dun sa max budget natin of 15,000. Yung tanong, nagawa natin ito, maganda ba yung performance niya? Pero bago noon, kung interested ka sa computer, whether budget or otherwise, you probably need to activate windows and for that we recommend our sponsor. So a lot of our videos, pag scroll down mo, nandun na yung links sa video description. Like for example dito, scroll down tayo, pipiliin mo lang yung windows na kailangan mo. Win10 Pro, Home, Win11 Pro. Kami, we just usually recommend Win10 Pro. So we'll click that link. Lala ba si sponsor? Tapos ako, since ginagamit nga namin to regularly, nakasainin na ako, may account na ako. But if you don't have one, account creation is super easy. If you've done any kind of e-commerce purchases, kabisado mo na yung. But here we are at the Win10 Pro page. Let's say quantity, just need a buy one. Click mo buy now. And ito yung pinakamahalaga, you can use our discount code HS20, click apply. Tapos you'll get a 25% discount. So instead of $22.21, naging $16.66 na lang. Click submit order. And there are a variety of payment options available. Once you click pay now, you'll be able to find the key that you ordered in your account profile. Just copy that key, go to windows activator, paste it, and your windows is activated. Good to go. In this budget build 2, the GPU we used was an ASUS 1650. We didn't need to use anymore the Gigabyte low profile GPU, which was giving us such a hard time in budget build 1. Numbers were very decent, especially considering this is a 15,000 piece of build. All FPS mentioned here are the average frames per second at talid. In Forza 4, 1080p medium preset, we hit 109 FPS. In Final Fantasy 14, and Walker at 1080p high preset, we got 67 FPS. And finally in Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1080p high preset, we got 51 frames per second. Rounding out the numbers with some benchmarking software. In Time Spy, we got a GPU score of 3377, a CPU score of 4457, and a combined score of 3504. In Superposition, 1080p medium settings, we had an average FPS of 49.17, and a score of 6607. Very good numbers. This is comfortable gaming even for demanding titles at a very good price. But we're not done yet. We really wanted to try our budget build 1, which used an Intel 10th Gen 1650 GPU compared to this current budget build 2, which is an 8th Gen Intel CPU 1650 GPU. So same GPUs, but a two-generation gap between budget build 1 and budget build 2. Pero nasasayangan talaga kami that we weren't able to use it. So just for purposes of benchmarking, we used a Riser Cable 1650 with the Intel 10th Gen and the results were pretty surprising. The two budget builds were super close. Benchmarking tools muna tayo. In Time Spy, budget build 1 had a combined score of 3542. Budget build 2 had a combined score of 3504. In Superposition, 1080p medium settings, budget build 1 had an average FPS of 48.9 with a total score of 6537. Budget build 2 edges it out just slightly with average FPS of 49.17 and a score of 6607. In Games, budget build 1 had 100 FPS on Forza 4 compared to 109 FPS for budget build 2. In Final Fantasy 14, budget build 1 had 68 FPS versus 67 FPS for budget build 2. And finally, in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, budget build 1 had 45 FPS with budget build 2 taliing 51 FPS. The only game where we saw a substantial difference in the two systems and the lead even goes to the older rig, the budget build 2. We were really surprised with budget build 2 because it is two generations behind budget build 1 and yet it kept pace and even pulled the head in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. So two takeaways from all of this. Number one, for gaming, GPU is really king. The driving horse for games is still the GPU and if you're going to be using your PC for that, you really should focus your money on. Not anything groundbreaking, certainly but always going to be reminded especially in start terms like this na two generations between the two CPUs, but basically wala lang yung for gaming. GPU talaga yung pinakamahalaga. Number two, having a budget gaming rig which performs really well is possible but you should buy second hand. For this price point, dun talaga yung value for money. As you mentioned in our previous video, pinilinga namin to mga old office OEM kasi ang dami sa market. Napaflad yung market na mga to because the big companies are looking to upgrade the computers or the employees. So readily available and the price is around 8,000 for this whole computer. And then you get a second hand 1650 for around 7,000. So you have a 15,000 pesos of build which is somewhat upgradeable and will tackle most games really quite well for the price point. May challenges nga going this route buying second hand, buying OEM and again we tackle that in the first budget build video but if you do your research and with a little bit of luck makakukuham mo rin tung price to performance very good value for money like we've got in here. Or if you don't want to think about it too much to be honest, binabenta namin tung budget build too. We only bought it for purposes of these videos we don't have need for it in the shop we got it for around 15,000 although yung budget build one hindi namin binabenta yung budget build one kasi nag-royo ako nung mga tech guys natin sa shop they were like, oh yung may isa patayin project we can actually use budget build one for something. The initial plan was really just to sell that thing but the guys in the shop si Nailstalk ako apparently they've gotten good at that selling stock for hardware sugar which you're gonna learn more about in a future video but we're not selling budget build one we're selling budget build two with the peripherals from budget build one we're gonna sell it at a slight markup but nothing too high just to recoup the cost and recoup the time that we spent working on it testing it because this is a rig that we made sure worked number one and number two actually benchmark so the quality is basically assured on our end if you're interested you can find the details in the second hand parts list hardware sugar as a second hand parts list where if you're a hardware sugar customer you can send any old computer item to us doesn't need to be bought from us and we'll sell it for you we don't take any cut from the sales except for parts which were actually directly selling but if you're an owner send the item to us we'll sell it for you and then we'll directly send you the money warranty is between the two parties so the buyer and the seller hardware sugar just facilitates everything gives you a more visible platform tapas yung maganda sa second hand parts list it gives you greater visibility for your second hand parts since we do mention it a bunch of times in the video so that a lot of people kind of already know about us and actually your turnover rate is pretty good and we like it again, we don't earn anything from it but it's something that helps prevent e-waste so we've done three budget build videos budget build one na nabigut ayo we weren't able to do the build that we wanted basically because the GPU wouldn't fit budget build 1.5 video talked about some of the suggestions you guys had on how to fix that build and here we have budget build two where we actually got to use an OEM PC and got to use the GPU that we wanted and overall ganda ng performance for the price point there are some difficulties in this approach but if you're trying to go down this route hopefully these three videos will help you out with that thanks for watching Kasama na rin yung excellent cable management namin and CPU cooler repasting sa cleaning we also clean and repaste GPUs na sa makati yung physical store namin and you can also buy from our site www.hwsugar.ph na 100% palaging up to date yung inventory dun kung instock yung item sa amin available yung sa site we also ship nationwide thanks for watching and maybe one of these days makita tayo sa shop