 Yeah, there's a lot of depression in there somewhere But like, you know, you see obviously not every comedian, but but like for example will Ferrell seems very serious when he does Talk show interviews, which is like an opposite of his on-screen persona, which seems like this which is probably also not his real Way of being in real life either. You know what I mean? Like We're probably not seeing the real at home will Ferrell I think a lot of people, you know, whether you're a comedian or you're an entertainer in some other form It's you get used to entertaining people. Yeah, you know what it is You're supposed to do and that's not necessarily who you are as a whole being Some people are very much like they are in real life in their entertainment. I think all three of us are you know Nobody's Someone's face. They're not gonna act exactly the same, but I think we're all pretty close to who we are I've been told that I know you too. Yeah. Well, but I consider it the only way to stay sane like like Entertainers people who do like big-time entertainment talk shows TV movies, right? I think a lot of times those people are definitely not the same Put on a personality Regis Feldman. I Don't know. Did you call him Regis Feldman? Regis Feldman, Philman, wait, who's Feldman? Oh, wait, that's what's his name? That's Corey Feldman That's real. Yeah, that was no So, you know, I did house calls on screen too was a long time ago and I had the opportunity to meet And McMahon and he was a lot like his own screen persona He was okay. Well, and you know, it might be because we're there to shoot him, but he was very Gregarious and very outgoing and very, you know thoughtful. So it's pretty cool. Well, that's true, too Like I'm different if someone comes over to my house then I am when I'm just alone in the house Lily Tomlin. So we had to do something with Lily Tomlin. She was kind of the exact opposite of her. She was very Quiet quiet taciturn Taciturn good word. Yeah, you went to college, didn't you? I went to a college College boy with a sixth degree from a college Six dollars. So I give a change back and I want to buy something. Oh, I will I wanted to mention this I forgot on the show yesterday. So I've been watching YouTube TV a lot more as I've mentioned on the show before and You know, sometimes it's that's the only way I can watch certain things I want to watch exports and so I've been watching more commercials because they've got commercials and The family plan that I'm a part of is actually based in Phoenix And so I see a lot of regional Arizona commercials. Oh It's so weird. Yeah, first of all commercials. I just think they would just go off IP address not not plan That's that's interesting. Yeah, it's the plan of the Owner of the account. I was about to say like even like with sling TV or PlayStation view I can watch them out of market even though my plan is in LA if I'm in San Francisco watching sling TV It gives me San Francisco area That's weird. We should probably get started. Yes Okay Alright, let's ask Pat to start the show off today. Okay Okay, Pat the Daily Tech News show is powered by its listeners not outside Organizations if you get value from the show Consider giving a little back as little as a dollar a month keeps great tech news and analysis coming your way Commercial free find out more at daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday June 5th 2018 in Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and our producer Roger Chang is here today. It's just the three of us But we got Computex news folks Computex in full swing in Taiwan Chip news raining down crazy prototype laptops. It's gonna be fun, right Roger. It's gonna be so much fun Let's start with a few tech things you should know Dow Jones announced Tuesday that Twitter would replace Monsanto That's a couple of different companies in the SMP 500 Twitter jumped about 5% Tuesday after the news Changes go in effect on Thursday June 7th when German pharma company Bayer finalizes its 63 billion takeover of Monsanto Oh, that's because Monsanto isn't gonna be independent anymore. I get it. I hesitate to call Lenovo a liar I wouldn't do that, but they certainly deceived us back on May 31st We passed along the many reports that noted the Lenovo promotional render of the z5 phone showed an all-screen front with no notch and no bezel However in the announcement Lenovo showed the z5 not only has a notch But also a chin like a nice not thick, but it's got a little bezel down there at the bottom Lenovo still claims its bezels and notches are smaller than the iPhone 10 and the Mi 8 And the z5 goes on sale in China June 12th for a thousand two hundred ninety nine you on up to a thousand seven hundred ninety nine You on few hundred dollars our next bezel is hope. However comes from vivo's announcement coincidentally on June 12th Sharp is acquiring Toshiba's PC business and will issue about $1.8 billion in new shares to buy back stock from banks that have previously invested Sharp's parent company Foxconn is world's biggest contract manufacturer Obviously, we know it well for smartphones, but also to produce PCs and TVs more cheaply So it makes a lot of sense that they would be in cahoots Sharp said it would take an eighty point one percent stake into Shiba's PC unit on October 1st We'll also retain the Dynabook brand to Shiba sold seventeen point seven PCs seven years ago This last year one point four million units And Facebook announced the fifth Oculus connect conference will take place in San Jose September 26th and 27th That's right fifth. There have been five of these with a will have been Registration details aren't out yet, but September 26 27th mark it down on your calendar Let's talk a little more about Spotify Let's do it and especially Spotify getting into the hardware business Maybe Spotify registered with the FCC Tuesday, which is the first step usually in getting hardware devices approved for use in the US Spotify will first get a grantee code a grantee code allows the company to file to have a wireless networking Device approved by the FCC or multiple ones previous reports included plans for an in-car device that Spotify might have been working on Yeah, they were advertising for jobs about requiring hardware expertise and so it seems pretty Likely that Spotify is working on a thing, right? I love this quote in variety. Where was it? I should have I should have noted this earlier where they they talk about Whether Spotify wants to become the next pebble watch Amazon Echo or snap spectacles Yeah, Tom you had shared that quote with me earlier today, and I was like, why don't know if Spectacles or pebble would be what Spotify would want to align itself with considering both of those companies hardware stumbles as of late, but I do think that especially because Spotify has kind of been on its own journey as far as they want to you know have you know to beef up their podcast division and There are a lot of artists that are on Spotify that yeah I mean not so much that are not on other competitors like Apple music anymore But there's certainly some some exclusives to have something like a smart speaker would make a lot of sense But could you sell it? You know it low enough to be able to compete with Amazon and and from the job But by the way that pebble watch Amazon Echo thing that was from Spotify's job listing So Spotify was saying that it does it does feel like most of the rumors point towards some in-car device Which that I guess kind of makes sense although everybody's got a smartphone Why would you want a second device for in-car? Unless they've come up with some crazy cool way to make it really easy like I don't know great speakers better than your car speakers I I'm having a hard time seeing how this isn't snap spectacles Which is something that I don't really see the need for even if it sounds cool And with Apple's carplay announcement yesterday One might think maybe this is something that just kind of got pushed out because it needed to get out there ASUS announced several new products Monday at Computex. Let's go through them one by one I will go through three of them not all of them. We did talk about the Republic of Gaming stuff earlier Vivo watch BP has what ASUS says is a medical grade blood pressure monitor That means it had to get us FDA approval also has an ECG and PPG heart rate and blood pressure sensor Omron announced a similar feature at CES But ASUS says the Vivo watch BP will be out before Omron's and will last 20 days on charge Good for heart were good good for health monitoring, right blood pressure. Yeah, I mean absolutely 20 days on a single charge is lovely Yeah, that's a health monitor like that. This is less of a watch and more of a health device Yeah, exactly. This is something that you have to use on a regular basis for health reasons very cool and I don't know what the difference in price is Pricer availability on anything we're gonna talk about from ASUS by the way. Yeah, exactly But but yeah, I mean battery life alone for this sort of thing is is obviously crucial ZenBook Pro 15 Has a cool-looking trackpad The trackpad is a 5.5 inch touchscreen or what ASUS is calling a screen pad You can toggle it back and forth with the f6 key between being a regular old mouse touchpad a An app player like a calculator music player even Microsoft Office integration or just a secondary display where you can drag anything into it Specs run up to core i9 16 gigabytes of RAM GTX 1050 Ti with 4 gigs of RAM So it's got gaming machine like specs and it has Amazon voice control built-in as well People have done this sort of thing before in fact. We just saw I think it was a sir showing off Dockable one or maybe it was a razor was showing off the dockable phone into a laptop configuration What do you think of this using the touchpad as a touchscreen? Well, I might be the only person who does not hate the Apple touch bar But I know it is hated among lots of people who are Mac enthusiasts. This is also already cooler Than the Apple touch bar. Although I have gotten used to it. So in the sense of you know, having more touchable You know things to launch within your your single laptop. I like it I think it looks cool. I just don't know if I'll end up actually using it because it's below my hands Roger What do you think? So my big? Issue with this is that means now you're moving your eyes off your screen and down onto the trackpad Now this is one of the reasons why Apple did the touch bar where it's at It's because it's close to the screen So you really only need to glance down and once you figure out where everything is you can kind of do it by Muscle memory if your trackpad image is always changing that means you got to see okay This app is running on it now. I know what to do, but I mean you're gonna be doing this It's it's a nice Feature if you want to have feature specs on your product But I don't know if it's gonna be a seller point selling alright How about this prototype? This is the last of the announcements are gonna talk about project pre-cog To get the minority report fans I guess a dual-screen laptop with no keyboard Targeted at AI so all the buzzwords the one they showed was a prototype But they say they intend to make it available in 2019 among its many nifty promises are knowing where your hands are So it can shift the virtual keyboard accordingly So it's basically like two tablets hinged right and it can do a virtual keyboard or you can hook a external keyboard up Conserves battery in advance of your meetings so it knows when your meetings are and you're gonna unplug and it tries to go into low power mode Works with Microsoft Office to make smart Suggestions like ways to present data in Excel and it can work in book form So side-by-side screen laptop form flat on the ground or tent mode with a stylus And it'll have face an object recognition. I guess my first question is if there is no physical keyboard Are they still laptops? I mean, I guess they are but we're getting into these new categories now Yeah, I mean this is a laptop, but it's also two tablets and it's also a tent and it's also like yeah this It's gonna be confusing. It's and I'm I hate typing on a virtual keyboard. So I Don't know it looks like the kind of thing they use in Westworld This is gonna be something that's gonna find itself very popular within a niche group of users So whether it might be like an industrial application where you need to have these out or in a medical situation or even in a specific kind of like Organizational setting where you know for some reason you need to have it out like, you know the the 10 commandments in your show and everyone But I don't think it will have a wider popularity Because it doesn't it's not a it's not an overarching industry kind of thing And so people are gonna look at it's a cool. That's cool. But really, you know, there's not the need There's not the thing we're like, yes I've been wanting this because it fixes this problem that I've had So if you don't have that then you have to say it fixes the problem You didn't know you had and I don't see it doing that. Maybe I missed a great prop for a movie So well on that desktop tip Intel announced at copy tax It will launch a single socket desktop CPU with 28 cores running at 5 gigahertz SVP Gregory Bryant ran the Cinebench benchmark on its on-state on on-stage yielding a score of 7,300 3 4 Intel plans to sell the CPU by the end of the year until also announced it will make 50,000 special core i7 8086 K CPUs I had so much loveless of a harder time doing this on headlines this morning to celebrate Intel's 50-year company anniversary, but also the 40th anniversary of the 8086 Processor which is Intel's best performing mainstream coffee like processor if we're taking notes with a base frequency of 4.0 gigahertz and a single core Turbo of 5.0 gigahertz for a probable 4.6 gigahertz all core turbo and Finally until tees 14 nanometer 8th gen whiskey lake processors for lightweight laptops and a 14 nanometer amber lake thin laptop and tablets a 1.5 terabyte octa-pane SSD and a smaller m.2 design and a partnership to sell 5g capable laptops from acer Asus Dell HP Lenovo and Microsoft in sprint stores next year So this is Intel on three points hitting We are super fast and powerful still don't don't ignore us. We have 28 cores Also, we've been around forever and we're still making great chips. So check this out. We're gonna celebrate our history and third We are on the cutting edge. We're gonna you y'all want lap laptops with network connections That's the next hot trend and we're on it. We're gonna partner for 5g capable laptops I mean I paused after after the 8086 because I thought you guys would be so thrilled but it's it's interesting. I mean I Covers everything you just said Tom One is like listen. I know everyone is doing multicore arm is releasing new designs It's supposed to be desktop capable and released within a year We're still in the game. We're still innovating. We still have you know an advantage And we've been around for a long time and let's not forget. We have a huge legacy installed base So if you want to make sure you run those all those old legacy x86 applications We're still around so Sorry, Roger thought you were done. Oh also The nod to the enthusiast with the with the special 8086 which is also kind of a very self-serving You know binning of products like it's something already produced But they're probably just gonna bin all the the high spec ones that they can and some but yeah It's it's very much of Intel saying we're still around now They're doing this because they feel threatened by Qualcomm and arm designed chips And at Computex Tuesday Qualcomm announced the new Snapdragon 850 mobile compute platform designed for PCs Coming right at Intel Promising a 30% boost in performance over the 835 a 20% boost in battery life and a 20% increase in 4g LTE speeds PCs with the old 835 just hit the shelves in the spring But Qualcomm says the 850 powered PCs will be coming by holiday time less than a year after the last generation Take that tick-tock Intel Qualcomm said more manufacturers will use the 850 then use the 835 they named Samsung as one company that will have the 850 in a future device and To keep people from not ordering those older 835 powered devices They announced that Sprint will provide free unlimited LTE data for devices that run the Snapdragon 835 So you buy the old one you get free data You get free high-speed data or if you wait until the holiday you get this higher powered higher performance version in a Qualcomm PC these are these are PCs. They're running Windows So I mean it's this is very telling because you know, it's interesting because Intel is pushing Look at all the high-end stuff that we're capable of rolling out and Qualcomm is like look Keep that end. We're gonna sell what basically is your biggest money maker Which is the mainstream, you know mid-market? I just need a laptop to do my email to surf the web to watch my funny YouTube videos, you know I'm not gonna game. I'm not gonna do Adobe Creative Cloud. It's a bulk of the market and that's what they're targeting This is a very shrewd move because they understand that right they they they are they're making a very attractive product At a price point that should be that there should should tempt You know people switch over and you know, most of these applications are our platform and agnostic anyway, right like the Internet So as long as people get all that stuff, I don't think I don't think Intel has much of the way of that market locked in because you know anyone with a integrated Graphics, you know laptop knows what sucks for gaming sucks for doing any kind of high-end creative Application outside of maybe Photoshop, and even then in limited circumstances, so you would be upgrading to an upper-tier model anyway I mean, it's it's kind of what the Japanese car industry did to the American car industry by targeting that You know the economy and the middle mid-market segment with reliable inexpensive Automobiles that perform just as well in a mature product line, right PC sales are flat They go down sometimes they go back up But you know that that's not the growth market And so what Qualcomm's doing is is they're eating Intel's lunch here in Intel missed out on the mobile market And now Qualcomm is is trying to move in on the ultra cheap ultra portable market like Rogers describing It does seem like we are facing a world just shaping up out of what we're reading from Computex Where we're gonna get a lot of of laptops with connectivity built in we've had that for years now But that that seems to be the they're pushing that towards the front, especially as 5g rolls out You're gonna have home broadband speeds, you know super fast speeds built into your laptop I My instinct is that's desirable as long as it's simple to use Which is why it's print giving it away free is kind of cool and not Crazy expensive a lot of the early implementations of this just weren't that fast and we're pricey Like if you can get away with using the 5g service and ditch your you know land You know hardwired broadband I think a lot of people would make the search as long as there was a way that Easily share that among all the devices that you have and that's that's the big question mark for me Yeah, most of the carriers do it as an add-on plan Like if you have a watch or a laptop or a tablet, they're like, oh, we already have a plan with us Just pay an extra ten bucks for that. This will this will definitely lead to interesting I predict during when 5g rolls out. There's gonna be a lot of interesting Pricing models between all the different players as they basically try to Measure each one of them up. Yeah, I guess which is why in whatever country you're in you should want competition You you want to have choices so that those so those bundles compete with each other funny You mentioned competition Tom because China is investigating allegations of DRAM chip price-fixing against Samsung SK Heineck's and micron who together control 96% of the DRAM market Reuters reports a sword saying the double in of DRAM prices in the past two years prompted the investigation as it hurt Chinese Electronics manufacturers who operate on lower margins a South Korean government officials said that both Samsung and SK Heineck's deny price-fixing and say simply strong demand outstripped manufacturing capacity Now it's very interesting to note that these companies both all three of them at one point or another in the past ten years Have been under investigation not just by the Chinese But also by the EU and by the US Department of Justice for roughly the same Investigation where they found to have They will so they not all together not all at the same time, but at various points Samsung SK Heineck's have been charged and leveled with Not a fee with a penalty or and as well as micron Although in the micron case because it read it out the other two to the EU it wasn't penalized And that was from I think five years ago It's it's very interesting because when you have this many this this high of a percentage of the market between three companies Invariably, you know all eyes will be cast toward you anytime there seems to be Some kind of hinky business with pricing and you know the the the chip makers are saying well Look people are now mining. They're more high-end machines being sold more Handheld of our tablets phones that need these ships simply just a question of demand Our factories haven't been able to keep up and we're running full speed But you know what the greater demand of the fewer amount of the products that we can put out You know the prices are gonna go up. Yeah, nobody looks at graphics cards and says oh was price fixing They're like yeah, it was Bitcoin mining. So maybe it is this time just demand But like you say they do have a past Right hailing company grab is partnering with cargo to offer convenience items to passengers while riding with grab drivers cargo provides a small plastic container that fits between the front seats and Contains free samples as well as items for sale like chips gum ibuprofen phone chargers tiny stuff Drivers get 25% of the commission on paid sales and a dollar every time a passenger places an order at cargo dot menu Even if it's for a free sample, so they do promotional deals where riders can get free samples The driver still gets a buck for those cargo offers its services to lift and uber drivers in the use on in the u.s On an informal relationship so any driver can sign up, but it's not a partnership with lift and uber This is a direct partnership with grab where grab will be encouraging its drivers To do this on a side note grab launched grab ventures to develop technology startups in transport food services logistics financial services And they're already investing in Self-driving technology with drive dot AI and payments with India's kudo So grab on the move, but more importantly Sarah, you know You you hail a ride from time to time. Would you want to buy some gum while you're heading? Sure would Tom? This this to me is and yes a lot of my ubers Or lifts or do you know any other ride hailing service go to and from the airports? Not all of them, but many of them I would say I'm in and uber at you know If I wanted to like give a median time for a good 20 30 minutes sometimes I get thirsty sometimes I want gum sometimes my phone's dead This is an extension of the airport where you get stuff that you forgot You need at the last minute and you'll pay a little bit of a premium and you're glad it's there Pringles it's like mini bar items, isn't it? I wonder what the prices are too That is one thing that I did not see. I mean it's for the drivers. It's great. You get 25% sure I'm sure it's almost airport. Maybe not quite mini bar, but probably airport prices like these aren't cheap For the convenience. It just makes it makes a lot of sense I can't tell you how many times and I'm sure other people have have have stories as well where you're You're on your way where you need to be you can't turn around You're going to be late you will pay a premium and yes some of this is you know It's not life-or-death stuff, but I don't know you got a headache. I'd be profan or I you know again charger, you know Reminds me of the mini bar in the hotel room. Yeah. No, absolutely. That's it. Yeah, that's why I brought that up. I think the I Think the charger thing though. Remember uber's initial You know sort of je ne sais quoi was like oh and they give you water and a charger and this this feels like the other end of Like oh, they're gonna now they're gonna start becoming the you know the the Ryanair Friday like in charge well remember that both uber and left have have experimented with oh, we can like play your playlist and Yeah, with the driver and I was was sort of like yeah, I don't know it's like personal I don't you know There's certain things where it's like the perk might not actually be a solution anybody wants But when it comes to the basics and even stuff that maybe you'd see you know Sometimes in a bathroom where you give somebody a tip for providing the service. I think they'll probably make some money. Yeah All right, let's check in on the thing of the day, Sarah Let's do it time to check in with Chris Christensen with our travel tip This is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute This happens to be the hundred and first tech in travel minutes So thanks to Tom and the gang for letting me do this and today I have a tip not so much a particular Technology, but one of the top questions I get is when should I book my flight? And we're getting into that time that you should be booking your flight for your July or August trip studies show That about six weeks ahead of time tends to be the optimal time I'd say six to eight weeks ahead of time if you book it too much sooner You'll pay more if you book it certainly in the last 14 days. You'll pay much more Interesting trivia when is the day that people actually book more online flights than any other day? And that is the first work day After New Year's all the Christmas shopping is done They know what they're paying on their bills and they're starting to think about their summer vacation and apparently they wait until they get To work to actually book interesting to know I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler book those flights now Thank You Chris And thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit you can submit stories of vote on them at daily tech news show dot Reddit comm and facebook comm slash groups slash daily tech news show What's in the mail bag Sarah? Well, we actually went to YouTube today Kelvin and one of our YouTube commenters commented on our discussion last week about Amazon's Australian based platform. He says I agree that this stinks. I'm a determined Australian I think Amazon is not only playing us with Amazon's own site, but with audible more so than Kindle like you can only have one Credit per month not the two. I was used to before the AU site came active among other backward steps That still exist even years later keep up the good work Yeah, so Kelvin's responding particularly to Amazon shutting down access to anything but the Australian site Which has a much smaller catalog than the worldwide site and Tector actually had An opinion column up today saying, you know, this this is the reverse of what the 10% tax wants to do They wanted a level playing field in Australia and they're like, well now you've got the level list of playing fields like it's just Australia. So We'll see where this goes we've seen Amazon do this fight in other parts of the world particularly the US over taxes and They usually don't win, but they usually get Concessions out of it. So we'll see if that works there Some warrior DX from YouTube commented on yesterday's show dude dark mode is something I've always wanted and it's Disgusting that we had 20 years of white Internet Okay, anyone remember booting up Windows 2000 earlier in the morning and getting blasted with the force of a thousand sons Yeah, that one's not far off Yeah, we don't need any of that save power reduce ice-drain stop imitating paper like it's relevant Yeah, man paper. Hey thumb warrior. I hear you man, but what about those of us who don't read well in low light? You know, it's teach that's why I think you give options, right? Exactly I'm warrior. You need the dark mode for sure. I mean, I've been ever since tweet deck, you know Had a dark mode of me being like, why would anyone look at it that way and people say why would you not? Some people need more light. 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Sometimes your tongue just gets tripped You're like 4.0 gigahertz. I know what I meant seriously people go listen to daily tech headlines You'll hear a perfect execution It's performance anxiety. No, that was good. No, it was a really good show That's why I don't do headlines live. Yeah Oh, yeah Sometimes sometimes I get through no problem Sometimes I'm like nailed it. Good work girl. And then other times I'm like, we're gonna have to do Story three four the sixth time in three two And well, that's the weird thing right is once you screw up once I tend to screw up over and over again Because you already know it even though you're going in there, you know and fixing things so true So roger. Yes. What are we calling this beautiful show that we've just created? This gem Not you Not okay. I like this because it's so corny Notch Yo full screen That's very clever that Lenovo Um show about that chat room net if you're watching live to make your your vote count Keyboards will be 86 in the future That's also pretty funny because like the 80 86 It's a little bit of a mash Yeah, but I get it. I get it. I get it. But not your full screen phone is pretty funny It's a very roger time. I really do think a two display Device where one of the displays could be a keyboard But isn't necessarily a keyboard is no longer a laptop The problem is they keep disrupting the keyboard in ways that don't improve it Uh, I don't have quite as much anger at the macbook keyboards as many people do But the macbook pro keyboard has been getting worse and worse over time The k120 from logitech that i'm using right now is my favorite keyboard and on-screen keyboards I just have they're nightmares for me I type twice as slow because I keep making mistakes or autocorrect changes what I typed correctly to something that's not right So I want like a good on-screen keyboard with haptics People were playing around with that for the longest time and it seems like they've just kind of stopped Another problem is there hasn't been a very good alternative to a keyboard that allows you to do the same amount of writing Like if you went to a stylist like a pen thing you can't hand write as fast as you could as you could type And there were the third-party keyboards xyp and others that that did a really good job of Working around that limitation And I know that a lot of people still use them, but in general they have fallen off as far as popularity Yeah, you know the the future is like the next step would be just straight voice to text automatically without Yeah, with the minimal of errors like as many as you would no, but I don't want to have to speak out loud all the time I want to be able to talk when it's crowded and you can't hear or when I don't want people to know what I'm typing Oh gosh, like when I'm on the phone with somebody I'm typing at them. Well, I mean not always but it's you know Multitasking is way less likely if you have to Tell the laptop what you want to say My idea has always been that the future keyboard would look a lot like a Is this stenographer like in a court stenographer where if you ever look at their keyboards, it's it's very it's like only 60 Or you know, not 60. It's like like a set of 24 keys or whatever, but all the keys relate to Annunciation right so sh and all that so instead of doing letters. You're just typing out mouth sounds phonemes. Yeah And I remember because we had I mentioned this before when I was in when I went to state one of the classes I took uh, one of my classmates was deaf and she had A stenographer who also doubled as a court stenographer taking notes in class That was great because I could like ask like how quick can you type? I'm like, you know, I would say something She's going Because it's like it's amazing. I mean unfortunately, it's a skill you can't it's not a skill you can expect everyone to have You know, I will I I Keywords one of the and you know, maybe some people can relate to this I stopped using my ipad really because I ended up needing to you know, if I was on it for a while and I'm watching tv or whatever and that's what I'm using I would need to type And I ended up just pulling for my mac way more often than I wanted to because I just wanted it You could but at that point it's like but I have my laptop You know, I and you know at that point the ipad is not really solving Well, I asked about that because I have a keyboard case the logitech keyboard case for the ipad pro is fantastic It is one of the better keyboards out there But I still will pull out my laptop because sometimes you need to have multiple windows with fast switching by mouse And you just don't have that on tablets. It's too clunky. There's too much thinking you have to do like Oh, wait, I I can put two things on the screen at once. It's like windows 1.0 Would you like to know 50% of the reason why I have an xbox is not a playstation 4 Is because xbox still sells chat boards that you can plug into the controller So if I'm searching for anything whether it's on amp like amazon prime video or Netflix or youtube, I can just punch it in like I don't have to do the hunt bet I mean grand avada connect keyboards for the ps4 though Yeah, but this one is just like super seamless. It's you know, it works in games. It's like just part of the unit It's not not a clue Well, no, but there's like official third-party accessories that add keyboards to the ps4 Well, but what I'm saying is that it's like designed from the outset The entire thing to use that keyboard to import Like I can punch in passwords I can do I'm just waiting for the email that tells you you can do Oh, no, I'm sure but I just there I tried a third-party ps3 keyboard and it sucked and I know it's there plenty of others, but I just The xbox the three so point I guess I guess the point I'm trying to make is this isn't about sony versus microsoft No, no, it's not. I'm just saying you wanted a way to type into exactly. I just wanted a Nice decent keyboard. I have a bluetooth keyboard that works with a ps3 or a ps4 And it was kluji to pull out and use like just having something that's all Comprehensive was really nice Sometimes you need a keyboard you do I I know what I want. I think I want I probably don't which you really really when it finally gets perfected I'll probably find problems with it, but it's a sub vocalization So where I don't have to speak out loud, but I can mouth the words and it will it will actually Create it. I guess brain reading would be even better where I just think the words but A mind reader a step to that would be like, you know, I could be in a coffee shop No one could hear me and I would just say, you know, I would just Type out and the stuff would type out if someone could read lips Yeah, but even then I mean, I'm not I'm not so worried about it. I'm not talking about security I'm talking about like I just don't like the idea of being overheard Something to look over your shoulder at what you're typing to like I'm not talking about ultimate security. I'm just talking about You know, I don't want to be the guy in the coffee shop trying to use voice recognition software I also think there's, you know, a certain amount of people myself included where I am a really fast typer You know, if I've got to get like a couple paragraphs out, that's what I want to do I want it to be on a keyboard But if you aren't used to doing that and you figured out other ways to do it, that's way less of a solution that you need I feel like we we want keyboards because we're used to them though Exactly. I'm just used to it. Yeah, you know, I took typing classes There should there should be a new thing that if we got used to would be so much better Handwriting we should have stylus courses Perhaps perhaps a dual screen Uh Laptop whatever you want to call it is our solution. I think it's brain reading Like just being able to just like put electrodes on your brain and you can just think the letters on There's going to be an app called the sorting hat cat or cat. What's the one in harry potter the sorting hat? The sorting hat Yeah, the sorting hat Sort out your thoughts your notes just put it on It would have to look just like the harry potter one with the fake mouth and the eyes like glow Into the eyes glow I don't think the eyes glow glowed glued Not glued the eyes were not glued All right, this show is in the can. Thanks folks for hanging around with us And uh, we will say goodbye to the video for now the streaming video. Bye. See you tomorrow. Bye everyone Thanks