 I think that on the spiritual journey one would never want to have the feeling of, like, coercion. Coercion, like, there was something above you that was like having a magnifying glass and putting a laser beam of light on an ant. You know, like Bruce Almighty says, it's like, oh, it's like a mean kid who's got a magnifying glass who's just trying to burn my feelings I'll have or something like that. No sense of coercion, a sense of lightness. When I had students years ago back in the 1990s, in the late 1980s and 1990s, sometimes I remember going to one of my students and I went to her house and I was with her and everything and a group of students were there and they watched me with her and she had actually said to me, if you notice anything going on in my mind, please, in order to save time, point it out to me. If there's anything that I say or do or anything that I'm missing that you feel like would be helpful, I openly invite you to point it out to me. Her husband was, she was into The Course in Miracles by the way, her husband was a Jewish man who attended synagogue and he kept an Orthodox Jew home. He had the foods of her kosher and you know, it was the belief system of that. And his name was Steve and he loved it when I would come over and he would love, even when I was in the other room talking and giving sessions and he would listen and occasionally come up to me and he'd go, it's amazing to me to even begin to ponder that time is just a construct. You know, with the Judaism and the tradition and all those, and the rituals and everything he'd say, but I can kind of feel it. I feel kind of spontaneous sometimes, David, where I feel like this is good stuff but he wasn't participating in the sessions on a regular basis or reading The Course or anything and he, you know, he was working through his guilt and fears and so on and so forth and trying to relate to his wife. It was just pretty interesting things, I'm sure, with you and Patricia, it was a similar kind of thing. And then, out to doubt Mary, we would have these really pointed, deep kind of discussions because of the invitation hers. And then the students would watch me get up from that and I'd walk over and Steve would be like, hey David, I got the basketball game on, come on! They'd watch me go in and sit with him on the couch and watch the basketball game or part of the basketball game. Always slapping him on the back and laughing and joking with him and everything and then later on we'd be in another context and they'd say, you're so hard on Mary and you're awful lighthearted and loose with Steve watching basketball games and everything and it's like, are you really treating them the same? Are you seeing the same Christ in them? And I said, oh yeah. I said, Mary gave me an invitation to point out things in her mind that were blocking her from the light and Steve has given no such invitation. He's not saying, free me of my Jewish religion and my heritage and my culture. Free me of my love of the Cincinnati Bearcats and the basketball game and their march to try to be number one in the country. Free me of my children and my self-conset with my wife. Let me see that I am the Yahweh. I am Yahweh one with God and this and this and this. He was barely, and I mean barely, barely making his first turn from traditional religion into a more expanded view of what could possibly maybe be beyond that. Was he going to stop going to the synagogue? No. Was he going to stop watching these basketball games? No. Was he going to stop worrying about his children? No. Was he going to be concerned about how much sex he had with his wife? Yes. He talks with me frequently about that. She's losing her sex drive with this course of miracles that this is not a good thing. Our frequency is going down and this is not a good thing. It's like, can I talk to you for a minute? Can I talk? Robots! Can I talk? You know, it's still going to be a very loving relationship and the context of the relationship is going to be a little different than it was with Mary, whose pathway was a course of miracles. Who is, we could say, opening to the whole instance, you know, to the disappearance of the universe, to the capacity that she could and so forth. So it starts to, that's kind of a little example about how you really do have to let go of the form of things. Because I think you will find you go crazy if you try to actually love everybody equally based on your own past learning and your own reference points. The spirit's going to have to take you there. There's no way that the human being is going to go, I now am the Christ, I love everyone equally, and all the creatures and critters and everything in the world. That big, great white shark, that ant, that mosquito, that, oh, that blood that's coming back for it. Love you, love you, love you. Thank you for that fight. You know, it's not, you can see from a human perspective, it's going to be hard to level the playing field, but with God all things are possible. Coming into purpose, coming deeper into purpose, in alignment with God, progressively, you know, step by step. It happens. It's happening. It's our natural direction to be in a state of natural love with everything, everyone.