 Okay, because, you know, even when you think about treetop nowadays, I think about treetop parruses. So I'm not thinking about another gang before that call. That's what people say. Well, parruses and bloods are the same thing. I beg to differ. You on boss talk one on one, one on one. Here we go on talk. Man, you know, you got BGF, UBN. That's a whole number. Yeah, but you got treetop. All of these things sanctioned and when you going, like, through the system of jail. Now, that's just like, you got, if you believe the fallacy, that's California, right? That a note gets put under your door. We don't want you that bad. If you can't put in work, you couldn't be a BGF. Let's get over there with the niggas and play dominoes and shit. Explain what a BGF feels to people. Yeah, that's what I would like for me. We being a Texas folks, okay? That's a California thing. It's all over the thing. I mean, really, it's a Black guerrilla family. Let's talk about that. It started with the Black Panther Party. Well, it did, it was the Black Hand first. That's what, before Doc Dem started, damn, what's his name? Well, I can't remember the brother's names. The OGs that really started the Black Hand. And it went in from the Black Hand and the Black Panther Party came up and George Fleta, not Rochelle, George Fleta, John Cluchet out of Compton, those are the Soledad brothers. And they formulated the BGF, the Black guerrilla family, the dragon. And they brought that in as a revolutionary concept on a prison element aside from the Black Panther Party was a political movement on the street. So the BGF sole concept was to search and destroy. And that's to dominate the prisons. In 1969, George, John Cluchet out of Compton and Fleta Drumgo, they allegedly killed the police in Soledad. In 1970, or 1969, 1970, George's brother, Jonathan, tried to break him out of jail. He didn't come to court though. And they had the Marin County killing and they shot Rochelle McGee 33 times and didn't kill him. Everybody got killed in the van, a judge, a district attorney and some. So Jonathan was 17 years old and went and took over the courtroom, right? And 1971, O.C. Allen, Jesse Phillips, Roosevelt, Jimmy James, they killed the police in Owing and Soledad. They were the Soledad seven out of Compton. Wow. So they came to San Quentin, 1971, George Jackson got killed in the San Quentin yard. The police killed him in 1971. So that was the building of the BGF, the Black Gorilla family. That's before Crips, that's before Bluzz, that's before Pyrrhus, they were, and before them, like I said, Captain Shahi was a businessman. After the businessman, it was the Slossons, the Gladiators, those, we've had gangs ever since. So it was gangs before Crips and Blood, it was gangs before that? Yes, you what? You thought they just popped up? When you say businessman, was it UBN? No, businessman was, UBN is a part of a set that they brought up, it didn't, UBN didn't start until 86, 87. You know, you had, before that it was called, they had for the Bloods and Tracy was called Bloodline, you know, but those are gang elements. You just came out of prison, but those are the gang elements on the Blood side. Then the Crips, they had C-notes, C-notes, what was they other? Well, you got to talk to Melvin about that. Because all you keep hearing is Bloods and Crips, so it's like, and all these other gangs like derived from that, so like it just baffles me like, I just didn't know that there was actually other gangs before Bloods and Crips. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Like I say, when I originally grew up, I originally grew up, my neighborhood was called Treetops. Treetops, yeah. Because all our streets, I'm from Elm Street, we were in Freddie Cougar out in there. So all the streets were named after trees. Fruittown is cherry, fig, plum, so they became Fruittown. The swamps in Compton, because it was a swamp over in their neighborhood, so they was the swamp area. Then they had Spooktown, because the train tracks came through 12 o'clock at night and they were woo, and they thought it was Spooks. Then they had, what Nutty Block was, they were called Boot Hill because they got the two graveyards in their neighborhood. And those are all names of gangs before Bloods and Crips? That was before, even from the 60s. Okay, because you know, even when you think about Treetop nowadays, I think about Treetop Parous. Parous, right. So I'm not thinking about another gang before that calls. Yeah, that's what people say, well, Parous and Bloods are the same thing. I beg to differ. It's a good thing you said that, because when I was, I don't know how much Google is correct, but when I was doing some research on it, when, I think, who was it? Owens and, what was the other guy? It was Owens and Scott, who, they say that started the parous, right, right. So, because it was a fight or whatever that caused, but the thing is that if those two guys were together, why didn't they start the Bloods together instead of creating one created Bloods and one created Parous? No, that's not the, Vincent and Sylvester Scott. Right. Vincent and Sylvester, they're both, Parous is a street in Compton. It's not a gang, it's a street. And all the, every family had five or six boys on their street. So they were the Parous boys. And so once that situation happened and they started calling them Roosters because it was red. And they would say, we the Parous boys. So once they became Roosters and the Bloods out of LA was in red too, so they associated. You know what I'm saying? You got different brands. It's the military, but you got the Navy, you got the Army. They're not the same, aren't they? But they are military. The Air Force don't do what the Army does. The Navy don't do what the Marines do. Parous with 10 square miles. It ain't but two sets in Compton. Parous and Crips. We don't have no Bloods in Compton, California. It's not a Bloods set in California. But it's a Bloods set, Circle Cities in Watts. You got 30 Parous in East LA. You got Avenue Parous in Inglewood. You got Neighborhood Parous. You got Parous in Pacoima. You got Parous in Pomona. You got Parous in Sacramento. We got Parous all over the world. So it wasn't Benson Owens who started that gang. Lil Vence grew up on Parous and Putin grew up on Parous. So he didn't actually start it though, that gang. They were the original seven dudes that put the name out. Oh, okay, okay. I was just trying to figure it out because when I'm doing recent reading, I'm like, those are the only two names that they mentioned. And I'm like, okay, so if they were friends, like why did they just create one big one instead of- They got one big one. Because when you talk about Fruit Town, when you talk about Cedar Block, when you talk about Campanella, it wasn't like it is today. It was just, because you can hear a lot of Crips talking about their activities. But you very seldom, and I've never heard, you cannot tell a LA Crip they came in and did a drive-by in Compton. Because our streets are so confusing. If you're not from there, you can't just come up in there and get, because everything down Rosecrane is all Parous. From the Harbor Freeway down to the 710 and in the middle of that is Santana Block, Crips. But everything from one freeway to the other freeway on Rosecrane is all Parous. From 135 to cross Atlantic, everything in between. So if you don't know where you're going, you can't go east or north or south, east or west and not get your hat brought to you. So it ain't many dudes that's gonna come across El Sagana or 120th to do anything in Compton because it's not their terrain. But we'll go to their neighborhoods, bus and come right on home. I don't do that type of stuff. I got big business with White America. I ain't got time to shoot a black man for what? Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk.