 We're talking to Gordon Foss and what is a very flash and a very nicely liveried M3 and a relatively new one by the look of it mate. Yeah thank you very much yeah we only just got the car on the road about one day before target and we actually hadn't driven the car on the road at all before we started this event so there's been a learning curve for us and to get the car you know keep it going and working out what it's going to do and not do so. So you've done the event before in minis you say right and so you chose an M3 what was that choice based on you like them or you thought it would be a good car? Wife said she was sick of waiting for us to be at the end of the event she wanted us to come home a bit earlier so I said we need more power for that and she said yeah buy something a bit more grumpy then. You're having fun what's what's the appeal of this? It's a real challenge I mean for us we like to come and have a giggle and you know just have a good time and you know it's a real challenge for us to get to the end for you know two old blokes so it is you know it's a real real challenge to get there and that's what we aim for.