 It's time for Matt Geekab and listener Alex brings us our quick tip of the week by sharing He says maybe everybody is already aware of this But on the lock screen you can tap on a widget and it takes you to the Corresponding app like weather or fitness or whatever the widget is that you have assuming the widget comes from an app Which they all do it will bring you to the corresponding app He says I had no idea my guess is this is news to other people too More quick tips like this plus your questions answered today a Matt Geekab 1025 for Monday, February 19th national chocolate mint day 2024 Greetings folks and welcome to Matt Geekab the show where you send in quick tips like that cool stuff found questions we Share all of the above we try to answer your questions We try to learn from all three because the goal is for each and every one of us to learn at least five new things Every single time we get together sponsors for this episode Include Zock doc comm slash mg g where you can sign up for free and download the app Find a great doctor and book an appointment today Factor meals comm slash mg g 50 where code mg g 50 gets you 50 percent off your first box of these Really delicious easy to eat meals and hymns comm slash mg g changing men's health care by by provide easy for me to say by providing Convenient quality care and you can start your free online visit today at hymns comm slash mg g We'll talk more in-depth about every single one of those in a minute or 17 here for now Here in Durham, New Hampshire. I'm Dave Hamilton Here in South Dakota, I am Adam Christensen And live at least I think I am from Hong Kong. It's pilot Pete greetings everybody. Yeah. Yeah, you're all over the place Pete I'm still I'm still astounded that it took us 10 years to figure out that You also could record remotely. I don't know why John could Right like this To be fair part of it was the Skype setup and having the right betas and all that in the early days that was We had the right Yeah, I mean like John and I had him and all I would do is put the the new beta that we weren't supposed to talk about what evidently we're talking about it and In the in like a drop box for us and John would just download it and up and run that you could have done the same thing I We started this show When doing a remote podcast recording was let's just say Not as turnkey a solution as it is today But we did it like we figured it out and it was no big deal once we had it up and running I don't know why we like we easily could have done this like there's no reason. It's just us being ridiculous You know anyway Hopefully your internet lasts. Hey, there is a little follow-up to Alex's quick tip that I shared in the opening He says if you wanted to open an app this way That does not offer a widget it is possible To add that to the lock screen by adding a shortcut that you create in the shortcuts app And then you can have there is an action a shortcut action for open app And so you could put a little You know widget on your lock screen to open an app that doesn't offer widgets and boom You know the shortcut will do its job and you're off to the races nice Yeah, and those and a lot of people use thumb thumb print fingerprint on the older phones and then face ID on the new Security if you're doing that Will it open the app without your face ID? Because I have a way to do it if it doesn't I think you've got to unlock your phone And we will acknowledge something that that the three of us talked about pre-show is that Pete's internet is Questionable despite him having recorded from this hotel before you you you you cut out a little bit while you were saying that it was all Very intelligible and all all good, but I just figured I'd acknowledge. Okay. Yeah It is spotty this morning for whatever reason not in turn. Sure. Well, I was gonna say additionally you can Set your watch if you have the Apple watch As long as it's in and you've got a passcode on it. It will unlock the phone for you So you don't have to be looking at your phone. I forget about that with all the with face ID You know if I'm if I'm looking at the screen chances are it has unlocked itself But if you're like you said if you're if you're using, you know a touch ID based phone still or Something and there's times. Well Now it does a nice job in the dark I guess it used infrared lighting or something like that. So even in a darkened room it'll unlock for you but there's times when I've Found that I've had my phone off at an angle either for, you know, not so it's not a disturbed Debbie With the light on from my phone when she's asleep, you know and on her side and facing me I don't want to light her up with the phone. Yeah, right So I can I can turn the phone away from me And it'll still open apps because my watch is unlocked and it just unlocks So you said that face ID uses infrared that I don't think that's correct Something for loads like technology, I assume it's it's not light right from from what I understand Adam It's it's doing like facial 3d mapping, right? That's right. Yeah, but yeah, but it's using that IR dot projector, right? Oh, it is a red mapping. Okay. I mean it's projecting those Billions of dots to spatial they need to surface map your face basically. Yeah, right, right Oh, and it's doing that with infrared. Okay. All right. Yeah, I don't Think it's a lidar somebody in the discord Jamie asked if it was lidar. I don't think it is it's called the true depth camera Right, but Combination of stuff, but I mean that's part of that IR projector in and I think you can You know like with certain cameras, you can even see those dots, right? You can you can see Infrared dots with some cameras. Yeah, but what is it? How does it work? Uh projecting thousands of invisible dots. Yeah, it's infrared To do the dots so it's not lidar Which which I would have thought it would be but that you know lidar is not cheap, I guess I don't know, but yeah, I'll put a I'll put a link on me. There's the phone to be fair What's that? They aren't giving them away this week Again, gosh, man, I thought with the vision pro out now Yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of vision pro Adam you want to take us to Mark's tip about some fun things Sure. Yeah Mark says I Don't see the tip in here. Okay. Yeah I Will I'll take this one then sorry I I think I I set you up for failure Adam Oh, it's a link to a tip mark shared a link to the accessibility features on vision pro on Apple site and so There are all kinds of them and we will link to this too That you know, there there are there's voiceover. There's zoom you can set the display and text size So it marks point is similar to the iPhone The accessibility features aren't things that would only be of interest to folks who have an Accessibility need a lot of these things are things that might wind up becoming their own features At a future date, which is often what we've seen with the iPhone like things like the inverse mode and even dark mode started as Accessibility is an inverse, you know invert the screen thing and then it moved to smart invert and then it became dark mode I mean ish and so there's there's things and again, we'll link to this but there's voiceover there zoom you can change the text size You can adjust the amount of motion You can do sound actions. There are things that you can do with the digital crown You can adjust the click speed for it And then adjusting sound and there's things that you can do with the s-lady and different per app settings for Things like like text size and and that sort of thing So it it is good to go and take a look at this article for all of the things or just go dig around in the In the accessibility settings on vision pro just like we do on our iPhones like and I think maybe that's the message to take away from Mark's tip is Treat this like you would your Mac or your iPhone like go go dig into every setting and see what it changes because that you know there is some level of Arbitrary ness if I made up a word to where Apple when Apple puts something in the accessibility features versus when it becomes its own top level feature in The settings app and so don't don't overlook them. So, yeah, which is good advice Yeah, I have something I have something on this. Yeah, I saw a YouTube video and I was hoping to find the guy's channel I thought I subscribed to it There's a tech youtuber who does accessibility and tech. Oh, it's called equal accessibility on YouTube And I'll grab the link. Okay, but he did he's I think quadriplegic it looks like and So he was doing a review on how accessible is the vision pro and If you look at the first tip that the first problem was it's not immediately obvious when you put this thing on How to turn on the accessibility features from the get-go and the very first tip on this apples page is You can turn on accessibility features right away when you set up the vision pro But it doesn't tell you how to you have to know this information ahead of time. First of all, right? There's no right. There's no, you know, like oftentimes with the Mac if you're you install it your new OS Right, and you boot up the Mac if you don't do anything you sit there on the screen, right? It starts to voice over and it starts talking to you. Yeah, right. The vision pro doesn't do this secondly Look how you activate the accessibility features immediately Triple-click the crown the digital crown. Oh How do you do that with no arms or no hands? Yeah That's it. Yeah, I mean presumably you've you've either Figured out a way or had someone help you put the vision pro on your on your face, right? But a lot of folks with no arms and hands can could you couldn't get it on? Yeah, yeah, that's fair a table and you can manipulate with your feet Like there's a lot of ways to you know, yep, that's fair. Yeah, huh? I did I didn't have like I use an iPhone I have you know all kinds of Apple devices and this first device I couldn't use right out of the box So he wrote to Tim Cook and and got some replies and things like that So it's an interesting video go watch the video equal accessibility is the YouTube channel Okay, yeah equal accessibility All right But yeah, and he pointed out like, you know even small things like had they just put the digital crown on The bottom edge instead of the top edge They could manipulate with a shoulder or a foot or another limb. Yeah, and the other interesting thing was I saw another person ask about you know What if you only have one eye is that work and there is an accessibility setting for setting up your dominant eye Or if you only have one eye so you can get it to operate with left eye or right eye or So, uh, it's interesting. Cool. I did I did get a chance to do the demo on Saturday I stopped I had I went down to see a friend on Saturday night in Connecticut and I booked an appointment for midway through my trip to sort of break up the drive and That 30 minutes goes by fast folks Soak it all in but I was I was impressed with How intuitive it was there you and I were talking about a little bit out of it There are parts of the interface that are not entirely intuitive, but But it's a it's a pretty smooth experience. I found I Can see if I were spending The same like if I were spending the same amount of time on planes that I did, you know, 10 years ago The same amount of time in hotel rooms. I would I would be very compelled to buy it for for those reasons I'm sure eventually I will wind up with one of these things at the moment. Here's some good news What's that about about how getting them faster? What's that at a better price? Today the 15th that they were recording. It's the first day that the returns Or the last day of the of the first people have to return Yeah That's right. They will be available on reverb in theory. Yeah refurb.me. Yeah So Henry was mentioning that on his show All right Yeah But yeah, go go book that demo my my family I mentioned it to my My wife and son as I was on the way out the door for for this thing on saturday night They were like, yeah, we don't know what we're gonna do today. I was like, well I'm gonna stop and do a vision pro demo. They're like, what? I'm like, yeah, you know, I I went on the app and I I booked it and that's what I'm gonna do Like Well, we want to do that like that's kind of why I mentioned it you you can Like we have lots of apple stores around us. So they they found some open appointments And they went and did it too Interestingly, they wound up buying each of them wound up buying not a vision pro But the latest quest that same day They oh wow Yeah, yeah, my um, my son had an older quest and had has been wanting the newer one and my wife Really wanted something That would allow for an immersive exercise experience at the house And the quest has totally delivered on this She's you know Every time she's like, yeah, I got to go exercise like okay. I I should spend 20 minutes doing this 45 minutes later, you know, she's worked up a full sweat and Forgot about the amount of time that that went by like she you know She plays a boxing game or something, but it's all like fitness games I know the fitness stuff is coming to vision pro the quest is also 500 bucks. Um, so, you know, yeah Yeah, yeah, I want to get a $4,000 piece of equipment sweaty Yeah But they they mentioned that they were gonna go look at the quests and then I saw an alert on my phone that two new six gigahertz Wi-Fi devices had joined our network and I I sent the notification home like looks like you guys did some shopping The other thing to point out with the quest is that it does support, you know Spatial Video and photos from yes your iphone. Oh very well. So oh it does. I didn't realize that Yeah, they added support for For the spatial video and photos. Oh, well, then I need to check this out Oh man, all right cool. Well, I got those videos you sent me Pete. So I uh, yeah Like I said, and then oh and they did fix the The latest update Pete by the way. Yeah fixed the immersive Video problem that I had where You would have the small window and then you'd go into immersive mode and you'd still have a small window with the haze around it Now it goes full Oh nice Okay, you still get a little white haze edge But it puts you into the into the space like I was expecting it to from the get go So I don't know why they launched it the way they did or why yeah, right? Yeah, whatever that first they may not they may not have realized until they went. Oh this ain't working like we advertised Yeah, yeah, whoops. Yeah, whoops All right back to uh, we might as well finish out the quick tips. We actually do have some uh, that was a little more Vision pro tip. Well, it was a discussion. Pete. It's okay. We take tangents and and we reserve that right in fact I think if we didn't take tangents this show would be Less interesting to listen to you can let us know what you think about that though feedback at mackeykeb.com We we do try to make the show you heard him feedback at mackeykeb.com. Stop what you're doing right now and send it That's right Feedback then hit play calm then hit play again. That's right. Uh dan shares in in uh reaction to my tip in the Last or our tip in the last episode he says uh, he says when john was talking about Putting his printer on a smart switch I thought he was going to share for a different reason that being to be able to restart the device easily and remotely He says I have my tv On a a light I have a tv light strip on one because occasionally they stop responding to their timer Or the remote a simple restart and they're back to working as normal But some things are difficult to get uh, it's difficult to get to the plug Where it fits into the wall of the power strip if it's behind a desk or other furniture Since I also have one on my optimum altis box tooth so I can restart it without even getting up I need to put one of these on my new uh invidious shield because This has happened But I told you I've had I've been running that thing for like two weeks It's all we use and we love it Except my family hasn't figured out that the the the way That works best to turn it off is to just touch the power button on the remote one quick press Turns off the tv and the shield and everything's good If they hold down the power button As it was evident they did on saturday night because when I got home on sunday I saw this symptom and it was the same was true when I had a band rehearsal Earlier in the week It won't turn on if they hold down the power button until the thing turns off The only way I found to get it to come back on is to power cycle it There might be another way if you know again feedback at mackykev.com, but uh So putting a putting a extra smart switch on the shield would perhaps just be my solutions because otherwise pete I have to get up off the couch Yeah, like walk all the way across the room like caveman I I don't even understand Why it's 2024. Why did we why are we in 2024 if I have to get up off the couch to to do this What was that kid's movie or the robots were all waiting on it. It was a it was a cartoon Wally all I think that was it. Yeah, everybody's fat and they're just laying around drinking milkshakes and The robots are waiting on them. I know that that's not where I want to go However, there are moments in the day where that is where I want to be. Yes, right. That's right. Exactly And that that's Yeah, another day we need to get into my theory about Pixar and apples relationship and how Pixar movies predict the future of what apple is going to do I mean you've tugged on the thread or you've you've presented the thread adam Yeah, what what what is there more to your theory here? No, so like, you know, Wally is like our future and if you look at the progression of screens To where we are today with the vision pro That's about one step further, right? We're in our little far floating chairs and communicating to the person next to us Looking at a a display that's in this case probably going to be more projected in your eye But there's that and there was there was the whole You know iPad sort of thing in the Incredibles slipping out of a yellow middle envelope before Steve Jobs did the original MacBook Air announcement with the middle envelope and there's a lot of parallels that go and just like Wonder where some of those ideas came from, you know, yeah, well, I mean the the uh The Star Trek definitely predicted They're paved the way for a lot of technology that we That we use today or in like invented conceptualized, I guess is really the the right term to use, right? Yeah, because they didn't invent the communicator They just they built a plastic thing, right that they treated like it worked But that like those but as you remember the communicator was lined a site They couldn't communicate if the ship was there were times it'll get with the communicator was out of range You're right. Yeah, you call anywhere on the globe with your iPhone in theory Especially now with the uh sat satcom, right? That's right in the 15 and then uh, you know the tricorder Oh, there's something wrong with your I want tricorders that that I think I mean I I'm not I know I'm not the only one but And then Dick Tracy, of course had the spark wash, right phone calls and yes commissioner Yep Yeah, I feel and I you know, I know I talked about the ultra on a recent episode I feel like the ultra really is the First apple watch that feels like a dick tracy watch like it just does all the things I was able to easily type on on the onscreen qwerty keyboard the other day to I needed to add a weather location Uh, because I was going down to Connecticut and I wanted to put that you know the town I was I was going in and I was like, how can I do this on my watch? It's like there's a keyboard Oh, good luck. And I just tapped it out. No, not nary a fat finger happened. So that was like wow I'm pretty good with the little, you know, draw the letters one. Yeah, I love that. I use it all the time to do Respond to texts and stuff like that. It works. It's bad about things like the graffiti. Yeah, exactly Yeah from the palm it's bad about things. So if you want a semi colon or something, it'll give you an exclamation point Yeah, you know that that drives me nuts. It's like, oh, come on I gotta be quicker, Pete. I appreciate that you find it important enough to correctly use a semi colon when scratching out a sentence on your watch That alone is part of why I love you, Pete. So Actually, the problem with that thing is that they're not using graffiti because that was the genius with graffiti because you had certain gestures and swipes like the one that I really miss from graffiti was You'd sort of do a, uh, you know a backwards Down tick and then swipe back and then it would delete backwards. Yes. Yes, right Yeah, yeah. So the question that brings me to Is anal retinob hyphenated? Oh, man Yeah, yeah, one of my friends, uh I have a quick one. Yes, I have a quick tip from Terry. I resemble that remark, Pete Yeah, Terry has a really quick one for the vision pro. He says you can have multiple safari windows on the vision pro All you have to do is open the sidebar to show the tabs that little sidebar button We're all familiar with in safari and then drag the title of the tab out to be another window So you can have all your when you get up safari browsers all around you It could do 360 if you want you could leave ones in other rooms if you want and come back to them later Yeah, it's true. I uh It it he sent us a video which I've linked to in the show notes. So you you folks can see it too Uh, if you are having trouble from that description, uh, terry does a great job terry's a lifelong educator It's not it's no surprise that his quick little video illustrates this perfectly. But yeah, it's pretty good I was I was having trouble tabs just yesterday in there because I was like Oh, I've got it's like you have seven tabs open. I'm like Okay, how do I close my tabs and I went over the tab thing and I got the tab view where all my tabs came out as windows And I was like they don't have the little Circle on them like why don't you have the little circle on them so I can close them And that was really frustrating me and I was like I spent a little while figuring it out And then I realized like when you look at the where you would open the tabs thing It drops down the tab bar and then you can see all your tabs and then you can view them and click between them But if you do that pinch and hold thing it will give you the contextual menu so you can actually like close So Uh, yeah, yeah It it like like I said folks if if you have an apple store within driving distance of you Go do this demo. It you're going to it. It's I think it's going to be important to at least understand the mechanics of how this vision pro works But you know, even if you don't have the latest iphone Or you don't have the latest mac You understand how a keyboard works how a trackpad works how a mouse works how how You know, you probably understand how You know touch works and pinch and zoom on an iphone Spending the 30 minutes with a vision pro will give you all of that With the vision pro so you can understand this new paradigm that the world is kind of You know dabbling in so yeah one one other thing terry mentioned on the vision pro In that video was kind of a bonus quick tip He keeps a clock The clock app up permanently kind of off to his right And and he just casually mentioned it as he as his glance, you know moved past it He's like oh, yeah, and there you know to the right of my clock, which I keep up all the time So I can see what time it is I have another safari window or whatever and you know, and he was just showing these It's like right that is one thing I missed in my vision pro demo I had I mentioned the time went by very quickly because I had no idea what time it was and it is a different world That you're in in there. I mean it's it's augmented reality, but It's different and so when he was like, all right, and and you're done. It's like Okay, and I mean I looked at my watch. I was like, oh, you are correct. Like we are done, but wow, okay So yeah, have that clock up otherwise, you know, you'll get on that That ram you like being in a casino that was Interesting you brought up the clock thing because I was doing that just this morning. I was like Doing some stuff on the vision pro and I was like What time is it? Yeah So I was like, well, I just asked s lady and it popped up which is great right in front of you So that was the easy way and then I was like, why is there not some sort of clock? And the only other way that I figured out I do it without using a dedicated app or widget or something like that You can go up to the control center Which you get to by looking up and then this little down arrow appears And then you can tap that and the clock is in the control center along with your battery All that other stuff. So that's I wish I had known that because I I would have looked at the clock a few times during the demo So yeah Yeah, yeah. So now you can change Go ahead. Yeah, there's a setting also to change like how far up you have to look before you see the little control center I can too. So you can mess with that in your settings Yeah, is is there any light coming in from below? In other words, if you had your Arm against can you look down at your watch? I could have for for me. There was light coming in Under like around my nose I noticed it at first and he said if it becomes an issue we can work and address that But it was clear he didn't want to spend all our demo time on it and and it like That was the last time I thought about it until this very moment when you asked this Like it's just not a big deal. Yeah, there's a little light leak around the nose That's about the only place where I do get to I do get light leak and I have another quick tip just on comfort I'm learning that You can get it to be a lot more comfortable and wear it a lot longer I know a lot of people are complaining about the weight by Like either moving the positioning of the band so like the solo loop Initially, you want to put it like around the back of your head I find and other people have mentioned if you move it just up a little bit higher It feels like it might slip off, but it's not going to slip off Um, just higher up on your head It pulls the weight off of the top of your forehead And then the other thing is is like when you first put it on you you feel like you want to crank that dial Like you really want to like cinch it in Don't cinch it in it doesn't need to be super tight and that makes it a lot more comfortable as well. So yep Yep, oh now people aren't going to return them, Adam It'll be comfortable enough It's cost us money bill brings us our next quick tip courtesy of bill. So let's see if we can get this to play Hello, Dave pilot Pete and Adam. This is bill from middle of our california I have a quick tip here For those of us who did not grow up in unix land and are not programmers But who occasionally need to use the terminal We are often told to use the man command to view the manual for a particular unix or ios command But when we do we see that man file in a dorky text editor that is for normal people a pain I can never remember how to close out of it. It's control something or another There is a better way to look at man pages onyx In its utility section includes a manuals reader It lets you open whatever man page you want scroll it back and forth and read the details One quirk because you do have to double click on the command name in the left column to open a particular manual And it doesn't have a search function. However, you can easily search through a large Single manual by opening it in preview, which is just a one click away So you don't have to have two terminal windows open one on man and one on a command line And fiddling around you can use onyx to see those man pages I think this might be helpful to anyone who only occasionally visits the terminal Take care and don't get caught Hey folks, let's talk about upgrades not for your tech but for you. 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Yeah, mike writes in and asks Hi guys, can you remind me of one of your current recommendations for a network audio appliance with an eight One eighth inch stereo audio jack that is airplay 2 compatible similar to the old features of the airport express I want to repurpose some decent but old speakers and add them to my home kit setup Thanks mike and and I think is that three millimeter for those on the metric system? I think so I just call it a headphone jack. Yeah The mini headphone jack. Yeah, not a quarter inch headphone jack. Yeah, exactly. Um The good news is we've had this conversation on the show before without a whole lot of great answers There are some great answers now There's two companies that I would recommend and feel comfortable recommending and look at for this one is belkin They make what they call the sound form connect Uh airplay 2 adapter. It's 89 bucks on amazon. It has both The headphone analog audio out the you know the mini headphone jack whatever size you want to call that It's also got the toss link optical out on it. And of course, uh, yep It and it's got you know, it's wi-fi this one does 16 bit and 44.1 kilohertz sound which is cd quality sound we can argue the merits of having something more Powerful than that, but I don't think you need it for For what you're doing there. So so there is that then There's another company that you might not be as familiar with wim wi. I am they make two things One is what they call their wim mini which is their airplay 2 wireless audio streamer It has uh the same toss link Optical out. It's got your headphone opt optical out. It's also got an aux in And uh, and it will you know kind of it kind of let you Take any sound you want and pass it through to those speakers. So it becomes sort of your hub and of course it is airplay Capable as as well as letting you know the other sound in through its Through its its sound input port it also is 89 dollars and uh and available on amazon So we've got a link for that and then there is the wim pro And there's even the wim pro plus or something. Uh, yeah the wim pro plus which comes with a remote and things like that uh this The uh the difference between the wim and the wim pro plus Is that the pro and pro plus support ethernet chromecast The amazon a lady multi room and other Output types. So again for what you're doing the 89 dollar wim mini would probably be totally fine The wim pro is 149 the wim pro plus. I think is 219 But uh, you get some more outputs. You get stereo rca line outs and line in You get sp toss link the optical input and output again ethernet some of those things But uh, if all you're looking for is airplay 2 then the the wim mini or the belkin sound form connect would be the Would be the answer there. So That's those are my thoughts on it Any thoughts adam Oh, well, I'm by maybe I'm naive because I haven't looked at the products in a while, but um, I used to like I mean, they're More pricey. Uh, yeah, but the stuff from audio engine. Don't they do a couple like Adapters, I think it's called the b-fi or the b1 or something like that Yeah, did they still do an airplay capable adapter over the audio engine? No, that's the part I didn't know So, okay Hesitated to bring it up in response to airplay 2. I know they used to play nice with airplay back in the day I had one of the like b ones or something like that The b1 is bluetooth only that I I know for sure, but right there is the b-fi Uh that you also mentioned and I believe the b-fi it is still available And uh, does it do it says airplay it does say it has airplay, but I don't know if it's airplay 2 Oh Right Yeah, it does say airplay for the b-fi. So it's pricey if it's only if it's not airplay 2. Yeah, exactly It yeah, it's 189 bucks Yeah, usually high end dachs and stuff like that Right, so that wouldn't be backward compatible Um It it would be but not for the multi room stuff, right airplay 2 adds the multi room So And you might want that depending on how you're gonna do things in your home Yeah, um, yeah, but you know these things go ahead adam I was just saying the reality is Reality for me I was gonna bring this up too is that like I and the reason I don't know is because once I got home pods For audio, I don't I don't really use anything else or I use sonos or I use, you know My home pods. So I'm kind of out of the loop on the little adapters for doing I Yeah, I um I looked at these because I was using airplay 2 more with sonos and other devices because I like Mike I had Some speakers that it was like well if I could put an adapter on these I now have another Sound output source that's compatible with the rest of my system, right? So It there's an argument that if you are a you know, mostly home pod household One of these things Is perhaps even more relevant for you, right? Like I mean For at 89 bucks, you're not that far off from from buying a home pod. So it you know you are a home pod mini Right. What's a home pod mini now? But they're 99 bucks. They're 99 bucks, right? You probably can get refurbs for cheaper. Yeah, so You know, you're yeah, it's 99 bucks. Yeah, so like but If you've got a set of you know desktop speakers that are stereo that you can put Yeah, six feet apart from each other is something and run them off of one of these We've already got the speakers you paid 89 bucks and now you've got a stereo pair As opposed to just one home pod mini. So, uh, you know, yeah Yeah, cool. Yeah, good stuff. Thanks, Mike. That's uh You made me research this mic and I I was happy to find Things that solved this problem because like I said the last time we researched this it was like there were There wasn't much out there. Yeah, it was off-brand Chinese stuff that would They would always look the same But every time we looked at it, it was from a different name Of a manufacturer and I was like, god, do I really want to recommend this on the show? Like And maybe it's the same manufacturer making these for belkin and wim. I don't know it could very well be but uh, but at least they're supported by brands that that You have a really good chance of getting good support from so yeah a little bit of a history. So All right, uh, you want to take us to I'll say left-win. I think we're pronouncing your name left-win left-win or leo-fwin. Yep. Uh says, hey, I know mgd is transition transitioned from evernote Sad, but I've ignored evernote for years now I've been paying the 70 bucks or so annual subscription just to keep a ton of legacy data handy And I've needed to pull a few obscure items from back in the day when I kept everything in evernote I think a lot of us did This week they informed me that the subscription price is almost doubling to 130 bucks ouch So I've canceled it as of March 6th It was a luxury to keep around for rare archive digging occasions But this is now a ridiculous cost for a once or twice a year thing But I canceled without really thinking about it ahead of time. So help please I've logged into evernote online to cancel and see that all my notes are still there I haven't even installed a new version of evernote on my m2 macbook pro And I don't really want to at this point However, there doesn't seem to be a way to export my data from the web interface only via a mac or a windows client Any ideas or do I have to go through the hassle of the app update to save my data? And any insight on what the export format looks like and works with Yes, uh, in fact, yes to all of those questions. So let's move on. No, no, no The answer is is yes, I I have been through this, right? We is as you remember Left when we used to use evernote because it was a note app that allowed cloud syncing among multiple people And that solved the problem Of us having access to the same library for when we're doing this. In fact In years past your your question would have been prepared by me into evernote And adam would have read it out of evernote. I know adam wasn't part of mgg years ago, but just go with me on this Uh, now we did that same thing with notes, right? And and I put it into notes and adam just read it out of notes Getting things Your your history from evernote to notes is thankfully very easy Going the other direction Not so easy, but uh, apple evernote will export your entire set of notes into e n e x format And apple's uh notes app will import e n e x format So it truly is built to do this The other yes that I was answering is in fact Yes, you have to download the mac app to do this. The good news is You can run the old evernote legacy app and the new evernote app on the same mac at the same time They will maintain their own copies of your same synced evernote database. It works great We did that for a long time because apple script support does not exist in the new evernote app So we would use the old one to put notes into it because we could script that process And then we would use the new one to read it because it was a better reading experience So that all didn't matter. It was all kind of the same And uh and works well, but yeah, you're gonna have to download the app It's a temporary thing download it Export pull it into notes and uh, and you're good. You should be good to go But yes, I your note made me think I think I'm on the free plan I left one's fine. He could just go to the free plan The only problem is he won't be able to upload lots of new data I am wrong about that assumption Uh, the free plan allows you to have up to 50 notes and one notebook now I should I should share how they articulate that they say create up to 50 notes and one notebook I think if you scale down from a plan that let you create more down to the free plan I think you will keep all of your notes But that is a guess and please don't use my guess As you're the foundation of a future workflow that matters to you Export this stuff out get it into notes get it into something you if you have a sonology disk station They have note station, which is an app that you can install on there that also Not only will it import an e n e x file it will sync with your evernote database You just log it in and it will slurp it all down That's another way to do it and they have ios and mac apps for for that too So I'm probably going to do one more sync of evernote just to make sure I have my data in several places But um, but I think it will stick around I just won't be able to add anymore But I won't know until june because I was also on the annual plan But I am not anymore. I've moved to the free plan. So come june I'll be able to speak to this. So this is like a slow motion Sherlock there over at evernote I mean Kind of yeah, I feel bad for him, but it's uh Well, it's taken over and it's cross-platform that sure right fair enough. Yeah So if you need to collaborate, um, it is one way to do it But there's also microsoft one note Which I think winds up being cheaper Especially if you're getting it as part of other microsoft things that you're buying and that's cross-platform Again, Synology note station cross-platform. Well, you see their need to raise prices as people are leaving. It's yes Yeah Yeah, chicken and egg problem or egg and chicken problem. I guess the other way around I mean, I think I know I think I know what the title of the episode was I thought it was going to be something about the importance of the semicolon But uh, the egg and chicken problem is about as good as it's ever going to get I think so I also think this is a actually turns out to be a good time to talk about that thing that I want to talk about Since it relates to app pricing. So yes, yes a little bit of an audible jumping ahead one, but Yeah, yeah, so this came up for me with the vision pro because I'm you know, I'm trying to use the vision pro I'm trying to figure out, you know, what's the use case for this? What can I do and obviously Games is one of those things that you want to do but just you know apps in general So there's a general I think I mentioned this last time right that, you know, it needs a it needs more apps, but you know, it's early days So it's just like early days on the iphone, you know, like So but i'm constantly going to the app store for look to look perhaps a big problem right now is that The discovery is not very good because there are a lot of vision pro apps But apple only highlights a few of them and it's really hard to find Like a section that's just like show me all the vision pro apps. I haven't done it on the app store yet You can't maybe I okay I haven't found it in the vision pro app store, you know You can look through and they have categories and you can see all the categories, you know Like here's the new stuff, but it stops after a few I want just a place where I can see like the full list of all the vision pro apps You know like 600 of them, but I don't know I digress you can search for them And then it'll show you this is vision pro versus ipad, you know, but you have to know what you're searching for Sure You know, I want to browse Anyway, I digress so I was going through and looking for things to try out and I came across this game I pulled it up over here. Hopefully I still got no I closed the tab, of course, of course called No, no, I'm gonna get it wrong now add it up earlier But it's this, you know, it's like a 3d app and you basically it's kind of like a puzzle It creates this 3d environment and you find little pieces of the 3d model and you kind of Reassemble the model and it gets more complex as you go and it's got a bunch of levels and stuff like that And I saw that it was available for free download with in-app purchase and so I looked at the in-app in-app purchase on it and um It was like, you know, because I I was in curious, you know What what is if I want the full version of this because basically you get one one Sure, like level or whatever you call it one puzzle is like the demo and if you want the other nine And they're gonna add more as time goes on If you want the other nine, you've got to pay, you know, in-app purchase and I'm like, okay So what is it? It's like 999 and it's like, oh that it's not too bad if it's a really good game and I like it Um, great And uh, so I downloaded it. I tried the first thing and I'm like, oh This is actually pretty cool because like once you've built this like diorama thing basically You can scale it up and you can kind of walk through it and like experience it and all that sort of stuff um, and I was like, okay, it's great. I'll I'll pay the 10 bucks, you know, and I went to go do the in-app purchase and it's 10 bucks a month Yeah, that's different Yeah 120 bucks a year So I don't know if it's just because they realize Like again, like early days of the iphone remember there was like some crazy priced apps Um, and I'm not against subscription models like sure. No, you never had it been Had it been a buck 99 or 299. I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, that's that's fine Like I'll pay that because it's it's actually I recognize the amount of work that went into this. It's really well built It's immersive. It's really it's really entertaining and relaxing and fun It's it's kind of meant to be more relaxing kind of game. It's not really difficult You know, you see the pieces and you kind of drag them down and you just give me the name of the game one more time Adam, let me I I need to actually look it up Okay, all right to go into my into my browser history because I had a hard time finding it too Okay, we can just put it in the show notes. It it's totally fine. I'll I'll get it I'll definitely get it for you if you give me a second because I definitely had it pulled up here Uh Luna Okay, okay. Yep. Cool. All right. Yeah, and it's this spatial spatial puzzle game I had the link and I can get you the link to it or you can find the link to it Yeah, it's called it's called Luna And so like I went and looked at the reviews and then there's a bunch of people obviously they're like This is a great game This pricing is crazy and it sounds like they brought it down because earlier reviews were saying it was initially 20 bucks a month Oh, wow Okay, yeah, and you know 240 dollars a year for a game That's like a game platform. Like I don't know Like again, if they're just thinking well, if people are willing to pay $3,500 for the thing They're going to be willing to pay a lot more for software And you know, I don't want to admonish this developer because I do I recognize the amount of work that goes into it I think developers should get paid. Yeah, like if this is going to be the pricing model Perhaps on vision pro That's insanity. Like I just had to point that out It's like so I almost left a review But you know, I didn't want to like because it it's really well designed and it's a really beautiful game, but 10 bucks, they could lower the price to three bucks a week Then it's only 156 bucks a year. So instead of leaving a review We'll just share with about 50,000 people here and uh and and what that ripple No, but like these are important conversations to have and and I I always do this But anytime we mention a product service company what anyone on the show Uh, I always try to let the the you know The principles or the PR people or whatever know so that they can hear the conversation if they want and and I think Hopefully they would agree that they want to hear this even though it might not be what they want to hear Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean and if it was console game priced like, you know 50 60 bucks for The whole app. Yeah, that I'd even be okay with that and that sounds pricey But like if you bought a video game for your playstation or your xbox or whatever your pc You're gonna pay that so that seems perfectly reasonable, you know in terms of our price, but Well, like my wife dollars a year. It's like I'll go I'll go buy an xbox and you know Get a bunch of other games for My wife has a fitness app all of the apps on uh on the the quest at least all the ones she's encountered Allow essentially a 14 day Trial period you buy the app and then you can return it and get your money back in the first 14 days As long as a it's 14 days or less and b you've used the app for less than two hours And I like that idea Because it really does let you you've got to commit to wanting to try it you've paid for it It's up to you to to do the return. It's you know So the that if you just go with momentum You will you will have paid for it and then you will keep it and that's it But you know, if you're if you're diligent about it, obviously you can easily manage that process Uh, but there is one app that she's using for fitness that she thinks she's gonna stick with And after that 14 days, uh, it then is like either 10 bucks a month or 100 bucks a year But they are adding new it's kind of like apple fitness where they're adding new Classes all the time and different things so that you're not six months from now hearing Exactly the same Instructor say exactly the same thing over and over again and and uh, you know getting bored with it So like in that sense, I get it. It's and it's way cheaper than a gym membership In fact, she she canceled She's been talking about whether or not it's worth it for her to pay like the hundred bucks a month to her yoga studio That that she'd been going to and hadn't really been uh finding time to go to and So this for 500 bucks plus another hundred bucks a year That's six months of yoga and now then then it's paid for so yeah I mean in this app begin to be fair They're planning on adding new levels and continuing to add things so I get the subscription thing Yeah, I just think you know, that's a lot. That's a little heavy Yeah, yeah, I agree in my opinion, but you know, maybe I'm wrong. I agree. Yeah. I mean, well, yeah like time will tell so Yeah, time time will tell uh All right, james asks us he says, um eventually and soon i'm gonna Ditch my late 2018 mac mini And uh get a higher end mac book pro I've determined that I would benefit greatly from the mobility and of course the Speed improvements and all of that good stuff. Well in my office though My intention will be to maintain a similar Effective setup to what I have now dual 4k displays and multiple usb accessories The safe assumption is that the yet to be released mac book pro that I will eventually buy Will have less total ports than my current desktop machine. That's probably fair So additional aptors ports hubs dongles will be needed. Uh, and he says yes, I'm already on my Mac mini using every port that's there plus a couple of dongles My question for my future self and for all of us is whether it would be better to utilize a single Thunderbolt hub that connects to all of my external devices something like the cal digit ts4 or the owc Thunderbolt 4 hub or to employ separate and distinct adapters. For example, possibly You know one hub for my external ssd's and microphones and then use a different Thunderbolt adapter for my external displays In combination possibly with the max hdmi port Focusing my question will connecting two displays and multiple usb devices to the same hub and therefore the same port on my mac negatively Effect ssd speeds as all of those devices are sharing a single Thunderbolt ports bandwidth Would it be better purely from a bandwidth perspective? To instead spread those across the multiple ports that I am hoping my future mac book pro will still have Is each port a separate bus? I don't mind plugging two to three wires in regularly if it improves performance What do you guys think? You want to uh, you want to start this one out? Yeah, there's a lot in this and you're probably gonna be better a little bit better than me at unpacking this But like to simply answer the questions from what my knowledge is like great Different max like the the bus question Different max have different buses which is like why things like the mac book air I think still only support one external display or maybe two. I can't remember. There's like there's like a limit Yeah, um And in terms of like having multiple things on the same bus. I know that can affect performance. I don't know how much I think like ssds and those sorts of things and Thunderbolt itself has a lot of bandwidth So it often puzzles me where people get a little bit worried about this But I know there's a lot of people that are like I want Maximum throughput to my external like ssds all the time I don't want anything slowing that down and I get that I I don't operate at that level I'm not doing like high-end video and all that those sorts of things So I think yeah, it all depends on I think comes down to how you want your setup like for me I know I I haven't gone to Thunderbolt monitors yet And one of the reasons I haven't is because I want everything on a single cable like I love the convenience of just having one cable that plugs into my macbook pro and Everything's connected to a hub and with my displays I want a daisy chain my displays and there aren't that many displays on the market that have Underbolt coming in and then a Thunderbolt out so you can go to another monitor including apples by the way Yeah, which is just baffling to me. So like I know I think That there's like one or two companies that make them and I've looked at them And I just haven't pulled the trigger on a On a like 4k 5k display yet But because I want to and I want a daisy chain them So that's where I'm at with it like I prefer just everything one hub Um and hooking it up that way, but I don't worry about maximum throughput on all my Yeah, I'm I'm kind of the same as you kind of Here in the studio is probably a great example Because I'm running a mac studio which has I believe four Thunderbolt buses, right? And so uh I have optimized things because Why not it's not a portable machine it like it once I plug it in I kind of forget about it, which is sort of the point, you know, I come up here and I turn it on and I'm good to go But I do have three monitors connected to this And only it only has one hdmi port. So I am using an hdmi port for one And I have done tests both with this machine and the the machine I had up here prior that was also a Thunderbolt mac Uh where running if I plug a you know, Thunderbolt hub into one of the Thunderbolt ports And then put an ssd uh off of that hub And then a monitor also off of that hub, which you can do because you know, a lot of these Thunderbolt docks will have certainly many of them now with Thunderbolt 4 and and Support hubbing right so you can have multiple Thunderbolt ports, but they also support there They might have their own hdmi or their own usbc Output that supports a usbc monitor, right because those those exist not Thunderbolt monitors, but usbc monitors or Display port or whatever the you know, the Thunderbolt dock might have Hooking up two monitors to a Thunderbolt dock and then an ssd I noticed that my right speeds not my read speeds, but my right speeds to that ssd Go down or conversely go up when I remove the monitors because Those monitors are a con to require a constant digital stream of data Going to them. It's kind of how it works when you stop and think about it. It makes a lot of sense, right? so I have compartmentalized things up here in the studio so that my I have I keep one That this this max studio that I got it is the base model M1 max studio, right and it's great. It's awesome but that meant that it's got 32 gigs of of unified memory, which is awesome and 512 gigs of ssd space, which is fine But not awesome and certainly not the amount that I need so I have An owc on void drive that hangs off of this and lives there full time And it is plugged into one of the Thunderbolt ports Which on this means one of the Thunderbolt buses and that is entirely dedicated to that drive because I save lots of things on it in fact If memory serves I think I even save the audio for the show directly to that drive if I don't it gets archived There's something I don't know I forget it doesn't matter I manage my storage so that I'm not over utilizing that precious 512 gigs on the boot drive But I in in like and then I have a separate Thunderbolt hub that feeds my other two or Thunderbolt dock Might even be usb dock. I can't remember But that feeds my other two monitors and that's dedicated And then I have one that's like dedicated to like the various peripherals that I'm going to plug in the kind of random things And that also includes my audio interface, which is Thunderbolt and so I want that to be prioritized and so I have thought about how to best manage this. Am I getting Full speed? Well, I am with the drive that I care about Uh, but other than that, I'm sure I've got some things that are in theory not perfectly engineered But I've got enough headroom on the bandwidth of these Thunderbolt buses that it doesn't actually matter Like none of these devices would soak up enough to impact the others. So But it is something to think about and and and what you really the question Going back to james specifically That you need to ask is How many buses not ports, but how many Thunderbolt buses does that MacBook pro that doesn't yet exist? Have you're right, adam the MacBook air has one Thunderbolt bus in it The MacBook pros the ones with That keeps changing so i'm going to get this wrong, but At one point in time and this may be that point in time The MacBook pros with two Thunderbolt ports had one bus and with four Thunderbolt ports or three Thunderbolt ports had two buses And it was you had to learn which was which I think it was split by side But I might be wrong on that But like you can look in the specs and you can look in system profiler and like see Those things and you get to even see in system profiler. It'll show you here's what's connected to this Thunderbolt bus Here's what's connected to this one and oh absolutely even if you think like me You know, I've got four ports. I know exactly where everything is Why just look system profiler will confirm it for you. You're either right or wrong You want to know so yeah, so wonderful little tool There's a great point about You know the difference between there is the difference between a notebook, right the convenience of having that one cable Versus a desktop where you know, hey, this thing's never moving. I can plug All four ports in and I don't care I don't care. In fact, it would be I I didn't have all four of them plugged in at first I got this machine up and running. This was one of those machines that I had to replace this past summer basically in an emergency after that lightning strike to the to the house or whatever and uh And so I just plugged it in I got it up and working and then a month and a half later I was in system profiler for some or the reason I was like, wait a minute. I have two Thunderbolt buses I'm not using at all Uh, I think I'm gonna change that, you know So every you know, I spent the 20 minutes to re-engineer it and I was like, yep, okay And now I I think I got it right when I just articulated it before but let's assume I did it doesn't matter Uh, yeah Yeah, so I got a question from uh from my daughter this morning This might be a geek challenge or you might just have the answer one of you guys She says is there any way to pair two sets of AirPods to one iPad? She says, uh, uh, my her fiance and her taking a train ride I think to Milan or their Verona or something this weekend and uh, they both want to watch a movie on the same iPad How do you do it? Is that possible? I seem to think that it is but I literally got this text while we were recording and so uh Yeah, how to pair two sets of AirPods with the same iPhone, I think it is possible Yeah, I think it is too for the move for the movie watching scenario though, though Can't you just share the audio? Yes Like two another set of AirPods so one person. Yeah, I think that's it. I know you can do that if that's the movie scenario, but they're not I mean, that's not When I think pairing I'm thinking like I have two sets of AirPods right paired to my mac and I bring this one over and that connects and then later I bring this one over and then that one connects But you can't share the audio. I know you can share audio for music app and Movies and things like that. I think it's limited to certain scenarios though. You you are correct For what they want to do. I think it is doable I found an article at how to geek that I'll put in the show notes about this and I will also Text to her But yeah, you when when you bring another set of AirPods close to a device that is playing audio and I can confirm this because I see it on planes all the time You know, I'll be watching a movie and it'll be like Do you want to pair to the susie's AirPods and you click the button like these are not your AirPods? You know no. Thank you. But once you do that then you use the It looks as though you use the airplay button in control center to to Decide how everything's going to go and you get to check the boxes Next to both of these sets of AirPods that are now connected to your device. So yeah, I think this is I think this is going to be doable. Well, that's good news. Thanks for my question I was thinking it was apple tv only that could do it and then uncle jamie mentioned in discord that uh, it's What story he used? inconvenient Yes, yeah, it's weird to do it on apple tv. I will agree it is possible, but it's It kind of sucks. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird process. Yeah. Yeah All right, uh How are we doing here on time? You know No, I want I want adam to take us to cool stuff found because porthos john has kind of a cool one We've done a lot of vision pro stuff this episode. So we might as well kind of kind of stick with that and then And then we'll do tony uh in next week's episode. So yeah yeah Yeah, so porthos john actually is solving a problem that I've thought about the same thing And he says one of the things on the design side that I lament on with the apple vision pro is The same as VR headsets as well And that is there's nothing that covers or protects the internal lenses including your snap in prescription or you know Lenses and stuff like that. So the lenses are open. They they give you that nice cover for the front They do not give you any kind of cover for like the inside And I don't know if they think just because it's kind of naturally protected by the face shield thing But you know dust and dirt and things can get in there And so he said I reverted to something that I used on my digital cameras for years a lens pen And if you don't know what a lens pen is it's like It looks like a fat like marker And you pop the end off and it has a little articulating Well, there's a couple different ways that this one you're showing Dave showing on the video has a slide out where you Push it out in a little, you know, like a mechanical pencil You might slide it out. Yep. Yeah comes out the end of it I have one where you pop it off and it has a little Pad with an articulating kind of thing And you would use it for your digital camera to get in and like Clean off the lenses or the sensors or stuff like it, you know, it's a lens cleaning cloth But it in pen form and he says you can spend 10 bucks on a lens pen or 25 on a full cleaning kit But they have a non-scratch carbon head that makes your glass super clear again. You don't ever clean the Apple You don't ever clean the apple visual vision pro internals with a rag or a towel They can scratch and they also tend to leave debris and fibers So, yeah, these little lens pens are great and again camera enthusiasts have used them for years and know about them I have one because I have a telescope and it came with a kit with You know a telescope that I bought for and you know the the problem I always thought was like even if you try to use a cloth, which you know as he says you probably shouldn't do Getting down in there, you know, it's it's kind of a reach. I guess you could pop off the the face shield I never thought about that That thing comes off pretty easy. It's maybe like attached so you can get on them more easily that way, but yeah lens pens are great so Great. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I've heard about them with uh Like for binoculars and and that's a also a good way of thinking about this because they're the vision pro Optically shares some things with binoculars. Yeah So the question I have adam is Have you sniffed that pen? Is it alcohol? There's there's there's no fluid or anything on it. It's it's a dry thing. Okay. So it's got it's got a special It's got a special tip on it. So yeah, yeah, basically you don't want you don't want to drag Especially with lenses. You don't want to drag even Microfine particles just like cross that you want something that's going to pick that stuff up So i'm not supposed to use the bottom of my shirt To clean these things like I do with my glasses. Paper towels, stave paper towels. Oh my gosh Oh, no, no, no. Oh man. Windex and paper towels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah We actually we are Our hud glass such as you've seen pictures of in fact that the video I sent adam and it has the hud in there HUD is being a heads up display It it displays that you pull this lens down in front of you and it projects at infinite focus All your flight dead in front of you. It's your primary flight instrument near speed attitude heading. Yeah, I digress That's a ten thousand dollar lens Yeah, so they provide us with special cleaning, you know, but but it's it's I think it's about a 50% alcohol Wet wipe and then a special dry cloth to uh because you don't want it to dry out there the alcohol would swatch If it was just a lot to dry so But that's why I was curious if the pen was alcohol if it was done, you know to break down They they do it to break down oils and things like that. You're not supposed to touch that lens But of course people seem to think it's a touch screen and Yeah fingerprints all over you're like, ah, all right But but there's a special anti-reflective coating on it and all that and that's what you're trying to avoid damaging Yeah, you we when I worked in an office So this is you know before my kids were even glimmers, uh I remember learning the hard way that like windex would remove the anti-glare coating immediately from your displays because The cleaning crew would come in at night and clean everything including all of our displays They would dust our displays which of course meant their rags had like windex on them And I got a new display one day and of course the cleaning crew came in that night and did their job and Then uh, the next day I noticed my job on your display Like brand new display looked very different. I was like, oh no, so then then we in you know Enlightened everyone me at the staff and of course the cleaning crew at city bank to don't do this anymore Maybe that's not such a good idea and they were like, oh my gosh. We're so sorry. I was like, yeah, you didn't know I didn't know, you know, it's like didn't even think about it. Yeah Oh, so Pete here's here's the thing. So I I I had to google this because I was curious So the lens pen dot com site says how does this work? The cleaning tip surface is covered like Was mentioned in that tip with a special invisible carbon compound that removes the fingerprint oils This is not high tech. This is old tech many years ago Our grandmothers often used newspapers to clean the windows and mirrors in their house Why did that work so well? Newspapers are good printers ink which adds carbon molecules and has the unique ability to absorb oils Interesting, you know, I've always used newspaper to instead of paper towels when I clean windows Use windows and newspaper, but it never occurred to me that that it was to printers. Yeah Yeah, my grandmother taught me that too. She would come visit and she'd clean our windows and she always used newspaper That gets the dirt and oils off. I guess because of the carbon There you go. That's a quick tip Oh, that's like I mean like if if anything deserves the magical bell, it's your respective grandmother's like that's it. Wow. I love it. Wow That's awesome. I love that again that, you know, I've just always done. I've always used newspaper to clean windows Of course, it's Amazing Amazing you learned it. You just knew it. You just knew it, right? Well, that's that's the ultimate quick tip right there Right. Yeah, that's it. Wow all right Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna share Doug's cool stuff down here because it's so cool and I've been been keeping it In our hopper for far too long we were talking about widgets and in our discord channel And I think we even had the conversation here one of the things Someone wanted was a widget that showed the name of the current wi-fi network Which they wanted to make sure that they weren't Attached to you know, their their network I think they had two different ssids in their house and they wanted to make sure on their on their iphone That they knew which network they were attached to at any given important time But this could be handy no matter where you are I you know, there are times Often where I'm out and about and it's like I'm on wi-fi which network am I on like is this something I want to be on or Is this that slow as molasses network that I've learned to hate but I use sometimes anyway and uh There is no way in apple's widgets to do that But thankfully our n dug in our discord Hipped us to the existence of wedgie wid gy and this is a Widget app. I looked in widget smith because that's kind of the defaults like Super powerful widget app doesn't have any of these features widget wedgie does There was a there is a stock widget in wedgie That shows you Your wi-fi and cellular speeds and bandwidth used in real time, which is cool Uh, but it does not by default show you the name of the wi-fi network It was very easy for me to take, you know 90 seconds and edit a copy of their stock wi-fi widget and add You know current wi-fi network ssid to it and you get to lay it out and it's got like a grid thing And you just put it where you want and then the widget exists and I added the widget and i'm good to go And it still is there on my phone now wedgie is freemium So you get to create one widget With it that you can use for free and then if you want to have multiple widgets Well, that's what you pay for and that makes perfect sense to me And I think it was I don't know eight bucks or something like that But uh, but yeah, it's uh, it's it's a cool little thing So I was stoked to find out about all these little widget apps now I'm gonna have to like spend a saturday afternoon and rethink my entire world of widgets. So Thank you for that r and dug Uh, do we have anything else for today or are we we're we're at a minute to one a minute an hour 20 papa In the discord chat says you can press the wi-fi icon and it shows you the network you're on That is true Yes, and and that also came up in this other discussion. You're right You can go to the control center long press the wi-fi icon and it will show you the name It for multiple steps. Yeah multiple steps. Yeah, exactly Whoever whoever brought this up in the discord wanted just a quick at a glance way And so it was like, well, let's see if that if that exists if it doesn't you're totally right Like it's it is right there at your fingertips This is there if you just even want to glance at it, which is which is what he was looking for So hand here. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So the other thing I want to mention from the earlier newspaper Newsprint thing. Yeah, if it wasn't obvious do not clean your vision pro lenses with newspaper Thank you for saying that. Yes It's not the same as the lens pen the lens pen is specifically designed for like delicate lenses Newsprint your your windows in your house are much more durable Yeah, you know, yeah And less important if there's micro scratches in them too. Yeah. Yeah fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right. Thanks for hanging out with us Bandwidth gods in Hong Kong. Thank you for keeping Pete's bandwidth as solid as you did for our episode here Yeah, it's amazing. I'm standing. Thanks for hanging out with us folks. Thanks to cash fly. Oh, yeah, go ahead Pete. Yeah I was gonna say what I want you to share the show some you haven't mentioned in a while Dave Give us a review mackey gab comm slash review. Go there and give us five stars. Won't you please? Thank you. Thank you for that. I think I think the bandwidth gods have Pete about a one's a full Thousand millisecond delay from the rest of us, but it's okay. That's that's where that little Pick up just happened there, but it's all good. We're fine. 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