 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, Sal, Justin, and I, we get into some conversations. We have some fun. We have great conversations, Adam. In the beginning. Hijacked, Sal. Keep going. The first thing that we cover is the possible health benefits of urine. Love that urine. Find out if you should drink your pee. More nugget bombs from over here, everybody. Right. Peepee sprinkles. Then we move over into Uber's self-driving car fatality. Finally, Uber's killing people. The machines are attacking. And then, of course, we go and mention our sponsor health icon. Listen, if you're going to die, make sure you guys cover your family. Get insured. You can go to healthicue.com forward slash mind pump. Make sure you guys fill out the quiz. Find out how good this insurance is for you. Take care of your family for goodness sakes. Right. Don't you love them? Or live forever. Show them you love them. And then we move over into Facebook's data scandal. Find out what information Facebook has given away. Scandaloso. And then Justin drops some knowledge on the platypus, the duckbill platypus, and the milk in its possible antibiotic properties. That's it. Right? Got to milk those platypie. Love that puss milk. Is it platypie? Platypussies? I don't know. Something like that. Speaking of pussies, then we move over into male birth control pill. Right, Joe? That is a great transition, Adam. I want to stop getting people pregnant. They get new male birth control pills. I'll head it back over to Sal. I just wanted to hijack his intro. That was amazing, Adam. That was really good, actually. I did a good job in interjecting. You almost did it. Right, right. Then we get into the questions. The first question was there was a study that I brought up on Insta Story, on my Insta Story, that shows how artificial sweeteners can contribute to fat gain and insulin resistance. Now, what do we think? Do we think that sugar is better than artificial sweetener? Or should you stick to artificial sweeteners instead of sugar? If you had to pick one, which one would you pick? By the way, we also talk about Organifi in this. Organifi, of course, the makers of the extremely popular gold juice, anti-inflammatory, nice, relaxing, delicious gold juice you can find at organifyshop.com. By the way, enter the code MindPump. You'll get a fat discount. The next question was besides slow negatives and unilateral work, what are some tips and techniques that we have that can teach you how to improve your mind to muscle connection? That's when you connect to your muscles through the power of your mind. Connection, connection. The next question was, do you prime your whole body before a workout, or focus on what you're gonna train first and then prime the next section of your body before you continue training? How does priming work? Why is it so important? And why don't you own Maps Prime yet? You moron, go to mindpumpmedia.com. I, Optimus Prime. Maps Prime, especially if you're a personal trainer. Get the prime. It's a money-back guarantee. Get the prime bundle. And finally, the last question, what are the biggest misconceptions that fans have about us that aren't true? For example, Adam has a big penis. A lot of people think that's true. I mean, we know that to be false. We did not get into that. Yeah, yeah. Lots of misconceptions. Misconceptions. You're gonna talk about a bunch of people that are waiting for that. Man. Yeah. In this episode. Also, look, this month, you can get access to our forum, our private forum. It's exclusive. Adam, Justin, and I are on there all the time. 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Or if you wanna work out without equipment at home or on the road, that's Maps anywhere. And finally, if you wanna learn how to correct imbalances, promote better movement, or you're a personal trainer and you want a tool that you can use on your clients that's gonna pay you back dividends, well, that's the Maps Prime Bundle. Get all of that or any of that at mindpumpmedia.com. God damn it, Doug. Literally, we just revealed. He gets one a year, he got one last year, this is his one, that's a long night. It's the beginning of the year, Doug, that's a lot of pressure that go the rest of the way. Can we call these the Doug-Agans? No, it doesn't work. No, it doesn't work, try it again. Dull-Agans? Like a ball again? Yeah, it's like a ball again. What's it like? Apocalypse Doug, Doug-Op-Pocalypse. Apocalypse? Something like that? It's more like a ball again. Justin's on the right track there, it's just like, it's a hiccup. We give him a few, you know what I mean? It's a Doug-Op. A Doug-Op? A Doug-Op. I'm gonna re-drum this energy. No, so what happened was, he says, oh guys, we're on, so we start talking. I literally reveal the secret to fat loss you raised. I can't share it again, sorry guys. Don't even remember that. That was too hard to recreate. It came out, it can't come back. Now you gotta tell the audience your piss story. Oh my God, I'll share it again. So I go to the bathroom and the landlord, the guy that owns the building or whatever, nice guy. He's a cool guy. I'm cute. So he, he's, I don't know this, but he's in the hallway in front of the door of the bathroom so he can kind of see me and he's waiting for me to finish. Let's just describe our bathroom, just like, it's always open, like how awkward is that when you're in there taking a dump or peeing or whatever? It's like, you feel so exposed to the world. Yeah, they can see your feet. Yeah, for sure. It's like, come on. So, and you can tell too, I don't know if you guys ever noticed when you watch someone's feet when they're pooping, if they're flat-footed and then they go up on their toes a little bit, they're wiping. Stop, dude. I didn't want to think. Do you actually watch this? Well, think about it, because they're raised. Well, some people, or maybe they were just pushing harder. No, some people, some people wipe while they're, while they're still seated. I think it's, I think they're putting one. You see it up in L or up in pivot. Yeah, it's an up in turn because you have to expose the cheek and whole area. Anyway, right. Anyway, that's not part of the story. So I'm in there peeing. So he sees my back, the doors open because whatever I'm peeing cares. And I pee, you know, pull my pants up, turn around to walk out without washing my hands. Sorry, ever since years ago. By the way, I learned this from Adam. Yeah, you watch ahead of time. This is a true story. I don't want to get a dirty head. Years ago, in old school mind pump days, Adam went to the bathroom and walked out and washed his hands. So I called him out on the show. I'm like, dude, you don't wash your hands when you take a pee? Yeah. He's like, no, he goes, my dick is clean. He goes, I wash my hands before I pee. And then I was like, mind blown. Whoa. I think we've all applied that sense. Yeah. When Adam died, if you died before me, Adam, I'm going to say that you're, I'm going to be like, Adam taught me something. This is the most brilliant piece of knowledge I've ever passed on. So anyway, I didn't wash my hands after I peed because like Adam said, dick is clean. It's in my pants, not doing anything, right? At least not now. So I turn around and I see the landlord. So I go to shake his hand like, hey, what's up man? And he reaches out to shake my hand and as his hands coming towards me, I could tell it's registering his head like this guy didn't wash his hands. So his hand, as he's coming out, it curls and bends into a stump. So if he hides his hand, Oh, he stumped you. And he points, but he doesn't stop to shake. He just curls his wrist like somebody who's having a terrible seizure. Right? Right? And he does, so I just grab his little stump and I walk in here. Makes like for the most awkward exchange ever. Most awkward thing ever. I think it's more awkward for him than you though. I think it's, you know what I'm saying? So I was telling somebody this the other day that I got caught, every time I get caught and there's somebody calls me out, I explain to them like, oh my dick's the cleanest part of my body. Why would I wash my hands after I touch that? That makes no sense to me. You don't wash your hands every time you have to touch your face. Your face is dirtier than your hands are after you touch your clean dick. And you have a dirty face. Well, and they go, well, what if you shake it and it drips on you? Well, I'm not disgusting. I wash my hands then asshole, but 90% of the time I'm out. I'm good, I'm good. I don't know what to do. But even to take it a step further, we're just speaking objective science now. Okay, so I'm not saying this is what I do, but this is objective science. Unless you have a urinary tract infection, P is sterile. It's void of- People drink it. Bacteria, so. Even if you were to pee on yourself. Wow, what happened Justin? I just know that. People drink their own pee? Yeah man. Why? I think there's some wacky people out there that have ideas that it's like healthy. To drink your own pee. Well, isn't there something to do with the, if you get stung by a jellyfish, you're supposed to piss on yourself? We should look that up Doug. It's like, I know you're supposed to piss on yourself if you get stung by a jellyfish. Well, I know that, I know that, but I don't know about every thing. Because it's clean water, it's sterile, that's what it is, right? Or is there something special in your end that fights the steam? Dude, you're the science guy. Justin, I just work here. Listen, I don't pee on jellyfish things. I just know like hippie ideas, and this is one of those hippie ideas I saw on like some taboo like show where they're showing some people's habits and they justify it. I saw on, what's it called? What's the man where he does the survival guy? Yes, yes, yes, what's his name? Fuck, I don't know. You know who it is? Bear Grylls? Yes, Bear Grylls. I saw Bear Grylls drink his piss. Yeah, because he had to. Well, he had to, he was like, yeah, survival. It's called Euro therapy. Thank you. Yeah, it's an alternative therapy said to cure everything from cancer to acne. Cancer to acne, I'm telling you. They make all these wacky claims. These are the same people that will anima just for everything. You know, like, oh, this is like out of cold. This is like when it pops up in my ass. This is like when a collection of like three old retired doctors get together and they're like, hey, I have some hella funny. Let's put this out. We'll back it up with a little bit of science and she's like, that will get a hold of me. This doesn't work. Let's do the breathyterian thing. I think it's just a fucking joke. No, I think what it is, it will do this shit. You know what's funny? Doug, you shopping for vacuums again? Yeah, I know. It's ads are coming up. If I find any science supporting this, it's gonna be hilarious, right? Yeah. Here's what I think it is. This is what I think, okay? So I'm gonna use another story to illustrate what's happening here with people drinking their own pee or at least promoting that you drink your own pee. So there's documentaries that are out there that really try hard to sell you on the supposed fact. It's not. That eating animal meat is so bad for you that you need to be vegan. Now, that's false. Now, the reason why that's promoted is because there's an ulterior motive. It's people who wanna save animals. They don't want anybody to eat animals. So they make up a story and says, animal protein's bad for you, okay? Here's what's happening with this. There's a lot of people like golden showers. And I think what they're trying to do is close other people to drink their pee. Like it's good for you. You know what I'm saying? So you think that's who's the one to put the story out? Oh my God. Who's making up the story? Speaking of stories, you guys hear about the little Uber incident the other day. Somebody got first person. We don't know the details. Well, we know that somebody got hit by a car. We don't know if it was the pedestrian's fault. Doesn't matter. It was inevitable, right? It was inevitable at one point this would happen. We knew there'd be casualties. This was like two days ago, right? Yeah, just now. So two days ago, a self-driving Uber kills someone, we don't know the details. Do you know what else happened two days ago? What? Millions of people were hit by cars. Yeah, oh yeah. With other people's drivers. So it's all relaxed. Wait a minute. It's all relaxed. How many? Not worldwide, I don't think it's millions, but it's definitely more than one. Yeah. I bet you at that exact moment, something like 1,000 people got hit by cars, by people too, you know? Right, right. So that's, everybody needs to fucking relax, okay? A shark could, it just ate somebody. Yeah, everybody calmed down. That was my response to everybody that sent it to me. They're like, oh, check this out. Look what happened. I'm like, well, I mean, I thought that was inevitable was gonna happen. As soon as we started testing these things, it was gonna, someone was eventually gonna get hit. I mean, come on. We have idiots that hit each other that are driving their own vehicles. I will say this. If you're, ooh, I didn't even think of this. Cause there's people that are out there that literally try to get hit by cars so they can collect insurance money or sue a rich person. Dude. Fuck me. Uber's rich as hell. Yeah. You can't tell me there aren't gonna people like, oh no, I felt, you've seen that. You've seen that on those cams. You know, on the dashboard cam, you see people just jump into cars. Well, I think, it's fucking crazy. No doubt when they do these automated vehicles in the future, whether the current models have or not, but for sure when they have to think about that liability reason, so there will be cameras around everywhere on that car. Totally. And if some asshole jumps out of it, out of a sidewalk and jumps in the car, you're just gonna look like an asshole. You get a broken leg and they're in court. They're like, sorry, sir, that doesn't, they push their kid out. Oh shit. Oh man. Two birds with one stone. That's a terrible idea. Yeah, no. There's people that actually do that. They actually like try to get hurt, which I think is just. It's mind boggling. You're a slime ball. Yeah. Did I ever tell you when I saw that happen in the grocery store? No. So I was at the grocery store, I was young too. I was thinking I was like 14. And there was a sign that said like, what did it say? Slippery when wet. Yeah, it said in Spanish. Piso mojado or something like that. I don't know, I don't hope I'm saying it right. Anyway, this lady. It sounded like a burrito order you just did. It did. I don't think that was, it's slippery. It's not. It's not delicious. What am I trying to say? I'm gonna look it up, make sure I'm right. But anyway, the lady walked by and she saw the sign. She walked back around, walked by again and had the fakest fall I've ever seen in my life. Oh yeah. You ever see a comedian? She'd be like, oh. Yeah, she like, she like. And all like slow and awkward. No, no, no, no. She basically like squatted down and then like fell back. Lean to the side. Yeah, and I remember telling my mom, I'm like that lady didn't fall unless she passed out slowly. She literally stopped and she like sat down and like, ah, legs up and hands up in the air. Oh, God. You know what I wish? I wish. I wish that with somebody. Right there, there's your. See, told you. Piso si esta mojado. Yeah, you're close. I don't know. That's a real close. I was right, dude. Everybody calm down. I know Spanish. I managed to 24. Because you got one of the words. So I'm on it. So yeah, she I wish like, you know, people think karma means like you get what's coming at. That's not how karma works. But I wish it was. I wish someone who pretended to fall fell down for real the next day and hurt themselves. That'd be cool. That's fucked up, bro. Why? Don't you think that would be cool? What do you know what? How do we know it's not like some that's like your this is their last resort, right? Like this is the primal instinct to survive. Oh, man, it made me feel bad. That's it. They have shits to feed. Right, they have kids to feed everything. They're like, you know what? I'm going to sacrifice my whole body to get some money for my kids. And I'm going down. At least they'll have a good life. Speaking of your children, we're supposed to do a mention here for Health IQ. Good idea to get life insurance if you have kids. In case you try to do one of these spills and you go down that route, right? Go this route, right? Yeah, let's get insured. Leave your money, your family, excuse me, with money and not with bills if you die. Yeah, and if you're going to attempt one of these slippery when wet caution signs and falling and then hurting yourself, make sure you get your life insurance first. Damn. Well, yeah, we don't condone that. No, not at all, man. Have you guys been getting, I haven't got anybody that's taken the test lately to see how they've done. When we first did that, the very first Health IQ commercial, we kind of put it out there. And there was a ton of... There was a few people that surpassed, you know, the numbers you guys were putting. Oh, our numbers? Yeah. I wasn't trying. I think they studied like that. I made it realistic so people could pass it. Doug beat us too. Yeah, it was too high. Yeah, that would just be a deterrent. You know what it is? Can I tell you what happened? The questions I got wrong. South copy me. Health IQ got them wrong. He's copying me. I got them right. So it's actually, I got 100%. Health IQ is the one that got 97%. Their test is almost 100%. You got to fix your fitness information. Health IQ. Just kidding. No, I don't remember what it was. Did you guys see what happened with Facebook? $36 billion fucking hit. Wow. Yeah, what was that all about? So they have this, I think some of their shit was mined, right? I think that's what the verbiage they use. So... I know the story. Oh, you do know that? Yeah. Oh, really, this just happened, right? Yeah. I'm going to read it to you guys because there's a lot of info on this. Facebook stock took a beating yesterday falling nearly 7%, which was a $36 billion hit. Market cap following 50 million user debt, a 50 million user data scandal. So supposedly somebody, some company was mining out this information so they can use this for like their political agenda and marketing reasons. And so that information, now it not only did Facebook take a hit, but then Google shares went down 4%. Amazon went down 2.4 and Apple dropped. Trust in the system. So what happened was there's this company UK-based company that does... The Cambridge Analytical. Yeah, and they do political campaigns for people. Right, PsyOps. Yeah, and they said that... And the way they sold themselves and they helped Ted Cruz get elected and someone else, right? So they were effective. And what they said is, hey, we got this special sauce where we can figure out the psychology of the people you're trying to sway and we can advertise to them better. And by the way, this is not new. This is fucking politics, okay? Right. Let me just be clear. The last presidential election surpassed a billion dollars to get either Trump or Hillary elected. So that's a lot of fucking money in a short period of time. So don't think for a second that they're not spending at least hundreds of millions of dollars, if not most of that money, on figuring out how to convince people to vote for their person in all ways possible. So they've been... Politics is a great way to understand human psychology. If you see the way politicians talk to people and whatever, that's all planned and structured and because they understand human psychology because there's a market for it for them, right? So anyway, this company, what they did was, is they created this app that you downloaded on Facebook. Now when you got the app through Facebook, through the app, they got all your information. They were able to get all your Facebook information, your likes, your friends or whatever, which is against Facebook policy. You're not supposed to be able to do that. So Facebook found out, apparently, this is the story right now, and this company said, oh, we didn't know that we did it or that we didn't know that this was wrong. We deleted all of it and we're not using it. We didn't use it, we deleted it all. It doesn't even matter now, they have the information. Evidence is coming out that they didn't delete it all and they use it all. So really, it's not that it's shady in the sense that this is what they've been doing forever. It's shady in the sense that they went around Facebook's policy or they broke Facebook's policy and were able to easily do it and mine all this information. Now here's what you need to know and this is why it's scary. This is why I have a thing with Facebook. It is voluntary, so you are voluntarily doing your own shit and stuff. So it's not forced and I get that. But if Facebook were a country, first and foremost, it'd be one of the most populous countries in the world. How many billion users do they have now? A few, yes. It's over a billion for sure, right? Yeah, I think it's over two. So it's one of the most populous countries in the world and by far, nobody comes close, not any space, no spy agency in the world. It has as much information as Facebook does. Not the CIA, the KGB, not the Chinese Communist government. 2.2. No, but 2.2 billion. Nobody in the world is as informed in detail as Facebook is of their population. So of their 2.2 billion people, they know more about you than anybody by far. And it's all voluntary, it's all by what you read, how long you read, what you click, what you like, what you post. What you share, all that stuff. What you share, everything. So that being said, if another company can go in there or the government can go in there, that's a lot of power to know how to fuck with you. It's a lot of power. Well, it's less about fucking in it. What it is is they now know how to market specifically to these people, right? Like so they know their hot buttons. Like if you're somebody who reads all these papers that are on a specific topic, I know that's a hot spot for you. And so they can now, they can start to spotlight these specific groups of people that they want to market and target a certain way to influence them towards their campaign and or to sell you something. I mean, that's what we're seeing right now. I mean, it blows my mind the way stuff follows you around now, like with all the social media platforms. Like if you've liked something on Instagram and on Facebook and on the- What's the reason why it was engineered? It's like, it's silly to me that people think it was like, the infrastructure of it was just for user interaction. You know, like, oh, cool. Like this is where I can talk to my friends. Thank you Facebook for creating such a cool platform for me. You're not gonna use this information at all. Like, yeah, right, dude. Of course, like they're getting all your likes. They're getting all your interactions. They're getting people that are loosely affiliated with, you know, that network. It's just like this inter-tangled sort of like connection. Like they're getting every single data point they possibly could. That's why it's so powerful. Like over even Google, Google just gets search terms. They get like things- Yeah, they don't have nearly as much. Not even close, dude. This is on a personal level. So it is very interesting to see where Facebook goes because it's like, you know, it was the NSA was already tapping into this shit, you know, for since day one. Yeah, you know, and everybody's pissed off that, you know, some politicians had information to sway. There's no force, by the way, but to sway users, nobody's angry that the NSA steals this shit all the time and has the power to throw your ass in jail forever. Right. I'm interested to see what's gonna happen when, like right now it's kind of the Wild Well West with Facebook and everybody that used to do like Google words and shit in the past have now moved over to Facebook because the, you know, sense per click when it's costing, it's so much cheaper and it's more active. Oh, they took all that business out of Google. Oh, they just, oh, they swooped it up real quick. So what I'm wondering is when it becomes the most dominant platform for marketing and advertising, like, what are we gonna see prices look like? I mean, what do you- To advertise on them? Think about it, it's gonna be more powerful than, you know, advertising on the Super Bowl. You know, the Super Bowl is so amazing because you have X amount of people that are watching that on television on the table. Guess what? But all you know about all those people is that they like to watch football. Exactly, right? So you market chips, beer, and hopes at- And it's habitual, so you know when they're actually gonna be on Facebook. You know what I mean versus Google, it's like it's random, like you're randomly looking for some shit. It's like, they know that, like as many times as you look on it and what time of day you look on it, like all that shit, I think it's gonna become so specific, like let's use our business, for example. Like let's say over the course of the next couple years, we now have five years of data on our own clientele, our own customer base, and we see exactly what the, you know, 80% of what the age group is, the things that they're into, the things they don't like, everything from their political stances to their open-mindedness to the- What time they wake up in the morning? Yeah, everything. And that we've honed in on that, like we know our avatar so well. Then we can go to Facebook and say, okay, find us all these, I mean, fitting it to a T. These are the people that tend to buy this thing, create that or whatever. And then that's exactly what it does. Yeah, that's so- So do you guys remember the movie X Machina? Yeah. Okay. Great movie. Right, and that movie's about this AI robot that is super human-like and extremely intelligent and incredible movie, right? Great twist at the end, but there's a part where the guy figures out that this robot is like, this robot's kind of like, he's developing this connection with this female robot and he realized that in order to create the body and face for this robot, for him to be so strongly attracted to her, that they mined this guy's porn searches and they knew exactly the kind of girl that he'd be most attracted to. And he got pissed off, he's like, fuck, you were like looking through. And I was thinking about that, I'm like, you know what? Of course they're doing that. Dude, think about that. Do you know how long the CIA, fuck, during the Cold War, you know, the CIA and KGB would always try to fuck with other people through prostitutes and stuff all the time. And for sure they try to pick the right perfect girl. Bro, I remember when I was talking about them sex dolls, the sex dolls the other day, how crazy they look. Imagine this, imagine if you could take all my data of every, like, you know, what she was built like, what she was shaped like, what her face looked like, everything. And then all of a sudden you have to take this, all of them combined, like, built into a section. And then it's advertising. And then it's popping up in your feed. Fast forward, you know, when technology gets really good, they can also make the personality exactly that, you know, the kind of personality. That's what I'm saying, you have all this information of the stuff that you're reading that you're like, that you're into, and she's gonna be all of the same stuff. Humans are gonna have sex with each other. They're not gonna, humans are not gonna bang each other anymore. That's what's gonna happen in the future. That or we just, we do it for reproduction reasons only. You're not gonna have sex to do it. Well, even then they'll just harvest it. Yeah, you'll bang the robot. You'll bang the robot, it'll have this little tube. Oh, it'll be built in. It'll have a little tube, and it's like a sperm deposit. Yeah, you sell it. And then, yeah, either that or the robot itself stores it to- It's like milking you. Deposits it to an artificial womb, and then babies grow on the womb, and then people just live this life of the- Oh, wow, yeah. Creepy. That's even weird. It's gonna be creepy. That's even more weird than the Matrix. Can you imagine that? Some woman's at home with her husband, and she's like, ugh. She's like, ugh, you're an asshole. You smell. Yeah, fuck, you know? And then she can't wait for me home. Where's my kindle? Yeah, she can't wait for you to go home. It seems like it would be one of those things that I think a lot of people would adopt and love it at first, but then it reminds me of the story you just recently told of the heaven and hell of getting everything you want, right? Having this robot who, as all the things you like, but then there's no adversity, she never- There's no flaws. Right, there's no flaws, she never talks back, there's never an issue. Maybe they program her too. Maybe they program her to be a little fucking- A little feisty. Yeah, like, hey, you're watching too much TV over there. Slaps you. Like, you bitch. I wish I had a transition for this, but I don't. It's, you guys are familiar with platypus? The animal? The animal. Yeah, you know how weird that thing is? Very strange. There's your transition right there. Yeah. We're talking weird shit. So this is really weird, right? So- He's all speaking of puss. Yeah. Have you guys heard of puss, man? He could have puss, man. Platy. That would have been a money transition. Add a little platypus. That would have been a money transition. Damn, I missed out on that one. So it lays eggs and it also creates milk, which, you know, so it's like got like these mammal characteristics too, but also like lays eggs, right? So it's very interesting. So they actually are finding that this might, like the bacteria, the antibacterial properties that the milk produces, like they might actually be able to use that, you know, as far as like getting advancements from that. From antibiotics? Yeah, for like antibiotics. Platypus milk? Platypus milk. What is so unique about that again? Because it has- Well, what's unique about the animals is it seems to be like different animals combined. Yeah, there's a weird kind of a protein that they've found this like unique like protein that's like all spiraled, that has very unique characteristics and properties to it that they're studying right now. It's an Australian animal. They have all the weird animals in Australia, by the way. It's like, yeah. So they're like, of course, something weird out of this. You know, they're, so anyway, they're studying the milk right now to find, you know, new ways to approach antibiotics. Have we found anything yet? I mean, is there any like- They said that there's promising leads. Yeah, in that direction, but it's just weird. Wow, I'm reading it right now. Science Alert. The milk of Australia's weirdest animal could help us fight antibiotic resistance. So apparently there's something in there, their milk that's got antimicrobial protection that they're trying to look at and say, okay, why is this so effective against bacteria and how come bacteria haven't evolved to overcome it? Interesting. Yeah. Platypus milk. You know, that's the worst, that could be the worst thing that happens- Can you imagine drinking that? Platypus. Yeah, poor platypus. What if it's all good, dude? I don't know, maybe it is. Probably. It doesn't even have teats. I don't know if I've ever seen one before. I'm trying to think if I've seen one at a zoo before. Have you guys seen one before? In a platypus? Yeah. I think I saw one at- Is there a difference between, is it a duck-billed platypus and then a platypus or the same thing? That's a good question. Are they? That's a good question. I have no idea. Oh, look how cute they are when they're little. You know what the fuck? You see that squirrel with a cat face? That's a Photoshop item. Did you see that? Good Photoshop. Yeah, you know, antibiotic resistance is scary. I don't think people realize that, and this is by scientists are calling this a potential catastrophic- It's a big problem in looming problem. Like a catastrophic epidemic. What is, say that again? Antibiotic resistance. Yeah. I mean, when did it get really popular and when did we really start taking them like crazy? I mean, we've been taking them like crazy for decades now. That's what I mean, when? That's what I'm asking you. Like, is it fucking 20 years ago, 40 years ago, 60? It wasn't more than 50 years ago. Penicillin was, when was penicillin invented in 1940? 40s? Something maybe Doug can find out. So we've been using antibiotics for decades for a long time. Which actually, it's not a long time. It's not a very long time to see all the adverse effects. I think we're just now starting to see a lot of the bullshit from it. That was my point of asking you that. If it's something that's only been around since- Oh, 1928. Ooh. 1928. Yeah, so, but antibiotics, I think it was just an inject. That's when he discovered it. When it was turning to actual medicine might have been a little bit later, but nonetheless. Oh yeah, you're right. So, I'll leave it in 1942. 1942, the first patent. Boom, bitch. Oh yeah. You thought I was wrong for a second. I believed in you. Here's the thing, bacteria evolve very quickly. So you're right, it's not a long time, but for bacteria, that's enough time. Bacteria evolve fast because they multiply. So the faster that something can multiply and die, theoretically, the faster it can mutate or it can evolve. And so think about it this way. You have an antibiotic that kills most of a bacteria. Cause when you take an antibiotic, it doesn't kill all the bacteria. It kills most of it, and then your immune system tends to do the rest. But those bacteria that survive are the stronger ones. They reproduce and so on and so forth. So over the course of decades, antibiotics, we've had to phase some out and introduce new ones and new methods because bacteria just stop responding to them. Now, we're running out of antibiotics. We're literally running out of antibiotics where we have no answers. People are dying right now of staff infections that we have no, we have no- Cause the antibiotics don't work. Nothing, nothing that we have. Nothing that we have works. So you're in the hospital, you got fucking staff infection to have to cut your leg off because we're like, we can't. That's crazy. Yeah, we can't kill it. Or if it travels up in June. Now is that just for some cases or is this in general? What do you mean? Like not all staff infections are turning into an amputee, right? No, some strains, some types. Some types of- Is it more the type of the infection or is it more that this person is already taking so much antibiotics? It's not the person, it's just the bacteria now. So, and we're seeing this much more and more and more and this is the result of us just over using antibiotics in our food, in our feed, in our animals. And so this, and people don't talk about this. When we talk about like, oh, how is a human race gonna end? Asteroid, nuclear war. This is up there. Yeah. Maybe that end, but you wanna talk about like a- Like a super virus or something. Well, not a virus. Not even bacteria. Yeah, like the bubonic plague killed fully one third of the known world or the world that was infected. One third, imagine that. Imagine right now of everybody you know, one third of them dead because of an infection. Well, you know, we could be headed down that path if we don't figure this out. And so what they're doing is they're looking at all these natural antimicrobial compounds. One of them, what you said, Justin, which I didn't know was platypus milk. Another one is cannabinoids. Yeah, cannabinoids have been shown to be effective. And I can't remember which one. It might be cannibochromine. I'm not sure which cannabinoid, but it's one of the cannabinoids found in marijuana. One of them has been shown to be effective against antibiotic-resistant staff, right? So this could be a huge thing. That's great, yeah. One of the reasons why I invested in marijuana stocks back in the day. What was, I remember a while back, there was some article about cockroach milk. What was that, the properties? I thought that was a joke. Okay. You brought that one to the table I think. Did you? No, I don't think so. I think you said something about milk and a cockroach. I could have sworn. Well, yeah, because I thought it was ridiculous, but it was actually a real article. Science brings us good stuff. Here's another thing. Here's another thing science is bringing us in 2018. A male birth control pill has shown promise in early human trials. Good, good, I don't want to fix that work. I don't want to do that. How do you think it works, dude? Let's just take a... Can you guys take a guess? Like without killing your boner? No, it doesn't kill the boner, but it kills the sperm, I'm sure, before it even leaves you. Well, it's a pill that would make your body stop making sperm, right? What makes you stop making sperm? So am I gonna shoot blanks? Am I testosterone, lower testosterone? You stop your body's production of sperm and testosterone. That's a stupid idea. Why would you ever want to do that? Well, this is the fucking... This is the male, everybody's like, oh my God, it's a new discovery. No, it's not, bitch. We know him for a long time. You take testosterone, you stop making sperm. So the pill is a testosterone and progestin pill. They call it dimethandrolone. Dimethandrolone, sounds like a cool steroid, right? I don't see it. It sounds like hardcore, some T-ball right there. So people taking this, it suppressed their... And of course, some of the side effects include increased mood and sex drive. Duh, you're giving them steroids, some shits. So they're not producing sperms anymore. And the study was a month long, which is not going to be a longer one than that. What do you guys think about that? What do you think about a male? Just give people steroids. I mean, I like the idea if we could come up with something that didn't require us actually going in and snipping away at us. I think that would be cool, but I can't imagine what you would do without either one killing it or stopping the production of testosterone. So I have no idea. Maybe it's something you could take that would neutralize it, maybe? I don't know. You know, here's... I don't know how that would work. Here's the thing. Women have been taking birth control for a long time, right? In masses since the... At least since the 70s, probably since the 60s, right? And it's part of the sexual revolution. It's part of the women's movement. It liberated women from the... I hate to say burden because it's not a burden, but it can be, right? Of the responsibility of bearing a child. And it changed things a lot, gave women a lot of power over their own bodies because before that, if they got pregnant, it was like, oh my God, it could really be just their problem, especially if the guy decides to fuck off or whatever. So, but what we don't, like, birth control is hormones. And when you take hormones, first off, hormones are signals in your body. Whenever a hormones tell your body to do certain things. So you're taking hormones, which means you're sending a signal to your body and your body adapts to that hormone by reducing or changing its production of its own hormones. So when women go off birth control, and more and more people are talking about this, this was a little taboo to say, a years ago because it was so tightly tangled with the feminist movement that if you said, hey, taking birth control might be bad for you, you get hammered because they were like, fuck you, I'm gonna take it, whatever. But the reality is, first off, you should have it, it's your choice, it's your body, do whatever you want to it. But number two, birth control fucks with your hormones. You go off birth control, you could talk to lots of women. Many of them, it takes a long time to get back to normal. Some of them never do. Most of them do, but some of them never do. And there are risks associated with birth control because it's a hormone. Same thing with men, you give men testosterone, fuck man, if men are taking, if they're gonna take this, think about it this way, when do girls start taking birth control typically? 16 years old? Yeah, or like 18, 19, 20, right? I don't know about that. That's probably the average. I don't know, Doug, maybe you can look up. Most girls in high school probably start taking birth control. Can you look up average age that women take birth control, start taking birth control? My guess would be 16. I'm sure it's younger now. 16, 17. I don't think that's the average. I think the average is probably higher, but there are a lot of girls, 16, 17. I don't wanna say at least 18, but yeah. So let's say you're a, fine. So let's say 18, right? Let's say a bunch of guys, let's say men now, or they have this option, take a birth control pill because they're having sex. So all these guys are gonna take pills that shut, or lower their testosterone so that they don't make sperm from the age of 18. Yeah. What do you think's gonna happen when they go off that pill, when they wanna start a family and they're 27 or 30 years old, like, okay, I'm gonna go up birth control now. Your body's not gonna make testosterone again. Or you're gonna be, you're gonna have a year of depression. What are they saying though? Are they saying that it's a safer bet than for men? It hasn't passed all the trials yet. Yeah, I mean, there's always side effects to these things. It's totally up to you. Of course, a side effect of unprotected sex is pregnancy for some people too. So, you know, that could end up pretty terribly, I think, for somebody. So... We just need like a little... I just think people... Like a little cap that goes on the head instead of that full, like a full car. It's a little cap that hugs it really well and then it has this... A little shower cap. Yeah, a little shower cap. There's a little one just right over it. So, and it has... You feel it on the rest of it. Right, and it has like the spermicide. So, as soon as it hits it, it's killed no matter what. And then it's just like right on its little smile. That won't... That technology's... Yes, that's... I agree with you, Justin. Your smiles? Yeah, it smiles. Yours does it. Huh? Bro, now. Mine's an eerie. That's a talk sometimes. I can make it talk. Yeah, a little tea. Justin, I'll piss it off. No, it's a... You know what? I mean, maybe I'm getting old, but fuck, man. Just teach... You gotta teach kids to be a little bit responsible. I don't know. Can't be responsible. Yeah, but now it's like... Work on them or don't have sex, you know? Unless you're... I don't want any more kids. And so now I'm like, I guess I might... The only thing I can do is go get it snipped. Yeah. Or just pull out. You don't do the pull-out method? Dude, I don't trust that method. It's a... You know what? I trust the method. I don't like it, though. There's nothing worse. I feel uncertain about that method. I've always thought my buddies that are like you that do that. I think it's so weird to me because the best part of the orgasm is being inside when you have that. Yeah, you're cutting yourself short. Yeah. If you do the pull-out method consistently and you're good at it... Yeah, it's safe. It's actually pretty good. Sure, it could be totally safe. It's actually not bad, you know? I think it can be. You'll still get an STD. So... Yes. You gotta, you know, I don't want to... I don't want to make sure I give the right advice. Get tested for that. I don't want some kid to listen to this, you know? Sal said, pull out. Oh, God. Bird, save us, please. Oh. Quo-o-o-o. Here you go, Landon. Quimera quo-o-o-o. Today's quo-o-o-o is being brought to you by Quimera coffee. It's the only coffee that is infused with all-natural nutropics for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused fuzz without the crash. Click the Quimera link at www.mindpumpmedia.com and input the discount code MindPumpaCheckOut for 10% off. It's the motherfucking quo-o-o-o. The eagle has landed. Qui-qua. First question is from Martus Breila. Based on the study Sal brought up on his Instastory, do you think that sugar could actually be less detrimental than artificial sweeteners including aspartame and sucralose? Do you think consuming sugar and moderation could be a better choice than artificial sweeteners for performance, health, and mentality? You picked this question? Let me, you know this is a perfect opportunity for me to address something I've been wanting to address anyways. This same question that word for word was sent to me in my DM. Oh well? Yeah and I already answered it. So my, I want to answer this for our audience but I also want to tell our audience right now it's inevitable at one point it'll be impossible for the three of us boys to be able to answer every single DM. Right now we take a lot of pride on making effort to do that and push really hard. What makes it harder is when somebody copies and paste a question and they send it to all three of us plus they do on the quaw because we're all trying to, we're trying to answer every single one of them so that's a question that now two other questions could have been answered from somebody else because you've sent it to all three of us. So just as a courtesy I would appreciate when you guys send questions. Quaw is always the first place like that is sandbagging. Right, right. It's just not, I mean it's kind of fucked up when you think about it when it's really hard for us to get to as many questions as it is and then if you do that all of us read those things. So you've now took up time of Justin, you've took up time of Sal, you took up time of me and then on top of this right here. And now you've taken up time on the portrait. Right, right. So I mean just be mindful that that's all I ask people. I know probably people do that and don't even think about. Think about there's probably fucking hundreds of other people that are trying to do the same thing too. So this question, I didn't even know you picked this question. I recognize this question too. I fucking literally answer this question. It's verbatim. No, absolutely. Natural sugar is going to be the better route 100% of the time. But even then you got to be careful because that will sneak up on you too. Like it doesn't take what's it what's a tablespoon of sugar amount to like makes the medicine go down. Sorry, Mary pop my bad. Nobody knows what that is on the podcast here. Except for my 40, you know, so it's the all the stuff that came out on artificial sweeteners. It used to be sold to us that it's a it's a healthier alternative for somebody who's trying to lose weight. It's a great way for them to have something that's calorie free or lower calories because it's artificially sweetened. But I'd say some right now, those things are addicting as fuck. I find myself more addicted to artificial sweeteners than I ever felt to real sugar. And it's just because they've they've made it super hyper palatable. And it's like 20 or 200 times more powerful and strong as sugar is so to your brain, it sends off this like, it's like, what would be better sweet? What would be better for you to have one or two cups of coffee or snorting a line of cocaine? It's like, it's that strong in comparison to regular sugar. And so you're way better off having real sugar artificial sweeteners are like cocaine. I did that post I did that post like two years ago. Oh yeah, man, the baby snorting a line of cocaine. Oh my God, I forgot you did that. Hell early in my days. Yeah, I was always doing edgy shit to get your attention. It was like a little baby. And there's like a there's a mirror and fucking cocaine in front of it. This equipping I attached some study to it about about artificial sweeteners and sugar. Like why don't you stop the baby instead of taking a picture of them doing drugs? Kind of a person are you watching the baby do cocaine? Dear you want to see what would happen? You know, here's the thing. I hate questions like this. I hate the which is better. Both suck questions like hey, what would you rather get kicked in the face or punched in the face? Like well, here's the thing. Context matters within with a question like this. And what I mean by that is, let's say the biggest health issue you have is being overweight. That's the biggest health detriment to you. And cutting or switching to artificial sweeteners means you're going to cut, you know, 400 calories of sugar out of your diet. Therefore, you lose weight and can it promote weight loss in that way? Yeah, I can. The side effect of that being better health because now you've lost weight. Does that mean that the artificial sweetener was better than the sugar in that context? Perhaps. Perhaps it does mean that. What if you're what if that doesn't make that big of a difference? What if instead of choosing either or you do neither? You know, I mean, we kind of are in the situation where people want their cake and they want to eat it too. So they're like, hey, I want all the effects of this super harmful, whatever, without any of the harmful, you know, whatever. And it's like, it doesn't always work that way, you know, avoid sugar, you avoid the calories, but now you're taking in artificial sweeteners. And we know that artificial sweeteners don't really affect the microbiome very well. We know that they can prop they can produce or promote internal gut inflammation, which down the road might not be a good idea. We know that artificial sweeteners also promote fat storage and, you know, epigenetic changes in your gut, which may later on the line down the line make you less healthy. We know some of that stuff. It's a little bit more controversial to say that but the science is starting to come out more and more in support of that. For me personally, I don't consume products that are highly processed that are sweet very often at all anyway. So when I do, which is rare, but when I do, I'll pick the sugar one, right? Just because it's not that often anyway. And I mean, if I had it every single day and I was really overweight, it would be done. I could see a benefit that maybe artificial sweeteners might be better. But again, context matters. And you know, here's the thing when it comes to, you know, I was I did an interview this morning. And one of the questions the guy asked me was, what one food like sets you off and into the frenzy of eating. And I used to understand that. But now it's a little bit different. Now the way I understand it is, you know, when you say to yourself, when you're something that you crave, and then you say to yourself like, I can't have that, you know, I can't have those gummy bears, I can't eat those. In reality, first off, you can obviously eat those. Nobody's forcing you but you. And what you're doing is you've you're acting like a child who another version of yourself is telling you can't do something. So you feel like you're being forced and so you say something like I can't. The reality is you don't want to eat those gummy bears. In fact, you don't want to eat them so bad that you created this dual side of yourself that is going to tell you what to do. And you're going to be the child that has to obey. And eventually you rebel and you give in. And this is why when you start eating it, you're like, yay, I'm giving it, I'm rebelling. And then you go nuts and you and you do a frenzy. For me personally, if I'm going to, if I eat something, it's because I wanted to. It's not any, it's no longer this, oh my God, I can't control myself. I understand now that I either want to or I don't. Now that doesn't mean I don't identify the fact that it tastes good, that I'm going to enjoy eating it, that it's going to be fun to eat. I know all that. But in spite of all that, at that moment, I still say to myself, yeah, I know it's going to taste good. I like the taste of it. But I don't want to eat it. So I don't. Or sometimes maybe it's worth it. And I say, I do want to eat it. And I do. When, when you get, when you start to understand that you start to, you start to eat these kinds of foods less and less, or at least they have less power over you, or at least they cause less stress. And then you don't have to come up with this like alternative like either or. Yeah, either or. It's just sometimes I eat it because I want to, because the circumstances are right. And I'll choose the real shit. Yeah, it's just sugar. Really, it just has no weight. You know, like I have to feel like this conversation with like artificial sugar or sugar and this about like, to me, it just has no real relevance in my diet. Like it's something that I'm like, yeah, I, I ate, you know, some cookies or it's like, I'm not, I'm not condemning myself for eating some cookies or I'm not, you know, like fixated on that. Like it's just, it's not something I focus on, you know, that therefore it's not appealing. And it's, I just feel like if you're in that state of mind where you're battling whether or not one's good versus the other, it's already that that's something that you need to kind of internalize and deal with and, and, you know, figure out why that's such an important part of your diet and why that's like incorporated in your lifestyle so frequently. Well, I can tell you all the people that I coach that for sure sugar is the number one culprit that I have to like teach people to, to pull back on. Yeah. Especially since a lot of people don't know. It's in everything to exactly. A lot of people don't realize that a lot of the foods that you consume that you would not think have sugar in it, have sugar in it. So you get, you know, all of a sudden you're daily. And I think, I think I want to say that the basic RDA for sugar is around 25, 25 grams somewhere around. I don't remember what, what the average is or whatever but roughly that. And it is rare that I would evaluate somebody's diet. And what I always do with people is I tell them don't change your eating habits. Don't try and impress me just eat for a week normal and track it so I can kind of see your habits and what you do. And when I do that it's every time at least 90% of the time that the people are over either over consuming sugar by double or quadruple or more of what they should be having in a day. So we are grossly over consuming just sugar in general whether it's fucking fake or real. We over consume sugar big fucking time especially because of liquids. And most people are just sedentary. Right. Like I could see some sugar consumption if you're active and you burn it off. If you're a 17 year old boy or girl who's playing sports and you're outside a lot of fruit and stuff like that or whatever. Go for it. Right. So there's an example. So somebody having a serving or two of fruit a day already hits like their daily intake of sugar. It's like that's it done like that. That's all you you should have. And so that means everything else in your diet should be eliminated from sugar because that is the best source of sugar I would say is to get it through fruit because you're getting the benefits of the fiber with it. So I think that everybody needs to evaluate their sugar intake and then scale back on it. But the you know which is which is worse for you the artificial sweeteners. I mean I think there's a this is this is this is a big thing in in supplements because many of the supplements that you take promise to give you some kind of a like an effect. Right. Like a pre workout. OK. It's going to be stimulant base. You're going to you're going to get this hyper feeling. There's stuff in there that's supposed to increase the pump which is like largely bullshit. But whatever that's what they're telling you. So you you have to take this powder. But it's also got a taste good. Right. Because otherwise people don't like taking things unless they taste good. So then they need to flavor it. However because you're into fitness. Well that would be stupid for us to give you a thing with 40 grams of sugar in it. That's a pre workout plus you probably feel terrible. So they got to create something that tastes good that doesn't have sugar. So supplements use a shit ton of artificial sweeteners. They're the most artificially sweetened category of food. If you could call a lot of the supplements the food that you'll find everything from bars to powders. And that's because people take like if you take a protein powder you don't want if you take a protein powder you're not trying to get carbs. You're not trying to get sugar. Now the way I look at it is this if you're taking a supplement. There's a reason why you're taking a supplement. There's a purpose. The purpose isn't to have a tasty meal or a tasty snack. It's just me. That's just the way I understand it. If I'm taking a pre workout it's because I want an effect from it. It's not because I want to taste something good. If I want to taste something good before my workout I just get some you know Hawaiian punch or some you know high C or whatever and drink it. I'm fucking done with it. But no the reality is why am I drinking a pre workout. I want to get hyped. Cool. That's the real reason not to make it not to have this delicious tasty drink. So ironic that. But that's how we mark. That's how we sell it. Right. A hundred percent. The reason why extend branching amino acids. The reason why the most popular pre workouts are the most popular. The reason why the most protein the popular protein powder is the most popular because they taste the best. A hundred percent. That's on the top of the list. If you look at all the money that's spent on protein powders. The vast majority of it goes towards making it palatable. Very little goes into making a quality protein powder supplement. This is a fact. This is a hundred percent fact. I know because I have friends in the industry and I know what sells and what doesn't sell and you need to make if you make a protein powder. It has to taste really fucking good or you can forget about it and care what's in it or how awesome the protein is has to take good. Now I was always like look I got to a point when I took supplements where I'm like man I just want to plug my nose and you know. Yeah I just want the best. I've taken protein because I want protein I want the best protein I want this other stuff. So I would take the one that I thought was best and however tasted was whatever I just had to deal with it. So now that all being said supplement companies have gotten pretty good with the non artificial route organify for example like plant proteins never taste as good as the as the whey protein or dairy protein. They just don't dairy proteins just taste better right. Organifies the first like plant protein that I would say is pretty close or on the level of a lot of the whey proteins that I've had. It's actually pretty good. So they did do a really really good job with their taste and which is one of the reasons why I think they're successful. But they also spend a lot of money and time on their quality and they have nothing in there that's artificial. And if you are one of these people that consume supplements on an everyday basis which a lot of our listeners do then you're you're probably better off going the not artificial route you're better because it's just so much. You know I mean if it's every once in a while fine whatever. But if it's you know five days a week or every workout or whatever go the go the non artificial route because what we know about artificial sweeteners that's coming out is it's not really the best thing for you. Next question is from Scott Capri Sun. Besides slow negative drink and unilateral work. What are some tips techniques to improve mind muscle connection. Mind muscle connection that's a very important thing to have. What is that. Well. I guess I can make see if I can explain it simply. It's the ability ability to fully extend and fully contract a given muscle that you pick that you choose you want to flex. So motor unit recruitment. Yeah. So so body builders will say or control a muscle through its full range of motion. Another way to say yeah. So like if I'm going to if I want to like do a pull down and I don't have a good mind muscle connection. I can still pull it down. I'm still going to activate the muscles that are doing it. But if I have a really good mind muscle connection let's say with my lats I might even be able to pull the bar down without activating too many other muscles or at least weekly activities. You might compartmentalize it though. Yes. And bodybuilders are incredible. They're probably the best. This is where then this is why I am a big fan of isolation exercises. You know we for a great role. Right. For a majority of this podcast early on I think we kind of poo pooed on a lot of isolation exercises. But just because I think a majority of people are missing the big compound lifts and I think we all agree that most people will benefit the most from incorporating more of these types of lifts. But man some of the best I ever felt as far as being connected to my body being able to develop muscle. No aches and pains was when I was bodybuilding when I when I was doing all these isolation exercises that were these small movements where you're focusing on just you know a couple muscles a small muscle group and trying to contract and move it. So there's a lot. And I think I think this person already noted what unilateral work. So I think unilateral work is incredible for this. Well it's interesting. You guys bring up the bodybuilding angle but even still like now even going through the FRC like they completely have the beginning of it is to understand isolation first isolating each individual joint. And so they make a point of that is like that's where they build off of that. And so that that you understand how to articulate and control the joints you know in the function that they're supposed to produce. And so it's very important. It's very important to establish that first. And then we start building off that and then in and get into the compound lifts. So God you just you actually just said something that really was kind of mind blowing right there was that maybe it's it's in our best interest to to learn to isolate each muscle or joint like you're saying and control control the joint through its full range motion through isolation type exercises before moving to compound lifts. Right. Because you're right. Think about what you did as a trainer. I'm sure you did this. Yeah. You did that. Like you saw you had a lady and she's trying to do a standing squat and you can tell. Oh your hips aren't firing the way they should. What's the next thing you do. Right. You go and you have her primer hips or whatever you fire her her glute muscles so that they can activate more as she does a squat. The reason why bodybuilders are so good at this by the way is your ability to fully contract and activate a muscle is very strongly connected to your ability to develop it. So if you have a poor connection to a muscle and it's not really doing everything that it can then it would be very difficult to develop that muscle. So you'll find yourself doing barbell squats and let's say you have a poor connection to your quads which is rare but let's just say you do you're doing barbell squats and you're just developing glutes and hamstrings or you're doing a bench press and instead of your chest getting developed you're developing your delts and your triceps because you don't have a good connection to that muscle and your recruitment pattern then follows that and you develop this pattern now where you're using less of that muscle you don't develop it. So here's a couple interesting things. We had a great podcast with Pekolski, Ben Pekolski. Ben is a huge advocate of this. He's a huge advocate and it might be I mean for bodybuilding it makes sense. Now you can go too far on this direction and make that about everything because there is lots of benefit to be able to use all of your muscles. Well obviously like I was saying back to my bodybuilding days was you know I was in I was in some of the best aesthetic shape I had the least amount of pain but then I didn't have the greatest range of motion and mobility and functionality. Yeah. Functional. Yeah. I wasn't very functional even though I looked cool and I felt good. So there's definitely a give and take to every every modality. Yeah there is. So yeah. So what he said which I thought was fascinating is first of all he said there are no weak body parts. I'm like what are you talking about? Of course I have a weak body part. He says no. If you can develop any one muscle really well you can develop all your muscles that well. So I partially disagree in the sense that I do think that there's muscle fiber density and shape and stuff like that that is genetic. That will help dictate whether or not a muscle develops as much but he's also partially right. If you have a let's say your muscle building general muscle building ability on a scale of one to ten is a seven. It's probably around a seven for your whole body. It wouldn't make sense that it's a seven for your whole body and then oh your your glutes it's a fucking three or a two. That doesn't make any sense unless you start to understand that perhaps you have a poor connection to that muscle. And that's why it's a three. And what he said which was very fascinating says one thing you'll notice is all like weak body parts. They have a very tough time being strong and their most shortened position or most contracted position. And I thought of that. I thought of that real hard after that podcast because I know what my weak body parts are what my body parts don't which body parts I have that don't respond as well as my my other body parts. One of them is my chest. My chest doesn't respond as well as my delts do. I thought hmm how do I feel in its most shortened contracted position fighting against resistance. And I actually tested it at the gym and I sure as fuck found that yeah I do see that I lack connection or strength in that most shortened position. So muscle connection in the short shortened position is a great way excuse me training yourself in that shortened position or learning how to connect in that shortened position is a great way to connect to that muscle. So figure out what it is to shorten to get that muscle in shortened position and then try to contract it as hard as you can. This is where that position you'll feel it. This is where an old school bodybuilding technique and I used to implement this into my training is you know you do these squeezes and holds at the end of a set. You know I'm on my fourth set of in between reps. Yeah chest you know peck deck flies or what I thought and at the last very end of it I do this squeeze and hold the isolation hold for you know 30 seconds or however long I can hold it and all I'm really doing is mentally concentrating on squeezing my chest as hard as I can until I start to feel it bleed over into other muscles and then I release right so I think to like somewhat important that like distinguish the difference so like within training like bodybuilding so I'm isolating the reason why I have certain issues with like machines and isolating muscle groups is that you know now we're we're basically turning off the rest of the body and we're we're isolating based off of like positioning and so now like all the forces are just you know in this one limb or this one joint versus I have to I have to intrinsically be able to stabilize and I have to be able to provide like anti-rotation and all these compensations that would happen if I don't have a machine and like placing me in a fixed position in a sense. So you know like as far as like bodybuilding there's a way to do that without machines right you guys are talking about these techniques that you know it doesn't require machines but you can have the same effect I just find it more applicable to then building off of that and then bringing that into like a compound lift. Well it does it doesn't from a functional standpoint but if you're trying to build a muscle that you already have a poor muscle connection by you adding stabilization anti-rotational and your and your body weight without a machine it's you've just made it more complex. Definitely. You've made it more challenging. So if I have some like let's use Sal as an example say Sal's a client of mine and he's just like man I'm just having a hard time developing my chest I'm not as connected to it. And so I decided to do all these free weight exercises with him. Well fuck that's not it's that's going to be really tough for him if especially if he already understands how to work out he's already created these poor recruitment patterns adding more more stuff like anti-rotational or full body to where balance. Yeah everything else like I'm complicating that process for him to get connected to a muscle he already has a hard time being great. So putting him in a very stable isolated position in a machine I see value to that and that's where I think that it gets neglected and probably underused by people that I would 100% do I would not put him in a in a a compound lift where he's having to stabilize and do other things I want him to. Now this now that being said if you're if you're training a client your number one goal I know they say they want to look a particular way but your goal is to be able to get the move really well so they don't hurt themselves then focus on the aesthetic type of stuff because if you don't place any focus on getting them to move better you may end up creating a well-developed aesthetic injury prone individual which happens quite a bit you see this quite a bit with the guy in the gym that's all you see a lot with guys in the gym that are like what we would call like a a weakened warrior bodybuilder right the guy who it's chest you know all chest biceps always but you know Mrs. Legs every now then isn't doing core isn't doing right he's hitting kind of the beach muscles all the time like that's really going to fuck you and if and if you're doing all machines but I mean if you're if you're training like a Ben Pacolski or like I think I was as a bodybuilder there's not it there's not very many muscle groups that are getting on that are not getting touched it's just getting them to move all together and right it works energetically together right I mean that's I ideally got to be creating doing something functional in there but yeah it's all valuable it's all valuable that's the thing like isolation movements yeah in a correctional standpoint if I'm trying to correct an imbalance or movement I use isolation movements quite a bit if I'm trying to get your scapula to retract I'm not going to put you in a bent over barbell row to do it if you've got forward shoulder you try to get someone with forward shoulder retract and depress their scapula with a barbell row good luck yeah right they're stabilizing their body it's a free weight no it's going to be a bicep and low back exercise now what I do is I have them sit on a fucking chest pad supported machine or cable and I focus on so you get the feedback so they understand that's it feels like that's right but then you have to transition them you know further to progress that right so they internalize it so that I guess that's the the sort of the point is it's training wheels yeah well if you're a trainer and you have a client and you want to improve their connectivity to a muscle there's a few things you can do put them in a stable situation where there's less for them like Adam was saying less for them to worry about machines and cables are great for this number two some use a mirror many times if someone can see a muscle that they're trying to activate they can feel it is why so many people have such a tough time activating the their back muscles because they don't see them so sometimes you could use a mirror if possible and you could tell them see watch your scapula pull back now watch you also have to understand the function of the muscle so if the muscles job is to excuse me depress the scapula well then you focus on depressing the scapula the third thing is touch the muscle while they're moving it so they have that feedback they can feel it your finger on it helps them you know activate it yeah a lot like a lot I've had a lot of clients really like wow I you know I feel a lot more responsive and just just an external like stimulus like that a lot of times is what was neglecting because I didn't even know how to turn that on so unless it's their glutes yeah or inner thigh I think it's a weird that you can feel this working you'll get fired or not supposed to do that yeah no sorry all right yeah next question is from prime and glory do you prime your whole body before a full body workout or focus on what you will train first then prime the next section of your body before you continue training I wonder for all the same on this or different well so here's the idea behind effective priming now can you prime and exercise yes can you prime your specific body yes which one is a priority your body so what I mean by that is there are specific movements I can do to prime the average person for a bench press okay but there are much more specific movements I do to prime an individual with say forward shoulder or you know when elbow flares out whatever is compensating that's right so the way you prime your body before your workout is specific or at least it should be specific to your body your personal body like for me one of the things that I do when I work out my body is I prime my hips in particular I prime my ability for my my hips to or at least my femurs to press out a little bit especially as I descend or am I at the bottom of a squat in other words to activate my my gluteus medius a little bit and I've noticed for me for my body that takes away the hip pain low back pain it makes me feel much more stable is that the same priming I would do for another individual who may have a completely different problem no that may actually make them much worse so priming there's general priming where you can do like you know like general priming exercises before your workouts and that's really I you know that's super generic it's better than nothing but it's super genetic and like a generic excuse me and like anything that's super generic it's not going to be nearly not even close to as effective as priming your individual body based on how your body moves this is why when we created maps prime it was man this was like three days of us racking our brains like how do we design something that someone can take and then figure out their own body to be able to prime because we knew that was the key like yeah we could have written we could have written a prime program with like here's how you prime before you bench well there's how you probably didn't warm up though that's right you know that's the difference yeah the difference being like you mentioned these these things that we tend to catch ourselves compensating towards and you have to be able to identify those first and foremost and so like having a quick process to be able to even identify that you know my shoulders don't fully retract while doing this well this is why prime was made exactly that's what I'm saying yeah exactly yeah so that way you know you can test it and you you bring that into your priming session so yeah for me too it's like you know I need to I need to add you know rubber bands I need to add ducts you know I need to do all these things I need to do to get a better squat session in ahead of time because I know what my body is gonna you know naturally gravitate to to kind of fall into these these hardwired patterns here's it here's a silly super basic by the way example let's say we have two individuals both of them are doing barbell squats one the one person their their glutes just don't fire the way they want when they squat they've been squatting for a while their butt just isn't developing and when you watch them squat you can see like okay your glutes aren't really firing well the other person does lots of squats the opposite happens they get a big old ass but their quads just don't develop which sometimes you see in men or bodybuilder sometimes right where they're like I don't squat because I just feel my butt those two people would have two completely different priming sessions now super basic super basic prescription the person with the glute issue I would have them prime before doing squats with maybe hip thrusts off the floor with bands around their legs so that they abduct and activate the gluteus medius and squeeze their glutes at the very top do a few sets of that really activate the glutes then go squats boom you feel in your glutes boom your glutes are more active the other person I may have them do leg extensions or sissy squats or something to really feel the quads squeeze and contract so when they then go do their squats now they're feeling the quads fire the way they should and they're not so reliant on their hips no I I agree so if you're paying attention to my insta story right now I'm on day four of my kind of journey back and I'm sharing you know my priming exercises my sauna and red light protocol and then what exercises and movements I'm doing and the way I look at it is especially being thirty six years old I've got a fucking ton of things that I need work on you know like I need ankle mobility I need better hip mobility I need better shoulder mobility I'm starting to get this forward head now with all this damn phone time like I'm starting to see all these things about my body yeah like being in traffic and driving I have to compensate for that right right so there's time for this there's all these things that I'm seeing that's going on with my body currently then I have an injury that I'm dealing with right now so what I'll do is like I I pick and you'll see right now there's normally two three four prime movements that I'm doing and I look at it like a like this sliding scale now in a perfect world or an off day what I do right now I'll spend a whole hour doing all these types of mobility drills and movements and and priming or what we call fortification sessions but then when I'm actually getting ready to do a lift right I'm going to pick like the three biggest ones that are going to that are making the biggest difference on me or that I need the most right now so you see me using a lot of mace and Indian clubs right now I'm doing my wall presses which is just like our zone one test so I'm doing a lot of the zone one test because I'm starting to feel my rounded shoulders and forward head really bad even to the point where I've had to regress it and get on the ground and prime it and then I'm doing a lot of combat stretch because of my ankle and my Achilles so you know there's a lot of other I like I'm not doing any of my ninety ninety right now I'm not doing any of my lizard with rotation those are all big those are big nuts or bolts for me but what I'm doing is I'm focusing on the areas that I know will help me the most right now and then I'll build upon that then I'll start to add more into my arsenal to where I'm starting to do these other movements but a hundred percent I'm not thinking about okay I'm doing these clubs or I'm doing this wall press so I can get a better bench and so now I think I do because of that I think because I get myself my shoulders in the right position I think I get right into my bench press and I think I have a better bench but I'm not priming going like I need to get the most out of my bench I'm priming my posture because I know I'm not in really good alignment because of what I do all day long and so I think really priming should be more about your body where are your biggest deviations where are you fucked up the most addressing those in that order and then of course applying all the other ones that could carry over into improving your bench improving your spot that means a good point too because like your body inevitably is going to need like tune-ups right so like depending on what your patterns have been established because of a change of work or you know environment you know you have to kind of assess all that too and that's why it's good to revisit you know the testing process and then see kind of like how that that could have all changed a little bit Oh bro it's I'm kind of tripping out on this right now because I've been I've lost all this muscle put on this body fat become really deconditioned where I'm at right now and then I'm now I'm coming back to moving again as far as exercise is concerned and the the 90 90 and the deep squats and doing all that stuff those were like must for me before but I actually because of all the hard work that I put into that I've created these really good recruitment patterns stronger in that yeah and I'm and it's comfortable I can get right now in a baby position and sit there all day no problem I don't feel stiff I don't feel tight and so something that was a staple in my priming in my in my off days and my mobility work has now become a secondary movement for me because I've done so much but I have noticed that because of the the time on the planes and the car and on the phone so much during this downtime oh I'm getting forward head I can feel it like when I go do our zone one test fuck man getting my neck back yeah oh man it's been it's been very very obvious to me pulling that nodule on the back of the head to the wall what a what an issue that is attraction yes it's I've seen a major major difference in that and so sure now I have one area that's doing better but then I noticed this so you know I've completely flipped my priming on its head based off of what I think needs to be addressed the most and I think that is the idea of maps prime was to give you guys the tools to simplify it as easy as possible so the average person can take this test break it up in zone one break it up in zone two break it up in zone three and then give you some just actionable items for those specific areas if you fail on those it literally is a test you need to be revisiting all the time all the time all the time nice your body changes yes I tell you what if you if you don't prime if you're not priming your workouts now properly and then you learn how to prime your body properly and do your workouts it is there is no comparison it is night it is night and day completely different in terms of the feel your workouts how you feel after your workouts and how quickly you progress it's that big of a difference and I just took it for granted because as a personal trainer I did it for my clients especially if you're not 19 years old you know what I'm saying if you're 1920 you may not at this point in your life like you may not see as much of a difference but you start pushing 30 plus it's a game it's no longer a game changer it's just it's a game changer and it's a necessity for me now now it's like I have to do these things before I train and it makes a world of a difference when I do and if I neglect it it makes a world of a difference next question is from Tim Sharon what are the biggest misconceptions fans have about you that are not true that are not true a lot of people think Sal's really smart yeah totally not true yeah totally this whole time he always has all pre-selecting information Justin and I get all the information for him we provide it then he reads it off that's right you know just reads it off a teleprompter this whole time you guys thought he was hella smart hold on let me look it up on the internet no okay here's one there's this weird misconception that I'm not good at sports I'm like do people actually believe that no that's not true that's actually a true one that's a true one have you had one I'll go because I could think of something that was it used to bother me when we first started I remember we talked about this on the show a long time ago we early on we got coined as the was the nerd the ego and the what was Justin I find the the nerd the ego and the athlete or would they call you hey call me something I don't remember the other guy maybe it was the other guy the quiet guy the other guy but so I you know so I don't know what it was what caused it I'm sure what caused people to call you the ego yeah I came off as this egomaniac yeah and it's statements like that that probably didn't help the cause right yeah right exactly so this is what happened was early on I became known as like this egomaniac and coined as the ego on the show and I think that it's so ironic because it couldn't like that's this is where I this is where I'm most read like you want to talk about like what I'm into like psychology neuroscience understanding all that stuff like I'm very fascinating that topic I pride myself on being somebody who's very self aware and so to coin me is like this egomaniac guy is kind of funny to me because I think it's really the opposite I believe that I'm I believe I'm extremely confident and I think a lot of times confidence gets misunderstood or people think that it can be arrogance or can be cockiness or can be ego but no it's not at all I've always been a very confident person and I think that was a lot of people have this idea of me which is also why too a lot of times when I meet people in person they're just I think they go like oh you're not what I thought you were going to be like you know I think people expect me to be kind of like this cocky arrogant guy and that's again it couldn't be further from the truth so no we I don't think we'd work with you if you were for reals right I don't think any of us would last if we all had you know we had asshole egos sort of like like serious for real dysfunction right that's what I mean if if any of us were egomaniacs I think and we all are our leaders type a personality but then and but nobody possesses that you know unhealthy narcissism or ego you know egomaniac like nobody's like that at all I don't think it would ever work again it wouldn't last right not in this kind of a right so I know that's that's the first one that comes to mind because it was an early one that I remember I could think of one for for for mind pump that is a misconception conception and part of it's our fault because we joke around we laugh and all this I think people think that we're like party maniacs like yeah I feel like yeah I feel like fans think that like because we openly talk about drugs yeah you know I think if they're like oh if I'm gonna hang out mind pump we're gonna fucking go crazy like you know rock stars and it's like no we go to bad I love that misconception about us though I feed into that whatever I can a little bit I know yeah Sal likes it every once in a while we'll have like some big name guests and I'll just fire join up right yeah ask if they want so and a lot of times they freak out or sometimes they they partake and then they they get all weird they're all weird because they're not used to being high like our our level like mind pumps like idea of you know what's funny we have yet let's see three years working together have we like partied hard together no we haven't no never right no no when we're out somewhere and we have some free time you know we end up doing watching watching the movie on tv yeah that's our that's our like hey guys you guys we got some free time to that what do you guys want to talk about ideas I was gonna say most of the time it's it's work related stuff we're not really partying that's kind of a big misconception of all of us you don't think there's been one uh with you I'm trying to think right now it used to be I have one for you I think and I think it feeds right into what we were talking about the whole the nerd the ego and whatever the other guy I think that the the whole nerd thing I think you're not a real nerd I think a lot of people when you you think of nerds that you they attach this like awkward and yeah you're not that at all you're somebody who yeah exactly awkward bookworm just not this just not somebody who's really social you don't have hardly any traits that I think the the typical nerd would have at all and I think that people call you that or we say that about you but I don't think that's well today here's you know this is why I didn't say that one I think it's because today that the were the the name nerd has a different it's got a different means kind of cool yeah when we were it's not a bad thing yeah when we were kids in the 80s and 90s you get wedgies and thrown in a locker a nerd was like you did nobody wanted to be a nerd that was that was like a leopard like you did not want to have it typically meant you were socially awkward you did something really weird like you picked your nose or whatever nobody wanted to hang out with you and then on also you were probably really smart so that that was one of the other things that was part of being a nerd right today being a nerd is like you're just really smart or you're into you're really into something so now they'll say you're a nerd and it's kind of become cool so now if somebody says I'm a nerd like if it was 1985 I'd be like well fuck you man but now I'm like oh cool thank you you know because it's kind of and plus like the powerful people today that we all like think are awesome like Elon Musk and Steve Jobs and you know all these guys they were all they're all tech nerds or whatever and they're cool I'll got one for you here's a misconception although people know this now if they listen to the show but but this was a misconception for me for a long time people would always ask me were where I got my education this has happened all the time about train clients I would train clients would be they'd be my clients for like a year and we'd have all these great conversations like god so where'd you go to school like where'd you learn I'd be like Santa Teresa High School went to high school like what do you mean you didn't go to no I don't go anywhere so that used to be a misconception that I used to be embarrassed about actually yeah yeah used to embarrass me that was a major insecurity for me for a long time but then it became superpower yeah became something that I was like isn't that crazy how that is that was a major insecure that was something you and I were very similar I was super insecure that in my early mid 20s but I think when you when that light switch goes off that like wait a second I don't have to go to some university continue to educate myself and grow right that I don't know what what age that really that switch went off for me and what I found too was that a lot of the my buddies the people that I was closest to that actually pushed through the four or six or eight years of college when they were done they were done to stop I got a lot of boys right now that have masters even some PhDs and they don't want to fucking touch a book well I went through periods of that right you know and like that to my kind of contribution I like I hear you guys like bringing up books and like I'm so like to me I'm like I've read so many fucking books dude like I I got burnt out you know and I just I was uninterested I was not like like ignited to to learn and and the academic process just like totally killed that for me and I'm just now getting back to yeah just now kind of feeding it again and in benefiting from it but yeah man it was like I think that's a lot more slow death for me I think that's a lot more common than people think at least in at least in my circle like I can literally I can think of a handful of friends right now that all have you know like masters PhDs or just regular degrees and every one of them man every one of them are none of them are big readers and my friends that are the biggest readers are people that are self-educated that we're like okay pick up and they go and and what I attribute that to is I bet I would feel the same way too if you forced me to go through my early 20s in late teens into school where I had to read every single day and I had to put all these I would just be like as an adult I'd be like I'm done I did it I don't need to do it anymore I could see myself pushing away from that and not wanting to so it's kind of funny how that works well there's this I can't remember I'm trying to look it up there's actually a psychological term to describe a process of which I'll give you an example let's say you're a writer for fun you love writing it's like your favorite thing to do and then you get a job and you're forced to write you're forced to write on a schedule your boss is like write this article write this write that you start to dislike the thing that you used to enjoy doing because you're being forced to do it and then you end up not liking writing this happens to a lot of child athletes you'll have a child who's a prodigy in gymnastics or swimming or ice skating or whatever that shows promise and loves it and then they are forced and they compete and they push him and then the kid at the age of 16 is like I never want to fucking do that again and they stop forever there's a real psychological phenomenon here where if you're forced to do something for a while you start to fucking hate it and this happens with education all the time like like Justin said like you just get burnt out because you were forced because you had to although you love learning obviously right it's like you're burnt out by it because of that whole that connection you've made with it yeah what do you think your big misconception what do you think I was trying to think of it like I I pretty much wear who I am on my sleeve you know it's kind of hard for me to distinguish like what the perception is of me you know I don't think a lot of people really know I think who I am you know I think that that might be the misconception is that like people people kind of like think I'm I don't know like I don't vocalize like my points or my opinions or you know as frequently for them so it's like they don't really get as much of an insight about the way I think I don't know that's just me speculating but like I for me it's always been like I think I think one of the things is that that I'm I'm sort of introverted and I'm quiet and all this kind of stuff which is not the case at all no no like I definitely if I'm in a party I'm like the first one talking to everybody oh that's a good that's a that's a great point I think I think a lot of people would think that that's not true which is 100% true we've been places before and Justin is by far as outgoing if not more outgoing than any of us yeah I'm very very very social yeah dynamic of like we're working for me too and like I analyze a lot when I'm when I'm in work mode I analyze the fuck out of everything and I listen to to you know where it's going in the direction and like what your guys points are and you guys have really good points that I'm trying to like bounce off of and then like I don't know I look at it more as a team and like the flow of the conversation versus me like trying to interject you know all my points when it doesn't belong right you know what I mean so I think that people if they understand me it's like I'm I'm kind of a role player in that sense you know well that's the I think that's an attractive quality about both you guys that I I've always appreciated is that nobody in here cares about being the front or the lead man or whatever we care more about like the the conversation or the interview or whatever that we're doing we care more about the audience and how they receive it then we care about our own our own personal self-worth or whatever that we're getting out of it so and I think that you exemplify that I think you're somebody who I mean and it can I can't imagine I couldn't imagine a third person with Sal and I like you did would just get gobbled up but the fact that you don't allow that I think is amazing and I think that it's so cool and I don't and I think a lot of times people think that like oh you guys never let Justin get a word in or you don't know this I'm like no Justin is who Justin is like there's no who I am right if he wants to put his trust me if there's a topic that we cover that he has an opinion on he's not going to be one person I'll come right in I don't have any like reserve about that it's just I like I appreciate when you guys talk and you have like you know little debacles between the two of you like I sit there it's fun for me you know like I like to listen to like I just like the fans I don't know sometimes you get a little nervous over there nah sometimes when I get off if I get fired up enough I can look over at you cross he doesn't know who's who's side he's supposed to be on well that's the only part where I'm like are they going to manipulate me again that's like one side versus the other whatever you stick at him every time like that that awkward he's smart he always picks the right guy the awkward youtube moment where they made me pick Sal as the closer and I was like fuck are you uh are you a sentimental person I feel like you are yeah but I I bury that shit like I don't want anybody to see that because it's but I've seen you with your kids I don't think you bury it bury it as well as you think you do well yeah who's the most romantic out of three of us romantic yeah yeah Jesus Sal probably yeah definitely I don't you know here's a place he puts rubber gloves on me do she I feel like I could I could step that that part of me up a bit you know I don't I don't know if that's if that's true from what I know of you guys and how you talk about your significant others you're both extremely romantic or respectful and you speak very highly of them and openly you hear that I don't know if that's the what she listens to the show I'm sure she hears you say that shit every episode I don't know I mean do you I think I think you're all kind of like yeah no I mean we definitely I mean I I definitely acknowledge you know what my wife does for me and everything like all day all the time but at the same time do you tell her stuff like you're beautiful I love are you like every day oh yeah all the time all the time it's just it's just more of like a doing very specific things you know and like planning I'm terrible at planning events and and you know organizing things yeah we all know that in that sense I'm horrible at that so I feel like I don't get like you can't like label me as like the romantic you know because I'm not like doing picnics and shit you know I don't I don't I don't do that he'll show up yeah that's me too be very grateful I'm here oh I'm the same way like hey what do you think about this that and the others I'll be there I don't know just remind me exactly text me before so I know the show that's pretty much it let me know about your surprise yeah check it out go to your app store get the mind pump media app it's 100% go check it out I was doing a little dive a deep dive into a deep dive yeah Ben Greenfield's podcast the other day and what I realized is he has a ton I mean a lot of podcast dealing with natural or alternative ways to cure or treat cancer which I wish I had you know years ago I had a family member who was diagnosed with a you know terminal cancer and you know she didn't make it or whatever and I was just scouring the internet for information and many times when you're in that situation you know you have your doctors helping you but then you go online and you try to you know read information on this and it's difficult to sift through it because there's so much stuff that's out there but the thing about Ben that I like is Ben Ben has a lot of integrity he's a very smart dude and he has introduced us to phenomenal guests because he's got that he's got a great you know he sifts through it a lot himself and as I'm going through his podcast because I was on a long drive is that the Roger Drummer one? the recent one was a good one yeah yeah that was a really good one with the herbologists I like I just like how Ben the way Ben interviews especially with like really intelligent minds like that the questions that he peers in into on these people I think are is incredible yeah he extracts a lot of valuable information on these people absolutely and Ben Ben's podcast is one of the few podcasts that I consistently recommend to people and our audience that goes and listens to it and that's not just because he's a good friend of ours I mean he is no he's got a good podcast right he's got a very very good podcast it's a great information good entertainment Ben's been doing podcasting for a long time he's also the guy that I want to hear give me information too because after you get to know him and you meet him this dude fucking lives health and fitness he I feel I always applies it I feel guilty every time I see him I'm not gonna lie yeah here I'm supposed to be this health expert and I see the way this guy and he lives it at a next level and so he's the person who I want to ask those hard questions especially when you're talking about like Chinese medicine because there's so many there's so many people that when they present it it comes off very woo-woo and Ben has a very scientific approach about everything that he does so it's incredible to listen to him dive into some of these woo-woo type of people no it's I tell you what if you like Mind Pump and you want more good information the podcast to check out besides ours is the Ben Greenfield fitness podcast 100% thank you for listening to Mind Pump if your goal is to build and shape your body dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at mindpumpmedia.com the RGB Superbundle includes Maths Anabolic Maths Performance and Maths Aesthetic nine months of phased expert exercise programming designed by Sal Adam and Justin to systematically transform the way your body looks, feels and performs with detailed workout blueprints and over 200 videos the RGB 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