 You know, what do you plan to do now? What's what's the what's the game? What's the end game now? What's that? What's the end thing that you're gonna take care of Mac like to oh? Man, what are we doing? All right? The end game is to have peace of mind. That is the end game I think that everything we do and we pursue in life is to try to get us a piece of mind Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one But did you end up have to cut off a lot of family when you got out because you know Sometimes you'd be gone so long and you think that a lot of people be down for you and hold you down While you're gone, but you realize who's really your friends who is really your family who is you know what I mean Did you have that problem so that when you came home your circle that you had became a lot smaller? No, um, I Started by saying I'm an optimist, right. I don't see things that way. I Don't think anyone owe me anything. Well, that's your time. You see I'm saying. Yeah I was always that type of child from up from a child who just I take my response. I take me I'm my responsibility Nobody else. I agree with that and because so I don't expect much from people and I'm never disappointed because I don't have those expectations for we get out for a BG Did you ever get to do time with BG while you was gone? No, he was in the fair. Oh, yeah I said, I'd seen him before he went to the fair. He been gone by 12 by 15 years. Yeah, man It's like a lot of lot of rappers man. Can't you you know, it's it's almost like it's a target Not just through the judicial system Oh, it was within themselves within the hip-hop police. It's all kind of stuff It was I mean and make no mistake about it and let me say this and then just for the records before we go I Want I don't ever want to come across as down playing this experience or down playing the injustices that are that exists within our Judicial system within our criminal justice system and And within law enforcement, I don't ever want to come across as down playing the The the the enormity of how it negatively affects Certain groups of people culture, right? So certain cultures, right? So that stuff is real But just on an individual level on a personal level I feel that every person is in control of their destiny and the way you see the world where you perceive it is what Is what it is because we all define our own reality two people can look at the same thing and Guess what? Depending on how they view it. I mean the way they how they feel about Perception is everything if my partner and another guy get into a fight This dude can beat the crap out my partner if I don't like the dude I'm gonna say man. My partner was was was hurt already here I'm gonna find a reason why my partner was in in the right. My all my partner can punch down a 80-year-old dude and If you like your partner and you're on that end of it You're gonna the average person to be like well, man, he shouldn't have did this or he did that and that's what made You know, because people just see things with their heart not their eyes But when you came home, you weren't able to file any lawsuits or anything like that. No because I wasn't exonerated Yeah, but just you know, what are you planning to do now? What's what's the what's the game? What's the end game now? What's that? What's the end thing that you're gonna take care of Mac like? Oh, man, what are we doing? All right? The end game is to have peace of mind. That is the end game I think that everything we do and we pursue in life is to try to get us a piece of mind. That's it. So for me, I love Mentoring, okay, so what I do now is I have a Work with kids with a certain organization with two organizations actually and One of them is an after-school program Well, you know, we do a lot of workshops for kids teaching them just trying to give them the opportunities that didn't exist when we were kids Another organization and that one is called yep the youth empowerment project another organization I work with is called son of a saint is for fatherless boys. Okay, and I I'm passionate about that one because through mentoring in prison one of the things that I realized was about 80% of the young men that came to my class That were under the age of 23 Was fatherless was fatherless Mm-hmm, and these were all prisoners These were all young men between 18 and 23 years old and 80% of them were fatherless In fact, I used to ask every class might be 30 people. I'll be like, yo, how many of y'all got a father and you're like Three of them might raise their hand. Mm-hmm. So I realized early on that, you know I Realized in the neighborhood as a kid that there was something different about me and my friends who did have their father and The guys who didn't