 Hey everybody, welcome back to the next guest. I'm your host Matthew Weber. I'm joined by Tyler Kelly. How you doing? Hey doing good We had a really good discussion before the show luckily recording that we'll have to release that is like an extra something to patreon Because that was fun. Oh for sure. And then of course I'm getting messages now So that's awesome Stop messaging me Google and Facebook. I don't give a shit. I gotta mute this tab so it stops that I don't know you no longer care Anyway, this is what you get when you record a podcast So this is the Linux cast we talk about Linux thing is because Linux is right in the title It'd be weird if we talked about windows We should definitely do that just like an april fools joke next year. We'll just instead of doing the links cast We'll talk about windows for the whole episode And we'll make it sound like we really care about it and it's awesome. Oh, yeah We'll start making fun of all the Linux nerds and We won't mention a single problem that exists in windows because there are none Microsoft is awesome. Oh, that's definitely gonna happen. All right So what have you been doing in Linux this week? um, well, I have been dealing with some, uh, Graphics card issues and from what I can tell it's Mainly due to the fact that I have an msi 5700 xt So like there's this known issue with 5700 xt's Well, they were where they have a green screen crash And so like for 20 seconds your entire screen will turn green and then the computer will reboot Now on windows there is a specific version of Like a the radion software and driver that you install and it will never happen But on linux what I found is when I use the zen kernel and Use the latest drivers like mesa drivers and all that on on arch No problem. It will happen once a month Maybe twice and it's always like when the computer has just woken up from like a sleep So it's not a big deal on elementary os. I do not know why but It it was happening every day. If not every other day, well elementary os uses The last lts right from a boon tooth. That's probably why it's probably the look because of the old kernel Yeah, and I also think that their drivers might be a little bit older Because as far as I know when it comes to like drivers for the 5700 xt Even on windows the The better the drivers are the less it's an issue So it might be something there, but I don't know. I think elementary os has it the same sort of up-to-date Drivers I would assume but It could be pretty wrong there. I mean it's weird. It's weird because the AMD stuff all comes baked in the kernel. So If it's an older kernel, you're not going to get the stuff for the newer hardware But that that card has been around for ages, but that doesn't mean that there's not like bugs or whatever That you're experiencing that haven't been worked out in the kernel Because it was a fairly popular card. You think that it'd be something that would get fixed fairly Yeah, no, I the reason I did mention it's an msi card is because from everything that I can read online this bug is Mainly due to MSI cards like MSI cards are the ones that typically get them and it seems to be like a quality assurance issue Because one person was explaining it online that it very well could be that that one driver Just particularly like it has a good way of dealing with whatever causes the issue on the card Um, but I mentioned MSI because they just If you've ever you know done a whole bunch with building computers and messing with a lot of components because I've built a lot of family members computers over the years MSI parts just in general have a higher rate of problems at least in my experience I couldn't tell you what graphics card I have in my computer other than that's an rx 580 I don't know what brand it is No clue. Um It might be like one of the it was a cheap card. So I I don't know Like I know I know the processor and I know the the the mud of the board and stuff because I built it But I just been so long. I don't remember but I I Does anybody really want to use like uh, I mean like I know a whole bunch of people have um been using the Like Nvidia cards for Linux, but I've always had so many problems with Nvidia cards screen tearing and stuff. So I Oddly enough that you say that I've had more issues with screen tearing uh to do with amd but that's only because like to me I I feel like a big part of that is um my Lack of knowledge when it comes to fixing those types of issues Because a lot of the times when I was dealing like when I would deal with screen tearing on linux I was much more new So I have a feeling because I I don't have any problems with screen tearing with an amd card anymore but I think it was probably I wasn't doing stuff right or like I know back in the day I would install like a Um, like icon or Compton and just do a whole bunch of stuff to it Not knowing what I was doing. So I have a I have a feeling that's a big part of it But I actually got a quadro k 4000 as my replacement to go in it now because eventually I'll I'll get a new card because this one This one. It's just I like it and everything But I could afford to get a new one when the price has come down So I just got a hundred dollar card to slap in it now It can do everything I need to too fine And I'll just have an extra backup graphics card after this And I could probably sell that one for insane loads of money But I'm not gonna do that I don't I don't want to sell it to someone and then have a whole bunch of problems with it and be my problem like Yeah, the Graphics card market now is just not Suitable to actually upgrading for normal people All right, so what I've been doing is I've been playing around with uh alternative video editors and this week has been shot cut and so It turns out that Kaden line is actually fixed what was going wrong But for the last three or four weeks or whatever after an update Kaden live was just the crash just crash thing ever And uh, you know, and it was always wait until I was like 90% way done with a video and then it would crash And sometimes you'd get lucky and it would like restore and remember your position and stuff Sometimes, you know, not and you'd have to start over again and I was just completely done with that so I looked at shot cut this week and I'm gonna do a video on it probably tonight or tomorrow, but It's okay It has some features that I really like so like in Kaden live when you do fade it fades in and fades out It's just like a line or whatever. It doesn't tell you the duration of the fade In shot cut, I'll actually tell you this is this fades 10 seconds long. So you can make your fades, you know, exactly equal That's really cool. Uh, I also like if you overlap like a like a video One you like you cut the video and then you overlap them It will automatically do the whole fading thing. So it kind of looks like a transition fade. It's really that's really nice um I don't care for the interface like at all. It's uh very clunky If anyone's looked at a picture of shot cut, it's The ui is very I don't know old Yeah, I mean, it's not it's not the old. It's not audacity old Yeah, uh, but it does look old the the worst part is that you can after so like I always and everything I do I always record the video and the audio separately So I always record in audacity separates and you know, I sync with a hand clamp a hand clamp And you know get them all synced up and then I go into you know, kate and live or whatever and sync the audio and stuff And then in kate and live you can decouple the Audio and then regroup the audio with the new stuff. It's always synced up, right in shot cut You can't do that. You can't group audio and video you can Decouple them fine, right because I always have that way. I always have a backup I record the audio and stuff in obs but I also record it in audacity But I take the obs stuff out because it always picks up more stuff in the background. Yeah, so But you can't group anything in in shot cut. It's just it completely impossible. It's it's I probably have enjoyed Shot cut just fine. I mean it worked fine. It was very stable. It had I mean I don't I'm not any like fancy video editor. So it has it had all the features that I need But that inability to go through and group things So I actually had to go through when I had to cut out an um I'd have to cut the video and had then I had to go in through and cut the audio Like two separate things like doubled the amount of time I was spending cutting things out. It's not It was not good. So you recommend it's been it's been so long I'm sorry to cut you out. It's been so long since I've used shot cut So you're you're telling me they have it so you can definitely ungroup a video from the audio But there is no functionality whatsoever to to regroup audio. I couldn't if it's there and exist I didn't find it So and I did google it now granted. I was using duck duck go. So it's possible that it's just I couldn't find it but Um, yeah, I couldn't like I said as far as I know is that functionality doesn't exist and it's That seems like a fairly basic functionality That everything, you know should have but it doesn't And that's just I mean it's something that if I had to use shot cut I could you know It's fine But I'm back. That seems to be everyone's endorsement of of open shot is is fine, you know All right. So yeah, that's what I've been doing. I'm back on katyn live now. You recommended olive I'll have to take a look at that. It's always the alpha the alpha designation of it's always kind of scared me away, but I don't know for most people it does that I will give that a look I mean, I'm okay trying beta software out. I'll always try a beta software out But alpha always like well, no, that's gonna be really buggy. Yeah Yeah, all right Uh, let's go ahead and jump into the contact information If you want to get in contact with us, you can do so at the next cast on twitter I'm at mtwb on twitter Tyler is one of those healings that doesn't have twitter because he's just like that You can subscribe to all of our audio feeds and all that kind of stuff for the linuxcast.org right now that just points you towards our anchor.fm page But sometime this week, I promise finally promise that we will have our own website It's gonna happen. It's on the list of things to do. I just have to you know Do it, um, you can find you can contact us at Via email at the linuxcast at gmail.com. I might actually get an actual Like email for us to it at the linuxcast.org. 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That's the only reason that's the reason right All right, so every every week Between the two of us we pick out one news item each week to uh link to and this week is no difference So tyler, why don't you tell us what you found for us this week? Well, um, my link is coin x's website coinx.com. Um, it is a exchange for lbc and I have to recommend it because bitrex is Crud they have given me no help in trying to You know get just being able to use the exchange Um coin x on the other hand it has been extremely simple to make an account to get verified to To transfer everything I transferred. Um It's weird. Um, how you have to take your your lbc and turn it into cash So my strategy is I turn it from lbc into bitcoin And I don't just withdraw my bitcoin And then because I have a shame on me, but I have a coin base account. That's where I get like transferred to my bank Because as far as I know Just as far as I know, I don't think you can withdraw Like money and stuff from coin x. I think they only do crypto, but um If I try to withdraw bitcoin from coin x there is like a 100 dollar withdrawal fee and My way of getting around that is I just take the bitcoin that I transferred from lbc Turn that into bitcoin cash and there is a zero dollar whatsoever withdrawal fee from there And so just take my bitcoin cash Then you use coin base to just Take it and turn it into cash and send it on to my bank account and I have to be honest out of all the exchanges that I found It's pretty simple to use and they actually do have like dedicated like little tutorials on there to walk you through How to use stuff if you're a complete noob like me So It's definitely a good crypto exchange have to say it's great. And so if you're on odyssey or anything like that and you're Wanting to know that you can at the very least turn your lbc into cash and how to do it I think coin x the best place to go for it. Okay, so this is the question I have to ask and it's something that I've never been able to find the answer to Because I'm a complete cryptocurrency noob. I think most of it's nonsense Um, that's just my opinion like I'm sure I'm sure everybody else is out there Is getting we were rich they're floating around throwing around fake coins or whatever, but I'm I'm here like oh, this is nonsense Um, how much is it lbc and odyssey worth like in real money? um one lbc right now Or the last time I checked it was trading for about 19 cents But as of like four days ago it was trading for like a quarter So it's worth about a quarter But it's not it's not extremely valuable But I mean also if you use lbc like as a creator you do get rewarded for each of you similar to youtube, but As far as I'm somebody who doesn't make anything off of youtube So to be making money off of lbc and to be able to I'm going to be able to pay my next month bills With what I've made off of um, like odyssey and library So I think it's awesome. That's cool. Um, you definitely made more money than I have on odyssey I've made so I've got 33 lbc total So that's not very much. Um, no, I don't get tips There I don't know what I can do to get tips But I don't I I it's mostly because I don't interact on odyssey like at all It's I have my contents transferred over there, but that's the end of my interaction with it. Um so I don't know how I've done it, but I or I don't think I've done anything, but I don't I don't I don't know why but my content for for some reason does Way better on odyssey And like I get I have one video that got like 37 views on youtube and then on odyssey it got over a thousand So yeah, see for me. I'm exactly the other way around. I always get all my views on youtube and I think my most viewed Video on odyssey is like 86 views or something and that's like no really the most Um, I could probably actually even go see I Like it's it's it's some ridiculously small number Um, so my most viewed video of all time Uh has 72 views Yeah, yeah, we are polar opposites Yeah, all right. So my my most viewed I think on youtube you have a video that's also Has more views than my top because my top one has like 4400 views Um, and that's like my biggest one. So, um I don't know my my biggest video on youtube. I think it's got like 3 000 views or close to it All right. Yeah, I don't know odyssey is still a complete mystery to me I think part of the reason is because I just don't take it seriously, right? So it's okay all right, uh my news item this week is um I don't remember. Uh, I'm gonna actually look at this. Oh, it's the microsoft thing. So if you use wsl For the longest time mostly what you could do with wsl is just terminal based stuff, right? I mean, that's that's basically the way it's been from the beginning of wsl to now In like lat late last year Or maybe early last year they went through there was like a hack or whatever you can get working So that you could actually install a desktop environment And gooey applications and stuff, but that was it was and I did it. I It was not great It was definitely hacky But now Apparently official linux gooey support is coming to windows 10 and wsl So if you're a developer and you're forced to use the devil that is windows and but you want to be able to use to do Linux development on your windows computer Uh gooey applications are now coming there. I'm not sure In terms of like existing applications, I'm not sure how that why like why But like if you're developing gooey applications for linux, but you don't want to have to actually have a linux install This would be actually really cool. Um I I think That wsl has been way more successful and popular Than I ever thought it was going to be I thought that like I mean If you're gonna develop for linux Just use linux. That was my argument when this first came out, but I'm positive that um More people use it than what I thought did because I mean it seems to be very popular amongst a lot of people so um Why that is I'm not I still can't get my head around it, but this seems to be the a natural evolution to This becoming actually pretty good and pretty easy to use Yeah, I see for I see for like at home people You know like small, you know solo devs When they're trying to you know, like let's say you're making a game or a program to at least Not have to have a dedicated like machine to like, you know test your linux builds on or You know have to like do something weird like where you dual boot and you have to like switch between them and stuff like that Like I or or even I mean you can't really Especially if you're gonna make a game But even a program trying to test performance and everything in a virtual like machine or a virtual environment. It's pretty difficult so I see that's being beneficial to those but You know in the case that you are going to be deploying your build on everything including linux Why aren't you developing on linux in the first place, but um For one before I forget I'm gonna go ahead and say I forgive you for sending me a verge like I clicked on the verge and I was like, oh This is the one site where they can get their ads through. I don't know why but cute browser on the verge Their ads just sneak in past the ad block Yeah, I know I've reported a lot of ads to you block origin on the verge too, but It's my favorite tech news site. That's just covers like general news. It's I think it's mostly nostalgia because I've been following them since all the guys were at end gadget. So Yeah Like I said, it's mostly nostalgia. There was a time period there where they got really culturally culture Cultury where they they kind of divested themselves of gadgets and stuff and started talking about I don't know like american culture and it was really weird. So I stopped calling them. Yeah, you know, it's whatever Yeah, I mean, they're a good service. It's just every time I go there I'm like, how do you guys always sneak your ads through to me? I shouldn't be seeing these but Like I mean windows 10 in general like the thing that that I don't really understand Is there are so many people out there that talk about how the linux kernels already bloated And the people that talk about that like how how do those people not spend their time talking about the fact that windows 10 Also comes with the linux kernel in it like it's already windows 10. It's already bloated But now it's got the linux kernel We like two linux kernels shipped on this Linux within linux sounds like a good idea Yeah, I don't know. Um, yeah, so that's the wsl thing. I don't know Like when I first it was like when I first started the youtube channel that I went through and tried wsl and did that hacky thing I don't think I'm interested enough in it now to go through and install windows again Just so I can try wsl so If you uh, if you use wsl and you have a good user reason to use it Leave a comment in the comment section below because I'm definitely interested to find somebody who goes through and use it Because I'm sure like I said, it's way more popular than I ever thought it was going to be so All right, moving on to the main topic. This is my topic for the week Now I've talked a lot about firefox on the channel and a lot of the linux Like podcaster, whatever's talk about mazilla and fodder fox quite a lot But the question I have is can firefox be relevant again? And I think that I'm going to be in a lot of trouble with this pot with this uh question because The word relevant is definitely going to be something that's very subjective, right? So, uh It depends on what you my my answer to my own question is depends on what you you know You mean by relevant, but what do you think? Can can firefox be uh firefox of the past again? um I honestly don't know because the the thing about firefox is it never A lot of the people will talk about firefox and We'll say hey, it just needs like really everyone the only gripe that people used to have with firefox is it didn't have the market share that it should have It should have been bigger. I mean it it's always been a Very good competitor, but it's just never had the market share around it but the same people like five years ago that were talking about that because of microsoft or microsoft what am I talking about mazilla's sort of um Attitude here recently are the same ones like leaving it like if you're gonna complain about it not having market share And then leave it because they're making decisions that you don't agree with I I don't really understand that but also at the same time I think that mazilla could easily do a 180 and start really pleasing the community Do I think it'll happen? maybe Maybe I think it's a big maybe yeah so The reason why I brought up the word relevant when I first started talking about this was I think the idea of them having market share comparing to like google chrome is a pipe dream is never gonna happen um If market share is what firefox cares about and what people who care about firefox care about It's just never gonna happen. It's the same reason Why when people say can linux go mainstream? I was like no, of course not. It's never gonna have 90 percent market share At least not in our lives times. It's not gonna happen uh but if you Pair it on your expectations just a little bit And ask the real question is can can firefox survive and be Uh Feasible to continue to be maintained like people still use it and there's still enough interest in it that it has developers who can Continue to develop it. My answer to that is yes, of course it can Uh linux survives with two or three percent market share firefox can too. What what mazilla needs is less mazilla in the yeah in in the equation they need to stop Running mazilla like it's a gigantic corporation like I their CEO or whatever earns like three or four million dollars a year And like their only income source the only source of income they have is 400 million dollars they get from Google every like decade and they eat through that by hiring 400 people to work on one product basically one product Because I mean nobody mazilla has other products Nobody knows what they are And nobody uses them So they hire 400 people or whatever to I I mean I'm pulling these numbers out of my ass So I'm assuming I I read somewhere that the exact number. I think it's like 350 people or something And they they've paired that down over the years and they pay their their executive teams millions of dollars a year So they're running this browser that makes no money. I mean it makes no money They're paying all these people to develop one software product And it's the dumbest organization in the history of organizations Google's stupid enough to pay them 400 million dollars That money should last them from here till 2100 You know because it doesn't take 300 people to To develop a browser. I mean I'm I'm I'm coming across like I I'm Bemoaning these the fact that these people have jobs, right? And I can I'm happy that the people at mazilla have jobs I'm sure they're all wonderful people, but they need to get jobs elsewhere Because it doesn't take that many people to run a browser. It just doesn't I mean I'd be interesting Interested to know how many people work on google chrome because I mean it may be maybe it's 400 people, but google has a ton of money Google chrome makes money. You know It also has users right in terms of like real Millions and millions and millions billions of users So it's just Well, they're playing ball like the trying to compare the two It's like I mean google is playing a whole different game like they can throw they can afford to throw away millions of dollars On devs to develop stuff like they just can't they they have the money mozilla on the other hand 400 million dollars. I mean you just don't You just don't need it and firefox is a good product now and if they were to To be honest if they would stop playing the corporate game of you know trying to um increase people like using firefox by making Decisions that get you know public like what they're trying to do is essentially be a really good corporation So people like them they make public decisions that that attract people if they would stop trying to play that ball game and just Save money and just make a focus on just making a good browser Do your own thing it'd be a quiet Quiet organization do your own thing It'd be fine. I I think a lot of people would instantly like come back to firefox people who have left Just because of that decision Yeah, I agree. I I mean i'm just Because you're right that they're They do seem to run their blog or whatever in their social media accounts as if they're trying to make as big a splash as possible to get attention And instead of saying hey, you want to here's a browser It's almost as good as google chrome, but it doesn't sell all of your information to everybody Use our browser. It's really good That's how that's that's what they should be doing instead They're writing blog posts and social media posts to make as big a splash in every political situation as possible You know and and that's not the That just makes people think that your browser is terrible. So you have to do these other things in order to get attention Exactly and see that's my whole point is when you set it there You're like your firefox isn't as good as chrome if I think everybody here would agree even if it didn't happen overnight But if if mozilla would stop focusing on trying to make these big splashes Like immediately people would start to notice hey They're they're not being as active on social media because they're spending the proper time and effort To make a good browser And eventually people will wait for it to be as good or even better than chrome Happily wait as long as your company is not Or organizations not wasting money trying to make a big splash on social media trying to get involved in a whole bunch of other crap that you don't You're a browser Nobody needs your You know public displays of what you care about like just Focus on making a good browser like I don't know like I feel like google like as a parent company will do more of what mozilla is trying to do Um like on their own brand where chrome. It's just marketed as a browser a browser. Yeah I think we got a little bit away from the question but Firefox I think like I said like I said before it has a mozilla problem It doesn't have a firefox problem if if The best open source I mean for example, I mean There are not a lot of examples of mainstream open source projects out there But one really good example is obs and we're using it right now, right? It's mainstream enough that almost everybody who wants to go through and stream on the internet uses it right and They're an opens it's open source software. I mean it's a hundred percent open source under I don't know what license, but it's open source, right? And it's very popular. It's free to use It's free isn't freedom as well and I would challenge anyone That's just like a normie to tell me who the the CEO or whatever. I mean even if they have a cd. Oh, I don't know, you know of obs is I bet you nobody knows I mean, I'm sure that I said that the other day about something else And somebody was like, well, I know what it is like well, so I can't say nobody knows But I bet you the vast majority of people have no clue who the executive board of obs is if there even is one Yeah, I have no idea because you know what obs is is just focusing on making obs They don't give a crap about politics. They don't give a crap about you know Their brand image like yeah obs makes money by bringing in corporate sponsors, but You'd never know it They have the same monetary strategy as firefox But those brands aren't getting Any recognition for being brand sponsors like I couldn't even tell you who they are like I know like I'm pretty sure like microsoft and Oracle and google they all support obs to some degree Because it's kind of like the it's kind of like the free software foundation But when firefox gets their cash handout from google Everybody knows because firefox jumps up and down and say hey look at us. We got all this money. It's really cool here here. Let's uh, let's um Pay our ceo a million more dollars a year. Let's just gonna be fantastic. We got all this money It's gonna be perfectly fine. Our browser is great. I mean nobody loses it. But who cares we got all this money It's fantastic. We're jumping around in mattresses of money it's I mean I mean just the comparison between the two companies. I mean obviously they're making two different types of software and one's really popular and one's not but I have a feeling that firefox would actually be more Uh more popular it'd be less controversial It would be uh more financially sound if they just backed I'm not even saying get rid of the google money. I mean like by all means Sucker google out of as much money as you possibly can just keep that money keep rolling But then invest it in making the best damn browser you can and get away from Doing everything that mozilla seems to be happy to continue to do like so to to Answer the question of can uh firefox be relevant again. I think the simple and short answer is Yes as relevant as it was before If mozilla is willing to stop doing what they're doing now to try and get attention And they could just post one blog article and be like hey, so we're going to stop what are doing What we're doing. We're going to focus on our finances and focus on Bringing costs down and making sure that the browser only gets better and it's our only focus Yeah, it's just true. I mean even if you ignore the political stuff that they do They seem to be too focused on things that are outside the browser And and a lot of them seem to be like mad schemes to make money So the the latest example is this vpn that they're doing that nobody's going to use I mean nobody's going to use a vpn made by by By mozilla because mozilla is not actually making a vpn If mozilla was actually making a vpn that's something that quite a few people would be interested in But basically what they've done is taken a third party service and slapped their name on it. Yep And at which case just go use that service Yeah, there's no reason to I mean It's not as if mozilla is going to get all this money because they're going to have to Give the vast majority of that money to that company. So I mean At one point they were putting ads on the the new tab page That was another scheme and it pissed everybody off, you know, they keep coming up with these alternative kind of Revenue ink, you know revenue stream Things to try to make money to get away from the google thing And none of them work Yeah The reason why they're so worried about having to figure out how to make money is because they employ too many people And they pay their executive. I mean even if you're going to employ that many people Which is fine. I don't think that they necessarily need that many people to do a browser Especially a browser that makes again, no money You know, even even if they're going to employ that many people they don't need them to Spend that much money on their executive team because they're not a big corporation I mean, there are Much bigger corporations out there that actually make a lot of money that don't pay their executive team that much money I mean, I mean, that's just that's a true fact so it's just it's it's every time they're Their uh, accountability Thing comes out and it tells how much money they've been spending on their executive team It just blows my mind and I understand that I've kind of gotten focused on the money aspect but I think that that's the the biggest problem I have with with Mozilla itself is that they don't know how to spend money that because that 400 million dollars should last them for a long time but more They just put it in the wrong places. They're they're paying their Executive teams and then they're not it doesn't feel like they're investing in the the browser itself I'm sure they are but for me The experience of using firefox in the last Year or two has gotten worse. It's gotten slower. It's gotten Buggier. It's gotten it's it's almost as bad of a memory hog now as it was a few years ago They had fixed it when like firefox 70 came out. They've like fixed the memory leak that had been there for 10 years and they fixed it and now it's it feels like it's back Because every tab now takes like up like a gigabyte. I did a screenshot in a video the other day and I was like using nine gigabytes of My available ram and somebody commented along like are you using nine gigabytes of ram? What are you doing? I'm like, oh, I have firefox open. That's the reason why It's the dumbest thing. It's not as if like I have like 30 tabs open like I have five six seven tabs open. That's all I have I bet you if I look right now, I'm probably using six or seven gigabytes of ram just firefox. Yeah OBS doesn't even take that much ram Yeah, you're recording video and audio. Come on. I mean it's just I mean Make a good browser people Well, I think you hit you hit the nail on the head with they They're the way they spend money is completely The problem because they're in this sort of weird paradox where they're making 400 million dollars and that's essentially almost All if not all of their income like through the year So they're horrified that they're going to lose it So they try and have all these money making schemes where they can match the revenue that they're getting from google Which doesn't work and it only serves to tick off and make users that did use it leave So if they stop being so worried about losing google and would just Learn how to spend the money they get from google from now on and make it last for years Yeah problem solved There's nothing wrong with having a backup plan to win that movie that money goes away Because I'm eventually google is going to say you want to want we no longer care about not being evil We're not going to give you this free money anymore. They're going to eventually say it So there's not anything wrong With saying, you know what, you know, we're having a plan to do this But the the plan is to be user supported. I mean every other open-source software You know that's been successful out there has had knows that the best way to get funding is through their users I mean if you make a good product people are going to give you money now Are you going to make 400 million dollars? Probably not I don't know maybe but I mean probably not but you're going to make something Like have a big gigantic donate button on the front page of mozilla.com You're going to make some cash as long as you've gone through and made a good product. I mean people I mean people are There are eight people out there right now that are giving me money for doing a youtube channel. That's horrible There are people that tip me on honesty I'm telling you like I'm like my videos are not great. They're they're good in my opinion, but Like I'm not even saying mine. I know mine aren't good. So like I like I know I watch yours your videos are good like My my point is if there are eight people out there that will give me money There are definitely 80 people out there. They'll give mozilla money You know, so so it's it's just I don't understand this isn't a hard problem to solve I mean, like I said, yes, maybe maybe you're not going to make 400 million dollars to you know Offset that google money. Maybe you won't you know That and maybe when that that google money goes away and you're only bringing in a hundred million dollars Maybe god for you know, maybe you have to fire some people Maybe you don't have to pay your ceo 3.5 million dollars or whatever it is You know, I mean the the job's lost will obviously be a horrible horrible thing. It always is But it'll be money that you actually earn and it's not A scheme. It's not it's not some kind of like a Ponzi scheme or something that you've It seems so shady, you know, it's really well, I think the sort of like ironic thing about it is They're not getting as much money as they could at all through donations solely because of these money-making schemes that drive people away like people that people still use firefox and just deal with these The crap that they push out to try and make money and The only reason those people aren't donating It's because the money-making schemes as soon as they stop that and change their attitude I feel like those people would be much. I'm one of those people like I don't really use firefox at all solely because They make those decisions and their browser needs it needs more focus. That's it. Yeah, it needs more focus It needs to be better. I mean it just it doesn't needs to be other Fix the problems create a good project Create a good product and people will just give you money I mean, they literally just have some money. I mean, it's it's not it's not a hard problem I mean, maybe we're oversimplifying it but Like I said people give Money to patreon they give money through PayPal all the times to Projects that aren't even anywhere close to being as good or as essential as firefox. So firefox could obviously do this I mean, it's it just blows my mind that they don't all right, so that was a Very passionate discussion about that. All right. Yes, it was. Uh, let's go ahead and jump into the apps of the week Real quick. Uh, tyler. What what is your app of the week this year? This is i'm going to Butcher this name, but aloha mora. I believe is how you're supposed to say it. It's aloha mora aloha mora. It's from harry potter, bro Oh, okay I should probably know that I don't know if you can tell but i'm a harry potter fan. I got the harry potter stuff behind me Yeah, I got that and as somebody who has all of the books in their house and seen all the movies read all the books I should have known that. I mean their picture is a wizard. So i'm just Oh, oh gosh. Well, um, it is a fantastic password manager. It's really good. Um, you can get it on You know other distributions of linux, but it's you know, it comes with the or comes in the elementary os app store and I believe it's one of their like featured apps If it wasn't this week, I think it was last week, but um, it I really liked it It was super simple to use not complicated encrypted and I just Overall, I found it to be very easy to use and like a password manager should be just just easy um The one thing that I will say is is apparently they are working on a feature to be able to like easily back up All of your passwords and transfer them between computers Um, but right now that hasn't been implemented. So that is one thing to keep in mind Okay. Yeah, I don't think this would probably get me to switch away from bit warden, but it looks cool. Um, obviously I like the name so Yeah, if you already use something like bit bit warden's a really good service. So and and product in general, so I don't I'm not necessarily saying hey, you need to switch your password manager But this is one if you don't already use one I find extremely good because I normally use pass just the simple like pass for arch or I mean Anyway, linux in general, but um on elementary os. I gave it a try and I was like, hey, this is this is really nice. I like it Um, but it there's a lot of features where if you use a password manager already You're probably used to that aren't in there because it's designed to be a very simple password manager Okay, all right. So my pick for this week is called yt fzf so basically this is a fuzzy finder for youtube stuff where you can You can download this in your terminal and uh use it in the way that it's meant to be used and it will go through and Search for whatever you're searching for and then play it in mpv mpv so you can go through and Just search for specific videos if you want and then you can play that video Or there's a way you can go through and like loop a whole bunch of so I think you can search for I don't know at shiren or something and it would go through and play a selection of his videos Just like as a shuffle thing and you can also do it just as audio in the background So, um, it's really cool if if you play a lot of stuff on youtube, but you don't want to actually, you know Use youtube you can go through and use this in your terminal and it will go through and use now It does have some dependencies. Like I said it uses um mpv mpv I always get them except with mpd But it's mpv to play the videos and uh, obviously you have to have fzf installed as well, so If you if you don't know what fzf is fzf is is a fuzzy finder basically what that means is it It's kind of like auto suggests like in a browser or something like that only it's you know in your terminal So it's really cool. Um, obviously it's free and open source and uh, it has but it's uh actively updated So this isn't something that's been abandoned or anything. So it's really cool Yeah, um, I I gave it a look it seems really nice it seems like a lot of people like who are Probably Used to just using youtube dl something. They definitely need to check out like it's a it's a pretty cool little thing Uh, I gave it a download So i'm gonna be using it. Yeah, it's really good. So and and yeah, I have it set up on a key binding. So, um I want to try to see if I can figure out how to get it to work in rofi. That'd be really cool Um, but that's something that i'm gonna have to you know figure out on my own Um, anyway, so sounds like a future video to me. It does but it's gonna have to be something like said I'm not sure where I'd even I don't know Yeah, like i'm thinking about it in the back of my mind like how would I do about doing this? It's I'm sure it's possible. Um, because you can pretty much pipe anything into rofi or d menu. So Or anything into yeah, whatever. Anyway, so that is it for us this time. Uh our topic for uh next week is uh automatic updates on linux good or bad That is our topic for next week. Uh, you make sure you follow us on Twitter Facebook all that stuff patreon.com. So next cast and uh, we'll see you next week See you