 Hardback's channel, Astrodesign's taking over here today, so I hope you guys don't mind. I'm Terry Harada with Astrodesign, CEO of the United States branch for Astrodesign. And we have a bunch of exciting products that we're going to showcase for you today. One is what you see right now is our 8K 120Hz AB4815 camera. This camera head is 8K 120Hz, 12G quad out. Actually we can do 812G STI out and is currently being used in Levi's Stadium with 49ers. So we recently installed a five camera array replay system in Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. So we're very excited for the upcoming NFL season and we hope to bring you some gorgeous pictures and hopefully overturn some football calls that the refs would call. So right there in Levi's Stadium is right next to your office or? Yeah, so Levi's is fortunately like five minutes away from my location here. Luckily we have a partnership with Foxconn Industrial Internet and they helped us kind of introduce us to the 49ers and they're one of my longtime favorite teams. So I'm happy to help the team out with brand new technology. This is a cutting edge. There's nowhere else in the world where you can get 8K 120Hz camera, let alone in a permanent stadium fixture. So we're super excited about our recent installation in Levi's Stadium. And I've seen the news that you're launching a micro four thirds 8K camera. This is exciting because it's what is the sensor on the one that you just showing there? And is that like a full frame or? So this the sensor that we have on this AB4815 is a secret. I can't tell you, but the sensor that that is coming in on the 8K 30 camera, the small cube camera that we have coming out, that's actually made by Bosma Technologies. And that is using a similar sensor to what the the sharp micro four thirds camera was going to be. That unfortunately got delayed a little bit from my understanding. So sensor is, I believe it's sharp. So nice. So I mean, the specialty of Astro design is you are years ahead of everybody else, right? You are showing the technology of the future all the time, right? You're always trying to, you're like working with the industry implementing the next standards. We had Astro work on the cutting edge of digital video. And we can kind of show you our history a little bit and it might make a little bit more sense on why we kind of gravitated towards this 8K resolution way back before anyone else started this. We launched the very first 8K camera head back in 2013, actually at NAB in 2013. And that was an 8K 60 cube camera that we launched. And so we've been working on 8K for quite some time now. It's already 2021, believe it or not. So we've been working on this technology for a good portion of seven years, seven, eight years now. And in conjunction with great partners such as like NHK over in Japan, who's really a driving force in this super high resolution of 8K that we were enjoying today. So yeah. All right. I'm just going to try to screen share for a second the video I did with your colleague or I think it was this one right there. Yeah. There you have it. So when you're talking about, this was 2013. There it is. Yes. Our cube camera. So I believe you were talking with Ishii Sun on the camera system. So yeah, that was back when 8K first kind of trickled into everyone's kind of mindset 2013. So this is actually being a maturing technology. So it's not anything that's super brand new for us, but rather a matured technology that we've kind of honed in on and identified major hurdles in data transfer speed and just data management. And we've overcome those hurdles with the supporting products. So we're ready to go with 8K. If you need an 8K ecosystem, we at Astro Design can provide you a closed from capture all the way to recording to display a solution. So you're one stop shop for anything 8K, especially if you're attacking something super high end. We love that. So for example, at the Levi Stadium, there'll be five 8K cameras. Yeah, it's amazing. Is there anything like they will, because they only broadcasting in 4K, aren't they? Yeah. So we we've partnered up with Evertz on this one. And we're able to actually send those live stream of 8K straight up into the control room, where we break that signal down that 812 G SDI signal gets broken down through Astro Design conversion. And we actually broke it down to 16 3 G SDI BNC outputs so that the Evertz Dreamcatcher can ingest and provide a replay system. So we really introduced something very new into an older existing workflow. And it works flawlessly. So we're thrilled that everything's up and running. We got everything up and running last year. And we're excited to really push the system this year, since we had some opportunities taken away from us due to the pandemic. But we expect to see some great footage coming out of this camera head, moving forward in this next next football season. So we're excited. Does a live multi-camera system like enable some kind of a crop? So the producer has freedom of cropping in the 4K wherever they want it to be, like in real time? Yeah, Nick, that's perfect. That's exactly what the system is going to be doing. We're going to be trained on both the goal line and sidelines and be able to digitally extract an image from that full frame 8K image and really hone in and get a really good picture that's not going to be pixelated if you digitally zoom in on the action. I think you see that today with sports replays when you're really kind of trying to zoom in and get a really close image, your one skipping frames, the action seems kind of kind of skippy, I have to say a word, and also digitally pixelated. Now with 8K technology, you do the same digital zoom, you're going to get a clear image. And because we're running at 120 Hz per second instead of 60 Hz, we're going to catch an extra step with the image frame itself. So you're looking at a slow motion, high digitally, being able to digitally extract a very quality image and really kind of see everything that happens. So we'll be able to see logos on shoes and stuff like that. So it's going to be pretty cool. And here's an article at newsshooter.com about your Bosma G1 8K Micro Four Thirds camera. This camera is super exciting. So this camera is actually made by Bosma. Bosma is a company that specialized in like telescope lenses and stuff way back when and they've kind of grown their business to where they wanted to provide an 8K camera at an affordable price point. I don't have the exact MSRP price yet, but that's coming. But we're allowed to provide this Bosma camera to all of our customers now, not only in Asia, but also here in the United States. So if there's any desire to test this Bosma camera, please send me an inquiry and I'd be happy to vet and see what we can do for you guys. The very cool thing about this camera is that it's going to be able to stream out of the camera head directly. So there's an ethernet port. We also are going to have to supply this with an accessory that allows you to connect to a 5G network and live stream directly out of the camera. So pretty amazing, small camera. This is an 8K 30p camera head. So hopefully people like you, Nick, will be able to pick this up and start utilizing it in your own productions. Yeah, because right now I'm on my Micro Four Thirds camera. I'm connecting with a Camelink 4K. I don't know how smooth it gets on the system, but I've always been a big fan of well, there's this pretty much only Japan making cameras that anyone want to use, right? I'm joking a little bit, but I mean, it's like all the tech, all the camera tech, all the best, like kind of like sensor stuff and all the optics, the expertise in optics. And it's always out of Japan and your company is headquartered in Japan, right? So you partner with all these companies. You partner with Panas. I'm just guessing here. I don't know if it's public or not, but you probably partner with Panasonic, Sony, everybody. We have friends in all those companies. So yeah, a lot of people do come to us for some consulting needs and so forth and sometimes some design work and we're happy to field those inquiries and see what we can do for everyone. So a lot of the companies do, I like to call ourselves more of a background company where we work in the background and we don't take much of the flair for a lot of the things that we do, but it's something that we're definitely capable of is helping and consulting as well as doing a design work and so forth. All right. So it goes from just being what's it called enabling the technology together with the manufacturers to actually shipping solutions. For example, when you partner with the Levi Stadium and like it's the whole range you do. Yes, we can do it all. So any difficult video challenge that you may have Astro Design is willing to listen and see what we can do, especially when it comes to the 8K space. We launched the Tamazon workstation that Nick, you saw a couple years back at CES that was doing a live 8K raw video editing and so we have all the supporting products that you can think of. We can do it in-house. So it's an amazing company. And right here you sent me another little clip that you are filming of another thing that's happening because you're always involved also back in 2013. I saw you show 8K display technology also and the display week 2021. So you're very much involved with all the display companies? Yeah, so we do make our own in-house displays as well. These displays are high-end displays. So what you're seeing right here is our DM3430. This is a 4K OLED display. It goes up to 500 nits and this is more of a 4K display. So design really more for kind of monitoring and onset type of a 4K quick reference type of a deal. But really, really high quality on this. We are introducing 23.98 and 24p support on this display. So that should be ready pretty soon. But as of now it's a 4K 60 type of a display capable of HDR and all the good stuff that you have right now. But definitely more of a broadcast solution type of a display. That's the market of OLEDs but also LCDs has been booming in this past strange year where people are just enjoying better and better quality TVs and they're buying like crazy, like never before, they're buying all these TVs. So there's quite a lot of enjoyment out there of people enjoying their OLED TVs, right? Oh yeah, tech, the colors and stuff. The color representation now, the pixels are getting higher quality for sure. I think there's a huge focus on making pixels a better color and of true work, just representation of what the creator's intent was. So we're happy to support all of the color gamuts that are out there right now and really focus on like the DCI and the color format. So we can do all of that as well. And you've been working on the LCD stuff a lot also. So this particular monitor is an OLED but we also do have an LCD 8K display coming out in November and that will be a LCD display that can do full frame 8K and it'll have a thousand nit capability on that LCD. So we really, at Astra, we develop all these products to kind of fulfill our own needs. So we strive for the highest quality we can possibly do in all of our products. So when it comes to our own enclosed ecosystem, I can guarantee you the images are just jaw-droppingly gorgeous. Nice. That's awesome. And maybe Jawad, you want to jump in and talk a little bit about some of the latest stuff that you're doing. You're working marketing, right? Yeah. So first of all, I would like to thank you very much for inviting us on this meeting. My name is Jawad and I'm the sales manager of Astro Design. And so what I primarily take care of is the test and measurement side of the business. And this is done through interacting with both new and current customers that we work with and exploring the best solutions for their audio visual needs. Our test solutions today are mainly HDMI certified video generators and analyzers, which are in fact used by the most reputable corporations that you can think of worldwide on their consumer electronics. The service that I personally love to provide is listening to the needs of our customers and ultimately delivering the solution that will fit their current and future needs, especially with HDMI 2.1 being the new and still developing technology. So what you see in front of you that Terry has is our VA847 and this would be our HDMI 2.1 protocol analyzer. And it's used for testing both sync devices, source devices, as well as repeater devices. So with HDMI 2.1 still being a still developing technology, we are beginning to see more traction in the market and accordingly we would like to provide the test tools to support that interface. All right, because right there in the Silicon Valley there's a lot of tech companies that are just doing crazy amazing tech, right? And they need your gear to tune their devices and their future releases and everything and to make sure everything displays correctly and works correctly and everything. Yeah, so we have a signal generation and the analyzer side of the whole HDMI ecosystem. So we are able to test a lot of the new functions and features that HDMI 2.1 is launching. One is the capability of 8K. I mean that's brand new, right? 48 gigabits per second over an HDMI cable. We can handle that with our signal generator and our protocol analyzer. On top of that, you know, everyone's getting excited over features such as ERC and variable refresh rate and dynamic metadata HDR. These are test items that we can help anyone kind of develop their HDMI 2.1, HDMI 2.0, HDMI 1.4 products for one quality assurance, two development and just three research really. You know, if you're wanting to expand into the newest video interfaces like HDMI 2.1, we can support you from source to sync. And from this prowess is kind of how we developed our 8K technology. It kind of comes from our ability to generate whatever video signal that we need to out of a powerful signal generator such as this VG879. So yeah, like I said before, from development all the way to the end product and to quality assurance, we have test tools here at Astro that are typically not seen by anyone except for the engineers that work, you know, with these interfaces and these projects. So, but we do everything with the digital video signal. And so you're basically fully involved and fully supported on the whole HDMI 2.1 sphere of our technology which is still it's been launched two, three years, but it's like pretty much like the thing that people want to have when they buy a new TV and stuff. You know, yeah. And, you know, we want to make sure everything works, you know, and kind of handshakes correctly so that when you are at home and you have like an AV receiver and you have a brand new PlayStation 5 or Xbox and you want to, you know, get the most out of those devices, well, you plug this HDMI cable in and, you know, magically things work, right? Well, there's a lot of work happening on the back end with testing and making sure this interoperability can happen and be flawless. So we've been really kind of involved with the HDMI forum itself to, you know, when we're talking about testing of the standard. All of our devices have compliance test capabilities with HDMI 2.1 as well as HDMI 2.0 and we can also test HDMI 1.4 even. So really anything with HDMI, you can come to us as an expert and rest assured that we'll be able to give you the proper information that you need. We can see all the packet data that's being sent over the HDMI link. We can look in real time at the DDC line and we can even test CC commands and make sure that the devices interact as they would. So, you know, the TVs that you have at home, the whole HDMI ecosystem itself, all of that has stringent tests in order to pass and be able to say you have HDMI capable devices. So we work hand in hand with, one, the manufacturers to the forum and three end users themselves who are, you know, maybe having an issue such as like cable makers and so forth that are having issues kind of, you know, testing their cables on the protocol level. We can help with that as well. So, you know, as cool as 8K is really the backbone is our test and measurement solutions that we have to offer. And I think that's kind of like I said behind the scenes type of a happening that happens with your products that you don't realize, you know, there's a ton of work going into it to make sure, you know, whatever you plug into simply magically works as it should. And so, we're thrilled to work with all of these companies and make sure that the HDMI ecosystem, you know, works as intended. So a lot of us folks tend to take all of this for granted, but as Terry said, there is a lot of back in development work that's been going on. So essentially any technology that has the HDMI interface will necessitate HDMI test equipment. So the sole reason is because without the test equipment, a consumer's product will not be working as it should. All right. And even though, as far as I understand, a lot of the hardware gets manufactured over in Asia, right? But in the Silicon Valley, there's mind-blowingly awesome companies like I'll just mention a few. I don't know if they work up, they probably work with you, but let's say the companies that make 3D graphics and game stuff and they want, maybe they're even working on cloud gaming and they want it to work perfectly smooth, low lag, low latency. One of the new things with the HDMI 2.1 is the aspect that works well for the gaming and stuff like that, right? So they must be, I guess, super busy trying to be compatible with everything. And they need your, at least one of your machines in their building, right, but they're doing the R&D? Yeah, it'd be pretty safe to assume that you'd find an astro design product in every major corporation that's doing display testing and doing kind of display work, you know, whether it be source or sync device, because you need a quality golden sample signal to be assured of what your device is doing or not doing. And we provide that signal for companies to use and test and make sure that their products are working correctly. So yeah. All right. Maybe you can give a little bit more of an insight without telling exactly what scenarios are in play, but let's say what kind of awesome projects are being developed with your gear over there in the Silicon Valley? What kind of awesome projects? Without saying what's happening in like two or three years in the future, but like just, I guess all these companies want to get involved in branding new TVs that they want to sell maybe, or they want to do like just like gain consoles and all these things. They are like, you also working in with getting the source from the HD 12.1 device and then like. So a lot of our coral offerings and products will leave our customers to kind of let you know what they're working on. You know, there's a fiduciary responsibility with the test equipment manufacturer where we'd love to tell you what they're working on, but we absolutely cannot. So I can assure you that companies are testing HDMI 2.1 to an extent where they make sure everything works properly. And we see a lot of that through just the testing that we know of. We understand the goals are to make sure everything works in a seamless manner so that, you know, at the consumer level, there's no guesswork or question mark on why isn't it working. We can provide you an answer on why, why there are errors and so forth. So I wish I could tell you more about those projects, Nick, but unfortunately there's a... Just try to dream about imagination. As Ashua has been the first one to show me AK everything, like since 2013, AK displays, AK cameras, and people are a little bit, you know, like in the enthusiast to camera market, they're kind of wondering why they would need AK, but I'm thinking, you know, 8 megapixel. That's really old. I had an 8 megapixel camera back in 2002 or something. So everything above 8 megapixel is pretty much better to watch it on an AK display. So let's get it towards an AK camera also. Yeah, so I think we're seeing a transformation through video, kind of the same steps that we saw when we went from standard definition to high definition. It's just kind of a natural evolution of video itself. And, you know, we have been focused ever since 1977 on providing this signal to customers, and we see this evolution happening now where, you know, we're going through 4K and HDR a lot right now. And people do ask, why 8K? Well, I turn it around and say, why not 8K? Because there's so much with video that we've done all the way up until now that's been kind of traditional full frame use and kind of call that video. With 8K, you have an opportunity now to use that full frame and digitally extract from that full frame what it is you want. So what I like to say is with 8K, especially when we're talking about capturing video, is it's now kind of a set and forget type of an application where you can set your frame as wide as you want and still get all the fidelity and still get all the clean pixels that you would expect if you were focused just on that portion. So with 8K technology and 8K video, you know, I turn it around to the creatives and say, well, here's a new tool. What can you do with it? Show us something new and innovative that you can use within this full frame of video. And, you know, maybe there could be something there. I think 8K video is not only good for its full frame of use, but, you know, being able to use portions of that display, portions of that video, like a quadrant of that video even. And that will still be just as clear as what you're seeing at home right now because 8K is essentially a quadrant of four 4Ks put together. All right. I'm just getting a report that Terry, your sound is a little bit loud. So if you can click next to the mute button and turn off auto adjust meek volume and maybe just set it a little bit lower, your mic, that's what I'm hearing, but it's just a little bit too loud. But yeah. So it's really nice to see your slides. You find that setting? Yeah. Oh, it's just a little bit higher. A little bit higher. How's that 10% percent? Or no, no, no, maybe at like 60% or 70%. Okay, let me turn it off. Right there. Yeah. Are we good? Yeah. Let's try there. Okay. Hopefully it's better. So that is really nice interesting slides. So let's talk what are you showing here? Yeah. So right here, you can see our kind of ecosystem for our 8K. We can go from capture, which is the camera. We can record everything that we shoot with our 8K recorders. Now, these are can be in uncompressed or compressed format. Once you do all that recording, we can do a cross conversion so that we can convert from, you know, eight role in our case of 8K 128 12G SDI and break that down into like a quad 12G. Or we can even take a 12G quad 12G SDI signal and convert that into HDMI 2.1. So you can send an HDMI 2.1 signal up to, you know, all these gorgeous 8K televisions that are being launched right now, which support HDMI 2.1. Or we can go straight into an SDI, you know, more broadcast professional type display as well. So we can do the entire 8K ecosystem here at Astro. And if we can go to the next slide, you know, the applications for this are endless. Anywhere you're using video today really from security, which I think the, you know, Bosma camera solution is going to be a game changer in that regards. You imagine having being able to digitally zoom in on a crowd and pick out, you know, what a person is holding in their hands. We understand privacy is a concern. So when we do this, you know, with our own solution, we actually mask the face of the people so that no privacy is kind of invaded. And that way you're kind of making everyone an avatar almost, but you're still able to capture everything and zoom in on everything. Medical is going to be a huge deal, especially with endoscopic surgery, I believe, with 8K. The image fidelity is just so great that the doctors can see everything that they might not even be able to see with their, with their own eyes with our 8K camera solutions. Amazingly enough, I'm going to, I'm going to say that we're going to see a huge change in the cosmetic world. And the reason why for this is, well, I think we see it a little bit with 4K now, you're starting to see actors becoming more human. And that's simply going to continue with 8K resolution, you're going to see everything. So cosmetics are going to change a little bit. Sports is already kind of self proven with us. We are in Levi's Stadium now. So we're going to enjoy some gorgeous 8K capture in Levi's Stadium this year with football and hopefully that'll spread to other sports and leagues. I know World Cup and Olympics this year will be shot in 8K. So you'll see that face analysis. Once again, that's kind of tied into the security aspect of things. We're looking for partners to help with this so that we can identify objects. And even, you know, the boring stuff that, you know, we don't get to see such as like factory inspections or infrastructure inspections where we take a camera through a tunnel, for instance, and we can look at the tunnel infrastructure and we can identify cracks in that tunnel or cracks in any pipeline or anything like that. So that's something that we're doing. And the finally just cultural preservation, being able to shoot, you know, artifacts in 8K, 3D model it so that you have a full 8K, 3D rendered model of historic cultural artifacts so that we can preserve that for future generations. So really 8K use case, I mean, you imagine it, we can do it. Anything with video today that needs an enhancement can definitely gravitate towards this 8K resolution. So it's an exciting time. We're seeing things slowly kind of bleed over into that realm. And once we do, I feel the reality of video that Uncanny Valley that we're experiencing right now is going to slowly disappear. So we are excited to be at the leading edge and see what people want to do with this technology. Two, three, four years ago, I did a video with NHK, they were talking about that Japan wants, wanted to kind of like skip 4K and just get everything ready to 8K. That was kind of like the vision or something like that. Yeah. How's that going? We kind of followed that vision as well. A lot of our product line was actually developed as 8K first, and then we moved into back into 4K. So like the monitor that we just showcased earlier is kind of a representation of us going from being able to do 8K on a display and then kind of dial it back a little bit and provide a high quality 4K display. Gosh, my office is a mess. I'm sorry, but we think that there's a huge benefit to what we're doing and providing, and it'll be more of an enhancement for what we see today. So when things get better, people are going to start gravitating towards it, and we just want to make video that much better. Nice. I mean, when I was doing that interview with NHK three, four years ago at the IBC in Amsterdam, they were talking about 8K kind of needs 120, because otherwise you get motion blur or something like that. So while 8K 30 is going to be cool and fun, and I guess the first cameras will kind of do 8K 30, the cheaper ones, the micro four thirds and everything, because it's hard for them to just support 8K 120. But if you really want to do it right, you need 120, right? You do need that extra frame rate. And the reasoning is because you have the same item traveling across way more pixels now. So with 8K 60, if we can go back to the 8K 60 120 slide, Joe, I'd couple up. There it is. Go back down. And one more. One more. There you go. So with this image, you can really see, since we're doubling the frames, the runner in this case won't be jumping from one frame to another, which is the problem with when you increase the resolution, you have an object traveling around more pixels. So you need to have that extra frame rate. So that image is kind of similar to what we're used to right now watching 8K, like 4K 60 content or HD 60 content. So the extra frame rate is added benefit that you're capturing more. But it also kind of reduces kind of the uneasy feeling of seeing something step and jump across the screen. So it just kind of allows for a more natural look and feel of what you actually see. With 8K video, it's really, you know, when you watch true 8K video, it on a true 8K display is just jaw droppingly, you know, it's like peering into a window. But, you know, the window is actually clear than what your eyes can see. So it's weird because your eyes will move across the screen and focus on things as you would in real life. So it's almost like being on location, for instance, like you're really there. And it's one of those feelings I can't convey unless you experience it yourself. And then once you experience it, then you understand, oh, this is what it's supposed to be like. So a lot of what's happening right now when you walk into Best Buy and you watch movies and you know, it's simply upscaled 8K content, you're probably not going to get the same feeling that I get watching a true end to end 8K video solution. And I think that's just kind of something that people need to experience. But once people experience it, this video resolution is just going to become a no-brainer. Because there's so many YouTubers who think, ah, I'll just stay on 24 or 30p, right? And I've been insisting, I got over to the Panasonic GH5 and I'm on the G9 now, because they're able to do 4K at 60 and I kind of wanted to believe, and I hope I'm right, that my footage, especially when I'm doing handheld footage and moving around with my steady shot system, that I like to have movements in my camera. And I kind of eliminate the motion blur so my footage is much sharper. Exactly. Just because it's sticky, right? Yes. I think frame rate's a very important thing for clear video. You know, the higher we can go, the better. But the only problem with that is you're increasing the data load of that video quite substantially. So then you're talking about, well, how do we handle this video? And the answer today is, unfortunately, it's compression. But we'd love raw 8K video. The pipeline is getting bigger and bigger. So we need to shove more data through the same pipes right now. So hopefully, you know, with like 5G network technology, that helps quite a bit in alleviating that problem of getting all those bits through those cables. Yeah, but there's also magic happening in codecs, right? I keep seeing all this, and I keep, like, my mind is a little bit blown when I hear how it's possible to actually do 4K and 10, 15 megabit per second, which is what Netflix is doing, and Amazon Prime is doing, and YouTube is doing all these low bit rates, and I guess they're using H265, and maybe VP9, or maybe even talk about AV1. Are you involved in all this stuff? So the standardization process is kind of a conglomerate of a bunch of, you know, top executives that come together and decide, you know, what steps should be what, and it's the same thing that we experience with HDMI, how we kind of have a working group that kind of works and defines these standards. You know, we are not a part of a lot of those working groups, because there's a lot of genius people out there that we let define. However, we do go off the page and do our own standardization, you know, to solve problems that simply don't exist yet. So with 8K, 120 hertz, there's actually no standard available. So we developed our own standard based off of a 4K, 2SI, 120, 70 standard, kind of adapted that to our own use case. So we do some off-the-wall stuff here, some non-standardized stuff. As a Kodak, we have gravitated towards HEBC. It's a Grass Valley Kodak that we use, and we find that it's the best quality that we can find for the type of data that we're producing. And so, you know, Kodaks are important, and they're going to evolve. And that's just going to be the natural progression of this video. So what I'm thinking is also one of the big selling points for me many years ago, like 10 years ago, when I was seeing the 4K demos and trade shows, it was always like this seeing your family, at least slideshow photos of family pictures on a 4K display was completely amazing 10 years ago. But now it's completely amazing to see slideshow, like Google photos, slideshow is something like that, because they're all 16 megapixel, they're all like more than 8 megapixel, they're all 24 megapixel. And everybody has that right now, everybody has an 8K camera just for photos. So when people say there's no content, I'm like, hello, we've been taking more than 8 megapixel photos since 2002. So the content is there. And of course, as soon as we get like the smartphones, they're pretty much some of them are even trying to do 8K, like, I don't know if their sensors are like so small, but you know, like, that's the next thing you want to see. When I have a baby, I want to record only 8K, I don't want to do anything in 4K, because it has to be like, you know, like, it has to be like, just like being there. Yeah, no, it really is with 8K video, you know, it really feels like you are there. Important things moving forward are definitely going to be cameras equipped with like global shutters, and so forth, so that a perfect example is the fan on the bottom there, one's taken with global shutter, one is not. And global shutter allows us to capture fast moving images, but still represent that as, you know, you and I would see in person. So camera technology is also going to be evolving to catch up and make sure that we can you know, capture all of these frames. We are using a 33 megapixel sensor. We use most of the full 33 megapixel data. There are edges and so forth that we might throw away, but that's more kind of lensing dependent. And is the same on the Micro Four Thirds announcement that you have? I can't speak on the megapixel capability on that Micro Four Thirds camera, because I simply do not know. So I'm not going to give you guys information that you know, I'm assuming. Because I've been waiting four and a half years or something for the Panasonic GH6 to come out, and everybody was thinking maybe like Panasonic even announced two, three years ago, like they want to do AK in the future, but the question is of course they're doing that and you're doing that for the professionals and for the stuff that goes into the Olympics and stuff like that. But when it's to get consumer, you know, that's a big question because it's not easy to put a 33 megapixel sensor in the Micro Four Thirds. It definitely isn't. There's issues with the hardware itself. Heat dissipation is one huge, huge issue because you're pushing these processors, you know, quite hard to capture all of these images. And I think there's some news out there about heat being an issue with the smaller body cameras. So with our solutions, we make sure that everything is fully vented and can operate. We have a, you know, the sharp AK camcorder has astrodesigned technology inside and that's a kind of a mobile camera, but it definitely isn't that smaller form factor that, you know, people desire and want, which I'm super excited about the Bosma product line offering because then you have something that'll fit in the palm of your hand and is designed to shoot AK video. So as well as stream out directly from that camera head. So I think that's the most amazing thing about that camera is able to stream directly out of the camera, you know, via HDMI 2.1 or Ethernet or that 5G accessories. So yeah, I think it's going to become more compact, more mobile and you're going to see these products kind of move into a price point where it's going to be exciting for people to pick up. And I think you're going to see a lot of creatives find a different way of using this video because you have so much more pixels to work with. People are going to start thinking outside the box when it comes to capturing and that's what I'm most excited seeing is the evolution of the creative side of everything and see how people use these extra pixels because as great as AK is, you probably don't want a full AK frame of my face. It'll probably be too much for a lot of people. So we want to make sure that, you know, you're not using everything, but you can use portions of it. Or if you want to use everything, please use everything. But I think there's a huge creative kind of evolution that's in our new future. I think the big question, you know, when people say AK, who needs that? But I think we totally need it because I am confident we're going to get huge TVs and we're going to get huge, maybe projectors and maybe micro LEDs. It's going to become affordable and hopefully as soon as possible because everybody's talking about it. Are you involved in micro LEDs? Or like, you know, you want to cover, like everybody has a wall at home, like hopefully they're living in a home that has a big wall and it needs to be, the whole wall needs to be a display and that needs to be in every home. There are definitely solutions out there right now. You know, I'm not going to name names because then it'll seem like I'm playing favoritism. But there are solutions like that available. We don't work on the actual, you know, micro LED or OLED portion of the display, but we'll work on sending the proper signal to make those displays light up and work as they're intended. So we can test a lot of those huge walls with our signal generator product, for instance. And it's just, yeah, going to be exciting to see what people do with, you know, the current technologies that are out there. All right. I think it's very exciting. And of course, there's a lot of work that can be done to improve 4K still, especially considering that so many people are filming their babies with their little phones and stuff. And if one thinks how tiny that sensor is when people want to make so thin phones, there's so much more they could do. If they get something a little bit bigger, I think there is so much more that they can do. But there's so many like marketing people in all these phone companies and saying, you know, they're putting their big posters and saying, shot on this company's phone and stuff. But I want to see everybody adopt better sensors and better, like all the consumers getting involved, not only that's the big pros. Yeah, that's tough, right? Because you're talking about a prosumer consumer world. And there are different different targets and different needs for each group. So we'd like to support the prosumer and professional group with professional grade equipment like this camera. And, you know, you know, the consumer group has a different target and, you know, different use case and specifically different price point that they're used to and expect. So, you know, the industry is wide and we can help cover everyone. But we do like to focus on the professional and prosumer side of video. So you're enabling an 8K drone? Yeah, we were able to do 8K drone captures as well. Bosma had done a couple of tests with drones as well. Hopefully, you know, we'll start to see more and more 8K nature footage, I think, and just see the world in more detail without getting blocky pixels. That's the whole point of 8K is to really see better than what you can see. So you end up focusing on what you want to focus on a display, which is super cool. And I guess it all gives more work for the AI because now the AI, I'm thinking the AI has so much bandwidth, even in 1080 or 4K, to figure out what's there. Like, in theory, the AI could even understand blurry pixelated images, right? But actually, if you give it more pixels, like orders of magnitude more potential, right? Yeah. And, you know, funny you mentioned AI, because we actually have developed a couple AI derived solutions. One is our AI upscaler, which allows us to upscale video from, oh, like a two by two pixel all the way up to 8K. So that's available as a plugin for DaVinci Resolve and Nuke. And we actually have a free 30 day trial on our AI upscaler. I'll send you the link to that later, Nick, so that you can you can share it to all of your viewers. I think Resolve is an awesome editor, right? That's what I'm using. Yes. And so we developed an open FX AI upscale plugin that's been gaining a lot of traction from a lot of our partners. Is it affordable to pay for it after the 30 days? Yeah, it's it's $2,000 a year annual subscription. So if you're making, you know, video in HD and 4K, but you know, you don't have the hardware to go up to 8K, well, you can upscale all of your current works using our AI upscaler, you know, to accommodate that. Or let's say you have an old legacy logo that's in like HD or or SD even, and you needed a 4K version of that. You can use our upscaler to upscale to like a 4K or HD or 4K or 8K type of a logo resolution if needed. What you see on the screen right now is we've actually also used AI to be able to cut Japanese we call it Kiritashi. And it's to cut a portion of, you know, the full frame 8K and follow like someone that you want. So for instance, like, you know, let's say you had a favorite BTS singer that you wanted to follow around the stage, we have a solution that can follow just that person around the stage with with, you know, production. So that's capable. All right. So you can follow. That'll be auto. So you know, our Tamazon workstation will be able to recognize where that person is on stage and be able to digitally extract. I have a phone call. What a bad timing. All right. Yeah, no problem. Then, yeah, I can just imagine the tons, like a million different ideas people might have what to do with their AI. As soon as you feed the 8K signal to them, I mean, they can, they can, they can maybe for example, no kind of, I guess, the average age of everybody in the room or in the stadium, they can, I don't know, they can, I figure out where people are sitting like that. Yes, they can figure out where people are sitting and who's a big consumer of popcorn and bring them more popcorn. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's an observer world now. So all of that is definitely observable. And, you know, with the increase of all this data, we need to be able to, you know, handle and process in a in a in a fast, reliable way so that we match times of processing that we're used to today. And Nick, you came by, you know, our booth two years ago, and we showcased our Temazon workstation, which was doing that live 8K video video switching with Panasonic's custom HDMI 2.1 switcher chip that we add on display a couple years back. And so we've just kind of evolved from there. We've been kind of doing what Astro does, evolving our own ecosystem and evolving our capabilities. And I know I'm talking in a lot of generalities here, but, you know, if there's ever a need to dive deeper into a project, we're all ears here at Astro Design because we've we've done it from, you know, capture to editing and distribution. So very cool. Yeah, if I'm just going to try just for a second here to also show that you were talking about that was before the strange that was just before the strange time happened and we met in Las Vegas, right? Yes, we usually meet every year in Vegas, but this year we haven't seen each other until the display week is display week. This is what we're doing the video about. And so there you this was talking the title of the video was World's Fastest AK Video Editor Workstation. Amazon AW-AT800. That's correct. At the time it was definitely the fastest. With the Panasonic HDMI 2.1 AK Hub. Yes, that was a HDMI 2.1 switcher, the world's first HDMI 2.1 switcher ever available in the world, although it was an engineer sample. So I guess all the like you can go down a little bit and go visit the guys in the Hollywood and all these editors of because they're all shooting like the ones that really want to be in the forefront, they're shooting the movies in AK and maybe it's they call it a super panavision kind of digital, right? For on-premises solutions, we can definitely help. We do see a huge shift in that group as well to a lot towards a cloud computing. And so they're definitely, you know, they're definitely trying whatever they can to improve their their own workflows themselves. So yeah, we'd be happy to talk with anyone really it doesn't have to be just Hollywood, but you know, it could be anyone. But this workstation is for everyone, if you want to do machine learning, you can do this. If you want to mine crypto, I don't know if you can or not, but you probably could provide about, you know, the horsepower that this this device has. Could you go back to the yeah, this slide there? What does it say 16 terabytes for 55 minutes and uncompressed? I mean, this is a big, big stuff. Yeah, that's just, you know, an example of how much data is needed for that, you know, length of time. And the read-write speed on the Tamazon workstation is kind of what separates itself. We solved the PCI bus exchange issue with the motherboard. So it's a custom motherboard developed in conjunction with a Foxconn technologies. All right. And in that video, there was some interesting presentation here with your partner, it's Panasonic, right? They were showing this chip, because my website is also called armdevice.net. And it's always fascinating to understand what people do with their chips and stuff. I'm running this live stream on my side on the Apple M1 ARM processor. And I'm always, I want to see people, see what people might do by doing custom, like custom ARM solution or something like that. Maybe are you at all thinking in that direction and thinking, Hey, how do we, because I guess maybe you do a lot of stuff on FPGAs or and then you sometimes have, I guess, a bunch of Intel process without trying to get any secrets, right? But I don't know if it's a Windows computer or Linux or something, I guess you do Linux, right? I'm just guessing. And then there's a full x86 in the box and stuff, but maybe you could customize your own chips. So yeah, we are currently developing a couple of custom FPGA test equipment solutions for HDMI 2.1, so that we can help support customers that are looking at doing a VRR variable refresh rate, dynamic HDR metadata. So we do kind of mess with that more for our test and measurement group so that we can have test and measurement solutions available for those that are trying to tackle the newest features of HDMI, for instance. And so that's something that we do. In terms of FPGA-type products, a lot of our test equipment is actually based not on Linux, not on Windows, but on our own OS, so our own self-derived operating system, so that your test equipment from Astro is actually test equipment and not a modified computer. So we feel that's very important in distinguishing ourselves as a test equipment manufacturer. So it might be involved in some kind of embedded architecture, or maybe it's just running on the x86, so I'm just guessing. I don't want to get any secrets, right? I'm just trying to understand. Yeah, a lot of our test solutions are SOC, so the same type of chipsets that you would find in your set-top boxes is how it's kind of tested against. So we gravitate towards the developers that develop the technology first, work with them hand-in-hand, and make sure that we can attack as many of the features that people are wanting to use. And let's not beat around the bush. It's a very difficult thing to do. It's very challenging, and it's a world's first type of development. So as much as we take our regular set-top box, or Firestick, or Chromecast, or whatever you have, and you switch that input, and it just works, that's a result of many, many, many, many, many, many hours of testing and planning and just making sure we're developing everything in the right way. Am I understanding correctly that a lot of the stuff that you do is on FPGAs because you want to be eight years in advance, right? And then maybe it takes a few years for your partners to maybe take that work that you've done, or that architecture, the design, and try to ship a custom SOC that goes on the TV when it ships out. So that's all based on what interface you're working on. It really depends on the application. So we do have some FPGA solutions available, but we also do like to use the actual SOC in a lot of our test equipment so that we are assured what's coming in is what people are reading instead of what's coming in going through a program and then getting spit out chips. So a lot, it's really dependent upon the type of test equipment and type of solution that we're providing. All right. And what are you showing here? Maybe you want to talk to that? Oh, so these are just new AK HDMI 2.1 products that we see coming out in the future. We're seeing a revolution definitely last year with the launch of the PlayStation 5 and the Xbox. And with this new resolution and these new HDR formats that are coming out, don't be surprised to see new set top boxes, updated graphic boards, definitely new televisions and new AV receivers. And the ecosystem is changing. We're at a point where people are going to be able to upgrade and actually see upgrades with the products that they buy. And we're just happy to support all of these products and make sure that they all work. So by the time it gets to your house, you plug it in and it works. And you don't have any weird no sync communication issues that typically used to happen quite a bit. So it's getting better and better. Yeah, it's nice to see an ecosystem of the HDMI ecosystem being just plug and play, don't worry too much. And it just has to work. But there's a lot of challenges people have to kind of know that their cable is capable. And when people buy a game console and it says HDMI 2.1, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to do 8K. But maybe it's whatever they're doing right now is future proof for the PS5.1 or whatever they call it. Whenever all these, you know, like just to support all that stuff. And maybe some of that might come through the cloud. I don't know, because you might need a super computer sometimes to do some of these things. And if it's going to be hard to ship it to consumers. Yeah, so a lot of what happens with the hardware is tried and true before it gets launched into the consumer space, so that they're able to handle all of the feature sets. We're seeing that people are starting to provide a complete solution now for HDMI 2.1. So it won't be very long until you find HDMI 2.1 in your own house. And plugging it into your brand new TV wouldn't surprise me if that's an HDMI 2.1 device. And it's just, like I said, a natural evolution of video. And we're just lucky to be here while it's happening. So you're going to see a huge change. And it's a change for the better. It's going to be that intensive, but it's going to be worth it. So definitely those, I guess, more in Asia manufacturers of these 100 million TVs who hire the numbers that they sell every year, they definitely have a bunch of your, I guess, boxes in their R&D. And also on the quality control testing and everything before they ship the products, maybe they want to test every single TV. Everywhere. You're talking from the development of a brand new product to being on the Factory 4 to doing a final check of a product. Yeah, that's where this test equipment is used. So like I said, we're behind the scenes. And I guarantee you, whatever you're touching right now is probably seen in Astro sometime, provided that it does video, probably has seen an Astro device somewhere along its development and kind of birth cycle. And behind here, we have a picture of space. You even in space, right? You've had the Astro in Astro. So everyone, you know, associates Astro with space just because of the name. Astro actually stands for Astataro, which stands for Let's Take Tomorrow in Japanese. So a little little Astro design trivia for you guys all. But yes, we've actually been in space, you know, back when 4K recording was kind of a brand new, we developed a 4K recorder that can sync up directly to a C500 Canon camera. And luckily, we had one of our recorders go up into space and store some gorgeous Canon footage directly into the recorder. And that was when there was nothing 4K recording available. So we made our own standalone portable 4K recorder. And we sent that up into space. And hopefully we'll see more Astro design products up there. Definitely working on it. It's not easy to get into that space. I'm addicted to watching the Elon Musk rockets go up, you know, like these, they have these amazing live streams and everything. Yeah, really nice, high quality. I don't know if you're, Nick, we need to get in contact with SpaceX. If you can make that happen for me, all they're watching, they're watching, I'm sure they're coming soon. So you know, but what I want to see is, I want to see the Astro 8K camera on the moon and the next two years, like the two or three years, I want to see the 8K footage. That's a goal for me right now. So it's a current work in progress. We'll see, we'll see how that discussion goes. But yeah, it's something that we definitely want to work on and we want to capture, you know, it's just so gorgeous what we capture. We're going to capture Mars. It's just going to be a few years according to SpaceX timeline. I'm hopeful it's happening because we were there as humans, we were there for 40 years ago. And we need to get back and just at least live stream the 8K or at least 4K, but also record everything in 8K. It's just going to be completely insanely different. It's going to be like this Apple TV series, but actually for real, there's this cool for all mankind TV show. So here's another question, somebody's asking, what's the MSRP? Is there any price in that Boscom? What are we talking about, the Bosma camera? I don't have a final MSRP price right now, but I can tell you it's going to be pretty appealing. I'm going to say it's going to be under $10,000 and we'll get a kind of fine tune that, but I can comfortably say it'll be under $10,000 for that 8K 30p camera with live streaming capabilities, which is cool. So I'm still learning more about the camera head itself and hopefully we'll have some cool footage to showcase and Nick, maybe we can get you a demo piece as well. That'd be awesome. I'd love to upgrade my, because actually YouTube supports for 8K as far as I can. So you need to upgrade my YouTube channel. That'd be awesome. That's no problem. I'll put the link and everything so people can, what's it called? I'll put the tag in the corner if you want. It says footage shot on, but it needs to be stabilized. I get on the stabilizer, right? You don't have a stabilized sensor. We'll have to put it on a tripod and make sure it doesn't move at all. But once I get to the moon, it's only a six gravity, I think you don't really, you can shoot handheld, it'll be smooth, right? As far as I'm not a business. It'd be cool to get some floating images around. Yeah. You could even throw the camera up in the air, it'd be smooth. But if you're on the moon, you still have to make sure you catch it. If we're on the ISS, you can let it float around. Oh yeah, you need to catch it. Yeah. All right. Whoa. So, I mean, your slides, there's a huge presentation, is much more, I mean, we have, I mean, it's just, you know, we could go on for hours on each kind of solution that we provide. We just have such a vast amount of solutions available for video. You know, an interesting one that's coming up is going to be like a 12G conversion to IP so that we can support 702110. So conversion boxes like that, you know, stuff unseen really by normal people is what we work on. So we have a bunch of cool stuff, it's vast. So if you have any questions, you know, you're free to reach out to myself or Jawad. And please ask away. We're happy to field questions and happy to make new Astro fans because Astro fans are the best. I think Nick here has supported us for quite some time now. And Charbackx, we appreciate your support. And yeah, it's just been a fun time with us. You know, Nick knows he can come up to me and talk to me about anything. And I usually tell him. So provided that I'm not under NDA, so you know, I still keep all of that separate. So like your job and your colleague's job also in Japan, I guess it must be like the dream of the biggest home theater, high level enthusiast developers. I don't know if there's any better place to work. I don't know how it is. I have no idea, right? But I can imagine you have like the most cutting edge stuff. And it's so many years in front of everybody else. I see some pretty cool stuff. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. So I'm visiting MC for yourself. Yeah, that'd be great. So as soon as I get what's it called, the vaccine passport and what do you call it? I'll be happy to jump to, is it in Tokyo? Yeah, yeah. If you want to come to our private show when we're allowed to have a private show again, we will just ask me. I'll get you a ticket into our office. If you want, I record some footage. Don't publish it before you approve. So I don't film anything secret. Yeah, yeah. Well, our private show is open, you know, to all of our good customers. We typically have it every year in Japan. That's when we showcase all of our cool new items. Here in the United States, if you wanted to see that, my suggestion would be to come visit us at NAB. We're also, we'll be at Infocom this year. So we'll be in Florida in October. So come visit us at NAB at Infocom and we'd be happy to show you not only our AK solutions, but also our test and measurement solutions. And hey, if you needed like an audio loud dysmonitor, hey, we could do that too. I know we had audio issues earlier, but if you needed an audio loud dysmonitor and pretty much anything broadcast, we can do that too. There's one question in the chat. Maybe I can just bring it up right here because you were mentioning that you also partnered with the SHARP. So the solution that's in that SHARP, aka Micro Four Thirds is also an Astra partnership, I guess. It's official you said that, right? So that was more of a SHARP camera idea, but we did work with them with the AK camcorder. So there was a bunch of learnings that they took away from the AK camcorder work that they tried to incorporate in that smaller Micro Four Thirds camera. There are some issues that I can't go into with that camera that potentially delayed its release or even canceled it. I'm not even sure where that's at right now. What I was missing from it is autofocus and IBIS. I always want to see if somebody can figure out a way because it's a huge challenge because as you're saying, there's so much heat you have to manage. Even though it's a Micro Four Thirds, it's not easy to make a stabilized sensor, but that's more like a consumer thing, I guess. And there's a question about, are you going to be at the IBC? IBC, I don't know, I'd have to ask my colleagues in Japan if they're going to be in IBC, but you'll be happy to know this Bosma camera. I have autofocus and continuous autofocus mode in the settings available in the Bosma AK30P camera. In answer to the IBC question, I did talk to one of our colleagues and there are plans for it, but that's going to be handled on our Asia side. So what I can say is that there are plans to attend IBC this year, and I think that's taking place in December. All right. All these conferences, hopefully they all happen soon again because even though it's awesome to do these feature-length interviews over remote connections where we are debugging the echo and everything, it's like a different thing to meet face-to-face. And with my camera, with my Micro Four Thirds, get up close to all these gear, it gives another kind of like just like being their kind of experience. I miss talking to people in person because sometimes you walk around our booth and you'll find something that you never really thought you'd find at our booth that might be of interest to you. And I feel like finding new products has been really difficult. Finding new ideas has been extremely difficult. Going back and reconnecting with your buddies has been easier. But yes, we do miss going out and speaking to people on the show floor and kind of showing things like this camera head in person. So you can really get up and see what this is all about. These are BNCs, by the way, just covered. So yeah, we'd love to see you guys. And we miss that interaction and hopefully NAB and hopefully Infocom this year. We'll get to meet and talk with a bunch of you guys and see what it is people are looking for in the future. Are you working with startups? I'd love to work with startups. If you have a startup and you wanted to tackle a brand new idea that no one's done before, Astro is probably a good place to start. We'd love to entertain and see what we can do. And sometimes we can't do anything and we'll tell you, we can't do that. But sometimes we can. And then we get into a good partnership situation. And now you have an AK capable stadium because of stuff like that. So world's first AK stadium done by Astro Design. Is it okay if I ask, why is all the camera tech only coming from Japan? But is it just hard work and nobody can match the skills? We can make assumptions all day on why that is. But I think a major driving force lately has been the Japanese government themselves wanting to invest and showcase AK technologies as kind of a Japan-driven idea. And really, that launch point was supposed to be last year at the Olympics, which has been shuffled over to next month already pretty soon. But I think a lot of that has to do with just government support and government funding and just really a push and drive for Japan as a country to launch this new resolution to the world. And that was a push that started years back, a decade or so back. And so we're finally seeing the fruits of everyone's labor and kind of going to this target of launching AK as a video resolution available for the world. And it's not just Japan, countries, other countries as well have been deeply involved in trying to get this up and running. I can look at France, for instance, doing the French Open with AK capture and just testing in general with major sports events. It's happening right now, the Roland Garros. Yes. So I a little bit wonder if, for example, the Olympics, is it going to be all the whole event in AK or just like the finals or something like that? Because sometimes it's about just the whole final. Yeah, I can't tell you because I frankly don't know. But I would expect a lot of the major kind of showcases to be shot in AK. For example, back when the World Cup was in Brazil, the opening ceremony, closing ceremony, for instance, and the premier games, that's where AK came into the world, came into use case. So I think it really depends on kind of the vastness of it. I don't know what Japan has in store for us in terms of video in this upcoming month. But whatever is taken will be archived. And whatever is archived that we can enjoy on our displays that we have in our homes today, I guarantee you in the future those archives will come back and we'll be able to see things that we may not have remembered it due to the resolution that we currently are enjoying at home. But in the future, all of these things are being archived in AK. So we'll see a better version of it as we see more and more consumer devices enable AK viewing. Yeah, I think maybe the advantage in Japan compared to other countries is it seems the other countries are saying, ah, 4K is a big enough jump for now and we're not really harrowing too much about the AK stuff. But in Japan is, and I guess, I don't know about the politics, but all the different governments, they keep supporting it. Nobody's like, tell them to get back and just stick with 4K. I think Japan is the only country that has two available AK channels. So they have AK satellite channels, two of them that are actually sending a full frame AK resolution video to homes. And if provided you have an AK-capable TV, you can watch that in your house today, which is amazing. I mean, if they do 4K, 24p Netflix and stuff and at 15 megabits, that means my 100 megabit download that I have right here, it's plenty enough to do AK. In theory, you could do AK on a 100 megabit, right? Yeah. I think we'll start to see more and more solutions come out to have us enjoy AK right in front of us, which is going to be great because the closer you get to those AK displays, the better they get because you see zero pixelation. AK, traditional with tape flown to Japan for NHK. Funny you mentioned that archiving in AK is actually done on tapes. So there is tape storage for AK, believe it or not. So you're not too far off the truth there. And Astro did a lot of work on the UHD TV in 2006. Yes. Super High Vision is definitely what AK is kind of the new, what Japan called, NHK calls Super High Vision as AK. So yes, we've been working hand in hand with NHK from the very beginning. So we consider ourselves the world's experts when it comes to AK resolution technologies. Nice. And hopefully before we land on Mars, then everybody can afford to have AK on the whole wall. Some kind of display tech is going to come out affordable and AK for everybody for the mass market. Hey Nick, the way things are moving right now, you know, it could be by the end of this year where you're going to have a super affordable AK television that you can you can use in your house provided it'll be AK 30, but it's definitely coming. He says UHD TV always was AK. It was always supposed to be. Perpetual. We won't get into the politics of all of this, but I thought this was another conversation. All right. But thanks a lot. Thanks. I don't want to take into too much. Maybe you have some other meetings. No, we can do this all day. So we have a ton of stuff we can talk about. I'm pretty sure, you know, if there's a if there's a particular interest, you want to learn more about something very specific, send it over to Nick. Nick will ping me and we'll discuss on how we can present it to you guys. You know, we're we're thrilled to help, you know, we're helping behind the scenes type of a company. So it'd be interesting to hear what ideas are out there so that we can send those ideas down the line and get people's minds moving and thinking in ways that, you know, traditionally may not have come about. So we'd be happy to talk about anything. And like I said, we have such a vast broadcast camera. This one is broadcast targeted. It's a 12 G SDI output. So definitely a professional video interface on this one. Same with the sharp camcorder that that was also designed as a broadcast camera. Now the Bosma camera, the small cube camera, that is not a broadcast camera. That's more for you to carry around and go take shots and sit in on a tripod do gorgeous AK time lapses that that's what the Bosma cameras for on top of being able to stream out live provided you have the right equipment. You can potentially could have done this live in AK if we wanted to if I had the camera. But when you say stream out live, to me, it sounds like broadcast. Yeah, well, I mean, I guess you could use it as broadcast too. But I think the focus and user focus is more for a prosumer type of a person as opposed to professional broadcast studio. These guys are for and you were talking about the $12 you can scroll back there. There was some talk about less than $10,000 for sure. That's the kind of like what you can say for now. And something like this perpetual if you if you're kind of curious, something like this AK 120, you're looking about $88,000 for this one. All right, so more than $8,000. No, it's $8,000. So 88k. Yes. So yeah, so there's so many topics. It'd be awesome to see more of like the the the the micro four thirds, AK what it looks like. And when you talk about autofocus, I'm always dreaming of a great micro four thirds with face detect autofocus. But that means the sensor has to be designed with a face detect and it's something that I've been waiting for Panasonic to do for the years. For example, and it's always hard to figure out where the, you know, like, that's that's that's for something else. And maybe it'd be great. All of our partners decide on how they want to do that. But we can provide them the tools to develop it. So please, if you can let your partners know that they can ping me, I'm happy to do videos with all your partners if they want to talk about some cool tech. Any of your friends in the tech, maybe there's somebody in the city can valley who's doing a project they want to they want to show the world they want to talk with a YouTuber, please. They can just add me in my calendar, my calendar link, and we can schedule an interview. Sounds good. And the red is about 50,000. They're talking about the red, but the red is it's a different thing, right? Yeah, no, a red camera head is is a totally different type of use case. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do 8k 120 Hertz. All right. Cool. 120 Hertz is the only is the right way to do 8k. Super high vision 120 that's in the spec and HK made it. All right. So thanks a lot. Thanks again for this feature feature film on my YouTube channel. It's a competitor to the Netflix show. All right. Well, thank you, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Hopefully you learn something of importance. If not, you can always email us and we'll be able to hopefully teach teach something. 1200 frames per second. That's for later. Yeah, that's that's future future. That'd be amazing, though. Cool. All right. Thanks a lot. Very cool. Thank you. Have a good day. Thank you, everyone. Bye.