 Yeah Well real quickly He mentions at one point in the video that so we're evolutionarily biologically adapted to being out in the wild And I I don't think you can refute that but I Don't understand his argument in the sense that he's talking about we should go back to that Which is I Guess the argument against that is that we were already there and where we are now is the culmination of Hundreds of clearly hundreds of thousands of years of effort to control using our minds which is our ultimate adaptive tool the Most powerful Biological adaption given to us and what sets us apart from every other species Where we are right now is the culmination of Us being in that exact environment that he proposes we should go back to so my point is that Even if we did go back there, we would ultimately Construct reconstruct I guess in this scenario Something I can't imagine too much different than what we Worked and Suffered to create currently so I think he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater in essence This is my argument there. We certainly are adapted to hunt and I Type for eight hours a day or stand on our feet for eight hours a day like he says I agree with him And I agree that uh, that's the malignant kind of portion of our society that should be Changed, but should be changed from within not without and The idea of the existential suicide going out in the wild is that's what he suggests it would be Well, Albert Camus says that the existential hero grapples with the absurdity Shift of the universe and decides to take complete Responsibility for his actions the inability to find this reason or the meaning of One's life is what leads to existential angst So our question is what is the meaning we're looking for? What is that meaning that would prevent existential angst? Suicide is an extreme form of existential angst where the man rejects the freedom begotten by the act of the being of Being responsible for his actions and gives into the inherent meaninglessness Of the world and I would say that again, I know I don't have the whole picture. I'm not in his head I'm not gonna profess to portray an accurate example of what he would Probably say if mean and we're having a in-person dialogue, but he did say in the video Video games will any any form of entertainment, but clearly he plays a lot of video games or used to at least is meaningless and Just a you know form of opiate a form of drug Cominducing drug, you know the opiate of the masses to Create the analogy of the analog of religion as said by Marx And so he believes that Essentially, he's not deriving any meaning from a lot of what he does because I assume he plays video games Yet, he still does it doesn't get meaning from it. Obviously doesn't get meaning from any past work. He did I think He's getting the most meaning out of making these videos, which would not be able to occur He would not be able to connect with half a million people on a regular basis If we didn't have technology and he was literally talking about not Allowing ourselves any technology whether it's a gun or even something as primitive as a fishing pole. I Mean, I guess he would he would try to create You know tool up an actual fishing pole at some point And perhaps he would find the most meaning in creating himself rather than Remnant of the civilization that he is denying should exist to to exist in his new Paradigm I heard something interesting Jordan Peterson said in an interview with Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin the other day This is me paraphrasing it, but he said meaning is Where you occupy the optimal position? In the dynamic space of existence, so and actually saw er do this do this Talking about alignment like when you're in nature, you feel like your being is aligned. I think all your concerns and desires are In sync and they're simultaneously being satisfied on all levels of your being and your and your concern things that are Well things that matter to you, I guess things that give you meaning and I think there's a lot of overlap and I'm really curious if he ever mentions Jordan Peterson in his videos because He ours actually made a couple videos about Carl Jung and obviously Jordan Peterson is Primarily Influenced by young although he's well-versed and a lot of other thinkers and psychologists and scientists Philosophers, but Carl Jung is who he most often attributes Quotes and ideas to of his and he says meaning is essentially where It it's an instinct. It's he calls it the instinctive meaning and I think that's such a profound concept that it's almost like We talk about fear and you know, it emotions being Instinctive and you can get into the the layers of the brain where we have most primordial Areas of the brain that we really can't control as easily as the upper layers of consciousness that we have There are most rational or in the outside the least rational most instinctive are in the core of our Brainstead and our small brain there reptilian brain and he thinks that meaning is an instinct and it's possibly the instinct the most important instinct that I Wrote it down to but I forgot where I wrote it, but um He discussed meaning being the instinct that Possibly allows us to make decisions It's like something like meaning is the evolved instinct to be able to accurately produce what we want in the future and Allow us to project ourselves in the right direction in the most meaningful direction in the future that will Give us the most satisfaction and happiness and pride and in our and what we've done. So when something Is meaningful to us when we're in an interaction. That's meaningful he's Peterson saying that that sense of meaning is actually an instinct that is manifesting itself and We can't articulate it rationally most of the time, but what that's doing evolutionarily Is telling us that what we're currently doing that's giving us meaning is the correct way That will lead us to our most optimal future position in the world and Jesus, I'm not I'm butchering that so terribly, but The way he said it, you know clearly he's been thinking about it for 40 years something like that. And so It just meant so much to me hearing that not ironically but meaningfully and so I Think what ER is essentially to boil down his argument If if I were asked to I would say that he's searching for meaning I would say that he wants This radical change in his life because he doesn't have enough meaning in it, which I think Might have been the case if he wasn't making these videos, but I think I Would find a guess I would say that these videos Other than his family because he clearly Values his family quite a bit. I Would say that these videos give him the most meaning in his life so my This this would be a good point to bring this Gansa some sources Sources here and we have so I didn't know anything about Hegel Fridrich Hegel I don't know the philosopher Hegel There's only one That matters apparently Fridrich and the arbitrary any criticism of the past or Present that was not accompanied by a an appreciation of the significance of tradition He said another war might well spread the ideals of the French Revolution without endangering the future of civilization And his interesting idea was that truth Comes to light gradually because they succeed, but in fact that they succeed because they're good And I think that ties into the idea of meaning and Our concept of good as it's evolved Like I think religion although it seems like it's very stagnant and stale it actually was kind of The glue and ironically if you try to dismiss religion It'd be hard If you really gave it its due because I think I don't think there's any tribe out there That doesn't have religion whether it's in the Amazon or modern day or if it's 3,000 10,000 years ago and it's hard. It's really hard to dismiss the fact that if religion is present in every existing unit of Or group I guess you could say human group of humans in the world and Wouldn't you have to say that religion? There's some correlation between the existence of a group's religion and their Ability to successfully recreate and further their particular society I think It's a pretty good argument In other words the groups that didn't have religion were Our wynistically evolutionarily did not succeed Only the ones that did were able to perhaps find enough meaning in life or perhaps it was the the cultural Cohesion that religion offered that allowed it to maintain stability and Perpetuate truths that otherwise might not have been able to be taken seriously enough you know truths like sacrifice and And then the Subservience of the king to the idea of a king so Yeah, that side of the argument I feel like I if I didn't flesh it out good enough at least I've spent enough time on it I Don't I feel like I'm beating the dead horse again, but I think I really wanted to see this party here Was that there's an ultimate purpose and that's freedom and this furnishes a standard of judgment Freedom is the ultimate purpose and that's the part I really agree with you are on is that he He ultimately He just wants us to be free as individuals, but my argument against that is that yeah, we're very much so we're slaves you can you can You can make that argument quite easily, you know, well Especially in the third world countries You don't have many degrees of freedom to work your way up the hierarchy, but I think in order to Create the situation where we were no longer slaves that would require the cult that would be the culmination of a Significant or majority of individuals within that society to shoulder the burden of Making them making the best out of their own lives and making the most out of their own abilities and talents and skills such that the unit of civilization is actually nothing but the product of a Large number of individuals within it that make it up. I think that's all it really is society is the unit of society only matters in so much as it's It is the Emergent unit created by the group created by the Cooperation of a series of individuals within it. So in other words it the individuals make up the society they are the fundamental unit and The unit of society and civilization in general is dependent on the individual That's what I think is most profound about Peterson's argument And that's why his study of communism led him to believe that the unit is the individual The individual is the unit that is most should most be prioritized over the group It's why he's against communism fascism and group identity politics. I think that's in a nutshell His view in a nutshell it doesn't support it but explains and at least posits his Establishes his position at least I want to Elaborate on that for a second because he says all that matters from a Darwinian perspective is permanence and this is Yes, this is in the first first chapter first first rule which is stand up straight With your shoulders back, which is something. I haven't done this whole episode. You're trying to figure out what's real in truth after I don't know if you guys have listened, but he had a I got two or three hour episode Dialogue with Sam Harris About the nature the fundamental nature of truth. What is truth truth is and Sam's idea It's objective reality entirely severed From any perspectives that would come from a subject of being He believes in objective the objective existence of matter energy And the laws that govern them. That's it Peterson Is a lot more open to a view of truth at least he's open to the idea that we don't understand truth enough to make a Definite statement about what it is Or even what box we might be able to put it in currently what he believes is that He only knows what's real so we won't talk about truth. We'll talk about reality and He knows that from evolutionary biology archaeology it is What is real is what has existed What is the common thread essentially he looks at all of what we're able to evolutionarily study and he recognizes the dominance hierarchy, however social oh He recognizes it as the dominance hierarchy he says this hierarchy however Social or cultural it might appear to be it's been around for about half a billion years Half a billion years. It's permanent. It's real. It's not capitalism not communism, but It's not even a human creation in the most profound sense, and yeah, I'm gonna throw this one in just Just for you it is instead a near eternal aspect of the environment And much of what is blamed on these more ephemeral manifestations is a consequence of its unchanging existence We've lived in dominance hierarchies for a long long time We were struggling for position before we had skin hands lungs or bones There's a little more natural than that. Now. He says there's little more natural than culture Dominance hierarchies are older than trees And that's where he's known for his lobster for being affiliated with Teaching about the lobster The part of our brain that keeps track of our position in the dominance hierarchy is therefore exceptionally ancient and fundamental He goes on to say that That's why it affects every aspect of our being when we're defeated That's why we act very much like lobsters who have lost a fight Our posture drops. We face the ground. We don't do anything to improve We get chronically depressed So he's saying the basic neurochemistry is the same. Yeah, so we have a Considered serotonin the chemical that governs posture and escapes in the lobstern and escape in the lobster low ranking lobsters produce comparatively low levels of serotonin This is also true of low raking raking human beings. It means Decreased confidence low serotonin means more response to stress in a cost you costlier physical Preparedness for emergency. So what he's saying is that on a fundamental instinct that we have is our ability to recognize Where we are on the dominance hierarchy and he says that regulates our mood and everything about us our being It's it's ingrained. It's a fundamental part of our psyche And when we know we're at the bottom, we're much more aware of our susceptibility to Really abuse in any form of Negative interaction Much more aware of our vulnerabilities when we're at the top. We have a lot more serotonin flowing through our brains and we're much more We're able to much We're able to take a hit we're able to take a loss as they say taking out with much less Risk, you know because if you're already at the top There's a long way down before you hit the bottom So there's plenty of room to play there and there's plenty of room to work your way up and Even if you take a loss and you're near the top, you're still gonna be better. You're gonna be in your mind and as long as you're Intune enough with reality and everybody else's mind then you're gonna still be well ahead of the curve and therefore you don't really have any reason to Feel that that anxiety of losing nearly as much as someone who has not worked their way up to the top so Goes on just this is this is why I like having The physical copy of the book so I can underline because I underline the shit out of my books. I hate Maybe I should just one day meet him up and get a signature because this this book is Without a doubt it's gonna go down as one of the great books of the 21st century. I feel so anyways so he's talking about once you acknowledge the fact that the importance of Recognizing that our normal neurochemistry is controlled from these really ancient numbers I guess of These really ancient instruments in our brain that that are constantly constantly Aware of our place on the hierarchy within our society That's when the awakening occurs and he says when once naive people Recognizing themselves the seeds of evil and monstrosity They see themselves as dangerous or at least potentially and their fear decreases they develop more self-respect and I Just skipped a bunch of pages, but he's talking about once you recognize the ability Once you recognize that we derive meaning from Where we perceive our place on the dominance hierarchy in that a Low place in the dominance hierarchy often comes from being undisciplined and Lacking responsibility taking responsibility for things all things I can relate to and I feel it. Maybe you know could very much be What's the word some sort of some form of bias in this or whatever and I'm just projecting myself on to what I'm learning Could very well be that but at the same time It's hard to deny the reality of Everything he says. I mean there is clearly a hierarchy clearly feel bad when we're down Clearly feel better when we're up discipline responsibility for your actions Sacrifice for your future Being aware that every little decision you make adds up to a summation of your emergent Identity and therefore every time you fuck up every time you make a Irresponsible or cowardly decision that just makes you a little bit smaller makes your psyche feel a little bit weaker all those things and Conversely every time you make a decision that you're proud of that aligns your being and The way you feel in the hierarchy the way you feel About to give to those that you care about to the ideas that you care about such as your yourself your family your loved ones your Friends and extrapolating out further and further into a broader scope your your community Your city your your your state your government your your nation Ultimately for wise enough of our species and ultimately all life and ultimately being itself maybe and And yeah, it has a rippling transformative effect and he's saying the way to overcome the fear and the the grossly apparent anxiety of taking on the burden of For responsibility for your own life in your position in the hierarchy That's that fear can be Superceded by knowledge of reality that Whether you're at the top or the bottom of the hierarchy you have the capacity as a human to know how a human that knows how How you can be hurt therefore you can extrapolate because we are thinking the thinking Species after all can easily extrapolate how to make other people suffer as well because we know what makes us suffer So Wherever you occupy your position in the hierarchy You have that capacity for evil. It's within you to be a monster Whether it's a cowardly weak resentful bitter monster or a powerful Capable competent monster either way you're you have that capacity within you and his argument Very very distilled down and well, maybe not distilled, but very simplified is that it's Much better and you can rationally write it out to run away from the cowardly aspect and move towards the noble competent aspect of being a monster and that the ideal that we should all strive for is To be a Civilized monster. We should have the capacity and we should know furthermore that we have the capacity to do do evil not not because it's some Delusion of You know positive delusions. I think Pearson always references being ridiculous because you You can't found confidence can't can't the fun the foundation of your confidence be Riding on top of a shaky delusion that everything's good. You know you has to be Solid on rest on a solid foundation that You actually know Your capacity for evil is within you, you know, whether it's Latent whether it's buried or whether you are consciously aware of it It's there. So why not be consciously aware of it and be? Confident that you know you're capable of evil and it's not just gonna come to you he dismisses in every aspect the ability to Just have it manifest it comes through action and his whole point is to take action and take Responsibility as an individual in our society and then the culmination of all those individuals one full in fact produce Civilization that we want to live in that we Are actually not inclined to call cancer So yeah, once you develop that I think a pretty cool positive message from it to me was you develop more self-respect and perhaps You begin to Resist oppression So that's cool. You know, I think I tackled everything that I wanted to in the video Surprisingly, I agree with ER that You're well more Beyond advanced technologically relative to our As he said our behavior so Behaviorally or morally I would say the name of that is that the behavior The morals that have informed our behaviors for years Have Got us through evolutionarily the last hundred thousand years maybe quarter million years who knows Who knows how old the the myths and stories of religion that religions based off of? are really along we've been telling similar stories about heroes and about Inspiring individuals that we could try to emulate in that in fact doing so helps the individual Thereby the group that that individual belongs to Improve their lot in life and position technologically and hierarchically Relative to other groups. So it's an evolutionarily very Adaptively beneficial Existing cultural phenomenon mean if you will Religion is But nonetheless, yeah, I think it's like we've been using Flint tools for a quarter million years We wouldn't really if we had We wouldn't be in the we wouldn't have You know gotten past agriculture We definitely wouldn't have been able to build the pyramids let alone a large a drunk lighter. So I think there's a very important and very sincere case to be made and very Very practical very relevant very Well very important for our for the future of humanity to be made that we need to somehow Advance everybody's concept beyond our ancient morals created by the laws that we've been following for hundreds of thousands of years and in its more Contemporary form for at least 2000 or at you know to be Give it to maybe only 500 years. So maybe it has shifted a little bit, but it's far far behind Where it should be to be able to regulate nuclear weapons that could destroy literally Scorched earth literally Be able to inform The morals behind our ability to scorch the entire earth destroy The biosphere of an entire planet our morals are not up to date. I agree with them 100% on that and I think that's I Think that's his position relatively so Without God, I the more I listen to J.B.P. I believe that the idea of God Aside from the proclamation that he as an entity exist or not Is so so important to us that we shouldn't dismiss it and I think ERC's that he Recognizes that they're there there may be a God because of the Fermi paradox. Basically, he references he even mentions that Which is explained what he mentions that it's very improbable and There might be credit to the idea of a God some sort of creation creator that Explains the fact that We have discovered literally trillions of stars Among just our local group of galaxies alone yet. We have no evidence whatsoever of intelligent civilization And he thinks that's ridiculous. He thinks that's drastically improbable and I'm I'm in complete agreement with him on that so I think the Fermi paradox is something that tries to Encapsulate that idea in a phrase you know to organize it in our minds that We should definitely see It's very very improbable that we're the only ones in this galaxy. We're the only planet That life is formed on intelligent life at least But Going back to the idea of God Nietzsche is important in that realm Says that evolutionarily we evolved with the idea of God. So whether we think Technology has disproved that because God filled all these Man because Because God I think it's statement answer to our lack of knowledge and a Lot of those areas that were attributed to God prior to 300 years ago 500 years ago Are now being explained very logically and practically scientifically He's in Nietzsche it believes that that's a that's a fallacy to Again throw the baby out with the bathwater just because we're able to explain some phenomena It does not necessarily mean that we can extrapolate that and explain all phenomena eventually because we haven't yet and Some things such as consciousness are literally inexplicable right now And are in fact so Complex and we have so little understanding of how they work that it's Although we can leave room for the possibility that That there is no God We'd be unwise and haughty and mendacious as Nietzsche likes to say a lot that to assume that we Already know enough to be able to eventually Figure it all out. So It's just why is not to put the cart before the horse as they say and just assume that Based on our scientific capabilities our technological advancements we've essentially Discover all there is to know such as a Lot of people made in the 1800s talking about the cosmos thinking that Our galaxy was the universe when in fact no it was Really incomprehensibly Not such a small part of the universe that we actually even know about today, so Yeah, so I think the idea of nihilism can be refuted just based on the fact that There is meaning that that we actually feel if you didn't feel meaning then why would you care about living with other people and dating Why would you give a shit about your family? Jordan Peterson's argument that suffering Is the one thing you can't deny and the absence of suffering is good Therefore and meaning is created instinctively based on relationships and experience in the world mostly pertaining to developing cultivating skills that that that we can use to benefit are the ones we care about and Therefore society walking the line between order and chaos and constantly pushing our boundaries and limits and expanding our abilities He thinks that That is enough evidence for meaning that that it's a You know obviously it's a very simple simplified argument But he thinks that's enough to refute the concept of nihilism where nothing has any meaning because The universe is gonna just If we extrapolate our knowledge currently, it's just gonna end in the heat death of osmosis in 500 trillion years or something like that. All right. I think I covered everything I wanted to hear so Other than I think I pretty much Well wanted to maybe mention that the medical issues alone regarding going back to a primitive lifestyle with preclude that from happening ever I Don't know what his technical specific argument against that would be but I don't really see a way out of that I mean Do we destroy all of civilization except for hospitals and and the institutions that allow us to create doctors like universities I Don't see how that's possible You are if you're listening I hope There's no way in hell you actually got to the end of this video even if you did click on it, so The way out some of this gets to you and We can have a dialogue about this because I think you're an intelligent inspiring creative Courageous dude and I Think you have a lot to offer Not just ASMR community, but I think you have a lot of really good ideas, and I just wanted to try to just have a little fun Maybe open the dialogue with you about these interesting ideas that you're putting forth, so I'm gonna leave it there guys and let me know what you think in the comments subscribe like those comments really do keep this channel going If you really think you're getting something out of it, of course, you have the option to donate Bitcoin I'll have to set up an Ethereum account apparently bitcoins Not the only way people like donating crypto currencies and Yeah, I know way, you know Want to try to push that on people it's just very Very inspiring very encouraging for me to see that if you throw a buck or two of my way. 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