 What's up guys and welcome to one take tonight. We're talking about Amazon primes upload episode two titled five stars I'm Gil here with my brother Adam. Oh, and our tech guy slash brother alone Yo, and before we get into it quick reminder to hit that subscribe button and The bell icon so you get notified the next time we release a video and the next time we go live Now I know all ten episodes of this show have been released But this is just episode two. We haven't watched anything past that so no spoilers for episode three onward We're pacing ourselves exactly. We're trying to enjoy this show and make it last so let's jump into episode two First off I have to make a correction in episode one I kept referring to the suicide tube in the middle of the town as the torrid You both said that you knew I was saying it wrong but neither of you corrected me well You made you you made me start questioning myself. I forgot what it was called But when I said torrid because you said it it didn't feel right Adam what was it actually called the torrent which makes a lot more sense because it's a data link, right tech guy, right? All right, I don't want to sound stupid again. So if I say anything dumb this time Give me the bell and we'll make the correction So overall, I think we are all sort of feeling pretty similar about this show after episode two We like the show it's definitely a little bit sillier a little bit more comedic than what we usually watch And I do think episode two shows us that they'll dip into some darker more interesting ideas But the silly sort of network television feel of the show always yanks it back to that sort of status quo Which I don't hate but I also don't love I think alone you put it you put it pretty accurately after the episode I like it more than I don't like it. Yeah Overall, I think just a pleasure to watch and we're gonna keep going through the season anything else to add just overall How you felt about the episode before we jump into the highlights. Well, I like that. It's getting into some of Besides just the main character adjusting to this world. It's getting into some Plot arcs that are hinting at some overarching Thing that's going on in the background, right and you love a good conspiracy, right? Yeah, so that's perfect for you Oh, and how about you any other thoughts? You know besides the Conspiracies that we're learning about and all that there are some interesting characters that add, you know They're they're pretty funny like hit the guy across the hall from him choke. Yeah, yeah one of the choke brothers, I believe and then that dude that Was just staring at him annoyed and then walked away in front of the bushes, right? Right the Japanese garden or something. Yeah, I see you're making yourself at home. Yeah Yeah, that guy. Yeah, there's some funny characters awesome Well, let's jump into the episode and talk about highlights first off. Let's talk about Ingrid So that's a Nathan's ex-girlfriend or still current girlfriend She continues to be the worst and I will say though I don't know if I need any more jokes about her grooming her Area private area. I think they don't have those in heaven. Yeah, exactly I think no actually in this episode was made very clear. They do have those yeah this episode She goes to buy a Intimate suit which was a pretty disgusting all of these like inflatable fingers. Yeah, which is pretty hilarious Adam doesn't want to invest in actually buying one. She's gonna go rent one. Yeah previously used Oh the close-up shot when they talk about how kids will use them to for their grand parents to hug them Yeah, you see all the hairs and stuff Absolutely disgusting Adam do you have any theories about Ingrid? So do we think that she's involved so kind of jumping to the end of the episode just to tie it in We do see a memory of Nathan's where an investor basically says who else have you told about this app? We're ready to buy it and this is the app that allows people to create their own upload and It's obviously something that the big companies won't like right implying the conspiracy being maybe one of the big upload companies killed Nathan Did you you asked me during the episode if I think Ingrid is involved in that company? Is that a prediction of yours? Yeah, I think she is I I think it's it's clear that she's very wealthy And we don't know why I think she's either Tied by family to that company or she's otherwise involved somehow right So maybe she wanted him dead the company wanted him dead and so she just nudged things in that direction either that or it's just a Coincidence and she collects boyfriends in this world That's one of the possibility because she seems weird enough to do that Although she seems very disinterested in him now that he's there. So I think most likely she's part of the company Yeah, yeah, I'm interested that was our theory after episode one, but mixed signals So we'll see let's jump over to Nora and here we learned that that app introduced in episode one nightly is specifically sort of like uber for Physical intimacy hookups. Yeah, and I love my my my tap dance of trying to avoid Sank certain words that I get the YouTube algorithm after us. That's right Yeah, I don't even know if we should say the word algorithm. You know what this stream is over right here I Was I dense or was it obvious in episode one that that's what this app is all about? I assumed it was just a normal tinder-esque dating app When was nightly mentioned in episode one? Can you remember when Nora was talking to her friend while she was showering? Mm-hmm, and she's like, oh, I get her meth addicts and bus boys. Oh, yeah yeah, so turns out that that's what the app is all about and Do you think Adam prediction time you're big on tech actually tech guy Do you think this app will exist in the next 10 years? Yes, but only for Android because I don't think Apple would allow something like that Adam you can it already kind of exists depending on how you use them, right? Yeah, it's not the express purpose of the tinders of the world and I guess you don't rate the people that's one That's right. Well, but I think people do have ratings and all these apps It's just not necessarily a linear. How good are you so much as it's? Different qualities rated in certain ways and in the background, right, right in the algorithm, but this guy's This is a great guy. Yeah, this guy sucks We also learn a little bit more about her backstory she's trying to get an employee discount So she can afford upload for her father and in order to get that employee discount She needs a score of what was it four point six? I think I think so in her score right now is a four point five nine eight Something like that. Yeah, so she's just on the brink of it and her boss who is the worst will not approve That employee discount even though she's right on the line and they do a good job of making her boss Just seem like the worst human being a she won't approve Nora's employee discount B we see her spying on Luke when he puts the mirror. Oh, yeah So this show does a good job of making you immediately hate whoever you're supposed to hate in grid Nora's boss Anything else to say about just Nora's backstory. There's a little bit we learn. Uh, I Wonder I'm wondering where it's gonna go, right? It's like I Don't think you can just force someone to go to the this afterlife if they don't want to you're doing it dad Yeah Well, I mean, you know what? Nathan's the main character, right? Yes. Yeah, I mean he kind of was coerced into it Right sort of like due to the urgency of the situation, but I don't think Nora would do that to him without Without her father changing his mind, right, but I think if anything he's gonna change her mind about it Oh, yeah, I don't see him at changing his mind And I'm interested to see if they delve further into that conversation because that was one of the more interesting moments for me In episode one this guy who refuses to go to upload because he lost his wife and she's in quote-unquote real heaven I'd like to see them tackle that conversation and go into more depth on it Let's jump over it to as you said Adam the main character Nathan He meets he goes to animal therapy Oh, yeah, Luke hands him that big dog which again love Luke and then the dog starts talking so it's a therapy for literally a dog therapist and Basically, Nathan says he's struggling with wanting responsibility I want to be independent and capable in the real world people rely on you women want to be with you Then the dog assigns him to speak to five people. I guess just what did you think of dog therapist? What did you think of Nathan's struggles and and all that well? This is actually this is the first time I can remember seeing a dog actually talking and it not bothering me Besides the cartoon dog, you know, right, right? Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty hilarious and I also I liked him describing his plight I think that would be probably the biggest issue with going to an upload at like place is the lack of Responsibility he says people rely on you and upload it. What are you supposed to do? And I'm curious to see how they resolve that is he gonna find a hobby I mean, can you still build skills and upload or they just download them into your brain like in the matrix? Mm-hmm, but I imagine that would be one of the toughest things about being in there Is you no longer have that experience of improving at something, right? And I think for him a part of it will be Trying to help Nora. Yeah, I think that's gonna be huge for him because that is The one way that you could be relied upon in the upload world is emotionally So he sees Nora as somebody who needs his help and she's probably the only person at least at the moment Where he can provide something of value, right? And someone who exists in real life not in a virtual world, right exactly now one weird thing I thought about after episode one is He doesn't he hasn't reached out to his mother or any of his family yet Yes, which do you think there's a reason for that or have we just not gotten to it yet? Could just be an oversight or it could just be that it's not that relevant to the plot Benny often ways out We kind of forgot It's body for all we know that's happening off-camera. It's just not that relevant to the plot So they're not showing it to us. Well, his mother my impression was that she's not very pro upload She seemed pretty horrified when he was going through the process I wonder if we're going to if it's going to be a moment of him saying mother you haven't reached out to me Right, it might be just a thing on her part where she's so against this world. You're not my son anymore It's like people's parents just refusing to figure out how to use FaceTime They end up complaining that you don't talk to them, right Now one theory on the torrent because the therapist talks to him I mean yet the reason he's going to animal therapy is because he was very close to ending his afterlife Now after episode one, I thought why the hell do they need to have that torrent? Simulated in this world so people can end like I said They're afterlife and I wonder if it's done purposefully Luke made reference in episode one to the fact that in the first iteration of upload You didn't have to eat didn't have to go to the bathroom You didn't blink and people went psychotic. Do you think similarly they have to at least have the option of Ending things and maybe that's where they purposefully put that torrent there. I think that's part of it Yeah, I think it would be Pretty torturous to have no way out, right, right agrees. I think I bet that'll get addressed at some point The speaking to five people assignment. I feel like that plot didn't really go anywhere It was kind of just an excuse for a few jokes. Yeah Except for the choke character like you said big fan of that guy and why don't we jump over to David choke? So, what did you think of this character? Probably the smartest person on the show? I? Love his nonchalant when Nathan tells him I got in a car accident. Ah, so you got murdered. Yeah No BS attitude And while they're talking Nathan Realizes again that he's forgetting stuff. He can't even remember the name of the app He was working on and alone. I have to say it's so funny how every show we cover seems to have little handshake overlap with the previous show We're watching devs are talking about human consciousness. What is it? Determinism that leads right into Westworld Westworld removing somebody's memories removing who they are Handshake over to upload where exact same concept that are racing as memories Which is such a disturbing idea because your memories Adam is an expert on the mind Your memories basically make you who you are. Yeah, if you're a racing. No, it's just slowly Eradicating your consciousness basically you lose your sense of continuity with the past exactly So it's pretty disturbing that he's forgetting all this stuff Well, it seems like the memories are still in there somewhere right is when Nora and him were singing that song Uptown funk exactly the lyrics started coming back to him. Yeah So maybe even if they're deleting the dot mem files They haven't quite figured out how to totally control the human brain Maybe he was able to pull it out of the recycle bin Maybe in permanently deleted. Yeah, or the any other thing is he still remembers the purpose of the app He was working on he just forgets the name and you would think that if they were trying to actually erase those memories because he's Competition they would probably want to get rid of that stuff too. So maybe it was an intern just half-assing it Delete the memory. I deleted it. Yeah, you deleted the name. That was it Well speaking of uptown funk you up Nora and Nathan continue to Blossom into a little I think romance is in the air a little bit So he can't remember the song that they danced to at prom uptown funk and Nora helps him remember by singing it They start singing together She's also struggling to get her five-star ratings, right? So she can Get the employee discount. So at a certain point he calls her over and just gives her five stars over and over Yeah, yeah, okay, Adam. Go ahead. I see if something about that. It's not a big deal because they could have just shown this dragged out over a longer period of time and Have him request a bunch of legitimate needs from her and then rate her five stars for doing that Instead they just had him do it over and over again in sequence Which no modern algorithm would allow to have a large impact on her overall rating Yeah, so that just I rolled my eyes a little bit at that, but I don't actually I don't really care It doesn't really detract that right. I know everybody watching this right now. They've trying to hit that like button You know 50 times doesn't work though if you hit it and then you hit it again It just unlikes it so don't do that Remember if you want to hit it multiple times just make sure you hit it an odd number of times, right? Yeah So I you know, I'm enjoying it's it's the gym and Pam of the show. I'm enjoying watching them come together I wonder what's going to happen when Ingrid catches a whiff of this So I'm worried about that Though if she kills Nora as well Yeah, I can be together there. Yeah Let's talk about Dylan So we mentioned how the show does touch on some darker themes and here we get one of them We see this child who's playing a sort of street fighter type of game with the butler I know that's what a lot would be doing the whole time. Yeah That was pretty cool actually. Yeah, I wonder how much more of the Reality-bending stuff we're gonna see we see a hint of it there where the kids fighting the butler We see the talking dog But you could do anything in this world and so far it doesn't seem like they've gotten that creative. I Would imagine there'd be like space world over there where you can go visit Mars, but so far it just seems like a Country club. Yeah, well like this Lakeview world to me looks like a retirement home for older people So I don't know like there's probably a bunch of other kinds of VR or not VR simulated after last two I don't know why this is the one he went to other than that. It's what his girlfriend What what Ingrid kind of signed him up for but I don't know I feel like there's probably better ones for younger people definitely and I might just have not seen all of it yet Yeah, and he might need to borrow more of Ingrid's money to get access to some of the cooler areas of Lakeview But basically Dylan eight-year-old kid all of a sudden he finds that his best friend in the world is no longer Responding to any of his messages. He seems to be blocked Sends Nora to investigate it turns out his friend is 18 years old now They were best friends, you know 10 years ago But in the real world this kid continues to grow up while Dylan stays the same age as Matty McConaughey says In a very different content So that's pretty dark that's pretty sad to think about and Nora tries to when she comes back and gives Dylan the bad news He tells her you know you tried your best, but it just wasn't good enough and gives her stars I think you know in part this highlights the The flaws and the technology of this the system that they live in so we already see there's some glitches like the birds flapping their wings in the sky at the beginning of the episode kind of glitch out for a second right and You see a bunch of little issues here and there So part of it could just be they haven't figured out how to Include aging you know like right most people would want to not get older while they're there But you might have kids who at least could reach maturity Yeah, I think you'd want to age to mid 20s Yeah, maybe 30 and then sort of pause or be able to change it. I will like I want to just be younger now I want to be older, but yeah, if you enter this world as an eight-year-old I don't think you'd want to just stop developing and then you run into these sorts of issues That 18-year-old would probably be super down to play whatever the 20 38 version of Halo is yeah, so Yeah, so again though It's a moment where you're like wow that's pretty dark and then you're back to just a normal upload humor So you kind of just breeze past it So we touched already on the conspiracy We talked about that memory we saw and I think our big takeaway is big company Upload technology wants to wipe out this Free version of it which could destroy their industry, right? But that does give you a little bit of a window into Nathan it where episode one in moments tried to convince us This is not the best guy pretty narcissistic But it seems like he was doing something he believed in and something that would really help a lot of people So I'm intrigued to see what the thesis of this character will be is this really is one flaw is that he's Overly concerned with his appearance. What was his motivation for working on the app? curious to see where that goes Anyway, any other thoughts on episode two No, it's good. It it added some depth to the show I mean added the just the right amount of curiosity that I needed to kind of keep going with it Yeah agreed only other thoughts. I'd say Luke that character. They did a great job with him I want to see more Luke. Yeah, he's funny and I think comedically Probably about half the jokes land for me and it's the smaller ones that work Choke being nonchalant saying us so you got murdered or the the guy you referenced in the Japanese Garden You seem to have made yourself at home. Yeah, just the oddity of that moment So, yeah, we'll continue to watch see how this all unfolds and with that I think we could say thanks for watching if you enjoyed this video Make sure to hit that like button hit the subscribe button and of course the bell icon so you get notified The next time we do a video and the next time we go live. Thanks for watching. Have a good night