 Yeah, no problem. Yeah, I'm going to drop off, but you guys should should be all set. Looks like you're recording, so. Excellent. Thanks so much. Okay. Have a good one. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye. Bye. Okay. Well, since we're at a quorum and we're recording, I will go ahead and introduce tonight's. March 14th, 2023 meeting of the Amherst cultural council. This meeting will be conducted via remote means members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner. By attending the zoom link, which has been posted in advance on the town website. No in-person attendance of members of the public will be permitted. But every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time. Be a technological means. In the event that we're unable to do so for reasons that economic hardship and despite best efforts will post on the town's YouTube channel. An audio video recording of this. And then we also will go around and just do a sound check. And I'll just kind of read across the screen here. So you just let us know that you can hear us and make sure we can hear you Robin. Yeah. Julian. Yes. I think you said yes as you muted yourself. Yes. Cody. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Eleanor. Yes. Are you able to hear me? Gotcha. Good. Okay. I'm in a museum lobby. So I might not be talking. Yeah. Great. We appreciate you being here. And Rachel. I'm here. Great. All right. Wonderful. Thanks everybody so much. So Julian. Shall I just proceed with our agenda? And then we can go back and forth or do you want to run it or how do you want to. You're free to go ahead. Please. Okay. All right. I've had a day too. It's everybody. So just fair warning. We're both. A little bit out of pocket, but we are here. So first of all, why don't we just go around. Did anybody have any comments or notes on the minutes. That I sent out from Leah. Thanks to. Our. Wonderful secretary. Any, any comments or. It's revisions that need to be made on that on those. Okay. Not seeing any. Does anybody want to make a motion to. Accept those minutes and we can post those. Great. You have a second. I'll second it. Why not. And then we'll do a quick roll call vote. Robin. Julian. Yes. Eleanor. Yes. Leah. Yes. And Rachel. Yes. Okay, great. And the, I see you actively taking notes there. So I'm not going to create it a minute stock. You're right. Okay. Great. Okay. So then we'll move on. Okay. Great. Okay. So then moving down. I don't believe we have any members of the public. Let me just check that. Nope. I don't see any attendees. So we don't have any public comment tonight, but of course if somebody joins later, they certainly can. And then let me just, I think I'll just jump right into the most sort of. Pressing and time sensitive piece of. Discussion. And I'm just going to preface this by, by just want to acknowledge that this is a tough one for me. This is not really where we were hoping to be with this. Project. And I want to just also acknowledge actually Eleanor, Leah and Cody, all three volunteer to help sort of. Meet and put together the block party. You know, we have right now we have our grantees sort of submitting their interest in participating in this. But especially Eleanor for, you know, taking the lead on writing and submitting the original. Festivals and projects grant, which we still have not received any confirmation on, out of MCC, which is strange. And I did reach out to them. You know, about three weeks ago, I can reach out again, but this news, I think we'll, we'll sort of change that. So about, about a week and a half ago, the bid notified Juliana myself that they, they are going to be down a staff member through the spring. So Liz Larson was working with them. Not full time, but like 80% over time, something like that. And she had extenuating circumstances that are taking her away from out of town and out of state. For the next few months, I don't think it's a clear timeline on, on it, but it's a, you know, it's just one of those things that she has to attend to. And so she's, I believe taking some leave from the bid, definitely scaling back on, on what she can do there. And, and they just, I think they made the hard decision that, you know, going from 1.8 to 1.0 in terms of staff was just not tenable for them to do this block party this year. So, you know, they, yeah, Julia. Yeah, I would, I would just add that, you know, as far as event planning and execution, this was ambitious from the get go, you know, to identify people, invite them and get every, a really large event organized in this amount of time, even, even with a staff of three or four on it would have been ambitious. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, it was, we were dreaming big all the way around. And, you know, I think the proposal that they made to us, you know, they did say, look, if you guys want to, you know, as volunteers put this whole thing together, find these vendors, sign these, you know, if you want to do this whole thing, we, meaning the bid would be, would support it and would, you know, and would still contribute the funds that they were going to contribute, cultural district funds, they were going to, you know, they would still be a partner to it. They just couldn't do, as Julianne said, the event planning aspect, which is unfortunately that is, you know, that's what we needed them to do was, was really to facilitate the process. So they kind of posed a couple of ideas. One was that, you know, and they knew they knew that we really couldn't, but they wanted to put it out there, you know, that if we or somebody else wanted to be the lead event planner on this, then, then we could, and they would support that. But then they made a pretty earnest case that they, you know, we can just start planning for 2024 and do us, you know, do a really well thought out meticulous, you know, methodical spring 24 block party. And then, you know, in anticipation of tonight's meeting, I reached out to MCC and talk, ask them about the funds that we had set aside and they said, you know, that's not a problem. We'll make a note that, you know, that you want to roll these funds forward. And I told them like we need to make the decision of the council, but you know, would we be able to roll those funds forward? They didn't have any problem with it that, you know, the allocation is made, so they wouldn't try to take it back. And so, you know, J responded right away and said, it's not a problem, you know, we'll make a note of it. So it's feasible from the MCC side of things. We don't have to make a commitment tonight for 2024. You know, I mean, how many of us are going to be, you know, there's too many variables at this, at this stage. I think it's, but it's, that's a conversation to carry forward. So I'll stop there because I'm sure folks have questions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is, it's kind of a. A shock. So we're asking to give ourselves an extension. Essentially. Right. I mean, I think that's a fun way of saying it. Yeah. That's, I mean, you know, we would, we would. We would postpone this, this project. Yeah. I mean, other events like this. One, maybe two days off after it, and then they start planning again. I mean, this isn't first night Boston, which I have worked on the production end. But it's still a big event. Right. So, I mean, there's all sorts of things involved and, and decisions to be made. And I was amazed to get moved to like early May. I mean, I can understand why, but that seemed like very early. So, yeah. And, and you said, I'm proud of my speaker. My mic. You said we have not heard about the $2,500 grant yet. Out. Right. Maybe we could use that for some smaller reception or something. And, and not. You know, put it together with. The $2,500 and then next year, you guys can, you know, grant even more. I'd like to add, as far as the, the MCC, while, you know, we do have a responsibility to, to get funds into the hands of grantees. It was nice how quickly Jay came back and it approved the, the extension. And, and if you think about what the amount of extending and revising and working with grantees that we've been doing all along, that actually led up to us having this pool of funds at all. You know, life can continue to roll and be complicated and, and, you know, everywhere people are short staffed and still dealing with medical impacts. And it was really nice that they, we had their full support and they understood and there was no question. And I really do believe that, you know, it's our responsibility to put on a fantastic event with that. So there's, there's a little bit of me that's, that's relieved to have the extra time rather than having to, to just be, be scrappy with this. On the other hand, I agree with Matt that it's time for people to be able to get back together in person and collaborate and have culture, but, you know, we just can't force this. So, you know, we have to vote on this as a council, but I'm not quite sure the motion to bring to vote because our, our hands are tied and we're moving forward and we, we have full support of the MCC. So in some ways that's, that's kind of all there is today. And as far as what we would do with the 2,500, I guess I would say let's get it first before we go back and look at the particulars of that grant and what it's restricted to and whether we have to amend with them and let's, let's actually get the approval before we start iterating on what that can be. Let's actually have the thing. So that's kind of where we are with, suddenly with a lot of time on our hands to, to devote to other, other initiatives, I guess. Yeah, totally. I mean, it's sorry if it is loud in the background, but it's a, it's a bummer, but I think that it makes total sense. And I agree, you know, I agree with the best event we possibly can. And the 2024 one might be that. And I do, you know, I agree with get the grant before we look at the specifics, but I do love Robin's idea of some kind of reception and just bringing people together. I think that's what it was about in the end, just like a way to, you know, bring our artists together and also maybe some people in the town or something, but yeah, just that art community that makes total sense. Now I'm really kind of hoping we get that grant. I mean, you know, I mean, you know, this idea is warming up to me a little bit like, you know, rent the Hitchcock Center for a night or whatever and have people come together and just a little reception for the warranties, just a little mingling thing and see what kind of ideas. But I'll take Julia's point. We're going to wait and get the, and get the funds first, but, but no, you're, you know, you're right. I mean, if, if what we were feeling was the need to get people together physically, you know, that's a, that's a nice idea. Rachel. Hi, so just to make sure I'm understanding everyone correctly, Julie, and you're proposing that we wait to, to hear about that grant before we actually talk specifics. And then as, as for the 2,500, we've already set aside. Is that, is that up to us now? 7,500. 7,500. Oh yeah, yeah, I was thinking of something. I was thinking of something else. Sorry. Yeah. So are we saying that now we can go ahead and plan something different with that? Or are you saying wait for the approval to. So, so we'll use that money in a different way. Yeah. So with that, we are approved to extend and do the event in 2024. However, if the council wanted to, to vote, you know, in between now and the next grant cycle to roll that money back into a grant cycle and do no event, that is also a possibility. I don't think any of us necessarily want to do that. But, but it's important to know that that's an option because what if something changes and we find that, you know, we still don't have a partner to, to do the events management and planning or there, there's just many contingencies. And again, it's important to know that what we're going to do, what we're going to do, what we're going to do, what we're going to do, what responsibility is, is to support the community with these funds, right? So we do have options along the way, but we don't have to vote today as to exactly what we're going to do. You know, I certainly support doing the event and doing it well in 2024. If anybody is it's against that, you know, it'd be good to know, but we don't have to bring that part to a vote today. So that's, that's, that's accurate. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, the 7,500 is safe to roll forward and I don't think we're going to, tonight we're not going to make any new decision. I want to do with those funds. And in theory, go ahead, Leo. No, I have my question later. Would there be a possibility that these funds would be, are we thinking of using these funds. We could save and then use this grant for 2024, or we think you have doing this using these on a smaller reception and then reapplying for the grants and projects thing next year for that. No, I think, I think where things stand right now and you know, but all things are open for discussion, but, but what we did with, we took our, you know, we took our core. Funding sort of funding. We set aside 7,500 of that for this project. And I think the, the idea on the table is let's not make any new decision about that 7,500. Tonight. Let's understand that we're not going to go forward for, for May with the block party, but I don't think right now, anybody's proposing to use that money at all. Like, I keep that some as, as is sort of standing alone. If this 2,500 does come, Robin's point was kind of, if this other unrelated, not unrelated, but unrelated grant for festivals and projects. So, if we have that, if we have that quote unquote problem or situation, then we'll have a new decision to make. And, you know, we could, we could decide to roll that forward or we could repurpose that, but I think until we have that funds. You know, as, as Julian said, I'll let Julian clarify and then Cody's been waiting patiently, I think. That's what I was going to clarify was that Cody had had his hand up. So can I ask my question then or like the, the follow up to just what you're saying or Cody, do you want to, Cody, you want to talk first and then go ahead. Okay. Okay. So I guess my just to make sure I understand this correctly in theory, we don't, we can make a new decision or, or just we can make our decision about this, this amount we've already set aside towards the end of this year. Right. That's the latest we would need to decide about it. Is that correct? Because as we evaluate the next round, is that, is that fair to think of it that way that in theory, we can decide at that point. That would be the latest we have to decide obviously, but we does, does it, is it fair to say that we have this whole period to think about what might make sense to do with them. That money was set aside with MCC for a local. Council activity, a local activity. And that's something that, you know, that's really all they need to know in terms of the budgeting. They just need to know we set that aside for our purpose. If we want to use it for something other than we described to them, we would communicate that to them and make sure that, you know, we would, we would communicate to them just sort of through email. It wouldn't go through the official process, but in theory, you know, if our council saw an urgent community need in the next nine months, we could repurpose, we could repurpose that 7500. I don't think anybody, well, yeah, so we could. Okay. At that best practice, you know, would, would be, you know, as we're finalizing the next round, we better have a purpose for that. And if not, you know, if for some reason we don't, then it needs to probably go into the next round, but because it's in 2024, it would be extended beyond when we're finalizing the next grant cycle. Right. But we have 2024 to do it. Right. But we would be uncomfortable with finalizing the next grant cycle and not like really truly having an event and holding it back myself. Right. Right. I just meant that we could, we could wait until that. That cycle to decide. Okay. That's fine. Thank you. All right. Cody. I could. Robin. He's been waiting. Yeah. Cody. Cody. Yeah. I just like the combination. Doing something more immediate, but also fulfilling our commitment of doing the block. That's a good question. So you're saying if we, right, if we, we already have a sort of a soft commitment to doing a block party with our grantees, the word is out. Now we can explain, look, you know, the bid can't do it this year. And we don't, we're not going to be able to make a decision about 2024 today. But you're right. If we repurpose those funds. You know, then we, there would be that question of, well, whatever, we were really excited about that block party, whatever happened to that block party. So I, and I think I actually personally feel that way as well that, you know, if we, if we went a different direction between now and December, we would, you know, I think we owe it to the, to the idea. And to those folks who are interested in it to continue to explore the block and as Julian said, you know, maybe the bid won't be able to do it next year. And, but, but maybe we could find a different partner. Maybe some of these funds can go to a paying an event planner, you know, I mean, there are like, there are possibilities here. So I appreciate that point, Cody. Like capturing what you're, what you're getting at. That is an interesting idea. I have to say it hadn't even occurred to me, but, but that is an interesting idea. So, can I, can I piggyback on that? Yeah, please. But what if the 2500 comes through, right, or some decent portion of that. What if we piggyback on to the fall block party to specifically have some designated area and reception for our grantees and our work at the block party with those funds. Just an idea. That keeps some of it in this year it also keeps a sizable chunk of it for a meaningful event that's planned in advance properly. So, again, we'd be waiting to see about that other some of money and how much we have and whether it could support that but that would give us enough time and a lot of the grantees will be completing their events between now and then so whatever we would come up with as some sort of a community engagement with them I think they'd be better prepared than they might have been in May. Robin yeah. So just, in general, we can use up to 20% of the allocation each year for almost anything we want, as long as it's relevant. So, and you can change your mind I mean cove it everybody's been changing their minds and having to do other things. So in theory, it's not used at all it can go back into the next year's pool, and it can be taken out again, or it could be kept, and then another sum for 24. Yeah, 24 could also be allocated. So those possibilities, or, you know, using some of it. I'm not sure what the $2,500 grant was with the specifics of it was and what it says you have to do for, I don't know, maybe showcasing disabled artists, maybe doing a larger event there, or, or ethnic artists specifically I mean it would mean reaching out but we, you know, it could be any number of things we wanted to do, or not music. As much as I love music, we could focus on you know, theater or science geeks or something I mean we could do anything we want for the most part I mean within. Some culture but pretty much whatever we want so. So we could actually end up with more. If waited in the next year, you put more money into it. Yeah. I mean, Robert has to leave at 630 and and as somebody who's been kind of helping drive this I, I would rather not make a final decision without her in the car. I mean, we don't have to, but I will say this Robin is Robin is 100% right, you know that we could spend 2500. We could spend 500 in our local project. Okay, we can commit that to the fall block party. Now, and replenish that 7500 and replenish that in our next grant cycle that certainly would be, you know, an option for us to do. I, I think maybe we're it's a little premature. But what we want is a conversation with the bid to find out if this is something that they would be interested in accommodating. I think it's really worth pursuing because honestly, just when you said it Cody I just thought that really softens the blow to any grantee who was excited about this is at least, you know, we can't quite pull it off, but we can offer something this fall. Yeah, I'm with you there we're in no position to vote on it today because we don't we don't have, you know, the acceptance from the group that's organizing it but I think, given the factors here they should be supportive of that so I think we do have to to table it and not vote on anything specifically today but I really appreciate Cody that you brought up that idea I'm fully support and think that yeah it's a much better pivot than just wait a year. We'll do it. Very good great discussion. So Eleanor, I think with two minutes to spare I think you could be free to go when you're ready. Thanks so much for joining from. Thank you so much. Of course. I'm right now. I'm in Los Angeles and I'm in the Academy Museum. Yeah, like it's, it's really cool. I think it's a newer museum but if you're ever in the area I've really enjoyed it. Well my parents have died so I have no reason, even then I had no reason to go to LA because they lived in LA. Were they from there? No, New York. They moved to LA. I was 20 so I was there a lot. It's really cool. I mean it's really been rainy here which is a little unfortunate but we've done a lot of the cool inside stuff. Well the weather is lovely and Amherst you're really missing it. Well, I got the school campus is closed email today. Thank you. Bye guys. Thank you. No, I wasn't suggesting and I'm not going to hear you guys make a decision just with brainstorming ideas and possibilities so. I mean it's basically we have the creativity and person power to do. But you're absolutely right and that's it's a really good point is that we certainly can plan to replenish and plan you know we can plan safely for that down if that becomes an option. We should hear about the festivals grant to know how much that is I mean that's that's kind of past due and I do see that Rachel has her hand up as well. Yeah thank you for raising that idea Cody because as we were talking I was actually thinking like hey do we have to, you know, if we want to use that money in the fall then either I don't know what the scale of the block party would be and if we were to do something for our grantees in either a space that's associated with the block party in the fall or immediately before immediately after so that you know or the publicity is all ready done and we just tag on to that say the cultural is also hosting this because that timing seems ideal for promoting the next round of grant applications to right so it could be a venue for answering questions and and trying to attract more new applicants as well as just maybe having conversations with people who have received grants from the council in the past so I think timing and venue would both be be ideal. I think we should throw out this crazy idea of like what if we just did the petri kucha at the same time. You know, kind of anyway so since we're going to brainstorm storming and just throw that out there. I think with petri kucha we were leaving it at. Reboot from where where we were in the past and we haven't even started with outreach and we funded the other group. And so they're coming to Amherst and we get to kind of experience from there and build from there and iterate. So I'm, I'm comfortable with that at this point I'm committed to getting that going at some point here in the in the near but I think I'll be ready myself to address that in a few months and start you know, considering outreach and timing and and and setting, you know funds aside and I'd like that to not come from either of you know the 2500 to the 7500 at this point. I'm going to do it in a meaningful way and hopefully partner with someone to donate space and mitigate some of the costs we had in the past. Cody, please. I'm ready to bring up a good point like why not provide space for a grant here as I do it on this September. Before it starts to pick up because I just think there was a handful of grantees or I put into. Not knowing what to put on the grant app killed the chances also maybe we want to invite those who don't know the statement to performance. All right, well apply here and we get the senior center issue where we see 10 people. Yes, I couldn't agree more and I had that same thought when Rachel shared the idea I mean, we've done our best with the public info sessions to get the word out there, social media, etc, but physically having a table and a presence at that block party. You can have more conversations with folks about their applications. You know, and yeah, I agree with you 100%. I also think, you know, we are going to be down at least two spots. Come the summer come suit come now, as of right now. So I think, you know, if we're all smiling and we're in attendance and you know we look like, we, you know, look like well adjusted folks that people might enjoy working with. We might be able to recruit some counselors, you know, if we had a presence there too so I think there's just a lot of really great benefits to the idea and and Leah please. Yeah, I was going to say kind of along the same lines of Cody getting reconnecting and building relationships with past grantees and then potential new grantees and members. And I think having a presence at an event where like, it's already pretty well known a lot of people go and I think that that's like a nice like, almost like step into, because like the big block festival I think is a lot of things so it might be nice to have this presence and table and figure that out and then go to like a bigger thing. And then also, in terms of using money for things another like having some kind of a like working on outreach to potential new grantees and having I feel like it would be hard to at the block party have like a like info session about like help writing grants or what we're looking for, but maybe something to get over that barrier. We could think about, because that might not be a lot of funding like I would be happy to volunteer like do like a zoom or something like that. Yeah, absolutely. And I've shared this before but I do think, particularly for new grantees or folks who have been declined in the past, just having a personal relationship and email dialogue or phone call or zoom. You know that that has really helped a lot of folks get applications in. And I think if we're physically making a presence that you know that builds a connection with somebody and they're more likely to, you know, follow up and ask for help so so yeah, I'm completely completely with you. So I mean, we could we could go on with this for a while and I think new ideas are going to pop up. So we have a clear action step here here which is to, you know, get back to the bid and find out if it is feasible for us to have a dedicated space at the fall block party. And if so what kind of space. And actually I will say that I would like to get the word out to our grantees sooner rather than later that this is not happening in May. And so, you know, unfortunately I it's March 14. Now, if our next meeting is, you know, second Tuesday in April. That's too late for me to get the word out to those grantees I need to let them know this week I I almost did it before the meeting just because some folks are chomping at the bit but I thought let's let's talk first. I'm not going to make any promise to them about 2024 block party, obviously, you know, I mean I'll tell them that working we're working on other ideas. So I guess what I'm going to just tell them is like we're working on some contingency options and please stay tuned. And just keep it at non committal but but I feel compelled to put the word out there in the next week or two. I don't know. I'm kind of looking at you Julianne like, you know, it seems like we really need to let people know. And so I'm just, I will keep it non committal in terms of other things but I will tell them we're going to we're working on other opportunities to do a similar thing. That's not good. Yeah, and I agree it's not fair to anyone to delay any longer people are holding the date, you know, so we, yeah, absolutely. And not non committal but you know something positive and that just, you know, as it evolves will be in touch with those who responded, you know, as a priority. And I think I'll probably put something on our social media feeds as well because, you know, it hasn't been the subject of newspaper articles but it's been reported you know we've we've announced it. A couple of times and it's been reported in a few places so you know we need to scale that back as well. So why don't we, I think we're all going to keep thinking I will find out or Julianne and I will talk to the bid and sort of find out what their appetite is for for both fall and then you know, how are we going to begin to plan for next year, if at all. And then, but I think we have time to brainstorm and potentially come to you know come closer to a decision next month about, you know, using some set of money for for fall. So, do we want to move on to grant updates, Julian. You did. Hey, alright so the grant updates fall into two categories, basically for for 2022, and then also for 2023 I'll start with 2023 since that's the grant year that everyone is most familiar with. We have submitted the paperwork to the town to disperse most of the grants. There are, at this point, just a handful that we're waiting on just some final kind of documentation, whether it's correcting at W nine, or. I think that that's the majority of it that looks like that's 123 groups are are short some of the current year documentation we have two other groups that are still working on final grant reports for 2022 before we can release their funds so we are very very finished being done with all of the direct granting for 2023. In my interest, there are only two grantees who have not been in touch at all. And that amounts to the 1794 meeting house grantee who would have been awarded $145 and the society to benefit everyone who would have been awarded $95 so that to me at this moment looks like the sum total of what will be rolling through to to that has not been claimed does anyone have any questions about that. So it's been a pretty tidy process as as it turns out. So we're in really great shape so then moving on to 2022 I have fantastic news over there on one front which is to date at this point for every single grantee. And there were there were 59 of them. We have for 48 of them. We have received their final grant report documentation, which means, and then there were a handful of them five of them that have been extended who don't owe us a final grant report just yet. And this means that there are five remaining who have completed events that owe us final grant reports and the fantastic news as of this week is we have had communication from every single one of them that of those last five that if we don't have their final grant report that it is coming. So I just I just want to say this in support of our decision to move to direct granting and any of the concerns that were out there that people wouldn't be physically responsible or or just as far as the the paperwork to support this that they wouldn't be responsible that we've got a fantastic group of grantees who with a little bit of nudging and follow up of are they have mostly all and the rest are are about to comply so this has been great you know people travel they're out of the country I mean Lord people are working remotely from other countries because they can. So it's it's a whole different world as far as being in touch with people so we made a good decision and our grantees are working with us so the the next steps on 2022 is that Robin will be turning over all of the physical papers that she has either to me directly to Angela Angela is requested that we turn in all of that documentation. I have a pretty big chunk of digital documentation that I'll be working with Angela to turn that over. I'm sorry. We should talk you don't want to do that amount of work I have it all. I have it all in heart and please just give it to Angela. You'll just give it to Angela just literally transfer the stack of papers to her and we can take it from there. I do have a small amount of paperwork where I've been compiling the final grant reports and I think Robin you might have the physical grants so by the end of. March I am committed that we will both get all of that into Angela for her to take care of archiving it as she has requested from us. So and I think we're in great shape. Hopefully we'll have those last stragglers will be able to put those in there with them otherwise I'll have to extend just a little bit longer but I know this will be a huge weight off of you Robin to be able to to transfer that to the town to archive and Angela will be taking care of that so we are great. Yes Lea thank you. Just to get the notes accurate. Is it's 48 grantees have sent us the final grant report and are all set five have an extension and five have not submitted grant reports better in communication. There might be one in there. I don't know if I want those numbers there was. There was one who. There's one who never got his funds at all. So there there's a little bit of slop in here as far as folks who. Didn't do the paperwork so let me reply to you offline with the exact numbers of just grants there were and but we're in good shape as far as what's remaining. And is it important. We don't we haven't necessarily reported it in years past I brought it up from a numeric point of view solely to reassure everyone that we lost Lea I'm explaining this to. People are complying you know with a little nudging they are it's good. I would say probably one one area where we can improve going forward is spelling out how to use our logo and credit us. Most folks are crediting us in some way but you know if we want to be more particular about how they are required to credit us we we could do that in future grant years. So that's all interesting point. Because and I might be wrong on this MCC guidelines are very clear about the requirements to credit them. Not sure that our local guidelines are clear that we, and we can but I don't know that we we explicitly tell folks we need them to credit us directly. Don't we have a logo when I started here we didn't even have an official logo for folks to use to credit us so you know it's it's been evolving right. Let's make a note to check that. I think that's a good idea. The contract say. It's not as clear as the MCC is. Yeah, but it's not a mandate and I'm not sure that I'm sure we want to we want to mandate it but number two, it should be in our guide. Okay, so 22 said properly credit the Amherst cultural council and mass cultural council for their financial support access the ACC logo here. So, that's in the contract. You know in in folks defense if we not that we would have to defend them but you know it's kind of unfair for the grantees who completed their events. It's a calendar year before, you know, how are they supposed to go back and credit us when they didn't even know they were supposed to do it so there's some continuity issues that we have there as well with the way our grant cycle runs for 18 months. But is to the extent that we can clarify it and stick to that, you know for grant cycles going forward I think that will will help get the word out so great. So, I guess that's it do we have new business. We do not and we lost our we lost our secretary but which is okay we can fill in. She'll take from the notes in a recording meeting room. No she's not. No, she seems to have lost something. People should look for new members. Two or three I don't know if we is going to still be a member or not. Cody and Rachel. I mean, you know, as you as you go about your day if you come across Amherst residents who, you know, who are civically minded and have a cultural bent please, you know, just it's a very well you both know because you've both filled it out but the the CAF form community activity for CAF CAF Amherst to be Google it it's the first hit. It's quick to fill out and folks can, you know, folks can do that and please encourage them to do so quickly because I think Angela is as we speak probably working towards getting, you know, a crop for interviews. I did put it out on the social media. It's been two weeks ago and I'll I'll put it out again. But in my opinion it's always best to just if you can find a neighbor or a friend or a colleague or family member, you know, that's, I think it's always best to have a personal touch. Yeah, I can definitely share it. Yeah, it's actually I put it on the Facebook for the cultural council. And I'm, I'll just drop the link right in here it's just the Amherst. We able to use the chat. No, no, it's enabled okay. So, also, I, you might want to talk about because I won't be here. Are we punishing the high school students. Leia offered to take care of that I know she's on that. But Robert I think that's an important thing for us to keep pursuing it really brought a lot to us. So, okay, discussions with that with Angela to so she's aware. Yeah, she I think she may have been the one who brought in. I don't know. She is near and dear to our heart. I'll say that. Doesn't she live across the street from Leia. She can tell us or something. Does Angela live across the street from you Leia. Sorry I'm having just like tech issues with my phone and my computer. We've confirmed not only not only dear of it near. So we didn't have any new nodes for the minutes Leia but we were just we were just saying amongst ourselves the importance of trying to recruit new candidates. And then also that you were on top of sort of connecting with the right teachers and student groups at the high school and, you know, same goes for for Amherst college and and all of you know college students as well as high school students. All right, well I think we have. This is a really, really good discussion I want to thank you all very much for, you know, for being thoughtful and open minded and should we just go ahead now and just stick with second Tuesdays. Second Tuesday seems like it's consistent anyway. You know, it's not perfect for everybody but at least it's predictable. It's good. Great. All right, well then let's go ahead and call this meeting to adjourn and thank you all very much for your time and your work. Thanks all good to see you all. Bye care. Bye.