 It's not in a jar. It's actually not always in a jar, but that's kind of the generic term for it Well, I was at um, I was at a friend's house. He's much better cook than I am Italian and You know, he kind of gave me a task like oh, that's you know Like chop some garlic and I was like, where's your garlic press and he was like Garlic press. Why would you ever do that? You're taking all the good stuff out of it. What no He was like it's like it's like juicing a vegetable like you leave all the good stuff behind No, no, why do people make garlic presses then and why don't you garlic press it over? Whatever you're adding the garlic to and it allows the juice to permeate into it. I have never used a garlic press Oh garlic. I live by Never have you use a really sharp garlic press it remove the stuff from the press and leave all the stuff behind but Yeah, in in general I I don't have a dog in the fight of press versus no press But I am very much in the camp of always fresh garlic because the best tasting elements of it are from The rupturing of the cells. Yeah, yeah, you cut them I mean if someone's pressing the garlic and then scraping off the garlic then adding it then yes That's that's not right, but I always press my garlic right over Whatever I'm adding it to so the juice and everything just goes right on it Hey, Tom the knockout round is set in the World Cup I want to make a bet out here. Sure. Where do what do I do here? Who do you like? We got two minutes. I don't know where do I find the brackets? Maybe we can we can percolate it and Recirculate back afterwards. Yeah come up with a decision right now. Come on in brackets. There we go, baby That's what I'm looking for So Argentina Portugal Brazil Brazil Mexico, that's gonna be a time. That's gonna be a Brazil Mexico is gonna be pretty awesome Columbia somebody might die in the stands Very very Yeah, the lower bracket's gonna be the interesting one Russia'll probably beat Spain because they're in Russia. I don't know Russia might make it You think you guys should just put a a super long shot bet on Russia betting on Putin shenanigans I'd say Argentina Brazil in the semis for the upper bracket in the quarterfinals in other words, I don't know Russia probably and Russia is a very bad team if they were to If they were to win a single game it would be almost undeniable I don't think they'll go to the finals don't get me wrong But I think they they've got momentum because of the home crowd coming into the brackets They probably fall to Croatia and then and then Croatia is immediately annexed by Russia So who wins it all Brazil or Argentina whoever wins the semis wins the whole thing probably I would say Long shot favorites are Either Columbia or I kind of like England There yeah, they've got heart they law who is Mexico I wouldn't put it Mexico's complain with a lot of heart too except they they laid a huge egg It needed the South Koreans to beat Germany to get it to the knockout. You know what you guys need to lay There we go in three two Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday June 28th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from Viva Las Vegas. I'm Justin Robert. Yeah, and of course with us is our producer Roger Chang Hello, but I won't be with you for the rest of the show. Oh, are you taking my birthday off? Yes on honor of the anniversary of your birthday. I'm gonna watch my kid. All right. I like that It's a good. It's a good way to go. Let's start with a few tech things you should know Motorola will hold a press event August 2nd at 2 p.m. In Chicago to present a whole new way to connect in other words New phones probably the Z3 are the one power Researchers from hope I'm saying this right labra University Western General Hospital Right that the University of Edinburgh and the Edinburgh cancer center developed a deep learning based method to analyze Compounds in human breath to detect illnesses including cancer using Nvidia Tesla GPUs Cudnn accelerated carers and TensorFlow deep learning frameworks the neural network uses data from cancer patients receiving radio Therapy to build its knowledge base the work will be presented at the international joint conference on neural networks in Rio de Janeiro next month Instagram light for Android launched Wednesday in the Google Play app store Instagram light is just 573 kilobytes compared to Instagram's regular 32 megabyte main app and doesn't allow video posting or direct messaging options The app is designed for older phones with less storage space slower network connections and anyone with limited data plans Instagram owner Facebook launched Facebook light in 2015 and messenger light back in April and Wednesday Jaxa the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency Had their spacecraft Hayabusa to Successfully reach its target the asteroid 1 6 2 1 7 3 Ryugu after beginning its journey on December 3rd 2014 It's now 20 kilometers away from Yerugu, which is uniquely diamond shaped over the next month Hayabusa 2 will close the distance to 5 kilometers and start to map the surface of the asteroid with a possible Landing on Ryugu as early as September Hayabusa 2 will return a sample of that asteroid to Earth sometime in late 2020 all right, let's talk a little bit more about the latest leak around Apple's TV Plans there's always something the information reports this time that Apple may bundle music and TV and even magazine subscriptions into a single One subscription similar to Amazon Prime's model at least in theory customers could access Apple music Apple TV's premium content and Apple news premium content Apple's bought the distribution rights of lots of TV shows We keep talking about it, but we don't exactly know how Apple intend to sell all of this Yeah, this seems to be kind of a new trend it doesn't it That I think is beginning Amazon pioneered this idea of hey Prime means free shipping But also some free books also a free video service also This and that and this and that and it sounds like Apple's considering doing the same thing saying hey Let's just have an Apple service. Maybe we'll throw iCloud in there Maybe we'll throw you know this other thing because subscription services are the new hotness as a business plan in the economics world right now And everybody wants to do one. Well, I know we're weird It's still kind of remains to be seen what Apple will offer as far as TV shows go But I pay for Apple music ten bucks a month It's that's what it costs. So I pay it What do we think that price point would be for something like this if it were to be an all-in-all? Wouldn't be shocked if it's far from ten dollars a month I think that their idea being if we get more people at ten dollars a month and let's follow Amazon's model Amazon's model initially was Hey get two-day free shipping. That's the deal and guess what the deal opposite to Lando Calrissian in the Empire Only gets better every time that they make an announcement So they are always adding new reasons why and you know the price might go up a little bit here and again But ultimately I think Apple's best play here, which by the way, they have been terrible about subscription stuff Previously their web services have almost historically been countered to the rest of that company a Gigantic failure point for them up until Apple music became a major player in that field So the idea that they could do it I think is To me very very interesting because if they are able to make it succeed if it's more like Apple music and less like iCloud That is a good way that they can immediately turn on the gigantic user base They have that can hit there I will subscribe because we already have that already has our credit cards. We can hit that in one button immediately I Think they I think you might see them go with like $15 maybe even $20 because they're Apple and they know they can get it And and bundle in as much of those things together I'm looking at DC universe that launched today to where instead of just doing an unlimited comic service like Marvel does digitally They're doing comics and TV shows and movies in the DC universe produced by Warner Brothers Both the old Superman movies from back in the day, but also upcoming originals I think we're going to see more of these kinds of things and the prices are going to be all over the place because it's a It's a brave new world Nobody really knows what the proper price for this kind of bundled service is but very few people Other than Apple and Amazon have the ability to go at scale that they do and that's why I think they're going to try to make it a killer price point Niantic announced it will open its AR platform to third-party developers The platform is used in ingress Harry Potter wizards unite and Pokemon go Niantic is also acquiring London's matrix mill Which focuses on computer vision and machine learning Niantic recently acquired Esher reality Which does cross-platform shared AR experiences? Niantic showed off new techniques. Thanks to the acquisitions Including one that allows Pikachu and other creatures to hide behind real-world objects and low latency connections for shared experiences across devices developers can find out more at Niantic labs comm slash developers It's pretty pretty smart for Niantic to say we're going to take the platform that we're using in multiple places and Open it up to third parties and monetize it that way as well because I don't think they lose anything from that Well, not when their biggest hits are IP licensing right so that they want to become the unreal engine for these AR kinds of games and then if they can get a persistence a persistent licensing fee on the next big thing in this space that's better than just somebody else in this space taking the kind of things that they already have and And and going off and then from a developer perspective Being able to spin up so much faster with something that is very data that is very hard to gather in general is a great idea Yeah, it seems like an aggressive expansion because it's not just the company saying hey, you know We we can't possibly do all this AR ourselves. Let's open it up to third-party developers and make something like Pokemon Go a bigger thing than what we would do. They're also buying companies to aid the separate twos. Yeah It's it feels like Amazon Realizing oh that cloud data center System that we built to serve our retail could be a platform that we sell to others You know, let's make some money off that it feels like the realization of oh, we built all this stuff We had a few more pieces by acquiring a few more companies and suddenly we've got a pretty amazing offer also Pokemon Go just added friends and trading this month Something that you would think would be a key feature to a Pokemon game at launch day They do not move very fast. This is a way for them to make money with other people that are moving faster Google has invested twenty two million dollars in chaos. That's K. A. I. O. S. It's a company that makes an operating system for smart feature phones These are basically feature phones that have limited app use, but they do have a sort of an app store kind of feature They're just not as powerful as your high-end smartphone chaos is based on a fork of the now defunct Firefox OS and Because of the investment from Google chaos will integrate more Google services things like search maps YouTube Google Assistant, etc Feature phone sales are growing faster than smartphone sales right now because feature phones can have apps and things like that so they're almost as capable as like a trio was back in the day and Counterpoint estimates that chaos shipped about 23 million phones in Q1 That's up eleven thousand four hundred percent on the year Although it's always high when you go from a very low number at the start chaos runs on the geo phones from reliance in India Making chaos the second most popular OS in India behind Android and in front of IOS Chaos also runs on the phones that HMD makes for Nokia Runs on micro max runs on Alcatel and I think this is another developing market That's worth paying attention to is this sort of middle ground smart feature phone sounds like a misnomer But essentially it's it's a low-powered phone So it can be very inexpensive But it has just enough power to run light apps like we heard Instagram Is creating as well as web apps So this could be the thing that makes web apps finally get some traction and get a little more development love But everybody wants in on this light app market because they know this is the place that is going to still grow Whereas the smartphone market may be getting saturated. Yeah, you you you you literally just said it Market share market share market share look for it high and this is them looking for it low Yeah by low sell high exactly. Well, yeah, my first question when I Originally read the story was well Why wouldn't Google just make some sort of a light Android version? But it sounds like because of chaos is ubiquity, especially in India and some other markets That it makes more sense for Google to invest in something that people are already using and liking rather than get them to switch All over to something else. Yeah, because they have Android go Which is their their attempt to target this market with an Android version But they're smart enough to realize well shoot If chaos is the number two and we have Android and Android go we could have the number one two and three Out of those three possibly so yeah It's a good move on their part. You know go go where the market is and and I think if you get enough people Who are using the Google services because they have a phone powered by chaos? You're more likely to have them upgrade to an Android phone because of those Google services. I like the name chaos That's my chaos theory professor Reminds me of professor chaos Amazon announced show mode, which is a free software update rolling out July 2nd for current gen fire HD 8 and fire HD 10 tablets. It's actually similar to the Echo show So the new show mode will show full-screen visuals that correspond to voice responses from Amazon's assistant We know who she is such as trendy news or weather or calendars or camera feeds that kind of stuff Amazon also announced the show mode charging dock It's a docking station for current gen fire HD 8 and 10 tablets with a magnetic cover That props up the tablet as well so you can look at the visuals The dock supports inductive charging has a micro USB cable cost 40 bucks for the HD 8 55 for the HD 10 and a shipping July 12th Yeah, you can do something like this with the fire TV cube as well If you want to leave your TV on you can have it go into show mode and and have those same kind of slides show up I Wonder how many people are really gonna go for the dock, but I guess if you want a charging Device, maybe you'll spend a couple extra bucks to do this instead of buying an Amazon Echo show I just don't have a good handle on how many people really want this kind of device around Their house. I like my Amazon Echo show, but I don't hear people talking about it a lot I don't either. Um, in fact, every time you mention it, I'm like, you do Not that you're not using it, but I mean, this is great. Hey, if you got a fire HD 8 or 10 This is, you know, one of the new ones anyway I I I'd love visuals if I had a device that supported that I don't currently see whenever whenever we talk about These kinds of functionalities The biggest thing I see them in is not in tablets and not in a a separate device It's on televisions and that's where I think this is going to eventually that that that is the end game For amazon they want to perfect this kind of tech and how people use it know what people want from it and then say now Here's the place where you spend $300 on an amazon television I wonder how many people out there Will use this even more like a television people use tablets like televisions Especially younger folks in smaller places where they might have to have room to put a to big big lcd or big led screen somewhere All right, and so the idea of having a charging dock where you're like, oh, I can actually set it You know over there and view it as a television I mean can't set it very far at 10 inches But but still it feels a little more like a television experience that way Amazon announced it's acquiring online pharmacy pill pack Which packages organizes and delivers drugs with the specific number of medications consumers are supposed to take at a specific time Terms of the deal weren't disclosed, but the deal is expected to close in the second half of the year Oh my this may be the biggest impact of the stories we have today Uh back in april We were doing stories on dts about how cnbc had reported that amazon was backing away From the idea of getting into the prescription drug market That they found the hospital buying system to be too complex And they were no longer going to apply for the permissions they needed to create a nationwide pharmaceutical delivery System and everyone rejoiced and the stock market started buying cvs and wallgreen stock again Today they're doing the opposite because it turns out what amazon was doing is said Oh, you know what instead of build this one. Let's buy it And pill pack is a compelling offering. They have a licensed operate in all 50 states They have a service that not only delivers your your prescriptions to you But they work with doctors to create packaging that makes it easy to tell What you should take and win so it's perfect for people with multiple medications because everything you need is in one pack For that day if you want it to be delivered that way So this is huge for amazon amazon just bought their way into the pharmaceuticals market And that is something that has the health care industry at least the people who will compete with them shaking in the boots And look we have a rapidly evolving health care market right now And you've seen as as the cvs's of the world are buying into Uh, you know buying into it that that we are In 10 to 15 years the way we think about who we buy our health care from and how we interact with it We'll be very very different than it is right now to think that amazon wasn't going to get into this gigantic massive Guaranteed cash cow when delivery is so much of a crucial step forward on it I think was foolhardy. This is an absolute slam dunk. I think for amazon Well, I mean of all the things that amazon offers the company does really well with anything that people are like Oh, I buy this regularly. So let's just get on a schedule. So pill pack is a perfect example of that I mean, maybe even more so than toilet paper. Although, you know, I'm not judging anybody But but if you know, you're you're you're you're taking your drugs at very specific times Yeah, the organization aspect of it is also very important the online delivery aspect of it is very important I don't exactly know what uh pill pack puts on top of what the prescriptions already cost in order to deliver to you One might think that amazon could bring that price down a little bit and get more people to jump on board Because that's what amazon does. Yeah, imagine if uh prime subscribers now get free delivery through pill pack, right? I don't want to be sick anymore. Yeah, I was on prime It sure is good for what ails you literally like what the doctor has decided has ails you Um, yeah, I I I do think that this uh, this is this is this is big And it does bring up the question of how many things do we want amazon to be involved in? I mean, how many things do we want google to be involved in? How many things do we want facebook to be involved in etc? Those are all valid questions amazon is quickly conquering multiple markets logistics Publishing video production. I mean, they're not monopolies in all of these areas, but they are dominant cloud But here's why here's why amazon stepping into this I think is something that people will feel a little better about Because amazon's greatest contribution as a company was logistics It figured out how to get these things to you cheaper faster And if that's what they're good at if that's the basis the foundation Of what they're good at in the way that google's basis of foundation Is figuring out how to sell ads and the basis of apple is figuring out how to build cool hardware that melds with the software They also make for it then I think we're all okay with medicine getting to us faster and cheaper Yeah, as long as uh amazon Bones all the groceries I buy right. I mean at some point, uh use your powers for good, please As as as somebody who already gets their health care by way of an amazon employee program Let me just say that I for one welcome our new overlords Yeah, I wouldn't want comcast as someone who gets his health care from someone who works for npc universal Getting into this game necessarily. So, uh, yeah I don't know it makes me it makes me a little nervous still. Oh, that's all I gotta say Uh, here's something that makes everyone nervous surveys a new survey from pure research center pulling 4594 us adults Finds a 43 of people in the us think major tech companies support liberal Over conservative views 11 percent say they support the views of conservatives over liberals because big business I guess and 43 say they support equally So the headline is 43 of americans think major tech companies support liberal views But you could also say 43 percent think they are equal Uh, but they definitely is the minority think that they're conservative 33 believe these same companies support male views over female views while 55 percent say it's equal between the two 72 of those polls say social media platforms probably censor Political views that those companies find objectionable 53 of people in the us think it's more important for people to feel welcome and safe online That it is for people to be able to speak their minds freely in digital spaces So they say, oh, yeah, they censor But most of us think that's okay Uh 74 percent said the impact of major technology companies on their own lives has been more good than bad While 36 percent of americans say the impact of these companies on society as a whole has on balance been more bad than good So even though they say, oh, they're censoring. They're probably liberal But you know what they still, you know, they still have improved my life Uh And 51 percent of the us think they should be regulated more Though interestingly america ranked tech companies behind pharmaceutical companies, although One's becoming a pharmaceutical company a little faster than others Uh pharmaceutical companies banks advertisers and the energy industry All thought to have too much power and influence in the economy more so than tech companies Even though tech companies are the biggest companies in the us by market cap Well, uh, I mean, I'm not going to go through these line by line But companies supporting male views over female and again, I was not somebody that was pulled in the study But one would think that would be the case just because most of these businesses are predominantly run by men So that would just be something that you would probably think Um, as far as whether or not, especially social companies are Bad versus good. I mean, that's a question. I ask myself all the time and it depends on the day I think probably most of the time I think social networks are Better than they are bad because I can connect with people. I wouldn't see or hear otherwise But yeah, we you know, we have these ongoing conversations about society in general and and you know, how it's some of some of these tools even though they're Meant to connect can be yeah manipulative and sort of damaging to to to the way that we've done things As far as liberal and conservative I think uh, you probably You know, you ask somebody who's a liberal and they'll say Well, it's you know, they they're bearing toward the conservatives, you know Well, actually, according to the survey asked someone that's a liberal They're likely to say it's pretty equal which makes me feel maybe it is shifted a little liberal because if you see something You agree with you think it's more balanced As far as that goes I would be curious to compare that to let's say Publishing and media in general because I think that I see a lot of the similar trends with like, all right Well, yeah, of course, they're liberal they're from this bastion of This liberal enclave of the bay area right in the same way that Publishing is from traditionally this liberal enclave of new york and All the attendant colleges and stuff that that feed into it The curious thing about whether or not it's good or bad Is that if you go from and I wish we had this historical data of Asking this exact question from the invention of fire Until now with all the frankensteins in between Right, I suspect that we would probably have a number around this if not worse People always seem to think that the inevitable march of technology. Hold on the key here is 74% said the impact of major technology Companies has been more good than bad. That's what I'm saying I think this is like they're saying yeah the devices they make those are great the way they behave I don't like that and that's a yeah, that's that's my point is that I think this is grading on the curve of history A a sterling report because I would suspect that it might come in lower because there was always anxiety about these kinds of Inventions well what before I move on just one one of the other points 53% So just over half of those pulled thought that it was more important to feel welcome and safe Than to have people be able to speak their minds You know, it's that whole free speech thing which is something that lots of these companies are grappling with because people say You know, I you know this sucks. I hate it here You know, I'm being you know harassed and you have to build better tools in order for me to want to be here but of course Just under those half the other half of people are like well, but that's not how this works and Depending on the company, of course as we know Some companies are they lean more towards the free speech arena, but it is interesting that we're really kind of split in the middle on that one and I don't know how that changes I mean, I always look at twitter as an example because people will something terrible will happen and I see a bunch of people who are like at replying jack is the CEO of twitter Yeah, you got to do something you got to do something and social networks amplify negative news Yes, and negative news about social networks also gets amplified on social networks So it makes sense that the feeling might tilt that way That's because of course as we all know the first conversation on the telephone was a conversation about how cool it was to talk on a telephone Which means that there will always be Conversations about the platform on the platform the one thing that I will say about that is I think that that tracks to what the defining Conversation of our current ages about hey, well, what about Bringing in more voices that seems to be writ large at the base of so many of the conversations we are having right now us supermarket chain Kroger announced it's partnering with neuro to launch a fully driverless delivery service with a pilot set for this fall In a city which has not been announced yet neuro will use a fleet of self-driving test vehicles with human safety drivers to make deliveries for kroger's grocery stores If you haven't heard of neuro neuro was founded by two veterans of google's self-driving car team The company came out of stealth back in january with the r1 compact vehicle Which kind of looks like a smushed van very cute Let's go krogering becomes let the krogering come to us Let's go krogering a uh slogan that was their slogan. Yeah back in the 80s And it's I actually have krogers. I I don't have a kroger in my area But it's the largest u.s. Supermarket chain. I believe kroger owns Ralph's got it. Okay. Yeah, so Uh, I I've a great move for kroger when they're looking at amazon coming in and eating that entire industry to say Let's get ahead of this Let's be one of the first grocery stores to have self-driving cars a it might be more efficient And it certainly is going to make a splash in the papers And the question is now how fast is fast in that entire market? And and and is it viable for a kroger like can you layer on top of Your local neighborhood grocery store the idea to get something fast enough to you that people are excited or And I guess this is kroger's pitch with this up with the driverless cars Is it at cheap or free? To buy from us and have a have us get it to you Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to them at dailytech headlines.com Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com keeping that alive Lots of good conversations happening there as well as facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show But what's in the mailbag sarah glad you asked tom alex from new york city had some thoughts on duplex from our conversation Yesterday and he had some good points alex says i can imagine a scenario where i would tell duplex to find a dinner reservation for me after a movie that i'm already going to see I could tell it to use the default rules which would include something like a rating So want to make sure the department of health has signed off on this restaurant four stars are better on yellow per open table Three dollar signs are less don't want to pay too much Five minutes away from the venue or on the path of the way home And then compare it to the places that i've already starred in my google maps, which some people do a lot Then it could take all that input call various places to see if there was anything available If i find a place on the way home it could adjust the reservation time depending on how far away from the venue Or the places etc And he said tom you made a good comment and good day internet because we talked about this a little bit later After the show yesterday that duplex's current iteration is really just the first step Of many to get to that glorious future of an actual personal digital assistant that we're all going for Yeah, also We had several people write in and say i don't like talking on the phone or i have legitimate anxiety about talking on the phone And this would be a godsend for me Because i will do things that i would avoid otherwise Because otherwise i just i just don't want to talk to people and i count myself among them I will resist calling a place Because i just don't want to have to talk to somebody and and this sounds amazing for that as well Justin what do you think are you weirded out by the uh, the the the realistic Google duplex voice or is that not an issue for you? I actually wish that We would get to the step beyond this where Google can just make uh, uh a a realistic or just a computer that can talk to my computer for everything Like if this is the bridge to get to there Where we have to have a fake human talk to the human because the restaurant Isn't tech savvy enough to put something On you know their website or or something like that that i can just interact with Uh in in a more granular way than sure i'm fine with it But also like i used to be a reporter so calling strangers was kind of my job for a bit I have a little bit less anxiety about calling random people, but i would also Like to be able to just do it in five seconds on an app I always prefer to use an app in any uh situation In general, so yeah, i'm fine with it, but i don't necessarily think That it's something that i would use all the time Well, you know what we're happy about the fact that you're really still a human justin robert young Thanks for being on the show today and let folks know where they can keep up with your work Well, you want to know what here's the best way that you can get in touch with me Go on over to free political newsletter dot com. 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Fuck you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com The retirement club hopes you have enjoyed this bro We've been getting a lot of good day internet me email we have I know I know Lots of good lots of lots of people talking about recipe ideas And just the extended conversation and there's the the shortening to gdi like the first couple times I saw it I was like what what's that? Oh, yeah, that's our show. You're like that's rude. Oh, no good day I see well because at first I'm sort of like it sounds like gi track. Oh, oh that too. Yeah gdi or like a um Like a Volkswagen model. It's like the Volkswagen Oh, yeah, I would think it sounds like a uh, Like a like a drone like oh, I got the new Gdi drone. Oh the mavic gdi. Yeah, man with all the gimbals Oh, it's great So many gimbals stands for gimbal Gimbals damn it I know I know we all noticed that Justin pronounced GIF correctly Oh, hey, has that flared up again? No, I just like to troll people like once every couple weeks And then I get a bunch of people on twitter being like the founder himself The guy who invented it. It's not pronounced traffic interchange format It's just it's one of those like I don't care at all. I say it the way I say it It does not bother me, but it bothers so many people The reason why is because There are certain words and I fall afoul of at least two of them that people will consistently Hound me on one of them is S especially being Especially which I am a guilty person for That I say especially right and the other is nuclear versus nuclear Well, so especially I would I mean, I probably wouldn't be like just but I would notice and be like Why is he adding that X in there? But but you're not the only person Nuclear versus nuclear is one of these things where it seems so easy to me But so many people I know just it's just a thing. He just it's almost like there's a Dyslexia thing going on in the brain with so many people My dad couldn't say it right. He I had to say it, but he couldn't say it out loud, right? I almost think that like and I don't know what accent it would be But to me, they don't really sound all that different and and I don't feel like I am pronouncing them all that different Nuclear and nuclear When I yes Yeah, they're I mean no one's gonna be like, what did you say? I don't know that word but no, no I think yeah I think it really came to prominence because it was like a bugaboo for people with the you mean pro minutes w bush What? nothing Um, I'm just trolling Yeah, it kind of started to be this thing where it's like the president got it wrong He should know, you know how to say nuclear and so it kind of turned into like If you say it wrong, somehow you're not that yeah, yeah I think I you you would you inherit all that guff that was ginned up Back in the back in the odds But I think uh, I don't know it is it is very very weird that like People get so fired up about it when it like it because I kind of I'm gonna jam like All those words all those letters because of the manner in which I talk are gonna be jammed together Anyway, if I say nuclear or nuclear Like it's arts And it's sort of hard to be like Justin, I can't believe you got that wrong because it's not just you. This is a very very common Our managing editor at tech tv.com Said I I believe spoken language has looser restrictions than written language Uh, because he was you know, he ran the copy desk and so he was very meticulous about you know What how things should be spelled and we had a style guide, uh, but on air He's like, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go through and start criticizing The the pronunciations and and and or even the grammar of people on air Because he said it with spoken language as long as your meaning is made clear That's all that's important with written language. It's going to be used for reference It's going to be looked at over and over but spoken language is more ephemeral was his justification So you don't need to be a strict about it and that has always stuck with me I try to pronounce things correctly as often as possible But I also don't really like kill crack down on people If they're pronouncing something consistently like like especially or or nuclear or whatever Because I if I know what they're saying, you know, if I'm not confused if they're if you're not as pronouncing especially Asparagus then I I know what you're saying is well also I so I changed I I made a conscious effort to work on yeah, especially versus especially Uh, because you know, I looked at it and it's like all right. Look that that's what it looks like Nuclear versus nuclear It's spelled if you if you just say what you see in front of you you get no no, it's nuclear You you the L is in two different places. It's similar But Well, no if you say nuclear you're putting an extra syllable between the C and the L But I think I see what Justin's saying. It's nuclear Yeah, uh-huh I'm trying to now. I'm trying to think of like there's problems somebody write in let me know There's probably a word that I constantly don't get right. I can't think of what it is I do notice this is not something that I do but mischievous That's not how you say it. It's mischievous. But everybody says mischievous and it's like if there's no point in correcting Accepted pronunciation, you know, or there's there's there's millions of examples of those Where we don't say it the way it's spelled because over time It became acceptable to not say it the way it was spelled right enough is not spelled enough It's spelled enough. Yeah, but we stopped saying enough Centuries ago. Did we ever say enough? Yeah, it comes from a Of a it may be a saxon I'm a little unclear about that but the roots were from one of those guttural languages somebody If he got saxon wrong, I'm we should do a dTns with everything that ends in a gh that way And I'm I'm certainly not doing it. I'm certainly not doing it Right the way it was originally done in whatever guttural language it originated in but that's where that spelling came from and it just slowly Elated into an f And that but we never changed the spelling. That's the only thing is that at the end of the day None of the things that I do I think are big enough for me to be Squandering or to be turning away new listeners for whom Might find that pronunciation to be nails on a chalkboard for me to not Just try to do it the way that people are complaining that I should change it to because it's not like I went From x specially to s specially and then I wound up getting a bunch of emails saying what sell out What did you change? I was here for the x I'm from the future and we only say especially now So it sounds wrong and snooty for you to say s special our hero. We built our language on your x You've changed humanity Well, or how about, you know the phrase I could care less That's how wrong. It's wrong. It's the opposite of what you mean. I could not care less But like but like you know sort of explaining that to someone is just like there's just no point We all know exactly the thing it's like I get people who who point that out or even sometimes compliment like I was so glad to hear you say I couldn't care less Because that is the correct phrase and it's it's like you say jester like I try to say it right because that will cause fewer emails But when someone says I could care less. I know exactly what they mean That actually bugs me because that's just a turn of phrase and whether or not it meek makes literal sense is we don't care about that with A million different things a million different turns of phrase don't make literal sense or are Almost the opposite of what we are saying. It's just that we know what that means when you use that turn of phrase It's just a funny way to be because the whole point is like I don't care. I don't care Yeah, it's like if you were you know, you're you're driving that point home It's a funny way that we've Evolved to you know to to send that message. I don't know where it came from I don't know if it was just people getting it wrong enough that we all just adopted it, but I don't think I would I don't know. Someone will have to I couldn't care less. I could care less I think I would say I could care less. I could care less is more like you're just kind of vernacular Yeah, no, I think it's just a I don't know somebody I could care less, but I don't because that's how little I care. I'm not even going to bother to try to care less Yeah I care like a grain of sand Just a little so it's not I literally could care not infinity Yeah, maybe I can care less is more precise like listen. I could care less but I will not because I actually I think on a like an old good day under net I'd said, you know, I made a joke of like infinity plus one and Roger was like, well But infinity is already infinity get out of here. Yeah, I was like That's something that people well because that's literally because it's an emphasis. Yes. No, that's that is a Literally that point holds it's like yes If we were to understand if even the unquantifiable Infinity were quantifiable. I would go add one to it. Right like like that's that to me. That's that's a great The complete turn of phrase, right? It's perfect. I use it all the time Well, anyway, you can't do an infinite amount of time. You just like If you really understood infinity then your math is a little bit weird Infinity plus one is is a valid mathematical concept though Is it? Yeah Because we will someone who understands math more than me. Please write in and make it intelligible why but Yeah, I'm not arguing the idea of infinity being able to be added to is is is useful in math I mean you can write it out, right? That's true. You can write infinity symbol plus one And you can say even if it is an indefinable number if you can write it a number That for which you could add one too How about just the infinity is perpetually adding one? Yeah, la roman says there are different types of infinities. That's true. What? Yeah There's an infinity war the infinity gone The infinity stones sure sure there's an infinity scar Yeah, so many types We're at five infinities right now. Oh my gosh. Well, I think well infinity scarf just means there an infinite number Probably I think uh, let's see if I can find something that's infinity here Something circular. Well, here's here's one that always bugs me if I think about it too much I have to go Have is defined as Possessing right? I have this mug. I have hair I have to go is I'm possessing An action to go Literally doesn't That's interesting. Oh, I guess But you can So so so what you're saying is what would make more sense is I need to go I need to go Yeah, I need to go and we say I have to go I have to go I have to go-ness and therefore I must act upon it It's kind of the application. Well, it's also and that kind of like turns into you start learning other languages Right, you know in English. We say I'm however many years old in Spanish. It's I have this many years This is a thing that is, you know, you know, I I but you don't say Tango ear. I have to go that doesn't make any sense in Spanish No How do you say it in Spanish? 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