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Well, I mean, at least without getting into like, without sounding sexist over it. Like, I know Jesus, I don't know if I could do it politically correct. Here's the thing. As a dad, I was scared to death to have a daughter first. And one, I'm a man. So having a boy, I feel like right out the gates, we have enough in common that I could figure my way out, like a little bit better, right? Where I don't know what it's like to be a woman. So to parent a woman automatically puts me at a disadvantage, right? I think Katrina would have a better advantage with a daughter than I would. So that right there. Yeah. And then the fear of what would I do if I had a beautiful daughter that all the men in school want her? And how do I, how would I handle that? That's because you, because you know what the problem with that is, is you remember how you? Yes, of course. Of course. And I, and this is, I also believe in God. So I believe he has a sense of humor and he has a way of giving you twin girls. And they're gorgeous. And you know, saying, and then it just takes you back to like all the thoughts you had about girls when you were a teenage boy. And so that scares the shit out of them. So, and then you add in the fact of makeup and hair products and stuff everywhere. Like I just, and then rebelling on you, you know, like you're bringing home some dude, it's like all like, you know, on a bike. And girls are smarter. That's, they are definitely more cunning. Yes. Especially at that age, right? At that, at that age, I feel like there's a major gap. Yeah, you can read your typically you can read a teenage boy pretty well. My mom is a teenage girl can run circles around her dad. My mom used to say that about all of us boys. She'd say, you know, anytime I was lying, she said, I'd have a big sign on my forehead just as liar, liar. You can say, but her daughters, yes, she they could look her straight in the eye. A vein in my forehead that would just like pulsate. Yeah, it was just too obvious. We're dumb and clumsy, dude. So this, so a study came out. So why I'm bringing this up, right? A study came out that shot. This was a funny, a funny study that showed that having a teenage daughter increases your risk of divorce by five percent. That was so funny. Yeah. Now the now the authors of the study said it had to do with the the father having values that were different than what the daughter wanted to do. And then the mother siding with the daughter and that causing a rift in the relationship. So you know, here's the deal when you look at statistics, right? If a if a girl if a girl rebels, she is less likely to kill herself or kill others. What I mean by that is she's less likely to become addicted to drugs, drive a car fast, run into someone getting fights, go to jail. But she is generally more likely to rebel and do stuff to the opposite of what you want her to do. So it's like if you have a boy that rebels bad, that can turn real bad. If you have a girl that rebels bad, it's usually a little bit better off. But yeah, I think I think I'm with you. Like I think having a teenage daughter would just feel harder because I because I'm a guy. So I relate more to the right boy. So I'd be like, okay, I know what's going on here. Whereas with the girl, I'd be a little bit more. Well, doesn't also speak more to the to the couple's relationship of like their value system and how they're in unison and in line with, you know, how they're presenting that to their kids. Yeah. And I'm not and I'm not gonna lie, dude, there's there is a bit of a double standard as a father I would have with my teenage boy and my teenage girl. I have to admit that if my teenage boy, you know, wanted to go out to some party and stay till two in the morning and he's 16 and stuff like that, I'm less I'm more likely to be lenient about that than my daughter. I just feel like I would be more worried about her where hit where him I would be more like, you know, watch your back, make sure you're smart. Don't be stupid. Don't do anything dumb. My daughter I'm not thinking about her, you know, not being smart. I'm thinking about other people past midnight and the stupid shit that they well, you know, so here's the thing when people talk about that being a double standard and how it's wrong, I can see their perspective, but there's also reality and the reality is a female is far more likely to be assaulted is far more likely to be sexually harassed. And just in general, you know, they're just let there tend to be less capable of physically defending themselves right because they're not as big and strong as boy. So the realistically speaking, I mean, that is true. If you're being objective, it's like, okay, if my daughter's out late at night, she's more likely to potentially get assaulted than my son. But then this other side, your son is more likely to drunk drive more likely to do drugs and do stupid risky shit like jump off a roof into a pool because I feel more comfortable. I feel more comfortable having the conversation with my son doing something stupid afterwards and correcting him. Then you can't control other people. Exactly. Then something happening to my daughter that I fucking can't live with because I allowed it to raise your voice a little bit. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you know, a complete disaster. Well, no, I just, I mean, you have a you your daughter like you just said, okay, my son's more likely to go, let's say extreme situations in both, right? My son is more likely to go commit a crime or do something. And I because I let him stay out until now, right? He's the chances are increased. So that conversation the next morning for me, I can live with that of like, what the fuck did you do? And having that conversation. If my daughter is more likely to be assaulted or something happened to her, I can't live with that. I would have a hard time dealing with that. That's not me sitting her down and being like, you fucked up, you know, something happened to her and that is more likely to happen. You feel like less control. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's a lot of people out there that you can't talk to you, right? Right. Your son or whatever. I know it's just one of the I have two boys and then I have a daughter and I think about this kind of all the time. Like, you know, as they get older and they're going out and they're doing stuff, but you got to look at the statistics and see what, but I just thought this was a hilarious study that literally the title was having a teenage daughter increases your risk of divorce by like, oh, that makes sense. Now, here's some more interesting statistics. So a daughter is more likely to take care of their older parents or elderly parents than a son is. You guys know that? Is that true? Yeah. Really? That's true. So daughters more likely to take care of... More compassionate. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's the stereotype, right? But the... Now, does care include financial responsibility too? Because I know in my family, like the men have taken care of the parents financially and maybe the wives or the daughters have done the bathing and the cooking and the helping like that. Is it all in general or is it specific like that? No. What does care mean? Like, they're more likely to, all of it. They're more likely to be, yeah, to take care of and be involved in that kind of stuff. And that kind of makes sense. I mean, obviously, I have, like I said, I have a son and a daughter, two sons and a daughter. It's all awesome. I love it. And they're all totally different. And we're now speaking in generalities, but it is pretty, it is pretty funny. And they are very good with typically they advance faster than boys emotionally and with their communication. So they are better at reading a room or reading mom and dad, knowing how to talk to them and doing that kind of stuff. Whereas your boys are just like, yeah, nice try, buddy. I know exactly so anyway, but I thought that was a funny. That is hilarious. Now how you are, okay, so your son is how old right now? 15. And daughter is 11. Okay. Now you're so she's like, she's next year, probably next year, this is when you probably get the more challenging stuff. She's getting close, right? She's already doing the whole, I mean, and again, this is just her personality. So I don't know if this has anything to do with her being a girl, but she definitely has this moody thing when she, especially when she wakes up in the morning. She did this yesterday. I woke her up and she's just in a bad mood for no reason. My son is pretty baseline. Like I like on a scale of one to 10, he's always a four or five, like always there. She bounces between an eight and a three. And sometimes I have no idea which one I'm going to get. So say, Hey, good morning. Huh? Well, okay, what's a three today? Just gonna talk to her too much. I think that's teenagers in general, though. Yeah, that way. Do you guys have any friends with teenage kids and just ever asked them about that? Not teenage yet. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently the worst age. It's it's rough, you know, it's just it's one of those things like, you notice right away that they just don't they don't care as much about, you know, informing you about what they're doing. Like they're just like very much more to themselves once it gets to the teenage years and they just want to like do their own thing and you're just a pain in their ass and like embarrass them. And that's all I've heard from my friends. I actually wish that you guys would both share more about the challenges. I know you try and you I know you don't like to air out your personal information or family stuff. Like but I like selfishly and I'm sure the audience, there's people that I would like to hear the things that like you're challenged with with both with the whatever you're going through with the kids at being a guy who has got a young very young and early and first time father, you know, I and I just I did an interview yesterday with Brandon Carter for the DILF wisdom thing and, you know, asking him questions. And it's it's crazy like I'm talking to him and I'm like, man, there are so many things that I said I wasn't going to do that I've already done already. So I'm always curious to like these these things that you guys is foreseen or thought you were going to do and then or made a mistake. You did or you try to implement with your kids and then you failed like that stuff intrigues me. I wish you guys would share more of that. You know, my favorite is and you'll you'll hear this now to Adam is people who don't have kids who say this like, Oh, well, if I was a parent, I would always do that. I'd never do that. Or yeah, that's easy. You should. And you just like, yeah, okay, buddy. Well, I've already been that guy. So I've already been that guy, right? So I said there's some things and I admit that, right? I said like, I was not going to do this. I was not going to do that. And I've already broken that. So one example of that was originally I was like, never TV, like TV was not going to be introduced to is like fucking 15. You know, that was like that not really I wasn't really thinking till 15. But I my thought process was until he became aware of really what television was and could like, you know, verbalize it to me and say, dad, can I watch the show? Like I was like, that's when I'll deal with it until then. So long as I can control it, I wasn't going to allow. But what ended up happening is that I found the power of it. I found the power of it for when I'm doing something, right? So I've noticed that Oh man, like for example, he went through a phase just like, I don't know maybe three months ago or so of the like, you know, thinking it's funny to try and, you know, move around when the diaper change time is, you know, I'm saying like it's time to change his diaper and he thinks it's hilarious to like, get up and run away and roll over. That is funny. Yeah, you're like trying to pin him down and he's just, you know, so it's like, well, if I gave him like, if I take the phone and I put like something on YouTube that he likes, I mean, he freezes. And so for that minute, I can get him to hold still while he's watching what's on the thing. And then I can do it's crazy how powerful it is. Oh, it's my my baby boy is four months old. And if a TV is on, it doesn't matter what's on. And he's too young to know what, you know, what's on to doesn't matter what's on, he'll be glued. It's a stimulus. It's and it's like it's wild. You know what too attractive? It is. And you know, it's great. So I talked to Arthur Brooks recently. And he said something that I thought was crazy, right? He said that social media in particular, the study in the data is showing that pretty much at any dose is negative. Pretty much at any dose is going to be a net is going to increase loneliness, anxiety, depression, like all the bad stuff. He said the studies are showing that about anything over 30 minutes a day. That's nothing causes negative effects. I don't know anybody that uses social media. Katrina, that's why I think she's that's why I think she's so blessed. And I think she's one of the happiest, most balanced fucking humans. Is she on nothing? He's the same. She did everything to zero. She's never she's never had a Facebook and Instagram, a fucking Twitter and she doesn't do any of that stuff. Because like, what are they doing on there? Other than like, you think that they're connecting with their friends, what they're doing is they're comparing themselves against everybody else. And every time you do that, it just leads to you feeling insufficient and having some kind of, you know, being depressed about like what you what you're not doing or what everybody else is doing. And so it's just, I don't know, dude, it's just a cesspool for me. Dude, in terms of like, you know, stuff I struggle with, you know, with my kids, like a lot of it is boy energy. I have two boys. They're very much like boy boys, right? Physical jumping on shit. The energy is insane. They always want to wrestle. They want to like punch each other and do stuff to like, you know, physically. And so for me, it's like, I'll go to somebody's house that's like very like, you know, meek and reserved and like, you know, we just sit and we talk. And you know, I'm like, this isn't going to work. You know, like, this is not the environment. Like, you need to have things for them to like grab and smash and do things outside. And like, dude, like I struggle all the time going to my in-laws, going to like some of my friends' house that are like very much like, you know, our house is pristine and clean and like, I'm not going to go to your house again. You know, this is not a place for me to bring my kids, because honestly, like you can reprimand them and I've done this and it's it's a battle back and forth. Like I'm going to reprimand them. We've got to be, you know, quiet and still and so I got to pick battles. I got to pick battles where I'm like, OK, this this environment in this situation, we're going to act and behave this way. But, you know, then you'll get, you know, the the side eye and all that with like, you know, some people are like, oh my God, like, yeah. But it's it's their energy. It's where they are like in their development, like they want to go out, explore. They want to like, you know, like not not only to each other, not only that, they're you, bro. Yeah, you know, I'm saying which that's got to be such a and I love hearing that and like because when we invite Justin over, we have to have stuff to do. You know, I mean, sections, you know, like locked off. They're also a part of you that you I would imagine as a father you like and you love of yourself like that they are really physical and that you can see that they're going to be like a very similar version. And you don't want to suppress that as a dad. You don't want to be like change that. We're like, man, I love that my boys want to, you know, hit the ball and wrestle and do things like that. I don't want to like always be telling them no because then either one, they're going to they're going to there's got to be a compromise, too. It can't just be like, well, in this, like laying the hammer down on, you know, making sure that they're like so still and quiet and, you know, following all these like crazy rules, like, like give them something, like give them something fun to do. Then, you know, you come up with something then that's not going to be destructive, you know, if you're going to have all these rules. Yeah, for me, that struggle right now is my kids want to just go in the room and just be in the room all the time. And so I have to tell them well, you have the big tech son, too. Right. And so I do. OK, we're going to be on a break or whatever. Let's turn them all off, come downstairs. And then it's like 30 minutes of them kind of being annoyed downstairs. And so I try to pretend like I don't OK, whatever, we're just going to hang out and you're just going to be annoyed. But then the conversations start, then the games start, then the then we start enjoying ourselves a little bit. But that's the challenge right now, especially because they're both my daughter is almost a teenager. My son is a teenager. And if I let them do whatever, that's all they would do. And I'd never seen. Now, looking back, do you think that some of that has to do with how much freedom you gave them early and now you're in this weird dichotomy of like, OK, I gave them all this freedom for so long and now I kind of recognize where it's leading. I have to also be careful of how much I restrict so I don't seem like I'm this tyrant father all the time. Yeah, there's that definitely. And then there's also because they don't live with me all the time. It's half the time. And the other house that they live in is pretty much unrestricted. So it would be such a contrast, right? Oh, yeah, a massive contrast. It already is a contrast. But it would be such a huge contrast if I went way in the opposite direction. And so that's that's always a big chance. It'd be easier with the baby because we're starting from scratch, right? And they're with us obviously with us all the time. And, you know, and Jessica is, you know, full time mom and she's excellent with that kind of stuff. Yeah. But, you know, back to the social media conversation, when you look at it, and I was thinking about this the other day. Like after after after Arthur Brooks told me that, you know, I'm looking at social media and I'm realizing that everybody is acting like an advertiser on social media, whether they mean to or not. So what I mean by that is do you trust advertisers 100 percent? I'm talking about real marketers, like company marketers, right? So like, you know, Monster Energy Drinks is advertising to you or Coca-Cola or McDonald's or whatever. Do you trust them 100 percent? Of course not. Their job is to totally sell their product, paint it in the best light possible, tell you all the amazing things that'll happen if you use their product or associate it with awesome stuff. Like if you drink our beer, hot chicks will show up at your party or whatever. So it's, do you trust them 100 percent? Of course you don't. Well, everybody on social media is an advertiser. Whether they realize it or not, nobody is being real on social media. Nobody is posting on there, my kid flunked math today and it sucks. Everybody's posting highlights. And so what you're literally looking at is a bunch of advertisers. They might not be official advertiser, but that's what they're doing. No, that's a great way to look at it. You're either advertising yourself, right? Self-promoting, trying to get followers and people to pay attention to you and like your shit or you've accomplished that and you have a lot of followers and then therefore you're selling a product. And even if you don't want followers, it's just you want the people to see you and to see you as this awesome person and get that social clout or whatever. So it's totally fake. You're literally looking at commercial after commercial after commercial. You guys have to watch fake famous, dude. It's on HBO, it's a documentary and they do this experiment where they interview, I think they interviewed like 20 of these like random kids that like wanna be Instagram famous or whatever. And they pick like the three least likely. So they're like, you know, they had like a collegiate level athlete guy and he was like pretty good looking and he's fit and they're like, okay, we can't pick him because he could get famous by on his own just because of his image and what he does. So they picked like three pretty average kids and then decided that they were gonna try and build their fame. And they, I mean, it's a great documentary because they- Were they successful? With one of the three, all of them they were, you gotta watch it because all three of them, there was different experiences. Like there was actually one kid who struggled with it. He's like, I don't want this. He really believed that he should be famous because for whatever reasons or whatever. And he didn't like that they were, doctoring the images and pretending they were doing these things they were doing. And so his integrity got in the way. And so he was just like, I don't wanna do this. Like I wanna be- So we don't have like different formulas for each person or were they like, were they paying for ads and followers and whatnot? So they did use a little bit of that. So he, and they talk about these accounts where you can buy these followers. And by the way, you can buy fake followers that you can also pay for the likes. You can also pay for the comments to make it look like they're actually real followers and everything. And so there's actually, and it's gotten such big business now that there's companies that are doing it to beat the Instagram algorithm. Cause Instagram is also put in- Trying to figure it out. Right, to figure it out, to keep that from happening. So there's always companies ahead of that to make sure it doesn't get caught. So yeah, it was really interesting to see some of the things that were, I didn't even know existed. For example, in LA especially, this is really popular. They have a lot of these things that are like stages to look like you're at some tropical island or to look like you're flying private. It's so stupid. I know, it's big business over there. And you rent it by the half hour in the hour. And this shit, and they talk about it, it was booked for like three months. You know what's so funny about that? You know what's funny? That's crazy. Here's what's funny about all this is that, and I don't know, maybe if I was younger, I would be more that way. That's crazy dude. But I would much rather be extremely successful and you think I'm not. Rather than you think I'm super successful and I'm not. Or even that I am. Like I would like to be the undercover dude that drives the regular car and you have no idea. You're old and wise. You know what I'm saying? Go back to 17-year-old Sal and you want all the attention. Of course not. Yeah, think of insecure 17-year-old Sal who doesn't feel good about his body. Ask him if he wouldn't mind having a million followers and being famous like, you know, of course. Isn't that crazy though? Oh, it is. I literally just talked to my kids about this yesterday. I said, if I had a magic wand that would make you famous, what would you want me to do that? And at first my son, he then I think he's smart. So he was like, well, you could get famous for bad stuff too. So what exactly, he thought it was a trick question. All right. Your son is so you bro. Can't even just answer the fucking question. You could get famous for murdering people. So I don't know. So I'm like, all right, let's just, I said let's just imagine you are famous for something good. Like you're an athlete or you just. So they're both like, well, yeah. And I said, well, how come? He's like, well, because, you know, people know you. They like you. You get all the stuff, whatever. I said, man, you do not want fame. It's fake. Everywhere you go, people are watching you. They know they care about all your business and they will turn on you faster. They will turn on you. That's the thing. And I literally had this conversation with them. I said, it's the last thing you would actually want. In fact, what would be awesome is to be successful and accomplished and nobody know. And then I used the example because I said, how would I explain this to them in a way that makes sense? So I said, do you know who Daft Punk is? And so my son's, and I was like, he's like, yes. I'm like, all right, thank God, you know what these guys are. I said, do you know what they look like? He goes, no. They only have their helmets on. I said, it's the most brilliant thing ever. That in the blue man group. Yes. I said, nobody knows who they are. They only have helmets on. They're super successful and they can walk around and live a regular life except for maybe the most hardcore fans. Nobody knows what they look like. Yeah, it's such a great business model, too, like that blue man group. They were able to then rotate, replicate. Yeah, their same show with other people and like none the wiser. Yes, yeah. What a brilliant way to do it. You should have a watch to fake famous because I don't want to ruin the whole show for everybody. So there's a lot of cool stuff in it to go watch it. But there is like this story arc that happens to the girl who does, right? So there is one of them, within three months time, they build her into over a hundred thousand followers from basically like nothing. She had a few hundred or whatever. And she starts getting products. People send in our products. She actually gets some companies sponsored and you get to see her rise in Instagram fame and she's loving it. I mean, she is eating it up at the beginning. But then all of a sudden it comes gaining season waste. Well, eventually it comes down. After that first initial rush of being quote unquote famous and getting all this free stuff, then this like feeling, and you could see it in the documentary, just this lack of purpose. Yeah, just like, what am I doing? What am I doing? And I don't, and so it's really neat to watch these kids go through it. It's a cool experience. I'm gonna watch this. Speaking of famous, Tom McDonald, this guy seems like he came out of nowhere. Yeah. And is now crushing. There's a number on the charts. Very controversial rapper. Extreme, which I enjoy controversy through. Completely counter cultural in terms of like the culture of today. I love it. I love it. It's, I think that rap has been ready for it for a long time. Yeah. I feel like he opened a huge door now. But isn't that the roots of rap? Rap has always been, and that always it first start out. Counter culture. Buck the system. Yeah, it started out as this party type of thing. But then eventually it got into this like, we're gonna talk and be counterculture. We're gonna say stuff that's gonna piss people off. That's like the roots of it, right? So I feel like he's just going back to the roots a little bit. Kind of, but from a different view, right? A different viewpoint. What I think is that rap has grown so big that there's a lot of people that listen to it that don't align with a lot of the messaging of rappers today. You guys, man, this is a debate you and I get into. We were getting into two years ago on this podcast of you, all rap sucks today. It's all about big booties and pills and guns and like drugs and like this. You're like, but there's some truth to that, right? Like I don't think you guys were completely wrong with that. I was trying to make the case that there are some still rappers out there that are artists and that are actually putting out really thoughtful. Yeah, there's a handful of them still. Yeah, there's still some thought provoking content that's being delivered, but nothing like this. There hasn't been something from, not at this level at least, right? So maybe there are some small-time rappers, but he's- Like J. Cole and Logic. Yeah, I told you, I like guys like that and some of the stuff that they're rapping about. But boy, he is- He's pushing all the buttons. He literally has a chart of the buttons that say don't push and he's going, well, I guess what the main thing that I respect about what he's doing is it's completely independent. Like he decided to, and I haven't really seen this from the rap community quite as much other than like Wu-Tang Clan, right? They decided to not go get signed by some major label and do it all on their own in grassroots, and I love that. He's doing the same thing, but he's just two people. It's just him and his girlfriends. His girlfriend shoots all his videos. He does all the lyrics, all of the beats and everything himself, which, you know, like personally, I think the beats, I would like to see somebody else kind of come in and help him with that. But otherwise, I think it's awesome. I have some critiques. Like I've listened to all his stuff now multiple times. And, you know, it's not something, like you, to this day, you could catch me with my windows down and bumping some Tupac. Like just the hook on it, the chorus on it is fire. It sounds good, everything, right? He's got very thought-provoking lyrics and his bars are sick, but his hooks and his chorus, and it's a little bubblegummy, like, you won't catch me rolling my window down, bumping it, you know. So that's where he misses, right? And maybe that's because, like, your point, like he's not produced, right? He doesn't have somebody who is bad at it. But that also makes him hard to cancel. But he's exactly, he's untouchable. And he can say all these things that I know not, you know, there's a lot of people that will respond to that and be like, oh, wow, yes, like this is interesting. Yeah, I like the fact that he's just pushing all the buttons. I appreciate it when people do that because it takes a lot of guts, you know, because he's a target. But he's blowing up. He's actually, he's been on the news because what was his last one? Was it Fake Woke? Well, canceled his last one. Yeah, but no, the one that got him. Fake Woke is what woke everybody up, right? Nobody was, he's been doing it now for a couple of years and his videos have got, you know, a million or so, but it took a long time for those all to get up to a million. Now, he seems like an interesting person. So from what I gather, he grew up in a normal middle-class house and he's Canadian, but then he had some mental illness. And I'm only getting that from a song. I think he lived in South Central down in LA as far as I heard on some of his, when he was talking about his videos and whatnot. Very interesting. I'm not sure. And he looks like a death metal performer. Like if I saw him, I think like, yeah, and he's like, I do music. I'd be like, oh, death metal? Yeah. Well, I work out to your music. It's like a mix between that, like what a mumble rapper would look like, but he's totally not. Yeah, anyway. Hey, I got a study on, an interesting study on weed that I think will interest you, Adam. We know I like that stuff. Yeah. So the study itself was talking about weed's impact on business or entrepreneurship, I should say. So the title, this was in Science Daily. By the way, great website. If you ever want to just look up studies and be a total nerd about this kind of stuff, sciencedaily.com is where I like to go often times. But the title of this is cannabis use both helps and hurts entrepreneurial creativity. This is the source was Washington State University. We need to study for this. Creativity up. Productivity down. No, so, okay. So I was gonna ask you guys, what do you think that means? So you think it means creativity's up, but productivity goes down? Yeah, I definitely think that's what happens. For sure. Well, so the title is it helps. So they're speaking specifically to creativity. So I agree with you guys on that, but they're saying cannabis helps and hurts entrepreneurial creativity. So it helps creativity, but it also hurts creativity. So do you guys have any ideas what they may mean? Well, I mean, I think that it could, okay, so a little bit of it, I think can make it very creative. A lot of it can make it dumb. So I think that, you know, or think your ideas are much better than what they really are. So I think there's a threshold of creativity. That's happened to us a couple of years ago. If you look at the next day, that was way too creative. Right, there's been times where I'm not gonna lie or I've been smoking and I'm taking notes and I'm like, oh my God, I can't wait to share this with the guys in the morning I reviewed. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna share that. It's like one out of 10 usually, you know, like, oh, that one I'll keep. Top rom and soda. It sounded like a great idea yesterday, but now it's not that. Okay, so here's what they found in the study. Good guesses, and this one caught me off guard, but it makes perfect sense. The study found that cannabis using entrepreneurs generated more creative business ideas, okay? But the feasibility of these ideas was lower. So although they had more creative ideas that were kind of out there, the feasibility of them was more. Well, that's brilliant. I mean, that just, your top ramen analogy right there is basically, it's a perfect example because somebody's stone will be like, that is brilliant. Then you realize how hard that would be to probably create that make that cost a million dollars just to make top ramen flavored Pepsi, you know what I'm saying? It is, it's hilarious. I also think though, although cannabis has been shown to improve certain aspects of creativity, I do think that thinking you're gonna be more creative oftentimes is what does it, right? So I know for us, we actually create an environment for ourselves. There's this little, there's this- It's like a ritual. Yes, there's this routine and ritual that we've done in the past, especially when we used to create a lot of our programs, where we would go stay somewhere at least an hour away because the conversation would start in the car. We'd go to this place and then we would focus on this idea far away from home or whatever and it tended to spark creativity. And then it was just the routine of it, right? I think the intent going into it makes the most difference. If you're, especially to get into group flow, I think like having all of those steps and like having something that you can repeat to be able to get to that point where you feel like it's all kind of coming just naturally, that group flow, it definitely requires a lot of ritual. I have a question for you, Sal. You are the last one to jump on the Caldera bandwagon. I know that I sold Justin on it and he went from ashy to classy and I'm wondering if comments all day long. Well, okay, let's look at it. Look at my face, everybody. Okay, does the skin look great? Yeah, you do look good. It looks pretty good, right? I have been using it. Oh! I had it right here. Oh, show the YouTube people. So I have been using it and one of the reasons why I started shaving my beard, all you YouTube commenters who say, grow your beard back, thank you, is because I've been feeling like my skin is really good, stuff is works. Now, here's the interesting thing about it. I didn't use it before because my skin, so you had the psoriasis stuff. Justin had the alligator skin, the dry skin. I tend towards oily skin. So I'm like, I don't want to put an oil on my skin because it's already. Double oil. It's already, yeah, olive oily, right? Just to, just to, it's nice, right? But you know what it does? It balances it out. Oh, really? Yeah, so what they put in there has got this really good balancing effect on skin. So I put it on mine and I don't get oilier. If anything, I just get more balance. Yeah, you don't look oily. You don't look oily. No, no, no. I'm not shiny. Yeah, no, you're not shiny. I feel like I look shinier than you do with it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you tell? I mean, mine's on. That's like my ritual before we get on YouTube. No, you don't look shiny. I don't. No, no, no. Just handsome. Yeah, we don't wear any makeup. I mean, it's crazy. Closely close to me, too, to wearing makeup. We're on camera. We don't wear makeup. Remember when that was a thing? Like, you could not go on camera. People still do. Yeah, people still do, yeah. I don't want to sell out any of our podcasting friends, but I know people that do that. They have those like halo lights, like red on them. Now, that's super big and popular. I don't care about that. The makeup part, though, I refuse. Like, you're going to powder my face and stuff. That's just weird. Don't say that. Never say that. I'll go on Janie Jones, just raw. You got a book tour probably coming up pretty soon here. So we'll see that. Are they going to do that if I get on a TV show? Yeah, you're going to, like, Good Morning America. They're putting makeup on you. No, they're not. And we're never letting you live it down. Eyeliner, makeup. You got, like, lipstick. Yeah, I'm not on a whole lot of that. Little cheek stuff. I don't know if they can do that. Go lipstick. All that stuff, dude. Come on, bro. They ever seen Ryan Seacrest? They put lipstick on them? Of course, dude. No, they don't. Yes, they do. Why's your voice so high? It just happens. Nobody talks about lipstick. Ah, man. OK, so eyeliner, I might be able to get behind. You should let Justin do your makeup. Huh? Yeah. All people. He's going to look like a clown after I'm done. Justin's the least sensitive. He's going to just mess me up. I'm going to over-apply. Actually, you'll make me look like a rock band or something. Oh, yeah. No, so I can get behind eyeliner, OK? Because one Halloween, I dressed up as a vampire. Remember the one I did with Jessica, where we were, like, sexy vampire? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I put the eyeliner on. And I was like, dang, I'm mysterious. A little bit. I felt like I'm handsome. I felt like David Blaine Prince, you know, like, kind of in between the two. All of us, I could do magic. If I was a single dude, maybe I'd put this eyeliner on, just go out at night and see what happens. Hey, you brought up marijuana. We get asked about, hey, Doug, what is the rules for me? I feel like every time I bring up stock, I get in trouble here. So what do I have to? I have to, one, say I own the stock. Two, I'm not. I don't know the rules. Oh, you don't. Talk to the attorney. Yeah, I don't know. You're the one that makes sure as we don't get sued here. So if I say I own the stock, and then two. You have to disclose that you own it. And also, make sure you tell everybody you're a trainer, not a trader. I'm a trainer, not a trader. I don't know anything about stock. But people continue to still ask. Anyways, you brought up marijuana. Aferia is a company that I bought probably. Yeah, they're crushing right now, aren't they? Yeah, they've been doing well for. I bought them a little over a year ago. And what I liked was the other companies that they were acquiring, because I could see what they were building towards because of cannabis infused drinks. And so I know they got like a seltzer water. Oh my god, you want to know what's just funny? So I pulled them up right now, right? So I bought them yesterday because we were talking. And I had to get out of my GW pharmaceutical position, which that's because they sold to another pharma company. And the deal was 80% cash, 20% stock. So if I didn't sell, I'd end up with 80% cash anyway. So I sold it all. And I put some in Aferia, but you know what's funny? I just clicked on them right now. And there's news behind them. Well, first of all, they're up. Right now, as we're speaking, they're up 14%. And yesterday, they were up 27%. OK, so here's the thing. Ready for this? Here's the article. Cannabis stock jumps or soars as the Reddit crowd that spiked GameStop jumps in. Oh, no. Oh, shit. So the Reddit crowd has now jumped in on this stock, which, jeez, is it just going to blow it? The powers that be are going to monitor that like crazy. Did you guys hear about the kid who committed suicide is in their suit? Oh, so sad. The parents are suing Robin Hood. So sad. Oh, bro. First of all, you look at this kid. He wrote a letter too. You could tell he's like this kind of like nerdy kid. He's 20. Good kid. Baby. Robin Hood sent him a message that said that he owed them $750,000 or something like that. Oh, my god. And it was a mistake. Robin Hood fucked up. He didn't owe them money. In fact, he actually made money. But he was so distraught that he had tried trading and lost all this money. Yeah, because they locked it. Remember when they locked it all after that huge spike? Horrible stuff. They locked everybody that had GameStop. And so the thing just kept plummeting. And so he thought that not only did he lose money, but he actually lost that much money. And his parents would have to pay it. It was something like that. Something out of tons of money. How sad. Oh, that breaks my heart. So what do you think? So this is what this makes me a little nervous about stock right now is that is exactly that. Like, so there's another stock that I bought. COUV, who is a company that I bought like, I don't know. They're not on the, if they're on the. Yeah, they're a pink sheet. But they got frozen today too. And because of abnormal spike over this last week. And so because of this Reddit thing that's happening, is the SEC starting to crack down more. And if they lock you from trading out, like right now, I'm like, I'm concerned because I'm up like, oh God, I want to say that stock is up like 100 and something percent. I'd like to cash some of that out and walk it. I can't. It's frozen. Right. So are we going to start seeing this happen a lot with these stocks that surge all the time just because Reddit gets in there and fucks with it? I don't know. All I know is I'm happy I bought a stock that Reddit's boosting now. So it makes me want to take it out real quick and realize my game. And that's what I'm wondering is like, is that to move? Is like, do you, because GameStop has gone back to where it was, hasn't it? I don't know if it's gone back to where it was. It definitely went down. AMC did, right? Because I know that was the other one that they fucked with. Let me look up GameStop and see where they're at right now. Yeah, tell me where they're at. They were, well, I mean, they're still higher than they were. I mean, they were at $4. They're at 54, but they peaked at one point at $220. So even if you still have it, you're still way up. What about AMC? Tell me what happened with that one. AMC, let me look them up. I don't know. AMC is still, well, they're now, they're back down to five-something. And their previous high way back in 2019 was at 16. So I don't think they ever, they never reached that previous high anyway. Wow. Yeah, so, but yeah, I don't know, man. It's an interesting game right now. And how are they gonna fight it? You can't, like, what are you gonna do, right? Keep freezing the- It's definitely made an impact. So we're starting to see like how this is all kind of turning around. I feel like investors are gonna start putting spies into these groups and like, let me know what the chatter is so I can cash out, I can figure out a way to capitalize on it. Because they single-handedly exploded several stocks. I know, what happens when the big guys that have all the money that are getting pissed right now, right? They start, they start like using- Infiltrating it. Well, yeah, start using that to their advantage. Be like, okay, just exactly what you're saying right now. Let's get some people inside on this. They don't need to. They already play their own games, dude. Yeah. They have their own games of doing that shit. They don't like to lose. They don't like to lose. They will do it. Yeah, I'm with Justin, I do. Yeah, they will do it. Billions of dollars is billions of dollars. Even if it's a hundred bucks, they're just like, no. Yeah, they'll find a way. Now, that's my money. Reddit's off all the servers? What, no, your family that's on it. What are they saying right now? Are they, I mean, is there- I was talking to my buddy this morning who drives me crazy, right? My good friend who likes to speak in code when I ask him direct questions about like, what is he doing with his money? Yeah, you know, are they pulling a bunch out? Are they leveraging with other stuff like bonds and gold and silver and REITs? Like, what are they doing to protect themselves of this potential bubble or- I mean, I think they're just playing the daily game because they're all like hardcore investors, but they all do think that a big correction is on the way. They all pretty much agree that that's on the way. So I should ask them more specifically, like, how much of my position should be cash? That's what I mean. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for some advice like that from somebody that is much smarter than I am in this space to say, listen, what we've seen over the last seven years, the run that we're at, I think everybody's in agreeance. What goes up must come down that we'll see some sort of a correction. The question is, you know, will it be anywhere like the correction in 08 or will it be just a subtle correction? And then also, you know, if you're into this for the long game that you're not looking just to make a buck over a year or two and you're, you plan to stay in no matter what, what are some stocks that you can leverage yourself on so your overall portfolio doesn't get crippled. What are the solid ones? Yeah, well, so it doesn't get crippled, right? And the only thing I know of is thinking gold, silver, bonds, REITs, because if all those, if the stock market crashes, those things should probably go. There are indexes you can invest in that go up when volatility goes up. I'll find out what the names of those are and see what those look like. Yeah, I know that. And see what that, speaking of, you know, being competitive with you guys and all that stuff, it is annoying to me that I can't enjoy magic spoon like you guys do because of the dairy, but those peanut butter magic spoon bars that Jerry made. You saw had like four or five. I had a little piece of one. Holy cow, that is so delicious. Did anybody ask? So like rice crispy treats I made with. All she did was peanut butter, honey, and then the chocolate flavored. So it's like a high protein candy is what it tastes like. It was so good. I mean, it is so good. Like a rice crispy treat, but peanut butter. Oh my God. I know I watched him be delicious. We were right before the podcast, I'm watching him over there like scoop him up in his lap. No, he wasn't, dude. He was, dude, I watched him. Look at that. The whole thing was full just yesterday. Bro, I had like four or five, dude. You know, like what do you want from me? She made him, you know, out of love. And so I'm just trying to acknowledge that. That's that Justin's looking beefy these days. Oh. There it is. And the sound. Yeah. The sound you made. Every time I flex it does that. All right. Our first question is from Bella in New York. Hi, Bella. How can we help you? Hi. Thanks so much for having me. So I recently just started a reverse diet and I'm wanting to know if I'm sort of on the right track and what should my expectations be or what should I anticipate throughout the process? I just feel a little bit lost. Okay. That's a great question. A lot of people ask about reverse dieting because obviously we've talked about on the show helps speed up the metabolism can help if you've come off of a long period of cutting your calories. Sometimes it can help with hormone balancing and all that good stuff. But I do need to ask you a few more questions before I can help you out. Number one, what are you doing for your workouts? So I have the RGB bundle. So I did maps anabolic and now I'm on phase two of maps performance and I've done weightlifting for a bit before I started the programs. Excellent. Okay. So you're obviously following good programs. Are you seeing any strength gains and performance gains? Yeah, actually my strength has gone up in pretty much everything except squats but I think that's just cause I've been doing a lot more mobility. So just bigger range of motion but other than that one lift, everything else has gone up. Now, did you see that Bella when you were... Sorry, did you actually see the strength gains going up while you were in a cut or since you've been reverse dieting? Since I've been reverse dieting. I've seen some small strength gains when I was in a cut but it was like months. Okay. Now, what is your purpose for going on a reverse diet? What's the goal for you? So I was gaining body fat or just weight on a pretty low calorie diet. I was consistently eating about 1,400 calories for a couple of years. So I just kind of want to get out of that funk and I've consistently worked out so I'd kind of like to see the results come to fruition. Okay, so you felt like your metabolism just needed a kick into gear and so that's your goal for reverse dieting? Yeah, yeah. Okay, and now how are you performing it? How many calories are you increasing on a weekly or monthly basis? So I started increasing when I did... When I started a new phase was sort of how I timed it a little bit. And so right now I'm at around 1,800 calories and I've just been increasing by like 100, 150 each phase. Oh, cool. So a phase typically for people who don't know lasts anywhere between three to four weeks. So about every three to four weeks you're going up about 100 to 150 calories and now you're up to 1,800 calories. You've gotten stronger. Have you gained any weight on the scale? I don't exactly know because I don't have a scale but I do feel like my clothes are a little bit tighter which I guess has sort of made me a little nervous because that's not my end goal but I'm trying to trust the processor. Yeah, so what could help with that would be a body fat test because that could tell you if you're gaining muscle, losing body fat or gaining both. I think you're on the right track in terms of increasing the calories. You can go very slow with this so if you feel like increasing your calories is starting to put more body fat on your body then you could always pause, you could even do a slight cut and then go back to the reverse but this can be a very slow process. I've worked with people and where we've reversed them on and off and what I mean by on and off is we'll increase calories oh, they're gaining a little too much body fat we'll bring it down a little bit and then start back up in a few weeks and it can take up to a year or more just to get to that point where you feel like things are roaring and things feel good especially here's the thing that is a clue to that you were at 1400 calories for a long time so it might just take you a little while to get them to go up in the right way. Okay, that's helpful and so how do you know when to stop the reverse or what cues or are there cues? How long have you been on the reverse diet just for information? About late September. I'd like to know can I get an idea of about where you are? I know it's totally rude to ask, wait but I would like to know about what you weigh even though you don't weigh consistently do you have an idea of around your weight? Yeah, I weigh about 135 but I'm only five feet tall. Okay, so I mean, 1800 calories is not bad I mean 1400 is a little low but 1800 is not bad. I know typically we recommend that people don't become slaves this scale and they don't weigh themselves twice a day every day but I do think when you're reverse dieting I do think there's some value to this and it's not like, oh my God, I'm getting fat or I'm gaining a bunch of weight but just to keep an eye on it because when I'm reverse dieting my goal is to not see the scale really shoot up too much. Now, if it goes up a pound or two I'm not worried about that at all. I also don't wanna see my scale go down. If you're reverse dieting and you're adding calories and I'm actually losing weight then I'm gonna keep bumping my calories. So the scale does have some value when you're trying to do something like this or body fat testing. It's just easier to have a scale than it is a body fat test. I mean, if you have access to check your body fat every couple of weeks, then that would have value but the goal really is here is that, okay we would like to increase our calories whether that's 50 to 100 a day or as high as two to 200 a day over a period of time without seeing a huge swing in the scale up or down. And so that's kind of what I'm looking for when I'm reverse dieting is can I continue to add calories into my diet and not see my scale do this huge fluctuation? And by huge fluctuation I mean consistently putting on two pounds or more every single week. If you go one to three pounds and you kind of go up and down that's a good place to be. That means you're kind of hovering around probably what maintenance is for you and you're starting to speed the metabolism up. You can keep that maintenance and also see strength increase that you're really doing well. Yeah, so some signs to look for strength going up, energy improving, libido improving, better sleep, skin, hair all the signs that your health is doing well are great signs of a reverse diet. So you should start, even your appetite going up if a reverse diet's done properly the person's building strength and muscle sometimes it'll actually start to get hungrier and that's actually a great sign that means things are moving in the right direction. Things that tell you that maybe you're going up too fast. Like Adam said, a lot of weight gain not feeling good, digestive issues, you know sleep starts to get worse. Essentially your health starts to kind of go down. That may be that you're because your calories have gone up too fast. Also keep in mind if we're increasing calories, right? That means probably carbs are going up sodium's probably going up maybe even fluid intake is going up. So it's very normal to see your body put on a little bit of size. So if you notice your clothes are fitting a little bit tighter that's also normal during this process. Now excessively if you're going up, you know pant sizes every few weeks we're definitely increasing too fast but it's very normal too for you to be holding a little bit of extra water for you to see a little bit more weight on you. But the key really that I'm looking for when I'm looking at my own body or I'm assessing a client is if I'm putting on muscle it should look good. Like so when you look at yourself even though you might have gone up a little bit weight or clothes fitting tighter you feel good about how you look in comparison to maybe what you look like two months ago you're probably heading on the right track especially if you're seeing markers like Justin alluded to like strength going up in the gym. If strength is going up you feel good about the way you're looking as far as muscle being built on your body you're probably heading in the right track. Okay, great. This was so helpful. Thank you guys so much. No problem, thanks for calling. Yeah, have a nice day. Yeah that reverse diet is such a mind screw for a lot of people, right? Because you're gonna see the scale go up a little bit. I mean you could be building muscle, water could be going up and usually the people that have to do a reverse diet are the ones that are usually chronically trying to lose weight. So now you're telling them to eat more food and so it's challenging. It could be very, very challenging but the rewards are tremendous. I mean I've gotten people's metabolisms to change so much and then when they go to try and get lean it's so much easier because now they're working with so many more calories that their body's burning just on its own. Yeah and then just the length of time in the taking a real gradual approach to it too is another psychological hurdle a lot of clients have like to completely change their focus from trying to lose weight now to just gradually get their metabolism to go back up is pretty challenging. Well this is also too where I see a lot of value in having a coach or another pair of eyes to be instead of yourself, right? Because the mind plays games. It's hard to be objective. It is very hard to be objective when you are somebody who's tried to lean out or lose body fat or lose weight and now you're doing a reverse diet and you see scale going up, you see clothes getting tighter. I mean for me like when I was coaching a client I wanted to see my clients every week check in and I'd make them pose in the same outfit the same time of the day and as I'm adding calories I'm the one who's looking at their body from the week over week and saying, hey, we're doing great. I don't care the scale went up three pounds this week I'm looking at you and I can tell that we're focused on performance metrics. Look at what you're doing. Yeah, I can see we're our bench presses up our squat is up, I can see your shoulders and your legs are building muscle so I think I like right where we're at. Or the other side I see that oh we look kind of flat she could definitely use some more calories oh we actually stayed the same weight or lost a little bit of weight let's bump it up a little bit. So this really helps to have another person to do this with you especially a professional who can kind of look at them and kind of help them through this process because I can see how it's tough when you are reverse dieting for the first time especially when you're somebody who's been in a cut trying to lose the mental game. Our next question is from Sam from California. Hey Sam, how can we help you? Hey guys, awesome to talk to you guys you guys are awesome. Hey, thanks dude. Yeah, so my question is so I'm a collegiate catcher at Cal State Monterey Bay in my senior year right now and I've had two knee surgeries meniscus tears. I tore them about three years to go back to back years. Only about 10% of the meniscus was torn and that just scoped it out. So they just took out the torn part I was only on crutches for about a day for both the surgeries. I was able to come back physically from the surgeries really quick. Mentally it was kind of a different story trusting my bodies, trusting my knees. I've been able to avoid serious injury in the last kind of two years and my knees have been fairly healthy but I think because of the meniscus tears my knees get really inflamed really easily. They swell up, the back of the knee gets really tight the front of the knee gets really tight and I found that stretching my quads is the best way to kind of mitigate any kind of tightness or swelling but I was just curious if there's any ways I could kind of change my, I don't know nutrition plan if there's any more inflammatory things I can throw in or any, you know stretches or exercises that could really help knee tightness and swelling. This is a great question, Sam. So as a catcher you're sitting in that bottom position for long periods of time. How did you tear your meniscus? Was it when you were playing or was it another time? I'm so surprised you knew that. Of course I know. Yeah, I didn't even know you knew what a catcher does. I do know that. Wow. The first one was sliding into second base. I stole a bag surprisingly for a catcher but I stole a bag in my left knee kind of just like a cordy and on the base it kind of got stuck and it kind of compressed. Okay. And then honestly the second one, I don't even know why. Like I don't even know how I did it. It would just started hurting one day and then I tried to play through it and I finally got an MRI. So yeah, the second one I don't really know how. Okay, so when you're in that seated position you're, I mean, this is a sport now so we're talking performance. Although you're active, you're also somewhat relaxed. Like you're not holding the bottom of a squat. If you would, you would die by the time, you know, you get, you know, 10 minutes later you die in that position. There's somewhat relaxing that's going on the bottom and if you have any muscle in your hamstrings or calves there's a little bit of separation happening at the knee joint at that bottom relaxed position. Also you want to consider the knee really only flexes and extends. It doesn't rotate. It doesn't bend laterally. That all comes from your ankles and your hips. So the best advice I can give you to prevent any future tears besides the occasional random thing like you're sliding into second base and then your leg gets caught somewhere would be continue to work on if you're not already a hip ankle and foot mobility because whatever they can't do the ligaments in the knee, the connective tissue in the knee, your meniscus for example is going to have to support, right? So if you're, if your external rotation of your hips or your lateral, you know, stability is off for example in your hips or your ankles those things in your knee are going to have to kind of hold steady. And when you're sitting in that bottom position for a long period of time and you're also active, you're catching balls you're having to move and jump out of that position it's going to put a lot of strain on this. So that would be the number one thing you asked about diet and stuff and I'm going to be quite honest with you what you do with your diet is going to pale in comparison to the mobility work that I'm recommending for your hips and your ankles. How often do you do like hip mobility or ankle mobility drills? Honestly, not too often. I would, you know, say I'm a little bit more of like a meathead in the weight room and mobility is a little bit tougher for me. Listening to you guys podcast I've really tried to wean off of having a bunch of resistance days I found that I was doing like four to five resistance days. And when I started listening to you guys I really only keep it to about two or three now I've lifted heavy weights and then try to focus more on mobility but I definitely could be better in that aspect. You want to live in that 90 90 position and especially, you know getting that internal external rotation out of the hips is going to be crucial. I know from being in a catcher's position then having to react right away but priming that ahead of time, you know so your body responds appropriately is going to be game changer for you just for stability and for performance but also, you know to really help build and fortify around your knees as well as these ankle mobility drills as well toe squats, I know so when you're in that position your heels are pretty much raised the whole time, correct? Yeah, I would say it's I mean, except for if I'm in like for my secondary position like runner on base I kind of try to keep my heels on the ground because honestly when I when I push my knees forward and get more on my toes that's when I feel like I feel I'm putting more pressure on the knees. So recently I've tried to gain kind of more ground contact with my heels and try to, you know feel like I'm gaining more power from my glutes and hamstrings but you know, you always kind of have to be in that firm position and especially for blocking a ball you're always coming, you know on your toes and you know that's such a, you know position you're in. Combaster's a great one for that. Ankle mobility, bro. That's I mean, I'm gonna just jump on the bandwagon of talking about ankle mobility that's where especially with the catcher and what you just said right now is like what will relieve some of that when you're up on your toes is better range of motion in your ankles. So you should live in that combat stretch two, three times a day when you're watching TV every chance you can get is getting down there and working on that. The other thing I think I'd like to see is probably less volume in training, weight training two, three times a week max. The other two days is heavy mobility with like catcher drills. I would get down, I would do my mobility work I would do my hip, I do my hip stuff my ankle stuff and then I would do my catcher drills and be driving that home and then only strength training maybe two, three times max a week and then actually nutrition there are some things that Sal's right, it will pale in comparison to what you will do mobility but I would play with some things like maybe on days when I'm not playing a game and stuff like that I might run like a lower carb and then load up when I'm getting ready for a game so I have more energy and I'm like less worried about I don't need to be running at 100% in my training so I can do like a little bit lower carbohydrate intake and me managing my calories if you're eating a surplus of calories all the time and a lot of carbohydrates that could be causing more inflammation going on and then also tools like I don't know if you mess with things like the infrared doing things like that I don't know if you mess with cryotherapy and icing and doing so with that even though I know icing isn't ideal for the average person in recovery it is for somebody who's getting back to the next day and having to play a game Well something Sal actually helped to suggest for one of my clients who had like chronic inflammation and also swelling issues around the knee was bromelain I believe and it was just a natural supplement that actually really worked well for my client when she'd have those days where it would just like blow up on her Yeah and the key with bromelain is to take it on an empty stomach and you could take it a couple of times a day but again if you are constantly pushing back the inflammation and not addressing what's causing the inflammation you're not gonna help yourself maybe in the short term but not in the long term do you have MAPS Prime Pro Sam? No I don't Okay so we're gonna give that to you and I want and you need to do hip ankle and foot mobility regularly in fact I would even even if every single day multiple times a day Yes and I wouldn't do tons believe it or not I would not do tons and tons of lower body strengthening exercises like squats and lunges it's okay to do those once a week or so but don't go crazy with them until you get this under control because here's what happens the more muscle you build especially your hamstrings and calves the more you're gonna get that knee separating effect from sitting at the bottom of a squat so if you imagine when your knee is really really bent right and there's a lot of muscle in your calf and hamstrings as you're pressing on those it almost wants to separate the knee a little bit It's pulling a little bit more Right so get the mobility under control before you go into trying to build up your legs otherwise you can cause yourself more problems and the days that you do decide to strength train this is where somebody I would foam roll and stretch and do mobility afterwards so after let's say you do squat lunges you do some of these traditional leg exercises don't just walk out the gym after you get this massive pump on them then you should spend the time right then doing some foam rolling then doing some mobility work to stretch it back out again that'll help out Yeah that is awesome I've really never you know truly dove into it focused on the ankle mobility I know you guys talking about that so much so that's definitely something I'm going to be focusing on because you know 2022 season that's our next season because we got canceled because of COVID and our 2021 season got canceled so I got a little bit of time so hopefully some time to make some good changes Awesome, awesome Sam I'll select you man Yeah thank you and you know just really quick you guys have been you know awesome I listen to you guys every morning such a great inspiration actually kind of inspired me to create my own channel too it's called The Good Dogs, DAWGZ just trying to promote some positivity so if you guys get a chance check it out I don't know if it's allowed to promote on here but you guys have just inspired me You're the first one I appreciate you trying but we'll cut it out Thanks for talking to me I know I assumed you guys No we wouldn't he's just fucking with you He's fucking with you Sam We wouldn't cut it out right there Yeah I wish I could see you guys his beautiful faces you guys have some sense you guys He's really trying Yeah we know You're looking out Sam Good talking to you brother Thanks guys you too thanks so much Yeah those compressive forces at the bottom especially when you're relaxed although he's mostly active right because he's playing that can cause problems when you got some stability issues in your hips and ankles That is one of the toughest positions in sports to be able to sit in that continually for nine innings for you know extended innings like it's just brutal on the joints and you talk about people that really I mean he's a person who hip mobility and ankle mobility will do wonders for him Oh that's all performance for him it's gonna improve his performance tremendously and I'm excited that he says he hasn't focused on that at all because that will make a big difference Tremendous I mean it helps you know majority of our clients most people need work in that area but you have somebody who is you know working at the elite level down in that position ankle and hip mobility Totally I tell you if you want to see if you want to look at high level athletes with tremendous especially hip mobility and even ankle mobility and when I say mobility I mean of course range of motion but strength and control and these ranges of motion look at catchers and look at goalies for hockey it's mind-blowing what they can do with their hips and their ankles especially with the catchers with the ankles and you got to look at them because they're the ones that are able to do it long into their career if you don't have those things and then you play high school college you get tons of problems and it usually hits you in the knees Our next caller is Jasmine from Michigan Hey Jasmine, how can we help you? Hi Sal So I recently lost 130 pounds Wow, congratulations Awesome So I'm trying to get back into I guess a normal lifestyle without gaining back a lot of the body fat that I lost and I know there's a lot of science behind like everybody gains back the weight so I was wondering what your piggins are on that and what I can do to get back to maintenance sort of eating style and training Excellent This pairs really well with the question we just answered two people ago Yeah, so first off congratulations that is tremendous that's such a hard thing to do So the fact that you actually did it I mean that's a testament to you I need to ask you a few more questions before I can answer this properly I need to find out how did you lose the weight? Was this did you get gastric bypass procedure? Did you have did you do it through exercise and diet? Like what were the things you did to get there? It was all diet and exercise I started calorie counting and then just actually being active Okay, cool All right, so so I'm going to say something that might sound a little bit like I'm not answering your question but just bear with me, okay? The most important thing you can focus on to prevent yourself from gaining weight has nothing to do with the physiological things that are going to happen to your body as you watch your calories and exercise and stuff like that those are all the mechanistic things that you can work on and I have no doubt in my mind that you'll be able to do them because you've actually done them already and lost a lot of weight The thing I'm going to recommend that you focus on the most is working on the behavioral aspect of it the emotional aspect essentially the mental part of all of this so I highly recommend if you haven't already investing in a therapist or somebody who specializes in working with the behavioral aspects of not just the weight gain that happened prior to your weight loss but now what happens now that you've lost the weight in my experience working with people who've lost a lot of weight they've usually used food as a way to self-medicate so now what they've done is they've removed that way of self-medicating and through sheer discipline they're able to lose the weight but at some point all those reasons why maybe you had that weight on you in the first place start to creep back in and so you can have the best plan the best workout the best everything in terms of what to do but if you don't address that it's gonna be very very very challenging if not impossible does that resonate with you yes it does okay excellent alright now let's talk about the mechanisms that you're going to work on however many calories you're consuming right now now that you've lost the weight what's your maintenance at that's what I can't figure out necessarily I go between eating like around 1600 a day just because I'm not hungry to like around 2800 a day so it just varies do you have any idea of what that would average out to per week I haven't done the calculations but probably around like 2200 or so okay it's actually not bad no that's not bad it's not bad at all considering you've dropped down 130 pounds now let me ask you another question what does your exercise look like daily are you doing tons and tons of activity every day so I have a rebound or trampoline and when I'm bored I just kind of jog on it for a couple hours a day honestly okay so I'm not sure if that cardio is influencing what I'm doing at all what about training are you are you following any of the maps programs right now I just finished anabolic okay excellent what did you see with anabolic um my muscles definitely got a lot stronger I like managed to do I guess body recomp in the last year so it definitely just solidified everything I had been doing very cool very very cool okay so you're doing two hours of cardio a day in order to be able to consume 2200 calories a day nothing necessarily wrong with that in terms of sustainability in my experience it's going to be very difficult to maintain that five years ten years fifteen years and beyond because it's a lot of structured dedicated activity I would recommend trying to make your daily life more active it's a much more sustainable way of doing things so maybe getting a step counter seeing if you can increase your steps uh... just throughout the day in your daily routines uh... and then try to replace the rebounding with something like that uh... adam asked you the question about work resistance training stay on that nothing positively affects the metabolism like building strength and building muscle uh... so i would stay on that get your body strong get your body to want to build muscle it'll make it so that you don't need to worry about burning so many calories manually on a daily basis and even though i can't i you know i'm not i'm not working with you and i haven't seen your how you train inside the gym uh... my suggestion would be uh... to make sure that you are focused on strength over burning right so a lot of times when i have a client that has a big weight loss goal it's all about moving and burning calories a lot of the messaging that you see in social media and even on tv around weight loss is all about burning burning burning and so a lot of times when my clients would come to the gym that's how they approach their exercise there are their sets their reps their weight when they're training is they're trying to keep moving in weight take some rest periods to resettle down and actually your goal should be can i you know can i add five pounds to my bench press can i add ten pounds to my squat and really kind of reframe your thought process of going into the gym and exercising it's more about building strength building muscle that's what's gonna help speed the metabolism up that's what's gonna allow you to be able to increase your calorie intake without putting on body fat and so i'm not sure what it looks like right now for you but i know in my experience with clients a lot of times when they're trying to lose weight it's all about moving and burning and i gotta re i gotta reframe what that should look like for them and it's like hey when we go to the gym i'm not concerned about you you know moving around like crazy and in short rest periods you know rest rest for a solid two minutes between these sets and let's try and increase that strength and let's increase the weight that you're moving okay jasmine do you mind if i ask you a couple personal questions yeah um so when before you got on this journey and you were 130 pounds heavier than you are now what were the what was the food doing for you or what were you eating the food for in other words was it uh did you find yourself eating because you were bored or sad or anxious what was that food helping you with it was probably a combination of all three honestly okay and what have you replaced the food with exercising okay so what you've done is you've okay so you've medicated with food before and now you're using exercise to medicate does that sound uh am i saying that accurately i would say so okay now this is actually a a strategy that i would use with clients so when they would have uh like you did with food where it was a way to self-medicate either you know sadness depression anxiety whatever and i would actually have them replace it with exercise because it's an easy transition however you can't stay there okay right because using exercise in that way is also developing a unhealthy or bad relationship with exercise and it's also totally not sustainable does that make sense to you yeah okay excellent so this is why i really again i want to stress this work with somebody who is uh experienced and an expert in this field and i'm telling you the people that i've worked with and i worked with quite a bit of quite a few people who've lost over 100 pounds the ones who were successful were the ones that did exactly what i'm talking about the ones who didn't do what i'm talking about i'm not a single one of them was successful long term yeah i yeah i think you're coming in with the right attitude of trying to find your maintenance and uh you know a lot of times the biggest struggle with somebody who's lost a lot of weight that i'm helping coach is that temptation of wanting to burn all the calories and make sure their activity levels are really high and they're doing high intensity things so you know the advice i can only just echo trying to sort of refocus on just building your body up and getting stronger and focusing on the metrics so even something like a powerlifting program something like that you know might be something to to look into but uh you know once you dial all that in and you know you're utilizing food to just you know fuel the energy going into the workouts that's a healthy place to be and jasmine i want you to know that i want to commend you too you're kicking ass right now the fact that you've you've dropped that down the fact that you're actually eating 1800 to 2000 plus calories the fact that you're aware that most people put the weight back on the fact that you're aware that you are using food to medicate you're already ahead of a lot of people and in the right direction so you're doing a really good job very very good job and in care take care of yourself like someone you care about always think of that to yourself remember that that you are somebody that you care about and you want to treat yourself uh as such that'll always guide you in the right direction okay excellent thanks for calling in jasmine now thank you so much no problem that's uh you know you're actually right adam uh the vast majority of people that were in her situation don't even get close to where she's at not even aware not even aware and she's she's uh i would say more than halfway there but again i can't stress when you finally get there you're not done there's another phase you need to move to that can be just as challenging as the previous phase and and it's necessary in order to maintain what you've already accomplished otherwise if exercise becomes your new drug uh and we all know that very well what that turns into um either a it can become bad in and of itself or b you eventually get sick of that drug and you drop it very quickly and go back to your previous drug which was you know food nobody ever thinks that you can you can abuse exercise and fitness right it's a good thing right right right it's healthy i'm exercising but you absolutely can especially if you don't handle the root cause if you got in that situation because and i love that you went that direction with her because that's what's common i think with most people is that's your outlet your outlet is i'm gonna go in the gym and exercise and you know a lot of times it gets people to their goal but long term eventually that stuff surfaces and then you that's where the that's where the binge and the fall off the wagon and then the all the weight comes back on because you never dealt with what was really causing the weight gain in the first place yeah i'd say the first in my career uh i worked with three initially i worked with three people who lost a lot of weight and they later on gained it back and and failed and it was so for me it was such an eye-opening thing and i remember thinking like what can i possibly do and so i had this completely different strategy moving on in my career where when somebody would come to me and would want to lose 100 pounds or 80 pounds or more um what part of the structure was that they work with a therapist and that i work with your therapist when we did that the success rate was much higher because then it was we're really working on the root and i'm not a you know i was i'm a trainer right and i can work with food relationships i can work with that kind of stuff but i wanted an expert uh who was a therapist or counselor who could work with that person on the side part of it and it was so much more effective our next caller is joseph from california hey joseph how can we help you hey guys how you doing um i just had a quick question you know us tall guys out here don't get a lot of love or you don't get to hear much about how to progress and lifts and really move past those plateaus so what i'm wondering i'm six four i've been working out for about 10 years i followed uh mike matthews bigger bigger leaner stronger for i don't know let's say about three or four years really taught me about that strength phase but uh i just i need some tips on how to increase my squad i've been really stuck at you know always get a little bit past that 225 mark but then coming back down and um you know i a reference i heard you guys make was in regards to you know you're running with a bum leg and when you put that intensity or add that weight you're just running faster with that bum leg so i guess my question is you know how and what are some tips to progress for us taller guys six three uh on our squats well i love questions like this this i'm with you too there is no love for us guys that are over six three and above man yeah you guys have such a hard life as you guys and i try and remind i'm trying to remind salin just all the time that the way that they measure strength is weight over distance so guys like you and i even though we're only moving 225 we're like twice as strong as salin just in our squatting double the weight so just this is great so just remember that joe you and i are much stronger than these guys that are doing you know three four hundred thousand more compact power range of motion range of motion that's exactly right so joseph uh what are you okay so what is you said you were doing bigger leaner stronger before what are you doing now what are your workouts look like now yeah so about in 2017 2018 i i found you guys through mike matthews he recommended this podcast and i just fell in love i did uh first program i bought was anabolic absolutely loved it bought aesthetic absolutely loved it um i did performance after that absolutely loved it i ran anabolic probably about two times um i have performance and strong i started off on strong but you know i was getting a little i felt overtraining i was sleeping bad i was just really just after my workouts i felt more tired than energized so uh i kind of was in the strength phase for the last about say six weeks so then i moved back into i just jumped right back into aesthetic phase two to just go into more of the the pump phase or whatnot just to give my body a break from that strength okay and how are your you know you're focused on the squat primarily is that what you really want to improve at 100 percent you know i i want to get to that 315 but i want to do it right i don't want to just keep hobbling on this leg and then injuring myself have to go back to you know 135 to 185 to 125 and so forth got it now how did your did your squat strength go up uh going through maps anabolic and aesthetic and performance 100 percent i could say my overall body and strength i had some major transformations you know like i said i was doing beer leaner stronger which is primarily focused on just strength training the whole time a 46 rep range but i just noticed huge results by doing the full body three to four days a week and just giving myself that rest and recovery but also the programming was just awesome how it phased into each phase you know from a strength phase to a high high you know a high building phase and then yeah how did you do with the consistency of those frequency builders the trigger sessions for instance an anabolic in the mobility sessions in performance you know for anabolic i loved the trigger sessions i actually do them even with aesthetic and performance how much i love those uh do you know the air squats and band exercises i've been really focusing on my chin ups and pull-ups and notice a lot of gains in my arms but for performance the mobility trigger sessions they were you know a lot of new movements to memorize and and you kind of go back into old habits when you don't have too much time and and really need to probably focus more on those mobility sessions well the way the way you would get stronger if you're tall is the same way somebody who's short would get stronger and what i mean by that is it really boils down to the individual okay so number one i would look at mobility issues and see if those are causing any problems typically tall guys they they may lean forward a lot when they do a squat they might need greater ankle mobility in order to perform a proper squat typically so i would look at things like you know work on ankle mobility quite a bit so that's a very common one yeah and then here's the other thing okay if your goal is to build more strength and you with your level of experience okay now you can start to incorporate some more advanced techniques and i don't mean advanced in terms of more intensity and more volume i mean advanced in terms of like variable resistance yeah so i would use uh resistance bands on my barbell when i'm doing a squat either assisting me or adding resistance so that the bottom of the squat is lighter and the top of the squat is heavier you can also use chains uh in your squats you can also start to do where you pause your reps so if your sticking point is you know right at 90 degrees um i would hold a squat there for three seconds and then come up at the top you can also experiment with a type of a squat called bottom position squats where you get under a bar that's already at the bottom of a squat and then bring it up rather than starting at the top lowering and coming back up these techniques are really really good at getting strength things go up so start looking in the in that direction aside from the mobility well i'm i'm gonna go in a couple different directions one uh so i i don't know how much you've followed my journey joseph like as far as uh you know strength building and where i was with competing to where i when i focused on mobility so where i'm currently at right now like uh my when i was competing uh i was squatting over 400 pounds um obviously i had a great physique on stage but i had i had really poor mobility and that was a big focus so i transitioned out of competing into becoming this like really trying to become this really mobile guy like at six three but i wanted to be able to sit like astagrass squat comfortably not just get there but be down in that position comfortably and so i kind of let go of like okay i'm obviously probably not gonna be squatting 400 pounds let's get back to see how deep i can get did lots of mobility work and to where i'm at currently today is i'm probably squatting somewhere around 350 ish is probably kind of my peak where i'm at right now but it's astagrass and my legs are bigger than they've they've ever been at where i'm at right now so even though i was squatting more weight before when i was competing i what i didn't have nowhere near the depth in my squat and so that's another thing too is to be clear on like what you really want do you want to squat more weight so you can build your quads and your legs more or do you want to squat more weight just so you can squat more weight so i i had to ask myself that and like let go of like okay so i'm squatting less weight now but i'm moving the weight at a greater range of motion which is resulting in bigger more defined legs than i had before so that's one the other thing i'll tell you that i benefited from personally a lot was actually our power lift program so especially if you're yeah especially if you're very focused on on like building your squad up the way that program is written it is written to to get your strength up in the big lifts so it's programmed very very well it's very different to how i've ever trained my body i've always trained like a bodybuilder or like an athlete i'd never trained like a power lifter to try and get strong in my lifts that was my first time ever really doing that and i saw a big strength gains and for obviously guys like us who have been lifting for a long time you know seeing 10 or 20 pounds go on the bar is a big deal and i was seeing that in in my big lifts from that program so that would be my other suggestion yeah do you have mass power lift joseph i do i do i have a ton of your programs i have prime prime pro it's it's really just figuring out those mechanics and making sure i'm doing the right mechanics before i add that intensity or add those different variations and i think focusing more on the 90 90 i've been doing that for last year and a half i've felt a lot better i used to get a an impingement and you know my lower back on my left side and ever since i started doing 90 90 because i'm sitting at a desk all day um it's it's really helped me out and then combat stretch and and just been incorporating those on a very frequent basis when sitting down wrestling with the kids or what not hell yeah joseph are you are you in the private forum too or no no i'm not okay all right well we're going to set you up with that i'm gonna have i'm gonna have dug give you access to the forum and then what i want you to do is i'll actually want you to video yourself squatting because right now we're all speculating on ways that we can kind of help you out in the area i might be able to see the way you're squatting right now and point out something more specific and that a lot of people that's how they use the forum so there's besides the three of us being in there to kind of help and coach people along we've also got a ton of other coaches and professionals in there and everybody loves to share like a video of them and then you'll get critiques from everybody including ourselves so we want to and since you own almost everything let us hook you up with that yeah and then one last thing i can't stress this enough especially with people who are tall there's a lot of value in split stance exercises okay Bulgarian split stance squats huge lunges either back step or front step unilateral exercises step ups or single leg toe touches or deadlifts tremendous value for everybody especially for tall people tall people seem to get so much value from doing those split stance exercises in my experience i've seen some of my taller clients completely addresses the any instability i mean there's no way around it and so i think that's great advice to really kind of dive into that as well and then see how that applies you know back to your back loaded squats exactly cool well thank you so much yeah i ever since i started listening to you guys i did the split stance um Bulgarian squats i built two uh step up boxes been doing those and then performance really got me into more of those single leg movements so i did notice some gains there but really just want to focus on the big four and squats it's always been a Achilles heel of mine so i do appreciate everything and i do have chains so i can start doing those and i do really appreciate it thank you yeah no problem man kicking ass thank you all right man he's he's he's dialed in yeah he's got all the program i mean he's doing i think that's just a case of like you wanting more sooner yeah i mean he's obviously if he's ran through most of mike's stuff he's now he's got damn near every one of our programs gone through seen phenomenal results already like you know i think that's something too and i know you guys we all probably wrestle with this is that you know after you've been lifting for a really long time uh those those gains are yeah few and far between a little harder yeah i mean i mean a five pound increase today is like a big is a big deal you know i'm saying or an inch more of mobility i mean so you know after you've got those beginner gains and you've seen great results from see you know going through a few new programs you've never followed it's tough to see the like major gains you know years down the road and you and you know you are right it's one of the the only places in life we're being tall might be a disadvantage right when you're doing barbell squats right so look mine pump is recorded on video as well as audio so you can come check us out on youtube mine pump podcast we also have a lot of free guides and free written information so we have guides on how to get a better squat how to build your legs or your arms or your midsection how to burn more body fat go check them all out go to mind pump free dot com they're all free they cost nothing and then again and then also you can find us all on social media instagram is our favorite place to be so you find justin at mine pump justin me at mine pump sal and adam at mine pump adam you can look at you can speculate on what's going to happen in the future and how it's going to suck no no no don't do that just literally take the energy it's just energy and and just shift it about three feet over here and start looking at how you can make this work for you it's just