 So I have a question. I'm in a basic science department even though I am not a basic scientist and one of the challenges that I see is as much as our scientist colleagues want to sort of think about these ethical issues and the good, you said something earlier that really struck me which is you follow the science where it takes you and you don't always know where that's going to be. And I worry a little bit that in order for our scientists to really take advantage of that, they don't always get the training and the support to think about the ethics. So I wonder what thoughts you have on that because I feel like you're, you've really come out strong about the ethics on this from the very beginning and that is unusual frequently when we have these new technologies. I think you're right. My experience in science is that I think many scientists and frankly I would put myself in the same category until very recently was sort of having the opinion that I'm not a bioethicist, I'm not professionally trained in that area that somebody else's responsibility, I'm just doing my next experiment, I'm trying to publish my paper, I'm trying to finish my thesis, you know, right, I'm trying to get a job, I'm trying to get tenure and and I think many scientists, you know, feel that way and I sympathize because I under I understand that that mentality completely. I do think that you're right that we actually don't do a good job at least in in our graduate program, it's true and in the programs that I came through as a trainee in exposing students to, you know, the realities of thinking about their work in the context of how it might be used, how it might impact other people, other fields, fields that they don't, that they aren't expert in and it's a big challenge, I'm not sure how we how we tackle that. I'd love to hear, I don't know if you have, you know, thoughts about that or ways that you envision, you know, educating students that, you know, because we, you know, I think we all, you know, we all like I'm teaching right now an ethic, I'm participating in an ethics course at Berkeley, you know, for our graduate students, but it's really not about this kind of thing, right, it's really just about, you know, who should be a co-author on a paper and you know, things like that, right, it's that kind of thing, which is, I mean, I'm not trying to minimize that, it's important, but it's a different level from what we're talking about here. Yeah, well, I'm sure you have the same experience when you teach, but sometimes it does feel a little bit like being Sisyphus and always pushing it up the mountain, but the challenge is to try to find ways to do that, I think, that don't make it seem like folks who work in bioethics are just like, no, you may not do this, right. I once had someone at our genetics department retreat say to me, do you like genetics because you're always talking about the bad parts of it. And I was like, no, I love genetics, it's the best part. So I'm sorry that sometimes bioethics has come across as being like the goalkeepers or the people who are supposed to stop something. And I want to find a way that we can work better together as a team to move science forward in an ethical way.