 We want to go ahead, Carly then. Yeah, it looks like we've had some more people join so we can go ahead and start. Right. Well, thank you everyone for joining us this evening. As many of you know we're here to discuss the proposed district redwood park tank project tonight. The meeting will consist of a short presentation to go through the project components, the project purpose, and then some common questions and concerns that we've received. I'll go ahead and start out by introducing who we have today on the call with us for district staff, we have Rick Rogers our district manager. And then we also have Jennifer Hado and Amanda Antonelli from Rencon consultants who completed the initial study mitigated negative declaration for this project. And then finally myself Carly Glanchard, the environmental planner for the district. I would like to ask as well that we hold all of the public questions until the end of the presentation. If any of the slides are relevant to your question we're more than happy to go back to that as well. And then why we're on this initial slide. I'd like to point out this is a rendering of the proposed tank, the pump house and the fence that would contain the site. All of this information that's going to be covered in tonight's presentation, along with these photos and any of the other maps are included in the initial study mitigated negative declaration and the fact answers and questions document the district completed and that's all on the website. So we'll go ahead and start out with talking about the operational aspects of the zones served by the current tanks and then the proposed tank. I'll let Rick and James take this portion of the presentation. Thank you, Carly. My name is Rick Rogers. I'm the district manager for the San Lorenzo Valley Water District. We thought we'd start with just a short overview of the operations for the area. The Redwood Park tank zone feeds approximately 258 water service connections, either directly from the reservoir or through pass through from water through this reservoir. We pumped water from highway nine on a lower zone in the Brookdale area actually is where the main storage is and we pumped this water along there's a concrete pump station right there along highway nine and scenic drive. And we pumped water up to right now it's the two existing Redwood tanks. The water is then stored in those two Redwood tanks and feeds the lower portion of the zone. And then there's a pump located at that tank that pumps water all the way up to the top of I guess it's Country Club Drive to the spring tank and then gravity back and feeds the upper area. And it's about again a total of 258 connections. The water is kept in the general neighborhood of a scenic drive Park Drive Country Club in that direct neighborhood. It's 100% residential. There is no commercial. And it also provides domestic and fire flow for that zone. With that we can go back to Carly. Great, we can go to the next slide. So the purpose of the Redwood Park tank project is to replace the two undersized 20,000 gallon Redwood tanks that have reached life expectancy and are leaking. The total storage for that zone currently is the 40,000 gallons, which is undersized for the county of Santa Cruz and the Ben Loman fire districts fire flow requirements. The next component of the project would be to replace the leaking and undersized 400 linear feet of pipeline currently serving homes on Country Club Drive. Right now, the pipeline there is two inches and the county and the Ben Loman fire district requires a minimum of six inch pipeline. The district will talk about this little later in the presentation as well with the district proposing to replace the two inch pipeline with eight inch pipeline exceeding the fire flow requirements for the county and Ben Loman fire. We can go in the next slide. Right, so the project would consist of the following. It would be an 125,000 gallon bolted steel water storage tank, which is about 30 feet in diameter and 20 feet in height. Two water pumps housed in an 80 square foot pump station made from concrete and fire resistant roofing. A base rock surface or paved driveway into the tank site, and then 400 the 400 linear feet of pipeline replaced with the eight inch ductile steel water pipeline connecting the project site to the original swim tank site on Country Club Drive. And finally, a stand by backup generator and propane tank for emergency power. Okay, the proposed project is to be located on an approximately 6500 square foot parcel located northwest of the intersection of Country Club Drive and Dundee Avenue and Ben Loman California. This APN is also available on the district's website in the initial study mitigated negative declaration document. I don't know if anyone needs to look into that. Here we have a photo taken below the text from Country Club Drive outside the southwest corner of the proposed water tank site facing northwest. Next. So now we'll move on to send the common questions and concerns we received during the public review period and from the neighborhood. Again, we have another rendering inside the fence of the proposed tank and the pump house. And go to the next slide. So why is the original tank site of the water storage tanks not being used for the new tank, and why is the new tank site being chosen. The proposed project was chosen by the district for the following reasons. Location, the site is located near existing tie in infrastructure and is large enough to accommodate the needed 125,000 gallon water tank. Cost efficiency. The site offers a much more cost efficient solution compared to alternative sites in the area, while meeting standard fire flow tank size requirements. The tank site is also located at the correct elevation situated the correct elevation for water delivery throughout the neighborhood. It's a relatively flat slope without grading the slope of the site is relatively flat and the geotechnical investigation determined it would be feasible to construct the proposed project without grading. And finally, less environmentally impactful fewer trees would be need to be removed to accommodate infrastructure. So as compared to other potential sites in the area, including the original tank site, the proposed site would require fewer trees to be removed to accommodate the proposed infrastructure. Right now there's a proposed of removal of five trees, one small suppressed coastal redwood and four tan bark oak trees. Next slide please. So what hours will construction occur and will the project begin, or when will the project begin and how long will it take to complete construction would occur during the working hours of 8am to 5pm Monday through Friday excluding holidays. Construction is estimated to commence in spring 2021 and lasts for 12 months. Next slide. How will residents access their home will roads be closed or blocked by parked construction or associated vehicles. No roadblocks are proposed during the construction of the water tank. Temporary temporary traffic delays are proposed during pipeline constructions which would take approximately two weeks to complete road access would still be passable for the entire two week duration of construction. If residents have a special request for time access, for example a scheduled time they need to leave or return to their home schedule construction of their home or etc. They can contact the district to accommodate these needs. The district standard contractor specifications include provisions requiring the roadway not to be blocked by park construction personnel vehicles. Next slide. How does the district accommodate emergency postal garbage and recycling services during construction service providers including emergency personnel postal service garbage and recycling would be contact before roadway construction begins. The district will ensure scheduled services around daily roadway opening and established communication protocols for accommodating unscheduled access needs. In an emergency access or evacuation scenario steel plates placed along active trenches would quickly be used to restore vehicle access in the roadway. Next. The contractors will be responsible for basic traffic control measures to ensure the safety of vehicle traffic and material delivery, including providing flag persons at affected roadway segments and or intersections and traffic control signage. Next slide. How much noise will the new pump stage and contribute to the neighborhood. Will I be able to hear the pumps for my home. The water pumps would be operational for up to three hours per day. The pumps would not operate continuously during nighttime or daytime hours. Existing water pump stations at other locations. Pump stations with one or two water pumps generate noise levels between approximately 55 dba at a distance of five feet. At the tank site property line noise levels associated with the operation of the new pump station were conservatively modeled to be approximately 43 dba. It is also important to note dba was modeled without the consideration of the concrete pump house structure, which would further decrease noise. These model dba levels would not exceed the county's threshold of 75 dba. On this slide we have a decibel level comparison chart put together by Yale University. As you can see the 55 dba is comparable to a household refrigerator and from the property line the dba is reduced to 43, which is close to a suburban area at night. And again, please note that these pumps would run less than three hours a day and would be housed inside a concrete pump house structure. Next slide. Where will project staging occur? Will staging affect traffic in the neighborhood? Construction staging of smaller equipment and materials would occur primarily within the boundaries of the project site. Larger equipment as in the water tank materials may be temporarily staged at the large flat previously graded turnout off State Route 9 or Highway 9 across Highlands County Park. Construction staging would not involve ground disturbance. In addition, temporarily stage equipment would not occupy the entire turnout area. No lane closures of Highway 9 would be required. Staging would not affect parking or traffic within the neighborhood. Next slide. Why is the tank proposed to be 125,000 gallons? The Ben-Loman Fire District and the County of Santa Cruz assessed fire flow needs for the neighborhood and determined 125,000 gallon water tank was needed. The standard tank size is considered to be the standard tank size for fire flow requirements in the county. The county fire flow requirements are based on fire occurring at a single resonance and do not account for wildland fires. However, the improvement of tank capacity storage to the standard 125,000 gallons from 40,000 gallons currently at the original tank site for the neighborhood would significantly improve fire protection to all homes. The standard tank size allows for more water security and decreases the chance the tank emptying during emergency events. The automatic pump to fill the tank is also said to begin pumping when the water level drops to a certain height. This adds additional water security and will help maintain water levels in case of an emergency. And go to the next slide. So that includes our short presentation. Thank you so much for coming out to the public for questions, comments and concerns. We will be giving each member about three minutes to ask their question or give us their concerns. We'll ask that you use the raise hand function in the meeting in the zoom meeting platform. And from there we'll call on your name and then unmute you and we'll have one of our staff answer the question. So if I can jump in here real quick, Carly, and to if you direct the questions to district staff, we'd appreciate if we didn't have cross talk with the participants and direct all of your questions to staff. Thank you. Great. So it looks like the first that I see in my chat is Peter Parker. So we can go ahead and unmute Peter. Can you hear us Peter. We can hear you go ahead. Peter, can you hear us. We're not hearing Peter. Do we want to go to our next. Sure, we come back to Peter. Let's go ahead and I see Julie Carlson is the next on my list. It's my neighbor Chuck has a question we're watching together. Question was I noticed from the diagram that Dundee Avenue is alongside the tank area and you're showing parking right off Dundee. Or is that just in your line like where are you planning on putting the parking for your site. I completed the completed tank project for like parking for district staff servicing the tank or pump station will be on the property. Yes, there's a line of Dundee Avenue. I believe so. Dundee Avenue does not have access to your property then it's completely cut off as proposed to be fenced off. Yes. Okay. And I noticed on the rendition of the tank, they showed a nice redwood fence around the thing. Is there a redwood fence going up or is it a chain? Link fence. There will be a redwood fence. Maybe it may be a combination of redwood and chain link on the back section, but the front section that you can see will definitely be redwood. Okay. With the removal of the trees when you come in from country club driving down Dundee Avenue are they going to strip the trees out along Dundee there so you see basically when you come around the corner you'll see this huge tank. No, and we there's a few in the middle of site that are coming out. And then the one small redwood is actually on the edge of the redwood bro above. And we will be planting trees along that fence line along Dundee as well, along with bushes and things that have been proposed to be planted there. Okay, so with your property line, I guess what I'm trying to get at with there is no parking off Dundee Avenue then for your property right. Not that is not a plan access for the district to access that property. No. Okay. So one last thing the pump house where is that located on the front towards country club or back by the tank area. The pump station is right off the side of the tank between the tank and Dundee Avenue. And it is being placed with this, the county setbacks from Dundee Avenue. And what are the county setbacks. I do believe that 20 feet. Okay, I just feel everything is going to be really cramped on that property, especially with Peter Parker's property being in that angle in the back there. But you've answered basically my questions. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so I see Peter Parker is back up there but we I don't know if we want to try him one more time and then move on to the next. Peter can you hear us. We still can't hear you Peter if you're if you're talking. Peter might be better if you could also call in on a phone line. And maybe you could communicate with us over the phone line better. Okay, so we'll go ahead and go on to mark Randall's in the meantime. So I had a question about emergency access. It makes sense that you would replace the steel plates to allow for emergency vehicle access. The only question I had is how long is that expected to take because over the entire length of the trench I would expect it to be a pretty slow process. But if only part of the trenches uncovered at a time that could be relatively quickly done. Yes, so as the construction as they're trenching on the roadway. The typical way we go about this is usually there's only one or two plates off the trench at a time. And so that we're only open in the area that works actually being done. Everything else will already have been plated and so normally it'll be like I said a one to two plate section that would be open. So I mean you're, we're talking like five minutes or less to be prepared to have emergency vehicles come through. Okay, that makes sense. And then they slide those plates right off of the trench line. So they're in place in the event of emergency is all they have to do is slide those plates back over the trench. Yeah, I understand that it's just the plates themselves way 250 pounds to 500 pounds. They're pretty heavy and you have to use heavy equipment to move them. So that was the only concern there. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mark. Okay, we can. It looks like David lowers next. You're muted right now, David. I just unmuted myself. Can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Well, I'm just concerned about two things. You guys have covered a lot of stuff and I really applaud your efforts to give us the castor oil we need when we're sick because I run a water company up in Sierra's and I know how difficult it is to give people what they need. Even though they don't want it. There are a lot of concerns, but I won't go any further than I'm a little concerned about what the garbage corral is going to look like because right now it's even overflowing how it is and it is it going to shrink or grow or be dealt with it in any fashion. This question number one, and question number two, since I live right, right next to the old tanks, what happens to them when the new tanks in service? Rick, you want to take that? Well, you know, we don't believe that we don't hear your, your ongoing garbage collection. We know that that the end of the street there is pretty much where all the cans are put. We believe that there will be plenty of room for the for the garbage. And even if the garbage cans encroach in front of the district driveway, that's not a big deal. You know, we get out and move garbage cans all the time. When we get done with the project, the old tanks will be removed, and most likely that parcel will be surplus. We haven't quite got that far down the road, but definitely the old tanks will be removed and we try not to maintain property that we don't need. So most likely that parcel will be surplus. If I could add to that to David on the whole corral of the garbage cans up there, we really don't propose any work in that area at all. We won't be dismantling that thing. We won't be touching it. We won't put putting a new one back in there. It's planned to keep that area status quo as we don't believe that it's on the property to begin with. Right away. That's right away. And so we won't we don't propose any work in that area. I'm not muted. That's, that's a good answer. There is a fire hydrant right there. And I'm curious about how that ties into the new tank. So that'll be the tie in for our pump station that'll be pumping out of the new tank that pump station that's sitting next to there will pump the water from that tank. And that'll be the tie in point to get into the upper system to pump up to the spring tank that is up higher in the system. Thank you. And thank you for your work. Thank you. Thank you, David. All right, it looks like we have Mike Alperin next. Hello, can you hear me. Yes. I, some of my questions have been answered by your presentation. But I still have one point that I wanted to try to cover and that is the traffic control people. I feel that they should have radios and that there should be someone stationed at the bottom of scenic near the highway and there should be a sign there stating that the road will be there will be delays. And so if let's say an ambulance were to come up the hill, the person down there could radio up and have the road starting to be cleared, you know, much more quickly. And also another person placed at where Sylvia comes into scenic is where the beginning of the one lane road is so if there was someone stationed there. They could keep people from driving up the one lane road until the construction equipment was cleared. But having having that that radio control and also having a cell phone in the possession of one of those traffic control people with a phone number that we could call. I guess maybe it's similar to what the calling the district would be and having them transfer a message but still it would be seemingly more expedient to have a number that we could call and let them know that we needed to come through. So, you know, your information says that you intend to open the road for 10 or 15 minutes every hour or 45 minutes or whatever. And to me that if the traffic was very backed up or perhaps non existent the times of opening the road could be regulated in order to accommodate either no traffic or or an excessive traffic. Sitting sitting down below at wherever Sylvia or wherever for an hour, waiting for the road to open would be very trying and it would also be impossible for people like FedEx and UPS to as soon as they saw that they would turn around and not deliver our packages. And so, some kind of, I think, better control, more finely tuned control would be very beneficial. And, you know, we want to know that the contractor would be amenable to keeping, keeping things flowing rather than just trying to meet his schedule. And so we would like to know about how that might be handled. I have sent in messages concerning the pump and I really don't understand exactly what's going on. Is there a pump down at the swim tanks already? Yes, there is. Okay, well that answers part of my question. So the pump that's being installed at the new location would, what is the purpose of that? Why is that necessary if the pump down at the swim tanks is already pumping water up there? We need to have that pump at the tanks for the supply of wet well for the pump to pump out of the pump into the upper zone. So that's why the pump is located adjacent to one of those redwood tanks. So once we remove those tanks, we're going to remove that wet well and we don't pump right out of the main line because that'll pull water away from customers, has a potential. So we'll move that pump right up next to the new swim tank for the wet well. And the contractor will be required as part of the project and the bid to submit a traffic control plan for the district to review and for Ben Lohman fire to review. The director of operations has taken Ben Lohman fire chief Stacy Bromley out to the site, drove the area, discussed traffic control. And we feel that we can put together an acceptable traffic plan with the contractor to follow. You know, we don't limit the contractor a lot of times we ask the contractor to tell us how they're going to make this traffic control plan work, how they're going to keep the road open, how they're going to address emergency traffic. And yes, I would assume that radios and traffic control will be needed. I was part of the project on building the upper tank at the end of country club all the way to the top. And we took the tank up in the back of pickup truck basically and that's why this tank has been selected because it's in panels. And so it takes a small vehicle so you're not trying to get some oversized vehicle and 18 Wheeler, you know, something that doesn't belong up there to try to get up that hill. You know the biggest type of equipment that we'll see going up and down that will be a concern for traffic control will be, you know, concrete truck, a smaller model dump truck, you know very similar to the type of equipment that goes up and down on the road now on you know remodeling homes in the neighborhood at the size of a garbage truck. This project doesn't take large equipment to construct. And again, hopefully we're only in the roadway on the pipeline, approximately two weeks. It's not like, you know, the project we give what close to a year to to complete a lot of that work is off the road where most of this work is off the roadway on the actual parcel on constructing the tank the concrete ring wall footing and then bringing the tank up in the back of the small vehicles and interacting the tank and you know, constructing the pump station, which that'll all be done. The majority that will be done from the property itself. We've done many of these projects on one way roads in and out we did the mainline above this tank up country club, which you know those roads going up all the way to the top. We did some dual access but a lot of it was one way access as well. And we worked, we worked and got folks through. We will have a good traffic plan and we will require the contractor to stick to that plan to make sure that we get the services will we won't work on the morning of the garbage pickup. We will make sure that the roadways often we work with garbage companies will work with FedEx will work with UPS and so forth. You know, there will be, you know, some delays here and there as roads are being opened, and as we're moving traffic through but they'll be, they'll be minimal, it'll be minimal during the two week process. Thank you. I am still a little bit concerned about people like UPS and FedEx being able to get through in a timely manner so that they don't have to give up on us. I also mentioned another site that is up on Caledonia where there's a small cabin there. And I, and I'm not saying to give up on this tank, but I'm saying that possibly in the future I'm wondering if that site had any possibilities for perhaps another tank. During this process in preparation for this meeting there's been a couple people that suggested other sites, and we looked at a couple APNs higher up. One of the, one of the attributes that was involved in the selection of this parcel is the elevation. You know, your water pressure is set by elevation. As you move the tank up and down the hill in elevation, your water pressure changes. The higher we go in that area, the higher the pressure down lower will be, and it will cause problems. We won't be able to move those pressures and bump up, you know, we'll have extremely high pressures in the water system that cause other problems. We're fortunate to have this site with little environmental disruption at the proper elevation. It's all, it's almost too good to be true that it's going to match almost the same height as the existing tanks now. And that's real important in design of a water system. We have a tank up there already, the 100,000 gallon tank, and this, the site that I was looking at is actually below that by some feet. So I don't know that it would cause any kind of great increase in the pressure. But I don't know, I guess you have your reasons for not wanting to use that parcel. Well, the cause, the problem with that is, is that's another zone, that's the zone that will be pumping out of this new tank to and moving that tank down the hill will not allow us to supply pressure to the higher people in that neighborhood. So, if we move tank down and lowers the pressure in the system, and there's high reaches going up into the neighborhood above Jackson, and up in there, that would not get water at that point. Well, as far as I know this tanks area location that I've suggested is above all the houses. But where you start to pump the water from the bottom of the hill coming up down a scenic drive, we would have pressures that our pipelines wouldn't be able to handle from down in highway nine. There's a pressure break halfway up the hill at those redwood tanks, and then the pressure goes back down to zero, and then we start climbing the hill again. Otherwise, we'd see the pressure from the very, very top of country club, all the way down the highway nine and our main lines are existing main lines would not be able to handle those pressures. Okay, well, I'm not sure I got my question answered, but I'm just wondering why the upper tank the hundred thousand gallon tank, being very close in high in elevation to the site that I've suggested. Why there would be such a problem. The problem is is 20 psi and pressure drop, and there's people up country club that if they lost 20 psi to their meter, they wouldn't have water at their house. Okay, well if it's that much than I, and I guess I can't complain. So, okay, well, I guess I guess that's about as much as we're going to get going here with with what I have mentioned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, we'll go on to Sandy and us. Sandy, you're, you're ready to go you're there you go. I just had a couple of questions so my house is right by the tanks you're about to abandon. I love those tanks, even though they leak like a sieve. And I appreciate all your efforts to try to save them over the years. I'm the one that calls the San Lorenzo Valley emergency water person and say, they're really looking bad now, but I am grateful that you are coming up with a solution. So I want to say that first, I'm grateful for you guys. I have a couple of questions. So I recently bought the two lots next to the old water tanks. So this is a selfish question. I want to know what you're going to do with the old water tanks because I want them, because I love them. And so that's a side question and you guys can talk to me later about that. Also, I had a thing about the road. So my late husband used to be the guy that repaired the road every time we had an infrastructure leak, which we know our infrastructure let's all be honest as challenges. And so my late husband was the guy that would always go out with the road patch and help the water guys and help everybody fix their road. So in this new construction thing, what I'd like you guys to throw in for our inconvenience is to repave our roads. I think you should do that because I think I paid $476 last month for my water bill, because I have a lot of organic stuff growing in different things. And I check my water pipes all the time. So my point is this. Why don't you for our inconvenience. I'm a road down repaving our roads. I'm a negotiator I work for the Santa Cruz County Office of Education I was former director of alternative education, and I'm here to negotiate a deal. So my thought for you guys is, so due to our inconvenience, you should repave our roads. And I would be thrilled and support the project I already do, but I would like you to do that for all your consumers who really care about our community. And we have roads from all the ruptures, every however many feet where where the junctures happen, and I've lived here for 35 frickin years. So I want to say, I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. And I think you should throw in a whole road repayment program for Dundee Jackson and Country Club. That's all I'm saying, because I'm working a deal here. That's it. I love you guys. And you guys whenever I call are so awesome. I'm just saying. I think you should do that for the community for the inconvenience, even though you're really doing the right thing by providing better fire safe and all the other stuff. I think you get great traction with the community. If you say, and by the way, we're going to repave your roads and throw $3 on our bill. I don't care. Just, I'm just telling you, I ran 24 school programs. And I think I know what I'm talking about. So there it is. I'm excited. And also I'm interested in buying your water tanks and your property when you're all done with the show. Amen. How are you done. Just a little quick on the road where we are going to do the area we are trenching and putting installing the new main line. We are planning an overlay of those roads. No, no, but make make us happy. Rick, make us happy. You know, Jim or posts and I, you know, we go way back. I go back way in the time machine. So make us happy. Just pave all the roads around there and you will be the rock star of the community. We will. I mean, after I'm talking after. The areas that we do construction in, we will do a complete overlay of those areas where we trench to put pipeline. Well, how about though, wait, wait, wait, back to truck back to truck up, buddy. Back to truck up. Think about how many times somebody's had to come out there with road patch because the infrastructure had a challenge. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm not dissing anybody. I'm just saying, how about for the first time in the world. Take care of this other little small community and I know you guys do a lot of good work. I have no issue with that. I'm the partner of the director of the water company who talked to you earlier in the Sierras. I'm just saying, wouldn't you be in the popular group, which maybe you care about or not, but you say, Hey, you know, because of the inconvenience, we're going to make sure because we've busted lines all over. In fact, we had a bus right by my house that's on a plastic pipe. You know, one of those patches that we've been doing for years. And I'm just thinking if you guys fix the roads, you're going to be heroes in this community. And maybe that's not important to you, but I just thought I'd throw it out there. Thank you. God bless you. I'm done. Thank you, Sandy. All right, and we'll go over to Matt Johnston. There we are. Hello folks. You answered some of my questions. I want to just continue a little bit on what Sandy was saying if you take a walk about 100 feet up country club past Peter Parker's house. The spot's been leaking for maybe a couple of years. Pipe is within a foot or so of the road, the outside edge of the road all along where the pipeline runs now is slumping. So there definitely are impacts to the leaky infrastructure on the roads outside of that area. I'm expecting the, as Sandy request, would it would be great if you could pave the whole loop, but at least in the areas where you find a leak and that leak may be contributing to the failure of the road. And as you go along, I mean, I've lived here for 14 years now 13 years now, and I've watched that section of the road just slump. Now it's about a foot and a half to two feet lower than where the road was when I got here. I'm actively moving water seeping in from the pipeline. So please take a look at that and consider, if you have to fix the pipeline, it would be great to get the pipeline two feet down, rather than at the surface where it keeps breaking. And then of course, once you fix the pipeline paving. You had mentioned earlier that the in terms of the fencing around the tank. The chain link in the back tank is round. What's the back is the back Peter Parker's house so he has just a chain link fence looking at the tank, or is it the three sides of street that are all facing everyone who walks the neighborhood. I don't understand what the back of the tank is in terms of doing chain link versus redwood it'd be nice just to do a redwood fence all the way around it. But I'm just I'm good you can answer me I'm going to put these points out there. A question on the driveway, going into the intersection. How many parking places will that take out. And will you provide parking places maybe along Dundee or somewhere else to make up for them unless you want us parking in front of your gate, which I assume you don't. Any questions I can throw out and wait for an answer. Any answers. Take that. Oh, so right now. There's an area between the parking spaces and done D that's very much patch. And the majority of the entrance of the site is going to take out that patch of berries and then we will probably end up the driveway probably end up about one car parking spot there on the end of the parking area. The district does not plan to put any parking in. This time. Once we get into the site and start laying things out a little bit more. That'll determine what more what else can be done on that. Okay, there is a great change right there with the underneath that very patch so most of that very patch is a slope. So, at least one parking place will go. Maybe, maybe more you're not sure and no plans to replace them. Okay. During construction how big of a crew do you guys have doing the work. And where will they park while they're working. Can't really answer that right now Matt until they're the contractor selected to find out you know what their workforce is. I can say typically they're not large crews. However, I can't speak for that until we actually select a contractor and then we sit down and talk about you know the traffic control plan. And you know the construction plan and then we realize that it's tight ingress and egress on the site. And it's more than just the ingress and ingress it's it's where people park. If they have guests over where people park if they're, you know, going to visit somebody hot doesn't really happen these days but lack complete lack of extra parking in the neighborhood to be taken up for a year by by construction workers there should be a plan. Yes, that plan with the contract. And I will say I'm in doing all these long pico tanks right now. Yeah, and every one of these sites is very tight. And the crews that are working on those, the maximum crew that I've seen on site is for people at that out those sites and those are two tanks, two tanks per site with grading and everything else. And they're in there on those sites, they have to park on site. There's nowhere else to park. So I would imagine that this is the same thing and there's enough room there to where they could part once they get their grubbing and grading done that there's no problem with them being able to make an area where they can park their vehicles out of everybody's way on site, in order to keep the area clean. Okay we'd like to see that be a requirement would be great, rather than just we'll figure it out later. Okay, I think that for the first couple days it's going to be an issue though, due to having to get in there great and grow, but once it's graded and grub, they're going to have area to stage park working. But that will be in the in the RFP request for proposal on the bid on the project and we will discuss the, you know, the lack of access for the site and, and as part of the bidders the contractors bidders walk through that will be discussed. No, I mean, you know, they're going to have to have a staging yard, and the majority of all their staging and vehicles are going to have to be most likely down. If they can get, you know, they've got to get approval from Caltrans most likely, it'll be down and across Ohio Park in the big turnout that a lot of different construction folks you use for staging, and then they're going to have to, you know, they're going to have to have a carpool to go up top and and and choose their, you know, their vehicles, because there just is no room up there and we realize that and that'll be discussed during the bidding process. That'll be highlighted during the bidding process. Okay, mandatory, it'll be a mandatory site visit as well. You know, some, some bids don't require, but this project will require a mandatory site visit because of the additional spatial concerns. Okay. So the last little bit is regarding the, the, the traffic control. You know, I noticed in this presentation you didn't talk about the open for 45 minutes and then close for 10. Is that still part of the plan. And as I pointed out before it seems like that is a new mitigation under sequel. Are you guys planning on recirculating or no. I'm not quite sure. Amanda or Jennifer can answer. Yeah. So this is Amanda Anthony and I'm with Rinn Khan and wrote the initial study mitigated negative declaration so I can hop in on that. I'm, I'm actually looking here at this equal guidelines, defining when recirculation of a negative declaration is required prior to adoption. And it's really when a substantial revision is made, meaning a new avoidable significant effect is identified and mitigation measures or project revisions must be added in order to reduce the effect to significant significance or the lead agency determines that the proposed mitigation measures will not reduce potential effects to less than significance and new measures or revisions must be required. So in this case, we're seeing the clarifications to the ISM and D to be providing clarifying or amplifying language and information to just clarify. What the district is planning to do to manage traffic controls. It's not identifying a new significant impact. It's just clarifying information. Jen, how do you want to add to that at all. I think that that captures it we had stated in the document that there would be traffic control measures as part of the project. It's part of the district standard contractor requirements and this was just providing additional detail, really based to respond to the requests from the neighbors about what those, what those would really include. And so in this instance it's not a new significant impact, nor is it new mitigation it's just providing additional information to respond to some of those questions that were asked for to understand better understand what the plans were for traffic control. Okay, because the initial initial study had said that traffic that were no impacts due to traffic and standard traffic control measures would be in place. That raised the issue of the, the narrowness of the roads the backing up of traffic, perhaps, although, you know, up and down with once you open up that traffic vehicles will pass, try and pass through but be blocked on the other side. And then it was revised to have the open, open closed thing which was, I don't think it's a standard traffic control, just your typical traffic control measure of opening 10 minutes an hour. Maybe it may not be but it seemed like it was added in as a response to identify a significant impact. But I understand you guys are not going to revise it you're going to move forward with it. Personally, I'm not going to take you to court over. The last pieces is with the road and when you're doing the trenching. I know it's typical for a county if you get an encroachment permit from the county that you don't block off the road before 830 to allow the morning commute traffic to go through. Can we get a commitment from you that you won't block the road off and start the actual trenching until after 830 so that the morning traffic can get out. We usually have a standard on that matter of nine o'clock. All of our construction project sites and all the whole traffic control plan thing that will I mean that was the plan the whole time we knew it was very tight roadway there. And we did some pipeline structure not long ago we had the same thing that we did on that pipeline. And with it being notified posted and getting the information out there and getting the exact timelines of when it's open. It actually worked out really well because people figured out that okay this is my time that I get to go down the hill, or this is my time I get to come up the hill, and they would show up at that time, or just because and keeping it on schedule is the best way to keep it flowing. Yes, how does that work with UPS and FedEx. Are they aware of the times when it's going to be open and closed. They will be we will be reaching out to them will contact them and we will work with them and we'll find out the mail persons route and usually the mail person. And I know it's like a piece of FedEx but we will reach out to them, but the mail person is an easy one because usually they're the same time in the same neighborhood every day. Right. And so we'll make sure that we're ready for them, every time with UPS effects will reach out to them see the best way of handling it with them, and we'll work something out we'll make sure that you all are getting your packages deliveries are being made or picked up, mails being delivered. We're different gas companies. Yeah. And, and, and I have to strongly agree with James by having these set times that will make sure the road is open. It really it, it, it takes the stress of people trying to come and go at all times, and it limits it. Although we open the road but people do try to make those times. And then there's less traffic when we do the construction and we get we try to move people through. You know, it's important that we get people through. And there are times you know with UPS with drivers and, and so forth, if we can time this so we're not in the Christmas season, then there's not temporary drivers and those type of things that, you know, they just want to get in and out and toss the package. So we timed this during the right time of year. When the package delivery is not as high as it is in the Christmas season and that we should have a pretty good success for it. Nothing's perfect, but we will work with these agencies. Okay, and then I just want to go back to the very first, the fence around the tank for Peter's sake, please have a redwood fence on his side. You know, it's, it's, it's what they can see. I mean, there's a, you know, I'm not sure which house is Peter and that it's Jason. If they can see it. Because what we normally do with fencing that gets down to normally we contact neighborhoods, and we talk to people as it goes in and that fence that you saw is actually a fence that we have at another tank site we just built and that would fence goes to three sides and the far back side where there's no houses is where the chain link is. So we will work and if it if it requires a full 360 around the tank and redwood. It's not a large fence and then we will do that in redwood. And you know, we, we like to go with chain link, if it's possible, just because of its very low in maintenance, but we also understand the importance of the visual aesthetics of the home and that's why we hope from home that's why we did the art, the the artist rendition to show what an actual tank site that's actually a fence that was lifted and put in that picture from another tank site in Boulder Creek. I know for for Peter sake again it's the noise that he's most concerned about because he is right. And I know that I know that he's very very concerned. I'm not sure he's the gentleman that went out there's been some folks that went out to another one of our pump stations. We will work in that pump station that they went to was just your standard concrete building without the noise reduction doors and louver vannings and so forth. I don't I doubt if you will hear anything coming from that pump station but you know the proof will be when it's constructed. And we are planning to minimize noise. I will say to that to all pumps, I will say to that to is that Peter is also positioned in an area where the tank is going to buffer. Yeah, station is so the tanks between Peter and the pulsation so it's going to help that area on that in. And right now that the two pumps existing pumps and the other tanks are in open enclosures. There's a red composition roof over them the sides are open. There's no noise canceling or reduction. And those folks who live right around those pumps. There's nothing there now, and it's going to be just going to be the difference between night and day when that facility is completed. Hey, thank you. Thank you, Matt. It looks like we have a few repeat people asking questions I don't know if we want to skip to someone that hasn't gone it looks like we have Nick Nakari. I don't think he spoke yet and same with Peter is back on. Rick, do you have a preference if we go back through or no you know we're moving pretty good through the questions I really would like to take everybody's questions if possible. Yeah, but I think we should go back to wish to stay with people that haven't spoken and then go back. I agree. Great. So we'll go ahead and get Nick Nakari. Evening Nick. Can you hear us. Thank you. Can you hear me now. Okay, great. You know I was originally against this tank way before the CZU fire this summer which we all had to evacuate and we all were wondering if our homes would even be here when we returned. If anybody who's against the aesthetics of the tank. I would like to say consider the aesthetics of your home as a pile of ash because that is the alternative global warming isn't going away drought you're going to be getting longer it's nice to have water during a drought and anybody who's saying, Well, we want this nebulous site further up the road. They're not considering that you spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars, and this site has come through with flying colors. My family and I really want to thank the district for bending over backwards to bring us as much needed and overdue million dollar improvement to our neighborhood it's phenomenal I mean, how could anybody be against this tank unless they were basically really inconsiderate of their neighbors and kind of suicidal about their own home. I would say that I own that property, and I was against it. But after the CCU fire I turned totally for it. I'm going to respond to a couple of things one is that Matt said that he's concerned about the parking there. Everybody knows up scenic way you park on your own property he has no right to park in that property now as it's mine. He doesn't have any right to park on it when it's yours either. And you know it's for him to say that he expects to be able to park on someone else's property. You know I don't know if he'd mind if I park on his property. But, you know it's going to be an Adele he mentioned the visuals on the tank, and it will be an Adele which also kind of secludes it and will behind a large grove of redwoods you guys are putting an offense and trees and bushes so you've really covered it as humanly possible. I understand about ups trucks we get our deliveries from Amazon to. So, you know it's great that you're doing all that. You can't fly the materials in by helicopter or drop them by parachute there's going to have to be some trucks, same with highway nine. I mean, nobody's house up here could have even been built without construction trucks coming up so let's not be so selfish about our own little private parking area and consider the community. Also, I would like to say that I have contacted the person at the end of Dundee and there is an alternative route available from down by Sylvia, all the way up to Dundee and an emergency vehicle can get in during that. I had mentioned repaving the road. And what I would like to say to her is, I live up here to and I know what that road slate because I'm the one that's out there now her I guess her previous or her late husband was paving the road a little bit. People up here know that they've seen me out there for 10 years paving the road, and I have never asked the water district to pave our road except for what they dig up. It's not the responsibility. It's the road maintenance department. You can't ask the water district to do something that's not the responsibility. At the same time, you like asking social services to repave the road. It's just not your business. So I do see a few people up here that are concerned about issues. Of course we can't move it further up the road. That just doesn't make sense. It's not even possible to get past Mike Alpern's house. Unless you're really risking it because the road is so bad right there. Rick, I would like to ask you about a little bit with the construction vehicles, you guys seem like you're doing a whole lot on that, and there will be communications between different ends of the safety people out there. But I think that you've done everything humanly possible. Why would somebody be so selfish as to deny this amazing gift to our community. So Rick, could you go over a little bit more of, you know, what the district is doing in the way of mitigations. I think that Sandy has a right to want the road repave, but she needs to contact the road maintenance department. You guys are covering up any damage that you do, and you're going to repave the road and I fought hard to get that in there and you put it in. You guys are doing an excellent job of bringing water safety to our community. I mean, who it's not suicidal in a sense would not want to double and this tank will double our capacity for water up here. So if you guys could just make a few comments about what I've said, let me know that at least the audio was on. Thanks. And I'd like to get back to you after that. I'm I look at it, you know, the district wants to be a good neighbor and wants to work with the neighborhood and projects today it's important that all steps are taken regarding you know repairs to the roadway at the district damages and good environmental stewardship during construction. You know, we did hire a tree, our barista come in and do evaluations of the grove of redwoods. It is very important that the grove of redwoods are not removed and they will not be removed I think we're removing one small tree that's being requested redwood tree, due to the fact that it's unhealthy and the arborist says it needs to come out. Otherwise, and we're replanting native for animal food or definitely have I think four to five native types of berries and hazelnut to replant. I think we're putting an owl house in for road and control on the pump station. But it, you know, I appreciate Nick support but it's very important that we get your questions answered. And it's very important to the district that we are good neighbors. Can I can I ask a question. There seems to be some concern Mike had mentioned about the top of the pump station the roof. I said well it's going to be concrete and he said yeah but the roof won't be concrete of course it won't. But is there going to be sound insulation on the roof too. It'll be inside the building but we are actually looking, you know, construction materials that come a long ways architectural wise and we are looking at a solid concrete. We've changed we're changing our standards to address fire management or facilities, and we are looking to put in a complete concrete pump station small pump station, very similar to what you see out in state parks I hate to use this comparison. The rest room facilities that you see in state parks that are solid concrete. Our standards have changed with the fire, and we are hardening all of our sites. So, I think you'll see a solid concrete pump station, and you'll see sound door ring on the main front door going in and sound venting. Another part of my question Rick, if I may, on Dundee Avenue we've got a narrow road there and sometimes people park on Dundee in a little spot that's by the property, and it sticks out in the road. So Chuck had asked earlier about that because that is a concern for people that have to drive down Dundee. So, we lost you here. Right. So do we want to, while we're waiting for Nick to come back we want to move to someone else who hasn't spoke, Carly. Sure. So we have Peter Parker again. I just talked to Noel and he said that looks like Peter's mic is outdated for zoom. So Peter if you can call in on the phone I believe that was sent in the chat to you directly, or you can also put your question into the chat and all I can read it out. If we want to do it that way. Are we sure that he's not one of those numbers that has called in? I'm not sure. Maybe, I don't think we have anything in the chat. Let's try to bring Peter back on and see if we can hear him this time. Peter, can you hear us? You might be one of those numbers. There's Peter. Also, if you have a camera, Peter, you can put your phone number up there if that is one of your phone numbers. Because we can't communicate with you. Okay. Well, let's see. Is that the one right there? Day 31 on the top now. Yeah, we have a number Peter last four digits seven four four six that's muted. If that's you. Just go ahead and speak up. You're permitted. But you're muted right now. I actually believe Peter's number ends in the 4275 from calls. There's Peter's number right now 4275. How do we unmute him? How do you unmute phones? What's the key stroke? Anybody know? CTV, do you know how to unmute the phone? Okay, well, we can come back and try again. Here, but we can let's go ahead and move on. So I see Mark Randall's is next. Hello. You can hear me. Hello. Yes. Oh, great. Boy, that was quite an adventure getting through. Yeah. So thank you. Okay. It's my turn to talk. Yes. Yes. Okay. Great. Thanks. So concerning the pump noise. I went up to the station on Blackstone Terrace. For a couple of days and waited for the pump to come down. It never did. And I called Carly today and James was able to turn the pump on remotely while I was sitting right next to it. So that was great. I really appreciate you guys. Thank you. Making the effort to make that happen. So here's my, here's my experience with the, the pump station. So it's not soundproof. Definitely. It has a metal door that's vented. And what I noticed was that I could hear the, the noise from about a hundred feet away. 30 or 40 feet away. You could hardly hear it at all. So I think it's going to make a big difference. How that pump station is oriented. Or as I think Rick was saying, you're looking at a, at a new design. It's, it would be completely concrete, including the roof. And that might actually be truly soundproof. So this one was not quiet. I was a little disappointed that it was as loud as it was. I mean, I'm, I'm sure it's going to be better than having an open pump, but my property in my drawing is very close to this unit. So that is a concern for me. And I also, so yeah. So let me also just back up a little bit here. At the last meeting we had in person last year at the beginning of this year, we had asked for the location of the tank to be marked on site so that we could actually see where it is. And when I look at the plot plan, it looks like it, it looks like the retaining wall cuts right up on the slope to my property and that the tank is possibly only three feet away from my property. Although I had been told before that it was going to be located down in the Dell. So there's some confusion about that. I would really like to see some sort of marker go up. We did ask for that at the last meeting that we had in person and your staff agreed to put up some story polls or some type of thinking where we could actually see where, where it would be. So based on the fact that I was there today and listened to a pump station that supposedly is the same that is being or was being planned for this site and has a similar pump. I think it's a 3.5 horse unit. The proximity to my property is, is definitely something that I'm going to be noticing and having to deal with. So I would really like to see some kind of story pool go up so that we can locate that. The rendering that was shown and I know that that's just a photograph of another tank that was superimposed on the site. And it also the comment was that there was no grading, but it looks like quite a bit of excavation. It looks like that retaining wall based on the topography lines is about maybe six to eight feet tall. So again, I'm just a little concerned about the proximity to my place. And so I just like to request that you do mark that definitely so that we can tell where it is. And if you're anticipating a better design that's even more soundproof, that would be, that would be great to hear. I think that's all I have. Everybody else is dealing with traffic considerations. And I just wanted to report it on the location being marked and also the my experience with the pump noise today. So thank you. Peter, thank you. Thank you for being persistent to call in tonight. Yeah, that pump station, I don't believe has any soundproofing whatsoever. You know, it has straight louvers on the doors and he has a composition roof. You know, it is a block building, but it, the sound does come right through the door most likely. We have not received any complaints in the neighborhood from that pump station. And then there again, the last pump station that replaced was just the pump laying on the ground that was not in a enclosure. So it is a lot better than it has been, but it'll be a completely different design. There will be, you know, soundproofing of that. And we can mark out, I'm, I don't believe the retail, I will double check, take a look at plans. I don't believe that retaining wall six to eight feet tall. I think it's like two to three feet tall, but we can double check that I'm not, you know, I don't have that in front of me and we can do some markouts. I will have, we will have to re get permission to enter property again by the owner, but that'll be no problem to go on property. And we can do that. Well, that sounds great. Would there be a way to notify us? Yes. Once the, the tank location has been marked. Definitely. You know, we probably would like to block scenes that, you know, you, your property, a butts up to our property or our potential property. Are you, I can't picture which house is yours. Of its will be behind the tank because most likely the tank will be in between your property and the pump station. And that's a little. This house is the one with the wire fence on the backside of the site. It goes from country club down to Dundee. Yeah, then there should be, yeah, this tank should be in between the station and his house. My correct names. Yes. Yeah. Actually, actually it's not as I'm looking at the plot plan. The pump station is located to the east side of the tank. And I'm on the north side of the tank. So if you wanted to put the tank between my house. And the, and the pump station, you'd have to put the pump station on the south edge of the tank rather than the eastern edge. You will definitely look at that. Okay. Yeah. And, um, you know, my, my house is, is located on the, uh, is not on that side of the property, but that whole property is, uh, actually, you know, being used. We spent a lot of time outdoors. There's a patio right there above the, uh, above the proposed tank location. Um, so I am concerned about impacts and, um, I'll feel a little better once I, once I see where the exact location of the tank is. And also, uh, possibly you could, uh, mark the pump station as well. In the, are you still with me? Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm just going to make sure. Okay. Thank you. Um, Also during that last in-person meeting that we had, um, when we were asking about having the location of the tank staked out. And, um, I think that somebody on the staff commented that, well, we're, we haven't decided exactly where that's going to go yet. Um, and maybe that was the reason that it was never staked out. But every time I've seen this plan, it hasn't changed. And it shows the tank and the pump house in the same location. So I don't know if it was, um, If there was ever a point after we started discussing this in the same location, uh, was flexible. But, um, I, uh, I'd like for somebody to address that as well. The tank, the tank has moved. But I mean, when he's, when our engineering manager made that call me. Is we were not done positioning in exactly the right way. It has moved, but there's not enough room on that site to move the tank more than three, four or five feet in either direction. So a little bit of movement on the site plan. You don't really see it, but it was, it was adjusted a little bit, but other than that, it wasn't much off of where it was going to be. And, and once, you know, if it was. Go ahead. I'm, I'm sorry. I was just going to clarify. Do you know that, uh, if it was moved to the north toward my property. It was actually, yes, it was actually pushed back to the north. Two feet from the original site plan. Okay. Yeah, it just looks awful close. And, and that was due to the root structure of the redwood grove. That is, um, that we were having to maintain and say, and we had to push it back to get the distance that the rest had put in there without damaging the roots. Those are roots. Okay. Well, let's get that marked so that we can actually see on the ground, uh, where it's going to be. Um, and then I, you know, we can continue this discussion right now. It's, uh, it's really just hard to pinpoint. Understand. That makes sense. Right. And like, like James said, there's not a lot of room to, to move things around, but we are very concerned on the tree root structure and things may even change a little bit. You know, as we rub the property and do some, uh, test excavation for the foundation, we want to be sure we don't get into a, uh, a massive amount of large roots to that grove of redwood. Yeah. I understand. Um, and so given the location of the pump station, uh, you know, that's going to be, um, probably even more important, um, in terms of, uh, you know, the transmission of noise, not just to my property, but over to the houses on Dundee, uh, which are pretty close to that as well. But, you know, uh, we just need more information. If you're going to use a completely different, uh, design that soundproof, then that'll, that question will be academic. Um, in terms of the, um, you know, the, the proximity of the tank to my property, I'm not so concerned about the, uh, about the appearance. I think from what I can tell it's located, uh, several feet below my property, right? It also looks like it also looks like that retaining wall cuts into the slope. Uh, and I'm just a little concerned about destabilizing anything up above it. So, uh, without more information as to exactly where the tank is located or within two or three feet. Uh, I don't really know where to go with this. Um, so hopefully that's something that you guys can take care of, uh, soon. Correct. Okay. Well, that sounds good. I really, I really appreciate you guys taking this into consideration and helping me with the, uh, with the pump station today. Sorry you had to stay up there and wait because we can't, we can't turn those on and off. I know James was able to find a button somewhere that he pushed and he turned it on. But no, I was, I took my work up there and I was working for a couple hours. So it wasn't wasted time, but it was wonderful to hear the pump come on and oh, okay. Now I can hear what it is. I wish it hadn't. You'll see a big difference in the sound deafening louvers, vented louvers that go into these buildings. We did a pump station out on. Zion drive road. And that got all sound deafening louvers venting in that building. And you can, and those are large pumps. And you can barely hear them outside the building. The doors to the concrete, they're, they're metal on the outside, but they're solid concrete with, uh, they're, they're ball bearing hinge. You can open and close them like a vault door at a bank, but boy, they're heavy. Well, if they're quiet, that's the main thing. That's our plan. Okay, great. Well, I appreciate the consideration. Thank you, Peter. And I'll. Yeah. You bet. Thank you guys. That's enough for me. Thank you, Peter. Okay. So we'll go ahead and move to Mark Randalls. Who's next in the queue. Yeah. Um, so I just had a question about the bidding process. Um, start spring 2021. It's pretty close. Uh, as far as projects like this go. Um, I was wondering when the plan was for this to go out to bid. Um, how long that would take. And those kind of things. Once we get the design. Um, I was talking with one of the consulting engineers of ours recently about this. And they figured for design on that is going to take two and a half months. So that puts us into the end of February. Uh, middle of March. And the bedtime on this though is not going to be very long. We'll probably put it off to bid for three to four weeks. Okay. That usually is enough time on a site, this size and a construction project of this. Of this magnitude to complete and get good bids at that. At that timeline. And then right then we move into construction. So we hope to go into construction by the end of April. Beginning of May. Okay. Um, and you guys have settled all the property details. It's just executing the contractor. The property purchase is contingent. The sequel. Okay. Very close. Um, I listened into a director's meeting several months ago. And I noticed one of the topics. Cool. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mark. All right. We'll go ahead and move back to Julie calls. Carlson. Hey, it's me. And my neighbor Chuck. Chuck has. A couple more. Things to ask, please. Just a real quick one. You're talking about doing planting on the site and stuff. Is there going to be irrigation on that? Because as everybody knows, it gets pretty hot up in the neighborhood. And if you're going to plan a bunch of plants with no water, they're going to die. Right. Well, that's one thing we have is water. And not to be, not to try to be funny or anything, but I do think it's going to be fun. Until we get these plants started maybe the first two years. And I think it's in one of the documents of, of how we plan to vegetate and irrigation. But the plants that will be selected. Our native plants. So once established, they should not need irrigation. Okay. And one last thing on the parking thing, Dundee Avenue is a private road. And we have had so many, some issues with people parking too close to Dundee. And it makes it hard to get down the road. There's a neighbor across the way that has a water meter right in the road. And if you go off the road, you're going to run over their water meter. So you guys should be aware of the parking. And kind of limited to this side on, you know, country club, not so much Dundee. If it's possible. I got a question on the parking thing. Dundee Avenue is a private road and we have had some issues with people parking too close to Dundee. So if it's possible. I got a question on that. I mean, that's come up a few times. And we'd like to work with. You people of the D. And figure out if we need to mitigate to where you can't park there or if you would want it to be widened. So there is parking there. I mean, we'd want to work with you on that. I would say no parking there because people, everybody lives up in the mountains. You park on your own property. And you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you shouldn't have to fly parking for people bottom line. They knew that when you moved up here. Right. And so with that, I mean, we could mitigate it's where we go in there at the structure. And plant in there, put road ties in there. And plant in there as well to where it narrows that down to where it's not. You know, inviting to people to park there. So I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I would like to let one last thing to applaud the lady with the resurfacing of the roads around there. As far as a one year project. That's going to be quite a disruption on everybody's lives up there for the year. So whatever you could do on the paving thing would be really appreciated. So enough said, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So it looks like we have David Laura next. Here I am. We need you. Go ahead. We can hear you. We have two computers in the same room which creates an echo. Um, Rick, I just wanted to inform you. Will you turn your son off? Yeah. Rick, I just want to inform you that yes, we live right above the pump station. Um, and two of your men came and put insulation because not us, but some other people that didn't, they must have been louder for, uh, complained and you guys responded and put some insult, some sort of sound insulation and a little pump shack there next to the wooden tanks about two years ago. All right. That was one thing I noticed that you didn't understand that that actually did happen. It was a long time ago, but I don't know what to say. I just don't know what to say about that. I'm just curious about your opinion. All right. And it's, to your credit. The next thing I got is existing water lines that are Polly. And above ground and I'm curious. What's going to be the debt, the, uh, disposition of the polyline that runs right below our house from the tanks up to Dundee. All of those lines. It's above ground. um water lines melted in the fire so David with this project those lines uh okay can you hear me uh now i can i'm sorry okay so the project here we go with the project uh with the removal of the water tanks and the pump station there below your house all of the piping above ground piping also gets removed because we will now be tied in in the street at the intersection of country club Jackson to the new pump station on the new site so all the polylines on that side hill all come out as well that that's good to know you need to mute again the other question i have is my understanding of what's your your talented technicians repair every welded joint around our house over the last couple of years so poly you know i run a water company uh up in the series we don't have poly we have i was supposed to cement which is uh not as resilient let me say but uh they use the same type of couplers and repair clamps to do that and what is going on is we're trying to get a whole neighborhood pitch in to repave our road but every time you guys come out and put one of those repairs in because it's really hard for them to fix because they also put a 12 inch slurry in around the pipe so they got a jackhammer every leak before they can put a wrap around compression fitting on it but i'm i'm kind of up against the same thing up in La Porte is that we don't want to repave the roads until the water lines are pretty secure or replaced so i i'd like to be able to work with you guys on i mean i think the polyline itself is just fine it's just the welds that they used are starting to fail or and that may be because the hill's moving slightly whatever for whatever reason so i want to know if you guys have any plans and this is a little bit out of the scope of the tank but for the water lines near the tank what like the one that blew the other day you know thousands of gallons of water went down the hill right behind us which we have put some hay over to kind of keep the erosion from happening but your your guys are you know stressed out they're running around aging water system i mean mine's 60 years old so it's got problems all the time i have to i'm the one that answers the call and fixes the problem though i understand but um like when they patch the road usually within a few months there's a four inch hole there because it's not compacted and i'm just a little little want to work with you guys on um since this is not opposed to what nick said earlier call the road department we have all paid to pave this road it's a private system and we're all looking at paying again to have it repaved and i'm just concerned about doing that before we have an intact water system yeah and unfortunately um i do know how bad that system is and i was in those holes myself 14 13 14 years ago um i repaired many leaks in that neighborhood and there seemed to have been a batch of pipe in the 90s that came out and we have two neighborhoods that that pipe went into and we're having the same issue in both neighborhoods and it's not only gone to the point where it's not just a weld we're actually getting pinholes and htpe pipe and nobody is like nobody's seen that and it's a new thing and then we started talking with PG&E and they're starting to get it in their polylines and so we don't have a plan at this time to do a pipe system pipe new pipe in that area we are working on our water master plan and then that will do a heat map of where leaks are and where we've had a majority of leaks and that will be one of the factors that pushes the neighborhood into a mainline replacement um that is in the works and is due to be complete here in january and we'll see where it lines out but i completely agree with you we are up there a lot we have made a lot of patches up there we have made a lot of repairs up there but right now at this time we do not have a pipe plan for that area so i should understand that we shouldn't repave our road for a few years until you guys decide what to do with that i i would go lean towards that yeah because if we do end up coming through there and putting a new pipeline in that we would work with the neighborhood for a resurface of the whole area right but i can't tell you if that's 10 years down the road or five years down the road at this point okay door number three has anyone ever considered that there's a whole lot of energy into traffic in these conversations of doing the work like they do on freeways at night i'm kind of shooting myself in the foot because i would be affected by me to me more and a few people around me more than anybody but all the other people would really benefit if it happened between say 10 p.m and 5 a.m just a thought yeah in a neighborhood like that we don't tend to like to do night work because it's in such close proximity to homes um we have done night work on barricade road and highway nine which is there's noise usually they're all night anyway but in a neighborhood like that there's no noise at night and it just be it's just not good pr right good good enough i just it occurred to me um next question is about the tank itself and both together should require either a vinyl liner or a usf coating which one is this gonna have gonna have the nfs 61 and it's a which has to be redone about every 10 to 15 years oh usually they have a 20 year lifespan 23 year life plan cool they have the new the new coatings they have now are really upgraded and a lot more um they hold up a lot better in the last question i have is order of construction will they be putting the water line in the lineup dundee or a country club first or the tanking first um i'm i'm seeing it as the construction at the tank site will begin and as that's going on they will probably move in and do that pipeline somewhere in the middle there but i would expect i personally i want to see it's where they open up the site enough to where they can stage and be off the roadway and out of the air you know keep everything open and then come into the piping that way they can put their equipment up into the site yeah i would think that the pipeline should be first just because of that but i'm not an engineer yeah it's just i mean we gotta be able to get it we gotta be able to put the equipment somewhere if you don't go into that site and start getting it opened up to put stuff somewhere that's the only place we really have to play cool you've answered all my questions thanks for the second chance and thanks for what you're doing thank you David thank you all right so it looks like i do see sandy mast is there um but we also have another question from dusty who hasn't asked a question tonight so we'll go to dusty first and then we'll come back to sandy after dusty can you hear us hello dusty dusty may have the same issues peter had if you have a phone number they can call in on we'll watch for a new phone number to pop up and if it does we'll stream you in but we're gonna move on to sandy and sandy if you can keep your comments good short it'd be great because it's your second time sandy it looks like you're muted i'm on you there we go dusty lives in my neighborhood and i was a teacher at san lorenza valley high school and junior high and i taught his son so dusty probably has a few things to say because he's had to do a lot of water mitigation to the road i don't know why he's not hooked in but i just want to thank you all i wanted to sign up for us to say thank you your chat function is turned off which they know because they don't want people like me last time going on three email addresses and harassing them so i get it but i just want to say this to you guys i appreciate all your efforts and i thought i would close with this we just want the infrastructure repaired and your guys are about that and this is the most traction i've ever seen since i moved here in 1985 which before some of you were born to say that you were the best water company ever and i should close the meeting with this because i think you're amazing and i appreciate i know you're trying to clean up on aisle nine as i like to call it and there's a lot on aisle nine it's a pain in the ass pardon my french and i just want to say thank you that's all i wanted to do that's why i put my hand up to say thank you because i recognize how hard it is i i ran 24 schools throughout the county with all the kids and i get what a little bit of what you're dealing with and you're doing an infrastructure that's really hard and all i want to say is thank you very much for all you're doing that's it thank you dusty hooky are you still out there you you want to try to get your comments in there's definitely no new phone number that popped up let's see if we can get them again go ahead and unmute dusty let's see we can get dusty hooky on the dusty you're there but we're not hearing you did a new phone number just pop in there's four now there was only three i would call it if i knew which one can we open the chat so dusty can tell us which one oh that number just went away again dusty if that's you uh oh you're open them all up i see what you're doing if any of those are your numbers you just gotta unmute them or call in with your number this is not dusty this is mardine um but i do have a question i uh looked at the diagram and uh i see that there's going to be a retaining wall um it looks like it's going to be right about in the area where our trash cans are currently being placed um and i want to know what's going to happen with our trash collection how is that going to where is that going to move to no the we don't have any construction planned up there where the trash cans are um the retaining wall is actually on the opposite side of the redwood trees from where the trash cans are and it runs along the okay country club between Peter Parker's house and the redwood grove the driveway is going to come from the intersection of country club in dandy so that it looks like it's going to go through where the cars are currently parking and then the redwood grove i see the redwood grove it looks like you've got the tree bases indicated there a little harder to decipher the diagram um okay so the scale is is difficult to understand but you're saying that that that retaining wall is going to be on the other side of the redwood grove from country club from the intersection so it's not going to affect our trash collection area at all no we have no plans to do any construction in the trash collection area um the driveway may take up one of the parking spots there but the driveway isn't set to be more than 12 feet wide at this point for plans so it's not going to be that invasive but it will be a little invasive okay all right that was my question thank you just are you still there have you tried to chat or tried to talk to us oh we got a new phone number i think it's the 5172 is the new phone number but dusty you're muted phones muted as well one of the phones are muted yes now the phone's unmuted there you go okay can you hear me now yeah we can hear you unbelievable i love technology well first of all there's a couple just a couple of things i'm kind of the new guy in the neighborhood here my wife and i moved here uh February 1st 1972 and um i think that the first thing that i see is that many guys that are on this meeting live up here so you're not going to be experiencing what we're experiencing and then um i've heard a lot of really great uh things about all of the work that's going to be done to minimize the impact on all of the neighbors up here but we all know that things happen you know a foreman gets you know he's moved the plates on and off a half dozen times in the last 30 minutes and he's going to be a little pissed off so you know i want to know who do we call if if things aren't going as perfectly as planned who do we call i mean of of you five lovely people who's there that we can talk to we will send a letter out dusty this is rick um me and you worked together many many years ago yep yep i was going to bring that up yeah work together on your projects we will send a letter out before construction starts with all the different information with an email tree so we can communicate with you asking for emails and most likely it'll be james our director of operation will be assigned your point of contact with with direct phone numbers and we'll also have a construction manager but and he will take his direction from james or an engineering manager um and we will have people and obviously you could always pick up the phone call me right we'll have people assigned to this project great that's that's um that's good news um and and going back to sandy mass point way back in the history of time um rick and i uh negotiated we were in the process of paving um this section of country club and because his water um trucks were were or maintenance trucks were up and down a road practically more than than some of the residents um those guys agreed to chip in um a little bit of money on the road maintenance um which was hugely appreciated and so this is you know that sort of a a shared um responsibility in all of this probably as sandy indicated would go a huge way because clearly we're all going to be very much impacted by this Peter in particular and um as far as goodwill and all of that goes it would be probably a worthwhile thing to discuss not in this particular meeting but but down the road but when we did that project is you remember dusty all of our pipelines were inch and a half and two inch above ground and they were constantly breaking and we were constantly up there the road was dirt uh the road finally washed down to where the all the piping was exposed and we went in there right right uh and we did i mean the dust that used to go onto your house was incredible um and we went in there and put all new larger main in and then we did a an overlay a complete overlay and it's changed that that whole road neighborhood a long time ago right a long but else has changed is that we're in there fixing the doubt the same pipe all the time yeah it's unfortunate some of that pipe there's been an issue with it um but you know i am concerned about what matt johnson brought up and someone sent us a picture i do believe of that section of road that shows the alligator ring and there may be an issue with our pipe there and you know that that's a no-brainer for us to check out and uh right look at that um further down the road you know because we are gonna do an overlay of the section of where our tanks are now up to the new tank site where we put in a new pipe and there's no doubt that an overlay it leaves the neighborhood you know and it's something we can talk about you know obviously i don't want to cry the blues but the district does not have a lot of money and with this fire we have been really you have a hundred percent of ours but we you know we can always talk okay good good um and one last one last quick thing and this regards our our good friend and very responsible and great neighbor peter um i think you we we should all uh agreed to let him decide what decibel level is appropriate and acceptable to him and then after this thing is all built and completed um you know whether it's 40 decibels or 35 or a jet engine you know it's it's got to be him that has to to decide what is what is appropriate and then it should be agreed that whatever mitigating issues have to be employed to get that decibel level to what is acceptable to him and to the immediate neighbors that he also has um i think that should also be considered you know i i totally agree with you one person's noise you know what they hear and another person i have other other projects dusty where things were out of my control i couldn't do anything about a transformer well we worked on the pump station but the pgne transformer i couldn't even hear it standing at the base of the pole but the lady who lived adjacent to that she heard it and you know there was a lot of issues back and forth and and and finally you know we couldn't do anything pgne wouldn't do anything with the transformer they said it was in their within their tolerances they came out but we can work on our pump station and i'm confident and i don't have any issue working uh with the with peter on the pump station itself because i know those pumps are very small and i know we can mitigate the noise there but i'm i'm hesitant to say i'll do whatever i have to do just in case some things are out of the the district but i will work right okay on the pump station and i do want to integrate to that as well as i mean the pumps run three or hours or less per day and so and you know and i understand that a decibel to one person you may not even hear and then the other people um you know we've had i've had people 10 miles away from a pump station that tracked the noise back to that pump station that they well i'm sure i'm i'm i'm rather certain that when i'm making margaritas with my blender i'm probably pissing off some neighbors so i get it you have that sounds no but we'll do what we can to to work with peter obviously you know he's impacted probably um he's right there um and he has you know concerns about retaining walls and so forth and you know we'll we can meet those concerns good all right well thanks everyone for the time appreciate it we're talking to you here likewise thank you okay so it does look like we have david lore again um we'll take david's question and then we might want to think about closing out the meeting and david if you could make it short we'd appreciate it this is your third or fourth time eyes are getting heavy yeah you're muted david david you're still muted if you're you're speaking i'm trying to hi there it's it's me sandy mass we're partners david lore and i so that's why we're tag teaming you so so the point is is dusty i raced his kid in high school in junior high and we're a tight community and we just love you guys but we really need you to like hear us hear us about um the fact that the infrastructure like my late husband jeff repave the road i know i'm repeating myself but i think they want to they need to hear it that we repave the road with the neighbors and i'm going around getting them to contribute repaving the road but until the infrastructure of the water system is tight they're questioning me so if i can say to them you guys are tight then i can get them to get on board with that piece even though i wanted you to do it yourselves so my point is is i think it would be really great if you guys could like now you'll show a presence up here because you're going to make the whole water tank thing happen which i'm grateful for but i also think you have to like think about your political capital you have to think about your political capital and dusty was part of that we're all a part of that and my honey is like telling me shut up but the point is is that you have to really like think about this is our community i've been here since 85 i love you guys i love the place and i want you to like be part of us and i i'm the first person to call an emergency line when something happens so i just want to say how much i appreciate you but i also want you to like take care of us take care of us we count on you and i paid 476 dollars on my water bill last month which was 76 dollars more than i charge per year for 44 lots up in the sierras so i'm just saying we're going to wrap this meeting up and let our consultants and obviously we will talk again all right all right thank you thank you all thank you everyone great everybody i we hope that you feel that you got you may not like some of the answers but hopefully you feel that you got your questions answered and again contact staff at any time you know if you didn't get your questions answered or you thought about one more thing or whatever please don't hesitate to contact that jennifer and amanda thank you both for sitting here for us thank you t t b thank you for hosting us carly all have a great night thank you guys