 So I'm Cheryl Chamberlain, Vice President Capgemini, and I am a CUBE alumni. Live from Santa Clara, California. Extracting the signal from the noise. It's theCUBE, covering Nextwork 2015. Brought to you by Juniper Networks. Now your host, John Furrier and Stu Miniman. Okay, welcome back, everyone. We are here live in Santa Clara in the shadows of Levi Stadium at Santa Clara Marriott for a special CUBE presentation of Juniper's Nextwork. It's a customer summit, their first summit. It's theCUBE. We go out to the events and extract the signal noise. I'm proud to be here with my co-student Miniman with wikibon.com as the analyst for infrastructure, networks, cloud, enterprise. And our next guest is Gideh Akintola, who's a Juniper ambassador, but he's with TMX Atrium, head of network engineering design. Welcome to theCUBE. Really appreciate that. Thanks for coming on. Thank you, John. So you are on the cutting edge of real-time. That is correct. Talk a little about what you guys do at TMX and how that fits into real-time trading information. Certainly data in motion is happening in your world. Share what you work on in the company and specifically your job. Okay, fantastic. Thanks a lot, Gideh Akintola, head of engineering, same exception. We actually subsidiary of Toronto Stock Exchange and we provide low latency connectivity for customers across the globe to most of the major stock exchanges, NISD, NASDAQ, CME, London Stock Exchange. And effectively, we're a transport provider, meaning just providing that connectivity for customers from their co-location or offices to the stock exchange and making sure that the market data we're calling back to the customer are delivered on time. And when I say on time, we're talking about micro nanoseconds as well as delivered intact reliably without any packet loss or effectively. Are these direct connections? So, COLO to exchange, or are they all direct connections? Yep, so we've got direct connectivity as an extranet provider to the exchange. So, I have a direct connectivity to NASDAQ, for instance, or NASI, Stock Exchange, and customer looking to get those market data connected to me. It could be at the same location or it could be elsewhere. I've got a backbone that's spanned the entire North America and Europe, so. It's like we live in an era of so much change and I'm old enough to now tell my kids, I remember before there was cell phones and then there were pagers. I remember when there was 15 minute delays on stock quotes which back seems like decades ago but that was only like 10 years ago. It's real time now. So, I want you to talk more about that nanosecond. Really, that is the threshold of pain you have. Talk about that latency challenge. What is the exact number again? And what has been the progression of a second, have a second and then take us through it. So, what's the number today and how fast has it shifted? Trading information is arbitraging all over the place. Exactly. People are concerned. You know, we started from seconds to milli, now we're talking nanoseconds. We do actually have an ultra low latency microwave infrastructure company actually called Strike Technologies which is also a subsidiary of Toronto Stock Exchange and it's all about giving customer choices now. So, depending on what latency you're looking for, we can give it to you. If you want the ultra low latency in milli seconds, nanoseconds, effectively nanoseconds great, we've got the microwave options and if you're looking at the micro, between micro and milli, we've got the fiber options. So, it depends on which, what the customers are looking for and it's all about giving customer choices at the end of the day. So, Jita, can you talk a little bit about how you got involved in the Juniper Ambassador program? You know, I love coming to events like this because you've got people that are building stuff and they're really excited. I mean, I was checking out your Twitter stream and there's people, the new MX chips have got me super excited. They're hashtagging, I love Trio. So, you know, you've got your day job and you've got your things you have to do but, you know, you're stepping up, you know, doing the Ambassador program. You know, what led you down this path and how do you benefit from it? Okay, fantastic. Thanks a lot, Stu. Being an ambassador is actually, to me personally, I think it's a privilege and an opportunity to work with people of like-minded that are actually passionate and committed to helping one another and the general public as a whole. I used to work for Juniper Networks. I did five years with Juniper Networks and the ambassador thing is something I've always, you know, look at as, you know, and I put it in the highest team and to actually be, you know, ad-oriented and, you know, being brought into the ambassador family. Like I said, it's a massive honor and privilege. And so, effectively, it's a family, it's a community and, you know, like-minded people, you know, that are passionate about helping people, you know, solve challenges and problems, you know. That's pretty much what we do. And I can't thank Juniper enough, you know, so you sat on both sides of the table when it comes to Juniper, can you talk a little bit about kind of the back and forth you have, you know, you have your customers. I mean, there's very few industries where you're like, you know, the smallest measurement can, you know, translate into significant dollars. I mean, I always say, you know, oil and gas and the trading, high-frequency trading is, you know, that microseconds or nanoseconds, you know, we can translate that into, you know, millions or more of dollars. So, you know, what kind of dialogue do you have? How's Juniper listening? Obviously, you've got a little bit of background there, but it gives a little bit of insight as to what it's like to be a Juniper customer and ambassador, you know, are they listening, you know? Thank you. It is actually fascinating because being on the inside and now on the outside, I'm able to provide an unbiased feedback to Juniper and the ambassador platform, you know, gives the platform effectively to be able to provide those feedback and Juniper does listen, you know? It's a two-way thing, you know? The dialogue is two-way between myself, you know. On the outside, you know, you can, effectively, I'm not bound by internet bureaucracies, ACU, effectively provided and unbiased feedback to Juniper and that's effectively what I'm doing. Gide, share with us a day in the life of your world and how that's changed over the years. Network engineering, I mean, those guys were the elite back in the old days. They ran the networks. We heard, you know, Jonathan from Juniper say, Wi-Fi is the number one thing people's Maslow's hierarchy of needs these days. Certainly the network is critical and it's always been the elite people but now you've seen the roles change. It's a lot more DevOps, you got critical infrastructure, you have real-time trading in your case. What is your, what do you use your day to day? Give us a share, some of the cutting-edge things that you're working on. You don't have to reveal any confidential information but, like, what are some of the things that are really core to your job right now? Uh, core to my job, I will say, if I've got to pick, it's got to be automation. Automation in the sense that, you know, within the industry, you know, we're working, you know, sometimes it could take, you know, weeks or month to deliver a service to customer and those customers, you know, looking to trade any days without a service, you know, that waiting is actually costing them a lot of money. So being able to, you know, automate- Is it the provisioning, the deployment, the execution? Exactly, exactly, you know. From a single plane, you know, it's crucial and critical to what I do. So my focus is on predominantly automation, automation of service delivery, automation of provisioning, automation of end-to-end, you know. So what do you think about the new 5,200 switches that they announced? Did you get a peek at them early? Just a first look at them. What's your take on the 5,200s? I believe it's an amazing product. The, you know, the aggregation, which I'm actually, you know, really passionate and fascinated with, I think it's a game changer. If you look back, you know, to 1996, when Juniper started with the separation of forwarding and control plane and fast-tracked that to, you know, eight, 10 years when other competitors started doing the same thing. And now we're talking about Juno's aggregation, you know. It's, Juniper is always at the forefront of technology. They make bold moves. They exactly. They do, don't they? And it's one of the reasons, you know, I love Juniper and I'm passionate about Juniper's products. The products. The disaggregation of Juno's is like bringing candy into the kids on Halloween. It's like, ah! Exactly, and then do whatever you want to do with it, you know, it's giving people, you know, the opportunity to, you know, take it to the next level effectively. I've always loved Juno's. I think they were holding that back. I mean, not because they weren't ready. I think SDN kind of just dropped and kind of hyped up the market. I mean, Stu, how long ago was Nacir as funding? I mean, then they got sold to VMware. The SDN really sucked the oxygen out of the room and Juno's is now being disaggregated. How do you reconcile that as a network engineer, the SDN trend and the Juno's thing? I think it's actually complimentary. SDN, at the end of the day, it is the way forward, actually, yeah. So there's no two way about it. SDN is the way forward. An ability to be able to orchestrate your network, you know, you know, are the egos, iView, it's crucial to me anyway. So you can effectively, you know, map out an end-to-end path with Junipa's North Star product, for instance. It is an amazing product set for an extra-net provider to all, just any company, as a matter of fact, to actually have because, you know, it allows you to orchestrate your network effectively. Reconciling SDN and the Juno's disaggregation. Effectively, what that gives you is, you know, with the disaggregation of Juno's, you know, it gives myself or my dev ops or, you know, an opportunity to actually, you know, like you said, it's like giving a candy to a child on an annoying night, you know, to do whatever they want to do with, you know. It energizes the developers. And the network developers are like more engaged. I got to ask you a final question on the event here. For the folks that are not here, you're an ambassador, you used to sharing data and insight to share folks watching that aren't here at the Juniper Customer Summit 2015. What's it like here? What's going on here? What are they sharing? Give us some color to the event here. The event has been amazing. It's, you know, being able to bring, you know, everybody under the same roof, you know, it's incredible, you know. The keynote from Rami was spot on, you know, very encompassing, you know. Jonathan, you know, he did an amazing speech as well. So for people watching, I believe it's been an amazing experience for me. It's been great networking, too. Be an access executives. Gide, thanks so much for sharing your insight and data here on theCUBE. Data is always in motion with theCUBE. We are, we are a network. We're pushing it out as fast as we can. Wire speed, social speed. We've got theCUBE gems. Go to Twitter and search hashtag cube gems. It's our new product. You can see all the highlights. Gide's highlight will be on the network right now before he even comes off theCUBE. We are siliconangle.tv. Check out crowdchat.net slash nxt work during the conversation. We'll be right back with more after this short break. Yeah, thanks, John. Thanks, too.