 When I'm dry working, my deal is pretty simple, I'm just working on my steering and brakes. I just want to make sure that there's no resistance, so that way I can cut a cow clean. It has nothing really to do with how they're moving or the function of the turn, it just has to do with me being able to walk up through there low-handed and cut a cow smooth. And I'll talk about that when I start flagging, I sort of like to practice, practice an impressive cut, make sure I can keep my hand low and drop without a lot of contact. I think the relationship with the horse, typically I work them pretty fresh. I'm just working them down and I think the overwhelming majority of us trainers all agree on the basics, go straight, stop straight, draw straight, turn with a lot of balance and commitment through the turn. I don't really like to say nose first because I don't really care if it's nose first, I just care if they feel committed. See, but right there, that's what I like about trying to build a touch more animation into him because if I do cut a dumb cow, I don't want to be out of the cutting. I want him to have enough expression that makes the judge lean forward just a touch and go, wait a minute, something good's coming here. By going to the flag before you move it puts them back in control in their minds instead of being a victim of when the flag goes, they have to react or respond. Basically it's the place that makes me feel the most comfortable, I mean if I'm defending something I'm not standing here like this, it's when if I'm defending something I'm ready more like this, I've got my weight transferred back, my attention on whatever I'm trying to defend and it's really the thought that sticks, like to me the best he felt is when I got off and that's how I'm trying to build that thought into him. Like I said, the boring part of the pattern is very important but the thought I'm trying to create or get him to stick or get to stick in his mind of why I quit is the thought when he was the most ready.