 Can you she hulk once again, asking us to comment upon it? So I say that I will she hulk epidemic that's spread onto you have they both the episodes you missed ranks both the shulks. Yeah, I have I found a way to just be a fluke of scheduling. I was not around for two e-faps, essentially almost back to back. Oh, my. And they were both she hulk episodes. And I still haven't met Nutsie yet because she was on both. Oh, really? Fuck, that's. Oh, that's hilarious. We have we have never met. Well, trying at least get her and J long gone back for whenever we cover the finale, I'll get lead. Oh, every episode feels like a finale. I'm definitely I'm definitely finished every every time I watch that show, which is crazy as well, because they're pretty short in a good way. They are, thank God, mercifully. They're only half an hour. It is merciful. Oh, my God. Can you imagine if these were an hour long? Yeah, can you imagine? I don't want to imagine that makes me feel bad. Painful, which we have a different show this hour per episode, though. Oh, yeah, but at least it doesn't make me angry. Like she hulk makes me just like angry. You make me sleepy. Yeah, yeah, at least. There are there are there are EFAB fans out there curated by rings of power. But yeah, I find you hulk annoys me more. Yeah, absolutely. The I think rings of power is it's certainly an offensive to me. It's just bad, right? It's like it's like good old classic bad where it's just written poorly and the characters are shit. But she hulk is like, fuck me. I hate all of you. I hate you. I want you to be I want you to have never been alive. I want you to disintegrate. Do you know what orium is? Oh, yeah, it's like it's a form of metal. Yes. Kind of. Yeah, it's this. It's one when you have a nuclear meltdown, it mixes in with the control rods and all the fission by products and nuclear fuel and just the structural material from the like the factory and the containment stuff around it. And it looks it's kind of like natural, like like it looks like lava, you know, and it's just this disgusting, horrific, radioactive, nasty. Yeah, it's it's just so unpleasant, so very unpleasant. And she hulk is what is like choreo. Oh, yeah. Right. Whenever, whenever anything is involved with it, it's just worse. It gets it gets tainted by this, this radioactive kind of this sickness, any character that's a part of it and all the discussion around it. It's just it's choreo the show. Well, that's a good intro. There you go. Yeah, I like Max's officially shed his feelings on she hulk. I love it. I think it's great. I thought it was pretty good. Really enjoying myself watching it. And I agree. What could be worse than dating in your 30s? Because I can think of nothing that could be worse than that. Am I right, ladies? I wish to address. Everyone is like, EFAP Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday. It is indeed a Wednesday, because the fact that we're having you have live. I wouldn't want people to think it is actually a Saturday. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Some people schedule that they structure their lives based around I don't even blame them. I just want to reassure them you have not been tricked. Like some people are there like, oh, fuck, it's Friday, Saturday or Saturday. You're like, oh, God, no, no, no, it is not your safe. And then you guys you got yourselves an extra EFAP episode because we're in we're in the we're in the TV show. The end game now. This is of EFAP, where it's pretty much just back to back episodes about TV shows coming up. You don't receive enough video to remain maintain smooth streaming. Oh, no. Oh, thank God. Looks fine on my end, I think the interwebs dying. I mean, because luckily, whatever this means, it'll be fine on the reupload because that's local. But something seems to be going on, unless you're lying to me. Let me reload the boy. I mean, it looks fine on my end. Ed is a moment there. I'll have a have an eye out and see if everything explodes. I like the thumbnail. It is very appropriate. It is really appropriate. Also, yeah, I know Gary's also streaming. I'm sorry. This is this is our secondary slot for EFAP. I'm afraid, you know, it's difficult to get everybody available. We take it has been since time immemorial. I never apologize when I stream when he always does. Every time I come to our DMs afterwards. And I said, I never I never apologize when I'm streaming when you guys are streaming. I'm saying you do always and you give me a bouquet of flowers. No, I'm trying to be cool. Shut up. I'm sorry, I'm taking away one viewer from you. Very rude. It was very rude and I'm not. I'm not sorry. I'm lying every time I do it. But yes, we go as as you guys know, we're just, you know, updates as we go through. The Hulk is like halfway through kind of right now. We are on the edge of the precipice of halfway through. Wouldn't you say? That's a line of dialogue. It is indeed. We got loads of those as well as loads of like sort of offshoot topics. I'm already looking forward to talking about this show. I'm ready. Let's do it. It kind of reminds me of Falcon the Winter Soldier show in that it's it nibbles a wider willed building problem without it wants a little bit of it, but it doesn't want all of it. And you're like, you have to take all of it. You can't just take a little bit. Yeah, that is definitely a huge issue. Episode four, I mean, all of them, but four was just making me go. The world building is just absolutely fucked. Oh, yes, absolutely fucked. This is I actually watched the episode four right before we started. I was watching it with a couple of friends in another chat. And we all hated it. We all hated it. We all hated it. Unanimous. Um, yeah. So, so, so, you know, you're getting your shulk coverage. This is the manner in which your shulk coverage will happen. This is two, three, four. So next, you know, four. Wow, what a value. All right, so there's five episodes left. You'll probably split that into three and two. Probably. I don't know if it'll be two, then three, then two, but hey, we'll figure it out. This Saturday will be two more rings of power, which keeps us fully up to date then, except for one shulk episode. And so the following week, I think we'll have an eFab that's not about the TV shows. And then we'll have to do loads of catching up on the TV shows again. And then Andor will be like, hey, guys, remember me and we're like, oh, no. Oh, no, actually, like, no, I don't remember you. And by the way, between all that, I'll be reviewing House of the Dragon every Sunday with Gary. Hey, that's all four of them. And then as soon as all four shows end at the end of the TV show arc, because I doubt this will happen again, right? That they release four at the same time that I'm interested. I think they they all says like we're going to stop like forever. Yeah, they said it's enough TV. That's nicer than that. There's so much TV we don't need anymore. We're kind of like a TV show ourselves. Yes, we have episodes and an arc, a cinematic universe. And we're, yeah, yeah, we're kind of like that. Is there anything with mentioning in terms of because I saw some people saying the God of War trailer. Yes, it was a cool trailer. I look forward to watching the playing the video game when it comes out. Oh, I mean, I'm already playing it. So there you go. Legend of Zelda, hey, that's swell. It's coming out. And well, yeah, like eight months, but it's got a date. That's nice. Fringy, what's the name of the new Legend of Zelda game going to be? Tears of the Kingdom Kingdom. Oh, I think we know why they decided to postpone the announcement of the Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. Everybody is wondering. Yeah, that is that is that's unfortunate. And also Pikmin 4, which I haven't played Pikmin, but I hear that it's a really neat little series. I played Pikmin 2. I liked it. I played Pikmin 1 on stream to completion. I think that's the thing that happened. Did you? Well, yeah, we're doing catch up. Yeah. Well, that's not real streams that I'm going. Oh my God. Outrageous, rude and fear. All right, then. About the season 25 episodes or 50 episodes. You've had seasons of 25 or 50 episodes. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah, 50 episodes. Like 50 hours per season. Someone might think that's the case. You know, I would blame them, right? That's a common misunderstanding for seasons of television. Anyway, you guys want to talk about Shulk Episode One? No, I already did. So I really want. Episode One. Yeah, that's what I asked the question. It was a trick question. I was going to see if anyone pulled caught up on it. Well, answered correctly. I did. But yeah, but that's the answer for all the episodes. I was going to say, I figured that was the meme. And I was like, no, no, we did discuss Episode One. Now, you're not going to believe me, but the time code is indeed 0001 because I hit the file and then hit pause ready for us to cover it. This is the image. OK, this was not me that chose this. OK, it was Disney. I didn't do that. All right, I was I was just. Oh, no. She not. Does she not blink like this? Because I feel like my eyelids. Well, only on one side of the family, maybe she's winking and looking up. Well, that here for for us in a discord to look at as we please. Oh, right. That's nice. So yeah, I guess. So for those who have been following along on this wonderful adventure, Episode One, we did cover the events of quite painful. But for those who didn't that for whatever reason, it basically just says she's got Hulk powers now because Bruce's blood got in her blood. That's about all you literally need to know for episodes two, three and four. Well, she's better than Hulk and Hulk sucks. And I mean, kind of men, really, they kind of suck. If especially if they're interested in women cringe. Is actually something that happens in Episode Three or Four that I'm really interesting in that in the category of criticism. The show or the rather the indication of what this show seems to think on subjects like dating, for example, like you alluded to part of it earlier, but I was thinking of a different element of it. Fascinating. Oh, this is like this is like Batwoman adjacent show. Yeah, this is as close as the MCU has gone to Batwoman, if not. Yeah, yeah, it could fit right in. Because I was about to say, I think, yeah, the like the CGI excluding she is about that woman. I was about to say it's the animations on She-Hulk that are pretty bad. Her suit, like when she's in her when she's in decently lit areas wearing her outfit, it looks really bad. It's just very evident that she's not there. Like a way that really calls a lot of attention to that. Whereas I don't know that anybody really felt that way when watching like Thanos walk around or rocket and people can point out like, oh, well, they're less human like. So it's easy to buy in. So it's like, sure, all you've done is explain why there's a response that's not positive, though. It doesn't change anything. It's just had a great. He just had a ball chin. That was it. But he was he was pretty human. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he is really human. Some guys out there that have like, you know. Yeah, my my my owner, he has a he has an intense cleft chin. It is magnificent and some Squidward. Who? I'll forget how point being as as we were as I was watching this fourth episode a moment ago with friends, one of them had said they should have just painted someone and like, yeah, they should they should have just gotten a really big lady and given her the green makeup a bit, maybe maybe a wig or whatever. If you need her to have that. And that would have been more convincing to me that that already have a big lady. She's in the she's in the VR suit thingy or motion track suit. Oh, really? I'm going to ask about that. Why are the movements so like it when I thought it was based on someone in a VR thing? Maybe you get the right. Imagine. I think I think the problem is always going to be that like your actress is not like she's just not the same proportions as the character. So like, it's not going to map exactly. No, no, no, they have someone they have someone else for the motion track suit as far as I know. No, it's Tatiana Messlani. She plays in like the she does the motion capture as well. They had someone they had someone for reference. Oh, OK, that's what I was thinking of. OK, I got you and they have her on the couch as well, right? To address the height issues. Sometimes, I imagine. But I don't know how they accounted for it all the time. I can imagine that it wasn't accounted for well. In certain scenarios, because, yeah, it's just the animation. It always seems to be the animation that betrays the visual effects like floaty. Just you don't seem to be in the place that you're in. You're just not moving naturally. Yeah, you're not. It's a little of a video gamey thing where they they're moving at a speed that doesn't seem right with the motion of their legs. Well, I guess the thing is, though, is I feel like like a lot of video games just like. I think video games are obviously like not approaching the level of photo realism that can be achieved with visual effects and films like pretty obviously yet at the same time, you can present somebody like a PlayStation five game and it looks really good. And the reason why it looks really good is because it's like cohesive, I think everything is is digital. So nothing stands out. Yeah, exactly. So we can look at, you know, God of War Ragnarok and it's like, would just the fidelity match like a film or a television show? No, of course not. And yet it looks better than what we see here, because it's a cohesive visual. And plus, like, if it's all a video game, you can get away more so with like, I guess, less realistic animations that are like more bouncy or or exaggerated, whereas when it's real life, it's like, yeah, you're going to be struggling to like to move past that. It was probably like just conceptually a bad idea. You didn't have the money or the time to achieve what you needed to achieve for a television show. It was probably, yeah, probably doing from the start in terms of being a good fact. So as the show is aware of the cameos are helping it out. Absolutely. Waging. I love seeing all these characters. Yeah, the cameos are helping out. But at the same time, you need to be reminded who's man, are you talking about Twitter? Sheldon, I'm that's for combo that with with the other comment. Like the show is a way that having a cameos in it will make it so that it can distract people from the shittiness. Yeah, but at the same time, they're kind of insecure about the recognition that a lot of people are in it to see who's going to show up. So then they had to say, remember who's show it is. It's like, I don't know if that's I've seen people say that's funny or like cool, but to me, it just comes across as very like defensive. Like, oh, it's super, super like the word like embarrassing, I guess, is the one just it's all it's it's lampshade adjacent. Um, it's almost like meta lampshading. I'm pretty sure it's in this episode that there's the biggest example of it out of the three actually defensive writing. Oh, you talk about the story thing because that was that was really. No, that's that's that's just like self aggrandizing. I guess I'm talking about like writing you put in there because you are worried about what people will think like you'll that you're very insecure about it. But yeah, well, you know, we'll get to all these things. I guess we'll start out, you know, it says we finally got a little bit more information on titanium, the person who attacked the jury in the first episode says she caused panic while fleeing traffic court. So she did, she certainly did that. Yeah, she did cause panic. That is true. We're going to get a bit more of her in episode five from what we're seeing and possibly more goes on. But for now, all we know in totality is he left traffic court, burst through a wall and then through a desk at a bunch of jurors for no reason at all. Yes, which is the typical reaction to giving a trend. Yes, something changed, obviously, because that fight was so poorly edited, there was definitely more footage that they didn't use. And maybe there was a whole explanation for that fight. Yeah, maybe there was a dialogue, you know, to be what maybe we were maybe we were just like, that's we should just accept this blessing that they removed a dialogue from this show. It would be a blessing. Yeah. She's also apparently a super influencer apparently. Yeah, she's referred to as a super powered influencer, which is like and is there a yeah, like that's not really she's she's super super strong for reasons unknown and that is known to the public. Yeah, we're we're we're we're going to get world-building training. We it seems now we don't have to earn our special individuals in terms of like origins or whatever, even a broad statement is just like there's just there's just people around who are just it's like super soldiers. You know, we know we need a new law division for that because there's so many of them. I want to give some credit because I think it was on a real BBC episode that I was said like, yeah, super soldiers everywhere as a falcon and soldiers like even in falcon and soldiers, they gave you an origin. Yeah, I guess they made something up. Yeah. So like that guy, he this guy, you've never heard. Well, which is which is what I'm referring to when I say like at least a broad sort of like this is why. But in this show, they're just like they're just popping up just around Titania. She's she's a super and she wasn't even hidden the whole time she's a super influencer. So there you don't hit women, do you? And as soon as we get Black Panther 2, we're going to get Atlantis and a whole another civilization on earth on top of everything. Yeah. That's not going to make things even more complicated and terrible. No, it's fine. Honestly, in terms of repairs, the show that I might want to avoid the most would be the law one thinking about it because like there's no way how am I supposed to make sense of all of this? Well, they they won't. So they already said they don't even know how normal law works. So we're very apparent. Oh, yeah, someone who does not know how the law works. I can tell. Episode four is the worst one for that, I think out of all of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, they're just announcing this. Like, yeah, the jury are calling the green woman a hero who saved lives. And it's just I thought a line was funny. So it's like she is, you know what I mean? Like that's what they're calling her. And it's like she is what's what's what's what she did. But yeah, it's good to provide us with that, I guess. Yeah, so she's, you know, after all that, she went to the bar and everyone's chanting she Hulk before she walks in and her friend who I if I was to like make a video break out of this, I'd be like theorizing that her friend is literally fucking Mephisto at this point. Every single thing that comes out of her friend has nothing to do with the well-being of her. It's all to do with like cheap thrills or superficial wants and desires. And it's just that she's always a bad influence. He's like, oh, no, I don't want to go in there. I don't want to have to be she Hulk. And she's just like, give them what they want. Some guy'll like give us free drinks. Like, and that happens. She says like, you're a superhero. I got free drinks. This is great. That's funny, though. Well, we we're going to be bumping into this a lot during the show that it's kind of like Thor Love and Thunder where comedy comes first and damn everything else. A little bit. A little bit. It's going to be interesting if they want to have more serious moments in the show. Because. God, can you imagine? Great. No. So, yeah, she she has a drink and she's listening to more people say she Hulk. And she's like, I can't even exist without being a derivative of Hulk. So what you're saying is that she does not like the name she Hulk, which. I mean, fine. Yeah, that's totally fine. I totally understand. I get it. You know, the beginning of a persistent running gag, which is isn't she Hulk a stupid name? Like, this is the beginning of many, many, many jokes about it. It's become more than a pattern at this point. What is with the MCU and making fun of the names? Name. Yeah. They do a lot of this point instead of embracing it. They're just like, well, it's very funny. No, they'll happily make money off of them while making fun of them. It's because it is very strange. If they want to go to the angle of like, well, imagine these these names in real life, you wouldn't take them seriously. And it's like, look how absurd your fucking world is. What do you mean? I would take it seriously if you did. Yeah, you don't take anything else seriously. Yeah, because right after that, Nicky, Nicky just straight up says, well, Hunk is a hunk. Hunk is like, we got later in the show. But yeah, yeah. But yeah, she just was like, well, Hulk is a dumb name anyway, or as well or something. Yeah, so I mean, so we have now got it so that they've said Dr. Octopus is dumb. Hulk is dumb. She Hulk is dumb. What was the one from? I think that's pretty dumb. Yeah, I think I was well, I think Flag Smash has got made fun of too. Yeah, it's it's not it's not just the pattern of like, why are you making fun of all these names when they're the ones you're adapting? But also just is that really the best you got for comedy? Just go, well, that's a funny name. Yeah, that is hilarious. It's like barely a joke. Like in terms of just structure or anything. Oh, yeah, I just thought it was lame. And the whole like being a derivative of Hulk. It's like, I mean, does that not technically is that not technically the literal truth? You're you've got his blood and. Yeah, exactly. So your existence as a superhero. These people only know one other person that can turn into a green big monster thingy. I've been around for 15 years. 15 years, half like, oh, female Hulk, she Hulk. Like, oh, yeah, I see. Well, yeah, you can't blame him for doing that name. And she doesn't make any effort to push her own preferred name. She goes, yeah, I hate the name, but I'll use it. It's like, OK, then it's like Marvel. Then things again, again, a little weird because every time they bring in the sexist character, you always like sort of face palm because you're like, oh, which one? Like, well, the main one, the guy who's so over. It's it's Dennis. They didn't even try. So he's like, why? Why like what you did was fucking ass holy, bringing out the Hulk for publicity in that thing. And it's like, oh, so he's that dense as a character that he'll like accuser of having done it for publicity when she like save people's lives like, yeah, great, cool. And then she says, only you would think that. And then he's like, how did you get these powers? Like, I don't want to talk about it. There's nepotism, which I was like, oh, yeah, kind of, maybe it wouldn't have happened if you were family. But I mean, the thing is, obviously, anybody would take the exchange on this planet that she got like we went over the last time and covered this. Scott, she's got a gift, pretty much a strict gift. She's got a gift in the same way as Syphilis is a gift. What do you mean? No, what are you talking about? Like, it's a categorical upgrade. There's nothing wrong with it. No, I mean, like in other aspects of who she is. No, I don't think you did. I think you I think you've made an error. No, I know, obviously. No, I what's interesting is that literally I in episode four with my friends as I was watching this where we're going to get there. I was saying, why does she not want to be Hulk? Because Hulk is just a complete and total upgrade in every way to being her. Why does she seem to have so much? Like, why does she not want to be that like all the time? You know, I don't think they really explore that much. That's the arc. That's that's what they want to do is the arc for the show. It's become pretty evident. He's decided is going to be her embracing the She-Hulk identity. You decided early on that there's like a barrier between Jen Walters and She-Hulk and that doesn't want to. Yes, which is weird because there isn't a barrier between them. And that's something that like Bannon struggled, Banner, sorry, struggled with so much. It isn't just so weird. I don't even know how to categorize how weird it is that they're trying to create a wall between them. When I felt like the whole point was there wasn't. Well, maybe that's the point that they're going for, right? When she realizes. Yeah, that might be. But the barrier I'm referring to sort of is is her being like, I don't know if they're going to go this way directly, but just like, you know, I want to do things on my terms, Jen Walters terms, not She-Hulks. But then we've already seen several instances over these next few episodes where she's using She-Hulks. We're advantaged. Unclear of if the show is going to call out her hypocrisy on that. We'll see. I don't think the show recognized. I think the show considers that as her more and more starting to embrace it rather than like a character flaw. Well, I think the whole fourth wall breaking, which says I'm not proud of this is probably all they're going to do. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all we get. I would just go as far as saying when we go over a couple of things she says of these episodes, it feels like the show trying to make a point about certain things, but then Jen does it herself, it frustrates. Yeah, like, isn't it terrible that people swipe left or right? And like, yeah, you both do that. Both of you in this conversation do that. But yeah, so the last thing he says to her is, oh, there's a hot chick over there. I'm going to go talk to it. What is this? Yes, it's always been this hilarious thing of just like, you know, I like, Texas, don't talk like that. Come on, you must have one. Every man is a sexist, though. Even still, I've known plenty of woman eyes as I and plenty of wonderful men, OK, but none of them have ever heard who woman is it, like, just go woman, the object. I've seen people I've referred to as it, but they're very special. You see them, you know, there are some people out there. They're a boy, often in prison. This is the thing, I know someone who found that line really funny. And I asked them why and they said because it's so absurd that anyone would ever do that. And they thought that there's a chance the show was going for that. And I was like, I really don't think so. I think they're trying to go for he's a sexist. Big ol' rage. You mentioned it earlier. People don't know how to write bigotry anymore. I think so. I think that he's a clown character. He's not actually like interesting in any way. And he's the punching bag in the season comes up a couple of times just to be like, yeah, that's his job. Well, then a friend is like, oh, my God, be a superhero. And then she's like, I've not racked up student debt while nailing my degrees, just become a vigilante. That is for billionaires and narcissists and adult orphans. Yeah, for some reason. Weird that she's shitting on people when in universe, they've saved like near countless lives about as close to count. Yeah, you can get after end game. I mean, I suppose after multiverse of madness and infinite amount of lives, maybe she doesn't know about that. But maybe she doesn't know about the episode four. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah, you could show just a lot. You could you could not be a bitch for two seconds and show a modicum of tiny, tiny, little itty bitty little amount of reverence to the people who lost a great deal. I know they probably weren't cap called once by a construction site, but they they did maybe have some things that they had to deal with. You know, the sacrifices were made. Well, it felt especially weird since she's directly related to the guy who brought back trillions of lives. Personally, yeah, I could personally brought back trillions of people at some. It feels weird. They do suck. They do suck a great deal. She also doesn't want to be in the Avengers because she doesn't know if they have health care or pension. Well, we'll get. Well, so before we get into that, I was going to say these lines right after these. Yeah, I'm not done with what we just said. So these lines that she says, including the one in episode one where she mentioned the whole government secret government squad thing, like we talked about it then talk about it now. I don't know why she doesn't know more about this. Why doesn't she? Why wouldn't she have looked into this? She's a lawyer. Like wouldn't she want to be really up on the up and up to how this all works when her brother is one of the most famous superheroes ever? So it's the worldbuilding problems in this where it's just it's so it's it's ridiculously and absurdly compartmentalized where you could just it's like you could just you like you're at a buffet, a worldbuilding buffet, and you just go to the buffet, go down the line. I want this. Oh, no, we're not going to do scobey accords. I do want this, though, we're spanned. We want him and we want this. But we want the book of Ashanti. We got to reference that. Yep. Yep. And everything else just stays the worldbuilding buffet. We're going to go to introduce her as like one of Bruce gets in some form of trouble or is pulled about. Some legal trouble you may end up in. And then she's that's how she we first meet her is that he's you know, she's the talented lawyer in the in the family. And she's very hyper aware of all the ways that, you know, and you get through a confidently executed case. All of the context for how a lot of these things go. But instead, he's a mighty hero, but there's something he needs help with, and that's I can help them with. Scientists, you know, and it sucks because, like, instead, we have her randomly sort of alluding to how she has no clue how any of the thing was that we said before, she refers to him as a government squad, which wasn't the case at least up until he was part of it. Yeah. So it doesn't make sense to refer to him that way. But we never really got comfortable. Like, sure, after you get the accords and then it's like, so they split half and half. So it's weird for her to refer to the Avengers as the government squad, unless she's that's what it was until infinity war. And they weren't secret. Yeah. But then, like, you have, you know, Falcon does contract work. Weston Mark, I think Falcon went to soldier had him doing that, but he wasn't paid for it or something. Remember, like, it's the world building buffet. Yeah, it's hard for me to figure out what the hell is going on with any of it. I don't know. I know I had I turned factorial off like how the tablets go to worry about. They they they're the behind in the stream when the factorial music was playing, which was not music. But when you comment on it, the music goes away. So there you go, Chad. That's what you get. That's like, but that's a lot of hallucinations, though. Once you start commenting on it, it goes away. True. So, yeah, this is all very frustrating to hear. But then saying specifically that it's for narcissists. And I don't even know why. Why mention adult orphans? I guess because it's funny. I don't know. Because it's self like, funny comedy. So funny orphans. That's kind of a jerk thing to it is a jerk thing to say. Yeah. Yeah. Especially because it's because it's metahumor. I don't know if that's what you think about it says about it. She very likely is like like referring to a lot of them, including like I was just thinking the Peter Parker of the MCU universe who had lost his mom, his dad, and then his surrogate father and uncle Ben and mother. And then again, his father figure in Tony. Like he's lost five technically paired to guardians like Tony. I mean, geez, and some of them will get directly related to a superhero in Davos. So yeah, I don't know, but all right. Fine, fine, Jen, you put up wonderful. But yeah, what she then says is do they even get health care, maternity leave or a pension? Do they even get paid? Which which as we now learn in in Falcon and Winter Soldier, the answer is no, there was no pension for the Avengers set up. But I wonder if they're even aware of that as a reference, because yeah, doesn't he ask straight up and then he says no, so it doesn't work that way. Or something like that was Falcon. The people who saved the world or we want to tell we didn't so we can't have it. You could go to the McDonald's and flip burgers for a minimum wage, but saving the universe. I mean, that's not like paying work. You know, it's not it's not like a productive. You end up with the boys. If you don't pay them via like government stipends all through Tony's you just get the boys where they go for promotional shit. Even birthday parties. I'm not even kidding. Yeah, yeah. I heard there was a party. I mean, it's probably which the birthday party when Tony saves the entire universe and Hulk. And then you're just one of the guys like Ant-Man, Falcon or even Rocker Raccoon. You you were fighting alongside people who want to interview the fuck out of you for the fact that you worked with them alone, not even for what you did. Just just to be like, tell me about Tony Stark. What did he say? What did he do? Well, you know, everything you'd be like, oh, man, he was so great. You can they do it in the boys. Like that is what I mean, just it's just no no attempt to try and be realistic. And I don't even think the boys does a good job. So, you know, eh. Tony did pay for Hulk's facility, though. It's true. That's true. Yeah, never. However, you you cannot even get a loan if you're in the adventure. No, no, because clearly favoritism. No, because he got blips, right? Even though the hyper I don't want to get into it. That fucking show is with. Mm hmm. Oh, she got some bad news. I know, unfortunately. Oh, my goodness, DA's office going. Well, it lets her know the case has been thrown out due to a mistrial. Yep, which I guess she didn't know about because I guess she wasn't there when that happens. Right. Yeah. So we'll have to take this in super slow motion. OK, so. Oh, yeah. Before he even talks to her about anything. If we had talked about what would happen as a result of what Titania did, probably mistrial. Yeah, because probably everything's been compromised, like in terms of the court case. So it's just like that makes some sense. Yes. OK, so that's not going to be a shock. And Jen should know that as a lawyer. She should probably have clued into the facts. Well, I'm not saying it for that reason. I'm saying that in concept alone, she should be like, so there's probably going to be a mistrial. She's convinced the case is one, not a mistrial. So these things are very important, because someone should just make a video about how much of an awful lawyer she is. Even episode four, it is remarkable. Yeah, it's kind of incredible. It's insane. There's so many references for how poorly she understands the situation or how poorly she argues cases and prepares the witnesses and well as well as their information. We'll get to all the examples, but just flagging them up as we go. But yeah, so he comes in to say that there's a mistrial and she's like, what? And it's just like, yeah, you should probably have figured that out. But again, as Ringo just mentioned, that's something that gets like officially done with all the participants of the actual case involved when it's like determined. Yeah, people argue for it and people will argue against it, you know? Like, if you want to keep it, you're meant to be there. Like, why would you not be there? That was bizarre. And then he says it's your fault that we got the mistrial, which is weird. That's one way to phrase it. Not how I would phrase it. Yeah, it's like, because of course, if she wasn't there, tape would have been thrown at the whole jury and killed them. So I think that would have ended the case. The thing I think, yeah, yeah, that would have. Jumping in to save lives was, I think that was the correct decision. Well, this is why we got to zoom in and go so slow because there's so many problems all at once, several between each line. Like, it's a mistrial regardless of her actions, but I don't even know why. Yeah, like the fact that she, and like to blame her because I think the argument that was later presented by the other lawyer guy was, would you save them so that made them prejudiced in favor of you? Yeah. It's like, I guess that's one of many factors. Yeah, I suppose that is a vibrato to me saying this trial. But like, that's not her fault. That's stupid. Yeah, it could be fair, it could be fair. They clarify that. She said, are you suggesting I shouldn't have saved them? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, you did the right thing, but you're fired. But you've got several negative consequences. To me, it really does feel like the writers are like, see, she didn't make a mistake and she still gets shafted by the system. Oh, it's so hard being a woman as lawyer. Again, like, we've got to back it up a bit. So she is at the district attorney's office. She's publicly saved many lives and now she's being fired. And you fire her. Yeah, good job. Like, that's the end of your career. Like that. Yeah, your office is tainted forever. Yeah, exactly. Like you are. This is not happening. Can she sue him for that? A PR disaster. Probably. What? She'd get a shit ton of public support. Probably. Absolutely. The worst thing that you could do is fire her. The worst thing you could possibly do. It's a double whammy, right? Because on one hand, it's just bad for you in terms of what the response is going to be. She could sue you. You'll get a public outcry. You'll probably lose votes in your next election. The double whammy, though, the aspect is like, you don't understand, you're letting go of a huge asset. She's going to be the world's most famous lawyer. She is a superhero hulk lawyer. You literally saved your jury in the middle of a case. The subsequent scene basically says that because she's actually like going to very much struggle to get a job, which is absurd. That is absurd. This is hard to follow. It's like, you can't get, you're in the Avengers, but you don't have money and you can't get a loan. Lawyers can really rack up like a cult of personality. There's plenty of famous lawyers people are aware of, and they get hired there in high profile cases. In universe, Jennifer Walters is considered a good lawyer. Now, of course, everything that she does would indicate otherwise, but in universe, she is recognized as a good lawyer because later on in the episode, when she gets hired by the new law firm who were opposite her in the case that got destroyed, he says that she put up a winning case, which is hard to do against this firm. So like in universe, she's recognized as being talented, which that matters a lot. Being good at your job, especially as a lawyer is important. So like the fact that she wouldn't be able to get work when she's not only apparently a pretty competent lawyer, according to the show, and she's got this other aspect to her, and she's got a good public reception because she saved lives. She's getting hired straight away. She's getting swarmed with telephone calls. Absolutely. She's getting swarmed. Before she would have been fired. Even if she would be a shitty lawyer in universe, they would still hire her just for the image alone. Yeah, before she was even fired, she'd be getting offers, absolutely. Oh yeah. She wouldn't have been fired. Some people are highlighting already. It's like, that loss doesn't count for anything. She gets a way better job immediately. And it's just like, oh yeah, so to clarify, like this sort of comes across as a very truncated, like how awful the repercussions of living the life as a superhero. Oh no. Yeah. Anyway, everything worked out fine. It's like, wait, what? Yeah. Before the episodes, and she gets a better, higher paying job. It's like Ray, when she's on the Millennium Falcon and she makes that little mistake with when she's fiddling with the wires or whatever. And it just so happens to like close the door at the right. Oh yeah. No, yeah, it's where she technically messes up with, she was like fiddling with wires or something on the Millennium Falcon and it like closes or opens a door that allows Han Solo to, you know what I'm talking about? Oh, what are you talking about? I think it was when you had the Blargle monsters. And in the Force Awakens, and she inadvertently threw a mistake, either like opens or closes a door that helps to save, yeah, something like that. No, she does that on purpose. She gets to a terminal and accesses it and then I'm just closing a door to cut the legs off the... God damn it. Raftars. Sorry, I know that goes back to back for reasons, okay? It was almost like that. I know you're talking about in terms of concept, but yeah, she... Yeah, yeah. The funny thing is, no, she was so talented, she knew exactly how to use the console. I was like, oh no, actually. I suppose that's better than accidentally doing it all perfectly. I don't even know, whatever. So, yeah, it's incredibly annoying to watch and it kind of makes you start to theorize. You're like, ooh, was... Because they moved episode eight to episode one, at least the Hulk's portion of it, gotta wonder was it like, it was that opening with another couple of scenes on top for just setting up the... In episode one now, setting up here as a lawyer, then the titanium scene, then aftermath of that and then her losing the job and maybe the episode ended originally, episode one with like a job offer and it was like... I think, well, so I get the impression that episode two, along with parts of episode one was meant to be episode one. That this was meant to be the pilot or at least a huge part of it, but then because they changed their mind, like it just messed every... Cause this is the episode that like establishes really the plot, I guess, like the actual, you know, formula that the show is gonna use. But, yeah, for now it's really... That's very mean about the theorizing. That's where I meant about removing the Hulk portions of episode one, keeping everything that's not that. So it's that Ray tries to close the doors on the gangs and releases the Rath Tars. Oh, you're talking about that. I thought you meant when she saved Finn. That, are you talking about how she... So, yeah, she intends to help. Her supposed failure. Yeah, then she fails and over to the Rath Tars. The universe turns into a success. Which does then, yeah, result in good stuff for the team. Task failed successfully. Yeah, that's, yeah, correct, correct. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you meant when the Rath Tars legs got cut off. You see, Shat, it wasn't a Brandon moment. Yeah. I'm very sharp in my agedness. Listen, I know what it's like to date in your 30s. Is there anything worse than that? Uh-uh. No, I say. I say no. Ne, Ne, I say. Ne, what are you, a horse now? Did anyone notice what was on a little iPad-y thing when she was looking at... She was looking at a Swedish village mascot. I guess because they thought that was hilarious as a potential job. Was it like jobs for re-failed something? I forgot. I know what you mean, I think. Oh, jobs for a fresh start was the more interesting part. I got it on the screen is related articles, man fights with metal claws in Barbara. Oh, damn one. Like, is that seriously a reference to Wolverine in fucking She-Hulk? Hard to say. And then underneath that. I mean, that's not a, that's something. That's a reference. Hop it, sit down. Look, it says, it says find Ant-Man at the top. Oh, there's a QR code. I'm gonna scan that and see what happens. Oh, yeah, yeah, do that. Yeah, scan the QR code, Metal. We can get the... It takes you straight to the Amazon page for Bad Feminist. I don't want Wolverine coming up in the show, okay? Nor do I want him in the MCU. That's my, that's my scared with that, okay? But secondly, it says, why is there a giant statue of a man sticking out of the ocean? That's not, is that like the first story of the Benettonos to acknowledge that there was a giant celestial just like sticking out of the planet. That alongside... As someone who has not seen Eternals, seeing that scene was like, wait, wait, wait, we need to clarify. This is just in the ocean? Oh man, it doesn't want to scan. Real big too. Real big. Well, he's the size of the planet. He should, well, he was a lot smaller than he's supposed to be as well, right? I think definitely if we're talking scaling, yeah, his head should be like the size of China. Yeah, the point in which he has managed to breach the fucking crust, it's over for Earth. That should be the way that they show us the working is. Yeah, whole planets, like there's a giant being in the planet. It's moving around and like causing massive global cataclysmic earthquakes. Yeah, that's got to fuck around with like the atmosphere and the... How large was the comet that, not the comet, the asteroid that the dinosaurs? How big was that? Like six or seven kilometers long? Or am I, there's something like that, right? The asteroid is 12 kilometers in diameter, about seven and a half miles. So like, man, think about how much damage that did when it hit the planet. Now imagine a much, much, much, much, much, much larger object coming from within, like emerging from the planet. It does things, yeah. No, it doesn't. It just... It does things. And so I think this alongside with a bunch of other references show the writers of this one, more so than any of the others are so hyper aware of what's talked about in terms of these films. Absolutely, yeah. And I think they think it's cruise control for clever if you have references to meta things. Like that. Yeah, because there's nothing clever about it. It's just a reference. Yeah, because if you took this to... Was it Chloe Zhao made, Eternals? Yes. You'd be like, that's not the point of my movie. You're like, right. Oh, but it's in your movie. No, I know. That's kind of what I'm getting at. Those kinds of criticisms don't matter to the directors that make them because they're just like, that's not what moviemaking's for. And you're like, okie dokie. All right. But then you have the other movies like acknowledge that as a thing. And it's like, oh, that's awkward. Yeah, in a sense, make fun of it. What's being done about it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, that's all the movies about. I finally was able to scan that QR code. Yeah. What'd you get, Metal? I'm so excited. I sent me to Marvel.com to a She-Hulk thingy. Read a free She-Hulk comic book that I'd buy at the series, streaming exclusively on Disney Plus. Check back as we provide more exclusive She-Hulk comic books presented by Marvel Unlimited. Very cool. Now I can start a free trial and I get to read Avengers West Coast, apparently. West Coast Avengers. There you go. All righty. If you want that scan, that, wait, no, that's more. This is just, I don't know, it's dumb. Anyway, continue. Well, we got a we got a screensaver there of Captain America's ass. Captain America. That's great. Obligatory. Yeah. You ain't allowed to do that both ways, are we? I can't believe it. Oh, no. But it's the only time in the show. The first few instances of objectification. Yeah. Like I said, I have to clarify just in case some people because one of the first responses I get is just like, oh, so you're you know, you come objectivated. But it was like, I just want it to be fair both ways. OK, that's all. Just want it to be fair. It's all I just want us all to be on the same playing field. That's all I want. No problem with the guy getting his butt out if he really wants to. They do that and ring the power. Not rings the power. How's the dragon a whole bunch? Yes. Yeah, she's got to go. She was looking for jobs not working out right now. So she goes to a family for some dinner. And my God, this this dinner scene was absolutely cut down. Like it would have been if it were like five minutes long originally, it's down to 30 seconds. Like it's. Oh, God, it's horrible. The way that the way that a lot of our recent Marvel stuff has well, like the the every conversation it feels like it was maybe 30 40 percent longer. They definitely knew that this was the ends. But like there's a lot of the connective tissue of the conversation is not present. Like everybody jumps to the part that the writers need them out, but they don't build. So it all like get them there organically. Well, if I was like just randomly talking about a fast way to solve a math problem and I do it and then it's complete. And then one of you goes, that kind of reminds me actually of my my mass teacher when I was a kid and used to do this thing on the board and you just cut that down to I complete the math problem. Then you immediately start talking about the story as you don't set it up. They cut shit like that out. They're they're so rushing. And so like to give you an idea, you walks in and I guess we'll skip over to just when he's like, I told everybody you're fired. So no one will talk about it. Woohoo. And it's like, oh, that's all good. Then you have a Ched. I think his name is Ched. Yeah. Ched. Yeah. Ched. That's what it is in the subtitles. I was like, Ched. I've never heard that name before in my life. But whatever. Find Ched. He says, you're fired. It's like, okay. Then he goes, stop it. We said to not bring it up. I said, don't do it. And then it's just like- I thought you said, you should bring it up. It's like, geez, what are we doing? It's so, ah. And then it cuts to like a different shot and it clearly to a point of like everybody's further along in the middle. And it's just like, big news. I got manager at Best Buy. It's like- Oh, woohoo. And it doesn't feel natural at all. It's just like, you know, ah, you got five winners. Like they must have, they must have cut out the way you get to there, right? You got fired. You're failing at your job or whatever. Me, on the other hand, big news. I got met, but instead it just cuts straight to like from, oh, she already feels terrible. Big news. I got manager at Big Best Buying. Okay. And then it's like the other people are good, employed and promoted as if to compare. And then you get the mom, I guess. She's like, oh, Jen, I gave some random person your number. And it's like, wait, what's happening now? Are we, okay. And then she's like, oh, he's too old, too young for you, but maybe you could give him advice on being a superhero. And then her dad is like, Jen, does Hawkeye pick up all the arrows after firing them? Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, it's like, what is happening? And I legit was just like, I'm getting so lost. I don't know if that's like part of the intention was to be like, oh, isn't it annoying when you go to like your family and they just all want to talk about different things or something, but instead I was just like, do any of them listen to each other? Is anyone talking to each other? It's like, I don't know what's happening. Well, they all seem to be just really stupid as well. They all know this just recently happened to her. And then they start asking stupid questions like, do you know these things about the Avengers? It's like, no, of course not. Yeah, after the Hawkeye comment, someone's like, you need to work on your hair, Jen. And it's like, okay. Okay. And then they all like overbearingly just start talking while the camera's just zooming in on her. And again, I was just like, is that really what you were going for? This is the family just talk. They just talk about shit. It doesn't matter what it is, everyone's just talking. But then in the middle of all of it, her dad is like, I need you to help me with something before you go. And it just hard cuts to them in the garage. It was like, oh, yeah. Okay. Right, because now we're gonna have like a real conversation. I just think it was a really piss-poor way at implying like she's unhappy with her family, I guess, because it just makes me assume awkward things about her just like, or that it was just cut in such a way to make these people look worse than they actually are. Cause I just don't believe people talk this way, but. Okay. In and amongst all the comments though, when I noticed, I don't know if you guys did, thanks to the subtitles that we got this, someone says, you know, Bruce is the one that actually saved billions of people with a snap of his fingers. Mm-hmm. What a strange thing to say. What does that have to do with anything? I don't know. And then I was like, why would that line be in there? Unless they're trying to, is it the writers are trying to show how Jen is being compared with Bruce? And that's unfair. And like, that's it. Cause having the word actually in there as if to imply she had implied because she saved people at the jury, that she's like a good superhero when someone else is just going like, well, you didn't save billions of people. You know what I mean? That's not something anyone would say. No, it's not. It's a really fucking weird comment. And I was just like, what's going on? What is going on? Why, who write this? Why? Well, that's a lot of the conversations and just all the dialogue in this is just, that's just not something people would say. People would not say that. And yeah, that exists only for a show. Any conclusion like a grass was just like, oh man, don't family suck. It's just like, okay, if that's what you wanted to write, I guess. That's it, family saying this to it. If family say a bunch of stuff, if family, the first thing a mom says is like, oh, you got to watch your waistline. And it's just like, do any of them say anything nice to her this whole time? No. Except her dad says, watch your nice things. Yeah, we got to put her down a bit. She's only a successful, attractive, insanely powerful superhero in a world that loves her now. We got to, you know, it's tough. It's tough. Hey. It's tough. The one thing I'll give the show entirely was, he suggests in front of her dad that maybe she should have let all the people die. And instead of saying maybe, he says, no, no, you should have saved him. He passed the test, everyone. He passed the test. He's not directed by Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder's she-hall-continue law. Maybe. Oh, God. Give them all. I love how much I guess meme these days. Great. Yeah, so this line didn't hit very well for me. He said, and they laugh or smile, whatever, this isn't even the first time we've had to deal with a Hulk in the family and you didn't destroy a city. Man. So why doesn't that sit well with me? Well, either he's referring to Harlem, or he's referring to Johannesburg. Harlem, the Hulk was unleashed to save the world from a raging abomination after the government was trying to kill him a whole bunch. And if you remember, he says I kind of broke Harlem as a reference to Harlem in Avengers. Yeah, I remember that. No, I don't know if he's referring to that. If it's Johannesburg, I would seriously caution him to ever fucking reference Johannesburg and reference to what the Hulk did if he knows the context. That'll be one of the most sensitive subjects in British life. You think that he might know? Cause I mean, he's as much like, I mean, this would be his uncle, right? You'd think- I mean, the world should know. Oh yeah, they would have to have been some level of a statement about that. And that's actually something of a whole, I would argue. You can't get away with that. And so it would be like the Hulk's got to go away or something and it's like, no, actually, the Scarlet Witch forced him to do it or tricked him into doing it. And it's like, so what's going to happen to him then? Right, no matter what, right? There's got to be consequences. I think, does Johannesburg show up on the Civil War, the DOS, I think? I think that would be- I think it does. That would probably be as close to an explanation as we'll get. They were going to address that. So yeah, I don't like it. I don't like treating that event as like, oh, you didn't even destroy a city. It's like, hmm. Yeah, that's good, because that's a terrible thing. That's a really bad thing to happen. You did not just do that. She's sad and she goes to a bar and has some drinks. Sad, sad, sad, whist, ever, life, ever. This is the worst day ever, really. And I thought it was really funny that in the bar on the TV, an episode of Ally McBeal is playing. Right, it's like- Yes. Obviously for the reference, but it's just like, what the fuck, what bar is playing Ally McBeal? Like, no, that's not happening. The Marvel bar. What are you doing? It's not even- It's not even- That's some shit you'd have to like personally request and bring your own old ass DVDs to get them to play. There's no way that's on TV right now. Or at least like- There's no sports playing, so we play Ally McBeal. It's just, it's what you do. I just don't know how many bars are playing Ally McBeal. That's just, maybe I'm prejudiced. It's a regional thing. But yeah, so the guy who was actually in the courtroom when Titania attacked, like the boss of, what was the firm called for you? Do you remember something in K? I don't. I mean, a bunch of letters. Something like that. Just call it the super law firm or something. But yeah, this just adds more to the bizarre. So he's like, Miss Walters, you laid out a winning case, which is very difficult to do against us. Come work for us. And you're just sort of like, huh, and then she says to him, you got me fired and now you want to hire me? He did, he got her fired. Yeah, that was him. The guy who fired you. Such a frustrating line. He was still working in the interests of his client. Like he's doing his job. Yeah, she should not only respect the fact that if the mistrial is valid, then it's valid. There's nothing more to it. There's not like it's done for revenge. And then on top of that, just the fact, she's a lawyer saying all this. If it was just an average person saying it, you could have some leeway. She's a fucking lawyer. How does she not know about this stuff? She out of work. And then she's like, you got me fired and now you want to hire me. When he just said, you beat us, I want you to work for us. Then she's like, you got me fired. She's like, oh God, we'll take the win when it is presented in front of you. But being a superhero so hard, me, actually. But yeah, and then again, by the way, this is all stuff on top of the facts. She's a bad lawyer. He's like, do you want to take the job? And then she's like, only if I can hire my own paralegal. Of all the things you could do for leverage, of all the things you could find out about your job, of all the just before agreeing, you know what I mean? But she just agrees. Well, yeah, because as we later find out, she didn't fully understand what she was agreeing to. Exactly. Now, once again, a lot of people may do this, but a lawyer, they're like hyper aware of how this shit works. But no, she's just idiot. Like, yeah, fine, go. And then she's like, oh, what? This isn't what I wanted. Yeah, man, that's annoying. And for those who don't know- You don't even know how much is being paid. Like, you do. Yeah, and that's what I mean about privileges or benefits, the only thing she requests is hiring her own paralegal. And he says like, I literally don't care. It's just like, oh, you didn't even get anything really. Like, there's nothing you requested. And she just accepts anyway. She's very, very not her own best friend. Let's just put it that way. Well, so I guess they just got a hold of Nikki over the weekend, no problem. She was just able to- Yeah, it's whatever. So when, because that's the best friend you're talking about, right? Yeah, that's Nikki, yeah. So he wasn't fired, theoretically, but she's just going to transfer over to a different orphan now. Yeah, contracts do not exist in the same words. I guess you might be getting paid more money, I guess, and also put them all together, you know? Well, yeah, right, like, did you quit your job without? I'm sure you had to give them notice, right? Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. They just grab her. She's just in the office when Jen gets there. It's like, oh, how did you, how did that happen? Yeah, you're right. That's really stupid. But who cares? Nikki's not a character, more of a- Oh, no, she's not a character. She basically, yeah, essentially she, like, that's the only reason she exists. She doesn't really have much to say about herself or in her life or like, she's just there so firm, Jen. Yeah, it's not unreal how much they wanted to write like a fun show about this, that, the other. It's like, how much law we've had to go over already. By the way, I'm a lawyer and it's unacceptable that this level of like, ineptitude has been done with the law. You can accept it, you can expect that they would get like very nitty gritty specifics wrong with maybe jurisdictions or even- Well, they're getting the basics, like, they just don't- If you do a law show and someone like me watches this, there's no idea of law and it's like, this doesn't seem right. I have no idea what's going on, but I don't feel this is right. And they did do two Googles and it's like, oh, that wasn't right. Have they covered the twerking yet? No. Oh, yeah, she finds out when she gets there, the thing she didn't want to be true is this, he's like, you gotta look like she Hulk whenever you're working here. Gotta go to be she Hulk mode. And she's like, wow. And he's like, yep, that's the reason I'm hiring you very much. She is now gonna be the head of the super human law division and then begins another fourth war break where she's like talking about how much she hates that this is why she's totally qualified for the job, but they're only gonna think she got it because of this, it's unfair. It's like, so that doesn't, so like you're, if you do your job here and you do it well, like people aren't gonna think that anymore. He already hired her because she made a winning case. Well, that's true, but she is correcting that people will assume she was hired for being she Hulk. However, that is true. Once she knows that she's good, that is true, that's exactly. So there is that. Yeah, that is. Yeah. It's kind of on a few levels. It seems like a weird sort of observation. It feels like so much as not being addressed or that the writers are unaware. It's like you wrote it so that he only wanted to hire her for the way she looks, right? That's specific. He wants to have the publicity of she Hulk is leading the superhero division for his company, such law firm, whatever. And then she's just like, I'll have to fuck bullshit. People will think that's why you hired me. I don't understand. I'm listening to that as an audience member, like, but just said it is, what do you mean? And then Fring is correct. What she has to do is be a good lawyer. Well, yeah, right. If she's losing cases and screwing everything up, like what good is it gonna be to them? Like whatever personality, like public facing personality she has if she can't do her job. At the end of the day, she's got to be competent at what she does and if she is, which the show says she is, then there shouldn't be a problem. So I don't know, like just take what you can get. You for some reason, the world decided that you can't get a job. For some reason. Yeah. For some reason is exactly what you can get. And then you can prove yourself when you're there. You've got your in now. You can now prove yourself. Also this weird moment on top of everything we just said about how bad this line is or bad this thought is, she's just such a stupid character on top of being an asshole. He says explicitly essentially that the only high we've been she held people think I'm not qualified. It's so unfair. These dodo's never had to deal with this on their first day. And she's looking over at a room filled with men, laughing. And it's like, you know what you just said? You said those guys never had to deal with people thinking they were hired for something superficial. But they had to, people had to believe they were hired for this skill. That sounds like a really good opportunity to prove your value. I just don't understand. Why does that make them lesser that they would have been seen as hired for this skill rather than the way they look? Is it specifically all white men in that room, right? Yes. Are they running? Okay. Well. I don't understand what the fuck she thinks she's saying that they never had to worry about people thinking that they weren't hired for this skill while I have to. And it's just like, you weren't hired for your skill. They likely were. Yeah. They probably worked really hard and spent years and years and years of their lives and a lot of blood, sweat and tears at lawyering in order to be able to be in that room. You don't know who they are. You've never met a white man. You've never met a white man. And it's such a poorly written moment because as far as what I can tell the show is saying is fuck those guys for working harder than me. I just don't understand. Like, okay. Why can't it sounds like you wonder if she's thinking why can't I be given free stuff? It's almost like the weird read on it. It's like, how come I have to. I think that it's botched. What the point that they were getting at is that she is like, damn man, like to me this could have just been like an unequivocally good opportunity. But like now I recognize that the reason why I got this job, even though I think I'm good enough that I could have earned this job through merit. I got it because of this she-hulk thing. That's lame and I'm gonna have to deal with that at work. I think that's what they were trying to get at. Yeah, they're saying that they never had to deal with that, but she does. People are gonna look at her and think you weren't hired for your skill, were you? When they never had to deal with that. But if you accept that as true, then it also has to be true that they actually were hired for their skill then. If there was never any concern about them being hired for any other reason, that's likely why they were hired. It's like, and again, she says it like derogatorily toward them when she knows nothing about them. Yeah, but they're white men. It's causing issue in terms of just me being able to like her. Like, wow, you're kind of an ass. Keep getting references piling on, which is not good. She started with you breaking the fourth wall but she wasn't listening to what the guy who hired her had to say. Yeah, which was weird. Cause then he says like, what do you think? And she says I'm agnostic. Which he's just kind of a bit confused by that. Yeah, he says interesting, unprecedented. That would probably be an unprecedented response to that question. He probably is true there. But then if it weren't because she just says, I'm going to worry for the rest of a year about what that was, why don't you just do what a normal person would do and be like, oh wait, sorry, what did you say? I might have heard you wrong. Sorry, I was just overwhelmed. I was looking at all of those things around me in the office. I was talking to them. You think a lawyer might be good at something like that? No. You think a lot of things about this show and how it should be, but. Right, so here's the second reference to a demon friend. Like she walks in the office and she's like, guess what? They only want me for the she-hulk part of me. How fucked up is that? They're different. It's like, yeah, but look at what we have. Look at this, look at this. We got a fridge. We got a really nice office. It's just like, wow, you didn't listen to her at all, did you? Sorry, I mean, about like, again, I just see this as poor writing because I'm pretty sure the writers of the show are like, wouldn't you love a friend like this? She's like a vibe increaser. She's gonna keep you going. She's always gonna be there for you, having fun. But it's like, no, she's a horrible friend. She doesn't listen to anything Jed says. And she always looks to see what she could benefit out of all of this. She's talking about herself having fun, by the way, with those drinks that office as well. Like, you gotta get a better friend, I'm just saying. Kind of, yeah. And then we meet Guy, I forget his name. Pug. His name is Pug. Pug. This is the, this is the law team for the show. This is one of the people of the law division, yeah. The city human law division. Yeah, we got, he's gonna be with Jen, who's gonna be with the paralegal. This is our like, little dream team who sometimes work together, sometimes don't. And then we'll have cameos. Seems to be what they're going for, question mark. James DeBade. And then he says like, here's where you need to go for the toilet that's best for pooping in. Yeah. I've heard mixed reactions to this. I don't know what to make of it. I find that really fucking weird myself, but uh. I don't. Yeah, it implies that there is a very clear and distinct like hierarchy of toilet quality in this establishment. Like some of them don't work or they're broken. They all fancy more office. It's bad, be like, some of them not work. How do you, wait, wait, wait. How do you, how do you know? Wouldn't that be the way that you'd want to introduce that information though? We didn't want to be like, hey, pro tip. There are three toilets on this floor. Two of them, let's just want to avoid them. Just trust me on that, okay? I'll be the kind of way. You don't hand them a thing and you say this is the poop toilet. Yeah, well there's a little map on it, so it's really cute. But like the look they give him, my impression was that it was supposed to be maybe the character thinks like, this is helpful, but the show is like, yeah, but that was weird. So he tells her this, but how does he, how informed is he on the state of the women's bathroom? That's a good question. I guess the unisex, I don't fucking know. It's all very strange. It's a strange moment. I don't know if the show wanted us to find him endearing from this or if it was funny, I don't know. It was just weird. Wherever I go to work, I would never give in a poop guide, but maybe that's my loss. That's not our strategy. He needs to figure out the optimal toilets. So no one wants to poo in a subpar toilet. That's just a given. Oh yeah, by the way, she acknowledges the huge pay increase and then she's like, I'm gonna need like a whole of the wardrobe. He's like, well yeah, I'm gonna go buy one. Gosh, I hope you can make it. I don't feel like it would be low on the list of things to talk about. It's almost like if I gave you a bag of gold, you'd complain it was heavy. Hey, you could probably actually put that in your things you wanted to get the job. Well, because if she would have known that she has to be sheer close, I was like, oh well, then you got to buy me all this wardrobe because I'm gonna pay for that myself. That could have been something. It would have made some sense. See if she was intelligent and they had said before hiring her that that was gonna be a requirement for some contract, whatever. She can be like, if you're gonna force me to do that, it's gonna cost me loads of money to do this, that and the other and get that in the contract. But no, from what we can tell, she just went, I agree. Woo. You know what, I think Holloway, I think is his name. By the way. He probably would have been like, yeah, I don't care, just do it. Had she refused to do that, he wouldn't have hired her by the way. So that's still a choice she made. You know what I'm saying? You could argue that, you know, that she had no other choice. And I should be like, well, that's not necessarily true, is it? Especially if this law firm is willing to hire her for a she-hulkiness. Maybe another law firm would, but they don't require that you stay. Getting a job is helpful. I mean, I guess if the show's trying to pass off the concept that she totally can't just go get a million other jobs, write this very second. So that was actually something they discussed. Her friend suggests like a fast food restaurant or something, but it's dismissed. And it's like, I mean, that is still an option. It's an option. It's silly that you have to even entertain that, but it is an option. And I would just go as far as saying that there's an awkwardness there for the character to be like, isn't it fucked up that they're hiring me just for my she-hulkiness? Like, agreed. You didn't have to. You could leave it at any time. Yeah, you could have said no, or let me think about it. So it's, what's the reference I'm thinking of where it's just like, I'll take your money, but you're evil sort of thing. And it's just like, There's no future armor or something. I was thinking of Frye. And I was like, is that, am I on? It sounds like a Frye thing. Yeah, help us out. Is there any, or is it Homer? Is that a good one? Yeah. I'll send Simpson. Well, if you can help out. Sounds like it would. Maybe it was Bender. Yeah, it might be Bender. Bender could do it as well. Yeah, they're all characters that I could see doing this. Yeah, Homer. Just not quite shut up and take my money. I was more so thinking about like a moment where the character recognizes taking the money would be like, accepting that your criticism of them is kind of weak if you're gonna take their money and they do anyway. Cause I know that Homer becomes like a Mr. Boons is like a little clown for a whole episode where he'll just do anything he wants him to do for money. Oh yeah, like, and then he throws Pudding at the laddie side. Oh my eye, I'm not supposed to get Pudding in it. And then he throws it at Carl. It's like, what are you doing? That's Carl. That's Carl. It takes him to the eye wash machine and then glass out of him. Oh, that sounds familiar. I'll take your money, but I'm not gonna plow your driveway. Yeah, that's the Mr. Plow ship, right? Cause he's pissed off that, the Plow King has plowed his yacht that he's just like, okay, I'll pay you to do it too. And he's like, I'll take your money, but I'm not gonna plow your drive. That might be the reference. It's not quite what I was looking for, but it's still funny as fuck. Anyway, we get, so like, her boss is not an interesting character, unfortunately, he's just evil. We catch it and they let us know this by having this line where he says, let Carrington go and tell Bobby's going to Minneapolis cause he hates the cold. Yeah, okay. He's just an asshole. There's no other purpose to that line. You should probably send the best person for a bit. Nope, he's doing it cause he's an asshole. Yeah, isn't that funny? Very funny. That is very funny in their defense. So then he's like, you've got to go for the Emil Blonsky case. And she's like- Yeah, so I guess I'll run for it first, sure. Yeah, she's like, I can't do that. Conflict, interest. He tried to kill my cousin and then he goes, he's waved it, take the case or you're fired. Oh, I guess the first thing that's worth addressing, Emil Blonsky up for parole, no way. No way. Shit, absolutely not, no way. I think we might want to catch everyone up again on this. Dude, that is downright annoying at this point, isn't it? Cause it's been a while. Yeah, it has been a while. So Emil Blonsky is the abomination. He caused a lot of havoc when he went to Harlem. He destroyed that place and he killed a lot of people. And the reason why he had the super serum, why did he use it again? Like what was the context that brought that about? So in the film, he contractually agrees with Ross to be experimented on and given these abilities. And he even says like, if this goes too far, you have to be pulled out. You agree and he said, yeah, of course. He wants to be as powerful as the Hulk. He wants to be a super-duper-duper soldier. That's the movie. And Emil Blonsky, he's kind of a smart guy. He's ruthless and he eventually goes kind of nuts and just wants more and more of anything he can get. He eventually injects the Hulk's blood, right? Isn't that what he does? Something like that? Something like that, yeah, sounds about right. And then concoction of chemicals as it turns him into an abomination. It's like, yeah, yeah. He destroys Harlem and he kills a lot of people. I mean, he's a villain. Now, that he would be up for parole after like 15 years, no way. He's not eligible for parole in his lifetime. There's no way. Like the sentences he would have got would have precluded him from like that within his lifetime. It's insane. So he's not up for parole. The Blonsky parole is presumably set up by Valentina slash Thunderbolt, Ross for the Thunderbolt. The thing, he's not in the Thunderbolts yet, right? The announced cast, he's not in it. I know that he's not in that, yeah. And what does that mean? He set it up. It's like, what was his sentence? What was the sentence that he received? And I would say that even if that were the case, that context would need to be in this. You need to have that moment where they're like, how could his parole be put through? And then it's like, you know, it's higher ups of blah, blah, blah, or even mention Ross that's being pushed through or something, but there's no in-ear enough context for that. The way they portray it is that he's on good behavior and so it's being considered. So it's being considered, even though it would have been a part of his sentence, like the possibility of parole and when, depending on what he was depicted of. Yeah, because one of the things he brings up as part of like entertaining parole is that this was none of it was his fault. Like, why wasn't this brought up before? Yeah, like, you mean that everything that happened, like with that. She, if you remember, she has like a lawyer moment where she's like, wait a minute. Are you suggesting that, you know, you were under the influence of the chemicals and it was not your like, you know, choice to do these things? Which by the way, it doesn't really come up in the, in the rest of it. It's much more about Wong. Yeah. It's really, I think at the end of episode two, we're supposed to just accept, we're like meant to accept the conclusions that have been drawn by the show, which is he is up for it and he has a real chance at getting it as he's reformed and just ignore every other question that you would have about him and how he'd be eligible for it and how you would argue it. Yeah, she says the serum caused the subsequent actions as though it has, it's gonna be relevant, but that never comes up again. That's true. I think that's resolved and settled. Like we have to remember. All that evil after all, that's our first. Didn't they say the initial plan with Blonsky was like a three episode case? Yeah, but they didn't know how to write compelling legal drama and courtroom drama. Yeah, I wonder if that's compelling anything. I wonder if that's like a remnant of when they were gonna be trying to use that as part of getting a reduced sentence or something. Yeah, I imagine that once the idea of abomination was floated, Kevin Feige was like, yeah, we'll get him in. That'll be for the people like that. And so it's like, yeah, but I have a story to tell with him, which I'm wondering what they, yeah. Realize now, I jumped a little bit too far because some of this stupid happens before that. When she's on her way to the prison. Yeah, but oh, sorry, I've jumped ahead of that. Though she's, yeah. So like she's like, nah, I can't. And he's like, you can because Blonsky waved the bias. It makes you wonder why does he want her so much? I guess we're probably gonna, well, no, we probably should have found out in episode three why he wanted her specifically. We never did, yeah. And maybe we will in future. But if the reason really is that he thought that she was the best lawyer to get him off, that's gonna be so fucking annoying considering how she actually did it. Well, I mean, considering that this is your whole life, you probably wouldn't want to take that risk, right? No, but the Carrington guy says, oh, sorry, not Carrington. What's the name of, do you remember the name of your boss? I don't know. Holloway, Holloway. Holloway, sorry, yeah. He says like Blonsky wanted you specifically. Yeah. Because it's weird, right? Yeah, it's not relevant, presumably. They could have had She-Hulk on the team. They didn't need to have her directly representing him, but apparently Blonsky wouldn't refuse any other thing. Well, if she was part of the team that was working on it, still would be the same problem of conflict. No, sorry. What I mean is like Blonsky is asking for her to just be number one. Like she could be in the office is what I'm suggesting. While someone else does all of the... As long as there's enough compartmentalization within the office to prevent her from being involved, sure. Unless he wanted her specifically, which he did. I'm not saying it gets rid of the conflict. I'm saying that Blonsky was asking that she be like the number one and just doing everything, which is weird. Why? Why does he want that so much? I, maybe it's got to be for the plot, right? Surely. Or did they just want the two pads to share and they didn't care how we got there? Yeah, but maybe he'll come back. Like he's definitely coming back. He's coming back, yeah, but I don't know if they're gonna talk about that anymore, are they? Well, I mean, we know that a plot bead has to do with her blood, right? Like after episode three, so maybe he's involved. Well, what I'm saying is I don't know if they'll have anything more on why did you choose me as your lawyer? I feel like we're done with that. Yeah, that's all we got. I'm pretty sure that's all we got. Which case, I guess, yeah, that's, I guess I could see it being as simple as they just wanted those two. They wanted her to interact with him and that was just a barrier to get past. And this is probably something that's worth highlighting right now. One of the things that should be on Jennifer's mind at the moment in terms of resolving this conflict of interest is, you know, your job is essentially to act in the best interests of your client and like advance their interests as best as possible. The whole point of like conflict of interest as a thing is to ensure that that's what you're doing and that there aren't things that are gonna get in the way of you acting in the best interests of your client and doing your job diligently for them. So like from her perspective, the important part of resolving this conflict of interest should be essentially resolving that issue so that she can best do her job and not be encumbered by any biases that she has against him. As we progress through the episode, it will be pretty clear that that is not like her priority. I mean, we've already shown from the previous scene, we saw her showing bias against people in a boardroom. Like that's not a very lawyer thing to walk in. I guess you can be biased personally as long as it doesn't affect you in your job, right? Yeah, that is true. It's not a good indication of a character if she lets biases fuck her up on the average day-to-day basis at all, but- Not a good indication of a character, Mahler. Well, I have probably made a clear I'm not a big fan of Jen Walters so far. What? I'm sure that- Not me neither. So- Yes, definitely, yes, she will. Yeah, so that's why they send her to the prison. He's like, go and meet Emil and then decide if you want to take the case. Okay. So yeah, that's why she ends up talking to him and he talks about how- Right, no, it's not to get past the fact that when she goes to the prison, they're like, no powers, and then she transforms into a human. It's like, oh, but she still has power. She can transform at any time. No, she's unpowered herself, it's fine. It's just like- Yeah, that's what you were talking about. It's just like when they say no firearms and so you turn in your gun before you go into the saloon, it's just like that. In this case, it's just you disable, you just, I don't know, you uncock it and then just walk in it. I was gonna say, you could argue, it's like, oh, it's like putting the safety on her. It's like, it's not really anything close. It's not anything. She can turn that on and off- Nothing's changed whether she- Yeah, like it's nothing. Like- Yeah. So yeah, it's just, it's super awkward to me that it's just like kind of super powers while you're in here. It's like she still has it, whatever. Well, but now they don't have to CGI it, so it's not as expensive. Very true. It's very arbitrary, but yes, I agree. Well, the other huge issue with that part that I almost forgot, Josh Don, is that they have to make her sign a thing about how if she dies here, they're not at fault. And then she doesn't read it. She doesn't read it. She's a lawyer. You just, you don't even know what you just signed away. No. That should have been presented to her, like, well before she was right at the door. She should have been sent to her with a package before she even- She should have been sent to her by email at the very least so that she could look at it before she went there rather than right when she arrived. And I actually enjoy, there's one thing here where she makes a reference to Hannibal Lecter because I guess she's just such a fun-loving gal and the guard just says, man, this is a prison. And I was just like, hey, that's nice. Like, appropriately taking this seriously for that guy. But of course, he's probably seen as a wet blanket by the show. So anyway, yeah, that's when she starts talking to Emile. They do a very easily, it's like dun-un-un-un-un-un-un and then he goes, you know, namaste. Like, ha-ha, I see he's chill now. He's chill. That's just become the stereotypical, I am chillin' at peace at namaste. She immediately breaks the rule, the one rule they gave her, by the way. Steps over the line. That was the one thing they told her not to do when she did it. Yeah, but isn't it funny? I don't even, but it makes you want to sometimes, like, what is the point of doing that? What does it help? Is there anything up? It doesn't tell, she just fucked that up for a moment there. It's like, okay. Good job. I think you're in it now. Fine. So yeah, he just starts talking about, he's like, I was under direct orders for the government. Given a bunch of chemicals and serums. I was hoping I'd become the next Captain America. I was decorated. I was sent out there to take out a threat and now look at me. Like, he's doing like a sob story and it's so bizarre to me. It's like, bro, the government would have noted everything about you because you worked for them and they would have had it all. Ross isn't retarded. He wouldn't have just like, he could be a little bit retarded, depending on, but like it. Cool, but it's universe now. It's just frustrating because like, you would have had everything in place to make sure that this would never be possible, that he could just argue like, the government screwed me over and then they release him as a result. It's like, that's never gonna happen. That's funny because I didn't see the movie. So I had to do a little bit of research. So, what actually happened? Because for a moment it's like, oh, that could be an interesting thing they could do. You know what? I'm kind of on board. Then I did minimal research. I was just like, oh, that's horse shit. What are you saying? So, good job. Well, part of this is just confusing. I guess we'll know by the end of the season is how much of this we're supposed to be like, ah, he's lying about everything. The thing is like, how is he getting away with it? And how can you tell what the writer's intention are if it's all bad? This would be a well-documented case. Samuel Blonsky, there'd be a lot of information about him, a lot of evidence. And again, just, what was he, what was he convicted of? That he's up for parole in like 15 years? Like the question, I don't know. I see what you mean, like simultaneously, he's there for 15, but he's not there forever. So, what was like? Well, yeah, it's like, did he not get like seven life sentences or something? Like, what is his sentence that he's up for parole? Was he gonna be released 10 years later anyway? Like, was he just gonna be released at some point? Exactly, yeah, it's bizarre. Well, yeah, the amount of time he has served is literally only connected to the fact that they had to look at the dates when the movies came out. That's it. Pretty much, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's totally a part of the sentence. In a sense, you could say what a coincidence it is that like a week after She-Hulk, as like identity has been revealed and she gets into a new law firm, Emil Blonsky, the man who fought in Bruce just so happens to be up for parole. Yeah. Pretty, I didn't even think of that. That is quite interesting, yeah. Yeah, that is. Good point. This show continues to break and crumble like as you think about it. I noticed that, yeah. You know, as well, it would have been cool to have like had a universe like that that is something as significant as this character is going away for 10 years. Whoa. And knowing that, you know, you will eventually get to the point where 10 years have passed. So we'll have to deal with that again once it happens. Yeah, that is true. That would be a really neat sort of long-term storytelling sort of thing. It's just like, oh, that guy's back out. But yeah, there's that kind of planning. Yeah, bullshit. Anyway, so, yeah, the implication is like, so what are you going to take on a meal or not? And so she feels she needs to ring Bruce first. And she says, like, I can't take on a meal without knowing whether or not you hold a grudge. Everyone deserves a second chance and you made good arguments and he was so compelling. I just I want to believe he's reformed, which I thought was really interesting. I think she doesn't bring up at all the most important part of all of this, which is that, well, he's entitled to a defense, right? Like, and whether or not you believe he's reformed made good arguments as to whether or not he's innocent. I mean, that's not going to trump whether or not you want to keep your job presumed. Like, what I mean is like, it feels like a weird discussion that she's only going to take the job if she believes he's innocent. And if that's true, there's no fucking way she should believe he's innocent. Oh, unless she's incredibly naive. And so now I'm getting a bit lost. And the thing is, the whole, like- It's said namaste. The whole representing him properly because it's the law and it's important in the country so that actually gets brought up in the next episode in a very, very good line. It does get brought up, yeah. But it's like- So like in this case, it's just not even a thing that she's considering is like- Yeah, she's talking about how- He's entitled to a robust counsel and I believe that I can do that and I believe that I've resolved the problems that are going to interfere with my ability to dispense and do my job properly. But that's not part of anything that she says, yeah. It's not just the things she says, it's the things she doesn't say. All of that is character. Oh, it's really annoying to me because it's like- And then of course ringing Bruce to ask if there's a grudge and she says like, because you've never talked about it. And I got really annoyed hearing that and I was like, you apparently have no fucking clue about anything to do with his life. So why would you even try that? Yeah, you don't talk about whether or not you had a grudge. I mean, at the very least Bruce calls around and just says, you already wanted to take this job. Like you were going to do it anyway. Yeah, but it's a really fun thing, not an actual criticism. It shouldn't be exaggerated. It's kind of a big deal. It's just one of them big headed moments. Yeah, basically she's not calling him to ask his opinion. She's calling him to tell him she's doing it. Yeah, but unfortunately Bruce is cool with abomination. He said I'm a haiku and it was all good. Yeah, Namaste. Namaste. Yeah, I don't know what to think of that myself. Like Blonski wrote me a heartfelt letter. It's like, he says, we put everything behind us. It's like, I don't even... If there are fans with the incredible help moving out there, they're probably annoyed, but... I'm sure they are. There's an abomination like his arch enemy. I think so. And now we got like Goofy's Soly Hulk and Namaste Abomination. Have fun with those guys. That's a smart Hulk. I swear, he's smart. Smooth. And she says like, when you visit him next, and he says, well, it won't be for a while. And he's off to space. He's going probably for the car to set up the World War Hulk, and that's gonna happen maybe. And the episode ends with the realization that yes, she will take the case. However, a video has leaked of abomination having broken out of prison and fought in some kind of underground crazy thing from Shang-Chi. Whoa. I'm sure this is all that makes sense. I wanna know if, is this going to... The fact that this leaked now, is that gonna be a plot thing later? Like, and it was a, I got the all along thing, where we discovered somebody. I actually don't know if it will be... I think they're gonna forget about it. Why would that need benefit? Like, who would do that? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think they're ever going to revisit this. It's just for the story. Oh, it just so happens that right now, this video that's been out has been leaked. I don't know how it hasn't been leaked. It's not leaked, it's just like that's, that's just what happens there at this place, I suppose. Someone had this on his phone for four years or something. They're waiting for the official word that his parole was coming up. Like, do I have something at store for you? Because I think she Hulk, because Hulk appears, Bruce appears in the post-credits scene with his arm in a sling. I mean, now we go like how, so I don't know timeline-wise, like, surely it would have been not leaked. It would have just happened. Like, it would have been a long time ago. They say it's leaked. Yeah, they just said it's leaked, which I don't even, what does it mean to be leaked? It was at like a place like where a lot of people were attending. I know- Yeah, phones everywhere. I don't know, dude. I got nothing. I mean, we're going to find out a lot about that and it's going to be disastrous. Oh, gosh, yeah. Three and four are particularly bad, too. This was like only mid-bad for she Hulk. Because three and four is when the actual show begins, essentially, like the formula, which is she Hulk taking on these crazy cases. You don't want to miss this any episode. Yeah, just so my theory on why this work this way is because it creates what the writers in the writing room probably would call drama. Yeah, they're like, wouldn't it be if someone probably brought up like, oh, remember that fight scene he's in in Shang-Chi, we've got to incorporate that. And it's like, oh, well, what if the video of that leaks right when she takes the case and believes he's innocent? Oh, no. And then nobody in the rise room said, wait, why? No one in the writers' room said why. That is an accurate, just, that's just an accurate landscape of the writing room. Why didn't anyone ask why? Which, that completes episode two. Sure does. Hard to believe that it gets way better from here on out. Those are the good ones, guys. Well, yeah, from what I'm gathering, I actually have like, hope the episode five will be the only okay-ish one if they handle Daredevil properly, but it could simultaneously be the most horrible one if they do. Well, they already said that that people already got serious Daredevil. So no, it's going to be different one or something. Why do we think the next one's Daredevil? Wouldn't the next one be like, with a Titania, the trademark stuff? I thought they were doing that at the same time. I don't know about that. I feel like I saw something that said that Daredevil was going to get like a dedicated episode, that it was going to be like focused on Daredevil and that it's not here yet. Oh, well, whenever they do the Daredevil episode then. Well, that's the one that's, man, I'm nervous. You should be fucking terrified. Yeah, you should run. You should run. So, episode three. Woohoo. Three is a magic number, they say. Yeah, so the first thought you might have, because we're going to take right on from episode two, is just like, wow, Emile didn't tell anybody about this. I guess he was just hoping it would remain a secret. Even like how is it even possible that that's a secret? He was in a heavily guarded high security prison. How did he get out? How do you put him out of that little thing? Like, that's it. They would detect cameras on him at all times. I don't know. I'm just motion sensors of some kind, surely. Yeah. Well, he's... And people, that's true. He's probably gone for an hour or two and no one sees that. Nobody knows. I don't know, did Wong put up an illusion or something that, like... It's not his name. It's Wongers. It's Wongers. I don't know. No, no, his name was Wongers all along. Yeah. No. She goes to speak to him, because of course she would. He says, I was forced to fight after I was kidnapped from prison. Who would do such a dastardly deed? In general, the second he brought that up, I was like, that fucking better not be true. Because that doesn't make any sense. Because I guess this is just now coming up. Well, when we saw Wong and Abomination in Thingy, and then we get to the context of this, I'm just waiting for them to explain that to me. I was like, because obviously Wong wouldn't kidnap him. That would be incredibly unethical. That would make no sense at all. Yeah, that would be extremely out of character. Whatever that is. Whatever that concept is. I guess that's the grace that the show has, is I don't even know what his character is now to break. Yeah, for those who haven't gotten the update, Wong has been damaged several times at this point in the MCU, but there's always room for more. Yeah, we can do more. There's always room for more on the sludge pile. There's no upper limit. Emile doesn't have the full context for this. He just says, yeah, he did that. That's the thing that he did. So now the next thing is like, well, time to contact Wong. And how do we do that mutually? Oh, well, it seems like you know maybe what app they use it, because I don't. Well, they check his apparently his LinkedIn account. That's relatable and funny, but it causes problems. Hey. So what's what's interesting as well as the meeting stores on LinkedIn, is there a relatable experience? Exactly. Do you live in magic? That's very potter shit. He says like he's either the Sorcerer Supreme or a librarian in Kamataj when it's like, I think you pointed this out for me, but it actually says on her screen that he was target sales for nine years, librarian for 11, and then currently Sorcerer Supreme. Yeah. So like if you can read. Yeah. You can make a mistake if you could read. Oh, but I guess she read the line from the script. Yeah. They changed that. They made the actual graphic. Whoops. It's one of those things where you could a scene like this where it's like a close up of a phone. Surely you can just like show an actual image on the phone. It's focused on it and everything. You don't have to. Yeah. I can just put a little picture on there. See the benefit. Right up until the end, but then they literally changed it to be wrong. Yes. But also isn't like glare like a real thing that would potentially screw them? I mean, potentially, but you can. I mean, if you angle it right, it looks just fine. I guess I don't. So what do you think like? I'm sure as to it. Hey, well, I'll go as far as saying this. How do you know this isn't real? How do you know this isn't like an actual phone? I thought. Like in terms of would I be able to look at this and know? I mean, I don't know. Oh, I thought you said that they had changed it. How would I know that? I don't know. No, what I'm saying is that the screen information doesn't match what she said. Oh, okay. Yeah. Which that could be because of a lot of reasons. Obviously, it's very obviously not like, yeah, that's that was a green thing on there and they changed it. I was going to say, looking at the edges doesn't seem like it's quite right. Exactly. That's something that's going wrong. I can understand why you do it in a lot of scenes, but in a scene like this, where it's just like a close up of the screen, it would have had, it would have, it would have alleviated some of the disconnect I have with the reality of the show as it presents itself to me, namely with our main character. It's just one of those little things I wish we'd see especially in a situation like this, where you could like essentially make it. I'll have you know, Rags, you didn't call out a CGI piece of paper in Final Destination 4. Yes, I did. You said it was fine. It'll be on the recording. I even say like Rags, I'm surprised that you're okay with that. It's probably because by the time we were on Final Destination 4, my brain was already just like, that was the least of that movie's problems. I'm not going to lie, everybody. Final Destination 4 is a funny fucking movie. There are, I notice many things and not everything gets to, gets the privilege of coming out of my mouth. Some of the thoughts just stay nestled up in there and they say, what's up? And like, no, no, no. We have to talk about the rest of the things in Final Destination 4 first. Whoa, spoilers for Halloween. I'm going to give you, not a spoiler, a generator, okay? So you've got the arcs on the way and let's just say there is a character in Final Destination 4 that is listed on IMDb. The character name is Racist. That is it. Yeah. He has a very particular role in the story. It's good movies, on the way. Get ready for funs out. Anyway. Yeah, it says that he was a target sales in Kamatage, Nepal. Is it, is Target in Nepal? I'm not sure. For a second there, I was just like, I don't know how far Target's reach is. How do you search for something like that? Target's chain or Target buildings in the world? I guess I can just Google Target Store in Nepal and it looks like, let's see, I'm zooming in Lalitpur in Kathmandu. We have a Target, let me take a look because we might actually have it. Wow. It's called Target, but it's not that Target unless maybe that is the Target he worked at. Yeah, it looks like. I think he's in Kathmandu. I think so. There's places like one Target, a few places called Target, Target Fashion, things like that, but I don't think it's like our Target, what we think of. It could have been, maybe he worked at one of those and that's what it's referencing. Maybe it's a cover story. You know what? That could also be true. He'll need a cover story when he, well. We can get there. So, yeah, it's carrying on. They're like, we'll contact him by sending him a thing on LinkedIn, LinkedIn, like a picture or something. Just like, don't they have like, isn't there a whole legal method of contacting him? Isn't that how this is supposed to work? Yeah. Surely like the, there's an, like a receptionist. You just got to be a receptionist. There you'd think. You would think. A commotage. I mean, a commotage, like, not commotage, he lives at the, he lives at the Sanctum Santorum. Like he sources of premium in New York. You know where that is. There's an address for that. Like. But to be honest with you. You're like a receptionist. That's a, but you probably have like security guards at the door to make sure people don't just walk in. That's a really important place. And it's very prominent in this universe. I actually would go as a step in another direction. The second you acknowledge that commotage slash the sorcerers have any kind of way of interacting casually with, I don't know, law or any kind of institution, it opens up a bazillion questions. Yeah. That makes it very apparent in episode four when we get there. Yeah. I guess we should probably save it for then. But still, I think it's a problem already introducing the idea that we can just bring in Wong to talk about his involvement with abomination. It's like, wait, so a sorcerer is being brought in to discuss how he portaled a man out at, you understand that there's a, I don't know, it's like, it's like one of those things where someone tells you something and the point they want to make isn't the interesting part of what they say. You know what I mean? The parts that explain the context for what point they're trying to make. You're like, wait, what about that other you? Yes, I did get him out of the prison with my portal magic. Portal magic? What the fuck? It's like, yeah, what? That sounds good to me. What? I mean, at this point in the universe, portal magic should be just a known phenomenon that's quite well documented. And if we want to accept that, then it should have been made illegal already, I presume. Well, definitely. We ain't going to talk about it, are we? Well, we'll talk about it when we get to episode four. That's going to be the time to talk about it. All in one clump. Don't worry. It all makes sense. Yeah, there. Dyer. Nothing will make sense. Nothing. Well, that's kind of the point we're trying. But anyway, she tells it like, yeah, I'm going to try and contact Wong. And she's in the car when she says this. And then she looks at the screen and she's like, this is not a cameo per week show. This is my show. And then she goes except Hulke or Bruce and Abomination and Wong. And then I was in my head thinking like, I'm dead, devil. And that's pretty much is per week. And then it's just like, lampshade the cringe. All right. You practically submitted to cringe. Like, you're this corpse and you keep like grabbing little IVs of cameos and sticking them into your arm to try and stay alive. Like, that's what your show is. That's when we need to rename our show. Lampshade the cringe. Gross. You can't do it. So anyway, you get we get the part on a fan of this part. Okay. I think we're more cringe. It was pretty montage of people reacting to the existence of she Hulk in the MCU in universe. This is people saying stuff like, I hate female heroes. They took the Hulk's manhood and they gave it to a woman. Yeah. Man, there's so many fucking things in here that doesn't make a liquor sense. Like a machine. Stupidest matter commentary I've ever seen because they have like shit in there. It's just like, yeah, as I already said, they took the Hulk's manhood. We gave it to a woman or something. But the Hulk's still around. Are you turning? Why are you turning every superhero into girls? I did pause on those frames and read most of them down. Yeah. No more female superheroes, please. Why are you turning every superhero into a girl? Someone find a way to cancel hashtag she. I have no problem with female heroes. Just saying make your own. So none of this can make any sense in universe. Exactly. Because the context here, first of all, I want to really want to talk about the manhood one, the first thing. A big event that a superhero did. I guess you'd say is Iron Man in terms of, well, no, because Mysterio did those things. There's a lot of things, but I don't think any, any event is really compared to Iron Man Snap. And by extension, really, the Hulk Snap. The Hulk Snap is probably the most heroic thing that has happened in the history of the universe. So someone saying they took the Hulk's manhood away and gave it to a woman. It's like, I mean, the Hulk is currently alive and well. And he just recently did the most heroic thing in the history of the universe. Meanwhile, she's just here. She also exists. I don't even know why someone would say this in universe. It doesn't make any sense. Because I don't actually know what the arguments people make are. They're totally disconnected from what people really say. So no one is going around taking the superpowers of male superheroes and put them into women. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why would anybody say that in universe? It doesn't have any context that can line up at all. Exactly. We've already had female heroes that have existed in this world. Are you suggesting that this is what happens every time? Why? What do you mean? I don't understand. It's very strange. It's hard to... So it's just cringy and like, as I was saying before, super insecure from the writers. It's dumb as shit. We've got to have affirmative action with superheroes. What do you mean? Do you think the government made him because they want more female... Like, is that the idea of what's happening here in universe? No more female superheroes, please. It's got 5.6k likes. It's got a little prey symbol. I heard this. I don't know if that's true, but I heard that they actually took like real comments from when they announced the show. Yeah, but the thing is... They just put them in there. How a world is different than their world. No, I know. I just wanted to mention it because it just makes no sense. I don't know why you would do this. It's fucking stupid as shit. We have a hashtag me too movement and now all the male superheroes are gone. It's like, what the fuck is going on? I don't know. So fucking stupid. I hated this. I hated this with a passion. It's so fucking hard. Short shit. Please no more prey. So we got this moment. This was famously clipped. Everybody's been making fun of how awful the animation is here, but this is kind of if anybody... Oh yeah. It was bad. It just does a little tank to the side. It's like... Yeah, so... To get this like understood she doesn't look like she's there. Is the main thing. Clearly. Oh, it looks bad. Your eyes won't believe it. They'll just be like, no, something wrong. I would even go as far as saying the lighting on her isn't quite right either. The lighting on her is not right. The way that the suit moves is it's just... That is not real. And it does not look good. This is not up to James Cameron standards. No, no, not at all. I think you're right. I think you'd be upset with this. He would not allow this. He would not stand for this. I mean, people would go as far as saying the T-1000 was no more believable. If it was T-1000 fucking rocks, everything rocks in T-1000. Cool movie. I give it a thumbs up. Maybe even two. There was a PS4 graphics. Dude, PS4. I don't know about that. You leave the PS4 alone. The PS4 is just like, hey. Come on. Maybe. But it would certainly have better animations than that. You'd think. Yeah, you'd think. GameCube cutscene? I don't know. Whatever it is, there's a combination of things going wrong here. Everybody can look at this and be like, What happened here? Did you just break her leg? What is happening? We'll have a few more of them as time goes on. I'll probably point them out if I can. There's a little swoosh to the side. So, on the iPad, there's an interview with some guy and the guy says it's appalling that anyone would try to free that monster and apparently the quote is coming from the prosecutor of the case originally. So, that to me is a huge opportunity for something interesting. We don't get to see that. We don't like to hear anymore of that. That is literally the first and last thing we hear from the guy who prosecuted in Neil's case and is being interviewed right now saying it's appalling that anyone would even try to free him, which I'd love to know about all this. I'd love to know what it is, but never mind. We don't even know what a meal like in terms of years or whatever. It doesn't matter. Nothing interesting here. Go away. And she says, you see what they're saying about the case and you and stuff and then She-Hulk says I can't think about that. Everyone in this country is entitled to a fair hearing. It's like, where was this last episode? Because she's right. It's just that I didn't realize she cared about that but they're making it clear she doesn't know. That's good, I guess. Good, good. Sometimes it can cause a backlash, not a backlash. Whiplash to me. So anyway, yeah, she's pulled into her boss's office and oh yeah, on the way she's getting annoyed about the attention but she says, people only care about me because I'm representing Emile Blonski but once this is done it'll die down. She thinks the attention given to her as She-Hulk will stop as soon as she's not representing the Abomination anymore. It's like... Yeah, definitely. Yeah, okay. That's definitely when it'll happen. Definitely gonna happen for sure. Absolutely. Thinks on the internet just go away. It's no problem. That's true. You will just... That's the only reason people really care about her is that she's representing Abomination. Yeah, how was that? I can't remember how she got into that position but it's probably... No, no. It apes me. But she walks in and sees the guy, stupid sexist man. He's here and he's trying to help representing a case that he's making against a person with superpowers. So he needs this team. And he's like, oh no, not Jen Walter's boo. And Jen when she walks in says, I'd love to know what this is about and not work on it. Which is just like... Okay. Hit lawyer. Just like, I wanna know about it but not help because I like gossip. Yeah, right. Anyway, it's about to move on. Some lady walks in as a potential... Melorie Book is her name. Yeah, as a potential to work on the case. Yeah. She's just here. No, she's a potential to... because he's looking for someone to represent the case and he's like, no, it's not gonna be Jen. I hate her. And then she walks in and he's like, I can't talk to a ten about embarrassing man stuff. She could be my next fiance. Cringe. Yeah. No, what I meant, this is the only time we've seen her so far and she doesn't appear up until now anymore. So, I just... Yeah, this is character with name. She might be back later. Maybe. I don't know. I just found it weird that she's in there for like five seconds. Like, okay, happy not to be a part of this. Maybe she meant the show. I don't know, maybe just for the shows. I'm sure she's literally disappeared into a dark void the second that she was done being used by the writers just to have him go, I can't talk to a ten about embarrassing man things. Isn't it so funny how he's such an idiot? Yeah, he's very... That is pretty funny though. I mean, if we're being fair. It's really... So, they let us know that he is in trouble because he dated a shape-shifting elf and she pretended to be someone called Megan Thee Stallion and everyone's like laughing at the idea that he fell for it. Like, it's so funny that he would have fallen for that when they just said she's a shape-shifter. Also, I don't know anything about Megan Thee Stallion. No, I wouldn't say that. No, I wouldn't say why a woman would call herself Thee Stallion when that's about that. That was a viral creature you could imagine. That's one of those things where I feel like a boomer. It's like, oh, wait, that's a real person. I thought it was just like an universe person, but no, it's like a real... full-on... things with people. Female rapper or something. I got nothing. I got nothing with that one. I was like, oh, that's okay. Good to know. Good for her that she got this gig, I guess. I have to address so that what the trouble that the arsehole DA guys come in with is that he believes he's been defrauded because he spent a bunch of money in a relationship but it wasn't who, like, shape-shifting elf, not the person he's dating. And, yeah, it's like constantly like a punchline that he was stupid enough to fall for it when, of course, it's a shape-shifting elf. Like... What was the shape-shift? Once we get to the bit more into his story, we'll talk about how that's absolutely fucking bullshit, but for now, it's not necessarily clear as to how easy or not easy it'll be to win this case for him, okay? We'd think like, oh, that's gonna be easy as fuck. We'll find out soon enough. But the thing is, didn't you point out that it's kind of out of character for him that nobody knew he was thinking that he was dating Magnastelian? It was. Yeah, why did nobody hear about it? He would have talked about that all the time, right? That's true. That's a good point. I remember you pointing that out to me when we were talking about it. Yeah, that'll be very relevant because she says as part of his defense when she testifies that he tells everyone everything. Like, that's what he does. It's used in a way to exonerate him, but we didn't hear about any of it because, yeah, Jen is surprised to find out that he thought he was dating. And wouldn't that be on social media? Everywhere? Was he a famous singer or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, probably. You know, you might be like, well, yeah, but that wasn't the real one. It's like, well, yes, but he's gonna post about it and people will see those pictures and be like, whoa, are they photoshopped? And then the real Magnastelian would be like, that is photoshopped. Yeah, that's not me. So, yeah, you're right. All of that falls apart, but oh well. Oh well. Oh well is all you can say to all of this shit. Yeah, Wong says... I guess that's how this universe works. Wong, when he turns up, says literally the worst possible thing. Fuck, this annoyed me so much, by the way. He just portals into the office. I wasn't about to say, he just portals in and nobody gives a shit. No, it's like he does it all the time. It's like a normal thing that happens. I don't understand. This would be major. You can't just barge into places. This is a private meeting. Yeah. Yeah. About confidential cases. Like, yeah. Living in fear that Wong will just show up at any moment. Like a creature from another planet. Yeah, Wong goes into house. What's up? I imagine that you need a key card to get into this. Dude, what he just did if this were in any way realistic, he would be, I'm not sure. You'd be a fine at the very least. You'd be a big one. Yeah. I just don't believe Wong would do that. He's not that stupid. He's not supposed to be that stupid, but man, do they knock him down intelligence-wise in this one and with stuff that is almost intentional. Like they really fuck with his intelligence in this in the next episode. Who started all that bullshit that he's now that stupid-ass character, even though he never was before. What did that start? Or did it start before that? You could argue there's a little bit in No Way Home where he just says, yeah, you guys promise you won't fuck up with the thing. Oh, well, okay, just don't don't involve me. Don't involve me with the mind altering. Yeah. The trailer line was better. Oh, well. But, you know, yeah, because he was pretty good in Doctor Strange. He's a very serious and intelligent man. But oh, well. Bye, Wong. Yeah. Whoever you're, the skinwalker version of you, we don't like him nearly as much. No. Well, because he, yeah, he goes on to confirm, which, yeah, by the way, just the portals, the amount of repercussions. Well, we'll talk about it more in episode four. Oh, it's so painful. I can't see it. But yeah, he just says, everything Emil Blonsky told you is true. I kidnapped him and forced him to fight me because I needed to become Sorcerer Supreme and that's part of like proving that I can, I have to defeat like a worthy enemy. And then he went back of his own volition. Where do we begin? Where do we begin is a great question. So, I mean, I guess maybe we'll start with the smallest thing first. I thought timeline wise that Wong became Sorcerer Supreme like pretty quickly after Dr. Strange. She became Sorcerer Supreme in Dr. Strange's absence. But yeah, Shang-Chi takes place after Dr. Strange was back. So timeline wise, doesn't make much sense. Wong, what the hell dude? Like what? What? Dude, that's like, this is not cool. That's really bad, Wong. You forced somebody against their own will to participate in a cage fight with you, broke them out of a super high security prison just for your training. You should be wanted. Well, well, well, we're not there yet. You're jumping ahead rags. We're not, we're not quiet up to that part. Well, if we're referencing things that So this is so, well, I guess, I guess to make it clear though, he's just told Jennifer Walters like basically that he's committed several crimes. And she's like, oh yeah, if you could just explain that in the parole here, that'd be great. So I will, I will not, I will not explain those in the parole healing. He says he will. Happy to. So neither of them, the lawyer doesn't know that what he's just admitted to is serious crimes to the point of like, this isn't, I don't even know where to begin in terms of how this works, how any of this would work. Cause like you need to exonerate Emil. He didn't break out. It was someone broke him out. It's like, okay, how do you know that? It's like, gotta witness. Like all you've got to shift the illegality from one person to another. Like, yeah. The first thing, first of all, we've got to get his story down very, very straight and collect evidence. And then you've got to present that to the other side, right? Or at least the, the hearing people. We've got to get like, we've got to get this all right. Like, yeah, exactly. And who can corroborate his story or is it just, we're going to take his word for it. Yeah. And then again, we have to temporarily ignore the whole portals problem. Like, cause that's just going to open up so many more things to have everyone think about. Because they're portals, right? Yes. Um, and yeah. And so then you have to get him, like, you have to tell Wong. It's like your duties are fucking lie to be like, well, you're throwing your life away by the way, you're going to do this. Yeah. Like this, this will probably help a meal, but it's not going to be your favorite. Yeah. You didn't want to stay in New York, right? Out of the cell. Or in any other country that extramites to the United States. So, like, yeah, it's a, the fact that like Jennifer Walters doesn't realize that getting Wong to admit to this is going to destroy his life. Like, it's, it's pretty, pretty insane. He's become very nihilistic after a multiverse of madness. He just, he doesn't care anymore whether, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't care. So why do you, let's, let's just assume that it's true that he forced a nation to fight to become Sorcerer Supreme or part of his supreme training, whatever it was. Why does he get to pick his own opponent for that? Yeah. Cause, cause the logic is that he needed, well, I guess we are jumping ahead, but he later says he like needed a worthy opponent essentially as part of his training. Yeah. Well, whether somebody you ask, well, not ask again, he forced him. So he forced him under presumably threat, I guess. Cause what, what does it mean to force somebody if there isn't like a threat involved? So what did Wong threaten to do to abomination if he didn't come? Cause if he didn't threaten him, then it means that it would have meant that abomination chose to leave. So like the only way that this works is if Wong threatened him into coming with him. Yeah. But if you, if you look at the scene from Shang-Chi, it doesn't look like they were like, he was threatening to them. It was like they were buddies, right? How do you prove this beyond Wong just claiming it's true? Yeah. An abomination also saying, yeah, it's true. It's like, well, is that enough? Would he have not said anything earlier also? Would he have not said that Wong... Oh, sorry, go for it. Surely he would have said that, hey, Wong, this guy who the newspaper says like the support source or Supreme Order has to spell and like took me out of here against my will. I feel like that should be a thing that's known to you guys. Yeah. That's actually fair that Emile never brought this up to anybody. That should be a sign of some level of guilt. Yeah. Like why didn't he tell them as soon as he got back? Why didn't when, when Wong was going to break him out, why didn't he call for help? And why did nobody do it? And why did nobody do it? And it could actually do like a law thing about this. The most important one is why didn't he tell anybody afterward? That's like the critical one that's going to cause a problem. It's actually just broke in chat. Fuck me. I'm not going to remember the dialogue from Shang-Chi, but apparently says a part of the lines in Shang-Chi are like, we've been practicing your, your punches or something. The implication being they've done this more than once. Okay. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say. They didn't want something. Yeah. Probably not. I didn't even know about that. That's terrible. That just, that just catastrophizes this. I've been doing this multiple times. It's insane. This is what happens when you just make shit up. Yeah. And that's actually like peep. Yeah. Peep. Big peepy. Pissy peepy. He's in there. I don't know why. It's not good. Mushy peeps? That happens when you Oh, and also I get something that's worth talking about. This heavily impunes Wong's character. We've been talking about the bottom line. Yeah. What the hell? He threatened. He forced somebody into his cage fight for what the hell? Wong's a tyrant. Apparently with no even, no, not even any reward. He's not like, well, if you do this for me, I'll do this right now. It's potentially jeopardize him being released into society again. Yeah. That's actually worse. That's worse than doing nothing. It's literally worse than doing nothing. Yeah. God damn it Wong. Yeah. I was pretty annoyed that that's just inside to be true. Yeah. He just kidnapped him for his own benefits. Doesn't seem to notice there is to know what the character seems to know. It's okay that that's an unethical thing. They're just trying to manipulate it legally. And we've just been through how legally it just this is an absolute farce. I don't even, it'd be like if you, you know, you murder everybody and then you just go, oh no, I was mind controlled into it by Bob over there and then Bob comes in and goes, yeah, I forced him to do it. Okay, bye. I go, well, yeah, I guess you're innocent. Like what? No. There are so many things we have to go through for this to this. This is a matter of serious discussion of this parole hearing. But oh, well, well, I guess we'll get to the well soon. Well, apparently one things is above the law anyways, because he just demands that he won't be punished in the next sentence. Oh, right. Yeah, sorry. So yeah, yeah, a sorcerer supreme I demand he won't be punished and stands up and is about to leave. It's like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, he, you're right. He says a sorcerer supreme punished, which is insane. Like, yeah, like that's the elected office in the United States. Like what? Yeah, they try to make it kind of tell me why I care tongue-in-cheek fun. But what are you saying when he says that is my authority is higher than anything in your country? Yeah, it's higher than the court of just other laws. Yeah, yeah, the courts of the most powerful nation on the planet is whatever portals. Like if you're in prison, whether or not you're allowed to escape to go to cage matches in other countries. Yeah, long as just I can do whatever I want. Well, and as we see afterward, right? Because Jennifer's like, oh, you got to explain that to the parole hearing. And what is the next thing that he says? Like, doesn't he say, oh, we could send him to the, you know, I have, I have, I have it here in front of me. I've written it down because he goes. No, I literally on screen. Oh, okay. He says, I'm not going to be allowed to seeing that video. And then he goes, I know what you're thinking, Ms. Walters. Well, we're not going to erase everyone's memory. And then she goes, whoa, not again. Oh, he's like, that's, that's, that's not what I was thinking. That's highly unethical. And it's like, Jen, good, good Jen. Yeah, good. You did a thing. You managed to fuck up and say something. A human. Yeah, I just dropped them back in while also releasing a presumed horrifying murder a person. Like, there's so many questions of us, but all she picks up on is, well, erasing someone's memory is unethical. And it's like, good. Wait, wait, that affects me. Exactly. Yeah. And he goes, it's also very messy, believe me, which the implication of him saying that is like, if I said, like, you know, me and rags being chased by somebody and I just go, somebody wants our autograph, so I just go, we could ask murder them and you're like, we're messy. Um, but yeah, you know, the implication being, I don't care about the wrong part, which is what long seems to not give a shit that. This is a no way home problem. Like, specifically, and Dr. Strange was very duty bound and like not about fucking around. Exactly. Why don't they care? Because this one is fun. Well, this is the long that they, yeah, like he's their puppet now to do with as they wish. I want to chat. So like, he's chaotic neutral. It's like, he wasn't chaotic. They made him just absolute nonsense, which is the chaos, I guess. Just decided that's his character now. Without. Well, you know, frustrating. Um, yes, he says, okay, okay, okay, we'll send him to the mirror dimension. What? What do you mean? I thought we weren't trying to punish. Exactly. It goes from, don't punish him. I demanded to find, we put him in the mirror dimension. And you don't want to be in there without a sling ring. Yeah, he says shadow dimension. Shadow dimension. Jesus. What do we, I thought he didn't do anything wrong in your words. This is what we're going to do. I'm glad Long isn't a judge. This might be one of the most blatant examples of like comedy is annihilating his character right now. It's just good God is completely fucked. Well, where's Dr. Strange? Bring him back. That nonsense character might be more coherent. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Just like, I just want to be in the scene. You talk about the doctor. You want to put abomination in the fucking doctor dimension to help him. What you did. Yeah. Yeah. You're like an evil tyrant. He really is. He's got. You should be. You're awful. Well, as we see it right, we're going to continue to further destroy Long. Yeah. She says, I'm going to do this with you just explaining the situation. And then he says, okay, sorcery is plan B. Like. It shouldn't be. You shouldn't say that. Please stop. This will be relevant for episode four. This is just something to keep in mind. Like the ideas, the writers really are up their own asses. They're like, ain't it cool? He's like, I'm going to solve the problem with sorcery, but our lawyer show is like, no, we'll do it with law. He was like, you're not doing that. You're just making him look crazy. That's all you've done. Stop lying to yourself. Because all that we've established with that scene is one will just if he, he will participate in the legal system only so long as it benefits him the second that it doesn't. Well, because I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. Wow. No, no, you're spoiling it. What? I don't know. Well, I don't know. He was speculating on funnies that could happen. Right, right. Absolutely. I just speculate. That's what I'm here for. Oh God. So anyway, he leaves and we go back to Pug talking to our sexist man. Dennis. It's called Dennis. Dennis the sexist man. He's just about. Dennis the sexist man. How much he paid, how much he spent on the thing. His whole scene is treated like he's an absolute idiot for spending money on it. I find all this so interesting. Is the victim of fraud. Yes. Like she. I don't even. He talks about how he like paid off her card debts. He bought her jewelry and the guys just like. It's doubly weird considering that in later episodes potentially there might be a negative like oh he didn't pay you didn't pay for the woman. Oh, that's bad. Well, I just realized because like he spends I think $175,000. Yes. I don't know how much like district attorneys in the United States make. But like. Jennifer Walters is talking about how she can't pay down her debts. He also was a D.A. Worked in the same office, presumably got comparable salary. How's he just got like $175,000 just sitting around to spend. Just spend on a recent. Recent girlfriend. Did he make a lot of good investments or something like what. Yeah, what I'm suggesting is he didn't he didn't do that over a series of years. This is like a girlfriend he's had very recently. Yes. So he just had that money lying around I guess. Yeah, maybe. God. Pain, pain, pain, pain, pain. And then of course so he leaves the room then he immediately comes back in and says I've decided I don't want to do this anymore. It's like everybody who watches episodes like so that's that's the imposter girl then. Think much to figure that out. That's a crime. Well before you say that actually I just had like a one of them brain blasts you know you just go like oh fuck shape shifters are a thing the whole world has to change again. Yeah, everything has to alter to account for this you have to actually have ways of verifying people now because everybody had enough portal into our offices we got scrolls we got as God in Elves we probably got other critters as well. Just yeah just just people being able to steal your voice and face and body entirely like that's just common now it's like you actually need to have things set up for this you can't just let it be casually possible ruining everything and then yeah okay so you throw that out another just huge bop to the world building but oh well this is like wait she's done he's just impersonated over impersonated him to try and get the case like to get his case dropped by his lawyers yeah my god this is this is a very good that's a big crime maybe you think like oh you know what there were no cameras in the room it's his word against her it's fine well she walks outside and impersonates the lawyer yeah in front of everybody and they can easily tell it's an impersonation because she turns back into herself in front of all of them several witnesses you're done he calls for security but nobody nobody comes well it's over you've trespassed on private property using the false identity to get into a private area and then you use that to try and interfere with okay so you're done how could you possibly like yeah there's no case anymore it's clear well I guess you still there is a there's no way of escaping yeah yeah there is a case I guess is what I mean yeah there is only a case but hey funny funny isn't that a little funny well yeah because he doesn't even walk around saying like I love objectifying women or something like that yeah yeah you like how they're parodies of sexists are the same as their sexists like they don't know how to do anything else right there's no difference between the elf just doing like a caricature and the actual caricature character terrible is what this is really badly written pretty painful yeah um so yeah uh we're starting off Blonski's case uh but Wong is like light it's just not yet and that means they need to roll out their other witnesses which I thought was bizarre it's like these witnesses are meant to just be like Blonski's nice which is like that's fine and dandy and everything but we've gotta sort out the whole he broke out of prison thing it's it's totally fine to have all of these other character related things established character his reform like his remorseful that's irrelevant but yes the most important part is my dude you committed a crime while you were in prison yeah there's that little elephant in the room he might call it this is the big problem that we have to resolve yeah and it's oh and also something that doesn't seem to be addressed in any of these conversations is what is the nature of his powers because a huge consideration for whether he's going to be released is um what is his capacity to cause harm yeah especially given that he is capable of transforming as we later find out on a whim into an incredibly powerful monster there's a danger that comes with transforming into a Hulk creature when you're angry and there's a different type of danger that comes along with I could transform regardless of the state of mind I'm in calculating in control emotional was that an alternate personality or was that you you know like that's just not part of the conversation at this point it comes up unprompted like an unexpectedly but who gets that he says about Wong I don't understand old guy was zero commute time is late supposed to be like yeah he can teleport into where you are right now I legit with you would just be like yeah it could be that you're stuck in traffic is why you're late do you know any reason other than that like contact information do you know why humans are late for things outside of commute times and she'd be like what do you mean I'm like well for one they could have just forgot who they could be tied up with something else he's literally a superhero uh he might have realized that you didn't tell him that he was going to admit to a crime in front of a parole board and he changed his mind and it's now a rare moment of clarity and decided this was a terrible idea and fucked off like does she don't have a number to ring because he did give her like a card or whatever right well that's next episode which I probably should have asked for that yeah he's got his email address you know just before he shows up at this really important parole hearing are you saying that Wong's business card would have like contact information not just who he is and what he is yeah he doesn't have any contact information on it it did on the back and didn't even give it to him she didn't even get it she gets it next episode I guess having a life lesson that it might be a good idea to get that kind of information you know something that fucking annoyed the piss out of me even though I think it may be a nitpick it'll be up to you guys we only ever see this from Jen's desk it looks like Microsoft Word and this is all we ever see this page I feel like you have binders full of notes not only to lay out my issue not only is it just a list of witnesses and their role it doesn't have any notes on what is valuable about what they're going to say or questions to ask them to coax that information out in case you know something isn't addressed like the bullet points of what you want them to say she's also just crossing their names out as they go up as if that's like what are you doing this means that she just like she doesn't have any notes about anything she just was like this is the witnesses name she's got binders I have a few issues as well hundreds of pages of documents like possibly no in fact almost certainly thousands for this case she is she's got a lot to account for for this case well you would think that I also have problems with this you go ahead metal apparently this only took her like 20 minutes to put together because that's all we see in the episode it is all we say as far as if you would ask me it's like yeah this probably all happened in like three days and now we're done the way they show us time in this show I don't appreciate how they have why is Wong in quotes the name he claims to have of some reason that's hard to believe I guess I don't know but he has a LinkedIn and everything and people know who he is well I think they do the thing of like it's Wong just Wong like as if not having a second name means the first name is hard to believe or something also don't appreciate how for role all of the roles are in parentheses why are they yeah I don't know why category for that you don't need parentheses yeah I don't know why why did they do that like I said I really know the fact that this is all she has to look at throughout all of these witness testimony things do not have any questions written down that she wants to ask, she's just pulling them all and there's no cross either there's no like digging into the there's no attempt to wonder if they're even lying about anything terrible terrible terrible but oh well obviously she's panicking oh no we're running out of witnesses to talk to and Wong isn't here yet oh no and like I could totally just picture someone listening to us describe this and being like Wong's gonna turn up and just admit to a bunch of crimes is that seriously what's gonna happen yes yes that's exactly what's gonna happen so she's like oh god Wong's not here yet and then he turns up and he's like woohoo I'm here my apologies portal opens a portal into a high security prison no clearance at all no idea what at least he's proven that's how I would have gotten a blood ski out exactly yeah like so how did you get it oh that's okay I like how there's just no concern that you might have tracked you just brought in like contraband or weapons like any sort of none of them cares again like the jury doesn't the security doesn't care nobody just like hey hello Jennifer Walters went through security and this is Wong's source of cream no powers unless you teleport in that's fine no moving back to the elf lady this line is said they're going they're trying to dismiss the trial and she says Runa is the daughter of an elven diplomat on Asgard and now in new Asgard so that provides a diplomatic immunity like because that her father has it um so what's what's weird is the the response to this as well as just establishing this at all it's just like new information to me it's just like does I mean anybody from new Asgard can do anything they want all over earth is that the implication of that because I doubt that's how that fucking works secondly he says the judge she may have diplomatic immunity in new Asgard but we're not in new Asgard yeah like the whole point of diplomatic immunity is that it gives you immunity in other countries that's the whole point of diplomatic immunity it gives you more immunity in other countries that you go to not the country that you're in well now you have to establish if they if this this earth accounts new Asgard as an actual city is it a sovereign state in that yeah who ceded their territory to new Asgard because as far as we know they just kind of crashed there and now they have like their infinity cones diplomatic fuck me but yeah as I've come to understand it it's like when super high ranking political member people go on like different ways yeah you just say diplomatic immunity after shooting Mel Gibson in front of his partner we should watch lethal weapon yeah so I was just fucking blown away by this because I was like my limited understanding of the point of diplomatic immunity makes this sentence so hilariously pointless in general just she could do whatever she wants in the place that he's from that's what diplomatic immunity means what she a diplomat didn't I say that she's the daughter of a diplomat it's like okay sure alright oftentimes it does extend through family members right but like especially if they visit with them but does she have it or does she not have it I guess she does his counter is that she doesn't apply here but it's like well that was a pretty big fucking miss from her lawyer if that's true that's what I'm saying why would a lawyer try that if it's not valid here what's the point of even bringing it up because you know it's not an interesting back and forth if your lawyer goes this is true and then the judge goes it isn't actually this is like this is ridiculous yeah I guess it's supposed to just make it seem like things are happening and they heard the words diplomatic immunity on tv so they wrote that into the script I heard the word immunity I know I think I know what that means and then she says fuck me I hate this so much she says your honor Asgard is not a place it's a people referencing Ragnarok and then the judge says thoughts inspirational speeches are not admissible in court comedy also how does he know about this speech that was a really nice moment it was a nice moment in Ragnarok it was so not how does he know about this I guess someone wrote it down and told everybody about it okay I don't want that to be a thing though but yeah he says my client was defrauded for $175,000 he deserves compensation and then the counter argument is he was enjoying the role play with the elf he knew about this and then once he got bored he decided that he wanted to sue her and try to get money out of it because he wanted to pretend like he was dating Megan Estallion and nobody would be stupid enough to believe that they were actually doing it it's just a relationship gone bad it was not a scam that's the counter argument and already when I was first listening I was just like so this will just be proven by like text history any communications they both have you'll be able to tell whether or not he believed it was real it would be easy that's pretty much it I didn't even know this was a real person until I watched this show but the judge says I must say I find it hard to believe that Mr. Bacowski could be fooled so easily so easily by a perfect shapeshifting picture people have been fooled digitally by like just anybody pretending to be anything and you know like a literal shapeshifter you find that hard to believe yeah like come on phenomenal honestly um yeah the judge says now like basically it's incumbent they had to like establish essentially that he believed honestly like he believed as if because I feel like what you would need to be proving is that this was all role play that claim seems to be more fantastical to me than oh yeah the shapeshifter tricked him I just can't believe it at least right what you can take from this is that this was an attempt to dismiss the trial and he said it's going to trial there is a trial there is something to be sorted out here it's like oh thank fuck if there was diplomatic immunity that would have been like known and resolved before the hearing like that wouldn't have come up just now it would have been a thing before that dude I was surprised if before you go to hearings and preliminary hearings and like trial there's like paperwork and shit like you would know about these things ahead of time if that was actually valid I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in some like high level case Jen realizes the judge was actually one of the the people is a scroll or something and then it like zooms in on her face and she goes double jeff and we're all like that's not what that is and the writers are like why are you leaving that I've heard it it's a lore thing I know it's a lore thing I don't know it's fine it's fine but yeah the cringe doesn't end the elf pretends to be the judge the cringe never ends Mahler in front of a courtroom filled with people now her lawyer aptly points out that's illegal too late you've done it they do the thing like how funny is this it's like you don't understand it's crazy because the prosecution says oh come on this is getting a little old we know it's you bro whatever this is getting old implies that you have a long history of doing this and it is while it was once amusing it is no longer so but yeah that's it you're in front of a full courtroom yeah but that's it it's just a joke you see it even comically running away from one of those policemen is like running away from the alef but I guess to jump the gun it is acknowledged later on that this is something that she did and we'll get to how stupid that is too but just yeah the second you see this happens it's all over already the judge doesn't need anything else now it's done though prison I did a judge, fraud, trespass it's all kinds of things it's like you're done both lawyers are like please stop doing that stop it stop committing crimes in the courtroom please you're making my job very difficult another thing I let me say a thing about dialogue you can tell with just a subtitle what I'm probably gonna say about this the lawyer for the good team just goes this is very good for us yeah like you can't in case you couldn't pick that up yeah that is true I'm glad he was there some of us aren't like me for instance I'm not a legal expert some people are I don't think any of us are really like you are to a degree right but like Mauler and Meadow and myself we don't even know what laws are it's very important that we have someone explain that it's good we're not posing side if one of the the client impersonates a judge in the courtroom in front of everybody not only impersonates a judge but displays very clearly how convincing the illusion is and shows an intention to end the trial like and in conjunction with the fact that she already impersonated your client to try and get you to just close their case and not be involved anymore and then impersonated you after trespassing on private property under a false identity like yeah the elf is going to jail for yeah and all of the laws need to be rewritten to account for this shit this needs to be stomped ahead of time I guess this is something that hasn't been like I guess we don't know the nature of their relationship either but depending on how long and like how intimate it was as well you've got that as an element too it's not acknowledged so I guess we don't know for sure but like once you factor that in as well Jesus yeah they're not going to want to talk about that because the maturity levels of this show are way near enough to talk about that if you were to acknowledge that because that would be just gross but I guess we'll pass that Wong says in regards to Blonsky getting out of his cell I gave him no choice yeah like again no choice that's good for him really bad for you yeah we're joking about this but the dialogue is as blunt as that once he says all the shit that we've been saying he says one of the guys on like the little countily thing there says you realize you just admitted to a prisoner escape and that's a crime what's weird is he says he says I took him up by force but then also says that he told him they can stay and come our touch afterwards so what so the problem is that the show doesn't want to so forced forced means something it means something and when we're talking about the law we've got to be very precise with our language forced so you threatened him if he didn't do what you said you threatened him but the show doesn't want it because of course threatened him it's like oh that wouldn't be good for Wong like if he threatened somebody to participate in an underground fight club well that would be very unethical this by the way is the missing like actually things you could make something interesting happen even with how shit they are if you had a cross some guy could be like so Mr. Wong you describe the action as forced to a creature that at will four times the size of you how exactly did you force Mr. Wong to have it Wong is very strong so this is telling arguments this is something that it'll become clearer as we go forward so one of the really fun aspects of pretty much any law show is the adversarial component of it right the back and forth the arguments being put on one side and getting battered down by the other it is called the adversarial system for a reason like that is the major component of it you've got two sides you've got to be ready for that position and ideally if they're arguing well enough the back and forth will lead us to some sort of conclusion the really fun part of watching like a law show is seeing the back and forth when things go well for you know your protagonist and then their setbacks and then they've got to come up with creative solutions or like dive into the statutes or case law to try and develop a solution to the problem that's like the fun part of law shows this show doesn't really have any like back and forth at all it's feeble it's fun it's not like because watching some people argue skillfully is entertainment of a different kind than this show is trying to be entertainment like it's a much more high brow form of entertainment to watch like a debate in a discussion unfold between two competent people if you want to because I guess we'll jump ahead a bit Jennifer Walters takes the stand to basically later on to say that Bacowski is like he's such an idiot that he would believe that he was dating Megan Thee Stallion it's meant to be like played off as funny but there's no cross-examination we don't get to see that why would we forego the opportunity to see like the cross-examination that would be interesting exactly because he's facing the microphone now I've been playing my video game I so of course we have and you know that's one aspect that you can explore in a legal show the other one as well is to just address interesting meaningful questions about the law and especially when you've got Chee Hawker at superhuman people it's what was mentioned before like in the cross-examination imagine a lawyer it's like what does it mean to coerce somebody who can turn into like a giant like incredibly powerful monster what does it mean to coerce that person into doing something for you is that a threshold that can be reached because a lot of aspects of law is like is it reasonable to believe this happened based on all of the information we have like what was the person's state of mind was it reasonable to believe that that was their state of mind given you know these circumstances that they were in like you can explore that in a very interesting way when you've got people who just have innately different attributes to like the average person because of superhuman abilities but like there's no interest in exploring any of that they don't care like there's no passion there they actually don't care they're focused entirely on different things there's no reason that this needed to have any law component to it it almost feels obligatory that there is a law component to this show man when in Dead Evil it's a great scene I think it's in episode 3 Matt is defending a guy who was involved like in the Wilson Fist like Kingpin stuff and he's defending him because he killed the guy in a bowling alley but there was nobody who actually saw directly what happened and so the argument that the guy wants to put forth is that the thing that nobody saw was that he got attacked and he fought in self defense I can't remember I'm pretty sure that was definitely not what happened but like you know like there was no information to the contrary and Matt goes on a lengthy awesome speech just talking about essentially distilling his perspective on the law and questions of law and like what are the questions and matters of facts that are discussed in a courtroom versus the personal judgments and like moral judgments that society would make of an individual and that's like his closing statement is essentially like this is a courtroom what matters is the facts beyond these walls my client may face a jury of his own it's the potent shit man like god damn it that's ugh and they're missing out on the stuff that they are cheating to get to they don't even want to grab the opportunities we've taught this before when you aren't paying attention you do indeed miss out on all the contradictions of you just rushing to get your payoffs but you're also missing out on opportunities you don't even realize what you don't get to take advantage of you don't know what's there I've said it a few times because I think that it's such a clear example of like a meaningful one what if you had a guy who was like a Captain America type had Captain America attributes who like killed somebody who was like attacking him what does it mean for escalation of force for somebody who's that powerful what does it mean for like real apprehension of like fear of loss of life for that person depending on you know what weapons the other person had or like was the Captain Marvel deleted scene yeah I mean that that could certainly be a case that's interesting like this is really cool stuff to explore because it's something that a lot of other lore shows are just not going to be able to touch on because they don't have superhuman characters like in that you know they're sent into the contemporary normal world you've got an opportunity you squandered it what was the regular scene now because I'm like because the deleted scene was where she outright attacks him right yeah I think the regular scene was just he drives in gets off his bike goes inside and she just takes it because they recognized they'd be fucking insane to keep it canon that electrocuted this guy sorry that's interesting let's move on we're about to get to that fucking cringe ass line fine which one? I know right you realize you just admitted to a prisoner escape but that's a crime and then Wong is just like oh buy an exits with a portal so it's over for Wong Wong Marvel Studios it's gonna be about Wong's life on the run from justice yeah from international justice so it was done it twice right it's done the thing where it acknowledges it acknowledges the lore but doesn't want to deal with the consequences of it because we had it with the elfin court impersonating the judge now we've had it with Wong this one's much more cataclysmic though Wong lives in America he lives in New York and I guess we'll get to that yeah like it's over for Wong well yeah all we need to tell the precious EFAP audience is that it is official Wong is now an American fugitive kinda nuts but obviously you'd think they didn't even verify anything and he's just ran off so can this really help Blonski? the answer is yes it actually works it gets him his parole which he never should have been eligible for wait did we mention that he actually turns into abomination and Jennifer's argument is ah he could have broken out but he didn't it's like what is the point of this cell to be honest with you dude I just don't think it really none of it like I think it's just a false way of getting some like constructed drama right I think they want a trailer footage of that reasonably speaking you know the meal he might be that he's lying about all of this and so he's calculating it all no way he turns into abomination without requesting getting it approved no way why would he risk that ruining everything secondly him turning into abomination freaks them all the fuck out they all think he's about to kill them isn't he in his little cell the point of the cell I guess the cell doesn't have that point it's useful at all well yeah because we get that confirmed as you just mentioned part of Jen's argument is he could have escaped at any time it's like well no you've got him trapped in an abomination proof cage haven't you and it's like no they don't so what the fuck this whole time you was just like hoping he wouldn't run away yeah why would Jen even need to prove that shouldn't they know that yeah and also I mean by the way shouldn't he be in the like shouldn't she put him in the right like rather than here I guess we've given up we've given up on everything it's absolutely baffling this whole scene she's like guys this proves that he could have escaped at any point it's like they would know that otherwise you're telling that this was the moment they realized the cage couldn't hold him and they realized that because he turned into abomination even though he was brought to prison as abomination right I don't understand any of this fucking weird but it's framed and filmed and presented as like a dramatic moment that actually works out for our protagonist I guess it's meant to show how quick she is on her feet that she could come up with this argument even though it's like it doesn't work I didn't I honestly didn't even get that impression at all as well because I know what you're talking about and I think you're absolutely right because of the way he holds herself and I don't blame the actress this is something that they would have had to do I guess but she literally goes I've got her written down as a note she goes I beg you to Mr. Blonski he didn't mean to wait in fact this means he could have escaped when it and I was just like it took way too long to make use of this I did yeah this show is really bad guys um no yeah so I don't believe that Blonski would have decided to do it I don't believe that uh it would have taken that long to spin it positively I think it makes no sense so that's the like plot-wise that's the way anything would be built this way it's all fucking weird and yeah and then it just gets topped off with abandoning the whole system of justice yeah except for that episode when he needs to learn hey what I want to jump the head soon we're almost there don't worry it's really good high security present so um yeah the oh there's a line um when she's leaving I was about to mention that I was I thought you would skip it go ahead yeah well they try to ask you like random me questions and stuff and one of them says any comment on getting your powers from a mafia hit gone wrong that's so fucking stupid why well isn't that isn't it the comic origin is I don't know I just found it really retarded I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the comic origin I thought that's what uh why they got injured in the first place it was a mafia hit okay I don't know that yeah so I want to just say because of the comics I'll say comic origin yeah okay yeah yeah well this is what I mean I that's what I what I heard that because I do I must have heard it from Gary or somebody at some point but I remember thinking like why are you doing that why do you always do this I thought it would be funny again with like a weird thing but I get as we had talked about the origin in the show is like missing the potency that exists in the origin of the comic of giving like Hulk Bruce Banner the choice of whether to give her the transfusion to make the choice to essentially save her life but saddle her yeah with our what might well turn out to be a curse sounds really cool it certainly sounds better than what we got which is that a ship appears in front of her and she swerves in the worst possible way to cause a car accident and then cuts herself climbing out of the door and then some blood seeps into her arm so lame that is a very lame so anyway like obviously her side is done so and so she's in a bar now just trying to chill out and she's like hopefully my life can get back to normal which by the way I will say Legales is a name for a bar I like that that's kind of neat that's like one of the few things I have to say I like the name of the bar that I go to there's someone I'm gonna compliment at the beginning of episode 4 so don't worry guys there'll be compliments we'll get there eventually don't worry guys so their friend sits next to them and well they do banter for a little bit about random shit I don't really care to have a comment just talk about how shit Dennis is I was talking about the other banter but anyway yeah so you have this oh there was another banter I didn't even write that down you're pregnant with the nominations baby I don't care I wanted to write that down yeah he sits down next to me the case with Dennis and then you get this where she looks at the screen and says connecting the A and B story nice I really hate it I really hate it you're getting your own writing and it's not even like a real connection he just shows up at the bar like that you all go to exactly it's not clever at all and they're patting themselves on the back for this what the fuck what are you doing oh cringy oh oh enough anyway he's like how did you work with him for so long and then they explain like how much he sucks and she says it's amazing how he was convinced that uh he had a crush on him when he obviously didn't and then he goes wait a minute would you be willing to say that under oath it's like yeah so the idea here is that she testifies to the court that Dennis is a fucking moron that's their plan yeah and uh yeah as we've said there are so many other ways to definitively prove this but all of them are awful lawyers so they just win by making it a matter of fact that the client is a fucking idiot and so this makes sense the accuracy of males in the Marvel Cinematic Universe becomes a plot point yet again well of course you've got the much simpler answer which is do you think it is more reasonable that he should have concluded that he was dating a shape-shifting elf from New Asgard that it was possible if he was dating the real person no convince me you're a fucking idiot you as gone for alien the ship-shifting alien like you should have just assumed that was the case yeah idiot yeah you know what world you're in I mean as we yeah it just really started begging for the questions like why do we why did we make an extra law division for superhuman scenarios when we don't do anything right into the cases you're right like the superhuman aspect is not critical to questions of the law it's only it's only separate level they just happen to have superhuman people in these cases and they don't do anything they don't have to redefine any terms or have to think about things you already said for example is like what it's just normal lawyers could have done that impressive in these cases for some of them yeah like it's just normal but you've got superhuman people involved that's it he says your opinion Miss Walters do you believe or do you think that Dennis would believe that he could actually pull Megan the stallion and she says yes he's incredibly deluded and entitled he's definitely capable of believing you can pull her all I learned from that interaction is that Dennis is kind of a Chad and that he'll go for a he'll go for an 11 out of 10 even if he thinks that there's the slightest chance and he'll even try he'll believe it himself it's not all that I told from this after a Grammy yeah like a super successful what Grammy award-winning singer like they're making fun of the man for thinking that he would ever have a chance with a woman that's so awesome just like fuck it it's good to have confidence yeah by the way I remember I saw someone on Twitter say that the way that they keep referring to Megan the stallion reminded them of like an episode of The Simpsons with Tony Hawk in it where they just kept calling him Tony Hawk they never even just call him Tony it was always the full name like it was always like when The Simpsons got to make sure references that would always be like and then the name of the celebrity like when you have the rights to a song and you just have to play it over and over and over again so you think you got your money's worth hey look it's Tony Hawk is that world famous like Tony Hawk the skateboarding champion like it really feels that way yeah they win the case yeah no proper examinations so what is making his gospel I guess I believe you that this man is a retard you win that's literally how it concludes it also just shows how kind of like just how cruel these people are yes I don't like any of this I don't like any of them Dennis does call women it because he is a caricature like that whole just see that's different than saying Dennis sucks because he's confident enough to believe that he could date someone like okay Jesus Christ what are you suggesting just a tad mean spirited it's the thing that it's just really mean to do is just like you should know you're laid you should know you're too ugly and this is like alright man jeez you more like Dennis than Jen you more like Dennis but yeah we also then he gets sentenced the defendant to 60 days for impersonating a judge yeah 60 days for impersonating a judge 60 days probably more than that we'll call that first of all second of all that would not have been sorted out in this case that's not even how that works at all that would have been a whole new thing yeah these are different right has to be a simple proceeding that would be the people versus elf lady right for impersonating a judge versus elf lady yeah as everyone in chat is going on just like yeah the 60 days thing I know I'm no lawyer what else can you say it's beyond contempt of court my friend this is like you're trying to do very bad things I don't even this is the thing I've never even had to think about the idea of what would happen if you impersonate just like not good things very bad things probably horrible terrible things would happen to you that's the sort of thing that I feel like they'd want to very actively discourage you doing it because he says I sentenced you to 60 days it's like where you know just say I sentenced you for 60 days it's like where where do you send it go it's right there in the chair no she might just shape shift and you never find her that's right so it turns out in this very small room not going to lie Megan the stallion is just there checking out wait a minute she's not there on this shot wow that's terrible Megan the stallion is very very stealthy logistically speaking shouldn't she be in the corner but there wait do you see like a very bright suit thingy I mean she's hard she's pretty hard to miss kind of like why this was I thought you were maybe she was just out of frame I'm trying to see so that's the ends of the the seats there okay yeah this is not who was sitting this is a different set of people now oh at the back yeah okay so let me compare that with the other image and their defense they only have Marvel money yeah it's not much it's not that much money look out for copyright no I don't dare I for a moment Disney still does want to claim responsibility for this yes oh no she's definitely not there I think I just saw another short yeah I just almost have it I think people don't know Megan the stallion want to sewer it's like I guess she might want to cause yeah there was the whole you stole somebody's identity right like we're only talking about what happened to Dennis but there was also the fact that you stole you know just like there's another matter which that would be like a matter of factors and there's there's another legal case right like what does it mean for like somebody as a shapeshifter like steal somebody's identity like you know like how much of a right in terms of ownership of identity and how does it apply if like I guess if they want to claim in the relationship that it was part of their like role play or whatever like how does that factor into it there's no no we're not interested in exploring that just to clarify this lady by here you can see her in the Megan the stallion shot logistically Megan should be here so she's not not there that's this that's where she should be but she is just isn't yeah quality meme the whole knowing is that you can't go frame by frame backwards in VLC can you not go frame forward I haven't found the button yet maybe I'll see doesn't want you to live in the past that's that's nice of you let's see and then he says do you guys think I have a real shot with Megan the stallion they're like don't don't you do that Dennis like hey let's try but let him take it out on a date see if that some girls are into that I guess I don't know and then yeah and then he says that then it says like probably the smartest thing out of everybody ever in this entire show is like I wish there was a way we could remove her powers and make sure she doesn't victimize anyone else it's just like you understand this is why we keep talking about the repercussions of introducing these things to the entire world the legal system is going to want to have a say about them because you are just able to hurt people in ways that can't even be detected necessarily like it just they needs to be controlled over it it's funny I'm saying all of this because I'm thinking about episode 4 it's like chat you have no idea how could you not think of episode 4 it looms over us like a fucking thunder cloud not going to believe what happens in episode 4 yeah told you episode 1 and 2 those were the good ones yeah it's often times how it works with these shows I knew it once like 5 people start to realize that the show is terrible before instead of 2 months after it comes out so then they say Blonski does indeed get his parole but he has to wear an inhibitor and if he breaches it he has to go back to prison yeah I thought that was we know in the trailer that he does so I guess I thought that was interesting because I don't know that they have that's necessarily something they should be able to do because who knows what it means for his health no how do they condition to know that you could inhibit him without causing some serious damage to his health yeah surely they need that to be proven first and then of course like isn't the whole point that he's absolutely in full control over it so if it's something that causes him pain to not be in at certain points like how do they have they ruled out the fact that he needs to return to the abomination form you know once per whatever if we wanted to get real interesting like we think about someone like Jennifer Walter's She-Hulk is that should she have the right to be able to like is it her right to be able to essentially have that level of degree of control what does it mean for abomination for instance like if this is an aspect of him is this an aspect of him that is immutable and therefore shouldn't be restricted in any way like in terms of legal rights and stuff like yeah it's but we're not gonna talk about that because it's not relevant and we know that he's gonna breach his parole conditions anyway because it's in the trailer so I guess he's are yeah so yeah that's that they will return to Blonski another time I presume I don't care about her interview on TV at all unless there's anything you guys wanted to say about it Jennifer Walter's She-Hulk is a stupid name yeah yeah fuck you Stan because I want to talk about the really dumbest fuck scene ends this well technically this isn't the last thing we see but it's still one of the near the end and boy do they make the point obvious but it's just in line with the arc they're going for anyway she's heading toward I'm not even sure if it's a family house I think it is her house I don't know whatever she's attacked by some really goofy looking people very goofy looking people who have a very goofy plan that they carry out in a goofy way yes yeah I guess I'll summarize it first four dudes who have stolen an Asgardian construction workers tools attack her they all fail miserably because she's She-Hulk and just turns into She-Hulk and beats them all up one of them tries to inject something or looks like yeah doesn't work they all run away into their van and say yeah we couldn't couldn't get it because I couldn't get through her nasty skin and then and then they leave now this doesn't make a whole lot of sense so we're supposed to get from this pretty quickly these guys are attacking her to try and get her blood which is something that they you know in episode one when Bruce was like I have to destroy your blood because even there's a millionth of a percent of a chance that it could get out that would be catastrophic or whatever it's like okay so that's going to be a plot point then I think yeah it's just very focused on it's like so these dudes who are and they say they work for somebody so obviously we'll find out but trying to get her blood unfortunately they couldn't get it because She-Hulk's skin is too hard to breach which is probably something that we're being known with Hulk whether or not you know it if you're going to try and inject her the best time probably not going to be when she She-Hulk in fact yeah probably that first guy who sneaks up behind her and holds her should probably be the one with that syringe so that's a great idea instead that's what you think he grabs her nothing happens until she decides to do something you don't even have another guy run up and do the thing everyone's just sort of too far away to do anything and for some reason the part that really gets me about this is that they're surprised when she turns into She-Hulk when they want her blood because she's She-Hulk yeah so yeah just pro tip for anybody trying to get She-Hulk blood this dude right here on screen he's the one you're going to want to do the injection for because he gets the full on jump on here he can go boop pull the plunger and then jump and run out instead you give her all this time so that she can turn into her superhero form he off she goes oh boy look at this guy with the syringe he's like oh jeez it's like yeah I never would have expected this never would have thought so they're really stupid but then another part that I thought was kind of funny she throws a guy like fucking five meters into the air and he lands in a way of like neck? yeah kind of he kind of like lands on it and he just gets up straight away and walks off and just like oh yeah he's okay they should be fucked up but they're just like oh god it's a punch but she has no time well if they got fucked up that might have moral or legal ramifications that she might have to struggle with we're having fun here because remember She-Hulk appears to be about as strong as Hulk and look at what he does like look at the damage that Hulk can do and you're just like fighting and punching regular people like seemingly regular people anyway he fell so bad yeah that's uh he also got his head crushed into the other guy's head they're all fine they're all fine this is uh wrecking crew which this is like the team wrecking crew they'd be happy with them in this show they'd be happy with anything they ever do yeah well especially if like you're a fan of the Hulk part of Marvel what have you had what have you had so far in terms of like villains well because they bring it back the leader right the guy from the incredible Hulk but in Captain America not in Hulk so yeah yeah big brain guy I'm tired and then the show ends on this shot and again this is just because this is the point of the season that she doesn't want to have to be She-Hulk but she keeps having to be She-Hulk and eventually she'll come to love being She-Hulk yeah what a crisis oh yeah turns out it's literally it costs her nothing and it's only an advantage and virtually every way imaginable but she comes to appreciate that in the end I guess and that's the story god we're still gonna for a shit yeah we haven't done it yet there's a new one tomorrow are you excited this is why we've got to get covered this shit because I'm not doing the full night episodes of one fucking stream there's no way no the brain's not ready for that I'll do the new one tomorrow it's fine four years of EFAP has definitely not prepared me to cover She-Hulk at once did it prepare you for the Torquans? I'm sorry about this everyone that was my thumbnail oh god no yeah stick your ass out and shake it but remember here's the thing women can you could this is fun and it's great and we're having a good time here but dare a man ever even imply anything that is positively sexual about a woman then you will not ever hear the end of it in fact we will the first scene of our next episode might be somewhat related to that a lot of people are posting this scene back to back with the I've been cat called it's like maybe we're going to shake in your ass that might happen well I guess these aren't the same thing right like if somebody wants to dance versus like unwanted attention it's kind of like not related really this is unwanted attention I just find the scene well no not this right like if she's talking about getting cat called or something like while she's just walking around like that's different to just what dancing in our office I think hypersexualizing yourself in a public setting would probably give people the impression that you want to get some level of attention in that regard especially when it's given to you in a completely harmless way from people I would call public setting to the point where a boss sees it and has to walk away in awkward fashions you keep repeating this you keep letting this play it keeps going I got a torture everybody in chat we had to see this you touch on this cat much more than I touch on mine when I show this someone had to well it's as pointed out right some poor visual effects guy just do it what am I animating today I'm so excited to come into work what is my work what's my project for this week make she help twerk nah that was funny no what am I doing like no I'm serious okay hey I'm sure they had fun yeah alright I'll no if you used to do I'll be right back you're way more fun than my last lawyer I will kill for you Megan the stallion that's the episode which gives us number 4 previously on g-hulk ladies and gentlemen a second here you know what actually I wouldn't mind filling my drink back up so how about you guys discuss g-hulk attorney at law Mahler is going to go and acquire large quantities of alcohol before we delve into episode 4 which one is worse you reckon out of 3 and 4 I guess it would become clear about it's all done I feel like it's 4 yeah hmm I probably agree I'm just sort of thinking one thing I would reference well as soon as we see it I guess I'll say I'll remind you I think I was thinking of why this makes it so much worse than anything a 3 could have I'm going to write it down and then I'll reveal it once you say it I'm already back and I didn't know what was happening what was the question number score you made the one thing in particular that he's referencing for why it would make it worse than 3 alright yeah I'm actually because I feel like there's a few possible choices yeah that's why we're having fun guess and I'm writing it down so that once he says that I could clap that inner button alright I've got it written down what we'll do is we'll let him know that when he gets back he can say it what's the worst thing and then we could smack we could push the whopper button what are we writing down I was taking a pee when you decide we were briefly discussing if episode 3 or 4 is worse and Moeller and I think it's 4 and I think and Fringy thinks it's 4 as well and you seem to also agree there seems to be a unanimous decision on this panel on the council that 4 is worse than 3 and he was referring to something that he would refer to and so I said I think I know what you're referring to is what is the worst thing so I have written it down but I will not say it it's a reveal time I think that I would say that episode 4 was the show that kind of as frustrating as the show was being up to this point I think episode 4 was when I started thinking man this show was like incredibly vapid that too that's a lot of things in general though it does because it's got the same continued stupid absolutely ridiculous lore stuff but then there's also more character related stuff that is just I don't know I feel like it's building up a certain pattern of writing for the characters in the show this is a good opening really apparent I guess when I say vapid I say vapid in a different sense to how I guess she would describe the first three episodes I guess she said that those are like vapid in terms of their exploration of the lore but I guess I mean by episode 4 the show started to feel incredibly vapid like they don't have anything to say that this is almost just it feels hollow there's no like artistic sort of maybe there is and that's what the problem is that they think I think what I mean more so is that by episode 4 it felt like it was vapid in terms of its substance of what it was trying to say and do like one division finale or I guess let's put it this way I keep saying rings of power is really hollow and vacuous the reason why I say that is because I don't think that that show has anything to say at least I don't get that impression that there wasn't really an inspiration behind the story or as I think by episode 4 of She-Hulk it's like I see what you're trying to do and I find it really cynical seems like your objectives from a writing standpoint are they come across to me as really cynical so I think that's when it started to become more apparent to me was by the end of episode 4 yeah because it's kind of funny I know bits and bobs about the final episodes of rings of power in terms of what the some payoffs will be but for example I know nothing about Elfman and from the 3 episodes we have of him I have no clue what his story is supposed to be about like no clue it's rare for me to literally have nothing I don't know what in the world they want to tell me with this guy yeah I guess what I would mean is that with She-Hulk it feels a bit yeah it's like I see what you're going for I don't find it particularly interesting or deep I guess it doesn't even need to be deep but it's just the impression I got more so with episode 4 because I oh well I guess Rags you want to tell them all what you are what you were working on there we're having so much fun here I figure let's have even more fun we briefly began by asking if 3 or 4 was worse you said 4 Mahler and you alluded to alluding to something in particular and so I wrote down that thing I think you're referring to and I encourage the others to do that as well so when you say hit it I'm going to smash enter on our little chat here and we'll see if our answers line up as what is the worst thing because as Freaky pointed out there are many answers probably but I think I know which one you are referring to to give you a format it could be like one decision from one character or one establishing rule about the world or one you know one thing it'll be one thing that an event if one could say to cover all bases I think that covers every possible thing just in one thing that happens if you all grab up a guess yeah when we see it happen I'll say that's what it is and then we'll put everyone's guess as well I'll be interested anyway let us begin episode 4 the the the Hulk just 5 left after this one well just 5 only 5 more weeks woo we begin with the magician doing magician things and it's like what are we this guy I don't know and he's like are you not amazed by me summoning fire are you not it's attained is that why you're here good ol the daddy ate her he's like I I need a volunteer but this is this lady who the writers of this episode thought was hilarious he's Madison two ends and one why but it's not where you think she's the writer of this television show I could believe that so yeah he does a trick retains the color and flowers and roses he makes them go from white to red everyone's very impressed well actually the point is everyone doesn't give a shit so he's like mentors like do the thing do do do do the thing and he's like what if I do a little more like fiery things nobody well sorry I guess when he's it's rare that he even gets addressed to the fact that the portals big sparks it's just like what even is that by the way combustible you know anyway he pulls out a sling ring oh no and he makes a portal and it's like take it back whoa he has a sling ring exactly you've got a sling ring wow where where did you get that that will require an explanation I want to know it opens a portal to Dark Souls world yeah to a goblin dimension yeah there's like a head and a cage this is like a like some sort of a dark phantom cone in the barbarian demon land where the fuck is that I don't know but I guess he he wants you to go there he's a good little more on that in a second because it cuts away from that rise we don't know what happened there it's fine back to Catmandu we got little Wong he's watching Netflix he's filling out and portal opens and that same what are we going to say I'm going to say is our portals they should be prominent enough in this world now that people know what those are I guess right so when you go on stage and you pull out a sling ring you're like I guess when you introduce actual real magic into a world the job of the illusionist becomes a bit more complicated because magic doesn't exist in the real world so we have illusionists do the things that make us think you know that sort of thing but now is like oh magic is not only real it seems to be like a big thing right there's all these sorcerers and all kinds of people from other planets and stuff magic and sorcery and witchcraft seems to be real so that must make the job of the illusionist a bit more like oh but we have the real thing so coming to a show to watch you do these dumb things and then you pull out just like an actual magic that's like cheating yeah we'll probably have that discussion when they kind of almost bring that up in the court case but now we'll just yeah because we almost need the show to give its foundation to us first because this shit is so hard to swallow she just she portals into Wong's room holding a heart and honestly I think the closest this show has gone to gore it's kind of surprising yeah it is actually weird when I saw her with that I'm like holy fuck heart in your hand you're holding a heart in your hand nice white rug yeah I'd ask if she knows where that's been but I mean she probably does I mean where else do they normally go I suppose yeah you know last we saw her she was looking at the portal now she's here with a heart and she says what happened to all the goblins she's looking which is like what and then she said I grew up in Fort Lauderdale my dad lives in Phoenix with a new family I go there sometimes then Wong is like no no no no did a cut rate magician send you here you have no idea how many why would that be your first no idea how many problems that creates that he said already but we still don't have all the information it gets worse I suppose yeah we should go a little bit further he says no you didn't exactly send me sent me to a different dimension and a talking goat helped me escape a lava pit in exchange for six drops of my blood and then I kind of it was at this point I realized I wish the show was about the goat man and the drops of blood that would be a lot more interesting she also said she also says diff dimension because slang is funny or something so fun she's taking this all very well though I'm not sure how this is helping very drunk she doesn't realize what's happening apparently I think that's supposed to be the joke or something but still the reality is she's a random woman that that magician earlier sent to go into a lava world and she had to take her heart sacrifice parts of her blood and fight goblins or something sounds hilarious and send her back through a portal that also comes from a sling ring apparently people can just teleport into Wong's room the sorcerer supreme have we mentioned before that the portals create problems has that been a thing that we've alluded to potentially so yeah that's that's like a thing that happens and it's like there you go that's gonna be you know how is Jen gonna get involved and it's like I don't know why wow oh yeah and we start off with a fourth wall break she's like you look happy I guess you saw that Wong is back it's like he was all he lost episode did you change the episode I guess he could have just not come back after he fled as a fugitive from justice and we just don't know what happened to him after that it's just a bit weird to say Wong is back when the episode previously ended with him still it's not like he's been gone for a bit and he's back and that's why yeah because of how bonked this fucking show's order is I really could wonder if this was that they hadn't decided which would be Wong's first appearance by the way before we go here Wong straight up says Donnie Blaze is going to pay for this because she spoiled an episode of a Sopranos to him this is actually worth talking about yeah the reason he's upset because she inadvertently spoiled an episode of the Sopranos not that there's a rogue magician out there with a sling ring who is teleporting people into and out of demon dimensions and she never mentions the name Donnie Blaze so he knows who that person is which supports the line did a cut rate magicians and you exactly which just because his first impressions on the bullshit that's unfolding right in front of our eyes I mean that's enough to say that Wong is being eviscerated in his character it's insanity and we're not even to the worst of it but yeah just in case anybody's correctly following Wong is aware there is a man with a sling rings that's just sending people to demon dimension however that is not what compels him to take action no also I would like to just make sure everyone understands the magician is called Donnie Blaze not Johnny Blaze that was also cause yeah there was confusion and yeah there was confusion very obviously a reference and no you do not want them to ever bring in Johnny Blaze ever that's the ghostwriter guy right just so we're he's really cool they're gonna make him lame if they ever do bring him in they're gonna bring him in they'll do him again in a different way they wouldn't let the agents of shield guy be the definitive ghostwriter they're definitely gonna bring him in they'll definitely want him they'll want to make their midnight suns movie I imagine so they'll want him yeah he had a cameo in agents of shield I know he pinned up in that at some point but you know that if they were to bring him in the MCU they wouldn't care about that I still wonder if that show is canon I don't know the fact that it's even in doubt right isn't a good sign in terms of its status yeah kinda same with Daredevil people tend to like agents of shield right people do like agents of shield from what I understand certainly more than the pissed on shows from Netflix like uh Iron Pistons and Defenders so yeah there's I guess all the Wong is back and it's just like yes to be ruined again and again and again she's like god everyone loves Wong it's like giving the show twitter amma for a week which it doesn't but well no it's not working it's starting to uh it's flagging I disagree I think she's absolutely correct even to a T it does give the show amma for about a week sorry you might be right cause like it seems like they really like the Wong and Madison like team up as a thing they love it okay and people will then be like pretty shit though yeah having this line in here to me it's just like it's not fair the writers even know about all of this how everything works it's absolute sludge parade it's not fair my notes are obviously weak old from when I covered it and now they think about it oh yeah it actually did work because everyone was just talking about Madison and Wong and stuff and I was just like oh stop but it's the same this one will have a worse down form the rest of them people will be like god you have to admit though the phase 4 tv shows stinkers like everyone will be saying that it will I think it's gonna have a pretty the fact that it's received a negative response as it's coming out like that is a that is a departure from yeah well it's the same as Thor right and Thor is never recovering the reputation of Thor is not there's never gonna be a point where people like it was judged too harshly that has a permanently negative reputation and I think this one will too and then yeah by the end of phase 4 depending on how black panther pans out if that's you know however that's perceived like there will be a perception that phase 4 was the shit one I think that I think that's certain hey man I could too know that black panther 2 is like the best of phase 4 it probably I could easily say it being the best of the of them yeah I feel like it would be I guess it would be competition with no way home but like it would be surprising to me if it ended up being as flawed as as like a lot of this stuff but who knows thing as well you know like the whole you know some of the some of the things from phase 1 2 and 3 is like you kind of look back you know it wasn't so bad like I seriously can never think that would ever happen to something like Thor 11 Thunder or MOM I don't know how bad could things possibly get yeah that's good not kind of a thing I don't think we could ever see something in phase 5 or 6 that's so bad that I go man I miss MOM I guess war might stand a serious chance right because of like the scope of that film is going to be insane I still think I might categorize it alongside MOM rather than worse right like there's never anything that makes you go man multi person madness we were good yeah no way yeah yeah I hate it but yeah here comes we're close to the one thing I like in the four episodes I think the dad just pops in he's like good morning yay dad what are you doing here well after the scare you had I'm here to beef up your security and I was like awww what a good boy what a nice dad he cares about his daughter even though she's she-hulk you don't care he's looking after his daughter even though she's a total cunt dad what a good dad yeah like that's tight a bit and then you get he's got new locks cameras and alarm system and even pepper spray what's the shovel for he's just digging holes like it's the it's the only joke I was like you know what I'm okay with that I enjoy the implication that this father is a loving kindly gentleman who if push comes to shove has a shovel yeah like that's what I got from this the impression kind of just like if they need to kill anybody as a result of the attack I guess we can we can bury them a father will kill for his daughter this visual kind of makes it work for me as well just the way he's holding and just staring at it centered yeah that works for me this matter of fact is it's shovel for digging you know how you dig yeah one one point good job never again I will say there is a detraction of points from the scene because Jen is in it you know that yes he says what do the police say and she said oh they said police stuff and he goes you didn't call them you serious that she says I was a prosecutor long enough to know that they're not going to catch those guys like because that's the only reason why you talk to the police if a crime has been committed is the likelihood of the perpetrators being caught as a lawyer that's something that you should definitely also though they have crazy as guardian weapons so you know what I think they're going to dedicate some resources to tracking these guys down you need to let them know this is a thing that happened to report the fucking crime Jen yeah what if they attacked someone else it's not all about you yeah is it weird that they are trying to get your blood that's weird yeah you should probably let us know about that but oh I guess he's uncontactable right because he's in a different he's in a different solar system he contacted him while he was in a different solar system didn't she wow maybe I guess I guess he has his telephone tower on his ship I don't fucking know how that works though if he was in space period I feel like you might you might probably yeah out of range talking to someone in space sci-fi you you lose remember the Blackberry the Captain Marvel Blackberry that can contact her anywhere in the universe oh that's right of course it's like the stormtrooper 1977 dude that was so funny if Yuri was like I need your help Captain Marvel please return to earth and then she looks like she's literally just a bazillion million million million everything's away and she's like right better get going she goes at light speed and doesn't spin up at earth for like 10 trillion like a million of years I just thought unless she does the jobs it's like James Gunn was the only person with a brain who when we're supposed to certainly when we get into like the universal cosmic stuff because the portal jumping jump point things yeah that makes that actually works you can't have it so that you just go at light speed we went over this this is 2018 shit right oh my the Captain Marvel light speed shit traveling that like we've cracked the ultimate traveling technology the light speed engine it's like why are you kidding me please tell me anyway it's cute that you think that yeah she doesn't feel like reporting it whatever it's fine get over it move on I don't even know why they threw that in there just to let us know that I guess there's nothing else to that part I don't know hmm oh interesting I didn't even notice so she's got like a day plan and it's enormous it's like a fuck ton of stuff on it enormous list because she's very busy I imagine finalize Blonsky Blonsky injunction prepare guidance language for Blonsky inhibitor what I don't know that's how the inhibitor works or maybe in the the stipulation of the legality of it as it's written on paper in terms to his use of the inhibitor um order highlighters from supply clerk edit to do list meet Nikki in the bathroom okay schedule summer associate interviews schedule summer associate outings meet Nikki in the bathroom finish runa paperwork with that's not even your case I guess if you kind of help out I don't know buy and read how to make friends and influence people and then it goes so fast it's going to be tough to read it yeah sign up for big and tall membership him meet Holloway enter billables expensive follow up with Blonsky soulmates oh that's very uh just trying to see if there's anything no I'm just trying to see if there's anything worth mentioning drink more water that's good cause that is good actually drink more and plus who knows how wash down all the bitch right how much water do you need to drink to be well hydrated all of it how could this possibly be one day well I mean there's a lot of useless useless shit on there so like meeting someone on the toilet but you mean like stuff that would happen pretty quickly but I mean still there's like a like a thousand entries or some bullshit very busy coffee date find direct contact for Wong yeah that's probably a good idea the Janssen class action finish dating profile and guess what thing she decides to do today yeah she does it very quickly it's very it's really quick it in no way seems why couldn't you just screen cap someone doing it and then just put that on there because this looks fucking fake as shit well I guess matcher is a made up thing for that right I guess it relies on a swiping right and left though knowing what that means interest a comedy cooking music yoga animals and dancing animals see I told you I told you take a bitch to the zoo there's another QR code as well you gotta do it this is your you've made this your thing you said a horrific precedent that you have to now scan all the QR codes I'll take my I'll take my my file here and get that QR code for you lads that's that's okay awesome yeah they play in the interview it's like how did you name she Hulk and then as they're watching TV just burst into the office again yeah it's like hello hi privacy is literally not a concept that I understand and there are no boundaries when you can teleport and I do not respect yours and I'm long since we've got actually a chunk of context for long if you're like wait why is he here and he's legit like I'm having an issue with magician I put magician in quotations yeah also the QR code is the same on this the other one oh that's lame and she's like I did yes and he goes because he's not an actual magician you see again why are you making him so stupid yeah mm-hmm this Charlotte said goes by the day but don't it blaze the very upset about him seemingly because of the fact that he's like showing off not because he's abusing his power you know sent a woman to a deep dimension where she could have died yeah and he's like he's fucking around in cometars and he got booted out and it's like ah why does he have a sling ring here is where I was like okay this is an absolute catastrophe yeah the information we got here what are we doing yeah this was this I don't even know like if we go one by one because like it's just he just establishes this dude failed like the training at cometars but just decided to fuck off and he has access to that was a couple days right like three days I think he says a week maybe one thing they expelled him which seems like I don't know man that doesn't seem like you would just expel someone with like magical training after a few days because they did something bad right well he teleported into frat friends and three keks of something to drink and had a party in cometars that doesn't sound really malicious or bad at all that sounds like something that probably happens fairly often I would imagine with the new recruits let's keep the sling ring yeah that's the biggest the biggest issue they don't even say he stole a sling ring no they don't even mention it and we know it's a thing we saw it yeah and even worse in this scene he makes sure to mention wong does oh this is very dangerous to humanity and even risks untangling the material and astral planes then why the fuck does he still have a fucking sling ring what are you doing wong why are you in the office supreme and not doing shit exactly why are you fucking around with this attorney you need to go there now move him of his sling ring wong has no respect for the law so I don't know why this is the big realisation of this scene he found out about all of the context for all of this and decided I'm gonna go to gen walters to solve this what rather than just go for the first time at least in the blondsky episode he's being asked to stand as a witness to help a case that's him being drawn into the law not so many really cares to do but he's like okay I'll help out a friend or whatever this is him saying I must get the law in order to stop this guy like what no and I guess to address that so what he wants to do is he wants to establish a precedent that no one licensed people can like practice the mystic arts so many questions from this wait that's not yet just after the one the thing I want to establish is he says in no uncertain terms volunteers into other dimension for fun other dimensions so at first you may have been able to get away with saying he just knew that that was something Donny could have done and that this was the first time he had it confirmed or something but it seems to confirm that he knows that Donny has been doing this for some time or some time exactly this is unacceptable supported by the earlier scene we're just like oh was that some cut cut something I forgot the term magician who did this and then also says Donny lays his name so fuck me long has known about this for some time that innocent people of getting thrown into other realms and demand he said other realms dude stop switching the fucking descriptions I don't know what you're talking about realms, divensions, universe someplace else it's somewhere you know and now he wants to establish the precedent but no one licensed people can practice the mystic art so many questions is this not covered by the accords we don't talk about that this is the world building buffet we didn't take no accords no accords on our plate no accords second of all I feel like there's way more pressing important things like for instance sending this Madison to a different dimension with demons in it that's a crime not a crime that could be clearly delineated under any existing legislation but that's like assault gross negligence like reckless endangerment like many many different things that you could get in for like criminal charges putting people's lives in danger and that's really important to you third though creating a precedent in just California it doesn't really fix your problem he could just go to a different state he could go to a tree is there no anything for this in the history of Camartage did the ancient one never consider is Wong never spoken to anybody about this or Doctor Strange how the sorcerers entangle with the law have they ever thought about this Madison volunteered to go to a hell dimension to make a deal with a goat man what could you say where is the goat man is that even she volunteered magic sure but that doesn't mean that she volunteered to get sent to a hell dimension that's what I'm suggesting it's it's too too much to say the least is too much you're hurting my brain with all of this crazy shit all at once and what does it mean by the way you have a license to practice sorcery oh man I went on a whole thing like Wong decides virtually on a whim that we need to get the governments of the world involved in legalization of sorcery and magical practice and execution well good luck Wong do you have any fucking clue the can of worms that you are about to open on virtually a whim because someone spoiled the TV show for you you fucking loon just think about this as well it's like yes I want to establish this not through legislation like on a federal level or you know I guess if you want to do something globally with the United Nations or whatever no I'm going to establish it through a cease and desist in California state law like what it's baffling fantastic and by the way Jen's entertaining all of this she's like how do we make this work well you're going to need it so that you have like an agreement with these people and you teach them your sorcery you have like a contract instead of just being like Wong you sound insane like actually fucking deranged yeah like and I can't believe that my brain is like where's where's Steven bring him in he might be able to actually help at this point you know he's crazy like whatever everyone's so fucking nuts in this universe I can't take it Steven would just go to this fucking guy and say give me the sling ring chop your hands off I wonder to disappear it the first person was put in danger you know like white yeah so um it doesn't stop no it doesn't stop this ride never ends oh man this whole scene is thick it's like every fucking sentence makes problems the point is made by Jen like oh there was no like contractual agreement or anything like that you got him to agree to when you train him and it's like so the problem yeah the problem is you've opened a can of worms um magic probably should be something that's governed by legislation at this point considering how I mean considering how powerful it is that you can like summon monsters and create portals like just the portals alone would demand some sort of like legal addressing by by governments around the world that's what this show should have been about yeah yeah it probably should have been um but that they want to they want this episode to be one and done um and you can't do one and done we're talking about countries all around the world figuring out how to legislate the use of a breadth of supernatural abilities that are incredibly powerful back in dark strange one they benefit from basically being like we're a hidden organization nobody knows about this shit and we fight supernatural beings often in other dimensions like you okay you better even that I'll go as far as saying even that is still hard to keep under wraps forever it's like Wakanda it's like I don't believe you could have kept that secret forever uh and to be fair they admit they didn't there's several people found out about it but that's a whole other thing I'm just trying to suggest that like when you just go no the whole world's aware of it now but nobody cares it's like uh it's so uh yeah she says this is the American legal system no judge will take this seriously unless we do things by the book and then he says oh god oh the book of vishanti I hate that line so much dude so now we're just gonna go ahead go for it so the joke is that one who at some point was a very smart character in this universe things that the book of vishanti is a human guideline to the law I don't even I genuinely when she says we gotta do like a whole thing by the book I don't know what's going through his head when he says oh the book of vishanti does the book of vishanti guide you all like to tell me does it guide you through navigating like navigating the American legal system so he doesn't understand that humans abide by a legal system that was created by humans he is a human being exactly the book of vishanti doesn't exist anymore buddy there's a residence in New York he's American well maybe not an American he was born on earth he was raised as a human he knows what the law is what is this but here's the thing even if I would accept that he's that fucking stupid how would you how would they build a legal system from a book that does magic one two strange thought up until mom was a legend dr strange didn't know about it this is a book that is unique to all of the multi was unique to all of the multiverse yes how the fuck should a normal human being remotely connected to a shield or avengers even know about this fucking book this doesn't make any fucking sense at all she has no idea what the book of vishanti is and he says it like oh the book of vishanti like ah yes we agree it's like why would she know what that is wong why is that something she would have had this is what I mean you need that character to just be like wong you mean the book that has nothing to do with the law that has nobody has access to at all until last week where you got it destroyed why are you talking about wong like what is wrong with your brain I would he ever it's just stupid it's not it's a joke that it only exists in service of a joke that isn't very good wong has always been a say funny line character yalla like yalla whack so wait I'm happy to concede several lines from him have been funny this is not funny this is just absolutely braided personality destroys so many things god damn it wong was character is pretty hardcore to just be absolutely by the book almost to the point of stuffy like stale librarian man yeah by the book of vishanti and then you have him bouncing off strange who is like a go get a sort of smug asshole type who's trying to poke a wong all the time to get him to laugh and there's a big payoff in stock strange one where he finally tells a joke that wong laughs at right at the end it's fun and then you see they get to hang out infinity wall for like five seconds they seem to have pretty good chemistry then they hang out again and say like one line to each other in an endgame that's nice and then it's MOM right that's like their total screen time together and then that's the wong you just sort of comes up in everyone's shows just going hello i'm wong wong's music taste is a good joke yeah he listens to like Beyonce at some point right oh yeah he does this is why people like wong because he's super chill he works hard fun i like wong when i first come to watch and so this is really really fucking annoying yeah because i remember seeing this line in the trailer and i was like oh that's weird why would he say that and now with all the context we had providers like jesus christ what have we done what have you done i've done nothing in your crimes this episode is a catastrophe i really fucking hate this episode yeah this one hurts really bad we're not even like a hypo cringe yet the joke is him not understanding the phrase by the book he just assumes the book is vishanti why would he assume it's the why didn't he say do things by the dark hold then i guess or like any book what do you mean he doesn't understand the phrase by the book what do you think that means i don't even think you need to be taught what that means to know what that means yeah and also because she was talking the one sentence before she said that's not going to like work in the american justice system he's talking about like america and the american legal system stop defending it stop it it's okay they're allowed to try so anyway yeah she says no the book of american law is you fucking idiot and throws him out the building because of course he's insane he doesn't deal with this at all but yeah you know we've spoken a few seconds of wang in this scene so why not do something else stupid she's like i need your information and so he gives her a fucking note that just says wang on it that i'm the sorcerer supreme at this point he's turned into like an egomaniacal jackass as well he's so mad he's mad he picks up the card and then he goes cheap human tricks as though what he just did with the card is like akin to what humans do with magic and it's like bro you are human why does this show believe he's from like fucking bars what's going on they keep forgetting that these characters who are humans with superpowers are still like humans they've been raised here somewhere they're like even though they've got this crazy superhuman stuff going on they're like very normal real people with real problems it's like one of the big core like binding marble things with a lot of their characters yeah i wasn't intending to spend a lot of time on it but like what were they thinking before with i need your information so he provides her a note that just has his name on it that she knows already like i know you i know you're the sorcerer supreme this doesn't help me you might think if you're being generous oh is that the joke that he's like oh yeah here you go i'm helping you out and it's like i don't know the show's aware of that she asks for it he provides it then that's it there's no like no no no i need you he's gone you know that sort of it's just long sorcerer supreme maybe you're thinking as i joked earlier is his number on the back the answer is no nah it's just really worthless just tells us stuff she already knows the literal joke in the first doctor strange movies that he's a normal guy not anymore he's an alien now he doesn't understand humans customs but i hate it so much why how long till doctor strange is an alien this is the pain dimension the dimension of pain you need to uphold america's laws oh america chavez yeah i could see them doing that america chavez she would make a wonderful kind compassionate and wisery of the land and yeah by the way i guess we kind of touched on it but shanti just bringing it up at all it just won't even know your body destroyed well destroyed but what did you probably wouldn't want to tell him right embarrassing it'd be quite embarrassing it's like you destroyed why did you like you ran to it as soon as you saw it right i mean i definitely want to yeah he says yes it's like you're lying to me oh dude i'm already imagining like wander you know she's on her redemption just trying to get back in the good good times with the other heroes and so she's there when this conversation is happening so she knows what happened and doctor strange is looking at her like don't say anything and she's like i mean i feel kind of guilty about it i feel like we should be honest and doctor strange like don't okay don't and she's like okay all right fine jeez don't want everyone to know much of a fucking failure i am okay okay oh man it's not preferable but yeah he leaves angrily because couldn't have to deal with this you know yet have to stop all these rate magicians showing off with stuff that he taught them how to do it doesn't matter of course that he's sending innocent people into that's fine that is acceptable then we get this in the little bar they've got their drinks and their booklets out and they're doing some legal stuff and some guy comes in he says excuse me ladies i hate to see two stunning women sitting all alone and she goes oh well there's two of us so by definition not alone he goes can i buy you sexy ladies around a drinks okay so we're clearly in the middle of work when you change your mind i'll be at the bar walks off and then she says see that guy is exactly why i don't date i hate it i hate it what was wrong with what he just did you are not allowed to even like fucking look at a woman or that's the thing i don't understand where this mindset comes from that like whenever a man approaches a woman and attempts to woo her that's like a terrible negative awful thing that needs to be stopped it boggles the mind i have no clue it took that L like a fucking champion well because he sensed when he was not he could tell in the conversation that he wasn't really wanted but he still left the door open for later in case they were interested and he left without issue and he's a presentable guy he looks really good for his age he's handsome he's got his leather jacket on he approaches them compliments their attractiveness and he's gross they imply he's a gross guy cause he called you sexy i'm sorry i didn't mean to offend you yeah that must be really rough no one will ever know how much you sacrificed i'm sure yeah i thought it was really lame you're in a bar you're having drinks some guy just says like do you want some more company and you go eugh eugh i mean top two buy a melloid melloid someone in chat just said what does it even have to do with the episode really just doing that to that guy it's like not really anything oh i was gonna say like themes of the show the whole thing the whole speech at the end about power and responsibility and you're willing to fuck that i wouldn't be surprised she just kills a few people before the show ends i'm surprised those guys that attacked her that's the thing well they want to bring him back to have more fights i imagine cause it's fun they're really fun but yeah she's like you need to use your she-hulkiness to help yourself get a date and she's like no jen i'm using jen jen is jen jen jen i'm jen jen will be the one that gets the date hmm interesting then she gets one right was it here? i don't think that's yet she's deciding in this moment gonna be jen that gets the date she-hulk is the different thing she-hulk is the office stuff that's what she's decided now see again it's all it's all happening they're doing pieces of what appears to be work in terms of this arc she's now decided that yeah okay it went from i won't be she-hulk to she-hulk is my work and of course now she-hulk is gonna bleed into her dating and eventually she-hulk is just gonna be everything so um get ready for that so we have this part where they're at the magicians place of work i guess wang and jen and they're like this is an official warning to cease all practices of the mystic arts and he says that's absurd you can't own magic you can't trademark a spirit register a soul copyright art and she says you can copyright art yes do you know what i find interesting about that statement depending on how you interpret it they're both correct yes you can copyright pieces of art you can't copyright the concept of art though yes and that actually is more relevant to what he's talking about because what wang wants is to copyright sorcery casting spells wang is starting ownership over the capacity to do this yeah which he can't do that it's not his in the same way that yeah the concept of art or performing artwork is not something you can copyright you can't copyright reacting to things fucking remember that fine friends yeah fine brothers but you can't copyright your reaction to a thing of course it's kind of like the nature of like why is this the case why is the case not to do with the fact that he nearly killed someone by sending a through a portal to a hell dimension absolutely yeah you could destroy this man's life easily by doing that and to be honest with you he should have his life destroyed for doing that shit well i mean it's incredibly dangerous he's putting lots of people's lives in serious danger just to get like an audience's applause so he's a jerk like he's a completely asshole fringy it was to see the look on their faces ah right it's all worth it for the craft you know to impress the audience and make them believe for even a moment that magic is real even though it is real oh yeah i guessed it because it is real he's this whole time he's trying to convince people that real magic is actually real and he was like yeah we know file a pat wong's gonna file a pat no magic it's so fucking stupid i mean magic and then this guy is like what's the matter wong becoming more mystical than you and then wong is like the sorcerer supreme never engages in competition but i get i do magic better magic in my sleep or whatever and starts like preparing a spell and what and jen is like calm down he's just like why are you making wong's why is everyone so petty well here's the thing wong says he doesn't engage in competition but i'm pretty sure he broke someone out of prison in order to fight them but also he does engage in petty competition anyway like a minute later because he's very insecure i'm so tired of every this is what it actually means for every character to be the same like they're all incredibly stupid and they're all petty because petty is an easy way to make jokes isn't it funny that he's like i will beat you with a magic competition meanwhile you look at one great comedy a lot of the great comedy is the contrasting personalities i mean what is one of the most common comedic doors the straight man and the goofy wacky guy because it's really fun to have a contrast between the guy who plays the situation totally straight and the guy who's insane wong used to be the straight man because that was like the gag was you tell him a joke and he just stays at you yeah exactly wong has a very high bar for comedy wong doesn't i appreciate that wong doesn't say anything it's always in his reactions grommet is the straight man ironically he is the straight man he's one of the best straight man as a comedic pairing i've always really liked grommet it's a really fun character a great character design as well like man oddman oh man what's a grommet is some top tier some top tier comedy top tier animation and yeah so they've delivered a season desist that's that i guess yeah but he's not gonna follow it and they go to court yeah well of course they don't even have a case but then you get this really weird thing where wong is like showing off that this ball that the magician was playing with just now wong is like aha jokes on you i put it in my mouth i i find that really weird like in a magical perspective that's it's interesting that you did that but if i was like batting around a bowl and then someone put it in their mouth went i just go like yeah i mean didn't we just get over this whole covid thing yeah hope you brought yourself there alright again just i don't know who this character is i like ben and ig wong though he's a fun guy yeah he was cool he is excellently acting this character i really want him to be oh jesus i forgot this was next oh you mean the meme of a bad date they did this already in the other episode the like shitty manner is what i mean i guess shitty date shitty idiot people wasn't denis enough wasn't he enough we didn't get it all out with him why do we need more no one need to make this parody of a bad date the joke with this guy is he talks all about himself and everything he says kind of implies it's either a lie or that he overestimates everything about it and then the second she talks about anything he doesn't listen yeah just looking at the phone he's like uh-huh that's that's basically it she can just say like yeah i'm shihawk and i'm like this incredibly super powered individual and he just doesn't even notice without implying anything further i do just want it in stoner to what fringy just said yes she felt it was worthwhile mentioning that she's shihawk to him as a shock basically like she's saying things and he's not responding to them and so the implication is i can't keep making increasingly crazy things to see if he reacts and and one of the top tier ones is i'm shihawk and so it seems like jen is very aware that people don't know that shihawk and jennifer walthers are the same entity just something to keep in mind might be relevant not everybody knows and she's very aware that not everybody knows evidently she knows not everybody knows that yes anyway it's really funny that he's a complete asshole and they even have a shot where he looks at the the asses of two girls that pass by and jen's like wow rude because you're on a date with me shouldn't be looking at butts yeah what a bum so anyway the bill comes and they have this really really funny incredibly funny funny funny moment where they're both reaching for their wallet and i think the implication is like who's gonna offer to pay because in the current climate we're in i guess it's better for um i don't know what the rules are am i if i take a lady on a date am i i'm pretty sure the correct thing now is to split the bill that's what you're supposed to do right and so yeah the implication there of course is the what is he gonna try and go like i will pay for it and then she's gonna count with no i will pay for it but no he gets his car keys and then says okay bye thanks for the drinks as if to say yeah you're paying for a bitch lol do you remember a family guy when the chicken you know get on him got so applied about paying for the bill and they got so angry that they fucking fought to the death oh yeah yeah life-mended scene i really like the fight guys so that's that well we'll get more of stuff like that at some point um oh god this this is we're about to get very dense with with things to say about that your honor we filed a complaint an emotion for a preliminary injunction the the court case for all of this is beginning and this image i like my brain exploded seeing wong sitting in court wong sitting in court wong this is like this is like your legal Chernobyl you do not need to be here you need to be avoiding this place like the plague you should you should not be in a courtroom ever i think i said this to you i was like they did they didn't even do a throwaway line as stupid as oh yeah they dropped that that got dropped you know something like that they just didn't mention wait wait a throwaway a nonsensical throwaway line about charges being dropped on someone perished the thought that this show would ever do that that would never yeah that would be that would be very bizarre somebody who committed a crime or admitted yeah egregious crimes yeah yeah yeah things too big ones in front of several witnesses yeah especially if those crimes maybe might have involved the potential death and murder murder by absolutely like man wouldn't do that but luckily the show would do that so i don't even know why we're going on about it we should yeah i mean that's pretty exciting it rides we could get back on so the actual thing still better than not doing anything at all because yeah look at wong out here in court when he should be like it's over for wong interesting i would go as far as saying like this feels like definitive proof that this was supposed to happen before blonsky it does yeah and that they've moved the episodes around because this is fucking stupid did anybody watch the season before they released it just to catch if this was happening hey kevin just real quick because i hate nitpicking too man i hate it but oh man this is kind of odd thing that happens i want to get your opinion and kevin's just like fine fine who's really gonna notice yeah who would watch this show and that's what they think about like come on would watch this show i could totally see the right of saying that's not the point every fucking time it's not the point the legal elements are not the point of this show it's a fun a situation the law is not the point of she-hulk attorney at law they changed the name to put attorney at law in the title like why are you doing this to us it's not fair if they broke or changed very very specific nitty gritty rules of the law i totally understand you established he is a vigilante then put him in a court what do you want me to do with that i don't know what else to say is he getting arrested i guess not damn is it hard to just yeah it's hard to watch but anyway yeah you got your magician his mentor and the lawyer and um i guess yeah so they're gonna try and say gross negligence is what they're gonna try and get him on which is so fucking easy to get him on in fact i almost want to be a part of their legal team so i'd be like guys don't bring him to court yet let's just go to one of his shows and record what happens by the way i already feel uncomfortable about recording him but someone in an alternate it's like can we just stop him can we please just stop him yeah listen her sacrifice in the grand calculus oh yeah i guess was worth she all kept his own like i said this is just seconds from realizing Wong's even here but just like do you have any witnesses to corroborate Wong's like no no no no no and then Jen's like do you want to win this thing or not and he was an audience member why why is this not been decided he's not already here and also they need to know about this the opposing side the spring witnesses are people like this what's being implied here is the this is just an idea they had off the top of their head during court and Wong's like oh i don't like this idea and it's like no no no no that's not how witnesses work you can't do that no it can't just because they portal well i was about to say that's why i'm trying to take this so slowly because so much happens at once yes that happens and they're like we do have a witness and then Wong teleports into a courtroom you know court rooms where there tends to be security and stuff and vetting just like a person into a courtroom he's she's coming from a night club like yeah yeah it's just potting somewhere yeah you almost she almost steps through like as though she's slipping into the like as if we could make this worse Wong opens the portal behind her and thus she nearly trips over it how great is it your case that your client is coming in clearly inebriated with a she's also fucking drunk she's a drunk testimony is going to be very worthwhile her drunk that's one thing i actually check that apparently according to multiple studies drunk people are not necessarily worse with their stuff they're just less detailed but the basics are basically the same which i found interesting something that the prosecution wouldn't want oh absolutely i'm still horseshit that he's she's not here already it's actually down the list of the main problems because i was interested if they would if that that would be allowed in general if you if you could i would imagine not here people well i would just if we're a part of the prosecution i just like don't have a fucking when she's drunk who knows what she'll say let's put this out to what nightclub is open during like daytime in the court like the hours of the court's going to be uh in session she's on the other side she must be on the other side she's a different country so i don't fucking know yet like just teleporting teleporting people into different countries i'm sure that that has no legal ramifications whatsoever you know what's really funny is if she was just asleep they just drag her out they're on to the steps yep or she's in the shower or she's on the car what if she was in driving somewhere like yeah she could have been taken yeah it's like oh i guess that's the end of your case like you don't even have any witnesses to help you like imagine if she said no well to be fair she even it doesn't work right her testimony gets the uh the case considered bullshit because she says it was fun and spooky yeah which is fucking insane the witness gets to confirm like the whole adventure through the demon world but she said it was fun and spooky so the judge is like well fun and spooky yeah i couldn't like what are you supposed to do with this in terms of like steaks how can you possibly why would anyone compliment this show why would they hit me like that and again like it's not there like you teleported someone to a hell dimension how much someone into a hell dimension just because they were like oh that was fun it's like ah yes so all is forgiven all is spider daddy in the universe then you open a portal to a hell dimension what if monsters came through the portal that would be crazy that would be crazy if that happened in front of dozens of people hell dimension and all those creatures you know how they are not to you know but you know how they are those hell denizens they just want to go to other places you open up a portal they start pouring out and then you just like leave the portal open for extended periods time that would geez can you imagine I mean madness people can get hurt kind of that she says I made a pact with a demon and I can't discuss it in a courtroom I made a pact with the demon and he promised not to reap my soul and the souls of my family as long as I don't speak about it I like how is the judge not throwing this drunken idiot out you know what I mean yeah because the judge doesn't even seem to buy into like the magic like a real magic system right like she seems to be like resistant to that even though she just portals someone in exactly you everyone knows magic is real this one yeah you definitely can't get away with it at this point yeah and so yeah so were we taking a testimony as truth or not when she said she spoke to a demon that threatened to take her soul the souls of her family like are we what is the judge make of this yeah and then you have the fact as well there's no cross he says all of this shit and it's just sort of like they were waiting for what the judge might end up thinking about it mm-hmm which again is so far down the list honestly well I mean remember remember Wong is a fugitive from the United States government and here he has an open court yeah and he says like I moved to dismiss because Donnie's performance was clearly fun and spooky and he says the sweet spot for magic in my professional opinion I was legit sitting here like what about the part where he threw her into a demon dimension are we just not talking about this many many witnesses that you could have called forth from that show yeah he didn't get any of her jobs so is Madison the only one that lived in terms of the people he's been sending to the demon dimension because um I feel like that's a back toy that might get him in trouble yeah cause if he sensed multiple people that would be a question have you ever done this before it's like yeah well I mean you can't be lying about that it's like yeah and you sent them to other dimensions do you know if they're okay do they come back and here's the thing right even if she agrees that it's fun it's like whether she thinks it's fun or not if he put her in danger negligently that's it yeah but if you retroactively say that it was fun it doesn't change the act at the time yeah what if she didn't find it fun she didn't consent to going to a hell dimension but it was fun and spooky it was fun and spooky um the guy says you cannot do what they're trying to do and then uh because that's just magic is protected and she says no that's for card tricks and disappearing women who never speak this is very different because the mystic arts is in fact real magic like my fucking jaw drops real magic in a courtroom you just said the terms real magic what the fuck is that what does that mean to the law what the hell is going on real magic another path where this could be interesting where it could become interesting because now we need the distinction between magic things different magic like we have show magic then we have mystic arts magic witchcraft flimflam magic whatever there's so much different magic so now you have to differentiate between all these ones and then you have to go even further it's like oh which which magic is harmful to humanity which one could be used for I don't know healing which one could be used just for I don't know utility or something you have to define all these things now because you're just introducing all these things to the law but unfortunately we're just tying into a a little joke it is really really funny though it's really all of this world building destruction it's worth it because this is so fucking hilarious that it's worth it we need someone to decide now which magic is allowed basically in which one is dangerous at the point where if I were the fucking judge I'd just be like I'm sorry who's the arbiter of what is magic versus fake magic and real magic and then one would be like well me I guess and it's like Ryan fugitive of the law yes the arbiter of magic I think it never gets old calling one fugitive from no one fugitive Wong that's his new Marvel character yeah being pursued by an evil superhero who is also an attorney at law and is mistrial it's like Wong supreme Wong superior Wong fugitive Wong we need definitions for wizards and sorcerers and whether or not the hat is the difference exactly like legitimately at this point we actually need that because this is so dumb I don't even know the fact that she tries this shit again to me displays how much for shitty lawyer she is like you're on it you have to understand we're talking about real magic here it's like does she think that this is just something she can say and it'll just suddenly be preceded like it's as simple as that she sure thinks that yeah and then of course he does this thing where he fucking activates a smoke bomb that's his clothes in court yeah this activates explosive device that was dropped at the security from him oh that's shade it's like how did he get that through it's like yeah how did he get that through also you're under arrest setting off an explosive device in the courtroom yeah once again the prosecution doesn't recognize the opportunity they had right there but oh well yeah she's not very good at this and then Wong says oh he says the line places us on the edge of a precipice yeah the edge of a precipice this places us on the edge of a precipice the unkind use of this power could lead to a destruction of the known and unknown universe then fucking take it away from him you fucking idiot if you're gonna try to make that play you should be like trying to make the case on the basis that his use of magic is like dangerous to all life not just individuals who get sent through portals but like his inability to practice magic effectively threatens the lives of everybody in the universe which at that point it would be a much bigger deal than what this case is right now and then it's just like at the point where this whole case is Wong is just trying to appeal to this to destroy everything it's like why didn't you bother trying to prove that why have you guys not focused at all on the important part he's opening portals to demon dimensions okay we don't care if Madison with a why had fun that's really not the point it doesn't matter if she had fun who cares if he's endangering the lives of everybody on earth and then so they say like you'll have my decision in three weeks and she looks like well can we still stop the defendant from engaging in this dangerous behavior until you've made your decision and the judge says no because you can't do that it's his work also Don and Don Emacs like the whole speech audience is like oh this is my thing and there's like bad magic tricks and then the judge is like okay yeah it's fun if she says stop throwing smoke bombs how did he get those two to cure like that's what you mentioned earlier and he just brings a rabbit yeah he just doing magic spells in court like what are you doing there's a procedure here we need to address the fact that like someone might be like yeah but it's just a big clown show and it's just like why do they appeal to any sense of anything in this show for the law if you want me to believe all of this is supposed to be like Teletubby's level which is more coherent by the way it is definitely more coherent yeah she says he should be allowed to practice his livelihood of opening portals to dimensions that have demons that eat souls like I she could say no she could say no even if it's his livelihood she could say no of course if the point is that he's endangering lives like surely like we know it's his livelihood but we think it's dangerous and then Wong because this is in character at this point says can we send him to the mirror dimension I forgot about that what are you doing Wong that's a crime Wong now it's not the time to be making these suggestions you can't just send people to the mirror dimension because they annoy you he probably won't even die he probably won't probably won't even die it's like it's the ultimate destruction of his character again and again it's fine he probably won't die that's true it is really funny and there's no like why should I feel this way Wong if you feel the universe is at stake go get the ring man go get the ring man should be easy he's like real people sorcerer you're a super duper sorcerer so I can't fix it but Jen Jen is like working on a dating profile and she's sad she's not getting the results she wants from the speed there's no way there's no way no way not only the way those dating apps work but also there's still probably a bunch of a lot of people who know that Jen Walters is She-Hulk and alone on that basis you should get a bunch of why would she not be getting any dates whatsoever yeah exactly do you think that there is something to be said was that I was just saying you don't even need those are the factors to play into it no no just yeah go ahead I'm curious if there's anything to be said about the idea that knowing that the prosecution or whatever the other side of the legal aisle right is She-Hulk an indestructible you know superhero creature that would probably be just called you know Hulk adjacent essentially if that in and of itself would be like well wait so is that like its own form of would that create any issues that someone inside that courtroom that is taking a side in this proceeding has that kind of power and is unstoppable essentially I think I mentioned that once before the show started it's like I guess that might well be a court case in and of itself is like She-Hulk as an entity is incredibly powerful what implications this is having just the way that she like conducts her job and her business especially in like yeah and if she's a DA she's a federal employee right so she's acting doing all this as an agent of the state does that add an extra layer of all I guess now yeah okay but I mean that's the least of like we can we can we can move past that like you know that can that can disappear if we can if the show doesn't give a shit well goodness whatever should I that seems like a much less clear cut thing and the show doesn't want to deal in like any sort of if we move past that to just go to other I guess more meaningful things we can do that but with us so of course so that she's not getting the results she's wants so she turns into She-Hulk makes a She-Hulk dating profile looks at the camera and says I'm not proud of this and it's like but Jen like didn't like everything you've been criticizing yeah well yeah that's true shouldn't seem to try very long and also I just don't believe she wouldn't get any matches yeah and then she realizes oh boy ding ding ding ding ding ding she's getting all kinds of results and unfortunately with the way the timeline works I think we're supposed to believe this happens over several days I really I don't know every time she's in the same front I think that's more of a way to read it is that she's scheduled like six dates for one night but I don't know how that works like logistically like did she give them each an hour or something a lot I thought it was one of those like big thing like what's that movie pitch where he does like you just like swap places and you get like 15 20 well I guess not because he tried to pay the bill at the end so that's weird I have no clue her arranging dates on on a like match or whatever it's called so it's not speed dating at least it doesn't see yeah she stays in the same spot and they cycle in and out well that's how it works and like you usually have one person who sits in the same chair and then someone I guess what I'm saying is like this isn't speed dating she got dates on on the tier equivalent one night presumably or they're all different nights but it's the same restaurants who wears the same dress right well we get we get a speed run of people that the writers hate that's some good way to put first one is guy who likes the fact that he's really strong he's like I can I can dead weight dead lift 600 more so than she is she's like I can lift 600 and I'm not even he asks he asks her he goes out of his way to ask her about he immediately pivots to talking about himself like he's self-centered that's like the point it's just I don't really I guess I'm not I don't know why you would care to ask her if like he doesn't care like whatever what a response is I guess I don't know I I think it's I think it's really tough to say I mean I guess I know what they're trying to do but it's it sounds like a very awkward way to try and put that across cause the part she didn't like was when he aggressively asked their order taken back that he's like I'm pretty strong I think they're gunning for like this guy's toxic about his about his because she already gives up on the date like the second that he calls for the orders like okay next guy is I'm making a movie about a guy who's into constitutional law and that's how he becomes the vice president and that's it by the way that's it not you fucking L look at the movie thing again they all just let him I realize now at this point that it's a genuine infection that comes in whatever someone starts it long enough or if they're bored I don't know if it's just Chad is bored what's going on what's the beginning it has but sometimes that was like a full screen of him we got some hyper cringe on the way Chad you enjoy while alas anyway I just thought it was interesting that he just explains that and they cut to the next guy as if like well that's clearly a loser talking about the film he's making imagine making a movie because you enjoy the craft of filmmaking and you're excited to tell people about it on a date wow what a fucking loser I don't know like all I have is one snippet of a conversation where he's talking about himself did she ask him about it or did he bring it up himself because he wants to talk about it that sounds like something that would just bring up it's fine to talk about yourself maybe the movie doesn't know that like that's a big thing in his life like making a movie like making a film it's a passion he cares about like I guess the film I guess the shows I guess the thing that I'm making fun of is that like he's sort of talking about like this stupid I mean isn't this like hilarious though he's talking about his stupid law movie in this stupid law show it's kind of funny like isn't this ridiculous that he thinks he knows anything about the law as ordained by us who wrote this show do you think that's more lamp shading but more meta I don't think it's cool I don't think I know what they've done there that's a mistake I guess I don't even know what to believe anymore that guy is like all into talking about all of the different like powers and attributes and stuff I get the impression that this guy is one of the guys in that wrecking crew like that he's that we'll see him again well either way he fucks up when he refers to her as a specimen yeah funnily enough triggered a memory I'm pretty sure the guy in Winter Soldier in like the little convenience store thing that they're in he refers to Captain America as a specimen I'm pretty sure that Scott calls our a specimen when he wait no he doesn't wait does he I think he does when he meets him at the airport doesn't he call him a specimen you know when he's like oh Captain America I'm shaking your hands too long and then like he plants his hands on his shoulders I think he calls him a specimen well either way I don't remember the guy I'm talking about he's got like really long hair you help them they were on like the laptop and I think I think Black Widow says look at you too you're like brothers and then he goes I wish specimen yeah maybe that's where I mix him up I definitely remember that one anyway whatever that guy obviously he fucks up too and he says that and then he's like gosh isn't dating in your 30s horrible is there anything worse than dating in your 30s and honestly I mean true I can't think of anything that could be worse and especially in the Marvel Cinematic Universe I could be worse than dating in your 30s wow dating in your 30s hellish our last match handsome doctor man yeah and he says all the perfect things and he's perfect perfect perfect man he's just perfect it's almost boring to talk about because of course we went from like just like embarrassing caricatures of humans and some of them are not like the movie guy there was no way near enough in there to be critical of him that was just weird like that conversation could there probably was longer actually the original version but they just helping everything down and so yeah perfect man she's talking to him for a while and then we cut back to good ol mr. he's here he's about to do something really stupid well he opens up a portal to somewhere just normal and it's like lame my friend ended up in some parking lot I'm not getting into that hole the implication of course being that he's got to do something more eccentric than that now what could be more eccentric than a car park well maybe like the Taj Mahal or something let's go to hell or like hey Mount Everest Disneyland even you got a lot of options for interesting places that you could teleport somebody that would be mad if you took him to Disney World fiery demon pit well not quite borns a bird that lands on your hand and drops an egg and then he seems to be disturbed by this and she sees that the egg is hatching and there's a little demon in there but he's a little cute demon and then he goes oh my goodness so he's like don't you worry donnie blaze has got this and so he opens up a portal to a demon dimension and kicks the thing in there and it hits the bird and they both land in there why did the pitch now is weird I don't know I don't understand you're all according he's like all part of the plan and he doesn't close the portal to the hell dimension he just leaves yeah he's very good if he had closed it immediately which we know he knows how to do everything would have been fine instead he just leaves it open for ages and then the initial demon jumps back through and then loads start coming in oh my goodness the cease and desist is now the least of donnie blaze oh my goodness you got closed that door are you trying to air condition the hell dimension it's over it's over for your boy donnie blaze he's just unleashed a bunch of demons on all these innocent people it's over for donnie blaze the cease and desist not even part of the equation he'll be lucky he'll be lucky he ever sees the outside of a cell like outside world ever again he'll wish he jumped into the portal to the hell dimension and then maybe it's actually a really nice place and this is just how they say hello portals to wong he says help me i screwed up wong like what did you do and he's like the little thing comes through wong hits it with some magic and then wong before leaving to go and help stop this thing from being whatever it is for you i'm doing it for the universe wong hurry up why would you need to tell him that yeah it's fucking good what is it with you yeah like why would you care to let him know why you're motivated to help what like help just help and then the guy says is there anything i can do and wong says contact my lawyer like not call dr. strange no don't call him call people who are openly doing hero work any kind of montage or anything like that no don't call them for help call she-hulk that's who you need to call right now the person has no combat experience whatsoever who is your lawyer that you met briefly who also probably doesn't want to do this there's other people also just like you have a bunch of demon bats she-hawks probably don't like your best choice for dealing with that she'll be good on more like one-on-one encounters or like a couple of big guys but like yeah demon seems like yeah you get some but yeah whatever yeah he's in that room but he's flying back he'd close that portal behind uh he'd close that portal behind wong and flee into the pool yeah we're the best choice river this bye yeah anyway uh we have the dating scene is back he's incredibly understanding and he says like tell me more about how you feel and it's like oh see he cares so much about everything she has to say and I find it funny funny right whenever one of his dates was talking about their life their interests themselves she's like this is the worst person ever and when someone only makes it about her they're the best person ever yeah there's no balance the best is when someone shows interest in both themselves and you and the way you two can benefit each other not just someone who goes I want to know what you think about everything because you're the only person the baddest in the whole fucking world the thing that is funny though is that both times he asks her about her we never get to see what they talk about it cuts away or he talks about something else because the first time he's like I want to talk about you also food situation can we sort that out first and then in this one like he says yeah tell me more how you felt but then when she turns off the phone is like oh this is a great day it's like so how much do you really care what she thinks exactly but she thinks it's a good day because he keeps asking about her and she loves that I don't know if they do this on purpose or not you are characterizing here and I don't know if you realized but uh yeah he says I hate the speed date app thing everyone treats you like some soulless avatar on their phone is like what it is yeah also she she's like oh I can't believe the fucking weirdos swiping right or left like this is what both of you did to meet up you both are engaging in the thing that you find so distasteful that's how you got here assessment when it's just describing even the people who make the fucking apps will be like well yeah the fastest way to get two people together to start trying to see if it can work this app is supposed to be a detailed essay of exactly who you are as a person and why people should date you it's getting and to be fair nobody wants that shit they want to know what you look like they want to be like alright I'll give you a chance I guess like that's how it works you both do that you both did that so like I don't know if the show wants you to think that yeah they're so they're clearly so uh you know like they both did it but they're both commenting on it as if they didn't want to yes this is all interesting considering what happens next well yeah this um uh so so phone goes off and obviously she wants to ignore it because it's uh donny blaze fully enough calling her um yeah I don't know maybe she would because oh no she probably wouldn't actually no because she can't like like if she's opposing counsel in the case she can't just be like talking to him without his lawyers it's like not the way that it works she would have the lawyer's contact information she wouldn't have his phone what's that metal no there's no way she would have no hello oh I think rags by rags I guess she does though hello hello it's I cannot hear my internet board is having a tism hey yes it is Singapore Singapore has that fixed the problem Singapore there we go is everyone back I'm back so yeah that was odd all I was saying was she wouldn't have his phone number um she can't talk to him well and I was going to say the fact that he's ringing here should probably be enough to actually be like wait why the hell is he ringing me yeah exactly why would I mean yeah anyway the wine is spilled on this poor guy you know and the worst thing about that is that it makes you got to take that shirt off so he does wants to get like cleaned up and while he's gone she hides his shirt so he can't put it back on that doesn't seem like the kind of thing that wine would be okay can you imagine oh can you imagine oh here's my chance to make sure she can't get her shirt it really is like double standards the show yeah so anyway Wong opens the portal up and he's like Miss Walters why aren't you answering your phone with as an image I just can't handle it I'm just like why the fuck are you contacting her you idiot there are so many better and he's like oh I see you're currently in a position to help save the world now I'm just like oh I see why what do you mean you see do you think she's gonna save everybody from the demon army you don't care what she's up to you want to grab her and get her in here why are we taking to where's Doctor Strange Steve help me where did I want you back he says Donnie Blaze opened the wrong portal I need your help it's one of our greatest urgencies like okay I'll be right back and then Wong's like oh I feel like your dad okay are you joking people are getting dragged away right here whatever we'll get there no actual demons Wong I've been fending them off I have to repair the portal wish to be felt so video gamey like you and she have to punch 20 demon bats to death while he's just spinning his hands around in this little loading bar I am repairing the portal okay it's really awkward because when he starts doing it it takes like two seconds what when he actually starts doing it yes you're right they're all just pouring in still by the way kind of nuts first things first close the portal that would be a great idea they're incredibly lucky to find out that all the bats are trying to escape into the world they just can't unfortunately yeah just coincidentally there's no way the bats can get out they're stuck on the doors and every exit is sealed like wow even though there was a huge crowd of people in here that ran out so they went somewhere did they close the doors behind them I guess so and none of the creatures got through these creatures by the way are immune they're immune to huge hulk stomping on them yeah my god they just they just flume goop all over the place demon goop sledge if you will him and his mentor are like crawling around the area hoping to not get killed while she's like gradually throwing one or two in at a time wong then closes the portal finally the door won't the fuck took so long to then convert the energy into a whip and it's like oh okay and he starts like spinning it around and they have a shot to show Donny's like really impressed like oh wow look at the magic he's doing the whip like grabs one demony thing and he throws it in like man if only wong had like an ability with this portal that could just give you all of them in seconds what you're talking about is insane I have no idea what you're talking about but what I was going to say with the knowledge we currently have why not move the portal around and just throw them all in that way you know I'll be a good idea and she's like after so many bad dates I finally meet a guy who's sweet and then he's like focused and she said he's super hot but that doesn't matter but it does like god damn it that is a bit I think it's a bit oof for the for this show yeah but yeah now they're getting real big these things they're getting big enough to be able to just push her around and she's a fucking she-hulk so who knows how big they get yeah a bit of a worry she's still tossing them into the hole wong is helping out just waiting for it to happen there we go wong starts up a spell that just sucks them all in instantly no problem and it manages to even it sucks them in where it doesn't do anything to human beings yeah man should have maybe started with that one maybe that might have been a move that means he wouldn't have needed her at all exactly that was very easy I am back what which part are you guys on right now we're just talking about how he used a spell that dominated these creatures right at the end was this one oh the whirlpool the whirlwind thing where he spins it and sucks them in oh yeah I would have opened with that one but that was a police at my door quick tangent don't worry I'm not in trouble so the police were at my door and someone I guess out in the parking lot had parked their car in a way that blocked multiple cars from being able to leave their spots and so they're trying to track down who this car belongs to so that's a thing like yeah fuck people I can't even imagine but yeah this scene is terrible however are we gonna do the thing the thing that we mentioned earlier about the give the reason I was thinking about it and I was like I shouldn't just stop it the second we reach whatever the thing may or may not have been so we've gone past it for sure at this point so now yes it would make sense to see what are you three's guesses on what my my primary issue with the episode was in terms of you've broken it so hard now hit the button yeah was that right did I match so that's a that's a pretty good one and it's in the it's in the realm wait what are the other two's ones um wait I still don't understand what exactly we're doing right now I I said what's the thing that made me say like this episode is categorically worse than the first three for sure um why don't you go metal I'm typing it out you might as well just tell us now the typing thing was so that we could reveal it all I'm sorry nobody else it's fine I'm glad you did Mahler I only explained it like 300 times it's fine whatever it's all good I'm just glad that we're here having a good time we got chat talking about media that we love no we don't what's your answer metal I'm waiting for you probably just the destruction of Wong and overall world building issues it's like you didn't even listen one thing it was just one thing I would say there are two candidates in my mind so I'm gonna have to toss them up and figure out which one I think there are two choices and I'm gonna go with this one when Wong created no no actually it was when Wong showed up in court that was that was the one it was when Wong showed up in court um so funnily enough that would probably be my number two actually rags is close enough to number one though question is that the world of this I thought the implication is that just another universe or something I was just hoping no one lives there when they started throwing presumably here's the thing if they wanted to make it clear that it was another dimension we've shown the kind of backgrounds they can make why just make it it's just a mountain range a very earth like mountain range yeah like I wouldn't say it's impossible that it's earth it could be but I think to be good faith we should assume it's not earth otherwise you're right that would be fucking but no really it was just mechanically there is a man running around with the potential to end earth by letting a demon army just invade at any point the power of his casual sorcery that was uh that was the thing that actually just broke everything to me is that it's bad enough that the portal technology is something that nobody's going to acknowledge but he could just he's got the power to like cause the Chitari invasion and he just does by accident all he has to do is open a portal in space and open one in the atmosphere and the atmosphere is sucked out into space yeah it's actually there is how how misunderstood I was with the task at hand imagine if he opened a portal to the core of the the sun like yeah see this is the world if someone said do you think that's earth or not I have no idea they look a bit fantasy-ish they do look a little bit fantasy-ish but I still agree with the criticism that you should probably make it look as like far away from thinking that's earth you know get it nice and not earthy because yeah if it were that he just tossed it to another part of it that we fucking hilarious yeah that's true he should have just spiral vortex the demon portal but he's a dumbass if you take them anywhere then like send them back they were incredibly lucky that they didn't just pile in and it would it nearly ended today it was like the end of the tomorrow war that big big avern full of buggy boys they blowed it up that's true they did that's a great movie guys it wasn't political hey it would be considered political it would have to yeah oh my goodness wong uses a vortex to suck them all and it's like why didn't you lead with that and then we come to oh man so like donnie blaze and his buddy are sitting there and jen is like so before I send this demon monster thing through the okay I wish I had a solid impression of the guy from Smiling Feds which is that fucking noisy but yeah we here would all agree that vortex seems to suck them in with intense power right like it doesn't suck anybody else in no and I'm gonna conceit fine wong cast a spell that's so fucking good it only pulls in the spooky demons and it doesn't do anything to you okay fine so how is jen still holding on to one because she's that strong moller that vortex seemed pretty powerful yeah but she she holds she's super fucking strong she's like wow you're not going anywhere demon I need this one to threaten my client it yes that's actually true though holds it up in front of the opposition in the case hey before I send this monster through a dimension agree to my cease and desist that's called duress you know we're talking about a really shit lawyer she just destroyed a whole case by doing this well but it's okay because even though she destroyed that case donnie blaze is going to jail for the rest of his life well I guess we got that that was the double you already this is like hey donnie I feel like this is going to be you already got handed the double you you got handed the win and you destroyed it by threatening him the soldiers and now she's disbarred it's like yeah that's that's that'll be the least of it she just threatened to kill somebody exactly that's the end of the case that's the end of the career and she might be going to jail I don't know if we've really talked about maybe I'll did while I was gone did you did you guys like the the old guy with a hat is little like his his his hype man I was like he's fine I like his lines yeah I think so what was weird about watching this episode is that when Wong and She-Hulk are talking to the two of them in their office any hands are the cease and desist letter I kind of was rooting for those two you know like it's really hard to get behind our protagonists really because apart from I don't know I guess it was that weirdness of introducing the legal system into magic and this the wonkiness of this whole case or I'm like well hold hold on a moment you it's been like a day and you're sending him a cease and desist like yeah but like ah this is this is complex you know weird I choose to believe she's going to jail maybe well she's definitely getting disbarred I choose to believe the book he's reading here is called bad gay by feminist Roxanne but how does that you've fudged that you've you've mixed them up the words don't read in that order I've chosen to read them in that bad gay feminist I'd like to read it because bad gay that's the worst probably a lesbian want the good gay but um yeah I guess he's filling out and reading that gay in the good rat she got she totals back in it's time for them to have the sex woohoo I'm not just landed poorly he'd be dead should I another bad day killed all people yeah he's into that he's into death he's like crush me she Hulk this is what he's working towards not looking forward to this part so they go and have fun times she's she's happy go lucky in the morning making herself and him some orange juice can't wait for him to get up he's uh she's a great guy a good morning sunshine you owe me the details but guess who's making the news again and it's tight tania um and she's clean of all charges somehow cleared of all charges insane yep this show just never stops it just won't shut up don't worry about it it's fine don't worry about it we don't have to worry that that doesn't have to have any impact on the story we took care of that no because we need to have more drama with her going forward because she's probably being bad of the season I just don't understand why did you do this it's like well we need it for another plot point it's like why did you just take someone else don't have her going through the wall and throw a desk in a jury exactly that's like that's like step one you know you think step one it's such a bad joke oh my god what were you thinking like what why did you write why do you write at all what's the point you don't know how how did you get this job you're getting paid money for this dude I wonder if you would ask the writers like what were you why why did you do it this way and then it was like yeah but didn't you notice it was this crawl text and these news things that said oh the the lawyers of her are gonna gonna take care of it and she's a super influencer and I think at some point says it was like like a thing of low sugar because she didn't eat food or something and they probably think it's gonna be really clever even though it doesn't make any sense so yeah no choice well it's fine it's a comedy no chance so here we go he wakes up walks in says who are you says oh I'm Jen like I'm just not in Hulk form I'm just Jen then they've even got him brackets laughs nervously it's just like uh oh are we about to realize something has happened here that's very not good he goes oh cool cool unexpected says I made breakfast and he goes yeah I'm gonna go actually and the camera slowly zooms on her with her smile turning to a frown because doesn't it suck that people are only interested in her for she Hulk and not Jen which to me is like a holy you've just completely missed the way more important bad thing that happened here show yes she should disclose who they're doing things with yes absolutely turns out that you might want to it's kind of dishonest sort of to tell people to present yourself as a thing when you have an entirely different form and I think it's fair to call this a catfish he certainly feels that way and if you remember we flagged this for a reason he felt the need to say that she was she Hulk as a shock to the guy she was on a date with before because she knows this is a surprise to people and yet she decided to not tell this guy when she knows that Jen is less appealing to people yep do not try and make me feel bad for her that he's like nope whoa I didn't know this was the case you didn't tell me this and that she's like yeah but who cares right not a good look so if you already I was already having trouble liking this lady was not fucking impressed with this move kind of uh yeah hopefully she she's happy hey yeah and you know to be fair what would she know about the ethics of the situations like this it's not like she's familiar with any of these kinds of situations not like she had to learn about how these can have repercussions in law even or anything really bothers me when characters like who work about this shit for a living have no idea how this works yep very bad not good Wonder Woman 84 vibes totally the woman's uh in the right and the guy is a nasty loser for leaving like that totally and yeah we end with special delivery for Jennifer Waltz he's like it's a thing court document filed by titanium worldwide LLC like wait what over what and titanium it has grade marked the name she Hulk and she's suing her for having used it I'll be the drama for the next episode I suppose and I think we'll have to wait until we get to the specifics of what's going on in the next episode before we can even try to judge this uh legally but I'm pretty sure it ends badly for her no matter what uh in terms of her character I mean either this is valid and she for some reason didn't do anything about it or it isn't valid and titanium lawyers are retarded so like it's not gonna work out great either way it won't well hey they got her cleared of all charges that must be pretty good lawyers I guess we got the post printed scene where it's Wong and Madison talking about drinks and that's that and now we're up to date we don't know why he's hanging out with her we're up to date for more hours for hours until the next episode and I'll have a headache yeah so that took us five hours actually it's terrible it's absolutely fucking abominable fuck the show it is a comedy show that's not funny and it's a law show that is like astoundingly astoundingly like that on that front it's pretty painful extreme world building problems oh yeah the world building is the world building of the mc with this point gone reduced to atoms as your boy would say it's a go back I think the world building buffet is a very good way to put it rags in the case of this show they're picking the things they want while discarding all the things that go along with it is it more like a world building potluck it's kind of funny they don't even have control over what they choose it's just whatever you get I guess it's a buffet for the writers for us it's a potluck yeah we don't know what we're going to be getting at any point they get to choose we just get whatever the fuck they want I can't even begin to predict what we'll get as we go forward in terms of like individual stories they could do fucking anything at this point how many episodes are there we still got five more left five more yeah that's how I feel that's how we all feel what an experiment this was and that's the thing like even angry joe has turned on the show already oh my I can't imagine it lasting too much longer as it's coming out and then once it is out nobody's gonna like this shit something I noticed with this show whenever there are obviously shows that movies are trying to be funny comedies right typically when we talk about comedies that are great we usually you know discuss the aspects of them that are great and label them as great like people would say hot fuzz is great the simpsons is great they'll be described as great even though they're well not even though and they're trying to be fun shows entertaining fun movies I've noticed that whenever a show gets labeled as fun like whenever the principle defense of a show is that it's fun it's usually it's usually a show that's like really bad and everybody kind of acknowledges it but like the fun is used as kind of a defense like get stupid and dumb but like at the very least you know it's a fun time and I've seen that she-hulk has been labeled as a fun show a lot I've just noticed that as a trend that when people describe something as fun when they're referring to a TV show or a movie something that is broadly recognized as not being good because if it's fun and it's good it'll usually be described as good or great just something I've noticed it's like going to a restaurant and telling people what was cheap yeah right like it's like a weird thing to praise um cause yeah I I think it comes clear now I guess by the time we're at episode 4 yeah this show is vapid I don't think it has anything particularly interesting to say or do and so all it ends up being is a show that doesn't have much to say that isn't very funny it just has so little to offer I don't see I really do not see anybody in like 4 or 5 months going you know what I think I want to re-watch she-hulk I can't imagine I can't see that happening I can see that a lot of the people who described it as being fun yeah but you're never going to watch it again like you've only watched it as like disposable something that I guess you can laugh at um it's like yeah I still find it more interesting than rings of power it's more interesting than rings of power there's more to talk about sure it's pretty crazy how like how piss poor it is especially it's concentrated like there is about 3 episodes of bad rings of power in any one episode of he-hulk they pack it in every sentence well it's dense whereas you know rings of power is the opposite of dense it takes ages to be bad I mean I said it earlier I don't know it was earlier today or earlier in the stream it's just like when I go through rings of power it's like this happened in this scene yeah that's it I guess to say next scene you can't get anything from rings of power from some scenes because like okay this happens I guess we move on because nothing else here but here in she-hulk oh boy they try to speedrun the poopiness that's the thing only a couple days and we're going to be two episodes of rings of power behind well you come on get wrecked at least they got houses of dragon after that though andor starts in a week in a week yeah it's a week from now andor washed the pallet of rings of power and she-hulk october is going to be so fucking I blocked my I made no plans for october oh don't worry I got a whole fucking calder filled with the veds I usually do for october every year I plan so many things we're going to organize our big halloween watch through of stuff which none of you have replied in the group I hate all of you so you're the reason for that well anyway I guess I shall read super chats now we can move on from a lot of super chats will be about the show I was going to say we ain't moving on from she-hulk really we get a lot of she-hulk ones I'd imagine I'ma get coffee very wheel very well I'm going to refill my beverage real quick and I'll be right back fine long man you're making me question what day it is I apologize for that I do getting an extra e-fap this week because we got too many things to do though it's fucking unwise for us to do a bonus e-fap on top of everything else I got going on but she-hulk earned it she-hulk needed it add to have it good stuff actually I'm gonna yeet out because I have to work again tomorrow so I can't stay all the way I'm afraid it is it is thanks for joining us Mel what can people expect from you you big old flea well you can expect me tomorrow and the day after tomorrow because I'm going to sleep now then I wake up do some work stuff and then immediately go and watch the new she-hulk and then I'm going to cover it tomorrow evening on the forge so go follow there to do the forge stuff and also on Friday rings of power let's go I'll do I'm doing double duty on the forges currently because there's so much sludge it is that kind of time everyone needs to follow because the metal channel is actually almost at 3,000 subscribers which is very exciting 3k it's doing things media critic now he's hanging out with movie bob at no time yeet he's like I'm gonna eat chicken with him I'm gonna marinate some mountain dew stuff mmm it's good stuff but I know it was fun now I have all the memories from she-hulk back in my head thank you for that I probably won't be sleeping and tomorrow I'll put more she-hulk in my brain and fill up the old sludge pipes excellent yeah that's that otherwise just random streams on litwitch playing the video that's that's the stuff I'm doing all kinds of things it's going crazy alright catch you later guys goodbye bye bye with metals departure I would like and this is not a sponsorship I have in my hands a delicious beverage I went to grab an angry orchard hard cider they make a green apple and it is very delicious I would highly recommend it you lowly recommend it mmm if I drink enough of these I'll be low I see because I will have fallen over in the drunken stupor stupor I hope you're feeling better Mola high rags hello I had a big old headache yesterday I like real BBC was starting up and I was like I don't think I'll be able to do it because I need to lie down that sucks and then I saw the fucking tweets and I was like you're not serious right now you're not doubling down on the whole ball of complaints that everything is woke I was like no seriously and then like there was so much crazy back and forth that I went on to real BBC to explain it and then I was like two hours and past I was like I really should that would be the wise decision I feel better today though it's all good a local magazine is my small Polish hometown in my small Polish home has just published my review of Ant-Man consisting mainly of EFAB memes here's your cut oh I'm glad to hear that's really neat that's cool and they put yeah crags I don't know if that's correct but I assume it says hi oh well hello to you as well have you heard making their own King Kong can't wait for Annie to be better than him at everything better Kong stronger than Kong King Kong public domain I don't know he's old as fuck he might be he is quite old same thing with Godzilla right Godzilla was the 50s he's getting there it could be 70 Godzilla is Japan I don't know what Japan I was about to say Japan they have different rules for that how would that work I guess they'd have to go with Japan's rules on that right I'm pretty sure that it's owned by Toho is that the name of the company that owns Godzilla that sounds familiar I think other companies pay them like license it so yeah I don't know looks like Toho is the owner of the Godzilla character and has licensed the rights to legendary for the series the actual byproduct of their does it say there's gonna be a Godzilla and Titan's original TV show on Apple TV plus but how long until our precious Godzilla comes public domain well he is very precious to a smaller as everyone knows we're huge fans of the Godzilla series because I like Godzilla more than I like the movies he's in I even like the 2014 one I I think I like the 2014 one I like it more than King of the Monsters that one sucked then again I haven't watched a lot of the I haven't really watched any of the old Japanese ones maybe those ones are way better that's what I'm saying I think I saw one Godzilla vs. Megalon but I would legitimately like to go back and see some of those old I mean maybe for a Godzilla arc we toss in one of the old ones you know we toss around for what's considered the best of the old ones and we throw that in there get a good mix I think that could be fun by the way I wasn't saying the 2014 one is good just that I enjoyed it certainly the first time they went on to say be better than them and everything or they make Kong the villain by telling us the T-Rex is an emotionally complex creature maybe it is maybe he was mean to the T-Rex maybe bullied the T-Rex T-Rex was chill, he was friendly Eren's Rex no reason to be so mean the juxtaposition of Bruce being hyper aware of the loss of life Hulk can cause because he's a doctor is beautiful, she Hulk should have had the same thing she's a lawyer causing property damage for ages they never incorporate the professions of the characters they never remember them they're casual dialogue interactions in life or attitudes even in their home life just normal things sometimes they pretend to though like her saying no not the book of Ashanti, the book of American law it's like see she's a lawyer yeah she lawyers know about yeah that's really cool hey Moodle what are your thoughts on the new Zelda coming in May? this question is for you since you're the only one who actually plays Zelda bringing you a friend I played Breath of the Wild I played Breath of the Wild I played Link to the Past and the Minish Cap and the Mourglass and Four Swords I played that too, I didn't play Four Swords but I played what's the cell shaded one Wind Waker played a bit of that I didn't complete I played a bit of Wind Waker I had a huge amount of fun with the original Zelda I really liked it I went back and played it I was enjoying it and I did complete it as well I played the original full Castlevania I had like a little NES sort of binge at one point and I was like these games are really I can understand why the NES was success especially back when there was just nothing to do nobody went outside even it was terrifying see back on the Game Boy Advance if you bought the Legend of Zelda Link to the Past it came as an option with it, it came alongside a Four Swords and it was multiplayer only and you had to use that Game Boy Link cable to hook two Game Boy advances together so that you could play together and so my brother and I you could be like a guest on your game and Super Mario World I think two Super Mario Bros I legitimately get the names confused but they had something similar where you could play together if you linked up that Game Boy cable and oh man that was that was the thing maybe some of y'all remember that Game Boy this is before Game Boy Advance SP before the SP original Game Boy Advance and it had that that core that would connect the Game Boys and you could play together nowadays you guys you got your your wifi and your bluetooth and all your internet sort of stuff nah, no back it was a fucking cable I agree we had it hard and they didn't know the pain I was there 3,000 years ago it was real difficult to play with your threads Caveman Rex Final Fantasy Chronicles was a scam I played that for a little bit on GameCube but I don't know what I think of it now I remember feeling like I could just not really progress with it or something that I could never get items for it something about it was just I couldn't get it to I don't know I felt like for whatever reason I just got a gimped experience maybe it's just because I didn't understand the game where I was young or some shit How would you react if Mola suddenly started floating speaking backwards and began bleeding from the eyes I would be terrified I would scream out and ask if he was okay and then I just say no I probably called 911 I'm definitely not okay it's an odd question to ask by the way for a super chat it is a little bit odd that's a really strange question isn't it funny that Wong a New Yorker is less well adjusted than Yelena someone who is psychologically conditioned since she's like 6 so much potential of a character trained to be assassins age 6 granted they're also black widows in that they're supposed to be able to like deceive so they need to be taught about like being more socially adept but the reality with Yelena is that she is pulled away from the conditioning she is freed and yet just doesn't behave that way at all it's and she won't going forward either good god we're gonna get her interacting with Lucky it's gonna be great because they've kind of gone through similar things somehow he'll be made to feel worse than her or something I don't even know if they'll do it but they'll find a way they will find a way run Lucky run you're already kind of ruined what is it worse what's in a worse state Marvel or Star Wars Marvel Marvel yes Marvel Star Wars can like I feel like if I was tasked with making a good something that would be easier time to do it with Star Wars but I think Marvel it's had more cataclysmic Star Wars is quite bad but I think you can recover you can recover yeah I feel like you can you can recover one of the difficulties is that if you want to do anything after the sequels that's gonna be difficult that's a alternative perspective please Guardians 3 has all the potential in the world to be great while everything that made Star Wars great has been annihilated it's not that they've done as much damage as say even MOM I mean the hyperspace account because it was pretty bad but like all the greatest characters from the OT and like drained and destroyed even some of their storylines have been changed like retroactively like you know for example Anakin never actually killed the emperor just like yeah he never restored balance he was never the chosen one it was actually you know Ray all along you know like the republic still fell like deadbeat dad Luke lost faith in his family in the galaxy and in the fort like all you know you just they picked apart all of it they reset everything you know is there any project they could announce for Star Wars that makes you go like in the same way that Guardians 3 we have like a really strong amount of hope for like James Gunn can do this because Guardians has got a proof and maybe it exists in the MCU and we still like don't consider that game over for Guardians 3 Guardians is in particular removed I feel from a lot of the MCU stuff like yeah it takes place in the multi-verse or whatever but it's so far like especially the first two Guardians they seem so removed from the Earth centric for the most part stuff in the MCU and he just comes down to James Gunn is very talented and I think he's got what it takes like if James Gunn was to direct a Star Wars you know movie I'd be super excited well then how about this question would you rather see that new brand new Star Wars movie from James Gunn or Guardians 3 Guardians 3 yeah my answer is Guardians 3 yeah but is that Guardians already has characters I like yep and I want to see that's why I want to wrap them up yeah but I guess that's what I'm saying is what if the actual choice was would you want to see a new James Gunn Star Wars movie or a new James Gunn Marvel movie that isn't the Guardians I'd probably go with Star Wars just because I think Star Wars needs I don't know I think I'd go with Star Wars my curiosity is but if it's going to be Guardians 3 then I got it we could make this the question a little bit funnier or I guess arguably more interesting you know James Gunn takes on the writing and directing of let's say Mandalorian Season 3 is reset and he's doing all that or James Gunn is taking on the writing and directing and execution of Avengers the next Avengers movie well yeah but the reason why I take Avengers is because that has a broader impact like for like you get him to like make I don't know I think that would be an argument for why you wouldn't pick it yeah that's that's why I'm thinking Mandalorian 3 because the Avengers abilities if he's got to juggle everything in the end that's why I chose the Avengers is that's an incredibly difficult thing from to nail yeah and a lot of the new Avengers will just be terrible and I hate them anyway and they suck and James Gunn is not perfect at this I don't believe he made Harley Quinn he didn't fix Harley Quinn he didn't at all she is a looming cloud over every fucking thing that she's in and it sucks that she had to be so prominent in that movie when she was the worst part of it meanwhile providing him Mandalorian maybe he could turn that show finally into something worth seeing yeah even though like Mando and everything they're not good characters you could fix them you could provide the character he would give him a whole bunch of people to bounce off him like I genuinely think you would probably get us a good season of Mandalorian I don't know what he would do with the Avengers however gotta get rid of that fucking Grogu but it's not happening he has nothing to bounce off of that's the thing I might though pick his Avengers just because it's the lost gasp of making the MCU maybe he can write vaguely write the ship in some way shape or form before it all just over I don't know but anyway if this was indicative of the potential of both universes or the destruction that's been levied against them I think that the answer of course is obviously holy shit the damage has been done to both of them they could have been making so much more money from these guys they could have Mandalorian Thor should have made more than it did hello chat people the devil fruit of the week is the Hanahana fruit that allows you the user to replicate and sprout pieces of their body from the surface of any object or living thing would you eat this fruit the Hanahana know me is a paramecia type devil fruit that allows the user to replicate and sprout pieces of their body from the surface of any object or living thing that can be really useful I mean I guess it depends on how it yeah because I assume that this is just like a superpower that I get so I want that like if I need something across the room oh I'll just sprout my arm on the wall to grab it and like throw it to me you know wait is it the no swimming again that's the drawback for all of these oh that I can't but I never really swim anyway what if you need to though what goes far as saying this one is like we can be saving a significant amount of lives with this power so I just avoid the water I guess plus if you fall into the water can't you just make your head appear on dry land apparently all of them make you weak to salt water that was bizarre you can swim in a lake basically I guess so yeah you should by what people are saying yeah like oh god and also if this allows you to sprout extra body parts from your body then that means that you could just like have an extra arm if you needed it like oh I need to hold this or do this oh extra arm is it easy to just drop it once you don't need it though or is this forever I assume so that you could like pull it back the way that you pulled it you know on right so that way yeah I was like oh I need an extra arm to do this oh I got an extra arm now I get oh that's that'd be great to have an extra arm I think or part of this that is supposed to make it compelling apparently is the universe it's set in loads of water everywhere like islands I guess or something in our worlds we respect going to the water you know can spend a long time without ever even going swimming so it's taken me nearly three hours to appreciate the meme you posted and the long not using the mirror dimension on Wanda but he uses a good meme on evomination at Donnie Blaise yeah one of them to punish and kill him the other to protect him it's like hey he might not die he might not die yeah is that like food in the mirror dimension I guess it's mirror food so if you eat it is it like gloss or something maybe since Wanda escaped Wong just thinks the mirror dimension is kind of a chill place yeah maybe Bruce should have hulked out after his device broke technically he did he just took a little bit to do so but you're probably right probably should have just happened but whatever what ever what's up with eight days being left for the plushies oh yeah they got extended I probably should have maybe extended is it not crazy that the love for these plushies was so thorough so everlasting that the good old folks at makeshift were like hey lads how about send it by a week right if you so if they're not in the description they should be but I'm terrible with stuff here it is I believe they've been linked going maybe maybe not fine because you find them pretty easily just makeshift and then more all fringy more 2.0 for my yeah they got extended so now there is eight days before we'll never have a chads some ever again yeah we'll update you guys because obviously we're doing another you have on saturday so you'll see us again and hey not that we would but we would run another bonus if you have next wednesday that would mean at this point of that stream at that time there would be exactly one day left but yeah just about eight days the plushies then I can't say when we will be next to them but a rags one will be on the way that's right they're finalizing some stuff I think they got one last change I'm having them do and it's looking good it's looking real good as it stands right now there are about to be 1,340 fringies running around crazy just being happy with his goo see plush ringies got all figured out real fringy yeah real fringies got all get there the plush world is much simpler it's a happy world full of cuddliness just look at him there look at how happy he is I've always loved this this cover change the way it does it on OBS I'm not even sure what I would call this effect but I like it it's a type of fate I suppose very satisfying as are the plushies buy them now you get 10% off do do do do all righty are we considering recent events on the adam and sit show correct name how much value I know how much value do you lads put into guilt by association I appreciate you all massively like I could give a single fuck after everything I've been through in my life if someone's hanging out with someone I hate so let's say for example not even hate someone I just think has the most horrible opinions if rags are like best friends of movie bob I would just be like really it wouldn't make me think like oh rags must be a horrible person I'd be like no no no no no no I'd be curious like what do you think about what he said about the whole you know kill all Thaddo Snapple conservatives or nazis ruined eugenics like I'd just be curious about it if you like no seriously he's a great guy he just tweets out some weird shit I'd be like really because he really does tweet out some weird shit and I would entertain the fact that I've got a very skewed view rather than immediately going nah pretty sure my skewed view is of rags gotta get rid of him he's the one if he's hanging out with movie bob um guilt by association is so fucking lame and confusing especially when you're friends with two people who disagree with each other so it's just like now who am I agreeing with who are that oh you can't just imply standards you difficult to what I don't want to check out nutsus channel after last stream it turns out I've seen her very first video what are the chances crazy thing all your destruction of the doctor stranger mom was masterfully done thank you very much glad you destroyed doctor strangers mom whoa wow a movie me atle fringoo hello hi oh it ends with well yeah uh zander hall's name is fitting given his prehistoric intelligence um I don't get it I guess the end of soul oh okay that said don't wait for the next 48 hours of this week he fat also high rugs he was very upset that I made fun of that he did not appreciate that that got highlighted so much it's just a weird thing to think it's very funny um I finally watched Justice League recently and I now see what moeller meant when talking about weed and trying to salvage Snyder's work hey that's not just me that was everybody we watched them we watched the movies and we were like wait a minute there's more character in the weeded one the scenes he added wait a second there's less character work in the four hour cut that's weird it is weird because all the character scenes are in that weird room remember there's the reshoot room that everyone goes in to have characters they walk into the room and they're like time to share my feeling it's just a character room only every show has a character room from my memory Goss decided he needed to try and justify why Wonder Woman decided not to help anybody for like decades remember that was like a thing and it's like fuck how do I justify that and he justified it by having a feel that whenever she gets involved in doing anything that relates to that the people get killed by her command or whatever isn't it something like she said she felt responsible for death and she said that if she there was like a whole thing about it and then Batman is trying to convince her that's retarded and then Batman has moments of being like oh shit when the giant super enemy punched me and I flew into a wall it actually hurt he's like I'm all bruised he's talking about how he's not going to be around forever and he I think bruised bruised Wayne and then he's like you gotta you know when I'm dead and gone and we gotta have a leader of this League of Hours you know it's like stuff stuff is happening Night of Cut is very long empty but I mean there is some stuff in it and when they sniffed Aquaman I do remember when she sniffed Aquaman swear because that's the Snyder vision Josh saw it and he cut it out that's so funny to me I want to see it I want to see him looking at it and going what the fuck is this the movies become a guilty pleasure for me just like the Star Wars prequels hey I'll happily watch and say is this guy bothering you punches him this guy bothering you the classic the one time Henry Cavill got to play Superman pretty neat all the consistency is key sorry for starting crap with you and Adam again on Sunday lol that's alright it's totally they want to talk about storytelling so do I, it's all chill I'll convince them eventually I'll turn them into a an oid great this one just says nepotisms I think this was when we were all the way back in episode 2 Dark Times Dark Times I'm gonna use the sexy new purple EFAP TV Shleem no no no EFAP TV is not for the mainline episodes talking about breaking things like actually that'll be the format we use for Andal Andal will be the first thing that we get that used on how exciting G-Hulk is so defensive I confuse her for Shuckle Pokemon right Pokemon Shuckle Shuckle I think so let me yeah he's the one in the little yeah he's the one in the pot I'll show you yeah he's the he's got the yellow E here that's Shuckle yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I know your secret you're neither bird nor frog you're a man doing a handstand and the beak mask isn't a mask at all it's a card piece where's his legs if I guess he's doing a handstand what you think his arms are I guess so which means that his it protrudes a decent distance from his yeah maybe it's got like a choker around it and it's really tight so it just sort of bulges around up there also Hyrule oh hello hi you guys should watch a silent voice the student loans comment makes his sound like the new Saints Row game mega cringe um yeah it's I don't even know why she's bringing it up like I gotta pay off my student loans I can't just become a vigilante like don't you think the question really doesn't regard like what nothing to do with whether or not you have student loans that wouldn't also adult orphans why the distinction it's not like you can un-orphan yourself after childhood yeah I guess um I haven't checked the definition of orphan does it relate to an age or is it just parents are both I didn't think it did I thought yeah I didn't know if it did or not I don't know that's that's a good point and well like it like you would have seen from our coverage we weren't exactly happy with like a lot of dialogues just like uh uh again what are you doing uh suck come on today is Wednesday September 14th 2022 yes and we're already three episodes into the next season of eFap but we're 47 episodes away from the anniversary everybody getting there you know time travels didn't even ask permission just travels b-hulk is so bad I want to make a long man video going over it nearly every single moment and this is bad or damaging to the characters yeah um b-hulk walks like the team america puppets he just does not appear to be in the place that we're supposed to believe she is really I just I've never heard the name Chad sounds really um I deleted my entire live chat history does that mean my super chat from eFap 200 is gone there were six of them well so I grabbed them uh on the the times they came through and they're all saved into a file so as long as you only deleted your entire live chat history recently then I should have it but it was still that'll still be released at some point there's still a lot of super chat catch-up stuff we've got that's going to be coming out we need to find days where we can record as well as days doing extra eFap episodes as well as doing days for all the other streams um we'll keep updating you on that when when everything's but obviously hopefully we can keep doing the newer episode super chats on the episodes up to some degree hence why by the way doing three episodes of she-hulk now as opposed to like eight one stream would amend that we were able to do will you ever critique amnesia rebirth well I'm gonna make a big video on it if that's what you're asking I think there are a few videos out there that you can find that there are yeah that go over it but I mean we've said this before but if you don't know put into the old youtube search bar eFap and amnesia rebirth we got a full episode on it I say full it's four hours some people may claim that's not full but I would and you can listen to four hours of myself rags and metal fucking complaining extensively about amnesia rebirth extensively we were not happy not happy right before the tag of episode three is the credits rolled I thought hey you know it's not really handed but it's not that bad and then immediately working sorry but the fact that you wrote this means you survived thus you are stronger rags they replaced you with a woman twice is eFap getting too political what yes it is I am in extreme disagreement not calling it she-fap she-fap also today's day of the day is 9-11 which was a national tragedy who was a national tragedy Lauren Southern rings of power high rags hello you imagine Lauren Southern coming on eFap rings of power like scene by scene she like strictly talks about Tolkien lord lord the rings movies bye bye I would be on board with that let me know if she veto quote of the day I don't want complex nuanced character arcs in a comedy I want jokes please help this man um well like we got p-hulk is a you can definitely say it's a comedy but like there's still there's still drama in it and Jen is still going on an arc I don't see why that would be a problem if it were while executing I'm trying to think of what is what is a comedy TV show with strong arcs what are we looking at what do you think of comedy show with strong arcs if Morty tried to do it at one point I feel like Scrubs was uh Scrubs went for like longer arcs I think they did pretty well um so community is really funny but I don't know how I'd say that they handled their arcs long term hard to argue for time the adventure time probably does actually count Blackadder I don't I don't know if there was arcs in Blackadder Archer has arcs Bojack Horseman yeah I guess well Bojack Horseman is a show that people say has characters they go on really well in arcs still mention afterlife the only thing about afterlife is like that is a comedy drama like there is a lot of drama in it but it's also right as opposed to I guess a show that height the lens into being a comedy I guess so yeah I don't know maybe it should count maybe yeah I don't know I guess what I'm trying to say is that you know arcs being in a comedy is totally fine yeah pretty normal and oftentimes I've said before like some of the most memorable and meaningful moments of comedy shows for me when we get real serious characters have a moment where they something happens funnily enough the um one of my most memorable and favorite episodes of Scrubs is the one with Brandon Frazier in it second appearance I don't remember that episode their flippant disregard for work ethic is consistent with 20 year old burger flippers who've never had a long-term commitment job before getting into writing I don't know I feel like there'd be more character from someone who's been burger flipping they probably would have spoken to all kinds of people I feel like they have character I kind of agree with the sentiment that Gary Drinker and that have come up with where some of these writers feel like they've got less than that for life experience where you can almost tell how sort of like specific and sort of narrow their experiences have been with the way that they write the people they don't like just like nothing to them and that's how they see a lot of experiences because they don't care to go anywhere outside of their sort of um yeah I think that they need to live fuller lives and they'll likely start improving at writing I guess but at the same time incoherent nonsense so maybe do anything else hi rags hi usually and frongo did finish probably would have said and Mutl which one of you guys was tall in middle school I think both me and ring you were I was not all I didn't hit my I guess growth spurt until high school um I hit six foot and I was like 13 very tall powering over the little folk I don't know free I think free you said before you child indeed I can't help but feel neurotic as a right wing troll here in America you're in America that's why that I guess because he's American but yeah I wouldn't quite that's not that's not how I would characterize him think of him also as just a hyper new hey guys if any of you seen the sandman on Netflix I've enjoyed it quite a bit but I don't know how the writing holds up would love to hear your thoughts also hi rags hello no I have not seen it I've seen the first episode wasn't um I wasn't very I thought it was meh I was gonna wait until friends recommended it if they did and some friends have watched any of the episodes that have come out and told me to avoid it and so I was like I'm probably gonna this is yeah um part one springy you keep my sanity I've been rewatching daredevil again but I think the back half of season 2 is a huge step down from the rest of the show I think the main cause is Electra compared to Matt and Frank's conversation on the morality of killing or not Electra's bring out Matt's darker side feels very weak I also don't find Electra compelling at all thoughts and while you answer that I'm gonna go toilet in a while since I've watched season 2 but I would agree that the second half is weaker than the first half it's definitely weaker like the daredevil punisher stuff is the strong component of season 2 and once the hand plot kicks off that's when it starts to starts to kind of decline a bit um yeah the problem is I can't remember as much about the second half of season 2 it's not I yeah that's not a hot take though someone's mentioned in chat that's uh that's the general sentiment on season 2 um yeah it's basically I don't really have much to add nevertheless I would still recommend if you're watching that to go through the whole season you don't really need to watch defenders that's okay you can kind of skip that and should I don't know what happened with that show though I guess it's kind of funny now because we've reached a point where I imagine if you look at iron fist it's like is iron fist the worst compared to what we're getting now probably not who knows yeah man just thinking about what's to come as well huh pain it's pain cringy probably pain yeah I know what's I don't know what like happened it fell off a cliff like deteriorated everything died everything just every franchise it all just sort of like go up in smoke around the same time yeah terminated genesis was the first I was actually asked about that and I said the didn't you didn't you say too many genesis in the early one but uh isn't halo 4 before that and you consider that one halo 5 destroyed um a lot of halo what I said halo 4 um well so I think that halo 4 deal some serious damage to uh to the law and the universe for sure um but I yeah I guess I'm not sure if I would class that in the same category 5 was utter destruction whereas 4 has elements that are worthwhile right um I mean narratively at least yeah but 5 is like cataclysmic like the dialogue in that game you would not believe how bad it is alrighty then um fun fact moon knight has more Emmys than medical soul what the fuck yeah because yeah that's right because it has at least one right dude or anything that hasn't ever he has more Emmys than medical soul right so it's like there's a shit ton of things that got an every move yeah kind of like this is the same energy a suicide squad the oscar the academy award-winning picture um um how would you go about assessing a movie with a plot is indecipherable or intentionally broken movies like chronobugs existence or david lynch films uh you've never died away from the idea that if you have you know guy walks into a building you hear a gun shot and he walks out you look in the building the dead guy with a bullet wound like well you don't know that he did it you're like that seems a little like you know you have to just interpret away you can't just like yeah at this point we don't know if that's what happened nothing is uh incompatible necessarily and so when you have films like david lynch creates where there's plenty to interpret and a lot of it can be categorized and what you'll find is because this is an ongoing discussion for a lot of people about david lynch's stuff where they'll be like to try and lock it down into one interpretation is to misunderstand david lynch's work entirely like it's not supposed to be that's not supposed to be done with it I think when he's asked about what his work means he basically says fuck off like it's like it's not to want it to be treated that way but like the fact that people will take it use what's in it and then construct sort of ideas based on because I watched all of rlm's coverage of all of david lynch's stuff as well and it's interesting to see what they come up with um it follows the same rules that we do with everything every every conclusion you make it usually comes from references and they can be you know, compared with other ones to be inconclusive or conclusive they really have like you don't find people who are analyzing his stuff saying you know oh if you look at this there and the color of this there and this there then it really points to this representing this you don't have them go accept this thing here ruins that entire interpretation but I'm just going to ignore it they usually try and incorporate it um so yeah I just don't see why you wouldn't be able to do that with any of this stuff I've seen existence by the way it's a fucking weird film and the only thing I remember from it was the flash gun there's like a gun made out of body parts bone and flash and stuff it grown up in big weeks weird movies you guys didn't know um the fly for example but man is it fucking scary mm-hmm or anything else you guys want to say about that one or oh you could carry on mm-hmm mm-hmm all right hi e-fap crew we love talking about your bone again hi! has anyone seen the willow trailer is there any interest in covering the show on e-fap I do not care about willow I'm afraid I don't either I haven't seen willow I've heard that it's great and terrible it was funny I was about to say it's fine like this it's I appreciate it for what it is there's some funny schnisms that happened in it uh it's would you find out that it's like peter jacks sorry don't peter jack doge lucas trying to have his own lord of the rings or something that's like the conception of that it's pretty interesting to think about but uh I know a lot of people watched it when they were but young and so they're very very attached to it uh so they probably like us to you know give a shot of breaking down whatever the new version is but uh yeah I wouldn't want to touch that because I'm just not passionate about willow um best of luck willow fans best of luck and to the fray um can we just skip this parody and focus on something good like house of the dragon well funny enough um house of the dragons gonna have a fifth episode by sunday and uh fringy is actually up to date on house of the dragon did you know that ranks I did not know that I didn't know he had an interest in it I think he did well I checked it out and yeah it's neat so yeah it's uh once once it gets to the complete season the 10 episodes I will that's what I said I'm gonna consider recommending it or not really depends how well they can get out because uh my my insistence that they need to redeem themselves after what happened retroactively becoming my head less and less relevant because the people in control of this whole thing really aren't the same people at all that made the mess that there's a couple like like supotnik was one of the people that was directly involved with he's left the show now not to say that his influence isn't still on a lot of the stuff in there and that's not to say that his influence was completely bad in fact fans were super fucking happy when he got more and more work unfortunately he's responsible for the long night so this whole mix bag thing so yeah we'll see for the people who are looking for me to talk about it though every sunday you got Nordic lives me and Shad and Gary we all break down the newest episode we do it like an hour after it comes out so one of them hot off the presses things you know but so far yeah we're all liking it I like I've been enjoying it master of disguise free fat movies movie well guessing so yeah I assume that's what he means I am not sure if I am totally enough for the turtle club do the thing right to it one thing madness wait did I say nude rotic Shad and Gary would have been funny if I did he's he's of two minds is just got here I hear that factorial music I turned it off two people can't be lying mauler you're playing factorial this whole time you're playing factorial so much you don't even know that you're playing it oh oh the old longbong of murebslington abbey is there any good chance of a kongfap of peter jackson's long kong there's less going on yes hello wags hello that's an idea a kongfap a long kong the konging of the longing I believe that that will sit soundly that involves us going through the lot of them when I say the lot of them I mainly mean the new that we'll probably do king of the monsters again why not we'll have a new cast fresh minds I wouldn't mind seeing rodan people get eaten and stuff again why not blazes charles danse saying go over there great so yes there will be long there will be kong perhaps even perhaps even much long let's see whiny mawler in a new hope stormtrooper went bonk that's true stormtrooper did bonk has had and it's true I can't believe that people are shitting on star wars for being silly and goofy when this literally happened in star war a new hope you see in 1977 an extra in the back of the set in star wars a new hope on his head on the set thereby sealing into perpetuity the genre redefinement that would be a lack of seriousness in all aspects within the star wars trilogy and beyond to all of its intellectual properties into the future nubitably if only the lesser critics on the internet would understand that this is an aspect of the film genre that they have missed alas I feel they'll never come around the correct way of thinking and so they must be stopped so they must be destroyed it'd be really funny if in an alternate universe we peer in and the only change this made is that that extra didn't bump his head and nobody makes the argument that star wars is allowed to be goofy everyone is like no, no goofiness in star wars it was never goofy they legit really are convinced by that one boop wait, you realize that in multiverse of man there is a universe where that is literally the only difference between our universe and theirs it has that great effect, yeah so it's that I sounded like Galadriel from Lord of the Rings it's not true did anyone else think pug was an assistant slash secretary going by the gift basket with poop maps and taking notes during that meeting until the walking harassment case said I'll have him defend me yeah, I think I kind of agree with you it felt like they were not setting him up to be like a lawyer and then he's like, no he is oh, okay he is cause yeah, it did look like he was more of a secretary but yeah maybe they did change their mind as they were going I don't know I almost didn't click on this because I thought it was the moola re-upload what do you mean just and how would we be re-uploaded in a stream that never happened yet you know in terms of coverage of she-held but oh yeah, I guess you could say maybe you missed it not entirely sure if you've answered this or not but have you or are you going to watch Daredevil if you have, what do you guys thoughts on it I have seen it, Fringy has seen it I do not believe Rags has seen it the show? I have not of course referring to Daredevil with Carmen Electra um what are you talking about the 2003 film Carmen Electra it's Jennifer Garner oh my god, Garner, yeah playing Electra it's not Carmen Electra playing Electra that's the confusing part that's is there a porn version of Daredevil with Carmen Electra in it first off, yes there is but there you go all has been made well and it looks like there's an Electra movie in 2005 yeah, Jennifer Garner that's probably really good we should have an Electra arc where we watch Daredevil in 2003 Electra from 2005 it's just porn you can do that part we'll watch some more we'll watch X-Men X-Men 2 X-Men 3 X-Men Origins Wolverine The Wolverine Logan X-Men Apocalypse The Last Stand 2 why is it that just sounds like a funny day maybe they're against like the cure but again controlled by the Sentinels who are led by Magneto who are led by Apocalypse like in Apocalypse also we will be watching a little bit more porn at least me and you rags because J Longbone will force us to see the sequel to that weird movie because it's out now no we watch two, we watch two there were four of them and we watched them both there's gonna be four yes no, but the story's over and I asked her if she really was going to force us to see the next one and she said yes this is madness this is madness that can't be right I mean it'll be funny to see those when they finally come out I guess it will be it was immensely funny to just watch porn with my friends but like I said I said I was invested in getting the plot moving some of the times it was like oh shit how is this gonna react to this it was like time for porn it was like hey nah I'm for porn and it's like shitty porn too it's like the most basic kind of it was artistry without being artistic it's not the kind of porn that I normally is it called 365 days and then the sequel 365 days and two I don't even remember I don't know what they're called I think the first one was called 365 days but yes, so for people who have refused, Daylong Bones recorded a watch party with us and friends for that movie and its sequel we did both of them and she's gonna make us do even more and it's mean, rude but hopefully entertaining when it gets edited oh sorry they did say what are you guys' thoughts on Dear Devil I guess because I said vaguely that we like it I'm trying to think of just saying anything else I could say I mean I got a lot of normie takes the stuff with him and Punisher was top notch Kingpin, Guy is a really good actor Jensen's enough for you I liked that they spent so much time focusing on Matt's character that's nice we don't get that a lot you'd be like what do you mean of course they do it I'm like don't say that don't say of course they do it's never a subeti thing anymore it's just a strong drama that like meaningfully explores the character beyond surface level beyond surface level kind of observations it really digs into Matt madness the Warhammer 40k word of the day is Daymon Kulab Daymon Kulab Z-D-A-E-Mon Q Lab Daymon Kulab Okay it was a name given to the individuals used in the attempt to create new chaos space marines from the mutated womb of a human female making use of the uncorrupted gene seeds stolen from the Imperial Fists repository in the world of Hydra Cordotis so I guess that's bad I mean it sounds spooky it does sound it's unlikely that it's called Daymon Kulab and it's a good thing with the elf I think the joke to everyone is that it was silly of the client to assume Megan would be interested in him it's just mean spirited I think it is mean spirited like I said it culminates with the whole like yes he is stupid enough to think that he has a chance with her I don't like that but She-Hulk likes it the writers liked it so pretty based of She-Hulk deposit that it's stupid for men to spend money on women I'm sure they didn't mean to do that sadly well they definitely have the vibe of like look how idiotic he is to have spent that much money on her and it's like getting mixed signals here I'm getting vibes that I'm not quite kicking up a button down or maybe I am I don't know interesting quote of the day victory is a thousand fathers but defeat is an orphan say that one more time I want to make sure that soaks in victory is a thousand fathers but defeat is an orphan because I guess because the last of you guys will die in the war when you win and so you'll have dads that are still alive but then if you lose then there will be a whole bunch of orphans victory is a thousand fathers but people I don't know what that means I'm kind of I'm just sitting there thinking about it and I don't get it what do you think chat victory is a thousand fathers so like a victory leads to a lot of but defeat is an orphan if you are an an or a thousand father versus an orphan I legitimately do not know what that means someone said victory has a thousand or so well it says victory is in the quote or maybe it's not the right quote he's missing the word pride if you've never heard this quote before everyone knows this one this is the first time I've heard this one I have not heard this quote before is it the K quote is it well in that case then it probably does relate to when you lose people die right is that the is that the two simplistic read of it victory is like one thousand fathers and defeat is like an orphan well but then there's also the other Jav K quote zombies zombies zombies I can't remember the whole speech at times like this our action must be swift and decisive to deter all forms of aggression gentlemen lock and load any last words sir yes any last words for your humble troops do not pray for easy lives I mean that's a real quote do not pray for easy lives I really like that quote though easy lives my friends pray to be stronger men hell yeah it's a good quote as for if that other one was from him I don't get that one so much that one is I lost on me so the quote actually is victory has a hundred fathers but defeat is an orphan I assume it is the idea just when you lose a lot of people die well so I saw somebody say that in chat that I think the notion was that like people like to claim people like to claim victories but they don't like to claim defeats oh no one claims responsibility for now a hundred people will claim the kid is like the victory but if it's not then nobody will take credit for it I think credit for success but few will accept responsibility yeah which is that's a good quote because it's true that's very true people always take responsibility for their successes but blame failures on outside circumstances when the truth is in the middle you are both the consequence is positive and negative of the product of both what you do and also circumstances beyond your control that's neat it's like not super valuable to focus on so just try and focus on what's in your control I suppose okay well now that I understand that that quote is interesting now to me if that's what it means I think yeah it makes sense I just didn't draw that connection but yeah I like that that's really good I was thinking too literally about the fathers relating to like something about like men in battle being lost and yeah like the cost the human cost of war Wong says kumate I'm getting blood splurts flashbacks yeah I think one of the blood splurts was called kumate right oh oh okay I think so I can't quite remember EFAP meet up in Seattle when I want to take you guys to the woods and shoot machine guns again I will be in Seattle next year shoot machine guns North West I shot a lot of guns on Monday my shoulder is still actually sore right now from all the shooting I did on Monday I met up with a whole bunch of friends and they brought all kinds of guns and we shot and shot and shot and my shoulder still sore we shot so much and it was a great time and it was wonderful it doesn't kick in until the next day the rest of the day after you shoot you're fine no issues whatsoever it could be like alcohol where it's like we're gonna steal some enjoyment from the future and put it here to double your enjoyment now ooh but alcohol hits really soon it's like you feel totally normal after shooting a whole bunch and then you wake up the next day and then you're like why is my shoulder and my upper arms so sore on the right hand side assuming you're right handed I was referring to a hangover yeah I know but like you get like even before then you just feel ok so when you get drunk you get the super happy tipsy stuff and the equivalent when shooting is the fun of shooting and then the next day you have the sore arm versus the hangover I think there's a difference in like in the suddenness that you sort of feel it hangover sort of happened like they progressed slowly towards you inexorably or at least that's been my experience perhaps we have different experiences I'm just broadening it out to a negative experience the following day you perhaps you get turned up for what I couldn't say I don't know how you do it in Welshland what I said was really simple and you made it all weird and goopy I don't think so I don't appreciate goopas if it hits soon for you right because no no no it doesn't the thing I was do not hit soon for me that's what I was saying James but the solder sureness it like all of a sudden hits you you just it nothing and then all of a sudden you're like oh shit my arms really sore it doesn't sneak up I mean it does sneak up on you but it doesn't like slowly encroach upon your life you just sort of notice it and then you remind it of things little from wrong is wongers in the chat yeah a buddy he had he had like one of those that ridiculous 500 Smith and Wesson revolver and he had a Desert Eagle and we had some AK's there we had some AR's we had all kinds of pistols and stuff and revolvers we had all kinds of stuff we had it we just had a we all we had a 45 70 lever action gorgeous gorgeous gun nothing kicks pretty good but man good time good time good time to shout out gaming magic 13 a critic who has a stellar series on how Incredibles 2 is awful the long man with very similar ideas and editing to mollus and he'd make a great guest good rat well he's clearly doing God's work because Incredibles 2 is a fucking nightmare hey there god the music is so good at least we got Incredibles 1 that was good it's better than good you might even call it great I think I might even go further than that whoa it is great it is stellar it's interstellar no I would never no you don't remember the part you don't like the part where syndrome jumped in that black hole and then he appeared as if through time travel to his younger self in Mr. Incredible Mobile and then he used Morse code to send himself the e2 jetpacks jet boots I think when we're going to destiny about interstellar he said like in casual thought he was like what was the end of that film where he just sort of travels through time the black hole dimension and ends up seeing his daughter but she's like super old I was like dude I don't know I don't think anybody fucking knows that is a good question anyone who thinks that movie is good ask them how it ended what I met you you said it was really good what I met Wolfie said it was really good did I say that I really like parts of it I don't remember exactly I just remember I think I said I really like his performance in it and I like the musical whole lot well I don't the whole point I was trying to gather it was like I think it makes sense and it's totally chill when people like it I was infuriated by it and I know that I had a minority reaction on that one though I will make a video one day and totally convid everybody to the build of the long but for interstellar someone asked how do people like interstellar after a single watch now I think that's the movie that you can almost point to like it's a terrible movie and I totally get how it fools so many people because it has audio great acting great visuals amazing music it's very grandiose and it's very artistic and it's presentation and all this stuff totally it talks about love humanity exploration and the you know how it don't go quiet into that good night or whatever the fuck he keeps saying it's beautiful but when you fucking ignore that and just look at the script like I said me and Douma legit almost went nuts we spent like an hour trying to figure out what the fuck the ending was and I've seen that movie like 17 times and I don't know how at this point I have on my like latest viewing I no longer understand the film how does that even happen the last you understand look I used to know what the ending was I don't know anymore in the case the ATF is monitoring this stream I meant I like to bump my fire fire my guns and I am trying to acquire a binary trigger very well absolutely yes finally made it to a live stream watched every video but never got time for a stream thank you all for your videos it is great entertainment greetings from Germany hey greetings greetings to you German our German left us I genuinely feel like Daredevil can't be canon after she helps court scenes they are not in the same universe what does canon even mean anymore the world building is so busted I think they're gonna try and be like we're doing the best of both worlds we're like we kind of acknowledge the events of the the show but we because of course something that's gonna be very difficult to our sellers you're telling me Matt doesn't care about all of the stuff that King pins up to out of prison out in the world getting up to crazy stuff and Matt doesn't care I think that it may have been the wiser choice to just have a multiverse Matt come in instead of implying it all ever that that three season TV show is in the MCU because they are incompatible they are incompatible but I think that they recognize that a good number of people won't care and that more people will be upset if you make the show not canon in the MCU if they end up fucking it up they're gonna regret well well yeah it is it's very much a monkeys poor at this point it's like oh after all of the Disney plus Marvel shows man Daredevil shows geez you could say every case is a Mary sued I get it well I really liked my I liked my league a female villain who's an attorney her name was Miss Trial I like that but I didn't get any reaction from it I thought I said ah alright that's good I feel bad sometimes I do like a smirk and I'm like oh shit you have no idea no it's fine I'm really glad yeah I'm glad because I thought that was that would that would be fun Miss Trial yeah and then later on like Mrs. Trial and it's like that doesn't yeah and there's um and maybe you have no I'll forget it alright hello all been a fan from the early days and come to humbly ask for a shout out I just published a book called alone at the edge of the mind last month and was looking to spread awareness thanks well I mean probably should have mentioned what kind of book it is because you know like genre or something but yeah I mean if if if you're interested in grabbing up a random book out there because you're feeling like feeling adventurous and the name alone at the edge of the mind sounds like an interesting thing maybe check it out who knows could be bad could be mid who knows because there's so many options there you go I work in 3d animation and worked on a bit of post animation on mocap the big secret with mocap looking bad in cheap productions is that it's not as plug and play as some people think depending on the shop and how the mocap the mocap rig was feeling on any given day anywhere from 50 to 90 percent of the animation will work work will need to be redone by normal 3d animations the rigs that work good for mocap are slow and terrible to work with when animating by hand and it's also something the animators probably aren't used to I assume that the way not yeah I I don't it doesn't surprise me because I sort of assume that the way it kind of works is that it's almost like rotoscoping where you have an actor you kind of draw over something that you use as a template so I would imagine that it still takes you know every frame you have to go through and get everything right the effects like one of the difficulties that they would probably have is you probably got the actress like on set in the mocap suit and it's like oh damn you need to get rid of her in every single frame and then yeah put she-hulk in there like someone had to do that um it's just not something you have to do if it's all digital right like if you do video game cutscenes it's all it's all digital you just don't have that problem well the point they're making is the yes sometimes the mocaps capture will be useful but sometimes it's almost entirely thrown out because the animations aren't looking right I can believe that and I can imagine that there would just be difficulties innately with having an actress who's probably what like five six and then having to map those onto yeah like with seven inches it's like yeah you're uh it's just not going to be the same and then trying to integrate that into a real environment as well and also you have like only a year to get it done like yeah but for nine episodes of television oh wow I guessed right the joke is he's stupid for thinking out a chance with it I was behind in the board yeah that was it speaking of shulk any of you ever play Xenoblade uh I played Xenoblade Chronicles X but I haven't played the other ones I hear that Xenoblade Chronicles is really cool I have not I have not played it that's a good soundtrack though Xenoblade Chronicles Mark my words Moly you made us watch literal seconds of she-hulk twerking for your own amusement moola as hilarious it was meowla the chat will somehow get you back for it muffler let it be known if I was in charge of this fucking production that wouldn't happen well sometimes you gotta show chat the lows for them to appreciate the highs to appreciate yes what were those highs again when we finished talking about she-hulk it was a grand high the highs were the dad with the shovel that was the high of the four episodes that was the high ironically the high was about digging two hours digging holes let's just leave it at that I want to see more of him with his show I want to know about this this monkey king guy from this other dimension I thought he was a goat demon wasn't he oh yeah the goat yeah the goat demon I want to know about this goat demon I want to know about Madison's adventures there were goblins there but there was also a goat man yeah I wouldn't know but these were this sounds like a whole thing yeah yeah fuck Earth I don't care I want to see that Mark oh wait 20 years in eFap Alfred how many good properties are left how many stayed that way oh that's great oh wow yeah busted out the BVS quick truly this is a dark day a dark night even oh such a great movie oh it's it is a it was an absolute piss until like the third act that was what it really felt like it I think wait that not much happened in the first third the first third was really slow as we were watching it it was by the time that the third act is when it completely like it wasn't good before that but it wasn't like the worst thing it's only the worst thing in the DC we still had Granny's Peach Tea it was the second act right yeah but like I said I said it's still bad it's just that the third act was when it collapsed completely I remember we had that feeling or like halfway through maybe it was at that point I'm just thinking back to like remember where Bruce is just like for some reason completely unaware of the the messages that are being sent to him in blood or whatever about his parents being dead on the I remember being like we were having we were having serious trouble trying to figure out what the fuck the plotline even was perhaps the show should be called He Wong if you said like I wouldn't it be better to have a show that's all about Wong be like maybe it would have been at some time ago not anymore no more nothing in phase 5 could make me think man I really miss M MVOM or MOM I guess the foreshadowing is strong with this one I don't this is the thing I don't I don't see myself saying it I see myself saying yep this is MOM tier sort of thing because that movie like just just obliterates every element of everything in it it's all gone you can't really be worse than that other than doing the same thing and just having more happen in the amount of time which I guess Avengers movies could do but again I still just put them in the same category for the most part like something could be worse than MOM but I don't think I'll ever say like man I wish we could have MOM again just like no nothing never my fiance just left me yesterday and today my grandma died comes in threes I've heard sorry for bringing the mood down you guys really helped me distract myself I'm gonna use this pain to lift weights now and try and get better God bless I got you very glad that we could you know occupy your time for a while and hopefully you enjoyed yourself and it took your mind off things for a for a bit we appreciate having you here and that's why we boot up these streams and chat about these wonderful pieces of media is hopefully we can we can recycle all this content into some form of joy absolutely hopefully gets better as the days go by get get swole as they say absolutely maybe they think he's an idiot because in Doctor Strange he doesn't know what Beyonce is you know because he's monk of the mystic arts the thing is like I can believe he doesn't know who Beyonce is if he works at Kamatage but I don't believe he doesn't understand the concept of law that's just silly and I don't even know that does he not know who Beyonce is or just he doesn't listen to his music I can't remember if it was he just never heard of Beyonce because I guess that is a little bit strange but it just means that he's not plugged into mainstream shit at all but that is again like that's not the same thing as not knowing what law is right but She-Hulk we need to uphold America's law as Wong oh yeah that's the kind of dialogue you can expect now Laugh Man so if these dudes are cousins of the dawn I mean the guys who are like just trying to ask women out and are being considered disgusting I said he was yeah he was dawn 2.0 cause you present like with the dawn you're like okay I guess that was I guess you did touch her map slightly on the spectrum of a fence that's somewhere on the spectrum of a fence I suppose but Dennis I guess that's his name what a what is your problem with it like have you ever been out like in the world among humans if this is it makes me think these people have never actually been harassed because they think this is what harassment is he's a lawyer with a six figure bank account and he's trying to date someone and she's like what a fucking idiot you are alright obviously if you're simply referring to the fact that with his personality traits you would never be able to get that far with anyone that's one thing but they seem to treat it as though much more of a like you know Megan Thee Stallion is just too good for you like okay Wings quote of the day sometimes eating less isn't the answer sometimes eating more is the answer they said in brackets I don't think this plan worked out what would the context have been for saying sometimes eating more is the answer maybe an eating contest where the guy's like oh how do I win this eating contest and someone's like you know sometimes eating more is the answer someone else doesn't you listen to Beyoncé in the movie though it's like yeah that's after he's made aware of her he then starts listening to the music full joke dogs have heat vision yes that's a real fact it's true I can see in heat that's it's an option it's an option that I have it's like predator vision you could cycle through all the different you know generally I just have my normal vision on because that's what everyone else uses and you know it's just easy like that but if I ever am in a dark room and I have to find something hot or cold you just sort of swap your vision there my eyes they do and then you can see like transformer absolutely absolutely just like transformers Australia what the actual fuck of the day yara my yahoo just read it's wiki god why fringy why also high metal JK high rags fuck you metal they want you to wiki that wiki wiki yada yada my yahoo is this one of the doctors I'm assuming it's some kind of plan that makes you kill yourself or whatever it's from the cryptid wiki so it's some sort of critter let's see I will give you a picture and I will read you the description oh my gosh it's from Australia they have a little spot spots on the map here that is the yara my yahoo the yara my yahoo is a blood sucking creature from aboriginal folklore that lurks in the tree tops until a person would walk under it and then it would leap from the tree onto the person suck almost all its blood and swallow them whole after swallowing the poor soul it would regurgitate the person up take a drink of water and nap then wake up to puke the person out over and over and as it does this he or she will become shorter and redder each time until they themselves become a yara my yahoo wow I would have thought they just die once all their blood is gone but alright pretty creepy is the existence of a yara my yahoo like pain or is it chill that changes the fear of getting tinned into one maybe they got it right no it doesn't change the fear at all for me honestly whether they how they personally feel about it or what life led this to that point it sounds horrific really you becoming a yara my yahoo you don't care one way or the other if they have a happy existence well I suppose my current mindset is not revolving around the inevitability I will become one it's avoiding that happening in the first place I would find it to be a slightly less horrifying experience if I knew that by the time I turn into the yara my yahoo I'm gonna be happy I suppose so it's like yeah I guess so though I can't imagine that it's I don't know well let me offer this if you did that to people and you were happy doing it that's almost like a different kind of hellishness isn't it I suppose so the fact that that kind of evil would bring you joy makes me kind of want to avoid it even more in a sense well you doing it either way right what if you really despise doing it but you do it because you know which is the which is the worst existence there I don't know like it's there's an element of if I was happy doing it yeah sure that'd be better for me personally but there's some it just feels wrong you know it feels wrong for me to want myself to be happy doing that like it's not right that I should feel that way conundrum because if you choose the other it's like who have you benefited at all nobody and you just made your life worse I'm not going to pray to be a to to be you would generally avoid becoming a Yarmou Yahu is what you're saying yeah I'm trying to use the Kennedy quote is like do not pray to be a happy Yarmou Yahu pray to pray to be a stronger human or dog in my case I'm not sure how that one translates I think you got it mubishly do any British people unironically say blimey you are the people who are like 90 years old but that's about it oh blimey I don't think that's really it's not said around me much maybe I'm an anti-blimist but I don't even say I should I should say that more blimey get on that are you a hulk first or a lawyer first no bullshit wait wait wait we just talked we just talked about an Australian monster for that long and Fringy didn't say a word what do I do just because I'm Australian you demand you demand that I chime in yeah oh wow you demand it jeez I've got no choice but I've never heard of that critter before yeah if you don't give us your opinion the Yarmou Yahu will jump down from his tree I mean it's a scary concept based on that description wow what insight gosh what do you want me to say we already settled that part Fringy I would like you to try a little harder apply yourself what do you want from me are your shoulders tired from carrying this because I feel like my shoulders are just and I was shooting on Monday me and Rags pose this very interesting question I have this great back and forth and there you are playing fucking Splatoon not knowing what's even happening are you playing Splatoon oh Fringy what do you think about has Splatoon 3 come out yet it is out I'm playing Splatoon 3 how is Splatoon 3 I've been enjoying it I think something I'm wondering as I'm playing it more is it is a very iterative sequel it is an incredibly iterative sequel it's only like tweaks and improvements couple new weapons which is fine I guess I wonder if the game is as content rich as it probably ought to be given that like if there's not going to be any substantial changes to the core which are kind of unnecessary you know how much more content should be in the game I wonder because the last game Splatoon 2 introduced a campaign and co-op so those are like pretty major additions this one has all of those same modes so it only really has a couple new modes a couple new weapon types but and yet it's been like 5 years since 2 and 2 was only 2 years separated from the first one so I'm not sure I've been having a lot of fun with it it's a really fun game I guess I wonder how substantial of an upgrade it is or if it's more like just minor improvements and tweaks but yeah I'm happy with it it's fun someone said Rax is almost 3 beers in no I've just finished the first I'm operating entirely I am completely lucid if you can believe it I'm just enjoying this conversation I just love to be here with all my friends talking about sheen that's Yarmia Hoos Splatoon Shuckles Demons from the hell dimension Thanks for streaming on my birthday I know you did it on purpose that's true that guy's birthday today we best stream oh shit yeah and we did I will say we try to stream on everyone's birthday however chances are that if your birthday is on a Saturday or a Wednesday we'll probably get to you first well I mean everybody's going to eventually fall on a Wednesday we covered most birthdays I think right at this point yeah well if it's four years yeah I think after four years it's in fact it would be downright unlikely to not have been if you include all of the bonus shit we do I feel like we're getting there oh yeah let me check to see which one was on my birthday can you check that well you could check the Booler uploads yeah I want to see if I could just search for date in like the little search bar and it shows up um no is there a way to search that let me go to filters upload date it just says like this month this week this today last hour is there a way to do that I wish cause I would be curious which one is on my birthday let me go I guess I got a Mooler and I'll just videos so this month is September so I'm fucking terrible with months what does it mean to be terrible with months like what is the source of confusion being able to I've always had difficulty I have to use my fingers to count which month is which number month I've just never been able to I just always have done that so if you told me which month of the year is June I'd be like ah and then I'd have to count it out cause I just don't remember I'd say cause like you would say oh September is obviously 7th and October is obviously 8th no not ah bitches not ah that's a hold over it's not how the world works so I gotta uh April so that one's April so uh maybe if it's this one nope the keffel's one no not keffel denims and all relevant is the arcane super chat catch up no uh they gotta go back further let's see I'm so curious I need to know what we're getting closer okay what's the more that's fair that's fair hello hello and fringy yo been watching efap at work for a few months finishing episode 50 I'll catch up eventually may the dawn be with you well enjoy the adventure sir we'll see you when you get you up of all the unbelievable things in the show the fact she can't get tinder matches is baffling guys are desperate she should have at least a hundred matches yeah yeah I think I commented on that while I was watching it that I'm trying to make a point he hold gets the results because men no men they don't want attractive uh intelligent hard working lawyers with prestigious degrees no uh they want green monster ladies um I mean I would imagine there were plenty of people who would sleep with she help yeah totally no I yeah I totally would fucking in a second it's just that the idea that she as a human doesn't get anyone interested I'm like I just don't I don't believe you I just don't believe you you're an attractive successful you know lawyer and you like people haven't met you yet so they don't know that you're an insufferable cunt so you can't use that as an excuse of course you get matches I already assumed you were going from the whole bad madam yet when you said she was intelligent well I will people see lawyer and they assume you're intelligent yeah right generally I don't think it's unreasonable to some people are they are a lawyer yeah phase four seems like for his death after all and kind of yeah those were five or six I guess I went through Mueller there is this year there's not one of my birthday there's one the day after my birthday which is our finale for Boba Fett finale episode for Boba Fett Boba Boba Boba Fett Boba Boba Boba Boba Boba Boba Fett Boba Fett Moran Gang at She-Hulk Episode 4 with the voice of Martin Blower from Hot Fuzz Stop writing Wong is such a titanic tizmic turd true stop writing stop writing boy Morley finally started Buffy with the wife and I gotta ask if you see this too is and they got a question um nah I think I think you'd agree the two characters getting played there are completely different and neither I think are uh bad in any way I mean I could see where you go in terms of the inspiration of it but as with high rags and Fringold hello yo yo does anyone check out edge runners on Netflix nah that's uh shadow the hedgehog cyberpunk 2077 anime whoa do you think they like commission that before it turned out to be a horrific terrible mess and so I'm pretty sure our city project red recently said that they plan to like continue building their little cyberpunk universe so they're not giving up on it alright it's probably the smart thing to do fix that reputation lads well because I think for that but that expansion is it for 2077 and that's the end and then they'll be moving on so I guess 2078 I guess I am far more okay with dice abandoning a battlefield and admitting it was all terrible a mistake and they'll never do it again I'm actually kind of fine with that but I'm not fine with them abandoning like something like cyberpunk that's totally I'm pretty sure that uh Marcus Lito he was the art director on uh a lot of the bungee halo games um he's now in charge of like narrative or something at uh a disc or like I think he might be the creative director of the series it's something like that I think um the guy who's being in charge of battlefield basically since it began has left there's been a lot of high pro bonnie ross left 343 and they've got like now magic change oh yeah yeah I posted that link in there there was a lot of shake ups and changes with I'm sure that the engine lead at 343 has also gone too the guy who was like the lead on the engine so yeah lots of uh the engine lead the guy who was the lead on the engine yes he is the lead on the engine it's his fault like his responsibility because the engine's got some cool aspects to it and it seems like um it seems like forge is gonna be really cool but man desync what what happened like what was what's the problem there man they bungled that game so much yeah I was really looking forward to a good halo game uh oh well I still have my old other things to play a honeymoon period of like man this is really fun and then oh yeah this is it this is it and even what we had was you know it was terrible not terrible you know not terrible at all I I think it's got a good course wow we don't include the fact that the yeah the desync issue which is a big one I knew there was something about that game that was just like because I'm pretty darn good at first person shooters and so when I whenever I pick up one and things just don't add up I notice and that just seemed to happen so much playing that game where I was like this like this is a game that's most like other first person shooters but this is the halo that I seemed to be doing the worst at and I'm like something's weird here yeah I feel it it's like I know I hit that guy yeah it's uh I'll just unload into people and I'll just like die and they have the same issue as well like it was I can't remember it was it's a video it's like madness at 343 or it was like some sort of comprehensive just breakdown of uh what 343's tenure on halo is essentially um brought about and um one of the things that was shown was like you'd have these competitive games of like halo 3 on like MCC where some guy would snipe somebody and you could literally see blood popping out of the guy that he shot and it doesn't register yeah because I generally in games those blood effects are client side yeah and then everybody in chat like on the live stream is like blood effects like what happened it's just yeah the the blood effects are a really good way to sort of know that it's happening because in games it'll it'll almost always happen to some degree in games the idea is that you're gonna have it as little and as little as few times as possible yeah but in the case of MCC it's been a persistent issue for years and I'm pretty sure that there was a video that a guy made that was highlighting the decent issue and they were like I think they're on like the pro team the in-house pro team like making fun of that video um it's like man oof he's pointing out like a real issue in the game it's like not a great move to make fun of make fun of him for that but yeah when it happens in a game it should surprise and shock me it shouldn't be like oh it happened again great yeah uh yeah no I don't know it's uh it's like this little I think uh Mike who I always fuck up is geochina the composer is actually directing it it's like this little one-off Halloween special kind of looks interesting it's like it doesn't look like other stuff that they make like it seems to be going for more of like a vintage camp style like it looks unique for what Marvel typically does cool to each of you what is your most disliked trope used by writers to explain away inconsistencies in plot or characters I often get frustrated whenever they make a character drunk because I'm like oh no are they gonna make them do crazy thing there is really plot critical especially at a particularly critical time it's like uh yep they got drunk now of all times whenever a character says as you all know that tends to be annoying because it's like uh yes as we all know so be sure to explain it in complete and utter detail yeah even the when people make emotional appeals a lot of the times as if they can explain sort of everything a lot of the times they kind of like they did with Wanda right you know she was sad well she was I was three stricken plus the book if ever you if ever you wonder the book just like guys you do a very good job of explaining the book you just sort of it's very confusing like in terms of just how much the book has influence or not but I think they just wanted to sort of you fill that gap with the book in the same way for gore by the way fill the gaps with just the sword the sword did it if you think that works it did it um yeah and this one is said in chat lamp shading as a form of explaining like yeah we noticed it too it's like as a form of as a form of not explaining even it's like yeah it's like a masquerade like when they highlight it they're like they wink at the camera and you're like that didn't do anything that didn't do anything it's even worse you know it's a problem you don't care yeah play metroid fusion on the stream with the group what does it mean to play metroid fusion in a group I do not know that's fusion was a it was a 2D one metroid fusion right on the gameboy yeah there's a group super metroid super mas alrighty metroid prime board is the thing that's happening at some stage that'll be cool when it's when it finally arrives it got announced 2017 holy shit so pick a power alrighty got teleportation but it's limited to six times a day flight it's linked to your actual stamina super strength you're limited to a 250 pound weight I guess or laser vision 15 of range teleportation could you write the the two like not the two then down well if I can I think we can make this a little bit easier to start with I'm assuming all three of us would knock out laser vision yeah I don't need I do not need later but yeah I don't need it in my life ever whatsoever to my knowledge I literally can yeah I just the super strength one is puzzling me the 250 pound limit makes me think like like if ever I'm trying to do something and it hits 251 do I like to break me or do I like if we go with the decent I'll take a good interpretation of that where that's the point where we really start to just struggle and strain to the point that it's effortless because I like that one I like it too it's my number two choice I know it's my number three choice also is the thing teleportation that's what I picked instantly yeah once I heard all of them I assume I assume freezing I know what I want to reference about like I got my I got my worries about teleportation in terms of if it's continuity of consciousness yeah well if it's like a portal where you step through the portal I mean I feel like the best there's a normal interpretation teleportation is that you go bloop and you get somewhere else you know like nightcrawler kind of thing yeah I guess it depends on the mechanism by which it happens but I do understand like yeah but if it's the Star Trek method then I don't no no thanks bro yeah I'm knocking that out for safety if they could if they said it was the portals from Doctor Strange something then yeah I'm fine with it that would be my pick yeah I'm picking that in a heartbeat if it's the portals but if it's portal teleportation like blinks power however if it isn't then no but flight if it was blinks I'd take that for sure yeah flight is I can't see myself using flight as much though I don't know then I'm not sure I think it's just enjoyment I was worrying about getting caught with that one because obviously you'll become like a second anybody sees you flying oh yeah the dog that can fly yeah that's true yeah that's right I know what you mean I think I'd still take it on the risk that I mean obviously you can get caught with the teleportation anyone too it's just that you could wear a mask while you're flying big goggles or something and no one would know well I feel like you need big goggles because if you're flying around that is true you'd probably need goggles probably wear a motorcycle helmet which would double as and on imiti yeah but yeah just for fun however that strength one don't sleep on it because if you could effortlessly lift things of 250 pounds that's you could probably use that in a lot of apple cages throughout your life it'll be a non-stop help that one because it's not just that it's not just that it lets you lift things that heavy it means that all the stuff you normally lift is just that much easier anyway pushing like if you could just effortlessly move everything in your house like one of the reasons I bet a lot of people don't you know just move stuff around is because there's a pain in the ass and I assume that yeah that's probably got a lot of applications for that but yeah assuming best version of teleportation like a blink or a just like you're just there or it's a portal you step through that's the one I'm going through if that's the version of teleportation it is the first choice by a mile now you can use it six times a day which means that you're going to you're essentially going to three places because you have to get back as well unless you plan it out ahead and you only have to use the last one to get home but yeah you could go anywhere from three to five places during the day and even days where you don't have to do much stuff you know if you want to just pop in say hi to the folks if you want to visit a relative say hi if you want to see a friend if you want to just sight see around the world you just go like boom I would love to go to the Grand Canyon or I'd love to go to Yosemite National Park you know I could go there Yosemite? that's a meme isn't it? it is a meme I hope Yosemite was a meme I hope that we haven't done something new today no no it is a meme do not you worry I haven't been there but I would really like to go is that a familiar meme chat calling Yosemite Yosemite Sam Yosemite Sam apparently you've been you've been you've been saved by chat it's a yeah it's a little thing where you purposefully mispronounce something yeah but you have someone said regarding flight how do you solve the how do you solve the icing problem if you are flying so high so it's going to be limited to your stamina was built into the question which means that I'm never going to fly too high for fear that I'll get tired I don't know if there's like a gliding element that comes into it or if you get like exhausted you could glide down slowly but I don't think I'd ever fly so high that ice could become an issue because you have to you have to go fuck that Rack I want to be like Icarus and flying to the sun fuck that contrary to popular belief the further you go up it does not get warmer it does eventually once you get I guess once you get to the sun you once you leave the atmosphere you'll be like fried on one side and freezing on the other side well that didn't happen in TLJ so I don't know what you're talking about whatever fucking monstrosity but yeah it would I think the flight thing would be mainly for just just the enjoyment of it the thrill of it and that will get different mileage for different people like I love roller coasters and just the feeling of vertigo and stuff like that I really like it so I'd probably get a whole bunch of value out of just being able to fly around even if it was limited by stamina to some degree I'm a pretty healthy guy though it would diminish in effectiveness through your life as you just became older and not as you could be you could be fucking fit as shit as an old person but that's something you have to really work at but yeah like boogie if he chose flight he'd just be able to jump high oh my god how would you even say that flight was limited by stamina he could just about manage a float a meter above the floor or something I just need to get it's basically like he's like a big balloon floating around it's like baron diggy for a why am I forgetting his name baron hockenden oh yeah that's right by the way yo I met up with some friends last weekend that's why I was gone for the e-fap we played this kick ass dune board game it's I think the game I think is from the late 70s or something but they re-released it for the dune movie that came out a few years ago and I need to uh let me see if I can get a picture of it okay it is I'll post it in chat here we played this dune board game and it is fucking it's got some elements that I don't like about it but I had a great time playing this game with a bunch of you know a bunch of friendos I played as the benegesserit there's all these factions and each faction have their own you know rule set and win conditions and it's a little bit complicated to learn the rules at first but then once you get them down you could really go through things I really highly highly recommend dune the board game all right yeah good shit I'm gonna say something once again place the board it was actually random we actually divvied up factions randomly we had I was the benegesserit and I made an alliance with the fremen player and we did fucking pits and then oddly enough there were three other players and two of them who were house of tradies and house harkinen they made an alliance as well so and then we had the spacing guild as our other player so it was really fun highly recommend if you want a meaty game a meaty board game do you think the supervillains meet up movie bob has that same problem but he does with that whole thing and he's like they're all sharing their powers bob's like I can fly and they're like flying yeah flying you know the other guy there like a supervillain too but he can also fly he's like doing all these cool and awesome fast tricks and he's like fly too and then movie bob just slowly rises a couple centimeters off the ground and just goes forward and he's like you can float he's like no I can fly and it's not really flying it's more of a float he's like no I can fly and then they have to like submit their powers to be approved of by some kind of agency one punch man style and they're just like the judges have to decide whether that counts as flying or floating what would be the line how would you guys figure that out or is floating a different process is that how it's determined I don't know does flying have anything to do with aerodynamics I don't know does flying have anything to do with aerodynamics I guess what I'm saying is is there a definition of flying that pertains to you know like how planes achieve lift and stuff like is that process specifically like partially what defines flight versus other things I would assume if I was going to if I was going to make like a legal difference especially it would probably be how you it's flight as long as you can propel at a certain speed and direction and it's floating if you just like if you it's almost like extremely slow flight hovering okay so hovering hovering and floating would be synonymous I think in legal terms I think hovering and floating are the same though both of those would be the different words for the same thing hovering and floating which is almost like flight's little bitch sister right? what do I imagine would happen if movie Bob only got off the floor by like a couple of centimeters he was off the floor and then he went over the edge of a cliff I'm picturing he would immediately plummet so it must be tied then he's pushing off from the floor rather than only able to it would take him longer to get to terminal of a lot or maybe it's like a balloon right? maybe yeah well it's going to go down all the way it'll just do it slowly because you're exerting force upwards with your flight power but you don't have much stamina or strength so that force is not enough to overcome gravity so you're just falling at a slower speed than you would if you were just falling normally I would if is lift based on forward or upward propulsion I think it is I think it is an upward based because thrust is your forward propulsion thrust is forward lift is up drag is back and gravity is down we we could be your probably the best friend on this I'm not an airplane oh man yeah I never learned about aerodynamics like or maybe I did not totally forgot about that but I think this is why this is what the altitude limit is for planes it is set by the air as far as I know the atmosphere eventually gets too thin to provide enough lift for the planes to stay up it was in that film ever the guy who got rescued via helicopter who was incredibly difficult because the air was so thin that high up in Everest that like helicopters are yeah chat someone said there's a never ending debate on whether lift is downward or upward okay right I assumed it was upwards I've looked up on Wikipedia aerodynamic force has a little diagram that has lift as an upward and drag as in the drag is back lift is an upward acting force that's what allows the plane to stay in the air because the bottom of the wings produce Wikipedia says lift is the force Wikipedia says lift is the force component perpendicular to the direction of relative motion okay alrighty yeah how can lift not be up again I don't know you fabbing the show for this lift I'm pretty confident lift is an upward force I imagine that it makes it's intuitively it makes sense as an upward force lift up, weight down, drag back, thrust forward if thrust is a part of like uh this by the way is the judge's conversation and Boobosha's floating in front of him waiting to know if he counts as a flyer haha the judge just pulls up Wikipedia and starts reading it it's like okay I found a movie Robert do you have lift he's like um maybe do you eat lift oh okay uh thrust is also an aerodynamic force what yeah that makes sense however only only two exist in space can you guess which two they are oh well only two of the aerodynamic force um well there wouldn't be drag gravity still exists there's no air resistance there's gravity in space it's just weaker or stronger depending on where you are and then when you say it exists there do you mean it can or does if you know what I mean put thrust as in space create thrust correct if you have in the near vacuum of space can you achieve thrust with an absence of air isn't like thrust isn't thrust uh yeah cause thrust is created by propellers and jet engines on which can they do anything like in space well obviously we call thrust as in space because we have rockets yeah that's right yeah by the way this is something yeah we have this is something I've seen flat earthers say that space doesn't make sense because you have to be you have to have a medium to push off of in order for thrust to work which is not at all how physics works but the only two forces that act on you and the vacuum of space are going to be uh weight and thrust weight sorry hold on I thought isn't the difference between mass and weight that like weight is relative or am I mixing them up weight weight is the force of gravity on an object yeah but mass is the description of like that oh shit I know how much is actually in the thing essentially yeah how much stuff the thing you're saying that the only two things that you have in space are weight and thrust yeah because lift and drag which is going to be created by your movement through air they're going to be absent in the vacuum of space yeah of course yeah um why was gravity even in the mix then because weight weight is the yeah right yeah because there's always gravity it's just weaker or stronger or like basically imperceptible but it's always present and yeah and chat as someone had mentioned it in the near vacuum of space right you will still we call it weightlessness but I mean there is a force of gravity that will pull you towards the planet but it's it's that little fun factoid right every single thing in the universe in every place in all times is exerting some level of influence on you even if it's like universal gravity billions and billions what's that influence in you yeah and I'm influencing you me listen just because you just because you have a gravitational influence on me from Wales doesn't mean you need to make these five hour long videos on multiverse of madness okay well I'll have you know I just made a seven hour long video with you all right think about that there's a video in the same way that a video is edited I suppose yeah I say it's made of seven hour could end up being an eight hour I don't even know I suppose I'll find out by reading the next super chat that's the end of the physics discussion hi guys you should he knows about the movie severance with Danny Dyer I you have I'm this Halloween I am I remember that one I don't remember being that good but it might be funny we'll be busy this Halloween we'll be watching but maybe someday hi rags hello I got a ruga max nine for everyday carry do you have a favorite red dot site or do you prefer iron sights I don't have a favorite red dot site for I guess I don't have a favorite I've tried a variety that worked just fine but I do prefer um I do not prefer iron sights to like red dot sites red dot sites are very amazing scopes and red dot sites are very amazing I do not at all prefer iron sights over them however shooting with iron sights is a good skill that you should know because it trains your ability to just shoot well in general how how you align two different things and keeping your aim steady and just teaching your eyes what to focus on and how to look down you know rifle sights to a target it's very important and you should know how to shoot with irons but they're not irons are not superior at all to modern sighting systems laser laser sights laser I I have a laser sight on my on a Glock of mine I never actually used it to shoot because I haven't I haven't used it to shoot though it's on one of my blocks I haven't used that aspect because it was this last time last couple times I took it to shoot it was during the day and I was shooting a fair distance however just you could and it doesn't produce the like in video games generally you just going to see a dot where you're pointing it there's not going to be like a red laser going to it but I can see how it can be incredibly useful thing if you're in a sufficiently dark enough environment for it to actually show up on a target and it can be really good for they often like that visual movies where they have a dark place and several soldiers coming with all their laser sight guns and still do yeah they really like that but of course there's there's tactically you obviously don't want to have a big laser where yeah absolutely in video games it's used as a negative to balance things in Predator 2 there are torches that give them away in it and it's like um then you get some look up the chaos agent skin in Fortnite it has a familiar appearance it's the one that looks like me everyone always links chaos 8 yeah he's the gas mask wearing a smartly dressed man interesting complete rip off of course terrible terrible victory has a thousand fathers because everyone wants the credit victory is an orphan because no one wants the blame there you go yeah yeah settled just finished Fallout New Vegas for the first time I'm disappointed I put it off for so long the game's amazing now I have a question on your first ever play through which faction did you end up siding with in the end and why I think it was I think it was Mr House but I forget what my reasoning was I think I had a misunderstanding of what you might be able to do after the game was over or what would happen but I think on my first play through I went with Mr House ending or no it was the robot yes man I think yeah but that was that was a long time ago galaxy far far away however the I did it was one of my a big complaint about Fallout 4 is you get to a certain point and you get to a certain mission and it settled like you hit that point where you committed to a faction and they're ending and everything and I don't think there was a sufficient warning before that happens so on my play through of Fallout 4 it's like oh you're with the brotherhood now oh okay I guess I'm with the brotherhood now and then it like ends your thing with all the other factions and stuff is hmm I wish you would have told me before hand but oh well if the writers of She-Hulk became lawmakers what laws would they make they get rid of them all they get in the way and then they would be surprised when everything goes to shit they would definitely have equal laws for men and women because that's what the show is it's very egalitarian and consistent and it's more like ego-laritarian madness I talked to my dad about the show and he said he liked it I think he's lost when are you we are going to have to so this is the thing our Wednesday slots are supposed to be catching up if we need them but right now we are overflowed with things we need to cover and I don't want to fuck up like like doing half of Rings of Power and none of the half of She-Hulk or you know Andor's coming up so what we'll we'll try and figure out is getting a couple of days to record when me, Rags of Ring, even have a free hour or so and then I'll edit them all together but don't worry that'll be signposted hardcore the ones they will be dealt with we'll be addressed we still gotta address portions of Thor and Prey to but um I'm hopeful we will get it all done as we are getting these done today you still can't believe you said syndrome is worse than screen slaver oh my god who said that nobody hopefully yeah I don't even like remember anything about screen slaver uh just that that was the villain I don't remember I'm actually legit the same right now I know the visual too but I can't remember what the motive was she hated superheroes because uh they made people weaken complacent and reliant on them instead of relying on themselves ooh that feels like it's a good idea for a pretty poorly that's an idea that I'm a-okay with that as a concept because I think a more meaningful way to explore that would be if societally we get complacent because of the existence of superheroes rather than individuals who aren't really in a position to protect themselves relying on superheroes to help them in times of crisis especially if your thing is screen slaver and your issue is with superheroes sounds like your issues just with like modern civilization turning people soft is like yeah I mean if she's using technology to abet her ends right like that's probably something worth exploring but I don't know I don't know what it is but Incredibles 2 is like pretty obviously less interesting in terms of what it has to say about superheroes in the first one like syndrome is a great idea for a villain screen slaver is like I guess it's okay it could be done really well but yeah Belling the alphabet backwards is a strange power yeah I can't do it yo I've got an aunt who can do that she could just do it and I've never been able to I mean I imagine all of us would be able to do it if we put our minds to learning it but like I just don't know why I would okay ready Oh Fringy is suspiciously quiet during this discussion about the Yarromahoo yeah he might be a Yarromahoo that could be one I know that's not I've never even heard of that critter yeah I've never heard of it either alright Ragzy had you ever heard of this crazy creature before I had never heard of it no never heard of the Yarromahoo see the rainbow serpent I'm familiar with with the old rainbow serpent that's a much more well known dream time story true oh I don't know about the rainbow serpent do tell us about the rainbow serpent so well as I believe as I understand I believe the rainbow serpent was essentially responsible for creating the world as he like traversed the land and by doing that it created mountains and whatnot me I can't remember much beyond that though it's more the visual and a rainbow serpent is like a nifty little thing it's like um an adventure time oh yeah right I guess yeah I guess it's similar to that except I guess one is a well she's a long unicorn right yeah oh Molly you like that I like long consider this super speed up to light speed but you can't instant stop you slow down by dropping up to half of the current speed per minute Jesus Christ forever to get back to normal light speed half light speed then half that half that half that half that once per minute how long does it take to get back to normal I don't even know someone will be able to figure that out there right I don't know I assume any it probably wouldn't if it's by minute I mean if you cut that in half I mean it's like it gets hmm because half light speed than a quarter than an eighth then yeah um I don't know how long that would take because I assume you get to a you get to a point where you could just like stop normally and safely but I mean that would that one take like I don't would that take that long I guess it's going to be real you're having it long do you I don't know let's see so let's see speed of speed of light so let's take that in meters a second let's go to our calculator calculator okay divided by two someone's like you can't just slow down instantly from light speeding it's like we also can't travel a light speed it's just a human can't travel a light speed when they try and pull real physics on me but it's like a clear fantasy question so in only I would say in 20 minutes you will have gone from light speed to 43 meters a second and that's 20 minutes so that is totally doable I mean apply a plane flight will begin its descent so to speak you know it could be you know 30 25 minutes as it sort of begins its descent stage but yeah if after 20 minutes you're at let's just do 10 more minutes go to 30 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 yeah and 30 minutes you're moving at 0.14 meters a second so yeah absolutely I had a feeling it wouldn't actually be that bad at all yeah and you're gonna plan ahead so you're not an airplane I don't understand like how it's gonna function say I wanted to go from Earth to Mars I roll up my lights but I'm already fucked like I was trying to nail that because I'm a person if you travel in a straight line but let me see here so distance to Mars is 82.1 million miles light speed so how long does it take let me see how long give me just a second here it looks like damn it just tell me the question here okay closest possible approach light travels at approximately a light shining from the surface of Mars would take the following amount of time to reach Earth so 12 minutes from Earth to Mars so on average it is just over 12 and a half minutes yeah I remember that because Earth is 8 minutes or so from the Sun light speed and then Mars is like 20 minutes from the Sun so if and that's average too for the farthest approach is 22 minutes but let's say you take off at light speed and instantly decelerate or very quickly start that deceleration process I assume there is a point in time where you go light speed for X seconds or X minutes you start the deceleration process and you're at Mars in under half an hour so that's amazing well no your light speed is amazing I'm saying that you got to eyeball all these things you don't get a computer to work it out oh no how the fuck are you going to have it how is that even going to make sense is you controlling it oh I thought it was like you like a you as in not like just your body but okay if it was just you what were you picturing like a helmet like a computer system or technology that allows you to do this I was picturing it as like a form of flight like super fast flight okay I was picturing it as like an engine type or a craft a vehicle of some sort and that's how it because I thought this was about like inertial how do you deal with the inertia of moving at light speed you decelerate or whatever and even that's whatever just the technology that's the way that it works like if we had a universe where that was the engines that they used or the spaceships I assume that was the point of the trade off is that we can do it ourselves the bad side is you're going to have to wait a significant amount of time for it to land but my problem with that is it should take great significant issues for me to be trying to land in specific places I want to land yeah it because yeah the human I would you the human mind wouldn't be able to to deal with that much like if you take off at the speed of light you're you're gone you're just you've left that you can't now I think the brain just can't comprehend that kind of like stuff's whizzing past you how do you not hit anything even if you say go stop you're already way ahead of your target if you're trying to go to Mars yeah because the flight travels light distance per second so in a second that's 186,000 miles a second so and the let's say the center of the earth is only 79 7,918 miles which means that if you wanted to let me take my calculator here clear all that do to do then use your vision of course as well because you're spotting Mars when you're pretty far away is going to be tough as well see 7,918 so you'd have to like 0.04 of a second is how long you could get we you'd have to it would take for you to travel the diameter of the earth I assume in a lot of these questions there's some element of like you like you could deal with it in this like if you could move at the speed of light there's some like it's baked into the question that maybe you could just sort of handle it to entertain what you would do with it or it's practical there are some people pointing out like it's like a trick question because you'll never stop moving technically and it's like I don't think that was the point of the question that is true yes if you decelerate by half every single time then technically you'd never stop moving because when I did to the 30th second there on the calculator the thought I had was oh after sorry the 30 minute of the 30 minute mark you're moving at 0.14 meters per second eventually when you decelerate to safe levels you could just stop yeah like getting off the ride or whatever yeah exactly so I can go back to my calculator and go one two three four five six yeah so if you go back to like the 23 minute mark you're going at only you're going at under 18 meters a second which is like you that's like where you could come to a sort of a stop you just sort of like you know hit the brakes and really kind of so really yeah if the price of light speed especially in a spaceship if the so-called cost of breaking safely with the technology or the spaceship engine was that you had to decelerate half speed every minute that's still amazing like magic space technology that would make you know like if that's the best that humanity as a civilization ever got to man you might want to just take it because some of these things might not even be possible with the laws of physics I hope there's a way but it's not going to be for our generation to worry about just got to be those giants they stand on later still going I'm finishing up EFAP 150 part three I'll catch up by the best holiday this year take care you message for the year well yeah good stuff looking forward to to seeing everyone catch right up to the modern time I contend lift is definitely an upward force it's not a debate at all and you have mass not weight in space you neanderthals also you absolutely have weight in space what sir I think I said that there's a difference between massive weight is relative to gravity right weight is the force of gravity yeah but in space you still have weight that's why things in orbit I said I just remember when I did physics we would refer to mass not weight typically a lot of times it's more yeah however weight is certainly like like the whole point of flying is that you're overcoming that that that pull of gravity downwards so you're going to use that makes more sense when we're talking about stuff that's just on earth right but once we're in space once we're in space yes you still have weight but it is significantly less that's why like spaceships yeah that's why yeah it was in chat mass is consistent that's like for instance my mass on earth is the same as my mass on Mars but my weight will differ what if I go to the fifth dimension I mean we could go even further well if you what could I do with that well interstellar great band address this so I don't need sure yeah if you climb Mount Everest you know the higher you go up the less you weigh by I guess a negligible degree though right let me check like like nothing basically imperceivable because you're still you're still relatively speaking incredibly like not much has changed in terms of your distance yeah it's very tiny I assume it would be negligible though it would be measurable so like I would be shocked if it was a pound of different well maybe I don't know I it's hard for me to visualize this make a guess honestly weight I have to weight difference with height gives me a bunch of like health stuff so let me go weight difference with altitude okay a person who weighs 150 pounds on the surface of the earth would weigh approximately 149.92 pounds at 1,000 feet above sea level so yes it is very very small difference however this is activated chat it killed the Wong memes almost everyone's offering their opinions on the space shit now we're talking about science they've been talking about magic boom they happen and it's all sorcery sorry the super chat continued also have you ever fired ace to kato rags your favorite pistol my favorite pistol um my favorite pistol I mean if I could take one pistol it probably be my Glock 34 I but I like many pistols I really like 1911 and I've and I one of the guns a shot of Monday was a I IWI Jericho it's I think it was a I forget which version it was but IWI Jericho that was really cool that was I really like that quite a bit I tried some others here and there but I guess no amazing answers from me I mean I did shoot both the deagle and the Smith & Wesson 500 that I shot those were both very unpleasant they can go through like anything desert eagle I mean it's just it was to shoot a desert eagle finally in 50 AE that is that gun is absurd alright a desert eagle is very heavy um it was it was very I mean the 500 that's a mean gun but the desert eagle like it's it skirts that upper line of how ridiculous can you get and still technically have some level of practicality it's like this is why are you complaining about the weight of a gun that can literally shoot through the earth like what's the what why would you shoot through the earth he can't be trusted with that kind of power they're fucking legal how are they legal we could end the planet at any moment someone just shoots the core because they're bored it'll fuck everything up and how can you probably yeah it is one of those it's what a gun what a gun it was it was beautiful it was gorgeous and it was it was fun to shoot for a bit but man few people have tried to shoot with the sun but they mostly just off enough that the bullet will just miss yeah that is a very one day holy shit if you shot me I guess you would shoot enough bullets but imagine like how far you'd have to lead the sun well they said on deagle day deagle day is going to be everyone shoots once at exactly midnight on deagle day at the sun I think it's a bad idea because you can't quite see it at midnight but everyone's going to be told where it is across the world you know some people will see it I don't know what the guys on the other side of the planet are going to do but they're going to figure it out it'll it'll be like one of the wanted shots where it goes around the earth where it goes into the sun yeah everyone get ready for deagle day it's going to be a fun time I mean one of them is going to hit right Moeller have you ever been to the Talilin railroad I'm a massive steam rail fan and it's one of my goals to visit Wales and see this line that inspired Rev W Audrey no I haven't oh in that case it's probably Talilin but yeah I'm not familiar with this sounds neat not the first time Xander Hull's outright lied like he did with you did a whole long man video on him and Nick of less the Oreo falsely accusing Gary and a few others of racism over a lukewarm spondomantic a lot of the discourse goes to racism these days it really sucks that's the mind of the ideologue like let me just talk about how shitty the writing is look how she helps writing oh danky warhammer fantasy character of the day is quick head taker he's a big rat warrior that likes beheading his opponents alright quick head take oh this guy's from the warhammer game that makes sense yeah I'll give you a picture of him he's a fun boy I'll post a picture of him yeah the scavener cool a bunch of rat boys that's awesome look at all quick he's gonna take your head apparently out like no you can't I need that personally I do need that you know if we're talking halving by the minute it takes minutes to decelerate to walking speed and by then you would have traveled 3,595,326 kilometers or KMS kilometers per second again yeah that's kilometers per second radio no by then you would have traveled if you if you're saying that by then you would have traveled it wouldn't be in kilometers well it's yeah I was a little bit confused about that but it doesn't matter anyway cause you wouldn't until you're at walking speed you can you know stop it at like dogging speed presumably yeah and the like the computer work would be precise enough to where you would know when to stop you know decelerate there'd be a pretty pretty darn robust formula for that I that's why I just bake it into all of the like questions of this nature of like spaceships and stuff that you have a you know a ship that is intelligent enough to make these calculations well like if it was a ship then yeah I wouldn't take much issue with it that's why I thought the point of the question was that it's cool you get to personally travel wherever you want at light speed but you have to suffer the slow down every time and also the awkwardness of even trying to aim it right to the point where I was just like I think that just sounds like it'd be annoying to make work but if it's like a machine then it's probably gonna nail it yeah I'm not going to have to marvel fluid light speed like next to the ship yeah they'll arrive at the same place they'll notice at the same time it's not like one degree difference in the direction you're going is gonna result in hundreds and millions of people it'd just be so funny that they both stop are they like hello why would she fly next to the ship instead of just flying in the ship there's a literal frame don't you understand what does she breathe does she not need to breathe because she's in space cosmic cosmoxygen cosmoxygen digimon of the day is angel woman angel waman right so what's the horrific thing like what alright angel waman looks like an angel woman that's shocking what the fuck what a bizarre okay what a fucking bizarre that's what it evolves from that doesn't make any goddamn sense okay we're gonna okay so I think if I have this correct then that can't be right how come I'm getting give me a second I have an old trading thoughts there it's okay so we have does it say what it evolves I guess it doesn't it sort of evolves but it goes back and forth right prior forms are got home on okay that's so it this is what it's it evolves from essentially yeah yeah I don't fucking know either what um okay and then it evolves into something that is completely different in every fucking way they sort of have white some white and purple I guess except she's just this six-winged angel creature and one of her feet is a feather and she's not really scantily clad but oddly clad how do you go from that to there's no unification in the yeah like generally with evolution is that really minor changes that occur over a great deal of time you can see I mean let's look at the golden the golden trio of Squirtle Charmander and Bulbasaur as they evolve they are clearly a progression right when a Charmander becomes a don't don't tell me Charmander evolves into Charmeleon who becomes Charizard right like you see the stats like oh okay this makes sense and this is just like no this cat with gloves transforms into this this angel woman creature why makes sense to me her glove has wings on it why does her glove have wings on it which so that it helps her fly I guess Digimon's about data not physical evolution what the fuck is the data here okay so that's not an excuse because you why couldn't they evolve digitally the level of visual sense yeah I mean if it's digital that's no excuse like why why would you make them so disconnected and then be like well it's digital as if that's like cuz my my issue was never that it wasn't biologically possible it was it was it was that there is a complete and total lack of an aesthetic consistency feels there is a design failure here of some sort there are holy types of data I don't even know what to make of that I believe you I'll allow it I should go to the three little little things on the sides of her head and the cat kinda has that on his little ears close enough hey long man recent watcher just heard you on Shad's graphic novel announcement I appreciate your helping him out yeah no absolute no no problem at all the good mean correction two one five eight three nine five nine three kilometers per second forgot to count seconds no problem traveling at light wong finally one of the wong memes made it into the super chats have been working hard on that barely been recognized you know rags as someone who plays Yu-Gi-Oh currently I agree it's getting quite ridiculous but I still like it my favorite card is LDL LDLich not exactly sure the golden lord is he a cool dude can you say that one more time L I think it's yeah LDLich LDLich the golden lord I think he's like the lord of gold or something perhaps or he is a lord who is golden that could be it too LDLich the golden lord send this card one spell or trap from your hand to the graveyard then target one card on the field send it to the graveyard if this card is in your graveyard you can send one spell or trap you control to the graveyard add this card to your hand and then you can summon special summon one zombie monster from your hand and if you do until the end of your opponent's turn it gains 1000 attack and defense or defense or at the same time I guess and cannot be destroyed by card effects you can only use each effect of LDLich the golden lord once per turn okay so alright I made a trap or spell card the graveyard put a card of yours into the graveyard if this card is in your graveyard okay so if the card you sent to the graveyard is also a card in your graveyard then you could send one spell or trap I control to the graveyard again add this card to my hand which means the card that you sent to the graveyard on the other side you can add in your hand instead and then you get your zombie monster thing not bad which is at what point do you say you know what we should just do a different card because it's like a four step process it is like you have to double check and in the way that it's worded to you have to stop and make sure that you're reading it correctly because it refers to like this card that card but like early Yu-Gi-Oh early Yu-Gi-Oh was so great it was like real slug matches where you're going at the opponent reducing life points and you're fighting and defending and you have your traps and spells and it felt like a real battle and now it's like these cards feel like you're doing everything you can possible to circumvent actually engaging with your opponent I think if both people understand the card very well maybe it plays pretty fast it's fun I got you or you both agree you know what we're not going to allow I'll glitch the golden lord into this game just play your packs have him in it no one likes zombies anyone else concerned that rags a dog shoots guns you should be concerned about being on my naughty list oh god no I'm like shim and I am the dog I got the dog and I got the little gun on my callback you know oh my goodness consider this evening long man have you heard you're a power metal fan have you sampled sabaton by chance there's a Swedish fan who write about history and war also high rags and fringies for the good froge and doge froge is for the good froge yeah I'm I'm proge and doge I'm getting a little scratch I guess except for the poison well maybe the poison dart ones would like it but nobody is brave enough to man that must be a scary a scary life so if anybody touches you it's poison for them you're poison anyway yes I've listened to a bit of sabaton the song is pretty neat sabaton but uh yeah I haven't I haven't gone through the whole discography yet the chatter said unbearable weight of massive long good oh boy so many names oh all right that's about wraps us up is was there anything you guys wanted to word before we bottle off I really I enjoyed the brief discourse we had on science yes that was neat to get a little kind of delve into that especially after we talked about magic for so long it's nice to get into a good good science you know everyone can learn everything all at once everything every one all at once um she Hulk what a what a show great stuff great time beat saturation Wong Wong yeah plus she's still available grab them while you can one week left get in there before they flim away and and yeah there's just more things happening time goes on see you guys that today for another EFAP you talking about rings of power joyous to hold joy to the world yeah because the next one I'm excited they also when are you watching it I'll I'll join you oh well I'm sure we'll face I'm sure we will but for now thank you all so much high donation the interesting backs and thoughts you have provided the company and for just out with hope you had a good night yeah bye everybody full week yeah good bye bye everybody