 Good morning sir. Yes. How are you? We are from Indore. Yes sir. Very famous place in Bhopal. Yes sir. Not only Bhopal, India also. Yes sir. Sioni. Sioni, how far from your place? Sir, it takes around 10 to 8 to 10 hours to travel by bus. Have you seen Sioni? Sir, I have only once because my mother was born there but after her father's posting, she spent most of her life in Bastar area of Chhattisgarh and then in Indore. Sioni is famous for anything, isn't it? Sir, for the cement industries I have heard mostly and nearby there are tribal regions also. Tribals are there in the forest also? Yes sir. For the forest? Yes sir. Have you seen some forest anywhere? No sir, I am not sure. No? No sir. M.P., do we have forests in M.P.? Yes sir. We have the... We never went to any forest area. Sir, I could never have the opportunity to visit any forest area. We block the space and very difficult to go here and there. It becomes this habitat for criminal activities also. What is the need for having forests? Sir, forests are the natural ecosystems of the earth and if life has to exist on earth, it is not only the humans and the development activities that we are doing but we also need nature. The mother earth who has given life to all these activities and in fact humans. So forests are essential because they are also called as lungs of the earth. So we cut forest and wherever we want we put plant trees, agriculture, that will be enough. Sir, the forests that we have are somewhere around hundreds of years old and the trees which... If the forests are cut and the trees if we would plant them, sir it would take another 100 to 200 years to grow. So by then, sir, all the carbon dioxide that comes on to the earth would not be absorbed back since these act as major carbon sinks. Okay. Last one or two weeks, main headlines in your Madhya Pradesh newspapers. Sir, an unfortunate incident has happened on the occasion of Ram Navni which was because of the communal violence that got flared up during the procession. And sir, apart from this also that Madhya Pradesh has contributed extensively in the wheat production to the central governments. Tell me something about that incident happened and what government did and... Sir, after the communal violence which took place, the alleged writers who were there, they were arrested under the due process of law and probe has been initiated into the same. Sir, the government has also raised the houses and the properties, the illegal encroachment which were done. Illegal encroachments raised legally or illegally. I am not sure if the notice period was served to them, but if notice period was served and then the bulldozers were raised then it was probably legal. So, who decides whether this is legal and this construction is legal or illegal? Who decides that? Sir, if a property or a construction belongs to me then I should possess the relevant land records and documents and if I am able to furnish that it is probably legal. So, it is the district authorities and the district people who are in charge of seeing the land records. I think two days back Hanuman Jainthi was there. Yes, sir. What has been done in Hanuman Jainthi? Something, some inaugurations were done. Sir, I am sorry, regarding the inaugurations I am not aware. See, we have a lot of international conventions treaties where the countries become parties. So, the treaties there, it means like India has become party to many treaties and conventions. So, it means once we become party, we sign, it comes into force. We are bound to implement it in our country or anything else is required. Sir, we need a parliament ratification also if we want to implement those international treaties that we have signed. Okay, parliament ratification is okay. After that we can do that. Sir, after that also, sir, states concurrences also needed in a particular state. Okay, that is also good. Then? Sir, then probably we can. So, there is no need of any corresponding domestic law? Sir, if a law already is in place, then it is okay. Otherwise, sir, we will need to make a law. Yes, sir. Without law we cannot implement? Yes, sir. We will need to make a law. Okay. Punjab, you know you are tracking the developments in Punjab? Yes, sir. What is the recent one? Sir, the newly elected government has announced for the free electricity to the people of Punjab. From when? Since from which day? Sir, from July 1, they have announced. Something else also? Some jobs and all? Sir, I read about the electricity part. Okay. WTO is telling that reporting of deaths due to COVID in India has not been done on SP. Sir, I have read some news articles that in which it has been said that probably the number of deaths have been underestimated in India. Sir, I think it is primarily because number one when COVID struck, we were not at all prepared and the deaths that occurred, we could not clearly identify or demarcate whether it was due to COVID or some other comorbidities. And sir, secondly, during the second wave also which was very lethal, it was difficult to actually pin point. However, sir, there have been lapses also where we could not actually report. The actual reporting was not done. Okay. Thank you. So Anjali. Yes, sir. You have kept not the zone at the first preference. Yes, sir. Why? You do not want to work in a challenging area? Sir, I would be very happy to serve in any zone and any cadre I am allotted to. Since there was a preference that I had to choose, so I went ahead with that. Okay. Okay, no problem. You are a computer science graduate. Yes. Right? Web 3 is a term which is there in news. Have you heard of it? I am sorry, sir. I will have to look into it. Okay, all right. What is the NFT? Sir, NFT is a non-fungible token and it is based on a blockchain technology. So under this basically what happens is that if I want to say, let us say there is a piece of art, so there will be a digital art or a digital copy of my original piece and anybody who wants to purchase it can do so and they will be having that digital copy and the original copy would be with me. So in this way it would be secure and duplication cannot be done. Okay, all right. Does India have any cybersecurity policy? Yes, sir. We have a national cybersecurity policy of 2013 and it was released by the Ministry of Electronics and IT under which there are cyber police cells and also cyber professional. We are talking of training of around 5 lakh cyber professionals in the country and imparting cyber literacy. Okay. Now there has been an increasing incidence of cyber crimes. Yes. Do you think the police personnel are well equipped to fight such crimes? Sir, considering that cyber crimes are the new age crimes, I believe we have the potential but still the training part of the police professionals is still lacking because of which the tracing of the crime and the people involved in it has become difficult. So that is one area. And so secondly, the crimes are also now being done through dark web and dark net and these are those areas where we need extensive research and development also. So that is also somewhere missing in the country since we only spend around 0.7% of our GDP into research. So in that also, sir, we need to work. What do you think we should have separate computer science posts now in police at least in every district one or two? Do you think it will be a good idea? Sir, I think it can be thought of. We can have certain posts, technicals, specially posts for computer science graduates and it might help the police in investigation further. Okay, all right. Tell me something about bone paintings. Sir, bones are the tribals who reside in Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh and Andhra Pradesh regions and these are the tribal paintings done by these people in which they make various motives and since tribal people are very, very connected to the nature so the motives also in these paintings are related to the nature itself like the Mahuva trees and the flora and the fauna of the region and through these paintings, they try to depict the interdependence and interrelationship of the people and the nature. Any other similar tribal painting styles from Madhya Pradesh? Sir, in Madhya Pradesh there is Pithora paintings also which are done by the Pithora tribes Okay, you also follow tennis. Yes, sir. There was a huge controversy of Djokovic with regard to Australian Open. Yes, sir. So who do you think was correct, Djokovic or the Australian Government? Sir, if I have to look at, Australian Government was correct in the sense that since it's a government, it is their duty to make the people and the citizens aware regarding vaccination so they debar him from playing. So it set a precedent that vaccination is important. While from an individual's perspective, I think personally he made a personal choice that he didn't want it to get vaccinated and since he was following all the COVID protocols and he was not involved with other people so I think both were right in their respective domains. But finally you have to give your opinion and final judgment. What would it be? Sir, I would say that considering the larger good of the people the decision of Australian Government was right that vaccination has to be done. Okay, alright. But he also lied about his positive certificate and all? I am sorry sir, I couldn't please that part. Okay. Now many of the state governments, I think Madhya Pradesh, Anuta Pradesh are using Bunda Act or some sort of similar act to raise the houses of the alleged writers. Yes. Do you think it is right? Sir, from what I see there are two issues which are involved here. One are the writers and one is the raising of their properties. Sir, if we consider about the writers and people who cause violence and damage to the public property strict action needs to be taken against them according to the rule of law. And sir, if the properties are raised then that should be done if there is any illegal construction which is being done or an illegal encroachment that has been done by serving a proper notice and giving the concerned people also a chance to appear before. However sir, both these things are happening simultaneously so it is getting somewhere connected that there are some vested interest. But if we follow the right procedure, I think sir, this issue can be tackled. Okay. There is high attrition in the IT industry. Can you tell me why? Sir, if I may clarify, attrition is the increasing. No. People leaving the jobs and switching the jobs. Sir, in the software industry I think it is a very dynamic sector. So, it is growing every day. Technology as we know it is changing every hour and every second. So, people are also getting skilled and they are finding more relevant and more better jobs than the previous ones. So, we are seeing a switch over. While there are some people who are also leaving these jobs probably because of the brain drain that is happening from our country to the other countries because of better opportunities and jobs. Okay, last question. What are your strengths and weaknesses? Sir, I will start with my strengths first. I think I am a very calm and a composed person and I am also very patient in listening to others' viewpoints especially the adverse ones. And so thirdly, I think I am very much driven by my perseverance and my grit. I have a never give up attitude towards the challenges. And sir, regarding the weakness I would say that since I come from Indore so I am a foodie because of which I tend to gain weight and then I have to lose it. And so secondly, I also tend to work for long hours that leads to exhaustion sometimes. Thank you. Anjali, when we talk about Indore, the first thing that comes to my mind is cleanliness. What are the other things that Indore is famous for? Sir, apart from cleanliness, Indore has been historically the presidency of the Holkars. Devi Ahilya Bhai Holkarji is said to have associated with Indore and she has immensely contributed in the field of temples, art and architecture. Also the temple town of Maheshwar is very famous for Maheshwari and Chanderi sardis in Indore. Sir, speaking about the food, it is the street food capital of the country and there are lots of varieties of food like Jalebi and Poha and Jalebi is the staple diet. And sir, it is also emerging as the financial capital and the software hub of the MP also. So, these three. In a unicorns based out of Indore? Sir, I am not aware of if they are having me. You are constantly reading about chip shortage. Yes sir. How is this affecting the computer industry? Sir, the chips are the most important part of any electronic device and for their proper functioning it is very, very important to we have chips and because of the COVID supply chain disruptions the chip shortages have been felt. Sir, with respect to the computer industry I think one is that the IT industry during the time of COVID there were certain layoffs which were done. Sir, this I can only think of these. You are familiar with the news of Infosys existing Russian market. Sir, I read about it. Yes. Can you tell me what do you know about Infosys exiting Russian market? Infosys are particularly in the Russian market. Russian market. This is in the context in news in the context of UK also. Yes sir. Sir, I am aware that the son-in-law of Mr. Narayan Murthy owns the Infosys is their current finance minister, Rishi Sunak. And sir, I have read about that they have exited but the exact reasons I am not really sure of. Okay. India is a global powerhouse in terms of software. But despite of having such a large human resource we have not been able to do well in the manufacturing of technological devices. What do you think is missing out here? Sir, I think that our manufacturing has been lacking because once our research and development that we need is low, we do have the manpower. But the skills which are needed, sir, that is lacking. There is only 5% of the population in India which is skilled as compared to 70 to 80% in the developed world. And so secondly, manufacturing sector in India is something which has to pick up. It is only like around 16% of our GDP and we have been targeting 25% but still we are short of that mark. So we have to focus on that. And so we are rightly doing also like the PLI scheme that we have come up with is also targeting the manufacturing sector. You won a national level in the school essay writing competition. Yes. What is the topic on? Sir, it was on the women empowerment. It was in Hindi. Mahila se Shakti Karan. What are the three major impediments towards women's empowerment in the country? Sir, first I would say is the mindset of the people. That is the patriarchal in the society that women or a girl child is inferior to the men. So second impediment I would say is their education. Without a proper education, we cannot expect the empowerment of women because she would not be then financially independent. And sir, the third impediment I would say is the crimes and the violence against the women. Especially during the pandemic, we saw that it was a shadow pandemic where a lot of violence was against the women. So safety and security is also one issue. In gold painting, what type of colours do you use and what is the material used for these colours traditionally? Sir, traditionally it was the natural colours like for brown they used the soil and for black colour charcoal was used. For green the leaves were used. But since these have also evolved over time, so now there are poster colours, acrylic and all types of colours like oil colours, water colours. Any medium of colour is now being used by the painters. How is the gold painting being promoted? What steps are being taken to promote gold painting? Sir, firstly these are popularised through the museum. There is a museum also in Bhopal in which these gold paintings are published and they are showcased. And so secondly the tri-fed which is under the Ministry of Tribal Affairs that has been very active in imparting the skills and providing the painters with the proper equipments to do these paintings and connecting them to the e-commerce sites like Amazon. And sir, thirdly they have actually got a lot of international recognition because these paintings were also showcased in the COP25 which was held in Madrid. So, government is very active. Sir, in fact in Delhi also in Lothi colony these paintings have been painted on the walls of the streets. You are just telling impediment in empowerment of women, mindset of the people. When you say mindset of the people include only males or females also? Sir, I would say the females also. Can you give me an example? Sir, for example, if a violence is committed against a women, she accepts it because she thinks that it is normal and one or two slaps or any kind of physical abuse is okay because she is a women. So, somewhere that internalisation of patriarchy also has been one reason why women empowerment is lacking. Not only that, sometimes you know mother, grandmother also, they want only boy. They don't want a girl child. Why she should be studied? She has to be ultimately get married and go from this. So, that mindset is also there.