 there everybody. How we doing this evening? Welcome in to this very special live stream tonight. Thank you everybody for joining us. We got a lot of activity early here in the chat. Nice to see everybody here. And of course, we're going to switch over now. And I've joined by my friend here tonight, Smoke Monster. And great man. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for coming on. So yeah, this is like a big deal for me. It's a red letter day in my life being on your stream. Well, I'm glad I was uh, we could talk about things a little bit more kind of because you and I actually were lucky enough, I think to have had an opportunity even briefly to meet in person a couple years back. Yeah, that was awesome. So I thought we could talk a minute about that. And then just like, you know, um, we never had like any chances to while you're still doing things to get together. And then it's like I was, I was always kind of disappointed when you, when you took a step back, of course selfishly because I wanted to work in some things. Like right when you started getting big into streaming, I had been stepping away for a while. Well, so, yeah, cheers. So cheers to everybody out there. Thanks for coming on tonight. I will tell you, I have maybe one of the freshest beers here that I've ever had. I was blown away. So my friend, uh, she works for, um, this brewing company called Southern Grist in Nashville, Tennessee. And she came to visit me and my wife and she brought a bunch of their special beers. And this one is a Key Lime Pie Sour Ale. That sounds good. Yeah. But it has canned date on it. And it was canned on 525-23. Oh my God. Yeah. That's like six days ago. Brand. Yeah. That's awesome. So yeah, I don't think I've ever had beer that fresh. So what are you sitting on? I'm drinking a Pilsner Erquil. This has got to be months old. It's over from Czechoslovakia. Yeah. Czech Republic. It's a good, it's kind of like not the greatest beer on earth, but I like it, you know, like it's a light beer to have around. That's a good one. That's fine. Yeah. Um, so we're just kind of kind of like hang out and talk obviously about CRTs. I've got these two cool eight inch things here. There's really a lot of things we can talk about because so many just like random posts, we've been talking to each other, working on randomly the same thing somehow. You know, yeah, you're like the PhD level of my amateur interests. It seems like we're on the same path sometimes. Yeah. Well, I'm definitely still always. I still think that's a very much a thing for me is to always try to still be learning. And I'm surprised by these machines, because it doesn't really matter how much you know. I feel like you could always know more about it almost complex. Yeah. Right. And there's physics involved in God knows what else. Right. So one's spirits. Well, that's that's an interesting thing you say that because I had I've done so much stuff on the history of like studying the history of the CRT and it. I mean, it was all it was used to actually the early forms of it were used to study and discover the electron. The physics like the actual electron. The first that's where they happened across this. Yeah, it was in a vacuum tube and they were passing beams of electricity through the vacuum tube. And it's like in the 1850s was when the first kind of vacuum tube was born. And right here. Decatron spinners that I was called Decatrons. I don't know if you can see that though. Probably can't. Oh, no, it's off screen. Oh, no, I can't I've been I don't think so. But I'm making the vacuum tube stuff. But I got some Decatrons, which are old counting tubes from like computers. And I kind of turned them into like second counters for my Dixie tube clock. Yeah, yeah. Pendulums. Yeah, I've seen that. That looks that's a cool look. So yeah, I mean, what what do you feel like starting off with? I mean, let's we could kind of go through like a little bit of a history tour for people, I guess we kind of mentioned that if that's all right. Yeah. We I'll tell it kind of from my perspective. But goodness, it was it was like right before, of course, 2019, it was like the end of 2019, right? When we all went pre COVID, it was right before COVID. It was like, I want to say October ish. And it was this first kind of behind the scenes meets together of people that were in kind of retro gaming scene. Most of it was organized by Bob from Retro RGB. And I was just like, first off, I was like so surprised that I even got invited, because I didn't have much of a following at that time. Well, it was like elites mostly, right? Yeah, a few random people like me were there. No, that's but that's what I was said. So I was I was there the one day hanging out. And it got started to get to be late. And I was like, man, I never had a chance to go over and talk to you. And I and I looked over and you were having a conversation with art. And I was like, I'm just going over and button in and saying, Hey, finally, before this whole thing ends, because I was like, I didn't have a chance. Because back then I kind of guy, you have to track down and talk to them a little introverted in groups. Yeah, well, yeah, we got to chat. I've owned into a few times. We talked about at that time, you were doing like CRT repair for hire mostly. And it was like, you had done some YouTube videos, I think. But you were like, a YouTuber for YouTubers back then. Yeah, the original like an audience, the original like, yeah, tutorial. I can remember making my first videos. And it was just like a bad cell phone. And it's me yelling at it. And it tried to edit all my early ones down there too bad. I had a $20 Logitech like eight years ago. Yeah. I had I had some other friends are like, why don't you take some of those early videos down that have bigger YouTube channels? They're like, you should clean up your channel a little bit. I'm like, you're probably right. But I don't know. I kind of like to go back and just laugh at myself sometimes. Oh, yeah. But priceless. Yeah. So we got we got into talking there. I remember that time. And this is again, late 2019. You were like the first person that most anybody knew that was really involved in following and you know, using the mister early on. And yeah, I kind of caught Mr. Early. Yeah, like way to the rest of the world. It that was yeah, it took like a year before after I had sort of found it that it sort of started passing around. I mean, it was clearly a big deal, regardless of anything I did. But I was one of the early people making videos on it. I've got my Mr. Running right now here actually. Oh, look at that super attract mode. With the eight inch PVMs that we need to talk about. So do you have three of them? What's the I have three. Okay. For each got them a long, long time ago. And this one on the bottom is the one that I just recapped the power supply. And I'm a little horrified. I kind of want to do the other two. Yeah, you said you had the same thing happen to you. It was like, this one ran perfectly. This was my main PVM on the desk here. Then I put it in rotated mode. And within a few days, it was acting weird. And then after a week or two, it wasn't even turning on. Wow, power supply caps. It's like, I don't know, it like jolted them out of their happiness. And they were three of those were really blown. I was going to say, were they actually like, they I think I saw pictures fine superficially, it wasn't until you take them off. And it's like, they had, you know, drained out through the bottom. Okay. So you probably couldn't tell by I don't think I couldn't tell by looking at them. I mean, it looked pristine actually, like clean and fine. Yeah, you take them off that you see that little their guts spilled. That's a good one to say gut spilled. Yeah. I don't know. I'm sure some of you guys I know that like James Boone in the trend and the chat he was, of course, at the stream I did yesterday during the middle of the day, where I the one that I actually have in rotation, Tate mode is the one that it didn't start at all for me. And I have, like I have so somebody came and donated, I think, like six totes of just parts from these small monitors. And so I have like so many parts. So I found, you know, a good power supply, which is the same block here. And I was on stream was like, well, let's swap the power supply out. Just to see if it's going to be that easy, right? If it's just the power supply, if it's something else. So I swapped it out. And of course, it fired right up. And I took the old power supply apart. Because I was like, well, we need to see why it's obviously that old power supply. That's the problem. And I opened it up and it is the exact same three capacitors that you had changed. And mine were the wild thing about mine was that, like one of them was obviously failed, like you could see it's exploded out the bottom and run onto the board. And it read bad. I have an ESR meter. You can read caps in circuit. Nice. Yeah. And so it read bad. But the other two caps actually read still good. But I pulled all three of them and they had all actually leaked. But even out of circuit, the two were still reading good. They're nice caps. I mean, yeah, with work even after they're dead, they're like zombies. Self feeling surprising. Like, well, I guess they have like thousands of hours on them, I guess. But you know, in a normal like if we had these at home, you'd think they would last until Armageddon because generally the caps in there just Japanese most of them are 105 C. Good stuff. I can't remember. I think the power supply had they weren't like Nisha cons or anything where they they were like, they were well, there was a there was a Rubicon was one of them I remember on mine. Actually, I probably still got the nasty caps here, right here. Because like right after so I did I did that and let's see this was definitely one of them. Yeah, this one's just Oh, it's Elna, which Elna should be good. There's a theory. Yeah. Rubicon Elna. Yeah, so they put in this one. Yeah, this is an Elna also 105 like 50 million hours on them. And it's so calm in there. Yeah, and they smell just probably builds up my mind smells so bad when I removed it with the heat. Oh my goodness. And claimed it so like you said, I did that one that one kit on that which is getting pretty simple. And then it fires back up but then I went ahead and did a couple of other repairs which I had sent you a list of capacitors. Mm hmm. I did those two you did those two. Okay, good. Yeah. Yeah, I did those and then I did like every big cap that I was I didn't want to do the whole thing because I was being lazy. Yeah, like all the higher voltage caps, the ones that were easy to get to I did all of those. I might have recapped like 20 of them. Okay. And then I did those value upgrades and the picture on it is noticeably better. It's just brighter. So it was probably just dim before or something. But I can see it now like compared to the other one. It's that's above it. It's just like, they're both the exact same settings there. But that one's awesome. Yeah, I was gonna say that kit and then there's just one other thing that you can do on the color board because sometimes the color will go out and composite in NTSC. And so there's I'd never even know if that happened because you don't use it in RG anything but RGB I'm sure right. Most well for these. Yeah. I mean, I could plug in other things. I use these actually like monitors, you know, like, they were designed like, just for seeing what's on Mr basically and anything else that I like I had the Jag hooked up here for a while and the 3DO. There's kind of perfect for that. I guess I did have the 3DO earning S video. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I've got an RGB modded 3DO. I've got an RGB modded 3DO. I've got but I don't know. I was laughing. I was thinking maybe I'd put that on one of these but then I was thinking that would be so small FMB. I couldn't really do good thing with the audio on it. So but that that yeah, so on on the color board, which is the opposite side of that deflection board, there's a couple of spots on there that where Sony just use some less inferior potentiometers, two of them, and they sent out a service bulletin saying to change them and then put some small capacitors in there behind them. So it's it's an easy fix. If you ever have a problem, if you don't, if you don't get a handful of those. Yeah, it's it's just I just do it to make sure that I get them all working kind of as close as possible. But yeah, that's an easy one. So you might as well. Yeah, you're in there already. Uh huh. But that and then of course, the awesome stand, right that that you first showed, you're the first to show off, which are the one to write I've got using that cool stand, it does extend higher. But I like this stand. I guess you can't see it on the screen. I've got one on those now. I had a revelation though. inspired by like stacking TVs on TVs and like the 80s and 90s as we did have a broken TV with a good TV on top. I realized that these are perfect cubes. That's why they're called cubes, I guess it never really occurred to me. But you can use one eight inch PVM as a stand for another eight inch PVM how perfect is that and you can even if you rotate it, it's still square. Oh, yeah, that cleaned up a little bit of desk space for me so that I could because I'm working on a Windows 98 computer and I got this 21 inch monitor over to the side here. But there was no way it was going to fit without. I mean, I spent like a whole day just broke down my whole desk and I figured out a way to squeeze it in here. So let's let's take a second. What is the what's what's the new CRT that you got the the computer monitor? Okay, so I've got well, I did a video on this one that I got a few years ago, right brand new. Yeah, I remember that or something like that really cheap. And it's nothing fancy, but it just looks so good because it's brand new just for Dreamcast, especially where it's like the perfect resolution for you know, and I had taken a trip to see Bob in New York and I went to the I fix retro arcade where Jose Cruz Jose, sorry, I would say the Brazilian I had a diamond Tron with the Thomas wave or not Thomas wave Naomi to on it. And it just looked like mind blowingly good. And so I've always wanted to have a VGA Dreamcast setup. Yeah, so that's what that one became. It's like a 17 inch. So not huge. But it looks ungodly good to me. I've never seen a BVM on mind you. So I don't know you haven't. No, not in person. I have a BVM but it was 240p. And I remember the one that smoked fire. Yeah. Last, last time I plugged it in it literally cut on fire. I don't I haven't got to that yet. I don't have space. Yeah, there's no point. But one day I'll fix it. I'm sure of it. Or you'll help me fix it. Yeah, that's truth. Yeah. So the and then the other day a few weeks ago, I got this insanely nice 21 inch Samsung sync master 1100p plus. Okay, with BNC inputs for VGA, which I do use. And that kind of gives you a second input on it. For nothing. I mean, nothing. Just the guy just basically gave it to me and thanked me for taking it. Now that was that guy originally sorry, go ahead that would spawn the windows. I didn't want to talk to him too long because he asked me like, he's like, So what do you plan to do with it? I'm like, Oh, God, let's not get into that. Yeah, I just want to get out of here. Right, you want to make sure you get it get out of there? Yeah. So I know that. Yeah, like you would you have no idea, man. I'm gonna do with this. But that's what spawn my whole Windows 98 thing that's going on. Oh, very cool. Very fun. This is for Yeah, I gotta tell you, I went I went and it was pretty much it was kind of near when after after we went and met in 2019, I went and met with try and Matt, Lisa, who is the owner of insurrection industries, they're both in North Carolina. So we all got together one night, and we're hanging out. And that was like the the last time before everything went crazy. Literally, that was like December, I remember because right before we left, we were talking about this COVID thing happening somewhere. We didn't know. But anyway, we, I went over and and try showed me his setup. And he had this amazing NEC computer CRT, you know, like super high end. I can't remember the exact model. But one of the really good ones. And that's all he had was a dream cast on it. And I watched that and I was like, Oh, my goodness. And ever since then, that's what I kind of did. I was looking for one just specifically almost for that. For the longest time. It's like everybody who loves dreamcasts really we should go out and grab one because they're really they're actually easy to find people think. Yeah. Oh man, PC monitors. If you go and offer up, you know, if people know it, they're selling like on eBay, they're expensive. You go and offer up. I did like this wasn't my only choice. This nice one. It was like the one of 10 and within like 30 miles of here that were perfectly good, you know, there were some other really nice ones too. This one was just like perfect conditions. So I knew it wasn't probably used very much. And the guy took my low ball. Yeah. Yeah, I think I wound up with a Sony and I but I found it and I had to drive like three hours to get it because it was the four by three monitor. That's the version of the FW 900 only in four by three. Oh, nice. And I was like, I know if I wouldn't see it again for it was again like one of those things the guy wanted I think a hundred bucks. And I didn't even argue with him because you could check the one that I got you could check the argue you want to just be like, can I have it go? I'll take it. I'll be there today. But that's exactly everything. Yeah. So like all my PVMs were they were all a big drive. Some of them like my 2030 I was in Madison, Wisconsin, I drove to Chicago to get that guy had it listed on eBay. Yeah, like they were all like you got to jump in your car and go and get it because it's a deal. Yeah, those are always the better ones. Somebody else is like calls the guy and tells him they'll give him like 500 for it or something. Yeah. That's that's very true. So you've so you got that the Samsung now and you're running a so so have you put together like a actual Windows machine? Yeah, what I'm doing right now. So right now I have yeah, I'm building like a Windows 98 super computer like the computer of your dreams that didn't really exist in 98. That's what I'm building. You know, so it's got like a voodoo for DVI that was a gift from a friend. Pentium three slot one 850 megahertz is what I'm going with because it needs that one needs to have 100 megahertz front side bus. So that's a good one for it. Killer Intel Intel motherboards, like I just I finally understand why people are like Intel fans. Because I've had I've seen a lot of computer motherboards in my time but like they put huge Nishicon 105 C rated caps all over the board. None of that green Samsung crap leaking everywhere. Really, really nice. So actually, I can give I can give a hint to the people who showed up here because I've been keeping this under the cover. Because I know that the second that I mentioned this publicly, they'll all disappear. But Dell dimension X Dell dimension XPS from the 90s. If you look at them and they have an ISA slot, it means and they have a Pentium three. It means they have the Intel 440 BX chipset. Okay, and it's an actual Intel motherboard. It's like a turnkey kick ass high end from the year 2000. You know, if you get a later one, Pentium three slot one machine slot one was very expensive back then. So that's my advice to people and a cool thing is I got a T 700 R, which means it's a 700 megahertz slot three is what was in it. But all of them are configured the same. So if you got a T 450, it's the exact same high end computer just with a 450 megahertz Pentium slot one. So if you got that, I mean, I paid 50 bucks for mine. And then it's like $30 shipping. And you couldn't get a case for that much nowadays, right? No, no, and that motherboard is probably 100 200 bucks. And then you've got a slot one to start out with and you can put any slot so you can get a $50 slot bad ass slot one and just pop it on there to the like T 450 and then you've got a hot rod. Right. So they're really cool. And the ISA slot is what signifies to you that it's the 440 B. Okay, doesn't have that because there were more kick ass ones later. But they wouldn't be really great for Windows 98. They had different chip sets on them. Okay, anyway, so yeah, I'm building a kick ass Windows 98 computer of my dreams, because that's like my era for games for computers. And then I also have libredo that Tim GC eight tech sent me a few years ago for DOS. So I have everything covered and that saved me from having to make a machine that's both DOS and Windows 98, which was my original plan. It's very complex to get everything perfect if you owe that route. So I've got a libredo which just plugs straight into the sync master and I was playing SimCity and once I got at home and like 30 seconds. So like, it's just like trunkey. Well, that's so crazy. Because if you most of the time, if you think of Dell kind of after that, they started you think of low end. Well, not just slow and it's just proprietary crap that you can never you'll have trouble getting anything to work with. That's not a Dell piece. And speaking of that one more piece of advice that people do go the XPS route. It has a weird proprietary power supply in it. But you can go on Amazon and for eight bucks, there's this thing called the P10 ox Dell adapter. Doesn't mention power supply or anything just P10 ox. That will convert any ATX power supply to plug into this board. Oh, wow. So that was what finally got me to pull the trigger on this because that was a hold up for me. I was like, I'm not getting something with a power supply that I can't immediately swap out, you know, right, because you'd be stuck with just that otherwise. Yeah, that's a cool thing. But yeah, I always look down on like Dell gateway machines, like I never thought anything of them. But they did make this high the dimension XPS line was like a high end thing. You could even get it you could order like, you could get it with an onboard. Like this just shows like that it's kind of an elite setup, you could get it with onboard Yamaha sound as an option, like OPL three built in mine doesn't have that. But doesn't really matter. I have a Sun Blaster 32 and an Orpheus. Like geared towards a higher end of people. So you could get it with a voodoo card, you know, if you added that option, and it came with a really nice sound card and a decent video card to a really good video video card for the time that would have played anything. Okay. So yeah, sorry too much information. No, no, no, that's good. That's what everybody likes to hear is what what's going on. I thought that was cool. I didn't see I had I had a weird one that was nostalgic to me for probably all the wrong reasons because it was just a complete colossal pain in the butt. So I had I never forget I went in and I got so this is a little bit more of a story, I guess. So I when I was in college, I had gotten a graduation gift, which was just a go to the Dell shop and buy a computer, right? Get one made that's under a certain number for price. And that'll be your PC for school. And I had it the first year. And then the second year, I went and I moved all my stuff out of the dorm into my parents house. And then I went back and did my finals week. Well, when I went back, like that night, my house, I mean, nobody was hurt thankfully, but my house burnt down like at home. So the computer everything was gone. So so then I had that's bad timing. Yeah, well, I mean, it was, yeah, it was just crazy right after. So I had literally all my stuff back from school. So then they were like, I was like, I am not getting another Dell. I had that Dell for a year. And I hated it. It was a Pentium four, of course, you know, it was like, this is 2001 ish 2000. And and so I went the next time to the gateway store. And I got another one there. And it was, I mean, it is just it's sitting here. It's a nice tower. That's just a nostalgic piece for me. I want to actually get Windows set up on it to try to do the whole calibration of those PC monitors that you have to use this special software for. But it has to be done basically on an XP machine, which that one is. So but anyway, a couple years ago, I was fully restored it because it had bad caps in it. Like that were blown. I had left it in storage and a mouse family had moved into it. That's not what you want to see. Well, that's cool that you have it though. I don't because like, I never had nice PCs, but I would love to just have one leftover because I don't even like everybody's always like, Oh, my first computer was a Pentium, you know, whatever. And then I got a Pentium 2, I like I have no idea what we had. Like I know that one of them was a Packard Bell. And that's it. I have no idea what the specs were. Yeah, I know that like, one of them ran Windows 95. And I must have had Windows 90. I like, I just don't remember like the technical details like that. I wish I had those. Yeah, it was it was something that you really didn't know much. It was almost almost mysterious. About what what it was, I would, you know, I would remember playing. Gosh, I just remember somebody like gave us a computer and it was an all in one, you know, PC I don't remember. I want to say it was an IBM, then and and it was of course only just a three and a half inch floppy drive in the wall and one. And I would play I think it was like one of the King's Quest games, just that was like all I could basically do on it. It's like early DOS. Yeah. And I really had no idea what was going on. Yeah, we're like, Mike, the computers I always got at home was like my dad had a veterinary office. And he liked to buy a new computer every couple years. So his when he got a new computer, the old one came home. So it was always a few years behind, but it was still always like, decent enough to do some things with you know. So my first one was like DOS and Windows 3.1 kind of games. Okay, went from there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I built my first computer until the 2000s. I mean, I was on like the computer squad in high school, like me and three other like geeks, where we'd go fix computers, you know, that involved building them from parts sometimes. But like, I never really did my own until probably 2001, I think was the first one. Okay. So I missed this whole era of like building a Windows 98 PC from scratch, just hard actually. It's hard. It's just like there's so many little quirks and features. They got they've still, I mean, I was laughing about something I had tried to add an item to a PC. And it was even a modern PC. And now I'm laughing. I'm like, they make modern PCs with all these, they look like all these functional inputs on the motherboard. And it's like, Oh, wait, no, that's actually shared with like two. Yeah. And it's that same thing. I was so pissed off. When I built my most recent PC because my last one, all the slots worked on it. And I had all this shit plugged into it, you know, like seven or eight cards. Yeah, sound card, USB slots, a USB C slot, all this stuff. And then I got this new computer and I ran into the exact same thing. I had put two M2 drives in it. That's like two of your slots right there. And so now you're down from like four to two or something. Like I just didn't think about that. So I don't have I only have room for like the data path and a USB C card. And I think that's all I have in this. Besides the graph the video card. Wow. Yeah. It's a K-Cast computer. But like, we need these slots, you know, like I'm I'm kind of yeah, I'm kind of frustrated that they just put it out there like it's almost it's so something that just shows. Yeah, because there's really no point of having all the extra hardware built there if it doesn't kind of do both. Because you could always get around not having it there if it can't do it. I mean, like you say when you well, this was so I was trying to add this into a machine that I again, so the reason I have to NVMe car or you know, hard drives in the one main machine that I'm using is when I do video editing, I think like somebody told me if you put those if you're swapping that information between the two as you know, NVMe's that's way faster for rendering video. And then I go and do things in back storage and slower, you know, hard drives. And I sort of do that till I use the second one. I used to use it as a cash drive like for premiere. Okay. I don't even really need it anymore. Yeah, right. It's there if I need it. So that's what I was like, I don't want to do deal with that for a couple of you extra USB, an extra four USB slots that don't really matter. Anyway, hub that Bob. Yeah, one that actually works. I hope so. I don't mind like full speed. Oh, no, no, they're all I bought a couple and I swear they worked perfectly for like three weeks. And then after that, it's like wait, what? Nothing's working. But yeah, that's that's, you know, modern technology really. It's nothing like these old things. No. Yeah. All right. So yeah, I really just have these things set up over here. I don't know that I was going to play on them much of anything. But I do have an additional one. It's so funny we talked about getting so many of these. I'm interested. So how long have you had? You said you pictures for up for about 40 bucks. So how long have you had those? See if I can figure out what year that was? Because I usually keep my receipts in a nice in the folder with things. Let's see what year that was. See, I can remember 17. Okay, six years ago. 2017. Wow. Yeah. That was that was when I bought them, people were like poo pooing it. And I was like, eight inch, it's not big. But for having one on your desk, that's a good thing. Because you know, two 20 inch pvms on your desk, I've been there. And that's your whole desk. There's no room for extra monitors. No, they're thick. I mean, you need, you know, they have so much back to them. You can't it's just like the CRT is all the way here in your face. But yeah, that you're you're really seeing things in the future, because I will not forget it when I went and bought I used to go get about that same time 2017, I would go to a recycler in the Tennessee Nashville area and they would sell me pallets of pvms just for scrap prices pretty much. And I would always tell them I didn't want to have anything to do with it. They'd have pallets of eight inches and five inches. And I was like, man, I don't even know what I would do with those things. You know, just give me the big ones. Yeah, back then it was like 14 was the smallest. Yeah, I really wanted to deal with. And then people like got, I don't know, the they stayed home and started getting on the internet and they went crazy for like the five inch ones for a while to just show on like social media posts, basically. I've never even seen a five inch person. They are so small. But five seems very small. So I finally get Vita. Yeah, it's and it's four by three. So yeah, it's like just, you know, I actually Hey, my life in gaming is actually here. He was the one Hey, Corey was the one who gave me the one that I was fixing that's in Tate mode right now. But yeah, I can't even remember what I was talking about then just a second ago now. The shift to people finally appreciating the eight inch. That's it. So the eight inch. Yeah, well, the no, I actually got a five inch this week on eBay. I bought one for $200 like 200 bucks shipped. And the only reason I did that was because I have again, the box filled with parts. I even have an extra tube already for it in case the tubes bad. Have you ever swapped the tube? I saw that you can swap in like a skilloscope tube into these eight inches and kind of upgrade it to like a 700 TV line or something. Oh, no, I haven't I have never heard that. Really? There's one that swaps straight in. I had asked a parts seller to for a quote for one of those and they said like $500 used for a tube. Yeah, I was like, no, I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, if you look up, there's some tube that swaps straight into these from like that's used in per I don't know, a skilloscope to some other PVM. But really, I mean, do I want more TV lines? That's the question because I like I really like the way these look, it's almost like a dot matrix effect, because that like has clear like vertical almost looking scan lines in addition to the horizontal. Right, they do the small ones. And they do look really good. They are pretty small, I would say, but you don't sit that far away when you play one of these things. And it's 12 inches from my face right now. It's a great size. It's good for streaming and stuff. I think it's cool if you like you say if you want to have especially multiple monitors, you really can't go wrong. No, with these little ones, especially test. Yeah, that's, that's, that's I think the key now this this is still one thankfully that you can find even on I know it's like, maybe a little bit sad as but you can still go on and find these sometimes barely tested for like 200 bucks, right? Like that on eBay, if you're just like really wanting to get something like that. But last that's like, yeah, Hannibal, everything else on there. But I've seen some of the really good condition a insurance go for ridiculous prices to just crazy stuff. But but I remember people didn't have any. I didn't see any real in hindsight, I was wrong. I was sad. I still think about that. Like, man, I let like two pallets of eight inch and nine inches just go and five inches just go away. Kind of regret not getting cuz like, I cheaped out and I got the cheap one, you know, you could get like the higher end version of this one. For I would have spent, you know, I don't know twice as much maybe let's say. But even then it was still a good deal. And now those are like the ones people want. I don't I forget what model number that is. But mine is the 8041 Q. Is that the 8042 Q? Yeah, so no, the four, so the 41 and the 42 Q are almost the same. But the the 44 Q and the 45 Q have the nicer tubes. That's actually these two are four force. So they have a 450 line tube, which the normal tube and the other one is 250 lines. So it is a kick up in resolution. This one that's sitting next to me, which we haven't really talked about is the same. It's 8041 Q. And we'll look at it. Yeah, and this one. But this one's in like this crazy portable case. So this would have been out of a TV or something. And it's got literally like a little makeshift hood to watch, you know, whatever under for the for that thing. So will someone set this to me like say, Hey, Steve, I got somebody just gave me this. It doesn't work. Will you look at it? And I've actually never looked at it. So we could actually test it and see if there's anything wrong with it here. Yeah, see if it's the see what even I'm going to like do all my other power supplies now after seeing that. Yeah, those and it's obviously a common thing because it's happening on multiple monitors. Yeah, so I would I would check that out. And and the good thing is, like I said, these power supplies are pretty universal. This one. Oh, really? So it's not just Pacific? No, it goes in all of them. Like this one goes in all those fours series. Interesting. Yeah, you've got a stockpile of those. So you could rebuild the power supplies without, you know, having a PVM down. Yeah, that's what that's what I kind of do. That's why I switched and rebuilt the one that was bad, you know, and look at this crazy thing. I mean, it's even got like some kind of kickstand like it's got it's like it's got a built in cool. Look at that. Nice. Let's the built in kickstand. Yeah, I don't know. Mine came with these two of two adapter things. You said you hadn't seen them before because I want to kind of all that's right. Yeah, I had never seen those. It's like a stand slash like it's like a rack mount kind of thing. So you could use it as a stand. It has feet on it. But it would also work in like a rack. It looks like. Yeah, I saw those. I don't know what. So the yours actually came with them. And there were two in the box. Yeah. And they fit right on it. Like, do you you don't have to do you have to screw them on anyway? Yeah, they screw on into those two holes. Okay. Wow, the front or about a quarter of the way back maybe. Yeah, this one this one's definitely looking pretty nasty. Let's see. It came from it actually has a phone number and an address in Elijah, Georgia, where it was part of event support services in ink. It's 848 041 Q from 95. And yeah, let's just let's just plug it in and see what happens. I kind of like getting pvms out west here because I always picture them being like, you know, from Hollywood or something. And they're all kind of in that area. Yeah, it's a good spot to get pvms. Yeah, I know, right? And that's there's so many old editing houses and things. My Oh, the 2030 or no, not the 2030. This black one, my only 19 inch. What is that on a 1944 Q? Okay. Which was $40. Pretty sure. Let me see. I went to pick that up. And it was this rich person's course. It was hilarious. My wife commented. Oh, that was $99. Okay. My wife commented like his horses lived better than we do. Stables were like serious houses. And then he had one of the stables was converted into like, it was like leftover video editing stuff like he edited DVDs or something for people. Yeah. So that's where one of those came from. Yeah, I know that somebody had somebody had the same thing where they had bought, well, they sent it to me to service. And it was it was similar to that. It was the 19 it was a 1942 Q I think. And it was an attorney had been using it to just watch evidence footage, I guess. And the guy was a chain smoker. So he sat and chain smoked right next to the pvm. And it was the stinkiest smoke. I mean, I couldn't like, I couldn't get like an exorcist to get this this smell. I saw some speaking of that. I just watched a documentary on the popes the other day. Yeah. And at the Vatican where they hold their conference, there were a whole bunch of pvm left like recently, you know, like leftovers from the 90s. I couldn't quite idea. But they were like, pre cube era pvms. Somebody somebody's gonna have to hit up the Vatican for their stock of old tech that they're sitting on. They probably never got rid of just put it in like a basement somewhere. All right, let's see if we can test this. Test out this. Oh, sorry, everyone. I'm kind of missing the chat because we were just talking without break here. Yeah, yeah, definitely scrolling up right now. If if you guys we've just I've just kind of been letting the chat, chat it out, everybody's been, you know, just talking in there about random things, their own pvm pickups and things. Yeah, so these monitors would be you know what else I was watching that. So I don't know about anybody else, but I don't I check out some of these free streaming services. I don't really pay for the, you know, mainline ones, but I'll have them on the Roku. And if I just want to have like random TV on like, I might go and check out the Roku free channel streaming stuff. And they will play they have like a channel that's all iron chef episodes from the 90s. And wow, so that's all I can't put that on and just watch it. And it's all replays of that. And they'll all be sitting there watching the iron chef's cook. Yeah, you know, watching these like each one of them has their own eight inch monitor at their face. And I'm just like, this is awesome. There's look at them. They're just sitting there watching them cook on their own pvm. I get caught up in that too. You're watching old movies looking for that. You see pvms everywhere because they're obviously in a sound stage and they've got the pvms on hand. So they're like, there's I would just watch Batman the other day. Oh, that has a shitload of pvms in the Batcave, including a big honking one in the middle, like I don't know if it's a 40 inch, but it's like bigger than Batman. Yeah, it's like a big it's like they drug everything in that they had on hand and made this crazy get up for them. Yeah, well, you got to think I'm sure that they already had them. So they're like, yeah, go ahead. Let's use some of them as they probably have a whole shop. Yeah, they're like on the studio. Go ahead. Yeah, they were go ahead and use those things. All right. I'm going to try to find a good power plug over here. I mentioned I mentioned my gremlins to drinking game to you. No. Oh, yeah, you did, I think. Okay, so my drinking game that I came up with you can't use hard liquor. That's the thing. You will die. You'll die. Like it's too much possible. But if you drink every time there's a PVM and gremlins to you'll be sufficiently drunk by the end because it's basically an ad for Sony Cube right from the very beginning. Like the first scene, Gizmo has one and when he sticks his hand out with a remote control, it's like the PVM 2030 kind of controller and he's got a PVM right in the shop and then it just gets crazy from there and by the end, like, you know, if you had to drink for every PVM, you'd be really screwed because there's one scene when they make it to the top of the corporate tower where there's like 20 of them or more in one. The big boss has a ton of them. It's a huge showcase of the cubes. Oh, wow. That's that's so fun to look at like at stuff like that. I've got to go check that one out. I actually watched a recent movie. The the the movie called Air about Michael Jordan's shoes that came out. I don't know. I mean, it wasn't even out in theaters that long. I noticed it was on prime already, so I watched it and that is that's like a set designer's dream from the 80s. Like they used literal early 80s. They had a media room where this guy sat there and watched old video VHS tapes and Betamax tapes of of of NBA players on a KV Woodgrain CRT. And then they were all out in like the marketing office on these Tandy computers with these beautiful monitors. And then they went and they pitched Michael Jordan and his family and they said roll the video and they click over and they show an actual CRT projector click on and they showed the three like show. That's what I was like what because most people wouldn't have even known that and the only reason I know that is because the museum sent one here and it's like the most unbelievable pain in the neck thing to calibrate. I don't even have like a right spot in my house. Like is it like a million pounds? Yes. It's it's the size of it's it's heavier than a 20 inch like pvm. It's and it's wide big. It's got three individual tubes that somehow it beams the picture through. Yeah so but anyway I was like blown away. That's good attention to detail. That they actually did this. I noticed in the Mr. Rogers movie with Tom Hanks. Yeah. There's a ton of pvms everywhere like in the studio scenes and stuff but a lot of them aren't period correct because you'll see you know it's supposed to be the 80s but there's like cubes hanging from the ceiling and stuff but it's fine. I think also in Joker there's some that are not period correct in the audience scenes where it says like a applause. Yeah. It's like a Sony cube pvm or something and it's supposed to be like I don't know late 70s early 80s something like that. Well kind of things that I have to talk to with you because otherwise we'll never be able to talk to anyone else about them. Did you see that? They had a pvm and it was a wrong pvm. It's like. So let's uh let's see what this this is look at this. See? Guess what? No power. Right? I bet you this has the same bad capacitors in it that we've just been talking about. Yeah. If it powered on and you got static uh you'd be or well yeah it sounds like work bad color uh yeah but not turning on that's exactly what mine was doing by the end. Yeah that's what that's what that one did yesterday so we'll see um yeah thanks for uh everybody showing up again. I know some people in the chat have said the stream's looking better. Thank you. I actually I actually signed up for the Early Bird Special for the Epis Vox new OBS class because I was tying the bag in my head against the wall. I was like I'm gonna go through because I'm like every time I make a setting and it's right it's because I watched all and did what his video says. All my stuff is from him too. I was like this is so I said I'm just gonna do it. I just get the settings right. I have a recommendation for you. Okay. So if you use Skype for people for your guests. Yeah. There's a cool feature it has you can get an NDI plugin for OBS. Okay. And then uh Skype gives you access like raw direct like raw video and audio. So it's better. For every person. I discovered this one I had to do my uh no I just discovered it. I had to do a stream where I had a whole bunch of people. It was the Mr. Telephone. Okay. I had like 20 different people so I needed an audio and video feed for each one individually which you can't really do with like discord and stuff. But Skype is nice because it gives you NDI so every person shows up as a different video source that you had and the video quality that it gives you is whatever they're giving. So like if they're sending 1080p you've got like it looks really good too as a side effect. You're just stuck on Skype is the sad thing. Yeah well that's good. I didn't know I didn't know there was anything that there was a good reason to use Skype and that is that is actually a good reason because like you said when you're using discord you're just kind of you're stuck with whatever discord kind of gives you. And especially once you get into multiple people it gets really hard with audio. I could see that being a big troublesome. Alright. Alright. Yes. Here we go. Look at this and now I'm really going to step it up here a second. First Monty. No not yet. Monty G said his wife said I look like Chris Jericho and yes I have gotten that all my life. That's funny. Yeah the Chris Jericho I used to actually go to like I would go with my friends to wrestling and they'd be like are you what are you doing back here? I'm like dumb man wait we're about to have an awesome segment. Just mess with kids. But all right watch this let's see if I can do this and not make the whole stream blow up. I'm going to have to adjust your look here. There we go. Look at this we got we got we got the four four-way view. We've got too many screens we got like we got like eight pvms on the screen right now so yeah I even added the overhead camera a little bit so we'll well let's just keep talking and remove this actual power supply. This screen over here if you heard of Mr's retina display support 1536p video output that it does. No. So okay so Sorge had built a laptop using an iPad 3 screen years ago and he added in 1536p support which is a really weird resolution on the surface. That is weird. But it's actually like for computers and things it's actually a brilliant one because it scales like in 25% steps to a lot of crazy resolutions but Mr can output 1536p so that's what this one is that's an iPad 3 monitor in a frame which you can get for like 40 bucks from AliExpress. Okay. A metal frame it makes like a real I use it mostly as a monitor for my computer. But it also like works great for Mr purposes. That's very cool. I actually need to get another Mr so I can just do more for like testing. You should have got extra Mr's years. Right boy. Talk about yeah talk about something that's about like the price of houses now it's just like never goes just keeps going up never hit no one can have enough of them. Yeah I think I looked at I mean it's it's in the mid two hundreds now if you can find it right just like just the D10 yeah but and it's and the funny thing is it's still is a better value at that price than it's still great value it's funny I have a bunch of videos about like eat Mr setup and they're so dated now because I was like what there was a time when it was on sale for 110 bucks and I'm like just go get it 110 bucks and you can play PC engine on it right out of the box you don't need any add-ons right and now it's like the you know 210 maybe out of the box. Yeah if you can get oh man it's yeah it's it's just crazy the but that thing is such a useful tool I think just even outside of what we are we're doing with it. Yeah I basically I think of it as like the ultimate I don't know if you see it though as the ultimate like capture device really really it also you know like because instead of me juggling plug-in thing that's true all the time like we used to do just like you know you have digital output it goes straight in you can send it to anything and you're rolling yeah a thousand consoles. It's pretty easy and even like the one I got you could easily output the one I have is that I've used most of times in my mist or Mr. Cade one and it does you know the V there the output on the board but at the same time you could just stream right out of that if you wanted out of the digital output right on the same board because right now I put it on a just a flat screen monitor so I can put it in Tate because I don't have really good setup for that and nice so that's this one actually looks really clean inside. Well that's a good sign. Do you usually like how do you clean you blow them out with compressed air or something? Yeah so I I'll show you the one I've been using it's it's like a generic branded one from Amazon it's a little oh you use one of those things yeah that's what I use like a corded like for cleaning computers. It's not even corded it's you got the wireless one. Yeah it's like a rechargeable little thing here. Oh yeah yeah that's what I use but mine has a cord. Yeah you can put a cord. Hey CRT bot thanks for this $2 super chat. Good to see you here today. That's awesome. Yeah CRT man. I didn't either. All right so yeah this is this is our power supply that is probably bad let's say here and it's the yeah it's the exact same like match for match model part number is my spare but even if the model numbers don't match completely that doesn't really matter. But everything else. I'll be curious to see if this fires right up for you. Yeah if it does we'll take that power supply apart. I hope it does. You should take bets. I'll put. I'll put. Hey what do you think? I'll put some beers the next time we get together. Yeah that's what I'm saying. I'm about to actually have to go get another beer in a second now that I've. Yeah me too. Get this thing turned on hopefully it'll fire up. Now if it doesn't go I do know like we will work our way through some other things because there's which would be interesting because there's some other things that it could possibly be this particular PVM has you know Sony put obviously glass normal common fuses in it but they also did solid like board soldered end fuses and this has a couple of them and you have to obviously use a multimeter to check if those are blown but if those are blown the power won't be won't come on. That's a good tip. I loved working on this thing man. This one's actually super friendly to work on you know. I didn't even remove that panel and I did the soldering I just left it in the plastic flap I had to lift it up to get to a few of them but. Oh really? Like you just flip I just flipped out its little wings and did the caps I could get to. Oh okay yeah I know what you're talking about. The one I had when I pulled it out it was it had gotten so hot that the it had basically glued itself inside of it. Oh wow. With the epoxy or the caulk that was in there. All right that should be should be enough right there to test. I just need to plug my neck board back in but even I've had a couple of good people come in and want to actually like and I've talked to them many times about this size pvm and forget like service work done to them and I'm just like man it is literally a labor of love because again you're paying you know more than it's actually work to get service. Which I don't understand. I think that you're kind of if anybody who repairs consoles or TVs pvm it's like you're a hero because it's just like I can't imagine what it would cost say if you hired I don't know someone who wasn't like this wasn't what they did you know somebody who just repairs electronics in general and charges a hundred bucks an hour yeah how much it would cost to fix something. Yeah and it's and they don't know like half the what to look for really it's all right let's see let's see just do a file I forgot to plug one thing in somewhere that's the wrong plug in that might have been fine. I plugged the ground cable in where the where like the DC voltage comes out of the power supply oh my god no no thankfully I didn't depress that on I don't know what to see I was just chatting away and not paying attention only had one beer I promise all right but let's see see I can actually get that a little bit in view no so we're actually not getting not getting power maybe maybe a fuse maybe something else let's see all right you sure you got it plugged in everything yeah that's what I was about to double check it's definitely it's definitely plugged in that's like 90% of my problems I have right just is tracks down to like something is not plugged in all right let's just make sure everything actually is plugged in now this one I didn't plug in is no big deal right here people can see that's just a tally light so that doesn't actually do anything how do you turn those on by the way uh that's right on the front used through the remote there's a remote back here input that looks it's what is it it's 8 pin 8 pin Dan all right so that obviously I just want to make sure everything actually is plugged in but that one is not yeah we'll have to check some fuses I think I know I thought we'd get lucky there maybe make sure I can see the fuses down down there's fine I'm definitely not sure that's plugged in okay I'm going to grab another beer and then you can grab one but I can still hear you while I go down okay oh okay yeah this one okay I'll just make sure that this one is still plugged in my plug in over here well it's not going to go that far I know it's good let's just check some fuses fuses are actually on this opposite side here hey Brian hey James good to see you thank you for coming hanging out shadow mask if y'all are having a good evening tonight it's fun to be able to switch it up and do the evening streams when I can all right maybe we'll again have some luck here I also have other boards we can swap in here let's see yeah do you have spares of like the color boards and things yeah so I actually have a spare of this board and the nice hey Marco yeah this piece so this one is just not powering on and this was just like a bonus one that I had here in the shop it's 804 1q yeah so if we look I know it's going to be hard to see on four camera view with the little but guy right here but where my finger is there's a f 1601 and it's a one 1.25 amp views that is again soldered into place in here and if that blows it won't it won't work so hopefully that's what's wrong with it but but if it's not then it could be something else I was looking around here and didn't see anything but uh hey Dennis Dennis said that he's a friend of the guy who gave me the Atari Jaguar that's awesome that's cool I just passed on uh the Jag CD to uh Hotego oh really which like I like obsessed over this Jag CD it was broken when it came to me and so I gave it like the full golden glove treatment you know like all new caps what I put up region free BIOS I think new laser so it was like the ultimate Jag CD wow sent that out to uh Hotego for uh FPGA work nice yeah I um I never had the Jaguar or the Jaguar CD obviously and I never um I remember going into a again about the same time it was probably 2016 2017 and I went in a local uh retro gaming shop and somebody had gone in and like turned in their childhood collection in box with everything and like 15 16 games and they wanted like 350 dollars for all of it and this was before anybody care I know it's one of those things where I was like oh this I know I should buy this I know I should buy this and I never did and and then I was like oh I'll never see that again and now it's just like yeah actually I do see it now but it's like it'll be like 1200 dollars even more than like bad all right let me go grab a beer I passed on uh yeah you go ahead okay I can keep talking to the chat I passed on uh a Jaguar to another FPGA dev for a really good price maybe like three years ago uh like maybe like a hundred bucks or something and then I got the Jag CD to Hotego and now I'm just a one Jaguar household once again oh hey Tim's here GC8 tech how's it going we were talking about libredo's a little while back uh when Steve asked me about my what I'm running on this new monitor yeah I actually so I had gotten a Jaguar it must have been like 99 or two sale for nothing and uh it might have been 98 it was before no yeah it was before college so 97 98 somewhere in there got it a grad sale brought it home came with alien versus predator I think and maybe cyber morph I hated it like I was such a douche at that point about like uh I was like the PC you know master race by then I guess like just to the extent that like if I played Doom on my computer from almost you know five or six years ago it looked insane and then you're looking at AVP on the Jaguar and it was just like terrible so that was might have been the very that and a virtual boy were like the two first things I ever sold on eBay that was in the year 2000 and I think I got very little for it so that's my Jaguar store I really didn't like it back then and I generally have warmed up to it now just as a curiosity yeah and it has just enough my rule is like as long as a console even has just one game that's great it's justified because I collect arcade games anyways and that's like right more than a console and you get one game in the end so like the Jag has a handful like the humans is cool Rayman is really good on it you know it has four or five cool games really good games I would say and then a bunch of like jump yeah I think uh it's it's one of the just yeah enigma weird systems I think all of us go through these periods where we try to go back and find them I know that for me for the longest time it was the 3DO really for some odd reason I have no idea what it was and because it had that weird status yeah that's again we grew up with it like kind of like Sega CD to it never really we've I played one maybe once or twice when it was a thing but I always saw it as like once you get a Sega CD you've made it in the world yeah you know that and the Lamborghini and the Neo Geo if you were lucky enough to have a Neo Geo okay so we actually have unfortunately these fuses are good ah so something else in there because yeah that's that one's obviously good I think it's only that one let me look around in here and see but what we can do is even just for the heck of it swap the boards and see if there's any difference maybe we can narrow it down to the other two boards because it also could be like uh I mean obviously there's some other power stuff like up in here we've got voltage regulators that could go bad how much work is it to get at that PCB on the bottom this one yeah well the the it's not so much getting the PCB out the problem is uh if you look over here these caps well not just that they're glued on like with epoxy oh so you can use acetone I believe make sure to lick your finger yeah I can't get under there if I wanted to that's the only reason I'm over here messing around with it oh so that's a mess then so you got it yeah you got to get that D off there and then you could get that board out but that is something that could go bad too right that's the horizontal uh the hot whatever horizontal output transistor that one could go bad and cause trouble right so that's definitely something there's a inductor right here lying over that looks like that might not be a good thing I don't know yeah I didn't bother taking that board oh look at that I'd have to do a bunch of stuff yeah I'm trying to see if that part's even in there it looks like it is but I'm not a hundred percent sure it also could be yeah it's in there just making sure that inductor's in there because they left it super long legs on it okay um but uh yeah that with these ones are pretty easy to get out so well we'll just swap them and maybe we'll have one part bad talking svhs players as I probably missed I missed those but I did get into hi eight because I used to bootleg concerts okay did it with uh had a really little hi eight camcorder my it was my friend's dad's and we would just borrow that and I would sneak it into the concerts in a saltine cracker box and I would tell them that I was diabetic and so when they're going to your shit and if they ever said like oh you can't bring food in I was like oh I need that in case my blood sugar gets down that's why I got it nice all right we're gonna swap this board see because if it doesn't and then if it doesn't do anything different then we know hey something else is going on not on this board probably so nicely organized this one yeah remember you said that you thought the pvm 2030 was easy to work on oh I don't think I said that was easy to work on no that one yeah because I opened my 2030 and like I immediately put it back together and I was like no I'm waiting to this till this break it is not no that one the that one's terrible now this one does have some of the I don't know why this is probably bad but I always it's like an easy association these are they'll this board has jammy con jammy and I always just want to call them Jamaican Jamaican caps jammy con caps that that's not that's an effect tracks yeah that's not that great it's not the worst but then I I don't want to see those things no way they're not especially with their 30 years old only cons I want to see are like Rubicon Nisha con chemicon yeah no Jamaican no no caps Sean all right thanks for coming tonight Velma take care man all right I'm gonna go grab the extra boards are right here oh they want to know what I think of the analog do I think it looks cool so here's the problem I think it's interesting that they're gonna get it I forgot about so these these uh this board if I look at it I'll show it to you oh that one you've recapped right no no no this was one I just grabbed out of the parts bin so I don't I mean it could be bad also but it looked it looked fine but the problem is it's like it was it was it was scrapped so the person who scrapped it cut this cable because it it stays in that board right there so I have to desolder this one I mean it pops right out yeah well it pops out on this end and then they just cut it on this end all right so well let's try the other board maybe we'll get lucky it's a color board issue I doubt it but let's swap that board because that one doesn't have the same problem okay town ask how the retro pc is coming we talked about that like 20 minutes ago if you uh yeah if you go back over you can go back we talked a good bit about length so it's going good though everything on it works now I'm just like obsessing over little things like I recapped the power supply I uh recapped the sound blaster card little things like that or no actually the power supply that's right I have one that's recapped it's going in a different computer build later so definitely check out yeah we talked a lot about the build and everything um oh so I had uh oh I had a funny thing today I had to go um I had to go on a school field trip for my daughter and she's in first grade so we went so we went to this place called uh there's a university here and they have like a garden there called an arboretum where it's just filled with you know flowers paths that's national no this is actually in I live in Virginia now okay so this is in the university is called James Madison University uh so they anyway they have this big garden there and that's where this um that's where this field trip was at in the first half of the field trip was them going to like a playground and I got there and I'd never really done anything and the teacher was like hey nice to meet you mr. Nutter uh you can watch your daughter and this other kid this boy named uh I can't even remember his name now I want to say I feel bad but um Gordy that was his name Gordy I was there I knew it was a G I knew it was a G anyway fine kid he was running around first grade two boy uh but we got through the first part which was crazy trying to watch them at a playground keep up with them so the second half was in the gardens and it was like a tour through the gardens and they're like now don't touch stuff because there could be poison ivy in here right and that's all of them oh who's gonna get poison ivy I don't want poison ivy what about you you're gonna get poison ivy well I mean my my daughter didn't get poison ivy but within like five minutes I hear this boy who I'm supposed to be watching go oh and I'm like what did you do and he's like I think I got poison ivy I looked down at his hand and it's broken out it just hives and he's like scratching and I'm like yeah you got poison ivy and yeah and I was like oh my gosh great the kid I was watching uh only kid I was watching and got poison ivy and so that was a good lesson for yeah yeah oh yeah well that's what they were like now don't touch anything unless it's dead and uh like not growing and then some kid would like pull a flower and the lady was like oh I see you just couldn't help yourself they gotta love that yeah that's what I said listen this way she probably is like over this all right and then um my son he had he has a field trip tomorrow so I don't have to go to that one thankfully he's in he's in middle school my wife will go to that one and embarrass him he's at that age where he doesn't want to miss anybody to be around not cool parents you know he doesn't even know how cool you guys are all right let's just I mean I don't think there's anything much that can go bad on this board but we'll just swap it because I don't think that there's anything that can it looks a little different but you just have all these no there's a missing this one's missing a part two actually now that I'm looking at it this one has an unpopulated spot right there let me see if I can put if it moved to a different spot mm-hmm wouldn't that one go to I wonder we'll just leave it unplugged let's see if it makes any difference because I don't think it's so when you get a like eight inch if you get it working you list it for sale with your patrons around ebay or something oh you use these so I don't the eight inch ones I haven't really sold any of them I don't think I don't know they use ones I usually sell on patreon a predominantly 14 inches most of the time and these ones I might I I would like to probably get rid of one of them eventually I've also got I've also got the newer one like a nine uh a nine l are those nine inch then are they eight no there's still eight inch uh it's just I think I looked at those two yeah I kind of regret not getting because they were so cheap back then too and I just got like the cheapest of the cheap that you could get to get these yeah I got one at 40 and then the seller had other ones listed and I was like can you combine shipping and like the combined shipping was nothing so I just bought all three of them look at this crazy stuff there's some crazy factory botches in here where they added like and it's on both boards I never noticed this before they got the legs of these capacitors here with a it's hard to see but there's a resistor yeah like twisted in and soldered to the lag on these are these are bipolar capacitors so it's just odd yeah I never replace those anyways because I don't keep them around yeah those are the I have a couple of them and sometimes I don't I might have like one value yeah that's the thing yeah I don't I can't can't fathom why that was deep populated on this board connection 106 trying to even see what it is it's not oh James is asking how's the new pumpkins out I love it it's phenomenal but you have to give it a few listens is my advice and I didn't like that they released it one track at a time like one track per week because I was finding myself not liking a lot of songs when they did it that way but as a whole it's awesome that's my thoughts on that excellent oh I wore this shirt today because you're into rebound pumps oh yeah and in the game drac attack on the NES yeah drac wears we got rebound pumps in that game he does you gotta play it's a prototype yeah it's like an ad for rebound pumps oh and I think it's the only appearance of rebound pumps in any game even in the shack games he's not wearing shacks yeah so that's my theory okay I actually have yeah I have a pair of pumps and yeah I saw that badass prayer you got omnis yeah I have a bin I have a bin full of pumps really I can't wear them anymore because out west it's so hot oh yeah they're hard to wear yeah they get they're like boots they are like boots just very special occasions and I I can't run in them like my I I need to get some better insoles for them or something because they are just so flat that I even have flatter foot and I get my if I try to run real quick in them and my arches just start hurting immensely and so I don't know about it but but I definitely had to go back it's one of those things again I got my 3DO and my I just got into the 3DO recently too in the last couple years I was looking for one everywhere I wanted a specific one you know with the rgb switch on it or not rgb 240p right the european one or something yeah I didn't end up getting that Joe Rettifer sent me his one of his old ones and then I found a new version of the 240p mod that's really easy I tweeted about this like 10 times easier than the old one it's just like okay two wires maybe yeah and that s video with 240p like it looks right right just to is it the one where you just put a little switch in or yeah you put a switch there was an original mod which I'd done originally it was a pain because every time you turn it on you have to have it in 480i mode and then switch to 440p otherwise you get a black screen and every time you reset the new one actually triggers it exactly the same way as the native switch on them okay so you can do it in game you know you can leave it starts up it's just like totally perfect wow so after I did that because I had been considering the rgb 2 and I was like I'm never gonna play this thing so I probably don't need the rgb mod if the s video looks fine yeah I would kind of like to stream with it I mean it has some pretty fantastic stuff on it yeah wing commander 3 has like the best version of it did you ever play um I actually have wing commander 3 did you ever play a game called wirehead on it or heard of that one I might have heard of that I burned like 70 discs for it okay games that I was not ironically like games I'm actually interested in it's one of these wacky wacky FMV videos or games where you control a guy and you're doing like a story with him and it's just one of the more unique crazy ones that um no that one actually no I'm sorry that was on the Sega CD see now I'm thinking the wrong things got it's easy to get the rgb stuff next up but the one thing I really liked on it on the 3do is the uh the light the light gun games um I have yeah I bought see when I bought my 3do it was when nobody again wanted it it was from a pawn shop and it came in it was the first one I bought was an FC1 it came in the original box and it was like 150 for it and I opened the box and they the pawn shop had thrown all this stuff in it and it was like three games like 10 demo discs and then it had the game gun in the box the game boxed game gun came in it and there was very valuable now I know that's like the most valuable thing I have is this game gun in the box so there's that and then it had uh it had this really old school um home or third party adapter to plug in two super nintendo controllers oh yeah and it was again way old from like the 90s and that's valuable too I'm sure yeah it's made now but there's a couple of since you have the gun I can't play these because I don't have but somebody converted uh there were a couple of arcade games that were just 3dos inside okay gun games and there's mods to run them on the real 3do if you have the gun oh I didn't know that either yeah I've got I've got the real real deal I should go get that thing that uh so there's there's some amazing yeah just gun games one of them is um drug wars but it's like crime some crime something anyway it's called it's a sequel to this cop game where you just shoot and stuff but this second one is called drug wars and it's literally a cheesy like Tony Montana who you're chasing around and you're the young cop trying to infiltrate the drug cartel and you're shooting you know FMV video where you just basically have to remember where every person pops up so um but it's been gosh it's been a while since I've I've played um anything on it I know that somebody you know there's an ode or a optical drive emulator that's pretty available I was on a verge of getting that yeah but I figured like one day when my disk drive stops working I'll get one because it's kind of pricey yeah that's true really into it it's still yeah it's like a $300 investment yeah and like I think the 3do is cool but I need to see if I would really get my money's worth out of because especially since I burned all these disks already which took forever yeah because I burn at 1x you do oh yeah what what are you using that's a good conversation what are you using to burn a cd or the cd right now is it just an external like dvd burn I have like you asked the wrong guy because I collect these but I make uh I'll turn this is like this is my main one is a Plexer or something I just like the the made in Japan Plexters and Yamaha is mainly is what I go for and then you can get any old USB 1.0 like old external drive you can get these for nothing and then you just stick them in here and you've got a little external burner in it you don't need drivers or anything you just plug it into windows and it's like ready to go and they're like I've never really I've never burnt I might have burned like one or two coasters ever with this thing so they're just like badass inside it's all brass rails okay really nice laser just like nothing at all like what came later once they like started moving to like China and Malaysia and stuff that's cool so you how long does it take to burn the game at 1x uh maybe is it like an hour maybe like 40 minutes something like that and but it just seems to work a lot better always when you do it at that it's just a stupid thing it's just a stupid thing some people even say that maybe with modern me it's been going at like the speed they're rated for but I've just always since the beginning of time I've just always burned at 1x so I just keep doing it because I don't want to change the tradition you know I have and I also have four or five so I can be doing four or five at once okay you know like when I was doing the 3DO I had my whole stack out okay wow so yeah you've literally have been burning those for a while then yeah that that was like a week you know getting all those puppies out oh awesome because I do have like two or three hundred discs that I wanted to get through before I die so that was a good use of a chunk of them because otherwise like you just keep toting them around for like yeah more years or whatever I've already had them for 10 what uh I mean yeah the the thing about just like I always feel like when I get the optical drive emulator then I just pop it in and unless it's something I really want it's it almost becomes like it turns the console kind of into the emulation experience where you're you're easily able to switch between games so you're not really invested in it you don't try some things you just let it go you laugh at it and move on which some of the things are fine I think ODUs are cool they're just so expensive yeah they are too like I don't know say and then some of them that do like multi-device you know there's a new one coming that's gonna do a whole bunch of different consoles that's great it's great that it can do that but it doesn't do me any good I need it to be cheap like $300 if I was gonna get one for every console covered talking like three grand you know yeah I'd rather have specialized ones that are cheaper you know like the Fenrir is really cheap you know then I can actually think about because like even the mode like 300 bucks dreamcast when I have all these burned discs I have a mode in this one and in my Saturn but I got those for free I don't know I could afford to buy like $600 worth of just for two consoles and they were they read this just fine and that's how I've always done it yeah I would get like I mean like $100 is a great deal that's you know like for the Fenrir or whatever but talking $300 like I have to be seriously invested in a console to dump that kind of money and just to one of them it's a lot it is a lot for sure and not well you're not just even talking about that because you can't you can easily pay $300 getting a kind of refurbished 3DO console you know so then you're trying to spend $300 for the console to get it going and then another $300 for yeah the optical drive emulator so yeah you're talking piece of the whole thing you're you're like invested six or seven hundred dollars into a system and then it's at that price level you feel like you should be playing it like a non-stop now there was game okay there was one game that I actually liked and I don't know if you've tried this on the 3DO but it was a first person shooter and I think it was called killing time is anybody in the chat heard of killing time so it was this it was like you went into this weird old mansion and there were a lot of the you'd fight these like the FMVs would come out as like ghost characters and they'd be real characters telling you part of the story that was pretty cool the problem was is the original game which I had a copy of you got into the basement of the house and it had a bug in it where this is like four hours into this first person shooter and it would just start crashing like the you'd walk in the downstairs and it had like this dark like doom doom walls and then it just start flashing in front of you and I got so frustrated because I there's no way to update four hours then it was I looked it up and this was of course well after it it was like oh yeah if you get the killing time disc that's like black instead of red it's an original one and those are the ones that can't get past the fourth or the basement and it glitches out and so I was uh I never got I wanted to beat that game a lot and then I just I couldn't I couldn't do anything about it because I'd ever had that real game in there burn a disc that's what I have to do go 1x and burn it and play four hours into it that's the thing I do that it's not worth another topic to talk about okay what I was back there doing I wanted to get my two toshiba's on oh yes uh so this is the toshiba you just reviewed although you you reviewed the larger version of yeah I'm gonna move it over here I have the uh 14 af 43 and 20 af 43 okay I had gone to pick up the 20 this is when I lived in Madison Wisconsin I think it was free there's next to free and like they were like oh we have the 14 inch of this too if you want that and I was like okay uh because they have component inputs right and that was when I was just first going RGB master race and uh using a component transcoder uh like this one is actually I always used it for NES and Atari 7800 s video and okay this one was like one of my first component bearing uh CRTs okay but I think so I think that you were well first of all you gave him a C minus in your video okay and actually when I when I was an undergrad I would have the opportunity to take classes past fail sometimes and C minus is like that's what you're going for oh yeah that's like the least amount of work and you still get full credit so I think the toshiba did pretty well in that respect yeah but I think you also got a bunk unit that you were looking at because mine don't have that ghosting and stuff that you were well I got I gotta tell you too I found because a lot of people have reached out to me on a number of things they're very politely right the af 45 the one that I reviewed the the actual like 44 and the 43 before it were supposedly much better made and don't I don't know some people told me they don't even have the same like lead free solder issues and they may even have be sweet they they may even have better tubes and them now did you mine open I didn't do I was gonna say did you do that no I think okay no I will though when I do that I'll take pictures and then you can uh yeah I bet those people are wrong yeah it's probably just an orion and that's the thing if it's not an orion tube we know it's different but um that was I found these because uh when I had uh so at the time I needed smaller TVs and I had a Trinitron a two nice big Trinitrons and a Mitsubishi a really big one 20 I think they were all 27s or so and I had gone to the uh the second time I went to the midwest gaming convention it was like 2015 maybe okay and so they had their console room or I was like looking at it like shopping my next TV because I wanted to get a different one and you could back then you could just get anything you wanted for pretty much nothing so I had been going around the room and I mean I had already had Trinitron so I had done that you know I felt like and they looked okay but I actually saw the 20 I like I wrote down the model number of the 20 AF 43 at the convention because it just like stood out as like looking good maybe in retrospect I thought that flat screens looked better back then maybe that's what it was but it like it stood out for some reason at the convention in this room full of nice TVs and maybe a few PVMs and things wow so the um see I have now I have a Toshiba that came out right before this AF series that's the bubble screen still and it's a 32 inch and it is an it's a beautiful consumer set like the way it works and looks it was one it was one that my mom bought after after that it was after that house fire okay she bought it and then it has component it's still bubble tube and it looks amazing and she's like you want this and I was like yeah I still want it it's still upstairs in my main living room it's like the main TV I have all these downed converters downed converters to put modern stuff into it and Toshiba stuff is awesome yeah I can't quality most of that I opened up if I don't know if you can see it there's a sound bar up here 42 speaker sound bar shielded oh I don't know if you can see it up here shielded Toshiba 42 speaker sound bar from back in the day whoa they're kind of vertical it's fully shielded and I opened it up and it's like audio grade uh Nishikon something like it's all like gold caps and like it's real it has like three layers of metal shielding you have to get through just to get into it it's heavy as hell like these things monsters and then those old CD art CD burn to their Toshiba are like fantastic inside like you wouldn't recap them unless they broke kind of stuff yeah yeah it's a Toshiba ysp 1000 okay it'd be it like I'm using it as the speaker for this pvm the gray one here just the one yeah and it well it's also hooked up to the TV okay there's a workout room behind those curtains back there so let's talk a little bit about this because this is one of the things you came back and and we're talking about kind of I don't know whether we call it the smoke monster comeback tour but one of the first things you did was show off your home theater room and the challenges with putting that together and yeah that was so this is my first house I've ever lived in here okay and so I went like it's the first time I've had space and we had an extra room like there's an extra small bedroom so I converted that into a home theater with like like I had full rain in there to do whatever I want kind of room you know like so I like draped it in black velvet the blacked out now the ceiling with black velvet I put in black carpet and then I have like a 4k I actually just sent it back because I got an rma my projector got a stuck pixel a few really and I it's way past the thing is it's like six months out of warranty and they still gave me an rma for oh nice that is good vava chroma so they actually won me back because I was kind of like not really crazy about them I don't know if you caught that in my video I did yeah but now they won me back because that's insanely awesome so I'm gonna get a replacement it's a 4k triple laser ultra short throw projector so you don't need it's a tiny room you know normally with a projector you need quite a long throw right all the projectors I was looking at were longer than mine so the ultra short throw is kind of perfect in there yeah there was one when I went to work with last year the museum in houston they had like the most expensive the most expensive projector they had was one that was almost it looked like five or six feet back from where it was being projected on the wall and it was like coming down and it was such a short and I was like that's pretty nuts because it was it was uh they it was they were using it in they had the obama port presidential portraits there and I couldn't believe it like how the playback video was coming from just like because every other than the audience doesn't block no no because then they're like people would walk right up to it right and it wouldn't it wouldn't block because every other one you noticed that people would walk right up to it in their shadow would be on it this one is I think like 22 inches from the wall okay yeah that's crazy 135 inches is my screen okay yeah it is almost like magic it's a pain in the ass I mean if they mounted on the ceiling somebody probably spent like full day doing that yeah he's getting it set up but yeah like once I got it where I wanted it I was like there's like a no-go zone where like you don't walk you don't want to bump into it you know I bumped into it early on and had to redo it all yeah just a barely touching that's that's incredible what you said that that's what the guy told me that's literally you know he's the he's the head of the av department for the museum and he has to go around every morning and then periodically through the day and check all the projectors because like you say it could take nothing for it to if it moves at all it's going to look bad and like a millimeter yes nothing perfect otherwise you've got like lines showing up or you know it's going off your screen yeah he he actually that'd be a crazy job that's what he he was he was like I was I talked to him recently he came through a couple weeks ago and for another thing he was doing and he stopped by and he was telling me about I said what are you working on now and he's like oh it's it's one of these that has he said I'm going to be working on it for like six weeks because I think he said it had like 14 it was one room with 14 different projectors set up in it oh wow like all the way around yeah like all different places for different visual effects like that is the whole museums yeah that's where you go in and it's a whole experience right in the room surround sound yeah and uh so I don't know it's that's what I he's like yeah I've got to try to figure it out and uh that's why he said he sent me with this working it's literally from 1985 with native rgb 240p bnc in on this uh this professional sony uh projector and it works we saw we got it working he wants me to learn how to set it up so then I could go and he's like I need you to be the contractor that comes in and helps me set up all these projectors like man I don't know anything about this stuff but I gotta he's like here take this and figure it out then so that's awesome I haven't I haven't had a lot of chance to do that yet but I'm uh I'm looking forward to hopefully I've got to clear out like a space where I can actually make adjustments and see it happen kind of thing you know those are really interesting the crt projectors I know venezera has one a huge one really uh in her garage yeah yeah because it's like it's like a sear it's like all the benefits of a crt plus you get scan lines right yeah and uh it's like zero input lag of course now the funny thing is is like the lumens on them is super low like it's like a hundred lumens per bulb which if you look at so it needs to be like pitch black right it needs to be pretty much pitch black for it to look the best um so that's what I found with my projector like it looked okay when I first got it looked good you would say you would say that looks good but like the more black I made that room like every little bit of black that I went in there the black carpet made it look way better blacking out the ceiling made it look so much and like once everything was black in there it just looks like a thousand times better because it's relatively low-loom too compared to yeah big powerful projector yeah I think that I think that's a big uh a big key thing I mean it always is even when using professional crt's a lot of times in the bvms they were meant to be used in extremely dark environments as dark as you can make them and uh oh I did have I wanted to ask you oh and before I forget I did have another cool thing since we mentioned the uh shielded yama aha soundbar up there I had a cool thing that I wanted to tell you about so you remember the Bose radio this thing back here Bose wave radios yep I remember those uh they sound they don't sound very good I'll say that they're magnetically shielded and they're uh okay so they're kind of like yeah like in here I wanted I didn't want to do switching set up with a million different rca inputs to everything like I just want to have each pvm has some speakers attached to it so like that pvm or one of the pvm that one here gets that uh Bose wave radio okay and then I've also but for something that's really nice are Bose music monitor speakers which I don't think I can grab any right now oh yeah I can good old Bose wave radios my in-laws radio my in-laws have like a half a dozen of those just hanging around it really doesn't sound very good the Bose wave radio like I'll say that like people are right to critique it but these Bose music monitors are fully shielded they're metal nice sound for the size like they sound phenomenal like obscenely good uh they're like if you go on ebay they're like a hundred hundred fifty bucks but you can actually stock ebay or uh I got someone mercury like I've got like three or four pairs now for like all less than 50 bucks each shipped so you can find them cheap if people don't know what they are exactly and these things they're tiny yeah they look really good next to a pvm like they they come in black I've got some with my 2030 that look really good these are insanely good if you just need some like you know obviously it's not going to be like bumping or anything your house but just like if you just want some small speakers that don't interfere with it a little bit of face yeah mm-hmm now I always that's great yeah people are always asking about that and I most of the time do tell them to go and try to find things that are from that era because it's it's not it's never an issue of um it doesn't matter how high quality the speakers are kind of now they've gotten rid of that whole mm-hmm shielding process because it's not the same type of shielding that you need for modern stuff you know it's not like that that magnetism doesn't affect anything so you could buy the best speakers on the planet right now and they wouldn't really probably have any shielding against mm-hmm so that's why like you really aren't doing yourself any favors most of the time by buying new stuff to pair I think you can get so the Bose wave radio and the wave CD player I watched in order to figure this out I watched tear down videos before I got one okay and you can just see that that it shielded and then I got it in here and I tested it and I mean it does not no interference whatsoever it looks like the Bose wave and their CD player are shielded and then there was like this like four thousand dollar the original Bose yeah it looks cool and it has a tape player on top so it's basically a badass boombox it's fully shielded except the subwoofer on the bottom of it isn't okay to put it under a tv so those go they aren't very expensive like none of this is I mean there's a million wave radios well if you're talking about the wave radio it makes sense that it had to be shielded because how many people do you think just bought that thing and set it right on top of their console tv that would have been the first thing that most people people probably did yep all right I think we got some questions James I don't know if you're asking me if we've ever had to use a degaussing coil yes I got one I had questions about this actually oh you did cool yeah I use it all the time all the time if I have a magnetism issue I got rid of a little bit but not all okay one of my toshiba's it has a little bit of I don't know I must have set next to a speaker or something just a tiny bit of offline but I waved this around kind of like you I saw you doing one video like a wizard and I did that for a while and it made actually did make it way better but I didn't I didn't know if there was any risk of damaging it so I didn't do it very long so the only thing that they say to be mindful of is that thing generates a lot of heat and so you can't run it for like more than two minutes at a time really and then you need to let it cool for like for like an hour yeah it it it runs in an enormous amount it'll catch fire if you just like turn it on and left it right like is there any risk it can do to the tv's or not generally I know people always like oh you probably fried out your wallet cards you know your your hard drives oh yeah I didn't think about that I never it never messes with anything I've never had it mess with anything the only thing it doesn't hurt the tube or anything no but the only thing it will do is it'll jack up the magnetism in front of it so if you have like another crt right next to it you kind of have to do them together in a motion bigger motion to make you know gotcha it will mess up the other crt's around it possibly but no those things are those things are great because they like there's so many times but these small ones I think even today I mean you could see I've got a little bit discoloration on one of them that I'd been dealing with in the corner down here and how do you guys did before but then I moved it I'd like I spin this then it'll pick up just moving it sometimes picks up magnetism on some of them I had one that like if I put it in a certain point in my house it would get discolored like there's you got a magnetic it yeah you got a magnetic anomaly in your home that's uh that's maybe that's why you could use a crt for other things like detecting things I always laughed um about what was that horror movie that came out a while ago with John Krasinski the quiet thing as like every and then the aliens like get high frequencies and say oh well then all you have to do is have 100 crt's in your house and turn them on and you'd be okay yeah that was what saved the the family at that movie but oh and I also wanted to pick your brain about um I got out because pork chop express mr addons had shown he so I had I had this one forever like I got this a long long time it's the samson yes 13 inch like gx gaming tv with the it has doors that open on it yeah with speakers uh I just like once I got the toshiba I thought it was so much better and it had component that I just like kind of retired this thing but I did get it out recently and I was curious it actually does look pretty good in retrospect just with composite going into it I've never seen I've never seen that tv in person I just um recently saw where well you know I'm Jose Cruz mm-hmm he rgb modded one of those for oh really a customer in New York and uh I know that he wound up like cutting some of the shell to add a input for it but that was it um oh that would be cool but yeah he yeah because the problem with it is that only have composite or rfm on them yeah which is no big deal for any ass for example mine's not modded yeah I mean my modded one it's always gives me trouble anyway I don't know why but yeah I think you would find this tv sort of a curiosity I would I would like to find one you tear one down yeah it's one of those that you know it's on the list of things that that one have you seen have you seen the space helmet jvc it was I think it was I know which one you're talking about like it's an actual space helmet like a red helmet with a but the almost like motorcycle visor look that's in front of the tube those are pretty crazy I've not seen those very often at all even come up for sale I've never seen one in person yeah yeah they're um so that's that's one that I'd like to see um I said do you much work with pc monitors well sometimes I've actually got fw 900 that I'm about to start restoring uh for a client here soon so that'd be a pretty big one it does work already just needs I'd like refurbishing yeah so I'll be working on that real soon and that's pretty much as as complex as it gets that that will be uh that will be fun the last because the last one I tried to did had a bad tube so it never worked at the end of the day but um I do work on them sometimes it's just depending on what it is um probably just high end ones are the only ones people would bother with mostly imagine yeah and I can't like here's a that's kind of a funny thing I've had to try to transition away from a lot of things um I can't a lot of people want to like try to bring in oh I've got this crt and I don't really know what's wrong with it kind of thing and sometimes those are just it's just too much right before um yeah it's it's it's similar it's similar it's like what point is it worth yeah it's like bringing in 20 hours and it's like bringing in a car to a mechanic that you just found and you're like it doesn't run but I want it to run and you're like okay I'm broken and yeah like okay I don't know what's wrong with this right yeah so um but that kind of stuff it's like you know he's really shouldn't be even probably bringing it so that a lot of times I'll tell people not to do that or not to bring it here because I'm like you don't want to pay me to work on it but yeah then you'd be better off just buying it working that's what I try to you know begin with or or trying to find something yeah that would be better off that works that that's a thing yeah buying things broken that has backfired I mean I have by a lot and it's almost like if you fix it yourself you're not really out anything because it's usually an only worth its weight in shipping or so you know but if you're talking about paying someone to fix it I mean yeah way off better way better off just buying it working to begin with or um yes that's like a lot of times I try to I try to tell people like look the way this works best for everybody is if you uh you know it's like a preventative thing right or it's obvious fails that I know about kind of thing um but it's it's more of hey you got it it's working and you need to kind of make sure it stays that way if it's really important as opposed to yeah buy it broken can you and then try to the tube is broken yeah well that's that's happened recently somebody sent a really high-end multi-format 20 inch bvm in and I turned it on and I could tell right away I was like oh this is done this tube is bad just from what it was doing and then I looked at it and had 150,000 hours on it so I was like yeah and I sent the bad guy and I was like yeah and and I felt bad but it's like yeah just you know take it for parts because I can't find that tube anymore like a multi-format uh big tube that's impossible almost not all the way but close to it you got to just it's like taking an engine it's like taking an engine from another car to put in your car it's basically what you're doing yeah but that's a bummer do um so you've used use that little one did it did it did work some I've never used that little one yeah yeah it it worked I mean it definitely improved that corner and now it's like if you look close you can see there's a tiny bit of discoloring left but I didn't know probably if I just go at it some more maybe it'll be completely cleared up then yeah just gotta watch your like you can use your form um I'm trying to think of the best way to so uh like you start and you move a little bit towards the set in a motion circular motion like getting smaller getting close into it and then you like back away again you know but that circular motion getting larger it's just kind of silly I saw you do it in some video and I was trying to yeah I was thinking about just making a video of me just doing that every clip of me ever doing that just in the uh the worst ones ever were the 40 inch the 40 inch crts I worked on those wouldn't get you couldn't get the the color all the way to match on that no matter what those were ridiculous Mitsubishi we used to make 40 inch consumer crts in the late 90s so do people drive those to you if they're gonna work if you're gonna work on that I don't usually work on stuff that big like I don't unless it's yeah the the I don't like to work on stuff that's bigger than 28 a consumer set like 24 inches is kind of the maximum I can fit almost unless like I have to basically clear out the shop and then I can fit in a 30 plus inch one and work on it hey Dell probably have to get people to help you move things around well I think yeah some ways to move it but it's not yeah it's it's not something you can do forever my buddy has a I think it's a 34 inch XBR 960 okay yeah and he's a sponsored bodybuilder and I still when I go to this house I have to help him get around to the back of this thing you know like it's like 200 250 pounds something like that like it's insane yeah that's kind of a cool set for like it's not good at all for 240p but he has like xbox 360 and xbox and like ps3 on it and those look really good on it I think it's like um it can do some it's um 1080i native right interesting and then it can take as HDMI input on any one yeah I've not messed with those really at all and I don't know um I haven't had a time you need like two three two three people yeah that's the thing is you need a lot uh so what I'm planning on doing is going to like a there's a show I go to in that outside of Nashville regularly and that guy's got like 50 CRTs for his show and I'm like this year I'm going to go and pick out like 10 of them that I never want to like own that are big and I'll do like I've tear down in the convention in a quiet room or something and film it I'd be cool while he has him there as opposed to me trying to find him and look at him because it's that's the that's one of the things I like about what I do is I get like these really high-end cool monitors here that are big and I get to work on them and see them and check them out and then I get to get them out of here just because and then I get to like get the new ones and the new and other different ones so that's always fun to me about it is being able to kind of use them and then move on and check out something else as opposed to just having I always have trouble just saying I just have one that I really want to look at or work on because they're so different but yeah I've got that problem too yeah I'm like lucky I don't have to have them I could just enjoy them for a little bit and then send them back to their client their owners I should have been better about selling them off but now I do actually have space for all of them so I might as well this is like their one last chance here before I'll probably pair down eventually one day but I was like I have this room I'm doing a game room I kind of wanted to do like one or two consoles on each one yeah you know because that's kind of like apparently what I was building up for getting all these things so this is like the first time I've had them all out like this I've been hauling them around forever what's the what you just been I guess you would have if you had them that long yeah I had a storage unit in Illinois and I had a storage unit in Madison and then I had a storage unit when I moved to San Diego each time the unit got smaller and smaller okay got more expensive you know Illinois you could have like a huge storage unit for nothing in San Diego I bet it's pretty expensive it was expensive there yeah we cleared out before I moved west like all of our furniture and I left to my buddy the my two big trinitrons okay I didn't have a ton of stuff left by then but now like this is all that stuff yeah out and has room to breathe I got a futon here the other day for nice yeah gonna have the food time more yeah oh yeah yeah I still got it I'm still got my old school futon I need a new mattress for it though it is not comfortable anymore of course it's like 20 year old futon mattress yeah I had a futon that I really loved and moved and tell you what it's easy to get a futon nowadays yeah I bet it is offer up craigslist or whatever there are a lot of futon so you can get like a pretty nice one for a pretty cheap this guy I got this one from even delivered it here nice showed up and it wouldn't fit in my car I actually had um here's an interesting TV that somebody wants to bring in in July is a B&O yeah and this is one of so this guy who's bringing it in actually worked for B&O in the United States when this TV was made in the early 2000s I think or late 90s one or the other and five I think he said 5,000 of them were shipped over to be sold like in New York City basically and along the eastern areas in northeast and he said but they were no plagued within the first year from it was either bad solder or capacitors and they immediately started failing within the first year and he's like I've got one of them but it's huge and uh and he's like I want to bring it in and I was like okay because I've never seen that right I would love to do that one I've seen pictures of cool B&O TVs like they look uh they're like all black and yeah and they got like a rotating it's it's not a pedestal that you can use a remote and rotate it and uh and really high-end you know their stuff but just not very prevalent in the United States and so he's like yeah this was just one of the models they tried to bring in and they just had a huge failure disaster and I think that's one of the reasons they never came back to the United States or didn't really move much in the market yeah I went to when we were we went I live like an hour from Hollywood so I had done we'd gone to Rodeo Drive famous like yeah I am shopping area and there's a bang and a pain Allison has a storefront there for some reason oh nice but it's all like little consumer you know gadgets like phone stuff and like it's it's nothing at all like what I would think of that you know TVs and big stereos and things like that so they're really like a shadow of what they used to be I didn't even go in there I just kind of looked in there I was like surprised because it's all brands you recognize and then for some reason B&O is there so yeah where did what they're paying a lot for real estate Rodeo Drive is so fucking weird is it and the people there so fucking weird yeah it's weird it's just weird so you are you are you in you're in the San Diego area now is that right I'm an hour north now okay we were in uh we were at Mission Beach in San Diego just awesome spot but we didn't have any space there right in about a year and a half ago and moved out to a house about an hour north of San Diego which puts me kind of an hour from everywhere with no traffic okay oh but there's no traffic yeah if there's no traffic I can get to like the Hollywood studios for tours in like an hour if there is traffic it can be three to four hours so which is more often probably that there's some traffic yeah like Saturday and Sunday are the only days to go into LA okay because you can get in and out safely without hitting one of those well unless something goes wrong but yeah weekdays my wife has a commute every day to UCLA okay three days a week and it's like oh so she can three hours there and no way back yeah for her that's how long it takes yeah oh that's terrible I'm not and if you were going with no traffic it's an hour that's torrenton mates I don't even want to see my wife she works at the university I was telling James Madison University and it's but it's a mile and a half from our house so where so she has like she could walk there just as fast as drive but yeah that was one of the good things I was like well there's really no commute for you here but yeah that's huge that yeah that's that's a commitment that's a lot yeah it's like it's a big deal for her to be there that's why she does it yeah it's a prestigious post you know that's cool and I mean if she gets tenure then we would probably move right well yeah I've got I've the sea I've got my brother lives in northern California but pretty far north near Santa Rosa and then and then I do have a cousin him and his family live in San Diego but I've never I've never been out there to visit him last time I visited him he was he was in Hawaii he actually like turds taught like military no he taught surfing crazy enough okay and he got a couple gigs doing that and like when he was younger I say younger he's younger than me but when he was really younger he was actually on a sponsored like tour for a while to surf and yeah I know that's a big thing yeah so it was I mean he never he never like made enough of a presence or money to really I guess I mean I could say it's hard to say that would have been even more kind of smaller you know smaller pool to survive and I think the only guy that was like anybody knew back then was like Kelly Slater I never heard of and I don't know if anybody like you know that's like kind of a household name in surfing but it was it was something where he got to do all this crazy stuff and then uh yeah he was he was out in Hawaii for a while and then that finally moved back to San Diego I guess probably a decade ago that's cool yeah he loves it out there yeah San Diego is awesome I was there all through lockdown it was a good place to be relatively you know are you normally from there are you from somewhere else well I moved I mean I'm from central Illinois right okay and then I mean I spent like six of the last 12 years in Brazil right I thought you were in Brazil before that I mean we were in Madison Wisconsin for five years so I've been all over the place yeah I moved back from Brazil to San Diego okay and then from San Diego to where I am now so do you mind what what what brought what took you to Brazil if you don't mind me asking uh that's where my wife is from okay and so she had a full scholarship to do her PhD but the stipulation was however many years away where you had to do that back in Brazil okay and actually like three years into that they um like their department was dissolved and so everybody was like cut free from their obligations so that's when we moved back because ah all right she didn't have to do the full five years okay I got you and so then we were just like scrambling and we're like we could move anywhere in the U.S. where would we move and that's we just ended up like finding the cool apartment in San Diego and it was gonna be like a temporary thing but then COVID happened and you know ended up being a few years yeah right well good and you're in uh Nashville well I was in Nashville yeah well just outside of Nashville uh like a suburban area and this this area I'm in now is actually the area I was born in or this is where I was from and uh we moved back here about oh it's almost been two years ago and uh I don't know it's kind of a crazy thing because I just pretty much we just kind of um decided to just try to change it up a little bit and move back here mm-hmm and uh so it's it's been interesting because sometimes you're like gosh should I have moved and then sometimes it's like yeah I'm glad I moved yeah I get into that a lot too and having a house where I had an apartment which is a sweet deal I didn't have to do it do anything everything was taken care of you know yeah things broke and like we were right on the beach but on the other hand it was a clean Xbox you know so it was like it's hard it's a toss-up yeah every time something goes majorly wrong and renting yeah yeah I don't um I don't I'm torn right now because like I don't I had a house for when I was in Nashville we owned the house there for golly I mean we bought it and stayed there for like 14 years right and then sold it and it sold for you know double what I paid for it because I'd been there so long and it was coming out in a good market but then now I've I've like looking at market where I'm at there's there's such there's no real estate for sale so there's a shortage of inventory right now and the prices are ridiculous like they're higher than ever um like for just here's a good example the house right next door this house I'm living in now you know it's got two floors but the basement is just um half barely finished with 60s legit 60s wood paneling like it's the real deal wood paneling like everybody loves for retro but it's the real old that you could literally poke your hand through if you hit it too hard so the the house right next door to this about the same age but it has been has been updated but like it's it's smaller and it's sold in 2018 on record for $200,000 and they just listed it yesterday and from 2018 to 2023 there they listed it for 369,000 and they're expecting to get over asking on it for like 382 and I'm like how is that crazy that a house doubles in five years pretty much well this bubble has got a pop I mean I hopes sometime it's got a pop it sounds like a bad time to buy yeah it's a bad it is like I I love you sell then you've got a that's what yeah yes that's what I like I'm renting now and um and I just keep calling my banker and I'm like what the heck is I'm like what's going on down there at the bank and he's so nervous that every time I call him he keeps up in the the like interest rate goes up and he'll keep up in my like interest rate for my savings account like I called him today oh nice and I was like what's going on with the savings accounts and he's like oh I'll give you I'll give you an extra half a point and I was like okay it's up to five it's up to five percent keep your money there they got it up to five percent in just savings account right now crazy so I was like yeah but again I'm in this weird situation see this house I'm using I'm in is it's my granddad's old house so that's a cool thing like he built it and um I grew up hanging out in here and uh but by like I just don't I just don't really want to buy it because it's old and I don't want to put a bunch of work into it but it might be worth it but but then I got to buy it like from my family and stuff so right now I'm kind of am happy just renting but it is depressing to go and look at houses this is what you get for $400,000 now and I mean that's over here I imagine and it's double if not triple that in oh yeah that's why we had to get a San Diego like imposter abs yeah that's what drove us out into the boonies yeah I don't know although it's nice here yeah I um I don't know what's going on if we are losing your uh your audio occasionally it's like clipping out I just turned off the second ago yeah somebody mentioned that so yeah it's keeps going in and out I don't know but it's okay I'm I mean I'm in pushing I have a tube microphone speaking of vacuum tubes let me see it's usually like discord somewhere it's probably discord it's probably tired of us for two and a half hours um well like since that's going bad I mean I've got I've got it's it's 11 30 for for me here oh shit yeah well it's just a problem I'm actually really happy I mean this is fun I've had a great time um thank you for coming on with me man I appreciate it yeah thanks for having me absolutely yeah so we'll probably just uh cut it we'll cut it loose here uh thank you everybody for joining us uh definitely go check out smoke monsters channel and make sure that uh follow them on twitter and uh see what we got going on let's see if there's um I definitely would love to have you come back again we can hang out again sometime yeah that'd be great so this is a lot of fun thanks for having me yeah I appreciate it man I really do thank you everybody um again and uh we will see you all next time and uh that's it