 Hey, guess what? It's Monday night again. Again. It comes around every week right about this time Yes, it does 6 p.m. Here on the west coast or the left coast depending on which part of the world you're from best coasts Yeah, man. All right. Anyway, it's time for voiceover body shop and our guest tonight is Jamie Moffitt who's joining us from all right. It's from Bucks County, but it's like Philadelphia It's a burb. Okay I grew up around there, too. It's beautiful there. Yeah, and we're gonna. So he's he's actually British but he lives here in America with the rest of us and We're gonna talk a lot about his career and what it's like being a foreigner here in this country And he also has a couple of podcasts and gives out lots of advice to actors and voice actors And we're gonna talk about that and he's an audio engineer so we can geek out with him Oh man, I can't wait for that part. Yeah, we got some good tech stuff tonight. Yeah a couple stories You guys can dig your teeth into We know somebody that has a mixer face and you know, um some of you may be getting some soon We got a little news story about blue microphones and a little experience with some fancy crazy mic I'll tell you guys about right after this. Yes, so we're gonna talk about what it's supposed to sound like Coming up next on voiceover body shop Two men Twin sons from different mothers with a passion for voiceover recording technology and the desire to make recording easy for voice actors everywhere together in one place George Whidham the home studio engineer to the stars a Virginia tech grad with an unmatched knowledge of all the latest gear and technology in voiceover today Dan Leonard the home studio master a voice actor with over 30 years experience in Broadcasting and recording and a no-holds-barred myth-busting attitude for teaching you how easy it is together To bring you all the latest technology today's voiceover superstars and Leading the discussion on how to make the most of your voiceover business This is voiceover body shop Voiceover body shop is brought to you by voiceover essentials calm home of Harlan Hogan signature products source elements Remote connections made even easier Vio to go go dot com Everything you need to be a successful voiceover artist J. Michael Collins demos award-winning demo production voice actor websites calm Where your voiceover website won't be a pain in the butt and voiceover extra your daily resource for Vio success And now live from their super-secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are George Whidham and Dan Leonard Good evening just for the record. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Whidham and this is voiceover body shop or Vio Bs speaking of which you're taller than me tonight. So I've got a there we go Mike That's about right. You pretty much nailed it. All right Just had to take my vitamin Anyway, we're this is voiceover body shop. We're here every Monday night at 6 p.m. Pacific 9 a.m. Eastern time 9 p.m. Eastern time There may be some people who watch it at 9 a.m. Eastern time going where would that be Singapore or something something like that Somewhere on the other side of the international date line. Yeah Anyway, we're here to talk about voiceover technology and voiceover technique and the voiceover Business mm-hmm and our guest tonight is somebody who knows about all of those things Jamie Muffet will be joining us at the bottom of the hour as we say in the broadcast He is dutifully at the position standing there on zoom looking at us very patiently Knickering like the most prepared guest I've ever seen his studio is even lit. It's beautiful. Oh, it's standing Yes, well, it's hot here in Southern, California. It is currently a 103 degrees outside our clubhouse here in Sherman Oaks Yeah, we sat in the sun at a Dodgers game yesterday Okay, and you know until the sun moved at the bottom of the sixth inning then you're in the shade So beautiful. Yeah, it was but it was my first Dodgers. I actually got it. This is my first Dodgers game button Cool, it was great. It is fun. I have I've had my first Dodgers game It was my last one too, but it was a lot of fun. It was been in quite a while I I I chose something to do something else in the Sun yesterday. Yeah, you destroyed your body essentially Well, I had a little bike wreck on a mountain on Saturday and recovered from that mostly and then on Sunday I rode up another mountain and had another wreck. No flat No wrecked saved you from having either have a wreck or a flat I never have the same on them. I never had them on the same ride Yeah, I either have a wreck or a flat. It's very interesting how it works out So I had I had a little bit of both but I was checking out Big Bear in Lake Arrowhead area And really nice place to escape to for a weekend. It's someone paying you to take this much abuse on your body I'm hoping YouTube may someday start paying me for all this abuse as my channel grows and viewership Can't wait to see one of these accidents in 360. Just kidding about that I'm never gonna make money making videos of mountain biking, but it's a heck of a lot of fun already Well speaking of lots of fun. It's now time for Presents Guess what happens when you physically when you turn on the microphone Do your shoulders tense? Does your mind go on alert to catch errors and what you say and how you say it those are symptoms of Mike fright and you've got to fight it and overcome it, but how Self-confidence is a biggie here Mm-hmm in the Mo Joe Friday video now on voiceover extra voice actor and coach Joe Lesh tells us that Self-confidence is a habit not an attitude and others The more you do something the more confident you become and Joe urges us to experiment to take risks To dare to do things differently Confidence will come when we realize that we can do things and do them. Well Now a second strategy for killing Mike fright is to stop trying to be perfect in an article coming to voiceover extra tomorrow Voiceover pro and coach Paul Strikwada takes us back to the good old days in TV and the show Candid camera Remember that one with its smiling. Gotcha producer Alan Funt Well Paul relates that Funt's earlier project was a radio program called the candid microphone and the idea for that show Actually came from an interview show that Funt did for the US armed forces called the gripe of booth Funt would ask soldiers to talk about things that bothered them and he found that the soldiers talked freely and Spontaneously during a pre-show interview But then they'd climb up when the red light came on with the live mic So Funt tricked them and began recording without a red light It worked and here's the tie-in to you in your voiceover booth Trick your mind into believing that you're talking to a person not a microphone And stop trying to be perfect which causes us causes up to do the tense up Self-confidence and picturing the microphone as a person will go a long way to overcoming Mike fright Check the details and these articles and hundreds more at voiceover extra comm your daily resource for voice over success You know I deal with this every day You know because the mic is there and a lot of times people will get in front of the mic and suddenly They're not them. They're talking like they're a lot louder right or they drop an octave or something like that It's not about your voice. It's about being you and I think that's what our good friend. Mr. Lesh is trying to tell us Yeah, it's a good trick. I mean a lot of being successful. What we do is sort of tricking ourselves into Doing something that we already previously thought we couldn't do right was a lot of mind games involved in success Yes, it's acting kids Acting So what's up with tech this week? Well, I'm checking the chat room to see if they're happy with the way the show sounds I think overall people are pretty cool with that. I'll stand with each show. We make little improvements to the way We do things hopefully this week It's the best yet. We're hoping so let us know if you ever have any thoughts about the production of the show Do send us an email because we all work real hard to make the show a little bit better each week But in the world of actual audio tech a couple things have come across my bow lately one of them is That Townsend labs microphone. You may have heard of it's called the sphere L 22 I did a video or I think Dan and I may have been there together. Yeah, if you remember ma'am Yeah, ma'am. I think it was this is a really revolutionary microphone the idea that the microphone basically is this Neutral microphone that has two capsules many mics do that's not unusual But the microphone is actually stereo that it has two outputs that goes into your Interface at the moment the ears No, yeah, not that was that one. This thing looks like a conventional large diaphragm Mike But it has two outputs and then the software combines those two signals Oh, that's right and lets you do all kinds of crazy stuff So I actually got to dial in the sound of this microphone for somebody Remotely which was really fun because it was almost as though I was physically able to adjust the placement the rotation of the mic The proximity effect of the mic and the pickup pattern. I could do all of this remotely And it's not like I'm physically moving the mic It's all done electronically inside But it was really amazing and we were able to dial in the exact pickup pattern that worked for him It wasn't exactly cardioid. It wasn't figure eight was somewhere in the middle And it was just remarkable technology and on top of all that it also has mic modeling That's nothing new a lot of companies are doing that where you get to make it sound like another guy's mic and You know, I don't have these other mics to like a B But I can tell you that when you switch the mic models you heard distinctly different tonalities to the sound and you don't think about it until you get that opportunity to flip through a little library of mics and Then go, ah, that's the one interesting and for him. It was like this 251 Which is a very expensive mic to go buy in the store to have that in the built-in is really cool Yeah Now this next story about our friends at logitech somehow this one doesn't surprise me did this Did you see it coming or is it just coming but it's like that makes sense I mean they seem to do sort of the same thing. Yeah Well, yeah, so apparently the news is that blue microphones has been acquired by logitech And you know logitech for making webcams probably that's the most well-known thing that they make but they make a ton of Computer accessories mainly PC centric, but you know a lot of it works on Mac, right? What happens next to blue curious to see what happens? Maybe the brand continues on kind of like the way Apple bought beats right beats is still beats Curious to see what happens with them, but you know, it's a new turn for blue Hopefully it's a good thing for the company and we get even cooler better and better price products Well, we'll see as a result. Yeah, and and finally and finally speaking of products finally I'm thinking of products that are coming along the mixer face from sentryns Something that we've known about we've talked about ever since a few of us have contributed to their Indiegogo campaign four and a half years ago. We got our t-shirt. We have our t-shirt Apparently they are starting to trickle out the door and end up in people's mailboxes one of those ended up at Joe Cipriano's He sent me a picture of the unit. So I know it really does exist. It's not just made up, but the the mixer face are for Unit is starting to ship. So if you did contribute to that Indiegogo campaign four and a half years ago You may have probably written it off by now You may be seeing I know a few people that have done that you may start seeing these things Show up in the mail. They may start showing up. So I have a picture of it We might be able to get it on the air later if I can't get it now We'll we'll throw it up later so you can see it in the in the in the in the molecules Yeah, I mean, I mean we we saw it at NAM. We did we saw it at NAM We did a video. So if you guys go back on our YouTube channel check for mixer face VOBS right and you can find a video of that that product. It's it's an interface and it's a recorder, right? It's very small about the size of about the size of a typical smartphone and It's It's a unique form factor. Check it out. Give it a trial if you guys get to have one Let us know what you think we'll hope to have one here in the studio one of these days one of these days So gotta demo that one. That's the latest tech news. Alrighty. Well, we got lots more coming up Jamie Muffin will be joining us in just a little bit But we got some tech stuff to cover because you guys love it and I'd like to announce if you weren't Watching we're gonna be start starting to put out tech talk voiceover body shop tech talk It's more about 12 15 minutes long tops So you guys don't have to spend an hour and a half watching this show even though most of you do It's a highlight reel of like a focus topic. We've spoken about on the show in the past, right? So tune in for that watch for it on YouTube and on our Facebook page and we'll integrate it into our other page So stay tuned. 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All right, we're back here on voiceover body shop tonight I'd like to discuss something that you finally understand the acronym of whistle What it's supposed to sound like Because people are always Overthinking their home studio audio. I think you know when you and I are working with people We start getting these frantic emails from people Asking us I hear this there's this they're here and they're hanging stuff on the radio They're hanging stuff on TV right in a movie theater, right? They're they're obsessive about the quality of their audio and I'm here to tell you kids that it's It's critical But it's like the least of your worries if you do it right up front Which means as we've been saying it's your acoustics, which are most important your mic technique, which is vitally important and Setting proper levels you do all of those things properly You don't have to worry about all that other stuff Not when you're getting started I mean as you go down the road and things you start heating up on the levels of competition or the bigger projects Those things start to fall into place over time. You just start learning more skills, right more ways to edge out the other guys, right? But the thing is is what is it supposed to sound like? I think the better thing to really go over is what it's not supposed to sound like. I mean when we usually see audio problems Like hissing and things like that. It's because people are recording at too low a level You've got you know, let your microphone do what it's supposed to do Which is pick up your voice. You don't pay attention to it like the news stories and but you You want to be able to learn what proper modulation is how to set that sort of thing and then not worry about it if you've if you've covered the bases with your acoustics you're doing it right with your mic and You set your levels, right? It really shouldn't be a problem. Now. What are some of the problems that can crop up? There's exterior noise and how do you deal with that? Well, you've got a Myriad of things that you can do to try and fix exterior noise, but usually it takes heavy material and The one I keep getting yeah, everybody keeps saying is I'm using sound proof foam Is there any such thing as sound proof foam? Goodness gracious. No I always call the analogy I always use is putting a flower in a gun Yeah, that's pretty much that's pretty much what foam is gonna do for you So yeah, avoid that product. Yeah, because it doesn't exist. Well, that's right I mean the foam exists. Yeah, but that's not what it's for right foam is part of that acoustic Thing that we talk about which is rolls that go controls reflection, right? Yeah, I mean it sounds completely dead in this particular room because it's treated Properly we have a variety of foams fabrics insulations All sorts of interesting a cornucopia of materials in this space Jack Daniels out there that he absorbs some of the sound Exactly, it's really and he reflects light, which is even better We're using him to you know make sure that everything is perfect, you know, but But those are the things that people overthink too much, you know, it's like it's gonna be soundproof It has to be reasonably Not transparent from the outside soundproof comes when you start getting booked for jobs where you're being directed and recorded live Right on source connect ISDN That's where you got to have a bit more control over your environment, right until that starts happening that could be three five eight years Who knows it's not that big of a problem. You can pause and wait for the noise to clear, right? And so don't invest in that as I always say you don't Buy great equipment to get work you work to get great equipment Yeah And like you said if people are if you're being hired a lot and someone says you need to have this type of sound That's when you invest in that because they're going to pay you enough to do that hopefully So that's the whole thing about what it's supposed to sound like it's not supposed to sound like you're too close to the mic You're over modulated you've got to learn with those specific things mean and How to fix those sorts of things if you don't know how and if you don't know how there are guys like us They can show you how That's what we do here at the voiceover body shop, but George and I we work under different Monitors and different websites But if you want to work with George and learn how to do it right and get it right from the start or if something breaks I love the t-shirt that says I'm here because you broke something. Yeah Gotta bring that one back on here soon. Where do they go if they wish to speak with you You head over to George the tech comm or if you like short domains George the tech and that's where my Website with menus of all sorts of services that you can find are all right over there Dan also has a website. I do these days. Yes website is home voiceover studio Com where you can you know see all the stuff I do and how I teach I mean, that's one of the things that I really do is I teach I work with people one-on-one show them the individual skills that they need to understand Demonstrate them and make sure that you learn how to do it right and I'll be happy to consult with you and if you're here in the Greater Los Angeles area I might actually come to your very home and sniff around and pet your pets like that It's fun when we get that opportunity. Yeah, it's it's and we don't always do it because usually we're doing it by zoom or something But you know feel free to do that and you can drop off a specimen of your audio my commercial says it's free It's 25 bucks now because I was getting overwhelmed with everybody wanting free analysis of their audio But I you and I know what it's supposed to sound like everybody's like what does it sound like? It takes three seconds for us we know we know what's going if there's a buzz or a hum One we're able to figure out. It's not a buzz. It's not a hum. It's one of these things Yeah, so talk to the people who know what this stuff means and deal with it every day Not on your favorite social media forum where it's like, what's the best? My cable to use Surveys. Oh, yeah, don't do that. Don't do they think we can get through these questions I think so maybe a couple of them. There's at least there's two I want to cover the first one and then the last one from from Jack and yes, but let's talk What does team and ask here? If you have a booth, this is from last week actually How do you do the software record and edit and all that stuff? I have to stand or sit close to the screen and the keyboard in the mouse for audacity or if I have to Okay, also if one does a show using phones and lav mics. Do you have any tips warnings and knowledge? Okay, the second part of that not relevant to what we're doing right first part of that good question How do you control this and be close to the screen and have everything? It's a logistical challenge It's better to have the minimum amount of stuff near the microphone Dan right here in his studio. He has a mic and he has a copy stand That's what he has near his microphone and I know it's hard to To get that that you shouldn't have all that stuff near you But when you're getting started the best thing to do is to have a microphone Right and your script right and that's it near you The rest of that stuff is a major distraction right and a logistical challenge as you're finding out to make all that stuff Work in your space is very difficult right and so the thing is is with the digital interface in your microphone All you need is an xlr cable Going all the way back to your computer, which could be on the other side of your house Yeah, xlr mic cables a good quality cable can be run 100 feet right without any problems So you they're very easy to run the mic to wherever you need to go Right exactly and the thing is is people like well, what about that time when I've got a hit record and go to the booth Record and then go back. What do I do? It's for editing editing my friends edit all that out. Don't worry about it Just take it out. It's it's the great thing about editing. It's what makes our business absolutely possible So t-man Stop worrying about that stuff. Yeah, don't do that. Don't worry about that yet There's certain genres and voiceover where having computer access Becomes more important. Maybe e-learning or certain genres where it's handy But for now just focus on the acting in the script Take that out of the booth right and now it's time Is the camera working there su? It's time for another jack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack. You got a question Jack Why it just so happens that I do all right Yeah Daniel asks So Sennheiser has very kindly loaned me a couple of mics to compare with the 416 the industry standard workhorse and the mics are the 8040 and the 8060 which as you fellas know or the much newer versions of the Sennheiser technology I'd like to share these findings with everybody in the video community But I have a technical question about the best way to do this Hmm, would it make sense for me to record the the the two mics or the three mics if I use the 416 as well flat and Then work from those samples or should I have them expertly eq'd by say Georgia Dan in my recording space to show them off In their finest finery. I'm inclined to do both, but I would like to know what your take is on this question hmm well when we've done like shootouts here and Generally my belief is how does that mic respond to you specifically and without Futsing with it too much if you've set it up right You know like we said in the early part of this segment where you're acoustically right your levels are set right and using proper technique for that specific mic Generally flat to see if it can be adjusted if it needs to make if there's some adjustments need to be made because I think a lot of people Jack, you know what you're talking about though. You know what it's supposed to sound like because you've been hanging around here way too much The fact is is that Most engineers will know what to do with it and you're gonna get a much Pure idea of what that mic does if you do it wrong on processed as long as it's properly modulated Now hardest thing really is consistency of placement from mic to mic and some mics work better at certain distances And as you know with proximity effect Moving a mic an inch or two in or out changes the way the mic sounds so you can really Throw off your impression of one white what white one mic sounds like Compared to another if the placements aren't right. So that's the hardest by far So if you get that right just focus on that try to get the placements consistent the gain consistent Use normalization to try to match the average normalization RMS normalization if you just do peaks They don't quite match That's gonna be the most important thing I wouldn't try to do anything fancy up front on the on any of the mics capture them as they are I would say thank you gentlemen I appreciate that using that marvelous Avalon you have Yeah, whatever the preamp is you can use a real cool high-end preamp, but turn off all the bells and whistles Can keep it flat I was gonna use a high-pass filter though just to get rid of the crunch down the bottom I I tend to do that I mean if I do I'll tell people that this is with a high-pass filter Because some mics are super low-end sensitive Someone might get the mic plug it into their scarlet and go I'm getting all this noise. You didn't get a lot of noise Well, it's good to know that yeah, but um, I yeah since that's how you would normally use the mic probably Then having the high-pass filter on is probably the way to go. I would do it that way absolutely I want to test those two when you go you you you will Dan Anyway, Jamie Muffin is standing by dutifully patiently He's let I say handsomely yes, and he's chomping at the bit So we're gonna get to him in just a couple of minutes stay tuned for that And we'll be right back here on voice over body shop. So don't go away Are you confused about how to set up and maintain a professional quality voiceover studio? No wonder the information out there is mostly Mythology this is the best microphone to use you'll have to have a preamp You need a soundproof booth. This software is the best your audio must be broadcast quality Consult with someone who knows the truth someone who's been there in the trenches doing voiceover for over 30 years Someone with unparalleled experience with voiceover studios who's worked with hundreds of voice actors and designed hundreds of personal studios He knows how to teach and cares about your success in one of the harshest environments known to voiceover your home Dan Leonard the home studio master Separate myth from fact and get a handle on your personal voiceover studio Contact the home studio master at home voiceover studio comm drop off a specimen of your dry audio for a free analysis Okay, so say you've been watching the show you've been paying attention to us You've got a studio that sounds great. You can record on demand. You've dealt with the soundproofing You're probably now ready to take on the big gigs the stuff where you're directed live Where you're being recorded by a studio on the far end live and you need the right tools to do that and Definitely one of the best tools on available for that is source connect made by source elements You can get a demo of this software right now and start playing with it right away If you're on Mac or Windows doesn't matter you can go to source dash elements calm and get a 15-day free trial over there You've probably heard it uses something called an iLock if you've heard of it at all And you don't have to have an actual iLock dongle USB thing to use it You can start using source connect standard right away without the software or without the iLock It's just an account that you sign up for free So give it a try and get yourself ready to take on that next level of work You know it's something the agent you're working with probably wants you to have so go give it a shot source connect is A prose tool and you're probably ready for that if you're watching the spot right now We'll be right back with our friends Jamie and my buddy Dan right after this This is the Latin lover narrator from Jane the Virgin and Connie Mendez and you're enjoying Dan and George on voiceover body shop All right, we're back here on voiceover body shop. Well our guest tonight is Somebody we've been wanting to have on for a while has his own podcast. He's he's a Brit Just an interesting guy all around he lives in southeast Pennsylvania. So I know he's a good guy. That's right exactly well Jamie is a Very interesting guy, so we're gonna ask all sorts of stuff about why he's so interesting and see if he can prove that Welcome to the show Good evening Jamie, how's it going there? Just great so You're a Brit you're not from this this part of the the world you you came from that that big island on the other side of the pond Tell us how you you got a voiceover over there Well, I started out originally as an audio engineer and I had a studio in the UK small studio not anything too fancy and The hours were frankly horrendous And I was just sick of working at night and my wife did a nine-to-five and we never saw each other So I wanted to try something else and That's still involved audio so I thought well, maybe maybe voiceover is a thing and Around about the same time we had the opportunity to move to New York We had a place to stay very very cheaply and so we were like work. Yeah Amazing so we had to jump at that opportunity and I didn't have any connections over there You know, I wanted to do music. That was the plan And so I thought well, maybe I can start this voiceover career and transition it over there Which is essentially what I did. I started out. I had the recording space and the equipment, of course so I put together a horrible demo and Put it up on a pay-to-play site. I'm not going to mention which one and Then I booked a gig fairly quickly. So You know sort of light went off in my brain. I was like this this seems like A career I could get used to so I just carried on from there basically and transitioned out of audio engineering and music and and into voiceover pretty much full-time as as soon as I could and I essentially gave up music at least for now a couple of years ago and Absolutely 100% in voiceover at this point. Yeah, so I in your musician too or Yeah, well kind of I mean I was in bands when I was younger and you know I'd play and you know, I just do it for fun now really but I was always a bit of a studio bunny So, you know, I always was the guy would be recording the band in the bedroom when we were 15 And then that transitioned into working in studios and so the the recording side and the geekery side was always very much a forefront, you know and my Approach to everything. So it was a fairly comfortable transition. Well, that's cool now Being a Brit Hmm, has that has it helped you? Has it hindered you probably both? Tell us, you know, how what what it's been like Yeah, well, I think there's probably a difference between being a Brit in voiceover in the UK and being one in the US or outside of the UK. Yeah, you're just everybody else in the UK, right? Yeah, hopefully So when when I started out, I mean, I started technically in the UK, but I wasn't really working working until I got to America so really My career has been in the US essentially And you know that that has absolutely positives and negatives, you know, you're a niche immediately Whatever you do, you're a niche voice so that has been Helpful actually in a lot of ways with, you know, marketing where to push myself and What areas I can I need to work on and and various things like that, but of course I'm also somewhat in a sort of a limbo state because I'm not in the UK getting UK centric work Like all the other Brits where the main amount of British based work is but at the same time And I'm in America where the vast majority of work is American. So it's it's a small pool of work, but at the same time, there's a Relatively small pool of talent that is going for that work. So it's it's I don't quite know how to compare it because this is all I've known but There are certainly positives and negatives to this. Yeah so What type of work have you been doing? I mean, is it like just jaguar commercials or? What sort of stuff are you doing? Well, honestly already being a niche being British I I figured that I have to be quite flexible and what I do because the majority of work comes You know from different genres of voiceover. So I do a lot of documentary work a fair amount of promo and I have done quite a lot of commercials as well as you know, your regular corporate narrations and net explainer stuff and little bit of e-learning Never really got into audiobooks, but that that kind of stuff, you know anything that they're like We need a Brit for I'll put my throw my hat in the ring Now are you doing things in in Great Britain as well as here in the United States and globally? Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's I do you probably I'd say Around 30 or 40% of my work is is in the UK You know, I'm not gonna compete with the with the voice actors that are on the ground Doing a lot of work in so ho which is where a lot of the commercials a lot of the narrations are centered So they will they have people that are there on the ground to do that but I still do fair amount of I do a Documentary series in the UK like a vet show which has been going for a few years now we've done Like over 50 episodes of that which is really that's a lot of fun. That's really good that's on channel four in the UK and I do TV commercials, you know, they sometimes cast and record them over here Knowing that they're going to be shown in the UK. So it's actually beneficial for me being over here. So yeah, and of course the Industry is global. So these days if you've got an internet connection and you've got a decent home studio You can work pretty much wherever You've done stuff say in India or some of the other major production centers. Yeah, yeah actually funnily enough that that Documentary series that I voice in the UK is actually has produced in Australia strangely So I'm in Philadelphia They're calling into me from Australia and then channel four in the UK listening in sometimes or you know It's a rule like spanning the globe kind of operation. So it's quite funny, but man, how do they schedule that? I'm sure he's the last one to know though. Yeah, right There was a period where I was doing it early in the morning and then For whatever reason I had to do it late at night. There's never at like 11 a.m. No Yeah, so one of the things I'm fascinated about someone who has a British voice is that Brits can do American much better than Americans can do British Why is that and have you ever tried doing an American accent for first off? I Have well the thing is I've lost confidence in it because my wife's American and she always laughs when I That's always that never way. Yeah, that's not a boost of confidence I don't I don't know what we get a lot of American media in the UK. We get a lot of movies and TV shows So maybe that helps But I don't really I've never pitched myself as as an American I was putting that on and marketed myself as being able to do that because I'm in a country where there are Two three hundred million other Americans who would be much more authentic than I would be so I focus on that. I do do regional British so Scottish and and actually Irish as well, which is not in Britain So I I try and offer that flexibility to mm-hmm I'm vouched for the authenticity of it, but I I do book book that you're getting casted then You know, you're authentic enough for whoever who casted you Check Usually indicate that So As an engineer Starting off as an engineer. How do you approach your recording? I mean, you can tell us a little bit what you got in your studio how it's set up a little bit about that, right? well, um, it was actually a transition from music to voiceover because It was it's a whole different. It's a real different ballgame actually and I figured that if you can record a band with a million channels And all this outboard gear. It's just a really easy transition But it is a totally different mindset. It was for me to change over your Really really getting sort of molecular in your analysis of the sound in a way that with music You just stick a mic up and yeah, you do measure things out on what have you but it's a little more slapdash but I Try these days to keep it really really simple and I found I've got a U47 clone which I use which is by gauge precision Instruments is the mic manufacturer and I just plug that into my Apollo and I use the Unison pre one of the Neve I can't remember which one it is and then through a LA to a just for some couple of DBs of of you know Compression and that those are just plug-ins with the with the the Apollo. They're not physical actual boxes No, no all on the way in in the in the in the box so and then in the in the software just a couple of DBs of compression again, maybe I'm a bit naughty. I use a limiter Maybe just to bring it up to level if I need it, but otherwise it's just super super simple really I've got a I Did have a 416 and I tried the NTG 3 and I I'm marginally I don't know. It doesn't make sense for other people, but for me. I slightly preferred my voice on the NTG 3 Yeah, it's the road Mike. Yeah, yeah, they're often compared they look similar in shape But they definitely have a a different sound. There's too much That's right, and I think it was the room more than my voice actually I found the the room that I'm I was recording in The NTG 3 complemented it slightly better. Yeah, and So, you know, I'll switch up between those two because they're quite different characteristics for more primary things Of course, I use the NTG 3 and For everything else the the u47s has a sort of softer Characteristic so I find that More narration stuff. It's it's a little less jarring No as as an engineer though, you've got the critical ear to actually hear that difference Whereas most producers or anybody who's listening to auditions is probably listening on, you know, the speakers on their laptop And so they're not going to really tell the subtle difference, but as an engineer you're able to do that And maybe even it's psychosomatic I see a you know pet the sort of long thin shaped microphone in front of me and it gives me confidence that it's going to sound better I maybe it does maybe it doesn't but I'm yeah I absolutely agree that the probably not many people are going to notice the difference I probably never need to change from the 47 or vice versa in reality, but I just you know Maybe it's just mental that gives me this extra confidence or something, you know coming from a a super Anal geeky background probably means that it's more important to me than to other people, you know And even then the mics that I have aren't like $15,000 they're right, but you wouldn't want to use any in your house anyway Yeah, some studios the space you record in is that a a larger space is it a closet? What kind of a space do you record in? Well, I record in two places. I have my home studio and where I am right now is my Not home studio It's sort of it's in a sort of industrial Complex in the middle of nowhere. We're just there's a big forest just behind that wall and we're literally in the middle of nowhere and I've got a Separated off booth, which is just a front room basically Which I've treated and I've got a panel up and obviously acoustic panels around and and so it's a room basically and it took me a long time to tweak the The diffusion and the absorption to get that natural sound But at home I'm in a sort of closet fairly large ish closet and I have to say I'm finding it hard to beat that sound And the closet doesn't have anything particularly fancy in it It's got a lot of our like household junk and if you know treatment and I just When we first moved in I just brought stuff in arranged it in a sort of rough pattern And then would record a bit and I had this sort of test recording that I had in my previous place And I was just trying to match it by bringing stuff in moving stuff around and and sort of playing Until I got the sound that I liked And then I just can't move anything now And you've gotten no complaints, which is the most important thing if you're just joining us our guest is Jamie Moffatt Who's joining us from around Philadelphia? Joining us by zoom tonight, and we're talking about You know his stuff as a British voice actor here in the United States and And some other stuff that we want to bring up right now if you've got a question for him Jack Daniel is sitting in the Jack Daniel memorial chair over there working on the The the chat room and he will relay those questions to us, so please make sure that you Get involved in the conversation and ask a question of mr. Muffin Anyway, one of the things you're doing one of the interesting things that we want to talk about is this Podcast that you're doing now We've been talking a lot about podcasts the last couple of weeks because it's a tsunami It's really taking off and great opportunity for voice actors to really practice the idea of talking Natural like we talked about with our news story tonight about Mike fright forget the mics there and just talk about what it is You want to talk about but your podcast is called podcast the VO school Yep, tell us about it and what urged you to to take up that type of a hobby Well, I've been I am somewhat of an early adopter when it came to podcasting I was listening to podcast ten plus years ago, and I've always really liked what you're talking about the conversational natural You know it sounds like friends talking and you're just listening in you know non-scripted stuff. Yeah, exactly Yeah, there's a subject But you can really get in to the weeds and just sort of have a sort of free flowing discussion a bit like what you do on the show and so I've always I've always loved it and the reason I mean the reason I started the VO school podcast particularly was I Suppose a sort of negative reason. I was Essentially getting a little fed up hearing about all these predatory coaches that were swarming the industry with pretty poor information and while I'm perfectly aware that there are some there are Outlets like yours be obs and you know people other podcasts and Terry Daniel puts out a lot a lot of really great information and you know, there's there's Outlets there to learn this stuff. I Wanted to create something that was almost a syllabus, you know, it started at point a and ended at point z or z and We follow a different subject each episode and take you through in a somewhat systematic way and In so doing essentially undermining these Coaches who were just looking to make a quick buck out of people who don't know any better because they're just starting out so I wanted to Put out this information that is Actually already out there in a lot of places but hasn't necessarily been coalesced in a way that you can use to give yourself a very broad understanding and When you have that knowledge your Not so easily taken in by a sales patter or something like that where you could potentially You know pay for something that doesn't give you good value. So that was my motivation initially for starting it So so is this a good place to go for folks who are wanting to research and focus on finding new coaches and training for voiceover That's kind of the yeah Podcasting world you found yourself Well, we did devote an episode specifically to coaching Yeah, and everyone that I have on I mean not everyone but a lot of the people that I have on do coaching themselves So, you know as you know, you you don't tend to have a coach that covers everything because most coaches specialize in certain genres So if you're looking to Maybe there are coaches specifically that are just starting out coaches or there are people that specialize in promo or commercial or you know e-learning whatever and by code by Finding the people that I I personally think are Really the top of what they what they teach and what they know I hope that's a good jumping-off point for people to go. Well, that that's maybe a person that I can reach out to and work with Because you know the subjects that we cover we we talk about them for an hour ish but you know And there's a lot more to go down into there's a lot more of a you know There's a rabbit hole that you can delve down into and you would need that one-to-one coaching to really Learn this stuff. So I I hope it's a good jumping-off point for people and that was my intention. I certainly don't want to Undermine Legitimate coaches and I don't want to and I know that they don't feel like I'm giving away the keys to them Right There's a lot of the what not necessarily all of the how Yeah, there's some great people on them if you've had on Dave Finoy most recently. Yeah Fantastic, I mean, he's just the guy knows his stuff. Yeah, really Allison Fried and Roger Leo party. Yeah, great balance We've gotten to have Roger on a couple times and man, what a wealth of knowledge that he is Yeah thing is Roger doesn't really believe in coaching, which is fascinating This thing actually because we get Allison very much Has I believe she has about four or five any one time. So that was this that was actually a school Yeah, to have that yin and yang, you know, yin and yang rather And that's what I try and have to two people on each episode two guests at least on each episode Sometimes it's just one because that's just how it works out But I do try and present that that there are many ways to skin a cat with this industry You know that what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for someone else and it's every one's journey is unique So yeah, well, I had the honor of being on your podcast a couple weeks ago with Melissa Exelberth and I can't remember who the other person was Because yes, yes, yes, yes, and it was fun I mean, I mean, I've been on a lot of podcast George and I have done a lot of you know joint interviews and Individually and stuff and it's very it was very interesting and how you do that Because everybody recorded at their own end Yeah, so you're as the audio engineer that you are you're able to just take all that and This might be helpful actually We have an audience member is new to the show who has been asking questions about you know How do you record? interviews with multiple people at remote locations and You just answer if we had gotten to it. I would have mentioned but yeah It's really the best way today still is to have everybody record themselves and we call them double-enders Right send them in so that's what you just out the way you do it. Yeah, I do that I ask everyone to record themselves just in case we get any glitches, but I do record the call as So we'll do it over IP detail or source connect whichever works out being the one that everyone's comfortable with and The great thing with the twin is that you can set up those virtual channels to have your the sort of bus of everything coming out into your DAW I Just got the yeah, this the smaller one the twin so I don't have millions of outputs and what have you But I record everything so I've got a good quality Baseline and nine times out of ten I'll use that to sync everything up It has happened where someone's computer glitched out halfway through and you know I've had to sort of cut and paste my recording with theirs and you know, hopefully it's not obvious, but You know, it's nice to have that redundancy You know that I'm recording myself and the call and then everyone else is recording Themselves as well. So we don't have any tech disasters, which we haven't so far Well, it helps when you're doing a podcast with people who are primarily voice actors. Yeah, they know how to they already know How to do that. Yeah, it's definitely harder when your guests are non-technical non voice actors don't have studios, right? That's a little bit harder. Yeah, it's no fun doing interviews with people who are experts in pickling Canning and things like that I don't think a Bob. What's his name? Uh, you'll house or you'll house her. You got to find out who that goes Yeah, but yeah, that's uh, yeah, but I think I used to do that when I did a talk show It would be people talking about canning and what they know about you know and take recipes and stuff like that But generally we would bring them into the studio, which helped a whole lot Once again, we're talking with Jamie Moffitt and we're talking about his podcast Now you've got another podcast that you do and and maybe people are familiar with backstage Tell us a little bit about what the work you do with them because that cover is not just voice acting. That's like all acting, right? yeah, um a Few years ago. Well, I've been writing articles on and off for them for a while and I realized You know, this was actually prior to the VA school podcast We started doing this one. It's called in the envelope But I pitched it I pitched them an idea for a podcast about a year maybe coming up to two years actually two years ago and Because they didn't have a podcast which is kind of surprising actually for backstage I figured, you know, I thought they must have had one on when I found out they didn't I was like, okay. Well, maybe maybe we can do something with that So I pitched in the idea and then they sort of ruminated on that for a couple of months and came back to me and said okay, we like to do a podcast with you, but we want to do it about award shows and I Was a little hmm. Okay. I Watch reward shows, you know, just like anyone does but I'm it's not a you know over that passion of mine but actually it was sort of a it was quite a smart idea and Essentially what we're doing is we interview Award nominees in the run-up to the awards shows. So they're in the campaigning process so they're wanting to get on the podcast, you know, so we've managed to get some incredible guests on our podcast and essentially the awards show Component is a is a bit of a vehicle just to get them on the show and talk about acting and but really The whole thrust of each episode is really their process They're talking to backstage listeners who are actors So it's actors talking to actors and you know, anyone that's been in this profession knows that Acting is is It's a really I don't know how to put it but it's it's a It's an individual but it's also a shared kind of an experience, you know And I feel like they really connect particularly with this audience because they feel like they are one of them and I've learned a huge amount about the acting process and applied things from television and Film actors and I've applied a lot of what they've talked about in voiceover and Whereas VO school is very specific to voiceover and learning skills that will help you as a voice actor. I Honestly believe that the in the envelope is actually Advanced my voice over career more than anything because I've really delved into the acting process and That that was a surprise to me, you know, but yeah, we've we've interviewed some really pretty cool people all right once again, we're talking with Jamie Muffet and We're gonna talk about other stuff because lots of our audience has questions for you as well So we'll get to those right after these incredibly important messages. Don't go away The all-new iPhone Reserve your Disney World season past now through all the runny noses three in the morning coughs An all-new American crime story tonight on FX this week only it's pasta fest at all of garden heart rate prime blood pressure Perfect. 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Yeah, no just British and I do I can Soften my teas a bit like I just said when I said British But yeah, I mean I suppose the the mid-Atlantic thing I get sometimes the sort of phrase Asia Accent but generally speaking. I'm just Brit man Yeah, man, but man. Yes, that's it. The people don't realize that a mid-Atlantic accent isn't really a real accent It's an affectation. It's an affectation that Catherine Hepburn would use Or Kerry Grant or something like that and it's you know, I use it occasionally It's like you want it need a newsreel voice I'm not coming down to the finish line, you know, that sort of thing Anyway, Divock says the next question. Yes, Jamie first. How would you define your regular? British accent speaking of the last question and How about some tips for differentiating UK regional accent say Yorkshire versus Manchester? Compared with Scottish and Welsh How'd you like those really bad? Um Well, I suppose my accent is considered RP which is received pronunciation. Is that what it's called? That sounds right. Yeah That's just second guessing myself there It's the sort of BBC at London. This is where I grew up London. So that's the accent that I have naturally I mean in terms of tips I Would just consume as much of that accent as you can, you know on you know, I Do a fair amount of Scottish accents Actually is a fair amount of that work out there So before I do a session, I will just you know, watch clips of brave Whatever it is, you know to get myself in the zone And I'll just watch the videos on or whatever it whoever it is that I'm you know Intempting to do and then just just I'll watch the video and say the line back, you know So I'm a you know for three or four seconds behind the action and it just gets me in that sort of mindset And then almost method approach to Doing that, you know I try to talk as little as possible to whoever's directing me in my natural voice if I'm gonna be in a serious accent And try and stay in that mindset and and I actually find picturing someone so I Did a game where I was having to do a sort of Gonna tough no on an accent and it was sort of a Sean Bean. So I had his Visually I was picturing him and when I would drift off and it would just help me to get back get back into that accent I know some women that picture him when they drift off Sorry bad joke, I had to look up received pronunciation on Wikipedia because I really want to like what the heck is that mean and Wikipedia says is an accent of standard English in the United Kingdom and is defined in the concise Oxford English Dictionary as quote the standard accent of English as spoken in the south of England Although it can be heard from native speakers throughout England and Wales So there you have it Makes total sense to me. So if you're from southern England, you have a proper received pronunciation Rp is like the Queen's accent. That's like very very Flurry and very clip. Oh, why can't the English teach their children how to speak? Anyway, what's next the devox had a secondary Yes, another one also from your experience as an engineer or director What are some things that you think VO actors should know or do you have some pet peeves that you deal with as a director? I don't really direct people so much, but Whenever I've had audio sent to me from other other people a lot of the time people will over process. I think I Think keep it simple like I do myself Practice what I preach or most of the time less is more in terms of processing You tell them no, do you have a stack? Can you turn that off? Yeah No, I've not got anything. I was like you realize the Adobe audition has got, you know 14 plugins That's why it's simple I would say yeah Paul Stefano asks do you work? Do you work enough in Philly? If not, do you have designs on moving to New York or LA? Well, I was in New York for about Well, how long was that seven or eight years and we moved out to this area about a year and a half ago So I'm sort of slowly finding my feet I have done some sessions in Philly as it wasn't a market I really Really sort of launched myself into while I was in New York I've certainly made more inroads now. I have recorded at Baker Sound, which is a fantastic studio in Philadelphia It's not really an agent town not really even the Union town because I'm Union talent either as well. So that's somewhat of a restriction, but Most of my work actually is either done from home or I go into New York to do it It's actually only about you know quick train from Hamilton is is just over an hour So it's actually not hard to get into New York for me. So I still I'm still in New York every week working on one thing or another You know, yeah, yeah, I know Pennsylvania. It's you know geologic geologically Geographically that's a great spot where you are because you do have access to both of those city centers And but yeah Philly I love I have a soft spot for Philadelphia lived there for a while I grew up outside of Philadelphia But yeah, it's still a small town kind of you know, it's a it's a pretty big city But it's it's you know, we when we grew up there. We used to go to the city Yeah, and that was New York. We would drive up to New York. I had the car We'd go to the we'd go to the city. So I know I know that feels There's a second part to his question. This is this apparently is an insider thing Have you been to sesame place? Sesame place is literally about two minutes around the corner from there Explain what that is. It's like a theme park based around Sesame Street So they're they were like, I don't know. I've never been but like Elmer rides If you do go bring a friend with a child, otherwise, you may not come off too well walking around Place by yourself Oh man, good one Paul. Yes. Alrighty tea man tea man Wondering about the inverse of you in America in other words an American and so ho or what you what do you know about it? Is is is it insular difficult, etc? Is that makes sense? Man, I hope so. I mean, I do know they're a you know, of course American talent in the UK and they do quite well I mean, there's there's clearly a market for Americans doing your Stereotypical movie trailer voice maybe or or something like that, you know, we'll call for an American or I Mean examples escape me at this very moment in time But there is almost definitely a market for being an American voice talent in the UK And being on the ground there I'm sure it's a similar situation to me that you know, of course you're Then in the opposite limbo state where most of the American work is here You're giving up a lot of that But then at the same time you're in a small pool of Americans in the UK To do to put yourself forward for those American jobs on the ground. So I'm sure that's the case. Yeah I do know a promo voice actor Howard Parker. I mean, he's been doing work for the British market For a long time. I mean, he's here in the US Right doing American accent work for the British market You know, that's the thing like if you're an American acts accented voice You can still obviously be getting casted by London-based or UK-based productions here in the States So I think living there would that would definitely be a challenge, you know You'd really have to somehow differentiate yourself. Oh, yeah, you know One last question when we talked about this before with all the You know the education that you're doing the fact that you are, you know You have like two podcasts and you're talking about coaching What have you learned as I like to say when I was a teacher you teach best that what you need to learn most What have you really learned from the experience of really talking to a lot of different people and about about our business Well, we've got we also one thing I do also is we have a meet-up group in in their studio every month the Gardner Street Philly, which is a sort of satellite branch of Tim Friedlander's LA work workout. Cool. So we have a real mixture of people that come here people that are just starting out or have been in the industry for a long time and You know, it's really interesting that everyone has really interesting feedback when we go into the booth and whether it's me Whether it's other people whether it's people who are just starting out or people who You know, like I say, I've been doing it a long time You know, everyone's perspective, you know, they're not always giving, you know industry standard feedback But their perspective is is really useful So I try and pick up as much as I can from everyone that will hear what I do or Or that I'll be interacting with and there's usually some little nugget of something in there The one thing I took away from the in the envelope podcast, which has really really helped me is being more bold when I audition for projects and Taking a bit of a chance and not necessarily strictly following the specs because You know, when someone's casting a project um, they're going to be getting 10s, maybe even hundreds of auditions back and I just nowadays I imagine that person scrolling through listening to the same Audition coming back and and they're they're just trying to hear something that they're just waiting should I say for For something that's going to just spark their interest. So Whereas I was in the past maybe quite conservative with how I auditioned I've these days are much more bold and I definitely have seen my auditions convert better Since I employed that um, sometimes it means you you are wildly off But uh overall You know statistically. I think that's actually a better approach It seems like like a riskier approach But actually I think it's actually helped me statistically to improve the amount of bookings that I get by being You know riskier. Yeah, so bold and risky means, you know, not trying to follow all of the Really ridiculous sometimes completely contradictory Direction That's on the script right and just saying, you know, I think this is maybe what they're really looking for or Just going with your gut, right? This is what I think it should sound like and see what happens I mean some sometimes that's not great advice. Sometimes if you're if your baseline is you're 110 percent You know, you you then the advice is the opposite You want to pull back and and you know every there is no real I mean, that's that's something I talk about in the podcast is that there is no standard advice Right because yeah me but my personal Thing that I took was was to be more bold because I would are on the side of conservative, you know in terms of my delivery, so that that is something and and that was uh from People that are oscar winners and emmy winners and people like that that I really valued their their Um perspective on not that they were giving it to me personally, but I just listening to their interviews That really helped me So I would say that Excellent. Well, jamie. Thanks so much for joining us tonight. You know, it's a lot later out there in the east coast And uh, we appreciate you taking the time and uh sharing your your experience with us Oh, it's been a real pleasure. Thank you for having me on. All right. Look forward to seeing you next time See you at sesame place soon. Yeah. Yeah. I'll see you there on the elmo ride. 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That's voice over x t r a dot com And we're back here on voiceover body shop, you know, one of the great things about doing this show is that we do it live Our 331st live edition you're keeping track. I am keeping track for a very specific reason That we have we have we have audience members tonight now jack's here most of the time But if you turn the case there is dan knocktrab Who I pronounced right this time maybe knocktrab I actually watched the last episode that you were on to review how to say your name Oh Man thanks for coming over. Yeah. Oh, hey, what are you in sound form? Uh, do you see electric light orchestra? Nice. That was it Is that the the greek or the bold? It was at the forum uh saturday and sunday night and my wife's favorite band And uh, so we packed up the kids and did the grizzled thing and drove down friday saturday morning and then uh went to the show Well, yeah that too But uh, awesome. Yeah. Well, thanks for joining us tonight. Oh, thanks for having me. Thanks already Okay, well, let's see. Who's on next on our show next week in this very studio sitting in our interview studio set The one and only Bob bergen no kidding. Bob bergen will be here A big influential guy with the union And super knowledgeable super knowledgeable about that really but but also a great animation voice A guy that's been doing animation for his whole career and a great teacher too and a very good teacher at that So you don't want to miss that next week as well Uh, the following week another good friend of ours paul pape Will be with us. He's been with us before we've talked about the union We've talked about his own production company and the stuff that he's been doing You know as an actor, but also pushing himself to the next level in production and stuff We go way back or so. Yeah Uh, then on august 27th in our studio three live In the studio guests. Uh, we've got uh from the voice caster and burbank Catherine haran She's casting and coaching and you know, they do casting over at the voice caster and She does coaching there as well. Fantastic. You know, you just drive by there And you see everybody with their scripts waiting to audition in front of the voice caster Not a really big town here in la So but we're going to be off on labor day and then we're going to be off of rosh Hashanah. So that's two days off Two weeks off. We'll be off the first two weeks. I know when to book my cruise. That's right. Go for it You're going on a cruise. No get off that bike for crying If it takes you to mountain biking areas and then on september 17th cat crescent, it will be with us Uh, hey, we got the mixer face photo. We got to show people We do throw that there it is. There you go That's what the mixer face looks like folks that we were talking about earlier The device made by centrance a long and storied history This product, but uh, we'll find out from joe at some point maybe what he thinks of it Yes And thinking and speaking of people donating to things. Who are our donators of the week? That's right Um, just got one in from I'm looking at these names. I'm going am I having deja vu because it's the same top three names each week Tracy h reynolds, andrew kaufman And eric erigoni These names come up on on the regular. So we really appreciate Folks that are contributing to the show. You can do one offs. You can subscribe for a buck a month Whatever makes you feel good You know, we we really appreciate it. Alrighty Uh Again, george and i are the guys that know home voiceover studios. Everybody else is an expert in their own studio If you want to work with george, where do they go? Now you go over to george the tech dot com And if you want to work with dan you go to home voiceover studio dot com and uh, we'll help you out Uh, let's see what else is going on here again if you want to be in our actual audience You can do that if you're going to be in the greater los angeles ariel like mr. Noctrabe is tonight And joining us here in our studio, uh, all you have to do is write to the guys at v o b s dot tv and make the the uh the What do you call it? See when you get old you forget these things put the items audience Put audience in the subject please subject that helps the email become noticeable for what it is You're referring to thank you very much in your email. Don't send emails with no subject Please please it's like that's like vertical video. I mean God don't do that. All right. Anyway, if you're here, we do it live monday night 6 p.m. And we'd love to have you here also show us your booths Wait, who's this guy? Uh, remember? I don't remember who the picture have a name in the jpeg or And when you send your pictures and make sure your name is in the picture We'll make sure we read it as to who's sending the picture. We've had this one for actually a little while We've used this one before because we like it. We don't know is it? Ray, thanks ray Anyway sound bite right there. Yes. Yeah, but it's got the nice waveform in here This is a whole place. I like it that it shows the waveform, but it also shows just literally Your classic moving blankets on the walls. Yes. I love it. Yes Alrighty, uh, let's see, uh, we're a podcast Oh, that's probably listening many of you are listening to this as the podcast and you're not seeing all the stuff So if you do want to go check it out go over to v obs dot tv and you can watch reruns of the show there It's all on youtube Um, and we're also on facebook. We put the shows up there as well. Whatever floats your boat Um, you can find us in both places, but the show is actually live on monday nights at 6 right? It's fun to watch it live, but you know, we all know that you have bowling league monday night or You're acting class going on. Are you going to a concert or something like that on a monday night? Uh, and uh, so we have the show all Episodes since we started as east west audio body shop Are there on youtube for you to enjoy and as a podcast So we really appreciate that but we would not be able to do this show without the help of our amazing sponsors Like harlan hogan's voiceover essentials and voiceover extra Uh Source elements vo to go go voice actor websites dot com and j michael collins demos Alrighty well, we need to thank of course the dan and marcy lennard foundation for the betterment of live webcasting Uh, also our producer kathryn kerrden who gets us great guests like jamie moffitt tonight Never do you have to like wow these all these amazing people in this business and we get to talk to them on this show Uh jack daniel on the chat room duty and on youtube and our technical director sumer leno doing a fantastic Job this evening. She's still here We must be doing something right Uh jack the goalie and dan Sutton on the show notes, which you can access When the show gets posted on youtube and of course lee pinney who i think is actually watching tonight He might have might have seen his name in the chat room. So lee Thanks for being lee pinney. Yes. We really appreciate that Uh, all righty. Well, that's gonna do it for us this week. Make sure you tune in every monday night Six p.m. Here in the pacific time zone nine p.m. Out on the east coast See other way around now, okay And that's gonna do it for us tonight. We're here to help you So make sure you're here to have us help you and remember if it sounds good. It is good I'm dan Leonard. I'm george wittem. And this is voiceover body shop or vo Yes, have a great week. Everybody. We'll see you next monday night. Bye