 Good afternoon and welcome back to the touchline on Y25 for my name is Maxwell Waseek. Of course, cut us off the technology with speaking to men of passion for football from the comfort of their households talking to us with regards to the agenda they have for Kenyan football. Both have declared interest to contest for football Kenyan federation presidency. Of course, I'm with Fredo Penda, the big man himself alongside Tiras, Wajaki resdengel panelist to talk about what is happening in matters football internationally. But just before that, let's link up with Wanbon Faso Seno, football writer, best in Kisuma and Sef Muti. Of course, he's here in Nairobi. He's former Kenyan international son. I can see you good to have you on board one more time. We were talking to us about the state of Kenyan football. We've seen in recent weeks a game of musical chairs, overpayment of Adela Amruch, 100 million Kenyan shillings. Ministry of Sports, of course, representing government is saying that won't pay while football Kenyan federation insisting that they don't have money to pay and even if a ban comes their way, so be it. What's the way forward, man? I think it's very unfortunate because we are finding ourselves in a situation whereby maybe we are going to lose out on a very good platform to showcase our talent. I think the federation is also finding themselves in a very tight spot because they don't have a choice what to pay or we miss out on clean there. I think it's going to work up to the first. To me, I think the right thing to do now and the best interest of the game is to sit down with those who matter. The stakeholders, the government included, we must explain to them, actually this should now go beyond even the federation, we should explain to them that we have a chance here for our youth to showcase their talents and it should not go to waste because we really don't know what may transpire after the pooling and maybe a few talents will be spotted in the best interest of the country and in the best interest of the youth and the talents that we have in so far. I think we should agree as a country, as a government, as football stakeholders that we must not miss the opportunity and to me I think the government is the way out now because if you look at the money from the federation, I think they just received some 500,000 from FIFA that can only pay up to 50 million of whatever Amruchi is asking about which is about 109 million. So even if we take part of that just to make sure that we don't miss then now the government can also come and support and see how we move out of this. But moving forward, I think a mistook like this one should never ever be repeated and in my case it seems that the contracts that we give our national coaches are flexibly enough and it also leaves us in a position of strength so that in case of a dispute then there is a way it can't be something else without the federation in carrying such a process. Saif Mutie, we've seen the pronouncement from the football Kenya federation that Gormaya now are the duly crowned champions after suspension of the league indefinitely due to coronavirus pandemic. In case you get elected the president of the Kenyan FA Will you work consultatively with other stakeholders because we've seen KPL in a rejoinder saying that they were not consulted and FKF has been a one-man show? Yes, what I can say if I can comment about that KPL have a contract with FKF and I think their contract is running out in September 2020. Nick Mwendo should respect all the contents therein in that contract. It is KPL who have been mandated to run the KPL and it is them via the CEO Jaco Guta who are supposed to make any pronouncement about that league. So what has happened is Nick Mwendo has circumvented the law, Nick Mwendo has broken the law, Nick Mwendo has broken the ethics, he is not the one who is supposed to say who has won the league or who has not won. It is up to the KPL CEO to say whether the league should continue or not continue, whether this team has won this has not won, whether this team is going for a litigation or not going for a litigation. If I am FKF president I will respect all the rules and regulations. If I have any contract with any entity I will honor it, I mean this is not rocket science, this is something very simple unless somebody is playing politics. So I am telling Mr Nick Mwendo the incumbent, please respect the rules and regulations, respect the contracts. If he wants to take over the running of the league wait until September 2020 when the contract expires and if you want to run the league don't renew that contract and then run the league yourself. Thank you very much. Osano, I am a passionate youth who loves football. What's your agenda for the young people in this country? Who's love for football is unwavering because you know football revolves around youth and they form an integral part as far as success and development of soka. Of course in 2020 Nick had told us that you know God willing Kenya can qualify to play in FIFA World Cup in Qatar. In case that happens maybe we won't have the likes of Wanyama, the likes of Wanga, the likes of you know Brian Young Mandela playing for the national team we shall have you know the upcoming talent sported from machinani from the grassroot. How do you see going about you know youth football as a young man? Before I answer that I just want to say something about this tag of war between KPL and FKF. I think it has been going on for far too long as it's really not healthy for our football and according to me I think it should be sorted out structurally in my thinking and what I believe is that FKF should somehow have a foothold in APL maybe as CETO in the governing council of or something. It happens even in England where the AFA has got shared in the community. As it is now it looks like we are having two separate football entities that are trying to flex their muscles and in every situation you always find themselves taking different positions. I think that's not healthy for our football and it is time that we align how we operate right from generation to all the other worlds that are emerging in the country. About youth football I think we need to increase funding. I want to come to youth football. We need to go down there and put money where I would say we manufacture talent so that we can be able to produce more. I think the Federation should be able to partner with the school so that they make sure that the talents that are coming there can be monitored, they can be tracked so that in a progressive way they can price through the needs and reach according to what they can be professional. Secondly, I think it's now time for us to say that APL clubs should have youth teams and to me I think it's long overdue for us now to have youth teams. Uganda is implementing the same, Ethiopia is implementing, why not us? We should have youth teams running, augmenting whatever is going on at the rest of the world. Good to hear from you. So, say, I know you are a professional and alumni of Stereboi Center, someone who went to university. We've had the public outcry that also football management has to be left to professionals. Nick Mwendo is a professional himself, he's an IT professional. He also attended learning, defying all odds, football at some point, we've branded it as a sport that is played by those people who are academically schooled. How do you think your professional input for the success of the Federation in case you get elected? Thank you very much. Before I answer that, let me say something very important to add on what Osano said. If everybody remembers very well, Victor Wanyama, he has not played in our league in Kenya. He went from school, direct to Belgium, to Celtic, to Tottenham. What am I trying to say? No, still what I'm trying to say is this, he did not play in any local league. He did not play. So what I'm trying to say is this, people are saying if we are locked out from Qatar, we are locked out from this, that then talent will be wasted. No, talent will not be wasted. As the FKF president, I will have partnership programs, exchange programs with football academies all over the world whereby coaches will be coming here in Kenya to look for those talents and our coaches will be going abroad for training and it will not be that one must be a player at the premium so that they can get a chance to go outside. Even a primary school kid, even a secondary school kid will have the chance of going and playing football abroad as a profession. Okay, now let me come back to what you said about management. There is something people don't really mention. You might be very qualified, you might be a businessman like Nick Wendwa, you might have the degrees and the PhDs are the masters, you might be a professor, but however qualified you are, if you don't carry the ethics with you, ethics are what really matters. Ethics are what hold foundations, foundations are held with ethics. I may be the best economist but if I like ethics, conduct will be coming, transparency and accountability medula o blanata missing corruption then everything that I have, everything that I launch, all the papers, all the qualifications, all the accolades, all the trophies will mean nothing. What is lacking in our management of football is not professionalism, what is lacking is lack of ethics. Those ethics, if we bring them into management, I am telling you our football will go very, very far and I say Futimonuvi is bringing, other than that experience that I have in management, I am bringing ethics in it, I am bringing transparency and accountability and integrity. When I come inside that office of FKF, members of the fourth state, you will have direct line to question our management 24-7. All the auditors who want to come and audit, whether it is the ethics and corruption, whether it is the DCI, whether it is a private entity, our books will be open to you to edit and again I say all that money that comes from FKF is not supposed to go to the current expenditure to pay salaries and to run clubs. No, no, that money is supposed to be used for development and that money should be put down at the grass roots. I will look for money from corporate companies, partners and even advertisement so that I can run the league and I will bring a new structure. Like Osano said, clubs should be having academies, mine is a bit different from that. I will bring in new structures whereby we will have in every ward we will have at least three strong teams which FKF will be funding through me and from there every constituency will have one very very strong team which now can come and play at the county level. We want to make sure that this talent is noticed at a very tender age and it is followed, Lachand and it is taken for and I will also utilize IT. We utilize IT because how do we follow up? How do we follow up? Every ward will make sure there is a representative of FKF and in the schools, colleges and universities we will make sure that the head teachers of the meaning of the teacher of sports, head of sports, he will be having access to internet, access to our email, access to our website whereby they can be sending to us information about any special talent they have spotted immediately we will be referring our coaches to that school, college or university to follow up on that talent we will be keeping perhaps when you keep terms for a player since childhood we will not arise a case whereby somebody is going to play in Europe or say they are 20 years old but the truth may be they are 50 years old. No, we are saying that you will have a cheating so fair enough. Robert Bonfa Sosano of course a lot of women are also watching the show and we've seen Nick Muendwa picking the long serving football administrator Doris Petra as his running mate. I know integration is key for the success maybe in terms of women's football because we have to be gender sensitive. Women's football has also been active to some extent not as active as this male dominated affair. How do you see going about ensuring that you know the predicament tribulations that has been facing women soka and women footballers are also abolished? Maybe do you seek having a running mate who is a woman? Osano? Osike, does she say something to my answer you? I think let's be very clear and really if you look at the money coming from FIFA to the federations under the FIFA forward in four years you are entitled to $6 million from FIFA but every year a federation gets $1 million and that's for administrative purposes. What's remaining there out of the four millions every year for a federation? We have two million that you can access and you can use it for development. So you only have two million dollars in four years to develop and I've seen some federations they build hotels, some training pitches. I also categorically say that this money from FIFA is not enough and if you are ambitious program to develop football in the country and you want to rely only on the funding from FIFA or the government then I don't think you're being truthful and I don't think that you're I think you're going to get into office there and really get shocked and realize that it's not what I've been thinking. The money is not even enough to do the daily because if you want to run a federation which is professional then to get elected president of the football Kenya federation in the upcoming elections of course we winding up time not on our side just in a few seconds both Osano and Mutye you are patting short Mutye you are patting short in a few seconds what are you promising football lovers in the country? Mutye and Bonfa Osano are still with us we're gonna take a short break and of course we will be up next with the fans on fan favorite segments don't go I stay tuned it's the touchline from one to three every saturday but you know football Kenya federation elections is the talk of the town I don't know whether I'm good to go to proceed with this gentleman so that we can wind up or I can take short break I stand guided by Fadil still I can hear Fadil is telling me that we still have a technical hitch that is being addressed let's take a short break we will be back next