 So, let's move on to our topic four, we're... Yeah, I know we're way over time, it's okay. Oh well, it's okay. It's just gonna be an extra long cast this week. So, topic four, we'll probably whiz through these last two topics a bit, but it's still stuff I feel like is important we get to. And, it's basically, for those who haven't heard, if you follow us or any Nintendo site, you've probably heard of it, but there is a Castlevania animated series that's like an R rated series based on Castlevania III, coming to Netflix at some point this year, with a season two already paid for and coming out next year. And most Netflix shows, most, not all, but most Netflix shows and animated series are usually really, really good, like HBO level quality. Oh, definitely. Yeah, I haven't really phoned much for of actual Netflix shows that I don't like. Yeah, like there's some like the ranch. Watched. I think the ranch is hilarious, but it also feels more like sitcom TV. Yeah. It doesn't feel like HBO. Yeah. But then you have things like House of Cards, HBO, man. Right. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. Stranger things. Yeah. That feels like an HBO quality show. So like, anyway, so Netflix generally has high quality stuff, more of it than not. So, Nintendo, there was a rumor way back about Nintendo doing a Zelda live action series of Netflix ended up not coming true or not being a thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think I actually remember. So, it ended up not being true, but this brings the question to my mind is that Nintendo owns a lot of big IP. They used to do cartoons back in the 80s. Yes, that they did. It was the Captain Nintendo thing. There was Super Mario show. Zelda had a cartoon series run for a season. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, granted, all this stuff was interlinked, so like, it kind of all got muddled together, but even Sonic had itself. Now, Sonic Boom is a thing. Rabbids has a show or had a show. I don't know if it's still, reruns around all the time. Yeah, and Nickelodeon, yeah. Don't know if new episodes are. Well, Sonic used to be its own. So it's kind of one of those. There's a lot of talk about, you know, what should Nintendo do for a live action show? Should it be Metroid? Should it be Zelda? I'm like, okay, that's great. Well, why don't we talk more animated series? Because outside of like Metroid, which visually, especially in like Metroid Prime, leans more towards like a realistic kind of world, most of Nintendo's IP fits more into, I don't want to say cartoon, but it fits more into an animated style than me. Yeah. And that's not to knock the Super Mario Bros. movie. Love that movie. Love that movie. He might be one of the few. I know it's like, I consider one of the worst movies ever made. I don't care, like, I love it. I still love it. It's been a long time since I've seen that. Smiled when I was a kid, I still smile today. I do that stupid happy meal toy bomb-om thing, like. Anyways, and you got the big spring boots or the boots or whatever. Oh my God. Sorry, I still think it's a fantastic movie. I don't know why. And you're gonna get flamed. All the reasons that you guys love Mario is not why you're gonna love that movie. But anyways, I'm just beaming over here. I love that movie so much. So I want to know like, should Nintendo seriously consider doing a bunch of animated shows for their IP? Like they've tried before and obviously didn't go well. Cause it got canceled. Right. But like, should they seriously do it? Like, well, this is 2017 now, man. Should they do that? Keep in mind, they are now in, they now have a partnership with Universal and they're doing theme parks. Right, yes. I think it's definitely something to be explored. But you have to make sure the quality is there. If you're not gonna put your heart and soul into it, don't. Just don't even bother. But if you can get the right people to do it and actually put your heart and soul into it, I think it could be something that will work really well for them. Yeah. What I don't want it to be is what Sesame Street is on HBO. It's not good. Wait, Sesame Street's on HBO? Yeah, they bought it. They own it. Interesting. It's not good. No, I can only imagine. And you're like, and we just got out with like, HBO makes high quality stuff. They do. Yeah. Like, the Game of Thrones is amazing. I don't really consider HBO much of a kid's network. No, no, they do a family channel. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Okay. Usually it's just like a group of like family, like high quality family movies. Right. But I don't know if they think a lot of TV, most of TV series are more towards just adults. But Sesame Street was like, oh, we have a family channel. Let's get a big, big name family show. Sesame Street died out. We'll buy all the rights to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's not good. Whatever writers, whatever they have going on, like all the puppets and stuff are great. It's just not a good show. It is not even remotely close as good as it used to be. Yeah. And this is on HBO. People are paying extra per month to have access to it. So it's like, it's not good. And that's the only concern is obviously you can't release something that's not good. And Netflix has that same thing going for them where the fact that this Castlevania series is on Netflix means there's a higher chance than not that it's going to be good. Right. But there's also worries about it, like the way the guy worded it, that not as a saying that it's rated R, I think that's just a way of saying that we intend this for an adult audience. And there's probably going to be a little bit of violence in it. Like if you go to the children part of Netflix, this show isn't going to be there. It's not for them. It's for adults. Like very adult. But like there's some wording he put in there that sounds really immature. And like he mentioned that like, oh, this is basically like the Game of Thrones of Animated series. And it's just like, do not put, like you just basically said, this is literally the best show running on TV right now. We're doing an animated type version of it. Yeah. That could be, that could put yourself in a hole. Don't put yourself on those expectations. Very quickly. Like now it's like no one thinks that's going to happen. Everyone just thought it was cool. And now you're like, now you have to live up to something that is impossible. Breath of the Wild has created a lot of expectations, but it created it for itself. It didn't put it upon itself. Now with all the delays, you can say that's added to some of it. But at the end of the day, it's proving why this, before we even seen anything, not even like a splash page for it. It was just like a like a footnote and Netflix is like report out there about upcoming. Yeah. What's coming up? Footnote. So for the guy, one of the main guys behind it to be like, oh, it's like, it's like the Game of Thrones. It's like, ah dude, you do not name drop. You do not name drop. One of the best shows currently running and say that this is just as good, but it's animated like. Yeah, no. You let the people do that. Yeah. Like Game of Thrones, Game of Thrones was a worry going in the season one. Didn't know if it was going to be big. The people from the books were hyped about it, but how many book adaptations have actually gone? Right. No, definitely. Like you thought it had a higher chance because it was HBO, just like you think this has a higher chance because it's Netflix, but it's also a pretty good chance they're going to screw it all up. Like Legend of the Seeker, I loved it, but it was not as good as the Sword of Truth books. And it was different. And the ways that it was different, I liked because it reminded me of the old Xena and Hercules shows. Okay, yep, yep. It was a lot like that which is not what the books were like. So it's like, Yeah. I understand why it didn't stay popular because it wasn't as good as the books. But, You gotta kind of keep the same feel as the books. But it wasn't trying to be like the books. So like, I was okay with it. I was okay with it. It wasn't like what Aragon the movie did compared to Aragon the book. Aragon the movie was terrible. Yeah, that's, yeah. So, there's already gonna be weird expectations for something based on a really old game in a 16-bit era. Yeah. Like there's already gonna be some funky expectations because we don't know what to think about it. Right. And it's always kind of like me now where with basically any movie that I go to, I always try to temper anything that I go into. I always try to temper my expectations because I know there's a definite possibility that I come out absolutely hitting it. Like I've been doing that with the Star Wars movies. Right, exactly. Like Disney took over. Disney has gotten this track record of doing some excellent stuff lately, especially with like teaming up with Marvel and like all like, They've done a lot of really good stuff. But there's also things like Iron Man 3. There's also things like Pirates of the Caribbean. I'm not even Pirates of the Caribbean 3. I thought Pirates of the Caribbean 3 just ran too long. But I think, you know, if they had cut it up a bit better, it could have been really good. But you know, Dead Man's Chest and all these other ones after weren't good. And now they have a new Pirates movie coming out. I know I'm going to a day one because I love the whole Jack Sparrow character. But my expectations are like... Right, exactly, yeah, yeah. But their recent work with it has not been good. And so... But at the same time, then they do excellent things like Moana just came out. Right. So it's like the track record is there. It could be awesome. It could not be good. So it's like, it's better. I think they're going to things with low expectations and high expectations. And even like my friend Chris, he went and seen Rogue One before I did. And I know he absolutely loved it. But at the same point in time, he did not want to get my hopes up. So he told me it was good. It was good. And that's all he wanted to leave it at. And I went into it and we saw it. And it was phenomenal. And after I came out thinking the same way he did, that's when he opened up and said it. Because he did not want to set my expectations so high that it could not meet it. And I would be disappointed with it. Yeah. And that's a good way to approach anything. So like Nintendo, we want them obviously to explore this a little bit, at least. Oh, definitely. It doesn't hurt to try. Try to get another Super Mario show out or whatever. Try to get an animated Zelda show out there or whatever. Try to take your IPs and turn them into shows. Like you did some shorts with Pikmin on the 3DS. People can go down and enjoy it. And they were good. Would that stuff be good in a half hour segment or something? Maybe, I don't know. Yeah. But it's like just make, I'm sorry, make sure as someone who might desire this thing, temper your expectations. I want this Castlevania thing to be amazing. But I don't expect it to be. Right. Especially now that he, like part of me, he just named our Game of Thrones. Oh, right. Really expected. Now I expect it to be garbage. That's what I think. Because when you set the bar at that level, I know it can't hit that level. This is an animated series for starters. You can compare it to something like this. And this is based on a book, not a game. You can't compare it. But he's doing it anyway. So it's like, that just tells me that they have the bad, they have the wrong attitude going with this thing, which tells me this thing's gonna be bad. So now I, it did have the proper effect, I guess, to make me dehype for it. Right. At the same time, that's not the intent of that. No, definitely not. That kind of would be like, if you think Game of Thrones is awesome, just wait till you see this. Yeah. It's like, Yeah. Don't put my bar at that level. I'm refusing to let my hype get that high. So I want Nintendo to a good look and do it. I can't even begin to give them ideas on how to approach it. You know, like, I thought the rabbits show as whole. Oh yeah, definitely. But it's still failed. Yeah. Overall. So Nintendo's trying to expand their IP beyond video games, which is why they got the universal theme parks going. Mobile. Wait, well. Which is why they're releasing, it's still games that they're releasing stuff on mobile devices. They have the quality of life stuff, which we haven't heard about for a while. They had some sleep monitor thing that we last heard they were working on. You know, and Nintendo's always been caring about our health. You know, we fit. Or, you know, you're playing a 3DS game and every now and then it says, hey, you've been playing for a while, why don't you put it down and go outside? Right, yeah. Go outside. Go outside. Or just take your, Take your switch with you. Take your switch with you. Game as you go on a walk. Yeah. Yeah. Mix messaging, Nintendo. Right. No, I think they just, they should continue to look into it. I don't know what they should do. I don't, I want, like, I would love a live action Zelda. I would love an animated one. I would love an animated, I've already run it like Mario. I would love to see Metroid. I would love to see so many of the series brought to life in this way, but done in a respectful manner. And I don't think Nintendo themselves can do it. And I think that's part of the problem. I think Miyamoto, he directed the Pikmin shorts. I think they're really good at that short stuff that has no voice. Yeah. Yeah. But like when we're talking about shows with talking characters, Nintendo needs to hook up with the right studio. Whether that's Netflix or HBO or whoever. Right, right. They need to get, like, if they're gonna do it, I want them to be serious. Right. I don't want them to be like, well, we're doing this in-house and Miyamoto who has never written an in-depth story in his life is doing all of the text for all the characters. And it's just like, okay, Nintendo, your games, outside of a select few like Fire Emblem, they generally are not that story-driven. Right. So like, TV shows have to have a little bit of story and if it's Mario, it's probably gonna be a little comedic. You need to have the right writers for that. Oh, definitely. I think as long as they can connect with the right people, it can work. Just don't come out and be like, yeah, you guys remember SpongeBob? This is the new SpongeBob but with Mario. Don't do that. Yeah, I know. Even if you cringe and you hate SpongeBob, it's undeniable that it worked. Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, it's still running. It's still getting new episodes. So it's like 15 years. South Park is still running. These shows still run. They found their niche. Nintendo find your niche and hit it. Yep. And you need to find the right people to do it. And go into it full-heartedly because you can't go into it half-hearted and have it be successful. I at least, that's my view on it. Yeah, exactly. So that's kind of it. I don't want us to be like telling Nintendo what to do in this case until we hear something that hints towards them, maybe considering it. And they have had like drop hints. Oh, you know, maybe we'll do something but... That's the only way. I want to be like, come on, say, hey, we're going to do something. And then it's worth us, I think, having a conversation about what we'd like to see them do. Right. But I just want to bring that up just because, I mean, the Castlevania things just came out of the left. It's definitely an interesting topic though, too. Unexpected. Like Castlevania? Yeah. That's the game in an anime series? Why not Contra? Well, this, I'm sorry. Anyways.