 And that's what it meant by, I and my father are one, that you know that who you are is a beautiful creation of God, for faith and eternal change. So, these gatherings go on company, because I've been with a friend who, even though I've been doing them for like 13 years, every question seems like a first question, and I don't ever really have a sense of the past. So it's all new, brand new, and it's like a child, like a sense of wonder. So it doesn't matter what culture I go through, or what country I'm in, or whatever, you know, smile is a universal language, and there's so much that's conveyed just, you know, sharing the joy and the presence of God that really doesn't have anything to do with, you know, the oligarchs and stuff like that. So, here I am, and you can be welcome, thank you. I'm Lenny Kostopoulos, you have a microphone. So, Ken, do you have a video taken? You have a sound, so if you have a question or comments, let Lenny know if you believe in microphone. First person. No, I believe in microphone. I believe in microphone. There we go. Was there a point in Lenny's other acts? Was there a point you were going to be writing was you made a close commitment to God? A time when you could distinguish that you made a big shift in quick trying you to identify with your conceptual self and make a close commitment to God. Yeah, I think the one which just seemed to be around 1991 when, I mean, I had a little course and was getting all kinds of mystical experiences and everything, but I pretty much, the voice was just saying that in order to remain constantly happy, I would have to be completely disidentified from everything in this world and completely identified with God. And that's the way I would be defenseless and be joyful and happy no matter what the situation. So that would not identify with a person of day or any particular group. In the end, not even to identify with a course of miracles. And I guess beautiful lessons around that over the years where I was at a bookstore and I said, can I see your course of miracles book? It was all worn out. And you can read the gold letters worn out with it. And she just took it and it was, reminded me of he did something when we came into the movie where he had gone out of his house, and he just put some of his entire powers into the movie. And then he ended up flying it off. He was sitting by the end of my chair. She was gone. She was gone. She was out the door, and she was gone. She was gone by the end of the 60th night. She put her back in my hand and she was just testing. I was in the basement for the last minute. I had to leave the house from everything. Because if you're living on an affiliate of anything in this world, I mean, you're not even a defendant. I mean, you set up your kind of leaders about the world, whatever. And you're a junior to God, and it is beautiful to stay blind to you. You're really identified with your source and not identified with the things in this world. Because all defensiveness means that you're hiding some kind of illusion and concept that you think has to be defended or protected. And in the end what you realize is your true self, your spirit, your Christ self that I mean to call, doesn't mean anything else. It's just me, it's true that just it is, and it's so beautiful when you begin to open up and identify with that, because then you lose all the sense of defensiveness. So I was around 191 when I first started playing my game. And by the way, I remember early Gary and Florida, I was in a small building, and everyone was acting there with little dolls, sparklers, watching us all. But Gary and I lived down in the road, there was a small building that was kind of sitting in front of me, and I just began to talk, or 15 seconds in the talk, so I was still in front of him, and I kind of went, and she was still sounding to the back, you know, here we go again, let's play an intellectual role, I think you know what I mean, I don't know, but I think we're still preparing for this kind of wash, and then at the end of it, there was nothing to address for, I don't know, just continued on with the talk, because you know, this kind of like, it just becomes so joyous, and all of a sudden, I was like, I don't know, I just left the brain, or the mail, or anything like that, or anything like that, and I was like, okay, you know, I'm going to manage it, and she was like, you can show her, Gary, you can take notes, if you don't look him and he to anything, because if it's like, if you don't take anything permanently, what you find is that, everyone's a role, I mean, I say everyone's sweet, because when you don't get any judgment, that's where everyone comes, so alive and sweet, because you've got nothing to defend, and you're not trying to promote anything, or whatever it is. So, an answer to your question, and it was probably about finding anyone who pushed our credit. Okay, go on, push it. Alright, so, any suggestions? How one would arrive at that place, because I have a problem with forgiveness, and judgment, and criticism, and many reasons to go, and I struggle with them a lot, and I can see that you really achieved them, and it went over you, it's been, you know, it's been something else. And so, do you have any...