 So on our agenda tights, we've got our agenda review. So we'll review and approve minutes at PM. Feel free to speak up throughout the meetings. Hoping at the end, we're also going to be talking about including committee recruitment. But if there is anything specific for public comment, please, please do so. Then we'll do our kind of check in learning round table, anything to share. Report backs from related city committee meetings. So we've got the ones that I could remember that police. I mean, budget update on the school. SRO group. Things like that. And then just kind of diving into the creative discourse work. So there's a quick fundraising check in. And then just really like outreach check in and work plan check in, including the like updating the focus group contacts and then. Also this conversation about other committees that are doing community outreach work. Because as I think. There's someone noted last time we met. There's just a lot of groups that are looking to do surveys coming up. And so just if we can compile that list and see how we can, you know, best work together. And then just, if there's any next steps of the COVID response and then other business. Any changes to that agenda? In addition, it's cool. Can I get a motion to approve the agenda from Michael. I'll make that motion. Except I write them. Right. The agenda. That's the minute. Okay. All right. Yes. I'll make that motion. Jeremy, do you want a second? Yeah. Second. Thanks. All in favor. Hi. All right. Can I have a question about that? And another committee that I'm on. I think Cameron, you said that we don't actually have to make a motion to approve the agenda. Is that right? Sure you don't. I think you can just. Yeah, that's good. And then you move on. Okay. 99% sure. Lauren, are you, are you the 1%? You can do that, right? It's fine. I think you can kind of say like, without objection, we'll consider the agenda approved and just move on. Okay. I'd like you to pause and say like. In case there is an objection. Awesome. Thank you guys. All right. And then moving on to Michael's notes. Amazing work as per usual, Michael. I feel like these are particularly helpful with. Massive report back we got from capital area and neighborhoods. Sustainable on failure last time. So thank you so much. A lot of help from Cameron's notes too. So this is a cooperative effort here. Thank you, Cameron. Yes. Credit credit. So the question I have is on page two, the bottom of page two, you mentioned three. That we got three grants. I was able to get. And we didn't. And you couldn't remember what the third one was. Ben Jerry's Vermont community fund. And what's the third one. I'm so sorry. I missed that. I'm sorry. One minute. Looking my inbox. Was it the awesome. Vermont community foundation. Did you say that one? Yeah. Ben and Jerry's. Oh, and, um, The city is what I had marked out. That's not a grant. That's why I had three. I apologize. Nope. So just, just to thank you. So, and we haven't heard back from awesome foundation with the, that Julia applied to. Okay. All right. Well, I'll make that change. Thank you. Someone. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes I've amended. Second. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Any opposed. Motion passes. Awesome. Any public comment. Pam, putting you on the spot. Then you're muted, but I think you're saying that. Yes. I don't have any public comment. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Feel free to jump in. Um, and so we wanted to, you know, return to having this space of a learning round table. Just to be able to share our, our own learnings and growings and resources and, um, uh, things that are happening with the group. So I know we did the check in at the beginning, but, um, If anyone has anything else I'd like to share. We'll kind of do a go, like, don't feel like you have to share something, but if you want to, that would be, um, lovely. And maybe to pick on Lauren about what this, this history of, of, um, you know, white supremacy in America, that you had yesterday, if, you know, if there's anything, like things like that. So if anyone has anything to share. Yeah, I can. Do T-Rex have two fingers or three. This is a really important question. Six year olds wondering. Um, I'm not sure, buddy. Three. Okay. We don't know. Well, I think we could go look it up. Um, So. Yeah. So this was, um, Yeah. So, yeah, so this was, um, with a group called the center for whole communities that I know, at least Shayna's worked with, um, who is working with my, my work. Um, and so this guy, uh, Delma, she don't know what his last name is, who has studied kind of African-American history was, gave a really interesting presentation and just like the history of like, like, when kind of the evolution of how like race was created as a concept and why and how it was like broad and used as a, you know, lever to divide people like in various ways. And then just how that's manifested and like, just like the structures put in place. And to some, to some degree, I thought it was, I mean, it was very interesting to be listening to it, um, because so much of it was so relevant to what was happening. Um, but it was also interesting just like how kind of, like, such a process of creating it, which in some ways gives me hope of like, you know, just like that it's not inevitable. It was like, it was a human-made creation. Like, and like, so there were steps taken to do it that were very deliberate. And so we could very deliberately take different steps to undo it. So in some, you know, I have some like optimism as well as, you know, it's a really horrifying history. Um, I'll try to see if I don't think that is something that I got that's shareable, but I know there are a couple of readings and I'd be happy to, you know, those around that he had shared. Thanks so much, Lauren. What has the group done for these in the past? We just started again for the first time last meeting, um, since going online. Um, when we were doing these in person, we just usually like pair up and chat for a while about, yeah, it was usually like a podcast that you listened to or a book that you read or something that you'd been digging in on, um, to be able to share and also to like add to take each other. Yeah. So I would just add to, um, what Lauren just shared, um, and not knowing the specific kind of details of the content. Um, it made me think of something that was really helpful for me and starting to learn and understand the kind of history of whiteness and how race was created. Like you said, Lauren, um, it's this misogyny may have come across it before it's, I think it was like a nine part or 10 part, um, um, podcast series called seeing whites. Um, and I'll put the, I just found it again. So I'll put the link here in the chat, um, from this great nonprofit documentary group out of, I think a university of North Carolina affiliated. Um, and just a really in depth, um, dive into, you know, kind of how we've arrived at this notion of race, particularly around as it pertains to white supremacy. Um, and our own history as a country. Um, so if you're, if you're looking for more of that kind of learning and you've got, and you like podcasts and you've got, you know, time to spend, um, it's really well produced. Um, it's a great set up with it. Um, it's a great set up with it. Um, the kind of main documentarian is a white guy. Um, and he partners with his colleague and friend. Um, his name is Chandra. And he's a, an African American, uh, professor or artist. Um, so there's really like good, kind of honest processing and conversation as they kind of review that kind of the more detailed history. Um, they speak with a lot of different scholars and folks about that. Um, and I expect, you know, I'm about ready to go back and listen to it again. Um, because it's been about a year and a half or so since I've heard it. And I think there's, there's things I missed and things I need to hear again. So, uh, might be worthwhile. Thanks so much. Um, Lalitha, not Lalitha. Well, I think it was Pellin actually shared. Um, Uh, Implicit bias test. And I really recommend that everyone does that. Does what? It was a implicit bias test. So it was like one of those tests. Yeah. I thought you were saying tech. Oh, no. That would be very bizarre. Um, no, it's part, it was a university's ongoing study. And so you become part of their study group. Kind of. It's just an online test. Um, Yeah. That's all. I mean, that's all I'm gonna, it was nice to. I have, uh, since June been taking my anti racist education pretty seriously. So. A lot of, a lot of listening. Um, I'm reading, uh, cast right now, which is. Very sobering. Really hard to, it's taking me a long time to get through it because it's. It's, yeah. So much that I didn't know about our Jim Crow laws. And I think. Yeah, it's been very, very sobering for me. But one of the things that I did back in June was, um, I changed up my social media feed. So that I am following now a lot of. And that's really made a difference for me. You know, I just. Get used to seeing black and in our white state black and brown people in my social media feed. All the time from people that I, you know, admire. The Obamas and Oprah. Van Jones. People that we see all the time, but also people that I was not familiar with before and black, black activists and, um, it's, it's gotten me so used to seeing that in my, in my regular, every time I look at my phone that I recently was looking for a comedy on some movie platform. And when all of the movies came up and you could see all the recommendations and they were all white, it looked really, really strange to me. And, um, so that's been like one of the first baby step things that I did back in June. And it's, it's really made a difference for me. You know, in a way that I hadn't really noticed until I noticed it. So I recommend that a lot. Every chance I get. Great idea. Thanks. And also just wanting to check in just reckoning. I think we often say for months, you know, one of the way to states in the union and just recognizing to that there's a lot of people of color who live here and there's a lot of people of color. So I'm turning that. Cool. Um, Is the group ever taken on a reading together? Or like a podcast or a book or anything of that nature? We did do that when Julia was the facilitator and when we were in person. I think in talking with Julia about it in particular, I haven't actually talked to anyone else about it, but of, um, it just feels a little goofy to do that. When like Orca is recording, you know, and going on and just being able to like really dig, dig deep and be vulnerable and personal. Um, and so that's kind of, um, why we're thinking of sharing this way, but, um, if folks are would be interested in, in digging in more deeply on, you know, a couple of readings or another idea that we discussed was like, having maybe someone like present, uh, about some sort of history or information or, you know, uh, you know, particularly like Montpelier, you know, racial, social, economic justice history, um, things like that. Um, if, if there's any other ideas of kind of how to grow and learn together as a committee would love to hear that. I didn't necessarily mean that we have to share a lot more. Just that we have, uh, get on the same plane. Yeah. We have a shared context and, um, we don't, don't have to get a lot more vulnerable, but, um, it would just be, yeah. So I don't, it was just a thing that I have been thinking about since the last time I was with you all. Um, you know, I'm just, I'm just a little bit of a little bit of a, something, something you said, um, sparked something for me, which was perhaps to further our learning, but also more specifically applied to our, our work. What would it look like to invite, um, You know, BIPOC folks from either as individuals or from organizations understand, you know, issues that are going on. They may not always be specific to Montpellier because we're small, but, you know, certainly central Vermont. There's a lot going on. And I wonder if having the chance to learn more together about some of those issues could be useful in helping us determine what we want to do or help us connect people together. So that sounded interesting to me. Are you are you suggesting that y'all ask people of color to join your meeting here to talk about their experiences as people of color? Because I think that's incredibly damaging. No, no, no. I mean, there's a lot of work happening, I think, along the lines of racial justice and economic justice by different groups. And I wonder if folks doing that work would have something would find it useful to share with us what's going on. That's my that's my point. Yeah, I think that's what I'm thinking that's a lot about why we're doing this project with this creative discourses is to build these relationships. And if you're in, you know, having conversations with some of the leaders of these groups or these, you know, movements, if there are folks who are, you know, interested in wanting to share about their work to the committee, let's invite them in. Michael, were you going to say something, too? I was going to say that I think with the the workshops, the small groups discussions starting as soon as we start getting feedback from that, then I think we'll have opportunities to think about, well, who would we like to hear from specifically or what kinds of issues are emerging that we should be talking about. So I think we're sort of on the cusp of getting the information that we want through our project. And I think at the time being sort of monitoring that and, you know, planning for what comes for the next groups that we haven't yet assembled is going to take is going to take all the time we have. Yeah, and that's also what I recognize that we've been on the cusp for a while. So yeah, I just record, yeah, feeling that urgency and and here's where we are. Well, with that, should I move us a line to talk about the report back from city committees before diving into our creative discourse work? Police, budget, schools, maybe I'll hand it over to Lauren first to talk about the school resource officer meeting. I think it was a meeting again on the 12th is next time. Have you met since we talked last or is there anything to report? I haven't. I'm not on the that. I'm sorry. Was an update and Cameron, you might remember better than me. We had gotten an update at council from Jay Erickson, who's one of the counselors who's the council rep on it. And I think he had said, you know, there's no decisions yet. It's still the process is still ongoing. So last I knew it was like there's still in the midst of the process, but finding their work with creative discourse positives and like that that was really helpful. So that was that was essentially the extent of what I remember at least was like no decisions, but active conversations and like they have sent you a well, they sent a survey, correct? Yeah, I don't know what's on the I don't know what the questions were, but I'm assuming they were created with creative discourses assistance to just sort of get people's general feelings, the political leaders general feelings about it. Survey said to whom? Council, city council. Oh, just to council. Okay. Yeah, I think they also did some other larger survey. I only saw the part that went to council. For that, you know, did they target specific groups or was it just a random selection? Do we know what that was? I have no idea. I apologize. No, don't apologize. I think it was. I think it was a separate survey for the general public versus council for sure, I think. And Michael, maybe about the police review committee? Has there been a meeting last time we talked or? No, the next meeting is the 11th. And there's been nothing, nothing since the last time we met, I think. We did get word that Keisha will join that meeting. We'll participate in the meeting. And so that'll give us on that committee, that'll give us the opportunity to find out what they have in mind, how many questions they would, that will give us for, you know, for use in each of the, in each of the groups. I was looking over the list of groups. And I think that I see that there is, there is one just devoted to the Montpelier police department. So that's number three. And so I'm not sure, you know, what more we're going to do with that, but we'll find out. I'll find out on the 11th and I'll report back. Thanks. And then I'm just trying to see if I can pull the link, but I'm feeling technologically challenged right now. But just also to share that the Montpelier police, the state chief police have released various statements condemning the violence in DC and have suspended, the Bennington police department suspended a police officer based on like Facebook posts and things like that. So there's just a lot of kind of response and movement happening after the insurrection yesterday in DC. So just just sharing that too. Anything else? Various committees? I just mentioned briefly, we did the city budget. There was a meeting last night and the tool was raised and we did a kind of, we walked through the questions and it was hard to do the entire budget like that. I think it's much better for like a more specific line item, but people were thinking about it and it was nice to see like trying to grapple with the questions raised. So that was great to see. And there was like one item that had been brought to council for consideration and we kind of thought through implications of that and who had benefited and brought back. So thanks again to this crew for coming up with that and just, you know, a different and more, I think, structured way of thinking through those questions was really helpful. So there is, yeah, so there's a meeting next week and then the week after. So if there's any, you know, if any of you want to check out the budget and there's still the chance to more meetings before it goes to the voters. Thanks. I had a meeting scheduled so I wasn't going to be able to come and then the meeting cancelled because of everything happening and I completely spaced the intent that there was anything else happening in the world yesterday. I'm sure it was not the only one. Cool. Okay, creative discourses work. Just quick fundraising check-in. There's a bunch of grants due coming up that are on, I think, mostly on my plate and working with Pellan. I'm one. And Michael, I think there was just one that opened the flag for you but I'm not remembering what it was. The A.J. Musty Memorial Fund Memorial Institute. Is that you? The what? A.J. Musty Memorial? Yes, then they're not doing this stuff now. They're focusing on other things and they're also, I don't know, I have my notes somewhere but they're not answering inquiries. Shaq, what the heck? Because out of my calendar it's due coming right up. So there you go. It looks as if we're not eligible. In any case, I think the last time I looked it was that they wouldn't give grants to city, you know, to government organizations. But yeah, I still have the list of my preliminary run-through of that book and I'm slowly working my way through it. Most of them seem to be to disqualify us because we are a government agency. So that's a difficult I'll keep going. Thanks, Michael. So I do have a fundraising like your budget line update. You've got two grants. The only one that we have right now in the system is the Ben and Jerry's one. So we'll just need to facilitate getting the other one in there. But the Ben and Jerry's Foundation and the few donations you've received, you have $718 in your account. That is in addition to the 10k from the city, which I think is half spent at this point because we did the pre and post for creative discourse. They're in two separate lines though, so we can track them separate. I did have a conversation or an exchange with someone who I had written to about getting onto the mailing list. And the question was, well, yeah, I'd be interested in doing some donations. Is there anything else? Or are you just trying to raise money from this? So I did point out that we had vacancies on the committee. And we'll see if that, but this person was interested and knows other people who are interested in making donations for these kinds of things in the city. And so this person is going to spread the word in that group of people that might be interested. So we'll see if something more turns up. Awesome. When you're sending out the newsletter on this occasional basis, are you still including the link to how to make a donation to the city? Yeah, okay. There's only been three that have been sent out. My goal is to send them out monthly and there's no right or reason to when I have the time to work on it. But yes, and everyone there has been the link for where to put in. And I did kind of write that check in and send that I'm all up to date on that as of the holidays. And then I have not received anything since then. And I have not sent anything out since then. So there are a bunch of things to be able to put into that next newsletter, mostly thanks to Cameron. But sort of anyone else has anything else to add in, you know, just send them to me as they kind of come across your feet. If you like see something in front for forever and you're like this might be interesting. I do read them all, but I might have missed it. So or anything else. Yeah, that could be of interest. It's okay not to send it out and send out the newsletter all that often. When I was sending my letters, I promised them we wouldn't deluge them with, you know, so it's all right. I think probably everybody's in basket is filled with stuff that they accidentally joined. Oh, totally. And I, you know, run this newsletter for this coalition facility and recently out in the beginning of every first week of every month and on Monday, I was like, there's nothing to report here. Like why would I send this newsletter? That's just the facilitators update. So we're not doing that. Only when there's important things to share. Okay. So important things to share are outreach for the creative discourses, you know, work plan updates. So as I said, I'll be able to send up the newsletter shortly. And then the only like thing that I had on here, unless other people have stuff, I think we're in this meeting early, guys, is focus group contacts. So just because Julia and now Lolita have stepped down, they wanted to be kind of a point person for doing these, being kind of the point person for organizing these meetings. So just a quick reminder of like what being the point person means is so let me drop this link in the chat too real quick. Just okay. So being the point person means that one, you're kind of hitting the logistics of scheduling the meeting. So like when the time that works best and who's how many people are going to be there and who's going to be there. And for security reasons, oops, I'm going to go weird echo. I just started. Maybe Pam and Michael, could you maybe meet when not talking? Let's see if I fix a bit. Sorry. Thank you guys. So for security, we're not kind of collecting all of the names of like who's going to participate in these meetings publicly or through this listserv. But instead, as the point person, you're collecting the names of who is going to be in that and then sending those directly to creative discourses to Keisha. So she can then send out the zoom information and how to participate in the meetings and how they're going to get compensated and all that. And so that's really kind of the main thing about being the point person is doing that outreach of setting up the meetings with organizations that are working on these things in the area and doing kind of that snowball. And I'm like, okay, who else should we talk to? And who do you know who might be interested and things like that? How do they want us to present that to them? So they want to talk to the police, but my police work on a bunch of different schedules. So I want to collect the days that work best for my team and send that to them. Do you want to handle that? I just want to know, because you're sort of our point person for Keisha, how do you want us to communicate that to creative discourse? That's a great question because I was like, I don't want to handle that. Yeah, I know, I know. I can't imagine. But I mean, what do you think, Cameron? Like, would you like to try to find a time that works best and just assume that one of them will be able to make it or communicate directly with Keisha? Can you ask them how they would like to handle that? So then we know that's information that you could just send out to this group. Like, it's not a conversation, it's not a voting point. It's an informational awareness thing just to say if you have a, if you've contacted your group and have a meeting time and have like some meeting times at work, email, blah, blah, blah. So perfect. Scheduling is a allowable email. Any other questions or comments or anything or volunteers for taking these on? Is there any handy boilerplate language we can use to introduce creative discourse requests as we're reaching out to people? Yeah, I think they have sent some stuff. It's not like it'll definitely need to be fine-tuned based on like the group and stuff. Let me, can I share that as a point of information in an email too? Because I don't want to spend the time doing that right now. But yeah, it was in some email, I think maybe before you joined Jeremy. We are muted, Michael. I'm sorry. Yeah, you'll send that to everybody, right? Okay. Yes, it's going to do. I do have a question. I looked over this. I sent a bunch of names to Cameron about the leaders of community-led organizations, et cetera, realized without looking all the way down the list, so there's some overlap. But what's going to happen now that Julia is not on the committee, who's going to handle the two that she had taken on for her assignment? I think that's your agenda topic today. That's what we're... Are you volunteering, Michael? Is that what I'm hearing? I'm not. Okay. For either of them? Not, no, not neither for those, for neither of those. Pellan doesn't have one. Did she not volunteer? Was she not here that meeting? I'm not sure, but I can circle back with Pellan too. Yeah. Just saying. Just saying. She's not here. It's that weekend. That's what happens. You don't come. No, that's terrible. She's not feeling well. That's not how we run things. Jeremy, Lauren, Pam, do you want some big eyes to you guys? Or I can talk with Pellan and we can hash it out too. I think I'm feeling a little bit unqualified to take on either of Julia's groups, just because I don't have an accent in either of those communities. You can put me down for the LGBTQ group. Yeah, Cameron. Thank you. Yes. Well, you're now doing four, which is almost half of them. Three of them are my staff. That's not hard. I will push them too hard here, Cameron. That sounds great. Okay. Awesome. Okay. So then I'll put myself down for my talk and I'll talk to Pellan about it as well and hopefully she'll be able to. And I'll add that the list that I sent to Cameron included a couple of suggestions for the LGBTQ. Well, then I will steal those. Thank you, Michael. Well, yeah, for whatever they're, you know, as good as they're worth. And I would just add that any of us who, even though we're not going to be point persons, we can all send to the appropriate person any suggestions that come to mind. I'm certainly happy to do that. And there are a few places where I can sort of say, oh, I know somebody there or something. Yeah. Maybe if we can get this meeting wrapped up, we can just spend, I might stick on my computer for a few minutes and just do that, try to hammer that out at the end. Awesome. So anything else for kind of the outreach, any other thing, anything else to note? I think I haven't talked to anyone about this since our last meeting. Okay. Reflections and next steps on our COVID response. So just coming out of our last call, hearing a lot from a sustainable Montpelier, they're big, I'm sorry, before we move on to that, of what they're all these different committees that are doing community outreach around a lot of similar issues. And so if this has sparked any ideas, we've talked about the police commission, the school board, any other groups that are doing community outreach that we should be coordinating with and any ideas on how to survey the Montpelier community together. Because this is why this got triggered was because COVID sustainable Montpelier was talking about how they have done this survey of Montpelier residents every 10 years and they wanted to work together to make sure that they could incorporate their questions into the survey as well. And so I didn't know if anyone wanted to kind of be a point person for a sustainable Montpelier, we should invite them back if one of us should go to their meetings of like what a good process would be for following up with them on that. Shana, you're thinking this is specifically about that town survey they want to do in March or is it broader? That is what I was thinking specifically. For sustainable Montpelier. And then because Michael's the point person for the getting the policing committee's questions on it and things like that. I wonder if we could get they haven't been around 10 years right? I was going to say could we get their last survey? Do they have a template like is there something that we could look at in the meantime to see like is this something where it makes any sense whatsoever to try to collaborate or are they just too distinct enough things before we like do too? I'm a little confused. I thought that they would I thought Elizabeth was talking about the survey that the city sends out and the last time that was done and Cameron maybe you know about this. It keeps getting pushed back because of budgetary reasons right? And it's something that the city has done just on you know I would say more or less regularly but it's less regularly than more. And so it's not it's not sustainable Montpelier's survey it's the city's survey and they want to be able to put in questions and they're asking us about language. I thought they were doing their own survey and they were letting us know. I think I was also assuming that that makes a lot more sense to me Michael. I wonder if this could be an email where we could just get can you explain to us what are you thinking re-survey so we can like understand. Yeah because the city is definitely not doing a survey. Yeah but maybe they don't realize. I don't like Michael so I don't think we've done one in years. I don't think we've done one in years. I'm trying to remember when the last one was done. I know that there was one after the new master plan but I mostly remember it being keeping getting pushed back because of the costs of it. But I mean if my thought is sustainable Montpelier wants to be the one to be asking questions and they just want us to I think her phrase was curate the language. As a person who's worked in museums I'm sort of seeing curator all over the place in unexpected places but I mean my feeling is let them put together their questions and send them to us and we can we can review them and say well look you might be able to use a better phrase here but I mean I think it's what they want to do is be is to sort of have us help them with with the editing not the not so much the content. That was the way I heard what Elizabeth was saying. But then was it was part of our process with creative discourse a community survey. I thought that's where the rub was coming in was we don't want two big surveys going out to the community that might have a lot of overlap. Well it sounds as if the city isn't planning to do one so there won't be we won't have that conflict right. But if sustainable is doing one. I would I would volunteer to reach out to her name was Elizabeth. Yeah why don't I reach out to Elizabeth maybe even jump on the phone with her get a little bit more clarity on what she's talking about and then I can come back to y'all and with some more clear information. Thank you so much next steps here we go. Awesome and any other reflections or next steps around that conversation or COVID response from our December meeting. Jeremy I put Elizabeth's email in the chat. Okay great thank you. Okay then for other business I just wanted to make sure we could dig in on committee recruitment. Pam would love to have you officially join the committee and just wanted to spend some time seeing if we could brainstorm other members who may be interested in joining that we could meet with just to make that like specific ask to have folks to join the committee when we're at this really crucial and pivotal time in our committee's existence. So Pam will you can you fill out the form to join or a committee. Yeah awesome. It's so exciting. Yeah we have a new member not yet we have to get approved and everything else we'll celebrate you again Pam. But anyone else that folks think would be a good idea that we can follow up if you know them personally were you know if they're work or in the US folks we should we should be approaching. Yeah Pam. Who's the dream candidate like describe a dream candidate. Not a warm body. Yeah I think at this point in our coalition and our committee's existence I think we are looking for for folks who are doers and who are going to be able to who have like relationships in Montpelier who to help us have these meetings and to have them be successful and to you know help us kind of enact our plan. So yeah so folks who know folks to recruit to be able to you know hold these meetings to be able to build the relationships and trust to be able to have these this our plan being successful. How's that for encapsulating what other folks think. Well I think it would be I think it would be a good idea if we had some you know some some diversity in our committee to reflect some of the issues you know to have you know have people from the communities that we're we're talking about and trying to sort of understand better and understand what their issues are to have someone be on the committee who is in that. Yeah. Having folks of different races or backgrounds or experience living in Montpelier and where they live in Montpelier and or not in Montpelier or gender ethnic background all that into consideration. Yeah it's important to realize to know that you don't have to be a resident of Montpelier to be on a committee so we can look farther afield than just to just right around us. Well there must be people who fit into that ideal among us so. Is there anyone in the you know we're identifying people who we think might want to engage with us in the creative discourse process. Is that spurring any or I mean that seems like a place to look or maybe after the conversation say like we're doing the work around this like love to you know we're already kind of doing brainstorming in that way. Great maybe like as we're having these meetings as part of our even if I'm gonna edit this email to send to Jeremy and to the rest of everyone else about like here's about this project we're doing can just include in there like and we need you to join and that'll be a good touch touchstone as well. And and maybe we could have the cd folks who do the meetings say that at the end of the meeting that if any you know remind them that we do have the vacancy and maybe they can even come up with some suggestions you know pass back to us some suggestions of people to contact for for that. Yeah all right seeing no other genius ideas oh Cameron has genius idea. Oh no I don't have a genius idea I didn't want to mention that we have advertised this so we're gonna put y'all's newspaper as soon as that cycle goes back out so we are working on that and I just wanted to this was sorry I jumped the gun a little bit but I just want to make sure that we work out scheduling for next meeting because it falls on a Thursday which is the one Thursday of the year we have a council meeting um so we're at that space I'd love to chat about that take it away yeah so the 21st is the only is your next scheduled meeting for your schedule but um Lauren and I would not be able to be there I don't of course don't count towards your quorum but um you'd probably be under quorum at that time so I didn't know if you guys were able to reschedule maybe for the same time Wednesday or Friday or literally anytime that week just if you want to reschedule and you were available I could do Monday or Wednesday 5.30 to 7. What are people's thoughts on Wednesday I can do Wednesday I can do Wednesday me too I was planning to be at the city council on Wednesday I'm glad to know that it's going to be Thursday so it is Thursday all right I will send in I will change everything and notice it for Wednesday this 20th great same zoom channel same zoom place okay and so on our agenda is um gonna be learnings for that for that I don't think we'll have any fundraising updates because I don't think there's anything new um and then hopefully maybe we can really try to dig in and focus on doing that outreach for these upcoming meetings and um do some do some more report back and digging in on that supporting each other in who we should reach out to and and how to schedule those um I actually don't know when my next meeting is Keisha is um but I can alert everyone to that via email once I once I figure that out if anyone wants to join yep nope some of my calendar okay um anything else before we close out I can go over kind of the next steps here too so I've gotten that yeah I'm writing this um uh acorn foundation grant um talking with Pelin about the BIPOC meeting Jeremy will reach will reach out to sustainable Montpelier I'll talk with Keisha about how to set up meetings and we'll email the team I will send out a sample language for recruitment um and include uh like recruitment language for the committee in that as well and uh ask creative discourses to suggest folks for us to reach out to and we'll all do our outreach anything else Mr thank you guys thank you all take care