 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network We are getting into week number 11 in the NFL Which means we're starting to see some surprise contenders rise in both conferences. Maybe the Lions aren't a surprise Maybe that's a mislabeling there on my behalf, but we're talking about them We're talking about the Cleveland Browns as well break down our read on those teams in the futures market They're upside and then we'll talk about week number 11 as well to get you ready Which should be another fun week of games This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research My name is Jim Sonis I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research joined here as I am every Tuesday by Ryan Williams Check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan the bills a Disappointment last night once again, which I think does make the playoff race pretty fun But did not make my bank account very happy. How you doing today? Yeah, I'm right there with you Jim. I was not was not a fun Monday night For this household, but we did talk about Courtland Sutton first touchdown Which ironically we did talk about that in King Cade on those that first touch on the court the second one So, you know a little little bit of profit there from the sportsbook standpoint But yeah had the had the bills covering that seven and the over in the game and Russell Wilson and Sean Payton out of the buy Made clowns of the two of us. So that was a fun one Yeah, I I did feel like a clown betting on that dumb team last night But Ryan, you know what paint me up because I'm doing it once again this week We'll talk about my read on the week 11 spreads and totals later on today Get my first look into week number 11 But first research that start things off by talking about the futures market talking lions talking browns and other futures Ryan likes Entering week 11 the first-day reminder to make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We're here every weekday breaking down the NFL We also have college football coming up for tomorrow with dr At Feng don't forget that Tom Vecchio has you covered for Thursday night and Sunday night football And also next week Tom will have a Thanksgiving day preview talking props for all three games there That'll be up next week So do you want to get these shows as they go live? Make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast You can also find us on the Fandall YouTube page and Fandall TV plus Now Ryan let's begin things off by talking about the Detroit Lions because they have been a very fun team to walk So far this year another win over a competent team on Sunday in the Chargers Currently plus 550 to win the NFC now. It's a pretty top-heavy Conference you got the Eagles got the 49ers and I think if we want to bet the Lions here We got to make sure they are in the same tier as those two teams So do you think the Lions are there yet to enough high enough to justify consideration at plus 550? Or is it really kind of a two-horse race? Maybe a three-horse race if you put Dallas in there as well? Yeah, I mean it it feels like they they belong in the conversation. I mean what Dan Kemble has been doing with this with this roster And you know got it listen. I've been the hardest harshest critic of Aaron Glenn on the Feel like they haven't been able to put it together as of late and they're you know going out and doing the thing I know they allowed like 38 points You know the opponents respectively so when you're looking at the rest of the season schedule for the Detroit Lions I think that's what really jumps off the page You're not talking about them playing against really tough competition for a couple weeks here until we get to the Christmas Eve game against Minnesota And then they'll have Minnesota Dallas in the Minnesota to wrap up the season But at that point like they might be sitting at you know 13 and 2 When it when it comes down to it The you know it's gonna be interesting to see how the NFC East plays out because you know Philly and in Dallas are gonna have some tough battles here Philly's got a really tough schedule to kind of you know start after there by and Dallas has got a tough schedule to kind of end it on now The interesting one there is San Francisco And I you know we talked about them last week Jim I'm on them to you know get the 12 wins and I really feel Confident about what they're able to put together especially with them getting healthy back on that end So I think San Francisco like definitely has a case really to be in that one seat And obviously the sportsbook like has it appropriate But yeah Detroit just with the way that their schedule shapes up like they this could be You know the best value that we get on them for a while here So if you if you believe in them, I would take a shot now Yeah, they they are in a good spot to potentially at least be a contender for the one seed I agree that San Francisco is a better team But San Francisco already has three losses where Detroit's at two and that does matter quite a bit now I have San Francisco is kind of being in a tier of their own right now in my numbers in the NFC It's them number one then it dips down to mean Dallas is two I don't know if I'd hand rank them above Philly, but Philly is three and then Detroit So pretty in line with what the the sportsbook has but like you said the NFC use is pretty tough And that could didn't that ding things and if the Lions are able to work their way Toward the one seed that'd be a pretty big advantage for them to have because you're playing you're getting Jared Indores for the entire playoffs then if that does wind up being the case whereas Dallas the only other indoor team really in contention for this crown I don't know if that's enough to take the Lions a plus 550. I think that My respect for San Francisco primarily is the main reason why I might not get there But they're at least worth considering is what I would say So I think it sounds like we're kind of on the same page with them where we're leaning more towards San Francisco We view them as being the biggest threat in the NFC right now, but the Lions have at least earned some discussion here for sure Absolutely, absolutely job. All right Let's slip things over and talk about the AFC because we talked a lot Ryan about the Ravens and the Bengals and how good They've been so far this year the Bengals the potential they could show I should say but on Sunday it was a Cleveland Browns kind of coming out and Playing well against the Ravens, especially in the second half to Sean Watson finally got going there now They're six and three baby plus 44 point differential. They've got the best defense in football Any interest for you in buying in Brown's futures right now or is the market value in them pretty properly? Yeah, I think they're I think they're valuing them properly. I I might have them a little bit higher The I mean they're right there with Jacksonville But Jacksonville has just been a been a tough one for for me to to trust all season Miami's a little bit too high too We're gonna start seeing from Miami if they're if they're the real deal come late with them playing against some more Playoff contingent opponents. You love you love what you saw from Cleveland I mean, that's what they paid to Sean Watson to do to you know, put up points and to you know Beat the beat the top tier talent and they keep them in the conversation They are tied for second in the division right now with the Steelers and they have a matchup with the Steelers in week 11 So this is gonna be an interesting one at the Steelers were able to to get To get them in the first matchup. So we'll see what comes down to it You know the thing that I worry about with the Cleveland Browns is You know, are they going to be able to keep this up for the rest of the season? You know, they've been dealing with a lot of injuries injuries at the quarterback position We weren't even sure like if Deshaun Watson was gonna be healthy to you know, play these past couple of weeks and having PJ Walker and DTR out there at quarterback. And so I am curious to see If this honeymoon kind of rides out But you know when you're looking at their schedule, they do have a couple favorable matchups there after Spitzburg you get Denver You get LA you get Jacksonville at home to play the Bears at Houston will be an interesting matchup And then the Jetson Bengals to kind of wrap it out So they should they should be in the mix, but this is a team that offensively. I don't know how we how we can trust them You know, they've just been dreckling hide all season But yeah, that defense is can keep up with anybody and so that might just be enough to keep them in games Granted that Deshaun Watson can take care of the football. Yeah, they're weirdly very similar to Pittsburgh Where the defense keeps him in games and the offense can do some funky stuff late to kind of win games And I don't do that as being the most sustainable profile. I think that if we're talking about Upside enough to win the ASC there tend to one I have no interest there personally at 10 to 1 because I need to see it more than one half out of Deshaun Watson Because it's not just like a couple games where things have been pretty rough It's been ever since he came back So I need to see it more consistently the offensive line as you alluded to is pretty banged up right now That's a concern as well. I know again They they won't without those guys on Sunday, but one half against against Baltimore where there was defense attach done there by Greg Newsom like it's it's I need to see it a bit more so Personally, I'm very okay not buying into Cleveland right now if they make me regret that later on and so be it They're currently ninth my power rankings with just 2023 data in there because that defense is so good, but that's still behind You know teams they're gonna have to fight with it's behind a lot of ASC teams So even though I think they're probably properly ranked in the ASC I probably put them above Jacksonville personally, but like they're probably properly ranked in the ASC I Don't see enough to incentivize me to actually take a bite at them Just because I still don't buy in that offense having Legitimate staying power given the competition they'll face Yeah, absolutely. I mean it just you know, they've shown us enough through this year Which you know, it's incredible to think about like six and three record when I saw the rundown here I was like putting quickly one in that in that scenario, but yeah, the defense has just been so stout You love the matchup that they the matchups that they are getting Most recently with the offense on the other side, so they should be able to keep them in games Yeah, that's a big thing It means that they'll be they'll be able to like they have the upside to get there in terms of like having a very good record I just don't know they have the upside to be to play out like a really good playoff team in the playoffs and stuff like that So, you know over a for game stretch and stuff like that Okay Beyond the Lions and the Browns Ryan which teams got the biggest boost or boost boost up or boost down for you Based on what we saw on week number 10 Yeah, I kind of I kind of Don't feel good about this one as a as a stock up because we talked about them yesterday on you know What they what happens when they play this opponent? Every time but Dallas Cowboys Haven't having a stock up is interesting now the interesting thing that comes about it And they sit two games behind Philly right now And so when we're looking at you know, Philly's record like I'm saying they're gonna have some tough games Coming up here. They got the chiefs on Monday nights. Then I believe they play San Fran Buffalo then San Fran and so when you're looking at you know, those three matchups there Like if what happens if they come out with two losses, you know from from these games now They're coming out of there by so I think they'll be able to fire on us cylinders You know, they're gonna be geeked up for the Super Bowl rematch Against can Kansas City in Arrowhead But or you know, whatever the new stadium was called. I still call it arrowhead I think I think Dallas, you know, they kind of if they can you know, get these next couple of next couple of weeks going like They're gonna play Carolina on the road Then they get Washington Seattle and Philly all three at home like if they're going into that Philly game on December 10 And they you know have an undefeated record and Philly's slip Maybe they have only lost one game of those three that we talked about but then they lose against Dallas there It could be really interesting for Dallas controlling their own destiny You know Dallas is outscoring opponents at home 160 to 50 gym like it's just outrageous what they're doing at AT&T stadium and that game against Philly on December 10th Is at home and they've won five straight against Philly at home So, you know Dallas, you know not to put the blinders on here But they just need to focus on these next couple of opponents and really just get the tie Get wins lined up in the column for them and then you know kind of just watch what Philly does They deserve to be at the top right now like they are just incredible on both sides of the football I think you know Jalen Hertz is is is incredible, but we see this kind of Every year in the regular season where things can kind of falter especially with those divisional match-ups come into the fold Dallas is probably you know, I want to get on them right now Just because of the way it shapes up for them these next couple of games but then to close out the season You know, they're looking at going on the road to Buffalo, Miami Detroit at home and then finishing up with Washington So, you know, then we could be looking at the best value for a while there and then it kind of shape up But I think any type of you know the conference if you want to take the shot on them I think that's fair at plus 550 In the division even When we were looking at that, I believe they're plus 140 to win the division If I'm sorry plus 410. Yes plus 410 to win the division my bad So, yeah, this is a this is a spot that I want to be on right now As things shape up. Yeah, the division is interesting I think the Cowboys get this like the get they get a bad rap for not be They're kind of like in the same bucket as the Dolphins where people will sometimes say they can't be like the top-end teams But like they showed last week that they can beat the top-end team They just didn't be Philadelphia, but I think they played well enough in that game to show They're not a fluke and also like you said like they do tend to play a lot better at home That Philly game was on the road. So I do personally feel like they are a Legitimate team that will need to be reckoned with in the NFC as I mentioned before my my 2023 only numbers do have Dallas ranked a bit higher than Philadelphia right now again I don't know if I would do that personally my numbers tend to be a bit weird to Philadelphia and Joe and Hertz was injured for basically the entire first half of the year and maybe you'll be held to come out of Their bye week. So I'm not sure if I'd a hand-ranked in there But they're a team that I think is legitimate is what I would say about Dallas for sure And plus for 10 to win the division I know the the way things line up is pretty tough But as you said Philadelphia facing Kansas City on Monday night, they've got a face Dallas once again later on They got some tougher games in there, too So this division is not done as of right now Despite Dallas being plus 410 Any other futures you want to check out entering week 11 Ryan? Yeah, I think we we got to talk about the Houston Texans here. Uh, just just real real quickly I mean the fact that cj stroud has entered the mvp conversation You know as a rookie with only uh 10 9 10 games under his belt is absolutely incredible Um, and you know the way the mico ryan's has this team going and coached on defense I think there's some air they're like afc south plus 270 Jacksonville just doesn't they just don't do it for me They're they're not showcasing enough to be able to you know, put teams away I don't I don't trust them in the matchups where they're supposed to win big and the matchups wherein, you know It's they have a tough opponent on the other side I can't trust them to put up the points and kind of keep things going there. They're just really I I don't understand this team and it feels like they have the pieces together, but not really So houston they kind of just even keel. I think they're you know the way that CJ stroud is playing right now. I think they can beat any team They've got arizona. They got a Jacksonville team coming at home then denver and then on the road to the jets But really, you know the fact that they have so many of these afc south team opponents on their schedule Like makes me feel pretty good about the outlook for them. So plus 270 to win the south I think they're plus 110 to make the playoffs like really interesting stuff there when you're looking at Houston Texans Yeah, the Texans at least as of right now They only have one or two is it one or two? They have two games remaining against teams currently in the playoffs One is Jacksonville at home and they already beat Jacksonville one so far this year And then they have Cleveland at home now that seems to be tough Given how good Cleveland's defense is so that's a pretty tough one, but they get Tennessee twice They get indy once they get denver You mentioned the jets game arizona this weekend I think they're a good bet again this weekend at arizona I've shown value in the Texans money line every single week so far this year that streak does continue entering week number 11 So like we're just going to keep on running back and what that says to me ryan is that sportsbooks have not Given them the proper respect yet and that does translate to all markets. So The to make the playoffs plus 110. I think that's very fair Like you said to win the division. They're plus 270 right now as well I think both those are least considerations given that The passing passing offense is a pretty sticky metric And they have one of the best passing offense in football right now despite not having their left tackle for three or four games Despite not having uh tank del for a game no nico collins for a game. They've had injuries and they're still playing as well so I actually agree with you we're like They're they're in the discussion for sure not just to make the playoffs But also to potentially win the afc south given they've got the winner were jackson on hand and have another game at home against them coming up in two weeks Absolutely. Yeah, I just I love the story. Love the narrative around this team Like you're seeing de bico ryan's like he's the second favorite. I think right now for coach of the year behind dan cambell Uh, really fun stuff. They're going on to houston and like nick casario Like caught a lot of crap for like all the jack east of you stuff back in the day But like he should be in the discussion for executive of the year too given that he brought in stroud brought in will Anderson brought in tank del and you know had some Pretty solid other options in there too. So uh overall just really fun texas team We'll talk about as I talk about spreads and totals I like for week number 11 in just one second the first ryan got to say thank you to you for joining me once again as always Uh, good luck to you across the rest this week We'll talk to you once again next week on monday spray town pretty fun game between the eagles and the cheese Yeah, can't wait to get it take it can't wait to chop it up for that one. That'll be a fun one jump Have a good day. 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I was on the buffalo bills Talked about them minus seven and a half on tuesday last week this week They are taking on the new york jets and even though last night was Disgusting hideous abysmal. We're going right back to the well once again laying the six and a half of the bills that's minus 122 a fandals sports book right now as a Bonus for not laying the full touchdown getting a full win on seven So minus 122 is a lot to lay for sure, but still showing value here personally Uh, the circumstances in the last night's game were pretty wild bunch of turnovers to the bills Which can happen because their offense does do that but turnovers Tend to be more random than a lot of other events and the broncos ran really hot on lay downs Like the bills would get pressure But then rustle wilson would do some rustle wilson magic like vintage rusts and you know shuffle pass for a first down He had some scrambles for a first down and that's not a lot of stuff you expect from the new york jets Given the way their offense is operating right now Even when I add in data from last night's game My model still makes the bills nine and a half point favorites in this game Even you look at just 2023 data so looking at A set where the bills are five and five and the offense has had its issues The bills still rank third in my model's offensive power rankings after adjusting for their schedule Their defense is legitimately bad and that's a concern not just this week, but also going forward But the jets rank dead last by a good margin in that model's offensive power rankings It's possible the jets defense can Generate some chaos josh allen moments here and keep this game pretty close But that's the only path to a cover. I see for them. I don't think this jets offense No matter how bad the bills defense may be is going to make This game competitive It would be more so the bills offense shooting itself in the foot and that could happen because they just did it last night but Six and a half to me feels a bit light It didn't move a lot after last night's game with seven on the look ahead line But I still think it's six and a half. It's a value So to me the bills minus six and a half against the jets a value here Despite how frustrating seem has been the entire year. We bet against the jets now three consecutive weeks Here on the show or I guess not in the show because the Raiders one was up last week, but We're gonna do it once again and ride the bills on Sunday afternoon Let's talk about a couple of totals where I show value one of those is in a game That's like kind of interesting between the 49ers and the Buccaneers that total is 41 and a half right now And I do want the over for this game now Getting to 41 and a half It does require some out of the Bucs offense But I don't think they need to do a ton to get an over in this game This game features my model's second rank path a second rank overall offense Taking on a defense that ranks 23rd against the pass when you include a prior if you look at just 2023 data to then A bit worse Brock Purdy back to slinging it once again on sunday. He had Six throws 16 plus yards down field. He completed all six for 170 yards and two touchdowns So my model puts the spread at 11.2. It's a 10 and a half right now. It's that fan dual sports books So no value there in terms of Trying to bet that spread But it does imply that a larger total is justified because a larger spread correlates well with a larger total There is some wind in santa clara for this weekend projected at nine miles per hour right now That does knock the total down in my model, but even when you account for that I still got this one above 44 in my model. So i'm happy to take the over here at 41 and a half Yes, it is a bit dependent on a baker mayfield led offense putting up some points against a Very very good defense that that flexes muscles once again on sunday But i'm okay with that personally. I think it's a worthwhile endeavor Given that san francisco probably put up a lot of points all by themselves against this pretty underwhelming tampa bay defense. So Bucking ears 49ers over 41 and a half minus 110 the first total I like for this week the second one is one that's actually risen a lot over the past 24 hours News broke last night that matthew stafford will play or expects to play in week 11 So total for the seahawks rams went up to 46 overnight and I want the under here at minus 110 Because I think that 46 number seems pretty optimistic the rams offense was Starting to slip a bit even before stafford thumb injury which occurred in the dallas game I scored 20 in that game, but They failed to hit 20 points In three out of five games leading into the dallas game Where stafford hurt his thumb and those two of those games included cooper cup So or three of those games included cooper cup. So even when cup was back This offense still was not really clicking before the stafford injury This is a repeat divisional matchup These two teams phase each other back in week one and it was a 43 point total in that game with the rams winning Passing efficiency does tend to decline when teams see each other for a second time This one's buoyed a bit by this game being indoors. That does help My model liked the under even when this total was a 44 and a half So it does mean we're betting against the market by taking the under 46 because it has been bet up to that number but I do feel good in the under now that it is 46 so rams Seahawks under 46 minus 110 the second total I liked this week So four recommendations based on what we're seeing right now Like that game under 46 like the bucks 49ers over 41 and a half minus 110 The bills minus six and a half minus 122 and the Texans minus four and a half at minus 105 And with that one if you want to wait to see if you can get a better number later on I think that is fully justified. But either way I wouldn't want exposure to the Texans at some point That's going to wrap up the overall recommendations for today But we do got to go back through last week's recommendations here on the show before we close up shop for today Let's begin things off by talking about Dr. Ed Fang you can find him on twitter at the power rank check out his work at the power rank dot com and check out his other podcast The football analytics show on the college side of things ed one and one for the week He had michigan penn state over 45 and a half that one closed Are finished at 39 at total points as the penn state offense once again Couldn't get things going jim harbaugh suspension happened pretty dramatic overall saturday there did get a win Though with utah, uh, they were plus nine and a half taking on washington They didn't win, but they lost that game by seven So a cover there for utah to get ed one and one on college football Also went one and one on the nfl side things the win was the bucks minus one and a half taken on tennessee They won that game by 14 20 to six and then he had the bangles minus six and a half against houston And that was I think while t. Higgins kind of up in the air whether he played or not but Regardless the texans won that game outright. So two and two week overall for ed who is back with us once again tomorrow We had jj zack recent on this week to talk about player props on friday find jj on twitter at late round qb Find his work at late round dot com and the late round fantasy football podcast jj hit two more touchdown vets once again And this week those vets were jaden reed to score a plus 350 and debo sandal plus 160 debo scored on the ground jaden reed through the air so plus 350 and plus 160 depending on scaling Probably got you a profit for the week. The other three didn't hit but depends on the scaling of the Bets you gave you profited there but good calls by jj on those other ones were alexander madison plus 145 Left early from that game with a concussion tine chandler, I believe had a touchdown later on in that game. So with the goal line rush I think that was before madison got hurt, but can't recall entirely but The vikings overall did play pretty well in that game and you know, hopefully madison is okay Other two were both from the tennessee side of things He liked will leves over 220 and a half passing yards minus 114 and nick was westbrook akina over 18 and a half receiving yards titans offense didn't work Leves still almost got there finished with 199 akina westbrook akina Finished with nine receiving yards in the game So couldn't quite get there with the tennessee passing offense But again, like I said depending on how you scale the touchdown vets potentially Still a profitable week for you. So find jg on twitter at late round qb We had ryan wins on last night talk monday night football find ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w as mentioned Did hit the courtland sutton first touchdown score in that game Dolphin concade was 11 to 1 to score the first one. He scored the second one So good call by ryan on both those With the touchdown scores in the game He liked the over 47 half minus 110 finish at 46 again weird I just weird stuff all around. I hated that entire game. So annoying there got close at dalton concade He had over five and a half receptions at plus 114 concade had exactly five Receptions so couldn't quite get that one. He had gave davis over 30 and a half receiving yards Gabe had 56 I tried to talk ryan to an alternate over Hopefully you did not listen to me because that would not have hit The 50 plus yards did but looking at 60 plus But 39 and a half did hit the over there He had khalil shakir over three and a half receptions. That was plus 132 Couldn't quite get there shakir's roll was underwhelming last night. He had just one reception He had courtland sudden over 45 and a half receiving yards at minus 113 sudden at 53 for the game Also, jerry judy over 52 and a half yards and minus 113 that one went under because judy Didn't do a whole lot for the game julio mclofflin over 23 and a half rushing plus receiving yards of minus 114 he finished with 12 Givante willians really was the Not the the full feature back but pretty close to it in that game had gave davis plus 220 for any time touchdown That one didn't hit the the fun one was josh allen four plus touchdowns and a plus 870 allen did not get there And then the bills minus four and a half in the first half and minus 105 And of course the broncos did win in the first half as well so hopefully the sudden one made up for it, but Good call by ryan on the courtland Sutton first touchdown scorer and hopefully that made up for the rest of Or just a rough night for us overall because I had the bills minus seven and a half as well As mentioned find ryan on twitter at ryanouthander underscore w's had a lot of good mondays for us On the show so far this year the bills for me was kind of a capper on a frustrating Week for me. I had the minus seven and a half and minus 105 that did not hit obviously Had the colts minus one and a half in the germany game They won that game by four so they did get a cover there I had the commanders and seahawks under 45 and a half minus 110. I was sitting at 45 late in that game and the Commanders needed a touchdown to take the lead and they would not have they would not have kicked a field goal anything like that And sam howell of course finds giami brown as former college teammate for a long touchdown to get the over there Thought I might have that one slipped away pretty late. So Frustrating way for that game to end. I had the titans and bucks over 38 and a half and Titan's offense did nothing so that batteried by me on that one But annoyed about the bills game annoyed about the commander seahawks under Thought that one had a chance, but alas it did not we'll see if we can bounce back in week number 11 That's all we got here for today on covering the spread We want to give a big thank you once again to ryan williams our guest earlier on today Find him on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w we are back once again tomorrow talking to dr Ed fang about college football week number 12 You can find that show as it goes live on the covering the spread podcast feed if you like put you here on apple apple podcast or spotify Leave us a five star rating you can find us on fandal tv plus and the fandal youtube page as well If you've got any questions for me. 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