 We'll get confirmation that we're live. Hi everyone, this is Chicho. Welcome to my channel and welcome to another live stream, second live stream for today. And today is October 12th, 2020. And we're going to do a reading. We're going to read as much of it as we can of Salvin Noran, The Psychedelic Essence of Salvia De Vinorum by DM Turner. And this is the book that we're going to have a read through. Here's my copy. Awesome. This is actually a copy that I picked up on the cheap about four weeks ago or so. Actually, I bought it about... I shouldn't turn this on. I keep on forgetting to turn on the audio for this. There we go. Let me turn on the audio because I do want to record this as well. Actually, what I'm going to do, I'm going to hold off on this because we're going to record it as we do the reading. Okay, so I'm going to turn this on. If I forget, remind me that we will be doing, we have to turn on the audio for this. Let me pop out the chat for now because I'm going to interact with the chat while we wait for notifications to go out. And then once I start doing a reading, you guys can just kick back and just listen, I guess. And seriously, we'll try to read as much of it as we can. Okay, so this is a copy that I picked up on the cheap. Ridiculously good price. Insanely good price. I was lucky to get my hands on this reader copy, I guess. As far as books go, it's on the rougher side. Not that rough, really. Let me pull it out. But not bad. And this book is one of the books that I actively try to collect. It's a very small book. And the author for this is a pseudonym, D. M. Turner. And the book is called Salvin Noran, the psychedelic essence of Salvia De Vinoro. And it's an important book. It's one of the most important books written in the realm of entheogens, on the realm of psychonauts. I've already read this book at least twice before. And I was introduced to this book back in 2000. And Eduardo, how are you doing? I was introduced to this book back in 2000 when I was introduced to Salvia De Vinoro, which I explored. And over the last 20 years, I've actively collected this book, as well as the other book that D. M. Turner wrote. D. M. Turner wrote only two books. Unfortunately, he passed away in the mid-late 1990s. And you can read why. I got two additional copies of this book. And these are really good copies. They're very nice copies, these two. And I put them in mylar and the backing boards, the comic book backing boards. And here's the other one. So these are treasures, as far as I'm concerned, for me anyway. It is extremely important. And the other book that D. M. Turner wrote was The Essential Psychedelic Guide by D. M. Turner. And he wrote this book before writing Salvia De Vinoro. And this is the other book that he wrote that I have one, two, three, four, five, six copies of. It's the only other book that I actively collect. These are two books. Because as far as I'm concerned, D. M. Turner is one of the greatest teachers I have ever had. Really. And deserves a tremendous amount of respect. And as far as I see it, he was one of the most important psychonauts in our time. Have a quick read of D. M. Turner's wiki entry for a mini cautionary tale. You all. Neuroblossom. Indeed. Okay. Be careful. This is not a recommendation of anything. This is sharing information. Are there any psychedelic guides out there? I just took a peek on Larry's. Yeah. Leary. Timothy Leary, Ram Dass, Alan Watts, Terence McKenna, of course, Watson. There's a few of them, right? And many of them happen to be from the United States. Watson was Watson or Watson Watson Watson, not Watson Watson was a UK, I believe. But many of them growth is good too. And many of them were from the United States. And one of the reasons I believe many of them were from the United States. Information, not endorsement. This is not an endorsement. This is sharing information. Okay. Reading a book, an important book. And at the beginning of this book, there's a little disclaimer. And I will read through this whole thing. Right. But let me read this, this little note here. Okay. And it says notice. Okay. The information contained here in is a report on the latest experimental research with a recently discovered compound and is presented for informational purposes only. The author and publisher do not advocate the use of Salvadoran or any other substance and neither does Chicho. Okay. Important. Thank you, Elder God. And this book, by the way, was written in 1996. And there's only one copy of one print of it. As is, there's only one print of the Essential Psychedelic Guide. Because DM Turner ended up passing away, experimenting with ketamine in a bathtub, bad idea. And his family does not did not support his experimentation for what I understand. And they decided not to have this book or the other book available for second printing. But it is available to read for free online. Eduardo, thank you very much for the Twitch Prime sub five months myself. Your trip was crazy. Magic of Bronson Alert. This book talks about some of the trip reports. There's some trip reports here of DM Turner. Okay. However, DM Turner was one of the first people that actually was able to extract out the psychedelic essence of Salvia de Vinorum. They called it Salvin Noren, which is the pure active ingredient of Salvia de Vinorum. And I personally would not recommend going that direction at all. Because these are considered to be teaching plants, entheogens, especially Salvia de Vinorum. It was used as an entheogen to introduce people to the shamanistic world. And it is considered the teaching plant. And there's multiple names for it, Maria Pastora, Diviner, Sage, Salvia de Vinorum, Salvia. And there's a couple of other names that it goes by. And it is considered to be the teaching plant to introduce people to the realm of entheogens. And I doubt if we're going to read this whole book today. There's about 57 pages. And here's the plant, by the way. This is what it looks like. It is from the Sage family. It is a mint. Okay. And there's 55 pages. I'm almost tempted to read the conclusion first. And if you want, should we read the conclusion first? Because it's important to read the conclusion. The content here is very important. Do you have it? I do have this. It is a Sage. It is a Sage. Let me read you guys the conclusion. Eduardo, I know what you're asking. Let me read the conclusion. And after I read the conclusion, I'm going to turn on the lapel mic and we're just going to dive into the reading gang. And as people show up, I'm not going to keep tabs on the chat. Okay. Because I just want to read the book and record it and see how much of it we can read. Use the force to show neuro blossom. Eduardo, I'm sorry. I'm not aware of the legal. I don't know. I don't know tell you the truth, right? I use it in my curies. And Elder God, Sage for sure. Salvia de Van Orm. It is extremely bitter. It tastes like poison. But as if you know anything about, for those of you watching, if you know, if you know about foods and different types of foods you can eat and their nutritional value and their health benefits and stuff like this, bitter can be poisoned. It is also medicinal. Salvia de Van Orm is extremely bitter. And it's not even bitter. It's very intense flavor. Okay. You definitely would not cook with Salvia de Van Orm. You definitely would cook with straight up sage, right? Brian Randolph, high chichot, love plant medicine, love psychedelic literature. Happy to be here. Lots of love, lots of love, brother. Lots of love, Brian. And me too. And by the way gang, one of the greatest sites online that has been active from day one really from the mid 1990s has been around is Eurowid. Use the information to your best advantage. And there's a, I provided a link in our Discord page to Eurowid. Let me get it for you where you can read Salvia de Van Orm. Both of these books are available for free. Okay. And let me get you the link for this book. Here it is. I'm just going to copy the link, copy link location. And I'm going to link this up for you guys, gang. And you can read the book for free on Eurowid as well as Shroomery and some of the other psychedelic entheo, sites that share entheogens, information and stuff like this. And it is available for free. And I highly recommend reading the whole thing. The headache afterwards was killer, though I smoked it out of pipe, tasted awful. I've never had headaches from it. Tell you the truth. Consume water. Salvia de Van Orm is a detoxant. Makes you piss like a racehorse. Okay. It purges you. So, and I will, by the way, one of the reasons I'm doing this reading is because the information needs to be shared. And at some point, I'm going to start a series of live streams and videos where I'm going to talk about my experience with Salvia de Van Orm, which was 20 years ago, I went. I consider Salvia to be one of my greatest teachers. So I'm going to do a series called Chicho Salvia de Van Orm Chronicles. And I'll walk you through my experimentation with Salvia de Van Orm. It is an amplifier of everything else. Warning given. I do not endorse this thing, but warning given. Do not mix Salvia with anything else. It is an amplifier of everything else. Amplifies it to a level that you will, you would, it will catch you by surprise. It comes up. Thanks for the question, Elder God. Salvia de Van Orm grows naturally in Oaxaca, Mexico. Okay. So Salvia de Van Orm grows in the mountains. I believe near the rivers and stuff like this in Oaxaca, Mexico. And there are two main types of strains that are available in the general public for consumption and the people are growing and they were mainly taken from cuttings. Salvia de Van Orm plant flowers seldom outside of Oaxaca. I've never been to Oaxaca, so I don't know how often the flowers there, hopefully every year. Rarely do I understand it produces seeds and the seeds aren't very prolific. They don't, they don't bloom easily. Okay. So most of Salvia that's around in the Western world is taken from cuttings from two different strains. One of them was from the 1990s. The other one I believe from the 1960s. Plants should be used as medicine and healing benefits. Never uses food. Mint. Movie stream went like clockwork. So good, so good Elder God. And by the way, if you're here new, we did a movie stream like three hours ago, four hours ago, where we picked six additional movies that we're going to watch this month and talk about them next month. And they're good picks. They're fantastic picks. Next time I experiment with it, I'll be using a bong instead. A tragic Bronson. Well, I'll share that information at a later date. What I know of it. Let's read Salvin, the psychedelic essence of Salvia Divinoro. Textures. I'll give you my take on the textures. I'll give you my take on the textures gang. What I'm going to do, let me do this. I'm going to turn on my lapel mic, because we are going to upload this to, oh yeah, I should give you my intro. Let me give you my intro gang. Let me take the Salvia picture down. Gang, if you want to know what this is about, and this is about my thesis is on Patreon as well. I am on Patreon, patreon.com, forward slash chicho, C-H-Y-C-H-O. I don't put anything behind paywalls. Everything's creative commons. Share and share alike. Okay. My work is layered on mathematics, because it is my opinion that the more people that are literate in the language of mathematics, the better our world will be. Okay. 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We will finish this book at some point. Okay. Maybe later this week, maybe in future stream. Okay. Aside from that gang, thanks for being here. I hope you enjoyed the reading and pay attention to the warnings given, pay attention to the history, pay attention to how this is written. This is about science. This is about information. This is not about partying. This is something else. This is something else. And I will share my take on Salvia Divinorum at some point. Okay. Again, let's begin. Test, test, test. Okay. I'm just going to do a little just in case at some point I decide to link it up with the video, which I doubt right now. Just a little test, test, test. Salvinorin, the psychedelic essence of Salvia Divinorum by DM Turner. Salvinorin, the psychedelic essence of Salvia Divinorum, copyright 1996 by Panther Press. ISBN 0-9642636-2-9. Library of Congress catalog registration in progress. First printing August 1996. Printed in the United States of America. DM Turner is a trademark of Panther Press. Cover by Richard Hansen. Link communications design, San Francisco. Illustration by Juan Hanna. John Hanna. All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced in any manner without the written permission of the publisher. Notice the information contained herein is a report on the latest experimental research with a recently discovered compound and is presented for informational purposes only. The author and publisher do not advocate the use of Salvinorin A or any other substance. Additional copies of this book may be ordered from Panther Press at the address below for $11.95, $9.95 plus $2 shipping handling, California residents at $0.72 tax. The essential psychedelic guide by DM Turner may be ordered for $14.95, $12.95 plus $2 shipping, California residents at $0.94 tax. For overseas orders add an additional $3 shipping. For credit card orders contact FC book company at 800-635-8883. Panther Press 1032 Irving number 514 San Francisco, California, 94122. Salvinorin, the psychedelic essence of Salvinorin. Table of contents. Introduction page 5. Salvinorin, the plant and its history, page 7. The discovery of Salvinorin A, page 11. Dosage and methods of administration, page 13. Warnings, page 17. Effects and experiences, page 19. Salvinorin A journeys, page 23. Bibliography, page 57. Introduction. Salvinorin A is a primary psychoactive compound of Salvia Divinorum, a member of the sage family found in Mexico, Mexican state of Oaxaca. Salvinorin A is the most potent naturally occurring psychedelic known and in many ways the most enigmatic. Those using Salvinorin A find it frequently induces experiences of an intensively level, intensity level which is an order of magnitude beyond those experienced with any other psychedelic, even DMT. The dimensions visited under the influence of Salvinorin A are described as extremely bizarre and varied with several aspects not common to other psychedelic experiences. Many who have used Salvinorin A find the experience extremely unnerving, frightening and overly intense. Most have no desire to repeat the experience, although there are few who have taken a liking to this entheogen and are working to develop a relationship with it. Early experiments by pioneering psychonauts suggest that access to benignly expansive realms as well as new and very real dangers are possible with this material. Salvinorin A also presents us with an entirely novel chemical structure for psychedelic drug. It's the first psychedelic dieter pen to be discovered, while nearly all other known psychedelics are alkaloids. The following pages discuss the history and botany of the rare and little known plant, Salvia divinorum, and the recent isolation of its immensely powerful active principle Salvinorin A. Since the first human experiment with this substance three years ago, Salvinorin A has generated significant interest within the psychedelic community and promises to challenge our basic understanding of consciousness and the functioning of the mind. Presented here are results of the early human experiments with Salvinorin A, many in the form of first-hand reports which give lucid descriptions of the bizarre and multifaceted worlds of Salvia divinorum. Salvia divinorum, the plant and its history. Salvia divinorum is used by the Mazatec Indians living in a remote region of Oaxaca, where it first came to the awareness of western researchers in the first half of this century. Little is known regarding the plants used before this period, although there is some indication that it may have been used by the Aztecs in earlier times. The first description of this plant in western literature was made by Swiss anthropologist Jean Bassett Johnson in 1939. Johnson, who was investigating psilocybin mushrooms, mushroom use amongst the Mazatecs, also noted their use of Salvia divinorum in healing ceremonies. Salvia divinorum is a very rare plant being found in only a few ravine locations in the Sierra Mazatec mountains. The plant is easily propagated by cuttings, and during the past few decades it has made its way into numerous botanical gardens and private collections around the world. Virtually all of the Salvia divinorum in circulation has been vegetatively propagated from two parent clones of this species. The first specimen was collected by R. Gordon Wasson in 1962, a second so-called palatable strain was collected by Brett Blosser in 1991. The palatable variety is actually still quite bitter, although less so than the Wasson clone. There are a few other strains being maintained, some of which were grown from seed, but these are not in general circulation. Cuttings of Salvia divinorum placed in a jar of water will begin rooting within two to three weeks. When the roots have reached about one inch, the cuttings may be transferred to pots. Salvia divinorum likes humidity and moisture, moderate but indirect sunlight, and warm temperatures. In most parts of the United States it will grow best in a greenhouse and it appreciates frequent misting. Too much sunlight will turn the leaves a pale green. If the leaves curl up and dry at the edges, it is a sign that the temperature is too warm for the amount of humidity they are receiving. The plants should be kept from freezing at all times, although they may grow back after a light frost that does not freeze the roots. Salvia divinorum grows into a vine-like bush with branches frequently reaching 7-10 feet in height before bending over under their own weight, often rooting where they fall. The plant has jagged edge leaves that reach 4 inches to 6 inches in length. The amount of leaf is typically sparse in proportion to the stems, and often the plants have a slightly straggly appearance. The stems are square-shaped and hollow with winged edges. Under proper growing conditions, the leaves have a beautifully deep, rich, almost velvet-like sheen and appear quite sensuous. In the fall, salvia divinorum produces delicate flowers with white-coll corollas and purple kliaccess. Salvia divinorum sets seeds rather infrequently, and only on rare occasions have these seeds proven to be viable. It is thought by many botanists that salvia divinorum is a cultogen. It is not known to exist in the wild, and the few patches that are known in the Sierra Mazateca appear to be the result of deliberate planting. A mazatec shaman informed Wasson that the Indians believe that the plant is foreign to their region and do not know from where it came. And if salvia divinorum is a hybrid, there are no commonly held theories on what its prospective parents may be. Amongst the mazatecs, salvia divinorum, diviner sage, is known under such names as Ska Maria Pastora and Herba Maria, which translates as the herb of Mary or leaves of Mary the Shepardus. In a recent paper, Juan At has noted that the mazatecs lack an indigenous name for salvia divinorum, both the Christian theme of Mary as well as sheep having been introduced to the region during the Spanish conquest. The mazatecs also use a method of consuming this plant that does not efficiently utilize its psychoactive content and seem to be generally unaware of its tremendous potency. Based on this information and the likelihood of its being a cultogen, At has suggested that salvia divinorum may be a post-conquest introduction to the Sierra Mazateca. However, it has also been suggested, initially by our Gordon Wasson, that salvia divinorum may be the Azatec plant pipilzitli. An entheogen that was briefly described by a 17th century Spanish friar, At has found that the little information available regarding pipilzitlzisi supports this hypothesis while ruling out several other plants that have been suggested as candidates for this Azateca sacrament. Our Gordon Wasson, the famed entheobotanist who introduced psilocybin mushrooms to western society, was also the first to personally describe an experience with salvia divinorum. In July of 1961, he participated in a healing ceremony performed by the mazatec corandura. Wasson ingested the squeezed juice of 34 pairs of leaves and described the results as coming on sooner than the mushrooms, being less sweeping and lasting a shorter time. It did not go beyond the initial effects of the mushrooms, dancing colors in elaborate three-dimensional designs. In end quote, in 1962, Wasson was joined in Oaxaca by Swiss pharmacologist Albert Hofmann, inventor of LSD, who also first isolated psilocybin from mushrooms gathered in this same region. Hofmann brought an alcohol extract of salvia divinorum back to Switzerland where he attempted to isolate the active compound. He was unsuccessful finding the extract to no longer be active and suggested that the plant's active principle was unstable. The discovery of Salvadoran A. There was little research performed on salvia divinorum during the following two decades. Salvadoran A was first isolated in 1982 by Alfred Ortega, Alfredo Ortega, while performing a systematic chemical search for novel terpendoid compounds within the genus salvia. Ortega's research was not related to and did not investigate this plant's psychoactive properties. A group led by Lendor Valdes, who was attempting to discover the psychoactive compounds of salvia divinorum separately isolated the same compound in 1984. The Valdes group, however, only tested Salvadoran A by administering injections to mice. Although these experiments suggested that Salvadoran A was the main psychoactive compound of the plant, the Valdes group remained unaware of its extraordinary potent effects on humans. In June 1993, Daniel Siebert discovered the strikingly powerful effects of Salvadoran A following the smoking of an extract which he had produced. Prior to producing the extract, Siebert had been experimenting with ingestion of salvia divinorum and smoking the dried leaves. Although these experiments allowed him to enter a psychedelic world, he felt that a much vaster dimension was waiting beyond the state produced by these methods of consumption. He began a series of experiments in producing concentrated extracts and trying various methods of administration. During his experiments, Siebert felt the plant's spirit was issuing a kind of intuitional guidance, encouraging him to continue with the extraction process and discover a means of achieving a full salvia experience. Pure Salvadoran A is desirable because it permits one to experience intense psychedelic effects which are often elusive when using the whole plant material. In particular, when smoking dry salvia divinorum leaf, many people fail to achieve more than a mild effect, although few find this method quite satisfactory. In his recent book, in his recent book, pharmacopoia del pendrile indicates that one may need to work with the plant for some time before feeling its effect. The ally she can be shy, sometimes she has to quote del pendrile indicates that one may need to work with the plant for some time before feeling its effects. Quote, the ally she can be shy, sometimes she has to get known, she has to know you for a while before she will come out and say hello, but once she appears are there any who are more direct. End quote. When smoking dry salvia divinorum leaf, it is important that the entire quantity be consumed in one or two large hits if one hopes to obtain significant effects. Smoking it in the matter, one normally smokes a joint, normally produces no more than a mild buzz. Seabird found that the leaves harvested during the warmer months of the year were at least twice as potent as those harvested during the winter. John Grober and the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy and Science recently performed HPLC tests which yielded about 1.5 and 2.2 milligram salvia divinorum leaf, with lower amounts appearing in the stems and traces in the roots. Earlier experiments by Seabird have yielded up to 4.4 milligrams salvia divinorum leaf. The dried leaf equals approximately 13% of the fresh weight. Seabird also describes discovered that when ingesting salvia divinorum, its active compound are absorbed primarily through contact with the oral mucosa. His experiments showed that significant entheogenic experiments were produced by chewing 8-10 large leaves, 3 grams each, fresh weight and holding them in the mouth for 10 minutes, while quickly swallowing the same amount of material produced no noticeable effects. In essence, where salvia divinorum was administered by Azatecan shamans, most westerners who reported definite psychoactive effects were given 50-100 leaves. Reports on the plant's psychoactivity were inconsistent and much of what was absorbed by those who felt its effects may have been through the oral mucosa during the process of chewing and consuming the leaves. Shortly after discovering salbinorum A, A's effects, Seabird sent a sample to David Nicholas who initiated a nova screen receptor site screening. The screening results were in contrast to those of all previously tested psychedelics. Salbinorum A did not affect any of the receptors, receptor sites tested, which included all of the likely known receptor sites for other psychedelics. Dosage and method of administration Salbinorum A can be effectively consumed by inhaling the vaporized crystalline powder or by smoking, providing the crystalline powder has been placed on a substrate such as dried salvia divinorum leaf. Used in this manner, the effects of salbinorum A can be distinctly felt from as little as 200 to 500 micrograms. Most who have tried salbinorum A have reported full effects at a range between 800 and 1200 micrograms. The distinction of full effects is arbitrary as the intensity and diversity of the experience increases with the dosage. It should also be noted that as with any substance, there are a few people who will be usually sensitive to salbinorum A and will require smaller amount to produce the same level of effects. Aught has indicated that salbinorum A can also be taken sublingually and is active in even smaller doses with as little as 100 to 250 micrograms producing noticeable effects. Aught used the 1% solution of salbinorum A in acetone in this sublingual test and also reported that DMSO can be used as a solvent for this purpose. By comparison, the most potent previously known natural psychedelic, 5-MEO-DMT and silicin are typically used in doses of 5 to 10 milligrams. Salbinorum A is approximately 10 times the potency of these compounds and nearly as potent as the semi-synthetic psychedelic LSD. The effects of salbinorum A intensify sharply as the dose is increased, as has been noted by several people who have used over 1 milligram. If you have tried doses around 2 milligrams and had experiences of ferocious intensity which they had no desire to repeat, the largest single dose reported is Siebert's initial smoking of approximately 2 milligrams of salbinorum A. Most of the early experiments with salbinorum A were performed by inhaling the vaporized crystal using the following technique. The salbinorum A was placed on the center of a piece of thick aluminum foil which was heated from below with a butane micro torch or quote jet flame lighter. As the salbinorum A turned to a white vapor, the vapors were inhaled through a 15 millimeter diameter glass tube. This technique requires careful performance. If one inhales before the crystal has been melted, the solid material will be taken into the mouth and will not produce the desired effect. However, if one waits more than a moment after the vapor begins to appear, it will disperse and be lost to the atmosphere. There were several reported misfires from people who were not successful in this procedure. Some of these people suspected the substance was not very potent, increased the dose and were quite shocked by the intensity of what they were subsequently propelled into. I came across a simpler procedure for this process which is to use a conventional oil pipe. A hash oil pipe is made by creating a bubble or bowl at one end and a glass tube with an opening at the top. Although hash oil is no longer commonly available, these pipes can occasionally be found in stores. A hash oil pipe allows better visibility of the melting and vaporizing and better confinement of the vaporized material against escaping without being inhaled. Even with a hash oil pipe, the technique requires precision. The use of micro torch or jet flame lighter is essential, not only due to Salvin Noren A's high boiling point, but also because of conventional lighter will coat the outside of the pipe in carbon, obscuring visibility of the melting vaporization process. I found that the flame must be continually moved over the bottom of the bowl until the material has melted. These torches are hot enough to cause the bowl to quickly expand and buckle if the flame is kept at one point on the bowl. This causes the solid Salvin Noren A crystals to disperse over large area inside the bowl, which does not allow for efficient vaporization. It is important that only self-extinguishing torches or lighters are used in this process as Salvin Noren A takes effect very rapidly. One does not want to be traveling through hyperspace while a lit torch is burning at their side. Recently, Salvin Noren A has been distributed in another form which is much easier to use. The material I have used contained one milligram of Salvin Noren A dissolved onto 25 milligrams of dried and powdered Salvia divinorum leaf. This concentrated formulation is much easier to handle than pure crystalline form. The concentrated formulation may be smoked in a regular pipe using a regular lighter. However, a dedicated pipe should be used for smoking Salvin Noren A, as subsequent smoking of other herbs in the same pipe may induce an unwanted journey. Individual doses can now be responsibly measured on a scale of 100 milligrams, one one-hundredth of a gram resolution, such as the oscentogram quad beam balance. I've prepared one milligram doses of Salvin Noren A by first weighing 50 milligrams of the Salvin Noren A on Salvia divinorum leaf concentrate and then visually dividing this amount into two equal piles. Anyone working with this material should be accurately aware that even small variations in the dose size can produce dramatic increases in the intensity of the experience. Pure crystalline Salvin Noren A requires a sophisticated analytical balance for the measurement of individual doses. I have used the Salvin Noren A on Salvia divinorum leaf formulation several times now and have noticed no difference between this and vaporizing the same amount of material in pure crystalline form. Siebert also performed tests using other methods of administering pure Salvin Noren A. This included placing Salvin Noren A in the mouth and dissolving Salvin Noren A in a solvent and spraying into the nose. The effectiveness of these methods varied widely with repeated applications of the same method. In some cases, a large percentage of the material taken seemed to have its way into the bloodstream. At other times, only minimal effects were produced. This presented a significant risk. If the dose was increased to the point where one would normally achieve full effect, equivalent to smoking one milligram, there was a risk of absorbing a larger percentage of the material which could produce an experience of shocking intensity. This possibility led Siebert to suspend his research in this area. There are currently a number of people in the psychedelic community experimenting with different methods of ingesting Salvia divinorum, including the oral administration of crude extract. It is likely that a reliable method will soon be developed which allows one to experience fuller effects than can be easily obtained through chewing the whole leaves, but without the intensity and sudden onset of smoked Salvin Noren A. Warnings As mentioned earlier, most who have tried Salvin Noren A find these effects extremely unsettling and have no desire to repeat the experience. This response comes from people who are highly experienced in the use of entheogens, including many who are writers and leaders in the psychedelic community, from the 1960s to present. It is unlikely that Salvin Noren A will ever become a popular substance, and many will find using the non-extract plant material more to their liking. In contrast to using pure Salvin Noren A, use of the whole plant material, particularly by ingestion, produces a gentler, longer-lasting experience that many have found easier to absorb and have derived greater benefit from. Used in this manner, Salvin Noren A is also much less overwhelming, and is not likely to present many of the dangers described below. Currently, Salvin Noren A has been used by a relatively small group of people. Information regarding its possible effects on humans is still quite limited, and there is little known regarding the possible toxicity of this substance, particularly at higher doses. Information on the experience of about 50 users has been informally gathered and summarized here. Also presented are some insights of obtained during approximately 30 sessions using Salvin Noren A. The use of Salvin Noren A presents some extreme dangers which are not encountered on other psychedelics. After smoking Salvin Noren A, some users will stand up and begin walking or moving around, running into objects that are in their path. People in this state typically move in an agitated manner and seem to be struggling with the experience. Apparently they have no recognition of their surroundings when this is taking place. This response has been noted in only a few people, about 5% of the first 50 subjects. A more common occurrence is for one who has just smoked Salvin Noren A to not recognize that they are heavily inebriated and begin to walk around. In these instances, the user is able to perceive his or her surroundings and moves around without bumping into objects. Several people in this situation have wanted to leave the premises where they were conducting their journey, desiring to either drive or walk to another location and needed to be dissuaded from doing so. Often people who walk around during the journey do not recall doing so once the effects wear off. The presence of a sober person to an act as a sitter during their sessions has proven very important in dealing with situations such as those described above. Seabird has witnessed reactions of this type of state, quote, when the dose goes above 500 to 1000 micrograms. The effects can be very alarming. I have seen people get up and lunge around the room, falling over furniture, babbling incomprehensible nonsense and knocking their heads into walls. Several people have tried to wander out of the house. When the experience is over, they have no memory of any of this. In fact, they usually remember very different events. To an outside observer, people in this situation have a blank look in their eyes as if no one is present. It is also common for people to have a facial expression which is probably best described as being like that of a frightened animal. There is also potential psychological danger with Salvadoran A. I can confirm from my own experience that it can instantly obliterate any reference to sanity, logic, or even the idea of existing and make one feel that either oneself or the entire universe has gone entirely and permanently crazy. Occasionally, people who have been given Salvadoran A even highly experienced psychedelic users feel that a bad joke has been played on them by whoever gave them the substance. One person who tries Salvadoran A who is quite experienced with DMT and most other psychedelics remarked, quote, it made DMT look like a water pistol at a dose 50 to 100 times less, end quote. The intensity of a Salvadoran A journey is often experienced as being an order of magnitude more potent than smoked DMT, in much the same way that DMT seems an order of magnitude more potent than a typical LSD journey. A large percentage of Salvadoran A users also report that the fear factor is much greater than with DMT, which is saying a lot. I feel that no person, no matter how experienced with other psychedelics or altered states of mind, can be prepared for the intensity of a full-strength Salvadoran A journey. It is common for users to be shocked, amazed, and frightened at finding themselves in a state they cannot possibly conceive of being induced by any psychedelic substance. Certainly the most cautious way for one to approach the substance is to work with the whole plant material without attempting to use its active principle. Effects and Experiences Many who use Salvadoran A spend the peak of their journey lying down or reclining, apparently engrossed in an internal world. At the onset of the experience, there is often a complete separation of consciousness from the body and personality, similar to what occurs with ketamine. What is experienced about this is quite variable, possibly more so than with other psychedelics. The vision seen with Salvadoran A seems particularly real and convincing. Quite often people expect these visions as reality and forget they are under the influence of a psychedelic substance. Siebert has reported on a number of themes which are frequently experienced with Salvadoran A. One, becoming objects, yellow plaid french fries, fresh paint on a drawer, a plant leg, a ferris wheel, etc. Two, visions of various two-dimensional surfaces, films and membranes. Three, revisiting places from the past, especially childhood. Four, loss of the body and or identity. Five, various sensations of motion or being pulled or twisted by forces of some kind. Six, uncontrollable hysterical laughter. Seven, overlapping realities, the perception that one is in several locations at once. There has been little written regarding first-hand experiences with Salvia Divinorum or Salvadoran A. Although recently, reports from individuals have appeared in publications such as the Entheogen Review and on internet bbs such as Alt Drugs. Dale Pendrell is one of the few to have taken a liking to Salvia Divinorum, his book, Pharmaco Pio, devotes an entire chapter to it and offers many poetic insights into the nature of this mysterious ally. Some say it is a sensual and tactile thing. Some say it's about temporary and temporality and dimensionality. That it's about time travel. Some say it's about the root energy network or that it's about becoming a plant. It's like a mirror with no frame. Some don't see it at all. Some do, but don't like what they see. Consciousness has to do with energy and light. It is really very simple. Neither animals nor people have consciousness. It is plants that have consciousness. Animals get consciousness by eating plants. These poems may seem arcane to those not familiar with the Salvia Divinorum experience, but are likely to be easily grasped by those who are. An experimenter who shoots Salvia Divinorum leaf reports in the entheogen review, five minutes of uncontrollable laughter followed by various quote similar, visions quote similar to those of fantasy painting or ancient oriental places, the Alhambra of Grenada, a large almost endless empty hall with beautiful arches and hundreds of columns all in a strange gloomy blue gray light with colors of deep magic and majesty, end quote. This person later went on to feel as if he'd become a tree similar to an oak. He experienced his bark as a sense organ and remarked quote while it was happening, I had no doubt that a tree feels that way, end quote. Subsequent to this his experience changed from entheogen to aphrodisiac. An excellent description of encounters with Salvia Divinorum can be found in a tape by Brett Blosser while on a cave hunting expedition in the Sierra Mazateca in the late 70s. Blosser quite accidentally came upon Mazatecs who used this plant and was able to participate in several sessions with native shaman. He had the opportunity to receive instructions and learn about the plant's use over a span of several years during which he periodically revisited the area. In his tape Blosser described the uses for Salvia Divinorum within the Mazatec culture which includes medicinally to treat both physical and psychic illnesses and in divining the future, the cause or cure for an illness and information about friends, family and enemies. He provides insightful descriptions of his journeys and of the preparation and guidance of his sessions. The curandero who administer Blosser's journey works with psilocybin mushrooms more frequently than Salvia Divinorum and indicated that Salvia Divinorum is too fast for most people. Prior to his extraction research with Salvia Divinorum, Lender Valdez together with José Diaz had taken part in ceremonies conducted by Mazatec shaman during which they ingested leaves from the plant. Valdez reports the following vision in an article appearing in the Journal of Enthio Pharmacology, quote, I see something between a cross and a sword which is covered with gold and has many jewels. It has everything inside, lights, animals, people, plants, everything of many colors like a picture, very very vivid colors, end quote. Valdez characterized his experiences with Salvia Divinorum as involving sensations of, quote, flying, floating, traveling rapidly through space, twisting and spinning as well as heaviness or lightness of the body, end quote. Later that evening Valdez's visions continued. He saw a purplish light that changed into a bee or moth-like shape which became pulsating sea anemono, the imaginary expanded, imagery expanded into a desert landscape full of moving prickly pear cactus shapes. Suddenly he found himself standing in a bizarre landscape with brightly colored flowers talking to a man wearing a shining white robe who was either shaking or holding his hand. Next to him was something that resembled the skeleton of a giant stick model airplane made from rainbow colors colored inner tubing, the reality of what he was seeing amazed him, end quote. The following experience was reported on the internet from a person who had smoked two deep bong hits of dry Salvadoran leaf, quote, there was an edge made of something between plastic and flesh set about a foot in front of my face running diagonally upward to the right. I could touch this edge and it made resistance when I when I did it. Its visual qualities were a bit less intense initially, pastel colors, some glistening. I start to pull at it, peeling it peeling it back and it seemed then that the stuff was simply reality. I collapsed into a couch, closed my eyes and unfolded the folds of this stuff or rather it unfolded me. You know how it goes, very reflexive, a very sensual sexual experience, moist soft and hard at all, it hard all at once or a distinct sense of losing my mental fake faculties one by one in very specific levels until I could not form a thought. Space had become very peculiar, rich with crevices stretching far down past what I could see. At this point I felt uneasy, a voice called up from one of the crevices, quote, do you want to stay like this forever, end quote. I called out no and the voice replied then stop doing that. That I looked I took to mean the salvia then I fused with a piece of furniture, a very odd experience like I was simply the hidden other leg of the furniture, completing the gestulate but in a very immediate bodily way, end quote. A recent issue of the entheogen review reports on one person's journey following the smoking of two dry salvia debonorum leaves consumed in two large hits from a water pipe, quote, I felt like I felt like and saw myself as a tree, branches began growing out of my body, filling up the room and I felt and saw my roots growing all over the floor and onto out beneath the floor. At this point I could no longer remember if I had smoked anything or if my body had just flipped on me. My room had turned into artwork from where the wild things are, a kid's book, the room was a garden of geometric twines and leaves from my own body, end quote. This trip was much more intense than any previous salvia debonorum journeys of this person who also reported seeing entities including, quote, one who was pushed pushing a wheelbarrow along one of my vines while smiling at me, end quote. My own experiments with Salvin Norn A began in December 1994 following a highly coincidental meeting with Daniel Sebert. I first learned of Salvin Norn A when a copy of the entheogen review arrived in the mail containing Sebert's article. The following day I went to Los Angeles on business matters and to visit friends and quite out of the blue was introduced to Sebert by someone I just met that day. The occasion of this unlikely meeting gave me assurance that I was meant to work with this powerful entheogen. Despite Sebert's numerous reports of those who found the journey hero only unpleasant. That takes us to page 23 so we've read this much and what we're about to get into and I'm not sure if we're going to do it right now is Salvadoran Journeys page 23 and these are basically trip reports okay and from the table of contents we're here right now let me show it to you. My just sitting in this position holding the book up is stressing the back for sure right so we've read all of this and we're here right now Salvadoran A Journeys okay so I would like to do this in one shot right so I don't want to start this section yet I would like to do this on another live stream because what this is is basically and I remember these well are different journeys of DM Turner journey number two where he incorporated different psychoactives and theogens with the salvia divinorum journeys but what I will do before we read like we won't read the first journey okay but what we'll do we'll read the intro two pages to it okay two and a half pages to it so you know what will be coming up in the next live stream whenever we end up doing it maybe this week and when I do the next live stream I'll reread these two and a half pages again so we have all of the journeys in one shot okay and then the last bit is just the bibliography right so what I'm going to do is I'm just going to read the two and a half pages for the salvia salinorum a journeys okay starting from page 23 I'm looking for the cool sentences about insta instantly obliterates it does elder god I can attest to it I can attest to it okay and yeah the trip journeys in this and trip journeys that you can read online are quite intense or could be quite intense and mild at the same time salvin orn a journeys my journeys with salvin orn a here after called salvin orn salvin orn are more varied than those of any other psychoactive of use and include include both my best and worst psychedelic journeys my understanding on the content of these journeys have evolved with repeated use certain ideas and perceptions have become clear as I've become familiar with the check with the territory although the entire experience still remains largely in largely incomprehensible and there exists a feeling of having just stepped over the threshold into an immensely vast dimension a description of the general framework of most of my salvin orn journeys is given below followed by excerpts of notes from my journeys also presented are reports from other experimenters journeys which will assist in offering a more comprehensive view of the realms available through salvia divinorum my experiences with salvin orn have can be divided into three phases or periods the onset trans and return these periods closely match the unfolding of a smoke DMT experience initial effects are felt within 20 10 to 20 seconds with the peak being reached in another 30 seconds or so I usually stay at this peak in trance for three to 10 minutes after which there is a 10 to 20 minute decline to baseline when used with another psychedelic the duration of a salvia salvin orn experience can be increased several fold salvin orn comes on with an irresistibly powerful spiraling force which is much stronger than that felt on any other psychedelic during the onset onset I felt I quickly fall into a trance while my body feels permeated by needle-like anesthetic sensations both of these sensations are quite similar to what I feel during the onset of smoke and and DMT within second of this first phase the salvin orn separation m separates my awareness from my body similarly to what occurs with five MEO DMT or ketamine salvin orn is quite distinctive from ketamine however in that like DMT salvin orn ex ex exudes a strongly life positive energy where ketamine does not necessarily have this pre predilection following this I go on an internal journey while my body is lying down in trance my experience or recollection of this second phase varies greatly sometimes I perceive the most cosmic wonderous in detail of universes while and other times I recall absolutely nothing in these moments of recalling nothing I've often felt as though I only smoked the salvin orn a few moments ago and have retained consciousness the entire time I then look at a clock and realize five or ten minutes have passed and I cannot account account for I've developed a theory for this vast difference in experience which I'll discuss later the amount of time I spent in the trance and how high I am upon returning to body bodily awareness varies with each journey it seems that I am normally pulled out of the trance by some type of sound at home this may be a car passing by while out in nature it seems that a bird will chirp or a bug will fly around my head in most instances the sound which pulls me out of the trance seems like a distraction which is interfering with the experience it is not surprising does amasotex recommend that it be done in quiet there is a tendency for awareness to lock onto individual perceptions during the return phase and for these perceptions to appear to be filled to fill the entire universe this has been particularly noted by sebert and myself when music was being played during the trip the portion of the journey immediately following the trance is often the most intense and leaves strongest impression while coming out of the trance the body bodily and aesthetic sensations often persist and are stronger when I come out of the trance prematurely these feelings can be compared to the needles and pins sensation of trying to move an arm or leg which has fallen asleep following one journey I wrote quote I must have willed myself to move and felt that an anesthesia sensation gripping gripping me firmly with an almost cutting sensation it was not exactly painful it felt as though I was tightly gripped by millions of sharpened fingernails applying minimal pressure but if I moved I would be cut to shreds end quote this can also be experienced as a tearing sensation over the entire surface of the body sebert has described intensified feelings of this type of various sensations of motion or being pulled or twisted by forces of some kind one occasion on one occasion these sensations have been very pleasant closer to pendurals like soft cat paws pressing or like a bunch of birds bird tongues lapping the mind or like tiny fingers the way ivy ivy fingers reach out to climb a wall the most constant internal experience in my salvanoran journeys is a drastic drastic shift in my sense of identity and conscious perception at the onset of the experience my identity is completely dislodged from my body and familiar self following this I experience myself as existing but not as a body human or personality I usually find myself in some alternate dimension which can either closely resemble earth or be entirely alien quite often the words visited upon the influence of salvanoran do not obey the laws of psych physics which may which are typically accustomed which we are typically accustomed to the action of the forces of gravity and momentum the dimension of time and the geometric structure construction of these worlds can be rather bizarre there is also an apparent reduction in boundaries and the sensation that my being can literally enter in inhabit various objects including inanimate ones there have been numerous reports from people who have had quite vivid and convincing experiences of becoming objects such as a dresser drawer as I begin traveling these unusual dimensions I feel driven by forces which I don't fully understand but which I believe to be influenced by my set and setting at the point I come out of the trans external reality begins making an imprint on my experience and accelerates the return to normal awareness some of my more interesting journeys are described below and then it goes into the psychedelic trip reports the trip reports that he's written that will wait until we read on a future live stream and just so you guys know where I come from I shared a trip report a while back okay I believe I wrote a trip report that I had with salvia divinorum and let me see when I wrote this it's on my blog and it got accepted on at shroomery and earwhip so it has it is also online available on shroomery and earwhip as well and I called it breaking the master cleanse with Brazilian q benzies and salvia divinorum okay and I'll link this up if you guys want to read a trip report or you can definitely go online I linked up provide the link for this book that is available to be read for free on on ear with and the shroom and and the shroomery and other sites as well okay so that was what I'm sharing there is one of the trip journeys that I decided to write and I've written I have notes on other ones I have done over the years that I got introduced to salvia divinorum like 20 years ago experiment with it quite heavily but this is the one that I decided to write out as a tribute specifically to both the books that dm turner wrote both this book the essential psychedelic guide and this book so this trip report that I wrote is a tribute to dm turner and I decided to share it okay I found the pdf of this book I'm reading with you now awesome elder god awesome quote found it it can instantly obliterate so this is against from something we read it can 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