 And there is Dr. Shabazz, so I'm going to move him over. Oh, good. He's here. He didn't know if he was getting on a plane, so. Oh, wow. I'm so glad he's here. Dedication, huh? Look at you. Are you on the plane, Dr. Shabazz? Got the mask, so I assume. It's like the airport, I think. Maybe not. Maybe it is a plane. It looks clean. Maybe a plane. Wow. Amazing. Okay. That's dedication. That is for dedication. Yeah. You could use internet on the plane. What? I haven't traveled in too long. All right. So I am going to go ahead then. You're recording, right, Jennifer? You said that. Yes. Okay. Excellent. So I'm going to go ahead and call to order the Monday, March 21st, 2022 African heritage reparation assembly meeting. At 4pm pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021. This meeting will be conducted via remote means members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so via zoom or by telephone. No in person attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time via technological means. So welcome everyone. And let me just take a quick peek here to see. Okay. So we don't have any attendees. So this is going to be a very focused meeting today. Thank you all for being here. Sorry about last week. We didn't quite make a quorum for some. Circumstances that were not anticipated. So today we're going to be focusing primarily on the community survey. And I have a town council meeting that begins at 530. And I have to book it from here over to town hall. So I'd like to keep this to an hour. And I think that we can do that if we stay super focused on the survey. So being that there aren't any attendees, I do not need to hold public comment. I don't have any particular announcements other than to congratulate us for. Making the town council's unanimous vote to approve. Giving Paul direction to begin special legislation for us. And I want to thank the members who were able to be there to speak. It was extremely powerful. I think both Hala and Alexis have been quoted now in several media outlets. And I think that's a great question. I think the public comment. I think Alexis statements. I think Alexis statement is, is published in full on the Indy. And if you haven't had a chance to read it, please. Please do. And so if there aren't any other announcements from members, we can move right ahead into. Our work today on the community survey, but I'll just pause for a second to see if there are any other questions. Okay. So last time we met, we talked about developing a community survey that would be used to help us with our engagement and educational process. And in that, since that last time period, the feedback that was given in that meeting was one, we needed to create some objectives. And then we had to look at, we had to look at what we were trying to do for the survey, who we were trying to reach, what we were trying to get from the survey. And then the other bit of feedback was about speaking to the Donahue Institute. And also our wonderful communication staff at the town to see. You know, how, what would be the best way for us to move forward with that work. And then we had to start by giving you an update on some of. The conversations. I had a conversation with curry. Spitzer, who's our representative from the Donahue Institute that's working on the black census. I had a great conversation with her about our community survey. And then I also Jennifer and I had a wonderful conversation with. Oh my God, Brianna Brie. You call her Brie Jennifer. Which is so sweet. And she is the director of communications at the town. And she provided some really excellent information about how we might go forward with this. So, and then in addition to that, I started a document for us that we can use. That is essentially. A beginning of some thoughts around goals and objectives for the survey. And I'll, I'll put that I'll share the screen with you in a second, but first let me just sort of give the basic overview of the conversation that I had with the Donahue Institute. And with Brianna. So speaking with curry at the Donahue Institute. She has actually a background in doing these types of surveys. So it was really useful to speak with her. And I did call her sort of. Informally, so I let her know what we were up to, but not in that we would necessarily be. Hiring the Donahue Institute to do the work with us, but really just to talk with her about her thoughts, given she was already involved in a project with us. I think the biggest takeaway that I got from that meeting is that whatever survey we come up with. We should. Try it out with a small focus group. First, before we send it out to the larger and broader community. I thought that was a really good advice. You know, she says oftentimes the people that are involved in creating the survey, they may not pick up on certain things that if you get it out to some outside folks, they'll say, Oh, well, this language doesn't resonate or. This would be more clear if it was, you know, presented this way. So we can talk about that. That was the biggest takeaway. She was really encouraged that we were doing it. Of course she said the Donahue Institute could certainly help us, particularly around what Hollowhead. Brought forward, I think two meetings or maybe, yeah, a meeting ago about sort of checking to make sure that there wasn't like implicit or explicit bias in the way that we craft the questions and things like that. So I do feel that Kerry could continue to be a resource for us, both on an informal and if needed, formal basis. And then with respect to communications with the town, Brianna really, really outlined what I thought was a fantastic plan for how we might move forward with actually building the survey and then disseminating it out, how we might promote it. And I'm going to show you an example of a survey that's happening right now in town that I think is just done so well. And we sort of agreed, Jennifer and I sort of agreed that probably the best way to do this would be to build it in Survey Monkey, but then Brianna recommends creating a project page on Engage Amherst, which is with the age-friendly and dementia group is doing and it's beautiful. And I'll share that with you when we do that. But that's a lot of words. So let me pause and see if there are any questions or comments so far. I think that what you said so far is great, but I don't have enough information in terms of what kind of survey you're thinking about or what kind of survey we should be thinking about in terms of doing. And in my experience, well, not what I would like to see. And this is something that I consider to, you know, just something that I would personally like to see is a randomized representative sample of the African-American community here in Amherst. And the reason that I say that is that if it's randomized and it's a representative sample, then it is something that once established, that sample can be used again and again and again, sort of like the Gallup poll. And it would give us an idea of the overall thoughts, feelings, reactions to et cetera in relationship to reparations and also to our work. It would just be remarkably informative. Okay. And Irv, so when you just to clarify for myself and maybe for others, a randomized representative sample, that sounds like something we would want to get some help with in terms of once the black census is completed. Is that your sound? Exactly. And Carrie would know exactly what I'm talking about and how to go about doing it. It doesn't mean you can't do an other survey, other surveys, and you can use both surveys as to compare one against the other. And the reason for a representative and randomized is that people who would be a part of this are people who would have been tipped almost out of a hat. And Carrie knows how to do that. And therefore it's representative of the population of Amherst. That representative sample may only be 10 to 20% of the, from five to 20%, but Carrie again could do that sampling, that sampling process. Now, obviously the other way of doing this, which is less scientific, and I'm using that word in a way, is that you could just do a survey of everyone to get their opinions. And that has merit also. It does not mean that it does not have merit, except that the only shortcoming is not a shortcoming. There's something like if you see in a dissertation or research paper it says the study is limited by X. So that survey would be limited because it's not representative. So it would only represent the people who are speaking, not the entire community. Okay. Yeah, that is really great. I'm taking thorough notes here so that when I speak to Carrie again, I have this information. And what it has me thinking is, I think at least in my thinking the survey, at least one of the surveys that we would do would go cross demographics. So everybody in the community, regardless of race or other identifying factors would be able to participate. But I think what you're saying about the randomized representative sample survey of the African heritage community is really powerful. And I do think Carrie has a lot of experience with that. So, okay. Any other comments before I just start to share my screen here. Comments or questions. All right. Great. So, oh, Alexis. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, you're good. Okay. One second. I'm going to share screen. And hopefully everyone can see the screen. If you could just give me a thumbs up if you can see. Okay, great. And this is really just to get us started with this conversation. So I'll just quickly go through it. So goals to guide and inform the survey so far that I've. Yeah, Sarah. So the goals that we have here. Jada down here are first to determine the community's understanding of the historical context and meaning of reparations. So how do community members define reparations? You know, there are lots of different ways that people define reparations. What do community members know about the historical injustices and crimes perpetuated against people of African heritage. What do community members know about the history of reparations in the U.S. A second objective is to learn about the community's engagement with the R for a research reports and perspectives on reconciliation. So have community members read the research reports published by our for a about the history of anti-black racism in Amherst. And the current day black white disparities. What reactions to community members have to these reports, whether it's the racial injustices in Amherst and or their own lived experience. What perspective perspectives do community members have about the reconciliation process and who should be involved. And then of course an objective would be to promote HRH charge online and at community events. So this would be a tool to engage community and identify community members and organizations that want to be more deeply involved. So I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I just have here lead stakeholders to be recruited. So we talked about recruiting stakeholders in various segments of the community to promote and distribute the survey to translate the survey when necessary. And to serve as interview participants and recruiters of additional people to be interviewed. And then the methods of for publication and distribution. I'm going to show you here the age. So this is the engage Amherst page. For the age and dementia friendly Amherst community project. This is a survey that's currently happening. They've really done a fantastic job. I encourage you to take a look at this. You can see here they have cover letters in English. In Spanish, in Portuguese. They have a number to call for Korean and Chinese. And I'm sorry, how's that? Come here. Jennifer. Oh, you're not there. So, and then there are hard copies available as well at the banks community center as well as the Jones library. They're holding listening sessions. They will be holding them. And it's just a really wonderful, wonderful organized project and a model really, I think they did work with a specialist in survey, creation and promotion, I believe. So that certainly helped. But you can see here if I click on their, their, their letter, their letter clearly outlines the objectives for their survey. It gives a link to the survey. It tells you where hard copies can be found. And provides contact information for translation. And then the survey itself. You are welcome. Actually, it's being encouraged that community members take the online survey, but just to click on it, you can see it was built in survey monkey. And you just kind of move through it. And then everything's captured. And in our case, Jennifer would be, would be building that for us in survey monkey and capturing and securing all of the data. So I'm going to pause there and just see if there are any thoughts about the objectives. And if these seem like we're heading in the right direction, if we need to add or subtract or whatever. And I see that your hand is upper. Yes, I mean, all of those objectives are really good. So like everything else that devils into details. And the details here are constructing a survey. That would be able to capture those objectives. In a way that would allow the community to respond in a meaningful way that we could use in terms of information. So it's, it's, it's the challenge always isn't this kind of thing is constructing the survey instrument itself. Yeah, absolutely. Dr. Shabazz. Yes, I can you hear me. Yes. Yes. So what I would encourage on the second item is, rather than to specify, what have they learned or engaged with in relation to reparations for Amherst reports, I would just more generalize that. And perhaps point as well to the AHRA website, the town website that contains all of the variety of reports inclusive of our for a inclusive of our work as an assembly, inclusive of other materials and just sort of generalize that particular objective area rather than to say specifically for this or for that source. Excellent. Okay, that's great. And that's really a good thinking about pointing to the resource page on the AHRA site with research reports. And we can add in the link here. And I don't know that this document by the way is for external use as much as it is for our use. But I think it's important for us to be really clear here. So I really appreciate that Dr. Shabazz. And I wasn't sure if like this in second kind of sub bullet what reactions do community members have and we can change that to reports resources. You know, that's a big that's a big question and depending on who's responding to the survey, you know, they're going to either have their own lived experience. They're going to have experience that they've learned from friends, family members, colleagues, or they're going to have read something that enlightened them. So, Alexis. Okay, I'm sorry. I was a little bit distracted because I've, I've been in two, like literally three meetings at once. But so I guess I'm wondering like it. I feel like I need just a little bit. I don't know. I don't know, but it feels like something, something is missing only because. Like, you know, I'm trying to be really clear about the information that we're trying to get right. Like when we, when we're talking about the communities understanding, we're talking about the entirety of Amherst, or we talking about the black community or the African-American community of Amherst, you know, and I'm, I know that these answers are going to be different. But I guess I'm wondering, you know, what are we then going to do with the disparity of answers and then, you know, what answers are like extremely important for us to, to understand. Like I, I think that we have an under a general understanding of reparations being on this committee, knowing all of the different facets in which anti-blackness affects, you know, African-American life. But, you know, are we like, is it to get to what Dr. Rose was saying, you know, the beauty or like the real, the real stuff is kind of in the details. And I, I wonder if it's worth it to really sort of dive a little bit deeper rather than saying something so like, like it feels like how does the community define reparations? I feel like it's almost too broad. And I almost want to say like, how does the community define reparations in terms of housing, in terms of healthcare, in terms of schooling, in terms of, because like it's, it's almost like too broad for me. Yeah, I don't know. That's my half-baked, half-baked idea. No, that's really, that's really good. And I think I've heard a lot of conversations that relate to reparations where the word community is used and the question arises, are we talking about the harmed community or are we talking about the whole community? And so I do think we need to be clear about that in, I know in Provincetown, or not in Provincetown, in Provincetown, in Providence, Rhode Island, they did a wonderful survey. I think Dr. Shabazz led me to that one there. And they actually, when they, so a couple of the first questions in the survey were to respond to your particular demographics, how you identify. And then they actually, when they got the data, when they looked at the data, they pulled out the data. They did it white versus BIPOC, but we could do whatever, you know, if we wanted to pull out the African heritage data specifically, so we can see how the African heritage community, the harmed community is looking at these things versus the broader community. And I think, you know, my sort of my suggestion was going to be that once we sort of ground ourselves with this, with the objectives and goals that we either form a subcommittee to begin building the questions, like diving deeper, as you said, Alexis, or we continue to meet as a full group if we can do that, which I would prefer if that's possible. Or if your hand is up. Yes. And it comes back to, there are two things. One, what are the objectives in terms of the use of data that is received from the survey? Because if you understand the objectives of how you're going to use the data, it more importantly informs the questions that you ask. And that always has to be kept in mind, because it's sort of like the whole thing, whole thing in research is garbage and garbage out. So what you really want to be careful, what you really want to know upfront for yourself, for us, for the AHRA, how do we wish to use the data that we collect? How is that going to inform the decision-making non-owner of AHRA, but also the perception of the town and relationship to reparations? Those are very important things that we really need to consider. The second thing, my look back down, look down the list of the objectives, and I see that they learn about the community, engagement with research reports, et cetera. And obviously, when I look at that, I say, all right, that's great, but that obviously can't be a part of the survey because you really want to know if they've actually know anything about the reports, et cetera, et cetera. If you include your report in the survey and you have them read it, then that defeats the purpose of the question. Yeah, that makes sense. So I wonder if we did decide to include our resources page, which as Dr. Shabazz said, includes those research reports plus other resources that we've gathered, what we're really trying to get at is what people's reactions are and how they see, I think, the reconciliation process, what are the injustices, and Hala, I see that your hand is raised, so I'm going to stop. Oh, it was, you could finish. I was just saying you can have a separate question if the material was read and then have a question or two so that we can include both groups, some who won't have the time or to read the things and others who will, so the questions could be separate and then stored, the data could be stored differently. Yeah, absolutely. Jennifer, I still see Irv that your hand is up. I'm going to go to Jennifer first. Jennifer. I was just thinking maybe you could have a line that refers people to the resources and then ask the question so it could be listed as if you've read the materials, what are your thoughts, and then if you haven't, here they are, and then ask what your thoughts are or something similar to that. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. Go ahead, Irv. Just to remember, the more material in a survey that people have to read and then react to, at least in my experience, the less people will want to go and take the survey because it then takes up a lot more of their time. You want to survey that simple to understand, simple to react to, and it does not take up a lot of the person's time. I mean, when I get a survey, if it's any more than five minutes to my time, forget it. I don't want to do it because it involves too much. But on the other hand, you know, I've been involved with surveys that do, in fact, say, hey, read this and then react to it. Now, am I happy doing a survey like that? No. But there are surveys that are like that. Yeah, it seems like we shouldn't make that the sort of primary focus. It's more about like what have, what do you know from your own lived experience and what you've heard or from what you've learned, whether it's from a research report or something that you learned elsewhere, you know, I think providing the link, if people do want to respond to it, they can go ahead, Alexis. Yeah, I was just thinking, as Dr. Rose was saying that, like, well, first of all, I took the agent dementia quiz. And for something that's supposed to be about agent dementia, it's 74 questions long. And so I'm, I was like, wow, for like, I can't imagine someone who actually has dementia, like taking this, right? Yeah, they forgot to take the survey. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I don't know this. I can hear somebody's thing on, but so it was, it was making me think a lot about like that. And God bless this work because it needs to be done, you know, but it's like, I, I'm thinking exactly of what Dr. Rose is saying and thinking about, I, like, I know that people are going to be sharing their opinions, knowing that they are unformed, uninformed, but I think that, you know, even just the people who are willing to show up to like the brown bag thing, for example, like are saying like, oh, I'm uninformed about the subject. And so I, da, da, da, da. And so I'm wondering if there's a value in, in having, in, in knowing how much of our community is completely uninformed about this subject. And then I think that if we can, I don't know, get some sort of demographics about that. Then I think we might actually have an idea of what neighborhoods are, you know, well, I, I, yeah, I think that there, there might be some important demographics in terms of just who is completely uninformed about this subject because I know for a fact that there's going to be people who are going to, regardless of whether or not they read the thing, they're going to be saying their opinions. And so even that I feel like it's not what we're asking for, but I feel like that is still, that's reality and that's valuable information in the end. So I think that I, I'm almost thinking, is it worth it to have a question about like what people would be willing to engage with? So like, you know, when we talk about like if, if we were to ask people, you know, like, oh, what is like a rep, you know, a reparative, you know, whatever, if they say like workshops, you know, and they say like, oh, it'd be great if there are some workshops, you know, it's not going to mean anything if they're not actually willing to attend them. So I don't know, I think that maybe having some sort of thing about like, what is, what is the best way to get out and from, well, okay, I don't know. I don't know. Something about how, how are we reaching people? How are we, how are they receiving information? And what is the best way to engage them with this information? I don't know something like that. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So I kind of see that almost like down on the third objective. Like it's not just a tool to engage the community, but it's actually trying to like figure out how we might, how people might engage with this work and this body of research and knowledge and lived experience that's out there. Yeah. Yeah. I really like that. Yeah. Yeah. Pour myself having. Conducted surveys and constructive surveys. I. Really think that it would be invaluable. To get carry in on this in relationship. To. Constructing a survey. She has a huge amount of expertise. And, and, and that whole Donny. As soon as a huge amount of expertise then. Constructing surveys of all kinds. And they would be really helpful. To us. So I think, you know, if just we're coming back to the budget that we have available to us right now. There was a holdover from last year. Excuse my dog in the background. There was a holdover from last year of approximately, I think at least $6,000. I think we've only used about a little over half of that. For our black census work so far. So if the group would like me to get a formal. Quote or proposal, I guess that it would be called from. Curry since I've already had a preliminary discussion with her. We're having this discussion. It's not going to hurt or cost us anything to get a proposal. To see what would it cost. For curry and the group that she works with. To help us. Build this. So we could. I don't even think that we really need to take a motion to do that. If folks are inconsistent. We would need to make a motion to approve it if we got one, but to get it, I don't think we need to. Yes, or. You know, the thing is if there are, you know, there are definitely going to conduct over funds when that's 6,000. And even, even that, if we really need it more. We do have access to other funds. Yes. We do. I've sort of been thinking about that $206,000 as like. Funds that. We would build on to actually. Direct reparation benefits. But I think like we talked about from the very beginning of this process, we do need money to make this happen too. So I agree with you, or that. Yes, Alexis. I guess I'm wondering if, and this is like, no, like this is, this is just me bringing this up out of the blue. Is it a part of our mission at all as the AHRA that when we are employing or hiring or paying for services, are we intentionally trying to look to hire black folks? Oh, sorry, I was muted. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, if there are black people or black groups, black consultants around that have the rep, the record was the skills to be able to do what we need to do. Of course. You know, and we can ask the same question of Donahue and relationship to their staff in terms of minority status with those can, but of course, I mean, you want to get the information and data and you want the people who are well trained who are able to do this. So and if they're out there and they're black, brown or whatever, if they're out there, which I assume there are people within the Amherst community, you know, given that we have the University of Massachusetts and the various departments who specialize in this, that there have to be individuals out there who can do this kind to build this kind of survey. We just need to find if that's going to be a crack. We can find them. We can find them and if not, we can have the Donahue as to subcontract with them. And the reason for subcontracting with them because some folks may not have the financial ability or corporate or other kind of ability to do this on their own and float to work without and wait for their payment to come, whereas Donahue could. Yeah. And I, you know, I was just pulling up the Donahue Institute because I had learned, I thought from Carrie and maybe I'm not remembering this correctly, that I thought the new executive director of the Donahue Institute was, did identify as African American and was What's his name? I don't know. And that's why I'm trying to look here. And I can't remember who told me this. And of course it's you never know how somebody identifies. So it looks like. Okay. It looks like this is the new executive director. But what I learned, whether it was from Carrie or somebody else is that somebody in the top leadership at Donahue Institute was very, very interested in our project in particular because they identified as African American and wanted to do more work in that area. So I have to remember or ask Carrie where, you know, where's my mind? Where did I get that information? And maybe I'm just mixing it up with something else, but I pretty sure it was here. So, but to the point, I think that, that Carrie might be a good resource for us to just ask that question to are there any African Americans in the team that you're on or the other teams at the Donahue Institute that could work, that could be assigned to this particular body of work. Or we can put and we end or we can put the word out to see if other folks know of African Americans. I'm not sure what people feel about staying local in terms of hiring consultancies or moving beyond the local area. I do wonder if our new crest director and I don't know when our DEI director, Jennifer is set to come if we don't have, we haven't gotten that far yet. But yeah, so, so with that in mind, would a good next step be for me to speak with Carrie and see, ask that question and then also just ask for a light proposal based on what we've talked about to see just what they would come up with in terms of how they might be able to help us. Exactly. I agree. How about Holla and Alexis, does that seem reasonable? Okay, great. And so just I, Alexis, thank you so much for taking that age friendly and dementia survey. I have been trying to get to it. And wow, 72 questions. I mean, it's a beautiful survey. I can already tell, but it's like, that's a lot. Did you take it, Jennifer? Yeah. I have copies here. Okay. Yeah. It's a lot. And that is one of the things that concern me. And the other thing is when you have surveys that have that many questions and you kick out three other, you know, like there's other surveys from the town coming out, you know, I think that's one of the things that, to me gets to be a lot for folks. Absolutely. So we want to be mindful of that. Yeah. I guess part of it is just how we deliver it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll be curious how they do the listening sessions as they move forward with that. And I think that your idea, I keep coming back to your idea, Jennifer, over and over about recruiting stakeholders from sub communities. To promote and distribute the survey. I think that that is really the best. I mean, we all listen to the people that we love and respect in our communities. And so if we can figure out how to do that. You know, one of the things that I just wanted to get general consensus on from this group is that. You all have a comfort level with Jennifer and I sort of in between meetings, doing some of this kind of brainstorming and things to bring back to the group. Because some of this like to, to figure out. You know, oh, Jennifer, go ahead. So Chris is going to do something very similar where we'll have ambassadors from the actual communities and neighborhoods that we're trying to reach out to the most. So could use it as an example, or perhaps we could work together. That'd be fantastic. Yeah. Absolutely. So. If it did other than what we've talked about, this is sort of a good starting point. It sounds like I will send this to Carrie when I ask her to work on a proposal. If there's anything that we still have a little time here. I don't think we have anyone in the audience. Jennifer, do we have anyone in the audience? I can't tell when I'm sharing the screen. Okay, so we will want, I'm going to actually pause and just call for public comment so that we make sure that we do get to that. So let's see here. During the public comment period, the chair will recognize members of the public when called on, please identify yourself by stating your full name, pronouns and residential address. Residents are welcome to express their views for up to three minutes at the discretion of the chair based upon the number of people who wish to speak. The HRA will not engage in a dialogue or comment on a matter raised during public comment, but we will listen carefully. So if you would like to offer public comment, please do raise your hand now. I'm going to stop this for a second. And excellent. And Jennifer will let L M. I think it's Lauren Mills, but we'll find out. And. Yes. Hi. Good afternoon. Yes, Lauren Mills. I'm 12 long metal drive. She her pronouns and I just have a short question. Thank you for all your work. First of all, and my question to the HRA would be what is the specific timeframe and people that the HRA is trying to bring forward to address this too. That would just be very clarifying. And thank you. Thank you, Lauren. And I just, I really want to. Just acknowledge the communications that I have received. And I think. Jennifer moisten has received from Lauren and. Just really acknowledge and honor all of the thought that Lauren has put into our work. And one of the things that we need to really do soon is to. Decide about additional resources to go on to our website. And put them into a format that we can vote on to get them on. And I think Lauren has provided some really wonderful resources that I would like to see go in there. So thank you, Lauren. We will, I've written down your question. And yes, sir. So I just want to make sure I get this out there because I forgot to say it. In terms of finding an African American relationship to doing the survey. One has to keep in mind that we have. Huge school of your university in Massachusetts. And there are students, doctoral students who are coming to the end of their studies. Who are searching for a research topic. As I was. You get near the end of your coursework. You say, Oh my God, I got to do. And this may be a research topic. Where the person would be able to come in and help. In relationship to the survey. Again, the Donnie UN Institute would have. Definitely have access to those students. And I'm assuming that they're already on staff or their consultants too, or whatever. To the Donnie. Yeah. Okay. So I'll make sure that I. Or maybe what I'll do if it works for you is I'm going to draft an email to go to carry and I'm going to send it to you. If you could just review it and make sure that I've covered all the points. If everyone's okay with that. And then I'll get it out to curry. And then hopefully by the time we meet again, she is so wonderful in terms of her turnaround time. We'll be able to bring some answers back to the group. At our next meeting. Yes, definitely. We'll do. Awesome. Okay. Any other comments or thoughts right now about. The community survey. Let me just see if I make sure I covered everything. So in terms of upcoming agenda items. And meeting schedules. We're, we've definitely been having challenges finding the right items. So I'm going to finish your sentence. I just, can you email me what you shared on your screen? Because I need to incorporate that into a packet somehow. Yes. And then when you're ready, I, there are community events that I think it would be helpful that the AHRA attend membership wise as community members, not, you know, not to be in the community. So I think that that would be helpful as well. Yes. Let's. So why don't we do this with a bit of time we have left. Let's talk quickly about our schedules and meeting and our cadence for meeting and all of that kind of thing. And then Jennifer will make the announcements about the upcoming events. And also to say thank you for those of you who are able to be in the community. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think everybody here was, and it was really, I think it was really great. I got a lot of great feedback from that. And it was a good opportunity for us to just share with folks, what we were doing. So I look forward to doing more of that. So in terms of scheduling. Is this time. A good time. For folks. I think it's just better than Thursday. Yeah. This is definitely the best time for me. Any other time during the week. Is a no go. Okay. And how early on Mondays can you meet her? What's the earliest time you can start meeting? Not before breakfast. Okay. But like three o'clock you can do. Okay. Three o'clock. Okay. So, but basically the afternoon. What about you? Is your schedule on Mondays in the. Good. Okay. Alexis. I will just say that. It's tight for me. Because I have another meeting. At 4pm. But that's only for the rest of like the semester, like once the students leave, I won't have that. So I think that's the best time for me to start meeting. I think that's the best time for me to start meeting. So. If we could do it before four, that would really help me out. Especially because after four, I'm running the town council meetings and today it's like at 530. So it's a little bit of a crunch time. Yeah, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So if we, if we need to do it on a Monday, if it could be before four. That would be really helpful for me. Great. Yeah. That works really well for me too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that generally Mondays were good. So Yvonne was away this week. Yvonne did plan to come last week at 430. So I just want to note that. I feel badly we had to cancel, but it happens. And Yvonne did say that they are available to come next week. But they had to check times. So it sounds like maybe. 430 to 330. Our meetings like our hour, hour and a half better than getting into those longer. For me, it seems like when we focus, we do better than when we have like 10 things to do over a longer meeting and we get tired. Great. Okay. Okay. type thing. So I will check with Ivan and Dr. Shabazz. I know that Jennifer means that that's in the middle of your sort of normal work day. And it's a Monday, which also, I think, I mean, the night meetings are, you know, so I think that's a good point. And the lesser of clue, as they say dinner at a reasonable time, you know, right. All right, so I'll send an email about that. If we can try to meet next Monday, the 28th, hopefully we'll have some information to bring back if I can. I can even try to see if curry is available to join with us. I do have the folks from the stolen beam series set to come I think it's April 4. That was a request of the HRA. I'm going to also ask Matthew Andrews who has an educational program that he would like to offer. So I'll kind of put those all together in that meeting for folks who we want to talk to about educational programs. I will note that the Jones library reached out to the stolen beam folks at the JCA asking if they could run a stolen beam program through the Jones. I requested to devora and Jeff, who are the keepers of that body of work that they ask the Jones if we could do that in partnership if we do indeed decide to use that as one of our educational tools because I think it will be more helpful and clear for the community, as opposed to having, you know, one thing happening over at the Jones that we may also be doing I think we'll be able to sort of get more people involved. If we're reaching out to our constituents both through the Jones and through our own channels. So that so I'll have more information about that. Yes, or are we talking about 230 next week Monday. Yes, the 28th. Great. Okay, so just keep an eye out for the time though because it will be either 230 or three I'm going to check with Yvonne and Dr Shabazz and just make sure to see what works for them. And, and, and we'll go from there. And this will mean a tight turnaround for Jennifer to get a meeting posted so I'll make sure I get, you know, everything over to her. And if there are no other questions or comments. I'm going to wait one more moment to check. Everyone meet Earl Miller. Oh, Miller. This is the AHRA. Hi, Earl. He was just there in the background source like we might as well just introduce some. Congratulations and welcome. We're very excited to have you. I will let him know that you said that. It'll teach him to walk behind stand. Yeah. All right, great. So any other comments or questions before we go. Thank you. This is really productive. Thank you so much for being here. And, and we will see you I'm journeying at four 54pm. Bye.