 recently are serving somewhere? No sir, I am not one. Have you served somewhere? No sir. Student speaker, what is this forensic exposition? Sir, I have done my graduation in forensic science. So, we had a exposition conducted by our university in which we opened up how forensic investigation and evidence is catered to in the labs to majorly college and school students as well as to personnel from the Mumbai police. Sir, it is actually forensic physics and because forensic science is the applications of science and criminal justice system. So, physics and chemistry all of it which has components which is helping in solving crimes. For example, in chemistry we learn toxicology and in physics we learn ballistics of weapons. See, judicial reforms, there is a lot of scope of all types of reforms in the country. There is police reforms, election reforms, judicial reforms. For judicial reforms, some months, months tax are being taken. Do you remember the last few days or months what tax have been taken or by the Supreme Court it is? Sir, firstly, incorporation of technology. For example, soupace was recently launched when AI was used to club cases together for speedy disposal and there has been concerns of delay in appointment of judges. So, recently the Collegium has also passed more number of judges and sent it to the government. Has it been sent to the government? Yes sir, today it has been sent. Yes sir, and it includes three women judges. It has been sent to the... I am sorry sir, I have not updated in the recent news and in the morning when I read this, this was what? Sir, other than that the... Sometime the Supreme Court has given shine slots of different advocates on the respondent side, I guess on the side. Because the senior advocates and the staff speaking they speak for hours. I am sorry sir, I am not aware of this I will have to read on it. Okay, and now again I think I am understanding that the government has started a system of giving alerts that alert, green alert, like that. No sir, I don't understand. But it is a tendency to do on the basis for many number of times. Now government has started a system of giving this alerts. It is three times green signal, more than three times orange than red signal. Okay sir, thank you sir. Robin Hood Army, you would have heard of? Yes sir, I have heard of it. Sir, it works as an NGO wherein they cater to people who are not very privileged and they provide them with food and as well as other things like clothes. Now they are starting from another initiative other than food. Vaccination? Sir, I was not aware of the vaccination. Because this Robin Hood Army I think is mostly Maharashtra? Yes sir, they are active in Maharashtra as well. Some tribunals have been abolished. Yes sir. How many? Just seven tribunals have been abolished. Yes sir. And sometime back the government issued an ordinance for abolishing those tribunals and some other qualifications that we had adopted. Which was held void by the tribunals. And same act has been passed. All those tribunals act has again been passed. I don't know. What is the tribunals about it? Sir, the Chief Justice of India has mentioned that because they do not have the the bill was passed without due debates and discussions. The intention of the government is not known to the courts. So they raised concern in how the bill was passed. And now it is again being challenged in the court. So it will further give it. The nomination of MNC is in Maharashtra. Yes sir. How is the news? Some MNC is, I think Chodner has powered to nominate some MNC to the Maharashtra. Legislative concept. Yes. There is some controversy on that. Sir, I have to read out the controversy. I am sorry. Okay. On this day, all the CMs will take something about it. We are going to do this policy. We are going to do this. Anything that is told by Maharashtra seems. Sir, I have to read about it. Yes, City. Yes, sir. It is the International Financial Place. It is in Kandinagar. So the financial institutions there cater to the businesses which are not present in India. For example, the international financial companies. Also, the businesses can take the same. Yes, sir. Okay. You, in the second we are referring to the interview. Yes. Last time, who was the deputy? Sir, I scored 160. 160. What do you understand? The rule of law. Sir, rule of law was given by Amy Dicey. And he conceptualized that law has to be equal for all. And nobody should be kept above the law. And anyone, if they are punished, it should be based on a clear legal provisions. Is it being strictly followed in India? Yes, sir. I believe it has been strictly followed in India. We have proper laws, the IPCC, CRPC as well as different legislations based on which people have been convicted. And if not, they have been acquitted also, sir. What is rule by law? Sir, rule by law. It was recently in discussion when the Chief Justice of India also mentioned it. It is when the power is with the rule makers and the law is made on whims, not based on core principles of rule of law. So, it is mostly followed in, it causes arbitrariness in law because it is dependent on the whims and fancies of law makers. Now, rule by law makes, but it is strictly made in a high level. So, firstly, Krishi Udan and Krishi Rain, there were agricultural reforms so that perishable substances can be moved from place to place. See, what they say, Krishi Udan, that is interesting. What is that? Sir, Krishi Udan tries to ensure perishables are moved through aircraft so that there can be faster disposal of... Is it being done anywhere? Sir, I would have to check if it has already been implemented. I am not aware of that. Sir, the national infrastructural pipeline was also mentioned in the budget. It was proposed earlier also, but it was sanctioned in this year's budget wherein 100 crore infrastructural projects were to be proposed. And sir, in taxation reforms, it was said that... How about the health sector? How can it be the health sector? I am sorry, sir. 35,000 crores were assigned for vaccination and there was also a proposal for an Ayushman Atmanirbar Bharat Health Program. Is this 1000 crores for vaccination? Sir, 35,000 crores. What is gender budgeting? Sir, gender budgeting is... The idea is to look at the provisions in a budget through the lens of gender on how any policy that we are taking, how it impacts the genders differently. In India, it was started in 2005. And presently, there are two provisions. There are party and party. Party looks like schemes specifically for women. For example, Janani Siraksha Yojana. And party looks at... In all schemes, there should be some amount specified for women. For example, in Mandrega also, women are key beneficiaries. Very good. You are after police also, right? Yes. Second, yes. Do you know any ex-police commissioner who is very high? Yes, sir. Julia Rubero and Rakesh Madhya Sir. But today, what is happening? Represent one or two cases? Yes, sir. Recently, we saw the case of Mumbai Police Commissioner, which was a sorry state of affair. There have been concerns of politicization of the police force. And cases of corruption. Which is why police reforms need to be taken very seriously. And there needs to be a strong political will to ensure that the Prakarsing Judgement case is also implemented in letter and in spirit. You remember Prakarsing is an accommodation. Any measure? Yes, sir. Just tell me two measures. Any more report now? Yes, sir. First is law and order and investigation has to be separated. He also talks about institutionalizing a police complaints authority so that people can complain against police, a police establishment board so that the police is isolated from political interference in their appointments. And a state security commission as well to again safeguard the police. And also to fix a tenure for the DGP for two years at least. What do you think of the encounter thing? Sir, it showcases a real rot in the system, in the entire criminal justice system because there is an acceptance for this culture from the people because they think that justice is otherwise very delayed. So this is seen as instant justice. And even the police who undertake such fake encounters, they are not really convicted for this crime. Which is why it is a crime that is perpetuated. So I think the solution would be to first spread this, train the police that this is wrong and ensure forensic science is up to date so that we would not need to use such third degree methods for getting instant crime. As well as civil society also needs to be guided that this is wrong and it should not be given societal acceptance. Last question. You still keep track of happenings in Badakartanam. Yes. So they were connected recently. Who bought from Badakartanam and lost? Sir, Esh, Rida and Sir, who was known as the Metro man fought from Badakartanam. Thank you. So what inspired you to take this policy science? Ma'am, when I was in class 11, where we have to take this lecture, I had biotechnology as one of my subjects and most of the principles that we learnt for forensic science had it, its application was in forensic science and we had a introductory chapter to forensic science as well, which stoked up my interest and I read a little bit more about it and I was searching on how I can pursue a degree in it and I found it in Mumbai itself, so then I found it. So you have been living in Kerala also, have you lived in Kerala or do you keep on going to Kerala, visit Kerala? Sir, ma'am I do visit Kerala. So if you have to compare Kerala and Mumbai with respect to law and order, so what will be your view? Ma'am, Mumbai because it's a financial capital, the NCRB says that most of the crimes there are financial and economic crimes, whereas in Kerala also we see that there is a high reporting of crimes against women, it could also be because the awareness amongst the women in Kerala is more and the police is more citizen friendly, so we see that crimes against women are also in the right and there are other social crimes also that happen in Kerala which we do not see happening a lot in Mumbai, for example we see more of dowry that's which was recently in use in Kerala which because Bombay is more urbanised and cosmopolitan we do not find such cases there and I think if we draw positives I think both the police forces, Mumbai police force as well as Kerala police force has been always viewed as a very citizen centric police force and there is a level of trust in both these places with the police so I think law and order is not a major issue in both these areas So can you tell us something new which is happening in forensic science? Ma'am forensic science keeps evolving as technology is also adapting a recent one would be a video spectral comparator where in forgery cases are easily through this instrument we can see an overwriting we can see any sort of forgery in the notes as well which is something that has recently been developed and is being used widely abroad and even India has certain labs where this provision is in touch DNA is another prominent thing because earlier we needed blood or bones to extract DNA now we can take it from skin cells so even if I touch a bottle my DNA could be extracted from that area which has revolutionized how evidence is gathered other than that ma'am I think far I am sorry ma'am Any famous case which has been solved due to forensic science? Ma'am forensic science may not have directly helped in solving but corroborative evidence even in Nirbhaya case we saw that the youngest persons due to the bite marks which is a part of forensic odontology they could nail the fact that that person also was involved in the crime against the world other than that the Nithari cases in which the bones were mapped to showcase how many victims were there that was also a big achievement for forensic science in India the Sheena Bora case is also another case a DNA tracing showcase that there was a lineage between the two Now coming to public administration you know what is GEM? Yes ma'am it is government e-market So what is the purpose of GEM? Ma'am at present government procures many utilities and this is an online platform in which government directly procures from the sellers and another advantage of this GEM is first of all it brings transparency and it is also mandated that around 25% of it has to come from MSMEs so it brings a streamlining of government procurement So if you are in the administration if you have to buy something for your office so would you prefer a private vendor or would you go in for GEMs? Ma'am GEM also if I am not mistaken has private vendors participating in GEM I would go through GEM because this portal ensures that we could get the best prices we can compare the prices and also gives an opportunity for smaller players to also rise to the occasion so in administration we should promote such smaller players which is why I would choose GEM Does it also checks corruption? Yes ma'am because there is an online track of everything there are chances of corruption also reduces and as I mentioned transparency is there in the sanction so it does help in preventing corruption So in your hobby is watching TED talks So what is the full form of TED? Technology, entertainment and design So any TED talk which has inspired you? Ma'am there was one talk by Sheryl Sandberg who is the CEO of Facebook in which she talks about why we have such few women leaders which I feel is very inspiring because she talks about how there is a glass ceiling for women and they do not become leaders and she talks about what women should also do there are many changes that has to come from institutions but as women she says that we are very we try to hide our potential we feel that we ourselves also try to limit our potential and so she was talking about how women do not negotiate for a proper salary which men can do with ease So she mentions stories from her organization as well as others and why I find it inspiring is post that TED talk she also set up organizations in different countries where now women are raising a voice to have equal pay in different organizations She works for Facebook and it is called a Leanin She also wrote a book called Leanin so they are called Leanin circles And last question, debating So do we have any debates in India with respect to politicians, politicians or parliament are there any debates which are happening in India? Ma'am we have national youth debates I am not aware of what it is called I do not think we have political debates we have it only in the parliament but in other countries they have it during elections as well What is your view on US presidential debates when there is US presidential elections So any debate which you have liked Have you seen those US presidential debates? Yes ma'am So any particular debate which you would like to mention here? Ma'am I am not able to recollect any of them now but I think most of it give a clear idea to the voters as to what the stand of people are It also gives a platform in which people can see the faults in the arguments of the whichever party they do not want to be and also see the merits in their argument So I think India should strive towards reading That was one nice next question actually which is you have already answered it Thank you What are the advantages and disadvantages having politics in your area? So the advantage is that it is easy for me to remember because it is my name and my interest the disadvantages I get made fun of quite a lot because people have a different image of foreign science based on what they have watched on television So we have a foreign secretary as a foreign minister now and he is doing a good job So what do you think we should have more experts who would be called chairing ministries let us say an IPS officer for defence or internal security or a revenue service officer for finance What is your take on that? Sir it is definitely an advantage to have an expert at the position of a minister but we cannot really mandate it because the situation in our country is such that we need people's representatives to also hold positions of power but as our country progresses we can even though it cannot be a mandated thing we can nudge political parties to give people with experience and with ground they have ground experience to such ministries So you have a concept for lateral entry Can you tell me something about this? So lateral entry in bureaucracy means that at the joint secretary level or above people have brought in from the private sector at a later stage of their career which is as opposed to the present career service wherein people are appointed from the junior level and they rise up the ranks What is the rate for this? So first of all they bring fresh perspective in policy making and they bring expertise and it will also ensure that there is a bit of competition within the bureaucracy also and complacency is reduced Backing NPAs Can you tell me the status of backing NPAs? Sir right now the NPA stands at about 7.3% which has reduced over the past few years The recent RBI report also says that due to the pandemic it can rise up to 13.5% by September However sir I think with the 4R method of recognition and of recapitalization and of resolution and reform we are trying to reduce our NPA position and I am optimistic that it might be Do you think we lack scientific investigation methods in policy in the country? Sir I would agree with that statement mostly because the forensic science as the subject is still evolving in our country and when we interacted with Mumbai Police we realized that the kind of importance that scientific investigation should get is usually not been given The entire blame also cannot be put on the police because the quality of our labs are not up to the mark the number of labs that we have are also not up to the mark which causes delays in such investigation as well but now recently the Home Minister has spoke for a National Forensic Science University and different state governments are also having these labs and police training is also being taken up so I think that now we do realize the importance of scientific investigation How does a degree in forensic science help you in your life today? Sir there might not be a direct impact in my day to day life but there are a few skills that I have learnt that I try to have an eye for detail and a scientific temperament and I stick to a schedule because we have a time limit when we have to do our analysis in the lab so a few traits that I have learnt in forensic science do help me although there might not be a direct implication on daily life Can you tell us about the public policy and research internship with members of Parliament? Yes sir Can we do an internship with? So right, in terms of the YSRCP party there were 22 MPs in the party in Lok Sabha How was your experience? What did you learn? Sir it was a very enriching experience firstly I got to visit the Parliament of this country secondly I got a deeper understanding on how policy is made and I also had the opportunity to form supplementary questions for the questioner as well as formulate speeches for MPs who so demanded it also made me realize that there are some shortcomings in how the Parliament works and which is why I think it has given me a further push to somehow enter policy making in the future course of my life Tech Talks vs. Josh Talks What are the reasons? Sir I have watched just one or two Josh Talks I think the general theme is about how people overcome any hardship that they face and it's an Indian based company if I am not mistaken Sir I would not be able to completely compare What do you read about fiction? Sir the major genre would be drama as well as a few classes Have you read any fiction which is related to politics science? Sir when I was a child I had dead Sherlock Holmes but not in the recent times