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I'm a what super max prisons in Australia are like Talk to me copyright disclaimer under section 107 of the copyright act 1976 Allowance is made for fair use purposes such as criticism comment news reporting teaching Scholarship and research fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing Non-profit educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use No copyright infringement intended all rights belong to their respective owners. This is true crime central Haven't done a prison reaction in a minute, man. I think the last one was HMP Whitmore Whitemore So I've been thirsty for one. I'm glad it's in Australia. We go by here. We go mate I did a kangaroo video. Yeah. Wow. Anyway There are close to 30,000 prisoners in Australian Goals Wait, it got go. All right L reader Almost half a century corrective services commissioner Ron woodham has faced up to many of the country's toughest criminals Gaining a reputation as a legendary reformer who changed the system forever. I wish no prison on man But this is looking real prison like okay with Unprecedented and extraordinary access the gates are unlocked as we continue exploring the inner workings of the prison system Guided by the veteran prisons commander who reveals exclusively Knowledge of this huge and complex industry run with military precision Where prisoners I can go now. I've seen something that caught my eye. I've seen fresh baked bread And I don't know what that was freshly squeezed orange juice. What was that told educated and Rehabilitated and those seeking redemption get a second chance and learn a new way of living Where dedicated guards must control drugs another contraband cope with violent resentful or mentally unstable inmates Yeah, and be forever on the alert in the dangerous in penetrable maximum security fortress known as supermax And penetrable is crazy Home to those classified as never to be released After you if you realize it's an offense to bring any contraband into the HRM CC I've been in my world. You have any phones prohibited into the HRM Is he standing or something? I was like seven feet tall You see I've been in my word You have any phones prohibited drugs or contraband on in your possession now officer Can do reach so Ronnie you too. Yep, even the commissioner gets done here. I don't go. Okay. They stand on or something. Okay Thank you, sir I just want to say this isn't done for the cameras. No, this is standard operating procedure Yeah, we've had two of the bosses come through with us. It doesn't matter. Yeah, Barry. Our feral comes here He gets the same treatment Whoever you are you get tested before you go into this joint. It's maximum security. It's the supermax The suit makes a lot of heat out of maximum security right across the board They all oh my god. I've been watching UK stuff was too long. I don't even know what he just said I don't know what dudes Building the suit makes a lot of heat out of maximum security right across the board. Okay, the officers Have taken charge at one stage you would think in some of the gyros and the cringe were running it. I Think they were and we took that right off them and gave it back to the officers in total control That took a lot of heat out of it and put the officers back where they should be right on top See if anyone now raise the officers are not on top in prison, I mean, I guess you can You can create that illusion, but you know, the prisoners know that the officers are not on top There's not enough of y'all. It's impossible That's why y'all get cool with the biggest inmates that I think run the jail and y'all You smooth with them then you smooth in in general, you know say hey, we chop it off All the mates within the HR MCC are deemed to be extreme high-risk and they are moved on a regular basis to allow for Searching of their property searching of the cell to make sure there has been no damage done or contraband placed within the cell So this is there's a trial room. Hey, this is what I call the nerve center of the suit makes and There's a hundred and fifty nine cameras in the cell many hundred and fifty nine cameras and The kid doesn't think is that a lot go through sequences. This is it. We've got exercise yards here with These are the blokes. You can apply to be in that exercise yard with another prisoner. Is that correct? So only to only two and they want a consent to be with each other Yeah, and we've got to agree that they can be with each other and we've got intel that they can't be Or we think they're planning and plotting something We split them up. So what if I just talk to each other and walk around? That's it There's a hundred and fifty nine cameras. You told me I've got all in front of me. Is there one inch? I ain't never heard of that man. There's super max is super max everybody by themselves, ain't they? Where your officer can't see other than the cells I live in everything else is covered everything. Yep Now that's camera 455 it says That's 40 foot above the jail. Yeah, and that's particularly if there's an aircraft in the area. Is that what it's that's all about? Yeah, it can be it can zoom in on people outside on the street as well or on the top of the roofs and that sort of thing but the uh, it's specifically put in place for what's happens overseas where Helicopter extractions are quite common And has there really been a helicopter extraction in the prison break? And they drop ladders down and prisoners get up and they cart them away with them hanging off the ladders That's cat. That's move. Y'all watch too much movies. That's cat. That's all we think So you can monitor aircraft movement. Yeah, or they drop overseas where yeah, and then the prisoners are armed inside Any attempts to escape are the things that concern you as a commissioner? Yeah, we've found um We've got one prisoner in here for uh five life sentences who used to be a keymaker And in another jail he made a key That fitted the maximum security cell he was in Out of a plastic tub to their property Just by watching never had the key in his possession Just by looking at the key. He made a perfect key after about three months In an attempt to get out That's it. But he can make a key just by looking at it And that's why a lot of jails don't let the uh Remember we was doing documentaries in the uk. They don't show the keys Now let nobody else see the keys. You cannot see the keys because of that for that reason That is insane. What and looked at that key so long even learn learn how to make it And the wrong people are in the suit max If they were running around in normal routine in the other maximum security jails that we make him And in there They don't have to prove themselves either Because as soon as you put some of them out in the jail, they'll arm up And it's like the old gunfighters in the west. Yeah, he's going to be top dog Did a sunshine Ronnie? Yep. It's the most secure exercise yard in any jail in australia As you look up you can see the anti-helicopter Wires the big wires and stop one landing with blades Even the small choppers can't land. Yeah In the positioning of those wires And then you've got the netting across the top to capture anything that's dropped in or tempted to drop in So i'm fascinated. There's a garden. They got all bases covered. You're not throwing nothing to bottom walls Or getting nothing in no paraphernalia One of your Multi-murderers Lindsay Rays tends to it now. He's the bloke Wasn't he a contract killer that killed the wrong people? Is that him? Yeah, he gave him one occasion and he's the keymaker I referred to He's the one that used to be a locksmith. Yeah, so he gets in your intense at the garden. That's right They can't see this area from their cells No What do you from the cells we're gonna have a look at them in a minute. We'll have a look Can't say much at all nothing That's a little bit of concrete Nebraska. Yeah more or less We can give them he looked like he don't take no Bs none room with a view of a brick wall And every now and then I suppose they hear that uh horn in the background. I wonder if spanning was locked up here It seems to be nice beginning on that and going back to sydney. They won't be going back. They don't count back This prison just caused super max What is what's the name of this prison? Did they say it? Is that for an officer, is it? Decade. No, it's a locked in to make their phone call Can I have a look at that that's What's uh, when do they get to make a phone call? Well, they got approved phone list in here. Yeah that they can phone The way the phones are inside cages You know what this is actually smart because in america and probably in the uk too phones Phones cause a lot of the ish fights like a lot of little fights When people are on phones and they other inmates is doing crazy stuff around them But if you just lock people in there when the phone didn't hey family Everything is listened to live and recorded And then you hear every word of the conversation and and record it to you not legal visits but normal visit normal phone calls yes And they locked in there for the duration and they let out This gap here. Yeah is where they put the hands out to get the handcuffs on and draw back in before the gates open Oh, this is super max prison. Okay. Okay. I keep thinking it's like a regular prison Where everybody's in there. Yeah, they get back to sell their cuff. Yeah every one of them. Yeah So they're cuffed and ankle cuffed an ankle cuff. Yeah. How many officers are always two officers four in here four. Yeah So it's very very tight So this is why we why is the camera right here? I'm lost I've am let spends 2470 Yes, okay. Can we have a look at it? Yes, right here. Are these double doored? Oh, it's gold burn So this is what I've am let spends 2470 Yes, right here This is another airlock, right? Where the officers again the prisoners have to be moved that flaps open and they put their hands out cuffs Everything's concrete. It's all it's not getting moved anywhere. It's all anchored to the floor Including the bed. There's nothing. Maybe it's a furniture that can be used to barricade at all or Not a metal put not a metal thing protruding out of the wall All concrete concrete Attack an officer with Then a shower with a rose at the top. Yeah Oh, wow Now go back. So it is double doored Double doored and then the shot can be used to barricade the door is double doored. This is what I was looking at Or attack an officer with And what's this but here? What is this? What is this like a little patio? In a shower with a rose at the top. Yeah And we can cut the water off. They can't flood anything So if they look like playing up something on the time switch, the water goes off. Yeah And then out here is the exercise yard that they've got Let me just measure this Step her out like I'm measuring a putt for nearest the pin one now. This is different two three four meters rough so every two cells Next to each other has their own private exercise area One you really don't got to let them out ever Because you know, you normally get out for one hour of yard time in the super max Nope pop your door open, buddy Two three four and a bit So again a slab can't be moved can't be used And a bit of sun No escapes from here All inmates are given the opportunity to exercise on a daily basis Their rear cell doors are open of a morning and the opportunity to exercise in their rear yard Both in the morning and in the afternoon I've never seen this in a prison. That's that's that's I mean, I guess you got some good men and women looking after this facility. I'll get you on the day and excellent You wouldn't want to Walk a day in their shoes, but she was they do it y'all. They do I do it well And uh, I can't speak Yeah Super max is quite intense staff are Put under the pump on a daily basis. Um, it's very stressful for staff to work with some of the inmates we have here Your organization strives towards sustainability self-determination We've got the industries in the furniture trade refurbished School desks and that for the education. So we make curtains for spotlight. We make We you what you make what curtains for spotlight You mean that my curtains might be made by you because I go to spot whatever around there Cut off our industries bring access turnover in 35 million a year. Is this private? Or is it um state This is the furniture shop. These are maximum security inmates We've got 45 inmates that work in here They do Four carpentry work. We do contracts for the education department, which is a big contract. We're doing 10 floors and so forth for the army We have inmates in here doing trade these ships. They um, so they can learn a trade as well It's very similar to a Furniture shop you find anywhere. I mean equipment like this machine behind it Um, cnc route a hundred and fifty thousand dollar machine Inmates learn to operate the computer. They design and drawer and great setup Okay They really rehabilitate now here though But oh you definitely locked up heavily, but you getting rehabilitated you learning stuff. They putting Money into you they not putting money in they making 35 million dollars a year, but but they doing this thing Workshop, I mean you've seen they have All the tools hammers chisels all sorts of Equipment that they used here in the course of the day But they love to come down here and work and they know if they play up or anything like that They don't come here We but they love to come down here and work and they know this prison. This is prison issue length This australia never mind Never mind continue my phone up or anything like that. They don't come here We're refurbished classrooms I gotta remember where we are in the world right now because I ain't never seen that A couple of hundred units of the mountables. They can just bring a truck in and put a skull up Okay, well, this is a minimum security section work work area Um, as you can see behind me these these six fellows are doing a forklift training forklift Operators ticket. I've got a guy in from the taifu crazy story. I used to work at a place called Jennings Chevrolet. I used to work in a parts department and uh This is when I was turning up heavy. I must have came to work hungover or something one day and I ran the fork Forklift straight through the garage door And didn't and didn't report it didn't tell nobody nothing Just continued on with my little day Left came back the next day Repeated came back the next day repeated then that third day. I was fired. You better believe I was fired for sure Yeah, I was gone. They got rid of me Give some hands-on skills that they can actually go out and get a job The gauges are all right your lights working When I started it was a matter of just locking them up and Waiting till their time was done and then kicking them out the door You know this day and age we look at giving they're not working all day. They're getting rehabilitated Getting them some sort of skill to get them a job outside the try and reduce the recidivism rate Um, and that's you know, there's more and more emphasis on that as time goes by so it's really good Long bay maximum security gold Yeah, we've got to bake our own bread. Well, they've got big shop construction site a carpentry lab Like Bremorena, you wouldn't send it from here But you know on the main runs. Yeah Brent look good about 4,000 loads a day and that's Distributed pretty much around the state. We make weekend lunches Which is like sausage rolls and pizzas and there's the inmates for the lunch on weekends They get made frozen and then shipped out Yeah, the baker's a good job. We also offer trainee ships here too Um, I've got seven guys doing stevia too in food processing. I've got a couple guys who's doing Stevia free and business admin in the office These are stiffness they can use when they get out I they sound good, but who's gonna hire them? These are felons Like and I'm I'm not I'm just being realistic. You know what I'm saying? That's why they That's why people reoffend. It's a vicious cycle. You you you offended you get a record You get out and there's what what opportunity is there for a felon Unless there's like some unless there's somebody out there who made a way and who got a construction privately on construction company Who hires, you know, I'm saying like, but I don't know if it's different in australia, but in america you are the felony yet done You better find figure something else. I don't know Is it the same there or what? We produce our own milk and also and we write a heave of veggies around the place as well. Well, they got a a whole plantation I just learned from a video a plantation is somewhere stuff is planted It's not only where slaves were but you know Day process around about five so they're in a maximum security prison But they have low security minimum security jobs and things of st. Helena's Is this a different job? Is this a different prison? Up to six ton of various vegetables per week They out here Picking pumpkins out the vineyard this facility encompasses 1200 acres of farmland, etc Okay, so this is a different jail. Okay. Okay, like 265 inmates here at the moment. We can hold more than that Uh, we hope in the near future to build a boning room out the back Uh, that will process our beef which will go into all the meals as well Walking down that road This is the minimum security prison. This is not the same one where we started out at Because this is just baffling to me that they got the prisoners next to a train station With no fences or nothing like Every day a bit of freedom and things like that's so great We walk down maybe a kilometer to to work where we pass duck ponds And I compare it to a lot of other places this this is heaven But at the end of the day, they've got to go back and they still find that hard because they miss their families But if you're going to do jail, this is the place to do it All the horses that come up here Excalipus and my job here isn't so i'm confused because Are all of these prisoners in super max they just go to like lower security jobs or is this a different prison? This looks like a different prison. I'm into Versailles. Where was out here a horse whispered? This is in Holt and one of them was just taken recently as a police force So I've put my name down to do a stable hands course up at Scan Tafe Hopefully, you know, it'll be in Holt a foundation laid for for a job when I when I'm released Actually coming to jail was a good thing to me. I was a I was a full-blown alcoholic for 15 years Lost my family lost my you know, everyone like that my wife my kids I now currently do AA Every week, which I've been doing for over 18 months now But it's a positive. That's why I look at it as long as there's a positive Out of something bad always comes something good and this is the good for me This is the heaviest Some Pregnancy services New South Wales has approved. Okay, this is long bay minimum security A joint operation utilizing resources from Pregnancy services, New South Wales and the New South Wales police force I'm amazed you do joint operations with the New South Wales police force where visitors are Searched and the contraband you find is quite unbelievable Yeah, we do regular planned operations with New South Wales police and they are drug dog in it And we've even got dogs now that can smell a mobile phone Taking place at the various correctional centers Intelligence suggests that contraband is becoming an issue within the long bay complex An area of concern is that contraband may be Introduced into the center by visitors All visitors to the complex today will be screened by a canine and if necessary the following complex to the center via visitors Thought that was buddy from 1-4 All visitors to the complex today will be screened by a canine and if necessary the following may occur property search A vehicle search or a pat or strip search The pat or strip search. This is to be conducted by New South Wales police only 1-0-1-2 repeat 1-0-1-2 Well, basically we're back up to the starter on the ground We're like the eye in the sky as such and we can actually watch what's going on So we are seeing your correctional officer Fergo model system We see something we're able to then communicate via radio or by telephone And tell them there's something going on that they may have missed There's a number of reasons why they try to traffic drugs in one can be as a currency The other for their own self-fulfillment Okay, we're officers from the state emergency unit. We're screening everyone coming on to the complex today Okay, but before we start have to caution it is an offense to have any drugs weapons syringes tools of escape poisons Prescribed medication and non-prescribed medication if you have any of these such items. No, it's a time to be clear. So Okay, no worries. I'll get you guys just to hold your hands like so and just remain still in solid during the search. Thank you Ripley is an operational Drug dog. He's a passive alert detection dog. So when he finds drugs He will actually sit and that's how he tells me that there's drugs there. He's trained on five voters He's trained on heroin cocaine ecstasy marijuana and amphetamines When Ripley's about to search I'll put on what's called his drug collar and it's like a workout He knows and that it's time to go to work as opposed to just his choke chain I'll gather him up by the lead hold on to the collar and get him all excited getting ready to work And I'll say fetch and he'll search Low he'll search people's shoes front and back and then we'll go up and we'll search their pockets front and back and high and if he's Cleared the line if he hasn't given me a positive indication then we let the people go and move on to the next I've just received a phone call. They have something Move on to the next He looked like he about to sit down. He has something in his butt I've just received a phone call from another correctional center. Um, who's informed me that a visitor Um, he's going to bring in some drugs and of course we'll be targeting that good old block visitor Before we start our search I've got to informally caution you that it's an offense to bring on to the correctional complex any drugs weapons Alcohol tools of escape if we get a positive indication We pull that person out of the line and conduct a property search and Depending on that a vehicle search if we find contraband the police are called and they put Former strip search and that's we please drop down there One of the visitors um that we screamed and did a property search on um, that's where you going ma'am The jail what we found in her bag was some gbm which we believe to be green vegetable matter or commonly known as marijuana Green vegetable matter is what they refer to marijuana as and Drugs can lead to a lot of problems in jails, you know There's a lot of standovers a lot of bashings and stuff like that And inmates can be difficult to control when they're under the influence of drugs and alcohol People are very inventive and they can put it anywhere Dogs you'll find it if it's there I'll find it We monitored a boom gate from here as you can see there's four cameras on it So it gives a record as to who comes in and out attention attention complex monitor them to smc area two response team We had some surveillance on that particular visitor coming up from the boom gate And that visitor was actually seen placing an object out of her bag and put it in her shoe The lady that we just searched has a full syringe she just pulled out of her right boot Syringes, uh, you know, uh really A nightmare for correctional officers um because they can be stabbed And also with the blood diseases that can be found in those syringes. So that's extremely important For us that we stopped that sort of contraband from coming in this We're under the impression that you're under the influence Other of the drug or alcohol because of your behavior shown here Okay, so I was just had a conversation with the mrs up there and they feel that They're not going to let you have a visit today. Okay, however, you come back when you're when you're normal then you can certainly have a visit Okay Okay, thank you. Why was he come under the influence like what was he thinking? That was dumb. She's made sure she she does actually go out Yeah, I can let you know with today's success. Uh, what we've actually done We've done 295 visitors were actually screened by the canines 44 visitors property have been searched Three visitors have been strip searched by the new south wiles police Strip search and everything two police charges And six visitors have been denied entry to the correction centers They will be referred to yeah, this ex-husband was locked up for seven years. We used to go visit Um, yeah, man, this is eerily similar. I don't remember no dogs or nothing Our prohibition section to find out if they were maybe not allowed to visit Anymore for our period of time has been by the commission I love my job and you get the drugs and you get the fines and you see his happy little face And he's playing with his dummy. It's the best drug in the whole world All right, Katie Silver water women's correctional. Okay, so it's a bunch of different ones in here. All right You see the government made a decision many years ago to close down psychiatric hospitals and put people back in the community Do I now take it there are people who you have control of that? Maybe you shouldn't have control of they should be kept somewhere else We still have hundreds of mentally ill people Yeah, and um And some of them commit very serious crime as well. Yeah And they can't be just held in the hospital This is the heaviest women's jail And we've got some of the most serious women offenders in australia here Committed some gruesome murders killed children I had to battle to build this So where do they go before you built this? They'd be just up in the jail and getting into all sorts of problems. Yeah, because they don't know they're not in touch with reality So this is on his same watch and they'd go and Take something from another prisoner's cell and get assaulted and it's reduced a lot of tension in the general It's a facility where the case management is it's a psychologist than the health staff and the custodial staff work on the one case file It's quite effective keeps it keeps a lot of them alive And what do you get to do to make sure you don't come back? Hey Just never break the law again, never You gotta stay out of it. Keep on your medication. Yes. Yes. Don't go often. Yes, exactly. What about you though? I'm just in here just for every just for a bit of Common assault that I happen with my boyfriend. Yeah, I think just a bit of common assault Just not too much just a little bit just a piece of just a piece of assault on my boyfriend Hey, listen, if your girlfriend or your boyfriend beating you up call the police If your girl beating you up, definitely call the police quickly In both scenarios call the police because They carry yourself out here It never gets better And you're medicated you like last night. I had a few bad dreams. Do you feel like you're all right now? Yeah, I feel all right today as soon as I woke up on you then I you know, I could I was okay and you've got to think of happy thoughts I got you one before I got you one at the bay, remember Kisley Jones, how are they? You've been cutting up? Yeah, when when you're cut up there Yeah Yeah, the nurses don't haven't even you'll end up buggering all your veins, you know, no good I'll get you there. I'll speed up the exercise bike. Okay, let's go and have a look at the cell You're pretty bare here, right? Yeah, but um, they're allowed some chalk and a board to ride on The TV behind perspective so it can't be They can't break it. Can't be used as a cuff themselves. Just We're outside with a She's a murderer But she's also someone who continually attempts self harm. Yes Continue she used to run a fire Like flat out into a corner of cement And she split a fire from the top. No, but I don't even understand how it got muted. I didn't do it There's no reason for me to mute it, right? I don't know What I had said was There's a shower End of in every unit here I don't recall in the uk and I know in america people don't have Showers inside of their jail cells their individual cells And I said this is the super max because he's the warden of the super max for men So he's the warden for this one as well. They got to be on the same campus Which is crazy I just did that showers. I said this is like many many studio apartments And it was about that open and I had to tire up. Yeah, I probably pressed them and They couldn't sell it the gap was that They couldn't sell it up And I saw her over at one bay and I walked in and I said What do you need? She said I want an exercise bike so I can take my aggression out on the bike So I got a one that day And she'd asked in only four months on the bike on the bike not causing problems and all of a sudden bang off the rails And she stabbed another woman 40 times just to see what it was like to kill someone Just to see what it would feel like you're running experiments on death DEAF death No, just to kill her That's tough This is a high-dependency unit. These are the most Mentally all people we have in this facility and probably some in the system So where do you back in court, huh? I'm back in court 21st and 22nd And what do you want to do? I'll sell it Australia. Save the Magus for her. Well It's not much I can really say but I'd like to just Let him know that I've got a little kid on the on the way my missus is six weeks pregnant and How long you've been battling that woman? Is it something is it caused by drugs? What causes? Yeah, I've been smoking ice for Probably five years now and yeah drug and alcohol is a big thing in my life. I didn't have much love growing up. So At the end of the day, I'm here, aren't I and I want to get out and just Try and get normal, you know what I mean? I've got a kid. That's my first kid in When's the baby? 2013 How old were you starting to use an ice? Probably 18 2012 I look at that young like I'm talking to it. It's the same age as my young bloke It breaks my heart You know and he admits to what use of ice god knows what all things done And you're not astonished to see him back here in three or six months. Not really There's a missing step on the outside. There's some cycle that can yeah It's like we get them in here. They get cleaned up. They're great. They go outside They try and do their best. There's just not that help out there for them the real world can be depressing honestly, especially like Going back to people who don't believe in you don't think you can achieve anything but I'm only see you under one light That you've trying to elevate above Get spooky That's something you don't expect when you first join the job But even you do come in you form a bit of a working relationship whether you like it or not The reality of it that's how it works and you have to do it, you know for my safety the staff safety The inmates safety Well, you're all corny boys, ain't you know what's over the wall here? Yeah, Sydney stadium in Whitby state 2000 I called the race. This is one I read about her sir. Mr. Adley Kathy Freeman he's Kathy running around the track because she is so proud to be black when she rang with her flag all up I she looked up at the evening in the sky and thanked her to be blessed because she was our very best Trying to get her well trying to get them published at the moment We won't get them published in here. I know Pooms trying to get away from crime, you know, and get away from the drugs and the alcohol and all that day, you know I'll start off with with growing up with Aboriginal people up in the bush at a very young boy I was taken to the Site of the mile Creek massacre We're 28 women and children were murdered by white people I can see by looking at you. You're you're You're emotional about this you'll move by that As I went through the ranks, I never heard of it. There was a lot missing for Aboriginal people And so in the plane that three kilometres of Belund Minimum security. Okay. Belund. Up a tabulum and we built a facility beautiful be there for mainly Aboriginal people men and women Manning and Belunda made second chance so the this guy Is he the overseer of all of these places because he's spoken on almost he's spoken on all of them He must be the overseer to all of them Everybody has to report to him and then he has like people under him as like managers or something That's how it seems men and women meaning in Belunda means second chance There's a second chance of life like they've had their their chair first chance I suppose going through life going through juvenile justice then they turn up in the mainstream after the turn of 18 Elder he's an elder come here because they're sick of the jail system They want to have another go where they can sort of change their life around their issues are mainly drug and alcohol, anger management and stuff like that He's talking about Aboriginals We're a working cattle property and we take Residents here who have been to court They've been convicted But their sentence has been suspended and they they're returned to us And they're here roughly between six to twelve months We take predominantly Aboriginal men and women between 18 and 40 Alcohol and drugs They destroy a lot of families, you know It's not their fault, you know with these people They do know what's right or wrong, but They don't know any other way You know, they just need some of this just to be given a bit of guidance to show them another track in life They've done a great deal of good for Aboriginal people as pregnant And a lot of them don't come back That's good That's my mom, that's my old man Oh Baran, minimum security That's my sister, that's my mom, that's my old man There's my girlfriend, I've been with her for about a year and a half You know, probably get engaged to him when I get out To the kitchen Area, all the boys spend a lot of time here Cook up some big feeds, you know Bro, why is his face blurred? Why did you even volunteer for this and be in blood of your faith? Jail, they supply pots and pans and a knife which is unusual for a jail too, but You know, we're trusted with that Minimum security The development of the program was came about in the late 80s Where we noticed, um, incorrect George Bush, what's going on? Dennis Carey, State Manager, Young Adult Offenders Program Since the recidivism rate, the return to jail rate of Young Adult Offenders was consistently high, e.g. to a point of a high 90% We had to do something 18 to 25 year old Miles, a very very impulsive It's high risk taking behavior It could be your son 18, I guess it's 18 18, say again Miles, a very very impulsive 18 to 25 18 18 to 25 My Australian accent is much better than my UK accent, I feel My British accent A year old Miles, a very very impulsive It's high risk taking behavior What do you want, lad? What do you want, lad? It could be your son, they had it spur of the moment impulsive Stupid mistake, drank too much Stupid mistake Stupid mistake What's up? Run off the road and killed someone in the in jail I've seen people We've literally had to drag off a truck on a Sunday To start the program didn't want to be here Fun day, fun In the 16 weeks time we can't get Didn't want to be here A bit of them, I don't want to leak Because they've changed so much in brain Thanks guys, so today's expedition We're going to be going out on the Moomba Loomba Plateau We'll be out there till tomorrow So today is about the plateau We'll be out there till tomorrow Got to loosen this top button up So today is about these fellows Nearing the end of the program It's about putting them in a position of responsibility Julie and Anders an adventure facilitator Handing the trust and responsibility back to them Today we're going to leave the central go out in the bus My role is to mentor and guide these guys through the program I didn't want to get out of jail not having achieved anything So for me, by helping these young fellows I do something else, man This can't be a part of my rehabilitation If I'm in Australian prison I'm not going out there I don't want to be a part of nature I don't want to do that It's me, you know, the opportunity to say Hey, I actually did something Let me go build a bookcase or something Man, I got something out of it So I guess it's a personal thing Thank you before I just used to do things about thinking And I used to like not listen to anyone Not take advice from people By now, like we could think straight Think before I do something I must do that You don't appreciate what you've got until it's gone, you know And you start to realise what you can do And in order to be able to obtain that back And be able to keep it I'm 22 years old I'm 20 I'm 19 Today, guys, we're doing dangle duo But when you're on the top of the plate I'm 19 Therefore, I'm going to ask you What's changed for you in the program? Being an opron, you know You're going to have to put some trust in people When you're up there on the high ropes and that You know, your life's literally not in your hands, you know If the bloke down there isn't paying attention Or something like that Yeah, yeah, yeah Hey boys, give it a bit of encouragement, like You can fall, you know You can seriously injure yourself It's just like, yeah, to get up Just don't hurt What do you want, lad? You got it What is that? What do you want for that? Just do it, okay The thing for me is you have to get in there and have a go, you know And you have to get in there and have a go And you know, you have to have a positive attitude to things Stretch life's like, hold on To all these programs shows you and The teamwork Have a positive lifestyle and Just to work better at things Try harder and know that there's so much more to live for Than just being stuck in jail I don't have very many master criminals here It's made one of the bigs of the plan to crime for Three years before committing it It's usually an impulsive mistake Sometime it's fueled by drug and alcohol or anger Where do you go first? I could do that Him first? And we're in the business of putting ourselves out of business We don't want people to come back to jail Can't get up Nah, never want to get up We do not get inmates from Mars They do not come from Mars and we send them back to Mars They're people's sons, fathers And they can well live next door to you or work beside you They're normal people So all in all, everybody in the world's prison Everybody in developed areas Prison system is better than America's I'm not doing this This is the one where you can count me out I see a whole lot of nature around I see lots of changes in the inmates over 16 weeks Billy just speak up in a group For a lot of these guys they've never It's like I feel Timon and Pumba about to pop up and sing A wimbo wet, a wimbo wet Like I'm not doing it, I'm good Yeah, they've never sat in a group They've never worked as a team They've never been able to listen to others This whole program is about giving them some ideas And then testing them on those Because in the near future A lot of these young guys are going to be back out in the community Where they don't have somebody looking over their shoulder Or keeping them on the right track You can clip that loop If you don't provide these opportunities They're giving them nothing And a lot of them do have nothing So giving them that opportunity Giving them that platform I think is probably the most important thing you can do And there's not many programs that offer Other than this program Imagine this Imagine the app sales really steep I've done a couple of things at the show Like I've got my blue card forklift Tickets and bobcat tickets So when I get out I've got more opportunities to work And do better things for myself on the outside You're doing really well, mate Yep, that's it, keep your feet nice and wide apart I wish I would have done things a lot different To be honest I can't change what I've done That's what I do from now on that counts They in prison having a time of their lives So I believe what I do from here on in Determine where I end up in the future Salute, though All right, let's start tying the slack here, guys All right, Corey, Zoe, I got you Mum didn't want to see me in there You know, in the big white, in the green and that I haven't really seen much of me, Dad, since I've been in here Because she's kind of supporting me at the same time when I'm in here Like, it was hard for me when I was out But like I have a confidence in myself That I can say no Since I'm in here doing all these programs, like this stuff You wanted to say BS Look, look I know Since I'm in here doing all these programs No, you wanted to say BS Like this stuff Yes, change me Remember to set your goals past the trapeze So you can reach it Oh, yeah, I'm going to try and get the woolly You for the jump? You can do it Put your hands out Just bar away, bro I can't get that It's not that far No, I'm right, I'm right Trying to get to it And like try to pass on the message that, you know Dude is going to pull you at the same time I have to do bad things Get a job You know, just live a normal life Instead of coming to jail and ruining it Nice Nice It's pretty easy Nice Nice On this camp, I've asked the boys to write four page letters to themself And I've said to them that I will send that to them a year after they're released And I think with all goal setting, it's If you write your goals down and you set it out clearly It holds you more to that So if we can get them to write those down It's a really good reminder 12 months down the track Hey, this was your idea This is where you wanted to be Are you still on track for that? What are you doing about that? I sit back and I think about all the things I've done with my family And the things I could do better And the things I could do more of And when you come to jail Like for me, my family come and visit me every single weekend, you know And I see tears on my mother's face And if that isn't enough To make you learn your lesson Then there's not going to be many other things that will Is it last? It's the last obstacle, man There is no magic pill I'd love for it And I'd tell them an induction I'd love to be able to give everybody a magic pill they could take That would prevent them coming back from jail We can't stop an inmate coming back from jail What we do is we equip them with the tools to stop them coming back to jail And it works I'm the king of the world It's the W prison system, man I'm disappointed in America right now It's very challenging being released from jail into the community A lot of people are institutionalised from their time in custody So just simple tasks can be very difficult Imagine being released after 20 years into the community And not knowing how to use an ATM card Not knowing how to catch a bus A lot of buses now no longer accept money You need tickets And just knowing the process of what you need to do in order to Just do normal day to day activities can be incredibly challenging And so having someone in the community to assist you To adapt and deal with those issues is essential And probation and parole service does provide that Offenders can be placed on supervision by community offender services Either by order of the court Or from release from custody by the state parole authority Hello, Falk, how are you today? I'm alright And that's where a probation is from custody What's due, man? By the state parole authority Hello, Falk, how are you today? I'm alright Court Or from release from custody by the state parole authority Hello, Falk, how are you today? I'm alright And that's where- That's a crazy name I wonder what's his last name, you? That'd be a heat I'll be introducing myself to everybody, no cap We're a probation and parole officer We'll assist an offender To give them the support they need To become a functioning member of the community again I've been alright You've been okay? Yeah It's been happening Not one single parole officer goes on their own to see these people Especially their unannounced home visits There's a lot of difference between telling an offender You're going to be there at four o'clock tomorrow Yeah And let them be all prepared for you Yeah And they're walking in at eight o'clock that night With no warning So here we go Yeah, and you see the real thing And of course there's always no one goes on their own Okay, Goldburn, we back to maximum What's going on? Hey, Scott, you on Remind? Yeah You don't very- That wasn't a very smart question Did you have to speak with, I think, walking up to a gate Prisoners behind the gate talking about your own remand? Yes What's going on? Hey, Scott, you on Remind? Yeah You don't very hope like all of you How long do you think you'll get? A couple of years Yeah, you coming back? Not here, no Corrective services is the agency that can't say no We get whatever the criminal justice system hands us And it's our job to deal with that We've had some bad days We certainly had some hard times during those bad days But the good days outweigh the bad days And if we had more bad days than good, I wouldn't be What about you, champ? First time in Learning a valuable lesson about three little girls And she don't stay outside and find them How old are your kids? Six, four, and ten There's absolutely no reason why you cannot go out into the community And lead a fulfilling life in the community Have your family, have your White House with the White Picket Fence There's no rule that says you're not entitled to that Just because you have been in jail What are you doing, mate? Well, man, you're clearly Clearly Being very naive to the real world Ooh, is this my eye? Look at my eye, it's swollen It's crazy Look how wide this one is And this one's like, shut I look like Charleston White right now That's tough I said when I was a kid, I was fascinated About what was going on behind those walls You want to know what the unknown is Yeah, so y'all let me go through a whole stream like this Ain't nobody saying nothing I know my eyes are normally low, but like, dang Like one is, like, this is normal Wait, no, this is normal And this is like swollen All right, okay You want to see what's in there But once you see it, you're like, oh Everyone's a person, they're all people Just committed a crime Jail, sure in many instances, be The place of last resort Not the place of first option Mate, it breaks my heart if like your age, you know, being in there When you get sentenced, you do the program, right? And the experts say this bloke ashamed That he can control his anger He's not going to belt someone on a pub anymore You know, this bloke's got a bit of potential This is society taking care of its own Rather than pushing them behind large walls And to all intents and purposes Forgetting about them Because in most cases, those inmates will at some stage Be released back onto those streets They veil themselves and do something about Of the programs and do something about their offending behavior By the while they're in here Yeah Some of them will never come back Some of them will never come back And that's worth the effort from us And that's worth the effort from them Commissioner of Corrective Services, Mr. Ron Woodham He's been the one who's directed us, guided us, led us Many programs in department of Corrective Services and New South Wales Would not exist without his vision, his leadership How would Ron Woodham like to be remembered? I'd like to be remembered that, um I wonder how he really is without the cameras If he's really this guy, salute I believe he is though, because this is not America This is somewhere else This is Australia, so maybe he's this nice friend I made a real positive worthwhile contribution To corrections in New South Wales And that, uh, contribution to corrections in New South Wales And that, uh, the changes that I drove And implemented, uh, were positive And for the better of the system And that people in years to come Will benefit from staff and, uh, prisoners And to people in New South Wales I hope I've kept you as safe as I could On that night, you've done your job Good luck, I'll make that way Well, I'll tell you something Pause It's been an unbelievable day I mean, this was really informative, man For, you know, me And all of us that have not watched Any type of Australian jail situation I learned a lot, um I almost feel like I can build a cabinet Bake some bread Whisper to a horse, uh This has been very informative No, and all our seriousness though Salute, man T. 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