 Definitely not. Oh, you know the other day I was uh, I was at a store and someone had a ringtone that went like this I went oh I'm like, oh my gosh. I heard that Yes You knew exactly what I was doing Yeah, oh that takes me back to the first year I lived in San Francisco I would sit on ICQ and talk to people Oh man, I'm trying to remember my ICQ number. I don't remember my number anymore. I had a one and a nine in it I think mine started with eight eight. I Know I haven't I haven't found somewhere. Yeah, I have it somewhere. In fact, it's still installed Computer over there if it ever if it booted last time I turned it on a booted, but that's been a while so That one also got a little water in it I think it's just got in the bottom of the case though. So it probably is okay Hmm, I Haven't tried to turn in all that stuff on though too much to do too busy. Yes. Oh Lamar dropped out I guess sleep cream was a better. No, there he is. Oh wait, we have his face. Yeah, though. He's joining again from the moon Every time every time Lamar logs on they show you should play his theme song. Oh, I used to do that I think it got The sleep train Heavy funny he just did that His theme song sleep train man We had we had a good half hour of decent connection with Lamar and then right before you understand You basically tempted the fates time. Oh, I know your breathless arrogance. He still has two minutes. There we go There we go. No, wait, I was always here What do you mean my my child I have always been here with you One set of footprints it was Lamar You're a strong dude man Appreciate it that you got yeah, you got Tom and Roger and me on your shoulders I have never left you from the beginning plus it's hard to walk in sand, you know I feel like I said was special on seeing in now that talks just about me Yeah, I Know the theme song. I don't know what do you get the reference? Okay? I don't know if you do Wilson I was at OJ thing No, the Jesus special. Oh, that's that's oh, no, I didn't know about that one Yeah, they have this weekly thing where they're I guess I guess is a series where they have actors and it's about the life of Yeah, yeah, they do documentaries now. Yeah, but with actors That's what I'm thinking because it's a continual weekly thing. They don't have actual they don't have that have recovered footage Yeah, but they're mixing it with other Yeah, they recovered the VHS, yeah, the Densea tapes Oh my god, all right Well, let's tempt fate do the show. What do you think? Yeah, let's see what happens. All right. I'm going hiding Go go go. There we go. The best guys The Daily Tech News show is brought to you by its global listener base not outside organizations to find out how you can contribute Go to Daily Tech News show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Friday the 7th of April 2017 I'm Todd Merritt Lamar Wilson alongside with us today Lamar is fighting persevering through internet Troubles, thank you for your dedication today. Thank you. Thank you. If I go out just know in my heart I'm with you. He has been outside applauding the technicians The trucks are out there and they're and they're fixing they like we're almost done You're out there with pom-poms cheering them on I threw drinks at them It was glass bottles, so that probably wasn't a good idea the chance the chance that you had like here we go technicians here We go. That was great Well also joining us. Len Peralta is back on this Friday to illustrate the show. How's it going Len? It's going well. It's beautiful cold snowy day in Cleveland, Ohio For April, but I'm keeping it warm here by doing some warm drawing Just so you know This has been on my phone forever Nice. Yeah, I told you I love your work, man. Thank you so much Yeah, you can download those digital things at the end of the show, but yeah, I gotta get to I gotta get to Draw and so let's get to some news. Take a look at LensPeraltaStore.com and let's start with a few tech things You should know Paul Therot posted on Twitter the Surface Pro 5 will not change the Surface Connect power connector I want a USB-C connector. I guess I'll have a USB-C port He says I was just told Cabby Lake nothing dramatic So if you're looking for a new Surface Pro tablet, those are some things you might be interested to know Walt Mossberg announced he will retire this June 47 years after beginning his career as a national journalist with the Wall Street Journal He didn't always cover tech. He covered the Pentagon. He covered world events all kinds of things the list goes on and on He did start writing his tech column in 1991 that has run continuously It's changed venue over the years It would spin in places like the Wall Street Journal and Recode and the Verge But it's it's he's gonna hang up his pen. I don't know if he still writes But this June so you know applause to Walt Mossberg on a fantastic career I wish I know more more about him You know, he's one of those that I don't really you know, I dived into the Wall Street Journal much So it's just one of those I've skipped over but like he I always hear his name He's he's definitely well-known and well-respected Talk about an influencer, right? Somebody. Oh, yeah, definitely does US Department of Homeland Security has withdrawn its request for information that could help identify the person behind Twitter account alt underscore US CIS and Therefore Twitter has subsequently withdrawn its lawsuit against the US Department of Homeland Security and Customs Resisting that request doesn't mean they won't come back and request it in a different way But this apparently is not worth pursuing. Yep. Good. Thanks Now here's some more top stories Google has started presenting extra information Like whether a topic is true false or undetermined when it's displaying search results from fact-checking sites like political fact and Snopes, so it's not changing the search ranking Lamar You the results will still show up wherever a snopes or a politifact result would show up But it will now say, you know, this story determined to be false this story determined to be true That I mean, I think that's a good start, but can you I mean that has to be an overwhelming amount of Human I mean human has to do that, right? Well a human does it on the snopes and politifact site and I guess what Google is doing is has figured out like it does with a Lot of research results like I don't grab we can always see when they say true on their story So we can surface that in this guy. Yeah, okay I was gonna say if there's someone at Google doing that my god just a amount of pages would be Astronomical. Yeah, it's just another way to make it more scannable when you're searching on something where you're like Is soiling green made of people I need to find out. Yes. Yes, it is by the way I think that might fulfill my my prediction from the end of last year, right Tom Oh But with what I don't remember I remember your prediction being about Google and fact-checking, but yeah It while it was it was there was going to be some sort of third-party thing and I didn't really say what it was But it was displaying information kind of like what this story is talking about. It's close It's close. We'll have to wait till the end of the year. Yeah, we're getting there because I bet Google does some more things by the end of Waymo which if you don't follow this stuff You may not realize is the company that Alphabet created out of Google's autonomous car project So this was the Google self-driving car became Waymo Waymo is suing uber They are saying former Google employee Anthony Levandowski took autonomous car tech from Google to a company He founded called auto which uber acquired So the court case has been going on Friday uber told the court its tech is not the same as Waymo's uber uses a four lens LiDAR design with two optical cavities Waymo only has one Lens in its LiDAR design with one optical cavity uber claims It also has not seen the 14,000 files that Waymo claims levandowski took as a Google employee They say they didn't show up here Waymo is seeking an injunction to stop uber from using any tech built on Waymo's proprietary technology and the judge Judge also has said just saying you don't have the files isn't gonna be good enough Especially because this and this goes back to an earlier episode if you remember levandowski plead the fifth So if Levandowski was the only one to have the 14,000 files Of course uber would say we don't see them because those files are now protected by the fifth amendment So That one alone doesn't defend them but but lemar it does sound like if they could make a compelling case that their design isn't the same one that Waymo says got stolen they they might be able to get it past this Yeah, I think so but at the same time the odds here I mean if you're just using basic reasoning you know this guy coming from you know From the department and all of a sudden makes his own company. So I guess my question my hit is Why didn't google make a longer non-kepi clause, you know they in the contract if they made a they did Yeah, that's why there's a lawsuit Okay, cuz I'm like he shouldn't have been able to make it. Yeah, no exactly He should he shouldn't have been able to take any of the technology He can make the company and start using his own what was in the contents of his brain Right, but I see what you're saying like a non-compete like you shouldn't be allowed to start a competing Absolutely, not just not just non-disclosure. No, no, yeah, not not stealing stuff. I misunderstood what you're saying No, that's an interesting take I mean google has been that's been one of the perks of working at google is that if you're smart with something As long as you don't take google proprietary information You can then go parlay that sell your google stock and start your own company And also you so they encourage that they sort of do It's been a it's been a way that they have attracted talent Is to say hey, if you come work for us, you know, we're not going to lock you down You're going to be able to go off and start your own thing now They also don't like it if someone actually takes 14 000 files. Oh, yeah, well, that's yeah, that's that's yeah, that's One problem with machine learning that you may have heard discussed is that you either have to share your personal data with a Cloud service, that's the way google does it right now, which is like, hey Turn that google assistant on and have it monitor everything you do and we promise we won't tell anyone But it'll help it will help it's uncontroversial that it will help machine learning get better or your ai Just won't learn as fast because it will only be able to learn from you if you don't share it Then it's it's only learning based on your behavior. So it doesn't learn as fast Well, google has a new thing. They're testing out in the gboard keyboard app for android called federated learning That's where the machine learning model is downloaded locally So they actually have a version of tensorflow running on your Device on your tablet or your phone and that learns from your data summarizes Local changes that it's made as a small update And then that update is uploaded to the cloud and averaged with other updates. So it's not 100 private But it's not sending every little thing you do Okay, so it seemed like this is a when I read this I didn't understand as I'm led you explain it It's it's a way to filter. Yeah So some of that data, okay That allows the shared back end model to improve and then be updated on your local device Without the specific user data having to be shared. Okay I'm okay with that. It's it's a little better. I mean you could still argue like well, but that mod I guess that the the small update summary could be mined for your data But it's not it's definitely a better thing than like lamar went to these gps coordinates and emailed these people and said these things in a text message, right? Right. I mean, I regularly send out about my friends that I snoop on but yeah, you shouldn't do that That's bad Now google says this allows for smarter models lower latency less power consumption all while ensuring privacy Because it doesn't have to the you know, the other benefit is it doesn't have to go to the cloud To to communicate all the time it can communicate with the local version of the machine learning model most of the time And it's a different approach than what apple does if you remember apple talked about how with siri It's doing differential privacy. That's where it searches customer data for trends But leaves the data on your device. It doesn't identify individuals. Okay You just have to trust that they are doing that Yeah, yeah, well, that's true of all of this stuff But this isn't this is an interesting advance because it's a way to get the benefits of that centralized model While providing a little more privacy, uh, which is good. Everybody wants that. Yeah, I like that A court in italy ruled uber was engaged in unfair competition with taxis The taxi services had brought the lawsuit and the court says uber may not use its black lux suv x xl select or van phone applications in the country Nor may it advertise its services. Of course uber intends to appeal this, but they have it banned uber They just said you can't use any of your apps and you can't tell anyone that you're operating a service But if they can find you somehow Go for it. Yeah, I was like, what what other service do they have besides these? I mean, I don't know you could call them on the phone. Hey, send me a writer This this that's funny Well, you just on a side note. I didn't realize the extent of uber. I have a friend that's uh in japan right now And he told me yeah, I took uber here. I used the same app and everything and he Oh, so because when last time I was in japan uber wasn't operating there. That's great Yeah, he's in tokyo and I was just like it just blew my mind that this company's advancing so fast Yeah, no, they're all over the place and and and there's grab taxi lift and olah and All kinds of versions of this in various places as well. So Uh, finally usfcc chairman aji pie has briefed telecom trade groups about plans to alter The open internet guidelines pies approach would have isps voluntarily pledged to follow net neutrality principles Uh, which would have to be defined I would assume and then the federal trade commission Would punish violators of the pledges for unfair practices It'd be like an unfair trade practices thing like you can't violate these net neutrality principles or the ftc will crack down on you Uh, that's been one of aji pie's Modes here is we want to move a lot of our regulation back to the ftc We think that's where it properly belongs. Okay, uh, the ftc cannot govern title two common carriers though And that's what the isp is currently classified as so the fcc would have to reclassify telecoms again Uh as not common carriers Which in my opinion they probably are but they'd have to say okay Well, we're not going to call you common carrier so that the ftc can regulate you Uh, wall street journal says pie might begin the process in either the may or june fcc meetings So so the key here i'm saying is that They have to voluntarily pledge and then once they voluntarily pledge they can get punished So Why would they voluntarily pledge? It is pretty mushy, right? It leaves a lot of loopholes Because if I understand it right they can voluntarily say, ah, we're going to follow these guidelines because the ftc would say We're not making these the law But we think that these are fair practices and the fcc actually does this a lot They're like we think that this is generally how a company should behave We're not going to crack down on you unless we see actual consumer harm But if you follow these guidelines, you probably won't get in trouble, right? And so it's a little bit different than congress passing a law It's a regulatory agency just saying like here's your guidelines You know, here's how you probably won't run into the problem of being accused of an unfair practice, right? And so advertising guidelines are the same way. There aren't actually laws There are some laws, but there aren't a lot a lot of things we think of as laws as far as uh, false advertising aren't laws They're guidelines that the ftc says in order to say if you follow these guidelines We won't come after you for false advertising. Okay, so you can't get sued If you kind of one of those we know it when we see it situation So the guidelines kind of help say this is how we see it Okay, so will these companies be pressured to volunteer volunteering? Well, I mean that there's a lot of there's a lot of questions, right? Like, you know, it's a voluntary guideline That's fine. The false advertising a lot of things are voluntary guidelines Uh, they the the rating system for movies is a voluntary guideline that that helps them avoid getting prosecuted for you know Showing things to the wrong kinds of people that the rating system in movies is another isn't even better example It's not the law, but it's a voluntary guideline So if it's a voluntary if net neutrality ends up being a voluntary guideline like that and the ftc puts some teeth behind it It could work fine But there's a lot of questions about what are those guidelines? How much enforcement will there be? Uh, and and will this will this change things? One of the things that ajpai and others have said is there are too many questions There's too many anti competitive questions with the way the internet guidelines are now I feel like this raises even more questions and makes more uncertainty I would think so But it's it's a it's a fascinating start And thanks for educating me about the the movie guy. I had no idea about movie guidelines That's enough. That was just a law, but it's it's not no. It's a voluntary system Uh, then and the same thing for video games, right? Yeah, yes, rb Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in less than five minutes, please subscribe to daily tech headlines Dot com you can listen to that Get all the headlines of the day and then listen to us to gain a little more conversation a little more understanding about it Now zackapstein over at bgr.com has a column out today Uh with a couple of notable assertions in it one The galaxy s8 and the lg g6 make the iphone 7 feel old-fashioned to zack Mostly because of bezels the iphone littered with bezel so much bezel And there are virtually no bezel on the galaxy s8 or even the lg g6 You just did an unboxing on that lemar, right? I did the bezel is almost non-existent. I was really impressed with it. Yeah Yeah, so it feels like the iphone is an old-fashioned design I remember when the iphone 5 still had that blocky It was a little longer, but it still felt blocky compared to like the note and all of that iphone 7 kind of feeling that way these days is what zack is saying The other thing he notes is that he won't likely switch Even though when he holds the galaxy s8, he feels A sincere envy. He's not going to switch because of software. He says the os is smooth on ios Third-party apps are good. He's got this integration across his devices that he finds convenient updates are fast Now I don't want this to devolve into a fan war conversation Because all of this could be reversed in the fall if apple does all the things the rumors say They're going to come out with this slick phone and then it may be like oh Well, now apple has the modern-looking phone Android users can easily point to their own inherent advantages in the google ecosystem google assistant integration customization options all of that The point that I thought was interesting about this story is the fact that it is really hard To switch your ecosystem, right if you're in ios or android and you legitimately decide Hey, I think I might want to try the other side of the street It's not easy. No, it's it's not and I've Done it in the earlier days when I didn't have Everything mixed together, uh, you know from you know android to ios and back and forth But once I made a decision of what my computers were going to be And my tablet the phone and my this is just you know, my view Naturally had to fit into that and then they came out with things like handoff You know, then you have iMessage that is now on the desktop across your devices and and of course That's what they want you to do, right? I mean they want you to be locked in on it, but yeah, I finally increased on her I think these phones are great But if I try to throw an android phone in in the mix It just it messes up a lot of a lot of things in my workflow And I think a lot of people have that same issue The other issue is that a lot of us have bought a lot of things on on the iTunes store And you know from apps to movies to things sure could I have should I have done in Amazon? To to have to be neutral sure, but a lot of us don't Because it's just easier on the on the phone. So this this is a problem that we have as as reviewers Or I don't consider myself reviewer, you know, just so someone who's interested in gadgets You know, we get it early or we get it and we we want to we want to switch But it's like wow it's going to ruin everything if we yeah, it's like you did you got an lgg6 to try out It's like you'd love to just live with it, right? But yeah It's difficult. I'm not saying you can't do it But it's not as easy as like, oh, okay. Well, I'll just uh switch switch over to this phone and now access all my accounts I mean even even if you've got can replicate every app across the ecosystem Let's say you have been a person who's been dedicated to know I will only use cross platform systems You still have to log into all those which is kind of fade Yeah And then there's always something there's always a little thing we're like, oh, I guess I can't actually do that Or it's I want to I don't want to totally switch. I just want to try one out and snapchat Oh, I can only be logged into snapchat on one device at a time per You know or something stuff like that it gets in the way I and it makes it makes it hard. Yeah, I find this I know this was a question about phones, but I really find this um More prevalent in my opinion even and I'm just on computer side Because you know, I have great relationships with microsoft and you know acer They they make great products. You know the surface pro pro. I have access to all of that, you know, but I have max Not because I'm I am loyal dedicated to apple But because the software is streamlined for me and my workflow would be easier and it's very hard to like Get something in there to interrupt it now You know because I do video editing and other things if I use adobe Yeah, sure, but you know, but I don't I use apples stuff because it's a lot easier for me So it's it's it's one of those ongoing problems. Like I I would love One of the things they really in my opinion should happen windows What has was still 90 plus percent of the market they they should have had the handoff thing from the beginning They should have cross-platform messaging from from again. I mean they had all the the tools And I don't dislike windows. I just wish they had those tools Yeah And so you could do that you could sort of do it with hangouts, right? You could you could use google hangouts But that's google's changing how it does that. Yeah That's what I'm saying and then that's google's thing like I don't I just For windows to be so big. I wish they would have they could have easily killed that market and and it's always those little things I like you say and I think you're right most people aren't going to bother to use cross-platform every time They're going to find themselves like oh, I bought a bunch of movies in the itunes store I guess I I can't bring that to an android phone crap, right? That's going to be a problem But even if you do even if you're very careful about that and you say no, I'm only I'm going to be make sure I do disney movies anywhere And and only good like disney things through itunes or whatever or use amazon. Yeah Yeah, or use amazon or you or even google play right which you can do on ios That's right. Even if you do that, there's always something there's always a little thing and I'm glad you brought up laptops and desktops because one of the things and Again, it's not that you can't it's that you have to plan or work to do it One of the things I have on my os 10 or i'm sorry my mac os is a script Uh that was written by a wonderful woman named dorothy that allows me at one button to have a copy of all my tabs headline and links and it really is useful in preparing the show now I could replicate that on windows, but I didn't write the script dorothy did she doesn't work in windows So I then have to go and find someone who did that I've looked at extensions none of them work exactly the same way as the way I needed them to work Until it's just one of those things that one doesn't stop me from from using My surface book pro and enjoying it or my surface book and enjoying it But it is the one thing like oh right. I don't have a solution for that on this side right now Uh and and it is kind of a pain when you run into those things Yeah, and it's just hard for people like us, you know because you know you get the You know the the inevitable fans, you know, or you're just a fanboy. You don't want to switch it It's like no, it's just not it's not as easy as you think You know, we I just can't easily Do that without some consequence Yeah, or that one app or that one, you know, we do we do video editing We do blogging and and all kind of things and you just you just can't flip the switch on it So I don't know what the ecosystem sometimes they'll launch something for mobile But not for desktop and I won't use it. I'll be like no I'm not going to use that google calendar option until it's available everywhere My google calendar is because I don't want to start relying on it and then have it not be there right, right So, uh, well if you've got thoughts on this and I'm sure you do by all means send them to us feedback at dailytechnewshow.com Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit helps us pick these stories Keep them coming folks get in there and vote and submit at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Speaking of emails. We've got a few here rusty in chili and wet dc says. Hello, tom and team dts I have a question from the story about japan changing their policy on bitcoin being a currency Instead of a commodity how do vendors protect themselves against the sometimes large fluctuations in bitcoin value? Someone is going to make and or lose money on the spread between the transacted value of the bitcoin and the market value, right? uh That is an excellent question and part of the answer is that You don't actually have as much fluctuation as you used to so it may be less of a problem than it used to be also A lot of these systems and a couple of the ones we talked about yesterday work by the Customer has the bitcoin And when they go to pay the service that the retailer is using immediately translates it into currency So the retailer doesn't have to set the price in bitcoin and deal with any changes It's the user that has to deal with that. So a lot of it's put out under the user that way Okay, I don't understand bitcoin, but god you made that very easy to understand I'll really Jeff in ridiculously windy beaverton, origan says hey tom and company regarding the soft launch youtube tv service and the meth response to yet another streaming tv service Killer feature to me is that youtube kind of already solved the streaming and live video problem So I completely expect the experience to be way better than the offerings from other companies from the get-go Those other services had issues with stability for a long time after launch and he's right sling tv playstation Now they all did Yeah, and that and and so jeff makes a good point. I have been trying that youtube tv service I know you have to lamar and it's been pretty smooth. I gotta say on the on the phone. I did not expect it to be as slick as it was and I'm sorry to say like like this cause controversy But I almost feel like an apple an ios app, you know what? I mean it was an ios for me But like like it was developed by apple was it was it was like super slick easy to jump in Jumpers, you know into the different shows. They had little ways to go But like if anybody has streaming down It's it's youtube. So yeah as far as the the way it works. It's the best Uh, it's it it's dvr function is dead simple all the way you could flip through channels And it's almost like a new way of channel surfing Is great It's channel selection channel selection is the is the is really the the the only down the major downside for it Yeah, yeah, they don't have cnn or tnt or whatever Channel selection and apps because it's only chromecast as far as apps if you're not on mobile Yeah, i'm a playstation view person, but i'm definitely looking i mean since i'm already on youtube Definitely looking for this to get better Hey, and while we're talking about youtube i'm curious your thoughts on that 10 000 view limit That youtube announced yesterday about the monetization if people missed yesterday show youtube basically saying a creator Can't start making money off ads. In fact, they won't run ads on their videos until their channel gets 10 000 views in total in total which Which is because it was it's a way to filter out ads being put on garbage and then Yeah, i mean that's what we talked about yesterday one of the reasons is that keeps ads from showing up next to You know channels that are not legitimate or not so what i heard about it immediately i was like oh So the partner program that was years ago that they already had in place Which is the same thing the only difference is When you were applying for partnership, which basically meant you were eligible to get ads No one knew the criteria it could have been mine was that i got in at 35 000 total views And i and i had about 20 videos up And somebody else with a viral video make it in with one video and you know So it i like that there is is something that's there that says You know you need to cross this path before you reach 10 000 I think there's nothing wrong with it There's some people complaining that it's not fair to small creators, you know, they're not making any money It's like look you're losing you're not going to make 10 to 40 dollars if that's going to stop you From uh from your dream on youtube then maybe that's not really your dream I mean if you just looking for the money like it's a good barrier to say I'm going to work my butt off to get 10 000 views And then I could start the road to making a living out of this I think there's nothing wrong with it And I think it's smart for them to do They should never have gotten rid of the program to begin with but they were they wanted to make more money So they they gave everybody ads and now look where we are. Yeah I I feel like I agree with you on the creator side like and i did mention this yesterday The amount of money you make on 10 on the first 10 000 views is not enough So Granted, you know in a in a pure sense of fairness, maybe it's not great, but it does keep bad actors Out so yeah, I mean 10, I mean if they set a million then yeah, that's a little that's a little ridiculous, but but uh 10 000 Is it's it's good for you as a person to want to and this is my opinion just to work towards that Like to have a goal before you there was no goal There was no so no one really tried hard, you know Now maybe people try a little harder and and youtube even says this this this went into place in december It has nothing to do with the recent complaints about ads. Sure. Yeah, wink wink Tim Sinclair lee wrote in and was complaining because he he recently discovered a thing that has irritated me for a long time Which is if you use a vpn Which you should do when you're on public wi-fi or at a hotel or an airport You can't use a lot of services Hulu for the longest time has just blocked you if you're on a vpn that they know about they block you And tim and it went round and round with me on twitter. He's like, yeah, but wait a minute I'm in the united states, and I'm a united states customer I'm not trying to get around things and the problem is because of vpn can't Uh, it can't show where you are That's the point is that it doesn't show where you are They just assume that you're coming from outside the us and trying to appear like you're in the us Even if you're using us ip addresses with the vpn So tim says is there not a way for netflix and amazon to be able to access your location through something other than my ip address Which isn't a geographical locator anyway Such as gps on my device so that I can watch what I pay for while staying safe I'm reasonably sure that netflix and amazon are just being lazy about this Maybe as more people hear about vpns. They will change their methods I that's where to what it would take it would take enough people using vpn and practicing secure surfing That they started to hear enough complaints right now when they hear complaints. They say Sure, and you know, maybe There's five people complaining about you know, but not enough people are complaining and a lot of people who complain are really Just trying to get around our rules. So we're not gonna. We're not gonna care about it. They're just not taking it seriously Yeah, I agree with that now tim said I figured out that for amazon I can use the hotspot on my phone to start a download for offline viewing on my ipad without the vpn Then disconnect the hotspot turn on the vpn reconnect to the hotel wi-fi and it will complete the download So amazon only checks when you start the download. I haven't tried this on netflix downloads yet But you shouldn't at the world fly through all those So since you're knowledgeable about this more more than I am a quick question with the vpn if Most of the sites that we're using now facebook did it uh google twitter. We all went to hgt hgt ps the secure protocol Yeah, um, and and that secured your bank. So I'll have it you go to your bank app Why why the fear of of using I mean excuse me not fear, but why why the need to use the vpn for those situations? yeah, because When you're on let's say a hotel wi-fi there could be someone Conducting a man in the middle attack and yes If you are only connecting to hgt ps connections There's less of a chance of them being able to get in the middle of your connection But do you want to sit there and think about that and then worry and go well? Well, hey, hold on did did I actually log in was that an htp? Like and there are situations where even if you're making an hgt ps connection They could be able to sniff out your password in transit Uh, there there have been attacks like that. So the safest thing Is to in fact use a vpn because that that takes any of the doubt out of the equation It's like no they unless there's somebody inside the vpn. That's a whole different question They the people who are trying to snoop on hotel wi-fi are not going to be able to get you now the chances, you know the chances of Having something stolen when you're generally using htps are low And the chances go down that when you use a vpn But and I think that's what netflix and amazon are thinking are like, you know what most people aren't doing this anyway And the chances of something bad happening because of us Isn't enough to put pressure on us But if you want to be the most secure you use a vpn Okay, just to cover all your bases. Yeah, okay That way you don't accidentally do something stupid or some new vulnerability doesn't pop up in htps Uh that you fall victim to okay. Thank you. Yeah, appreciate that. At least I hope that's right No, you helped out a lot of people probably I hope so too. Uh, well also, uh, you helped out a lot of people by being here and chatting about this stuff, man It's great to have you well. I'm always Thankful and available to be on the show. Literally. I can be here every day. Just call me. Yeah single day I want to be here. Well, we'll be over the tom and lamar show. Let's do it. I'll bring the doughnuts I I'm I'm what if I'm on a diet? Okay. Here's to bring them though. So I really low zero calorie dough. That's That sounds good Uh, but if you know if people want lamar in their lives every day, you can do that, right? Yeah, you know, I've been speaking of every day. I've been doing a video every day so far in April It's kind of it's this thing called on youtube vita vlog every day in april or video every day in april So I uh, so far it's so good. I've been doing that So you check me out on youtube.com slash lamar wilson with two hours and I'm doing some cool stuff every day showcases some cool stuff from the nintendo xbox I even i'm i'm bagged a bed or as uh, roger will make me say a mattress Uh From purple so yeah, yeah, just all kind of cool lifestyle stuff Are you gonna count your daily tech news show appearance as your as your blog today? No, I have to come up with some I should have just had my camera on this whole time. That would have been the video Yeah behind the scenes that was fun shame on me. Oh well wish I would have thought of it earlier. Yeah also, uh finishing up his Draw something every today For just today is led for alta. No, you talk about zero calorie donuts. I should have drawn a zero calorie donut, man Oh man too late in the show, you know that guy that you drew is almost as if he's eating a zero calorie apple A little bit. Yeah, uh, yeah, you know you talked about switching ecosystems And this was my take on trying to how people were trying to switch ecosystems. It's funny um, you know, uh, you got the The apple gentleman down at the bottom who's taking a bite out of the apple and above him In gal in the galaxy. See I'm trying to bring in the galaxy Is the uh, samsung 8 hovering above him. He's saying I'm not ready to follow you not yet. And that's the way I feel I'm an ios guy and um, and just thinking about moving to another Another uh, another ecosystem, uh gives me uh much grief and a lot of stomach pain So it's easier to stay systems, man. If that's right, they were open systems. You could just swap in and out Yeah, but I understand why they don't it's too it's too difficult. I wish I I wish Amazon would just would have got it together. I would have just done amazon everything. Yeah. Oh my god I wish a boon to would have got it No, you know, it's sort of like between yes, it's like it's like it's like the marvel universe There's gonna be things here things here that not everything's gonna work together. So Well, this is cool though. I really like this is a pretty this is really pretty to be honest I tried I tried to do something pretty this week for everybody Um, uh, and this is available right now in my online store if you go to lend for all store dot com You can download it as a digital download or if you choose you can put me to work and create a uh An actual physical print that I will sign and send out to you. It's all up to you I give people options. 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We're live monday through friday 4 30 p.m Eastern at alphacic radio.com and diamond club.tv and our website is daily tech news show.com back on monday with veronica belmont talk to you then Who is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants.com Alrighty good show excellent day. I'm gonna take you up on that offer The doughnuts Donuts Wait, wait, wait the bed. What did I offer you? Wow play back the tape. Oh, no, no the uh, like, oh I'm here if you need me Oh that one. Yes. Okay. Yes So so soon we forget Um Top of the heap is way mo wait problems for uber. I think we had something similar way mo problems That we've used before uh breaking up is hard to do so hard to say I buy Tom will bring the doughnuts cow uber cow It's so hard Google adds a bit more PR AI visi privacy I parentheses phone can't say goodbye I fologetics Google adds a bit more pie visi pie like Yeah, I don't know. What do you think tom? Breaking up os hard to do Breaking up ios hard to do. Okay Looks like you spelled iso wrong, but sure No small small eye big I like that one I'm indifferent. Well nice to meet you indifferent. That's my different face I have no opinion. It's not a different face. That means you just like something. No, no just like it's like Yeah, oh, I thought that was just a thing you did for the spin shots No All right guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna bow up Um, all right bow house Bow house. Yes, I'm gonna bow house. Oh by the way, tom Next friday as it is good friday. Are you uh, are you running a show or no? I do. I usually do the show on good friday. Okay Uh, I may or may not be here depending on what I'll let you know the day. Yeah. Yeah, no worries But you want us just to assume you're out just in that way you can you don't feel pressured You can surprise us and tell us if you want to show. Yeah, why don't we do it that way? I will surprise you with my presence Excellent. All right, guys. Have a good weekend everybody. It's good seeing you Lamar. Hey likewise, buddy. Take care. Thanks, man. Take care. We'll see you. Bye Oh, the holiday is coming up, isn't it? Yeah Not I don't work at schools anymore. I never know when holidays pop up La Semana Sacramento Um, what was it? It's sacramic Oh Yeah, the Spanish television has been having all the stories about all the traffic as holy week begins Interesting. I love watching spain Spanish television in spain because they cover holiday like all the holidays Really really heavily like mardi gras. They had tons of stories about mardi gras because they love having parties Yeah, they do and it's a good thing Well, let's just to drown your sorrows and to forget That's why they sent columbus. Oh, he just wanted to have one big party. Yeah, I did go Go over there. What was it Columbus? Yeah, but you said about his fan here So I thought they sent columbus because he was like kind of a downer at parties They get it. Yeah. Yeah, go in the world. It is around get the italian out of here. My god Yeah, we know it's round here take some of our second Our second sons because all they're doing on is lean about Horses too take some horses Yeah, just get out of here But the world she is around Just like that wasn't an italian accent Portugal what's at the world Sounds like you know what you're doing is you're doing mario It's me Columbus Oh god, don't do oh, that's in my head now He's just a rise columbus and luigi discovering america Oh Oh god Nintendo's discover america mashup. Is that what you're imagining now? Yeah, exactly. We yeah, they need to be a video now So, what are you playing on your switch these days? um, so I took a break from zoda because I finished it but my friend group Has been relentless and like finishing like all the shrines and things to now. I have to like go back And yeah, they've threatened. You know challenge me. So I had to go back and do that But yeah, I but I played um that new snake game That's snake. Yeah um Where you it's remember that okay, what's the good? Remember that that video game with the when you were like the octopus, but you were pretending to be a man Oh, wow that does ring a bell. What was it octodad octodad octodad. Yeah, so Yeah, so it is the mechanics are a little a similar you're you're literally a snake You have to like move the controls as if you're a snake and and go over hurdles I just started but it's actually really colorful and fun. Okay. Um, I've been playing the The rmx game is the racing game Um, and that's all yeah, and that's all they have no That's it. You play all the games. Yeah No, I it is funny since I've been moving and doing things the last couple weeks I have played very little video games. Yeah, like I'm desperate to get to mass effect And I just haven't had a chance yet poor poor link is probably starving because I ever since we adopted the dog The new dog. I've been pouring all my extra time into that. So And I hope I'm late to the game for you for this new dog. Uh, how what is he or she? She is between one and two years, although I'm pretty sure she's closer to a year older. Okay Now how was your current dog taken to it? I know he's very active He was really excited at first because he he'd like to have a playmate and she's young enough that she's got energy and everything So the first week was was great. It was they were angels Then then suddenly she got comfortable enough to be like, no, you can't do that And he's really pushy our old dog Jango just kind of gave up and just let him do whatever and didn't bother But now he's she's kind of pushing back like what no, I'm not gonna let you take a toy out of my mouth Forget so there's a little bit of uh of getting used to each other You got it. So the honey the honeymoon is over. Yeah, it's not like they're fighting They're not like getting into fights But there there have been a couple of little standoffs and barks at each other like hey, no, you can't do that Yeah, it's it's it's your story. Then Sawyer starts moping like oh, I didn't get my way And then goes off and lays down in size. Yeah, yeah, he spoiled The way I think it's probably good for him. Yeah So all right So you got you got the other dog just a really compliment Sawyer was it more for him or more? We actually uh, well, we like having two dogs nice and We actually said described Sawyer when we went To the west side german shepherd rescue and said this is the kind of dog we have and they recommended Libby was her name in the shelter. We're calling her ray Um, well, they have a specific german shelter german shepherd shelter. Yeah, there's a uh, there's a place down on south hill street south la that does specifically german shepherd and german shepherd mix Uh rescue. Oh, okay That's cool. Yeah, I didn't I didn't know they That must be a big enough rescue Yeah for for popular breeds a lot of times there will be places that specialize like that like there's a there's a lab rescue there's a What you call it the little pugs there's a pug rescue It's like people who just really know a breed really well this side. Yeah Yeah, my friends are Young saying you need a pet in this in this place. I was like Yeah, so it's either going to be two cats or a dog that doesn't bark a lot And I don't know what breed does not bark a lot because I don't want to bark her when I leave That's just yeah, I know they're well the barking when you leave is all about uh separation anxiety And you we our dogs don't bark when we leave Um, but it's two of them people come over though And that's a problem and some of that is just learned So some of it is just our failure as parents not to try them not to do it Yeah, but yeah, there are dogs. There are breeds that bark more than others. Yeah So, um Yeah, for those listening, let me know on twitter if you have any ideas Hello, morose. Ray doesn't really bark hardly at all Even when Sawyer does she doesn't really join in so she's just not a barking kind of dog. Yeah Yeah From what I heard cats don't bark. So I might you know, I might no if you get a barking cat You should put that on your videos. Yeah, I'm gonna be rich very related. It's very closely related to a tree cat. Yeah I'm gonna be rich barking up a tree, huh? That sounded like a goat Have you seen those good goat videos on youtube where they just scream? Oh, that's like so Yeah, I know, but that's what I'm saying I thought you like I thought you just like just saw one. No All right Be referenced to youtube that's older than a year Oh my god, that's like the middle ages No, it's the way you said it. You didn't say like, oh, it's like those goat videos on youtube You said have you seen that made it sound like hey, there's a new thing Have you read about the middle ages? Have you read about the advantage? For a bit Have you seen that maher guy? Have you heard about the enlightenment period? Have you heard about the scientific method? Hey, remember that time when you woke up? And and you got out of bed. Have you ever done this? Open your eyes Actually, here's one. Have you ever woken up and Don't ever remember falling to sleep like ever like you don't remember like you're just in bed like that's every night I'd never remember falling asleep ever I remember well No, no, that's a good thing. That means I passed out. I was tired. That's that's I When I go to bed and I mean to go to sleep I usually go to sleep I don't remember the point I fall asleep. No, no, no, no not that but I mean like you don't even remember getting in bed Oh, that's not what you said. Okay. Yeah I mean outside of alcohol related incidents. I never had that happen. Yeah No, no, it's like I don't remember coming into the bed Yeah, I've had it where I've been sitting watching television or something and then wake up and we're like, oh my gosh I fell asleep like I didn't mean to fall asleep. Yeah But I've never actually gone into bed woken up in bed and been like, huh I don't know what I'm doing here. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's never happened because I don't drink really and I never want to drink to that point so You want a few you you believe in the homeopathic passing out? Yeah, yeah, I even take natural stuff when I have to I I take natural sleep aids until I just pass out man. I took so many natural sleep aids last night I used to watch the uh, I used to watch the late late show with uh, what's the name before it got interesting Who's that guy back from 98? It was literally it was Oh, brian. No, no tom something. It was like the most boring show before letterman No Oh, it was a late late show It was came off it was before what's his name from um that scottic Alan thick He had a talk show it lasted a week tom snider. Yeah, tom snider. Uh, thank you knots and be Thanks for thanks for paying attention and No, that thing used to put me this I would purposely leave it on because He had that am radio voice that just yeah, like when you're driving late at night Well, let's leave now. We're going to talk to you. Yeah, I find I finally and I rated to be the most dangerous to listen to when you drive Because it blows you into a sense of like It's like no, so I so I went and bought because normally in my last place, uh, I will Falsely, yeah, they have a team in the bedroom So sometimes I was falsely on the couch just watching You know, it's people on on stream like playing video games on twitch Uh, but you know now with that tv in the bedroom, it doesn't have twitch as app even on the apple tv or Or on this same song. So I went about a crumb cast ultra yesterday. First of all 69 dollars, um Yeah for the ultra. Yeah I I paid it, but I was like good lord that was I just I thought it would be cheaper than that Because you need to see your twitch and 4k man. I I don't know what's streaming is 4k So it's like I bought the 60 dollar thing just for for twitch, but I falsely Uh, very nicely last night leaving a streamer on. Yeah, nice. Uh, so it worked. Yeah Do you ever wake up and the twitch streamer has fallen asleep? No, no, I've actually never yeah, I watched the people on marathon I've never had anybody fall asleep yet. I've seen people. I mean willy deals. Gregory, uh, who's in our greater podcast family Has famously fallen asleep on his stream. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, you're not like You can't it's a let me say legal. It's against the rules to Go to sleep purposely. Yeah, right, right to have a sleep stream. But yeah, I I've never had anybody fall asleep That's gonna be funny All right. Well, we are published and the podcast is wending its way into people's inboxes now. So Thanks everybody for watching or listening or if there's some other way you enjoyed the show that doesn't involve either one of those Morse code. Yeah So don't go away. Lamar. I need to talk to you. I understood Don't go away. Lamar