 Okay, we're actually hiring for the podcast believe it or not this seat is open. We have guys. I bought merch He's still not welcome on the podcast Okay, wow guys we were supposed to start at eight. Okay. Well, okay, just nothing happened. We can't tell you what happened You'll see. Oh, yeah. Oh Brendan broke his microphone. That's what happened. Look at it. Oh my goodness Um So what was gonna happen is we're gonna talk about something and then Jake, of course spoiled it Like normal and then we talked about it like three four days ago. When did we have our meeting your hair is out of control? But you know what? No, I'm gonna look too much like Stefano. He's growing his hair. You're curls cuz Italian. Oh, he's Italian, too Anyways, that's so I'm not gonna. Oh, yeah, you are you're shaking the camera The girls are fighting Okay, so there's a reason we're delayed and I'm telling you Okay, Craig and convochers because Craig has been on the team since you con Would you say that what just happened over the last hour is probably some of the most dramatic? Information slash finding out of something we've ever gone through ever. Yeah complete change in direction like not to not Release too much. Yeah, like obviously we can't say but Something happened where we had to literally sit there and research Then kind of go over some facts then kind of like collect ourselves and then also kind of feel like a little guilty for the last like Three months. It's kind of funny. I'm gonna give Brendan a lot of But okay in our defense with what the surveys were showing this and by the way, this isn't us confirming that this isn't gonna happen We're gonna talk about it at some point. Don't worry Yeah, everything we know that we just learned in the last hour. We are gonna talk about in this podcast Don't worry. You guys are gonna find out before tomorrow's construction update But holy crap I Had a fever. I had a fever. I was I was getting huge energy spikes I had a fever. He was like a red tomato. Yeah, you're like a red tomato in the summer But But see the red I see no difference The camera feels way closer than normal. Did you guys do something? No, did you do maybe you're sitting closer? I think we just never had a full face camera. Oh, true true true. Yeah, okay, so Jake. How was your week? Okay, last night I was really stressing about this question. I didn't know what to say What I was I was sleeping in bed, right? And I was trying to fall asleep and then all I'm a floor. I don't know Anyway, I was in bed and then I know every single week Brennan's like asked me this question What would you do this week? And I it's the same thing every week. Nothing I was so stressed about it. So next week, I'm going skiing to Mount St. Louis with my brother Which I haven't seen in a while, so I'm excited to do that. Yeah, I'm his brother I'm going Jake also learned something this week. Oh Oh, you were not doing this you learned something didn't you? Would you like to tell the crowd what you learned? Would you like to tell the audience what you learned? No Anyway, I can't believe you did that How is your week guys, I heard you had a big event on Tuesday my week. Oh Yeah, that was this week. We haven't even been live yet since that happened. Can we even talk about that? I didn't even ask what oh No, we can't talk about like nothing like that. It even happened to any of it. I Have no idea I forgot we haven't anything since that happened Yeah, well, I think I did talk about it. We had a meeting with Wonderland. We had a meeting with there Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, that's why I shaved so I looked a little bit more present. That's why I shaved I'm serious. So I looked present. So you'll shave for Wonderland But you won't shave when I ask you to shave for a video because you're not important Wonderland is important. What don't you understand? He doesn't want a getting banned from Wonderland Anyway, Jake was learning a lesson I mean my week sucked I had an ear infection all week and I had to put drops in it and lie dormant like an idiot for 30 minutes three times a day And they still didn't fix it. They made it worse Feels like there's water in there now My week I didn't ask actually You asked us How was your week Brendan? Well, I learned a lot about my car today I learned that you have to change your engine filter, right? The air filter for the engine The air filter for the engine Kregor showed me how to do that which is different than the cabin air filter. Yeah So that was interesting mine was really clogged up and next week Krega will teach me how to do an oil change As long as you figure out where we're disposing of this oil We'll just dump it on Wonderland. That's I'm kidding. Oh my god. What a way to ruin With that being said without further ado welcome to the podcast This might be our juiciest podcast we've ever made Truthfully because we're about to talk about something that might be completely useless in about 30 seconds And then we're gonna get to the good stuff, but I want to say That this project is really confusing for several reasons so before we get into it One we have the survey so for those of you that remember the survey that Wonderland sent out it had a rendering on it It had wing coaster trains or invert coaster trains or flying coaster trains And it came out of the mountain and headed back over and then headed back over to vortex and then it came back out, right? Echoing How did it change what change it was perfect all last On the top of your mic. No, also somebody said Green Day in the in in patron chat. I don't know why but I agree. Yeah Testing testing Okay, just turn off do it the other way then hello just mute your mic and give this to Brendan Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, because it was working earlier. It's so muted. You know what it might have been though I was playing with the mic again Okay, it's all right. Okay, is this good doesn't get a mic anymore. That's better wait wait. Did it stop? Oh, everyone's saying it stopped. Yeah, I was doing I was doing this with the mic in the in them So it's these bikes. Okay. Is this working? Well, you didn't unmute it. We didn't unmute the mic Is this working now welcome back. Is this working now? Hello, everyone. Keep that keep your mic away from me, Craig It's okay. I want to say yeah, okay M M says yes. No. Yes. It's not better. Is it better? It looks fine That's echoing. Okay. Wait what? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. We're good. Okay. It's fine If it gets bad just influx the okay. Can my mods tell me if I echo I trust in okay anyways What was I saying now because oh The new the next thing and then you're gonna say it's completely useless. Okay, so No, I was explaining so it needs a storyline. That's how epic this podcast is going to be it needs a whole storyline So wonderland posts a survey right and it has its wing invert flying coaster trains in the survey It says board your winged train and launch through a sub jungle terrain type thing Um, and it showed its location So when wonderland started doing construction and construction marking started popping up out of the only tunnel into the mountain that would leave um It's back now. Okay, so Hello, we're gonna do this Friend of your mic sucks. I know wait. Well, it's gotta be something with my computer It might have been something with the cables, but doesn't it doesn't matter. Okay. Anyway, so Um, one would think that that's gonna be the launch tunnel. Correct Um, I know everyone thought it I thought it and it's still a possibility. It's still a possibility We're not ruling it out completely because there's been a lot of jumping to conclusions around that but we We we came across we came a kind of what's the best way to word this We came across something tonight and it would suggest it makes it just makes sense And I'm going to explain it in in great detail on today's podcast. So when we get to the slide we'll explain it but We no longer think that extreme sky flyer was removed for the 2025 coaster And we no longer think that the 2025 coaster is gonna head um into the mountain that way nor use international show place Nor go behind the scenes behind pizza pizza and all that This might have a bigger footprint than We may have thought um and it may it You'll see when we get there. Do you have anything else to say before everybody's complaining about your mic, you're probably holding it too close to your face Uh, wait am I echo wait, what's it's clipping you're probably just oh, okay. Okay. So I need to talk like this You could just move the microphone further back. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm excited though these microphones. So you got to eat the mic People usually stress eat not happy eat your mic's fine. Okay. Um, I'm really excited. I'm really excited So any do you guys have anything to say before we move on? Okay, no don't let jake say anything before Like you hear you So here's a tunnel It's a great tunnel They're currently installing piles and cement. So today The tunnel look there's the cement truck right there. It's because it's so far away Look how blurry when I ultra zoom in and clip the photo especially this far Well, you can hardly tell you can barely make out the cement truck. Oh that that's a cement truck. That's a cement truck. Yeah Eat the mic So Before we found it a bit of information We were measuring things because we learned that the tunnel wasn't expanding We originally thought the tunnel was going to move over about one meter on either side due to the little circles But the circles and then the cement actually accounted for no movement of space with this tunnel So this ruled out an invert and a wing coaster because it was too small. That was part of our our conclusion And then furthermore we measured um thunderbirds total width here and it was too large to fit into these tunnels So that was a part of our information that we were going to present to you guys today to further rule out The wing coaster because we had ruled out the invert and the flyer Um, the wing coaster can no longer be ruled out fully Uh, it doesn't mean we think that's what's gonna happen because I can tell you right now Um, I am fully almost on board With something and I want to explain something to you guys And I this what I'm about to say to you is a reach So please understand and take this with a huge grain of salt But I just don't understand why a ride manufacturer would follow me. I'm not going to say who But if you guys investigate somewhere on one of my social media platforms a ride manufacturer has followed me Um, and they only follow 37 accounts so No other enthusiast accounts, by the way, no, they do they follow No, it's like a california park and a florida park and yeah cedar point so Um, do your search do your search. I just don't want to call it out because then they'll unfollow You know what I mean? Like so you guys can do your own and then you can look for it and thing, but Um, I just wanted to say that I block them um So with that being said Do you guys have anything to say about this whole theory that we were going to talk about before in We did do some measurements that we can't verify, right of the new tunnel That we can or can't because that's a guesstimation. Yeah Well, nothing that we say. Yeah, because we can't use google earth either on that end of them the mountain Yeah, we're trying to measure using the machine Yeah, so we were using excavators and measurements online of that equipment. So that's okay. We are talking about that Yeah, yeah, you were a part of this. So you talk about it. You go. This was your thing We're talking about the second tunnel that we found, right? I'm not exposing anything wrong They know about the second tunnel. Okay, so but thank you for asking asking why It doesn't help it no matter I wouldn't have changed anything so I don't know we found a whole yeah We found the machine and we found the machine that was sitting in the hole Basically, it was like in the hole and in our photo. We found the machine's model number It's coming. Okay. We found the machine's model number. We looked it up We got the width of that machine and then guesstimated about how many machines I think what was it two and three quarter machines would fit in there Yeah, two and a half. Oh, they can barely hear you. It ended up being 6.1 meters 6.2 something. Well, I don't know. Yeah, and a wind coaster train is seven meters. So at the minimum clearance is seven meters Yeah minimum so So a wind coaster would still be really tight in here, but they can make it work Um, but I have another theory If we see another hole cut out in this mountain Then then it might have a big problem. Yeah, swiss cheese more than it's gonna be a mountain. Um, but Next time you switch the page um Um, I forget what my images are. So can I just see this for a second? Oh, okay. So we'll talk while he's talking Yes, this is what we wanted. So Zamperla is something that I want to get in your guys's heads for a couple of reasons So I want to explain a theory that has no backing behind it. Um, that I can't tell you for sure is true but I've heard in the rumor mill And the only reason I don't believe it fully and I haven't said it in a video and I'm saying it on the podcast I'm telling you to take this with the biggest grain of salt and not to believe it Is that cedar fair purchased three Zamperla models of the lightning train and everything and have actually bought exclusive rights to this coaster for a two to three year period something like that um, so they bought three models all at once and The reason I find this interesting is because wonderland was a hundred percent exploring a different model Of coaster for the mountain originally as you saw in their survey. I do not believe it was a red herring um Because I feel like when they're doing these surveys it is to get the guests like feedback but I do believe because if you remember we saw survey markings popping up around the mountain And then we saw newer survey markings taking place again around the beginning of haunt. Yeah, and the first markings were July the 10th for anybody who's worrying. There's a construction update that day. I don't think anybody's worried. Yeah so, um I find it interesting uh, because there was somewhat of a change and Without revealing anything in particular krega and I had heard that there might have been a change of plans Or a change in budget right And I think that's all I can say and that aligns with this as well. So it's it's really interesting. So we heard it from jake Oh my god. No, we did not First of all ride people don't know anything But with that being said Zamperla Tested top thrill 2 really early We're talking December December December. They uploaded it in December And I don't know if many of you know you can go there Antonio Zamperla did an interview in another country and you have to translate it Thank you to jd and discord for doing this He's actually ridden the ride already in january in the cold without a plc. Yeah without a plc and everything um, so There was a hundred percent in my opinion Kind of like what's the right word to use where it's like all eyes are on that project And I think that's a reason as well But I think the main reason all eyes are on Zamperla right now And why cedar fair would want to work with this company over let's say even b&m Is the train design. That's why I have it on the screen for you right now The train design actually do you want to describe you you'd be better at this you're more of athusie Yeah, so um the trains They get every single season every single ride Sorry trains at least they all get taken apart and rebuild every single season That's it's a lot of work depending especially for trains that have a lot of bolts These trains the lightning trains are milled if so if you guys don't know what that means that means It's a one big solid block and that's just like drilled out with like a drill and there's no welds There's no bolts. It's just one big piece of honka metal that it's a honka metal That's what that's that's how I'm going to describe it a bunch of bolts in this video Yeah, but that's a wheel carrier not the frame the chassis the check that's what I'm saying is There's less less things that they have to take apart and put together and inspect every single morning Which is cheaper on maintenance costs. Um, then they can go to other rides a lot quicker that sort of thing Um, and then same with the seats for this ride. So the the seats have five or six foam panels instead of being one big foam panel Um, so if uh, there's a problem to a foam panel They can just take off that one of the five instead of having to replace the whole seat And it's much easier to order it that way as well From zamparilla, which makes it cheaper for them because instead of having to order a whole seat They only order this one panel for example. It's interesting because uh, I'm more time You more time Am I saying that right? They bring up a good point that when they were testing top through two more survey markings were popping up Now if you're doing your research Then here's the milling process by the way on the screen as you see So It's interesting. So I just want that for food for thought Um Well, what are your thoughts on zamparilla? I have no nothing about this company even a little bit That was so insightful. They made time warp Well, they don't have my vote. Okay, no Can you explain to kregor now the evolution of zamparilla? So they made time warp obviously not a lot of people like it Okay It's an understatement Um, but now they have I'm not going to use the word stolen But they have taken a couple of people from intimate, which is also in italy Not taken but like people from who used to work at intimate now work at zamparilla In addition with a whole bunch of coser and thesis type people Who now work who are also engineers who now work at zamparilla and also in italy Um, and they've tried to refresh their company And I do believe the top thrill 2 kind of thing the top thrill 2 thing is like their show off here. Look at this Now go buy a product from us Yeah Yeah, so like the same people who made trains go from them the people who made peanuts 500 at wonderland also made this They made peanuts the mall rides. Yeah the mall rides like if you go to von mills All those rides are made by zamparilla and now they're making top thrill 2 Yeah Um We're about to throw you upside down like literally upside down So I do want to apologize any footage we have of this area moving forward Is going to be blurry and it's going to be really hard to make out anything. We're not going to be able to make out stakes We're not going to be able to make out you have no idea how far we have to fly To get this angle. I had krega go to a baseball diamond god that we didn't even know existed and this is Stretching and everything and it's really bad quality. I apologize That's about as good as it's going to get this is as good as we're going to be able to cover this tunnel So, um, unless you don't want to see the tunnel That's true. That's true unless you don't want to see the tunnel there. Yeah, so I You go you go we need to correct jake here first of all intimate is not in italy It is Okay, I believe you it's okay Don't worry you are a more reputable source um This By the way, this is the machine we measured. Yes to get the sizes. No, no, we measured the big yellow one That's hidden behind the tree there. Oh we did so Intim sorry, can I can I just finish one thing? Intamin has a headquarters in italy not that it is main in italy It has a headquarter in italy. It might be swiss. It might be german It might be whatever this is, but it has a headquarters in italy Roast him everyone roast That's great. Um, so yeah, I know velasa coaster Can I I didn't get to explain this velasa coaster was in the intro because Zamperla doesn't have any Like rides open currently that I can use to resemble what I think we would be getting um, so yeah With that being said what you guys are most likely looking at Is the launch tunnel? truthfully um, this isn't really a guess But like obviously jake, especially to keep your mouth shut It's not a guess, but it's a guess. Yeah like um This yeah, so I don't know. What do you have to say about the tunnel? I guess right now I'm I'm flustered still which tunnel this one the good one. This is a nice looking tunnel I guess we didn't touch on the last tunnel. So I thought we had a town. Yeah, okay, so we did. Okay, so the reason number one why You should be looking at this tunnel now why we should be looking at this tunnel now Is the original concept would have had a lot more action going on in the maintenance tunnel area So for example, there's a generator Um over there, right a generator. There's old scenery. Um the old props from Uh orbiter, uh, what's saying one sec? Everybody wants jake to talk Wait, wait, what? Say what anything because he's gonna reveal something Oh Because jake revealed some really important information last week was it last week Two weeks ago jake revealed some of my biggest information that someone worked really hard on in our discord server to find for me Um, and jake just blurted it out in the hangout stream that I had to delete Um, so 56 of you got to see that information. It's on patreon now It is on patreon now. Thanks for the description. Um Shameless promotion Oh man, um So now i'm telling jake and jake doesn't know everything anymore. We yeah, they stopped telling me we stopped because we can't tell you things You mean we stopped We didn't even tell jake about this whole for like a whole day like I had to watch the construction update Why you watch those You're the one who flies the drone He doesn't do a very good job at it Like I I'm on youtube. I want I see construction update. I I watch the construction update. I'm like, oh my god. There's a new tunnel Why don't I know about this? um, okay So let's get back into it and grab duct tape brennan. It's so funny We were going to start the podcast with him with duct tape on his mouth, but then we thought youtube would like Yeah, it would flag it So what was it going? Oh, I was going on we have seen zero action over in that area except for extreme sky flyer um I can confirm that wonderland is going to explain more in detail in about a week or two why extreme sky flyer was removed um That's at least that's our impression that there'll be more information in a really cool video That's going to come out in about a week or two from wonderland So that'll be really cool. Um, and they're going to touch on everything like vip areas and all that and the front gate So that'll be cool. Oh what? That's it. That's all the video is going to cover Is it? yeah okay, uh I'm being told to shut up. Um It's okay if people are saying it's your turn to speak. I got nothing you can't I don't even remember yesterday trust me I don't remember anything Craig is really trustworthy. Craig has known some of amusement insiders biggest secrets and it's never left and it's now It's never left his mouth Not once Jake But with that being said we've seen zero action over there Now what I want you guys to understand is if you've watched my videos tundra twister uconn striker So let's go back to uconn striker. I'll ask krega this question krega What was located at uconn striker's construction near the station? There was an office on a trailer a site office. Yes an office on a trailer I was gonna say side off. Okay. Jake wants to participate. So Jake. What was located at tundra twister? I didn't watch the construction updates You said you were my biggest fan back then. Yeah back then not not in our last year He took a year gap at two years You're a coaster fan Do you know what was there? Yeah, I know it was there and just messing with you It was the same construction trailer. See look how this is accurate right here This krega was probably too scared to leak anything. Yeah, I did kind of scare krega back then Now I'm just smart Um krega will sometimes look at jake and be like you're in so much trouble. There's like um like a new ride or anything That trailer will pop up and I've told you guys this constantly wherever that trailer pops up Pay attention pay attention, especially if it's being set up. So in tomorrow's update pay attention Yeah Bro if you want to see t listen to brendan in line for a ride I heard some real t in line for leave. I'll you have a habit of just hitting information and then screaming it I get really excited. I'm up with a lung screaming. I get really excited. He starts bouncing in his seat I do like bounce. I'm like, oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god But when we're out in public everybody in public knows that you can't okay. Everyone's telling me to focus Everyone's telling me to focus we're losing control Okay, so the construction trailer did not pop up at that tunnel guys it didn't go it didn't move it stayed parked It was not there okay They are just doing maintenance on a maintenance tunnel that tunnel will serve as a maintenance tunnel when it reopens And nothing in that area will be affected What will happen is there will be a coaster coming out of this hole um And it's gonna head somewhere in my opinion Is it is it this one? Yes, it's this one, right? Yep. Okay You have two options in my opinion. Okay, that doesn't mean there's only two options But how could we not think of this? Truthfully because we didn't see the hole in the mountain. Yeah, that's true But there is a lot of room for a coaster A lot of green area hard to get to Did we specify how wide that tunnel was? It was estimated to be like six and a half between like six point one and six point five meters Yeah, six point one and six point five meters, but that is not accurate So take that like as an estimate because we use the width of the truck Like and then it could be something with the angle of the drone That sort of thing so it's not a hundred percent. So I want to I want to discuss something so the red path. Okay the red path There has been some action in the entrance to the tunnel Where you see that final red arrow? So nothing of significance yet But definitely something that we want to keep an eye on if there's another hole that forms Then that's where the coaster can go in right? There has to be a point of exit and a point of entrance Unless the coaster is starting somewhere in the orange plot of land And just heads into the mountain and loops back over that's a possibility too Um, but if it starts in the mountain, it's going to need to come back into the mountain So the red path is something it could also do an orange and then come back in on another hole But I feel like they would have cut that out right now Yeah, another thing is um, if they're only going to have one entrance and exit of the mountain It's highly likely they could have like a spike because then they would only want to have one entrance and exit Instead of making it a full loop Exactly because a full loop is more expensive than a hole in the top of the mountain and a hole in the front If they have two holes in the front and then one in the top now we have more problems. Yeah Not that that's a problem. It's just more expensive now if all is wrong And the coaster is still using that maintenance tunnel the blue line Then it would obviously head towards extreme sky flyer So This is a bomb shell. Okay. This is a bomb shell um, truthfully This hit us like a ton of bricks In the red line that you uh, hashtag 2025 Is that where you put it? Where's that? I don't want to say it just in case but this Oh maple park not going to keep that to me right now Even though you just you said it I didn't say it Um, okay, I should I say it I'll say it then it's it's too late. Um, so at the beginning of the season Which doesn't align with this theory though Is white on the camera. Oh, yeah, there we go. It was quick, Grega um maple park and flying eagles Had a lot of survey markings on it and if you look at the tunnel exit an entrance that's being built That's that red arrow that red arrow that's exiting the mountain It aligns perfectly straight with where those survey markings would have been so Uh, those weren't ai generated images by the way, we found the artist So I can confirm that someone did put a lot of hard work into that and that was a plan Um, and it's the same dude that designed Um king's islands expansion the same dude that designed, um topville 2 So, yeah, so I don't know if you guys can look at it. Let's go back Especially later on the day. I think this is an image from this morning Um, it they they're digging down They're digging down. It's very hard to see it's dark It's not there's a tunnel wall um, essentially So Yeah, um, there's a there's a it's not a tunnel wall. There's a wall. There a cement wall Um, and yeah, you can even see it that truck is kind of on. Yeah, the truck is just in front of it And later on the day they were actually cutting open that cement wall Um, yeah, so and and they're digging down like they're not digging straight. They're digging down That transition was sick. Thank you um, but Yeah, um, I also You're gonna learn something tomorrow that supports This whole theory that the coaster is going to be on this side of the mountain to be honest One you have the construction trailer the construction site trailer and then tomorrow you guys are going to learn about a completely um New thing I told you guys to remember the dumpster Um, yeah, I think it's really obvious that the coat what I don't remember the dumpster You flew the drone you filmed that What dumpster I think we need to drop you off at a doctor after we do weren't you already at a doctor this week? Yeah, then they broke me more So Things are getting interesting and elpin is going to get a lot of money For sure and the thing is with having an attraction on that side of the park It helps balance outside the park because we have Yukon and behemoth on one side And then hopefully the station will be on this side on the other side next not next to you But yeah, it's same distance from Yukon to behemoth as you Leviathan and this new ride hopefully Um spread out the the weight Oh, yeah, I'm not in favor of the red line. I'm I don't think I think it would be really cool It goes by look at all the swing radius of shock wave Yeah, there's way too many things in that way. This was the red line is jake's idea. So if that ends up being right Kudos to jake, but that's a lot of work There was a lot of survey markings. There was but elpin's also getting an upgrade right Mm-hmm But snow all over again Is he upset did I break jake? Um you prefer blue. I know a lot of people probably do prefer blue, but I I believe this is just a maintenance orange. What do you mean? You prefer blue? Orange is awesome Think about it all the rides in that area are low to the ground attractions antique cars. I like orange I'm team orange Now the only question is it'd be really hard to get over there, but guys You have to remember the prayer building had survey markings on it the fly All over it the fly had survey markings all over it. Okay No one looked for construction markings or survey markings in the antique cars in the train ride So for all we know there could have been signs all along that we were ignoring Because we were so focused on a survey that wonderland put out and we were focused over here They threw you off your set. Yeah, they really did So the construction office is set up right next to the fly and it usually gets set up right where it needs to be set up You gotta remember it's close to the the station They're not gonna walk 1500 kilometers between the side office and the site Every time they need to go there. That's something they need to access pretty often There's plans. There's blueprints. I'm sure the guys lunches are in there too. Everything's in the fridge The fridge is the lunch fridge literally If it's orange it would be like more of like an out-and-back design like and it would be higher off the ground because there's other But again, this is all speculation everything we say. Yeah Can you imagine it's the mock spinner? We get the mock spinner after all. Let's go to the next best topic Oh, he wants this How do you forget this Pass the mic to the Levi boy guys. Look it's so beautiful Oh Okay, so there's front gate upgrades going on As you can see you can't see but there are They're adding What can I see? It's really hard to see the weld joints because I'm on the I'm on the splash work side of the field So like underneath Leviathan As of last year when you come in from the park on the major max side If you walk under there's like a little a net that kind of reaches out three or four feet other side They're putting this on most of the hammerhead From what I as you can see on the screen now This is to protect from loose articles and things falling off the right and hitting people in the front gate area I thought honestly, it was going to be like the big net like the uconn one underneath that I thought it was going to be something really big like that. That would have been easier for them to do Yeah, they need like four points. I don't know. I thought that would be uglier. This is going to look It's going to look a lot better than one big massive net. Yeah, it looks really cool from afar I'll tell you guys it almost gives the track character. Yeah Texture, yeah, we should have taken a picture of it for my driveway. Yeah, that's true. We should have But yeah, I'm not at the most boring topics done. Oh, do you have anything to say? Yeah, this ride sucks. It's beautiful Look at the color. Is it is it blue? I saw it from my driveway and I was like, are they making it worse? And then I found out they were Also, can we talk about this real quick? I mean I I can because Jake can't They added this picture is kind of garbage, but you can see it when you're standing at my house They added The things for the nets where the ride does this on the top of the curb. Yeah, which is weird What is a net going to do when you're like this? Guess what? It's going to fall on the ground anyway Yeah, it doesn't make sense the netting design at the top. I think it's pointless regardless I don't know what they were thinking You have anything else to say about Levi. It's beautiful. Do you miss it? He's not getting the mic back Until Leviathan is off the screen I'm so excited for May 3rd Leviathan You're gonna. Yeah, anyways, stop giving this guy access to things Um, shall we do screen capture? Worked okay messed up. Okay. So let's do is that a line? Oh perfect. That's if you click You gotta click it. Okay. Yeah, and then you gotta like click and drag to make the line. Okay Yeah, no, it was maple tree park So dead set straight out. I'm gonna draw a couple designs for you guys. So let's say that they were going to go with A top thrill too clone This is kind of like The path the trajectory that it would head so just to put that in your head That's not me saying That that's gonna happen. This is one of the concepts that could be chosen If they're to go with zemperla um The other one Is a hundred percent Kind of like this green area. That's yellow Like the green area. Sorry the forest. Oh I'm team yellow That I like the most too to be honest like a nice little velocity coaster A big velocity yellow The old original theory Would be where's the mount? Okay Is something like this So I'm not like that but like, you know, if you really want to get technical Who are you up to? Well, there's three pieces of track going over the mountain. No, what is that? That looks like a 3d tissue. It kind of does My god, it does look like a 3d tissue That's not what I was gonna say, but yeah, that's what so guys I know black makes the most sense But I think that's because I've ingrained that in your head like I think you've been I think you've been like Trained like essentially to like this idea the most but I I think I explained it really well, so Okay, let's let's get rid of the blood. I just drew for a sec I'm gonna I'm gonna circle in red why I think they won't go forward with this so right here Has not been removed from the construction site yet. It's relatively new too. It's a giant diesel generator To help power the mountain if there was a power failure We've seen no signs Of this coming out either international show place From what we understand knows nothing is happening with backlog either. In fact, it will 50 chance That this or this is going to be a vip area and I'm I'm leaning towards this will be because this is a Winterfest bar slash howling haunt store. So so you put the one that you think with an x and the one You don't think with a check. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just get rid of that Reason number two or whatever five eight Is the coaster traveling in the behind the scenes area is really ugly. They they also set up all their ice ring stuff there for winterfest That's another really good point and winterfest would would good point jay Give me the mic They have an underground pipe that goes from there from back there in towards the middle Yeah on that green line right there for all the winterfest stuff and that they installed in 2019 So if they didn't know they're gonna build the coaster in 2025 from 2019, they did something wrong Yeah, my opinion Oh my goodness. I just thought of that on the spot. I feel so smart um But I get it. I get it. We felt we fell for the same tactics, uh, sorry the same information the survey Um, I I I have decent information that there are supports already installed in the mountain And there were forms in the mountain at the beginning of halloween haunt Which would back up that information Um But and then extreme sky flyer circled in green. Let's get rid of some of this whack Oh Nice, but extreme sky flyer was announced to be removed last minute Um, and the park is gonna talk about that in about a week or two So with the tunnel work going on An extreme sky flyer being removed. It all made sense But I'm telling you from a very reliable person What that being you That the tunnel Is not being demolished or Taken out it's being refurbished Um, and it it's it's I mean, it's been there for like 45 years now And but the average lifespan of a tunnel JD did some research 120 120 years I think that means like came up that's probably like tunnels in year. Yeah modern new tunnels. That's also what I'm thinking. Yeah um Like this was built in the 70s right you want my honest opinion about I'll give an honest opinion about what I think happened I think that they were going to originally go with a wing coaster A launched wing, but then you have king's dominion who is going to get a launched wing as well and Usually in the same year that would be extremely weird for them to build two launched wings But I don't think that was the reason um I think that one of the other reasons was An emelman coming out of that mountain and then heading over vortex and then heading over Um Guardian and then the rendering showed it almost heading back and then back again It's just a lot of stress on that mountain Like if you look at it the support columns going into that mountain on those elements over the mountain Would be a lot of hard work now I think that when they presented that concept, you know someone probably whipped up a design And it was just too much work. It was too much. It was too costly It was just a pain in the butt. This is the best way to describe it. So I think They approached a different concept. They were like, okay a wing coaster Going into the mountain and then coming out of the mountain Too much. So I'm not ruling out a wing by the way But let's say we put the station in the mountain And then we launched It out of the mountain into a path and then it would come back Would that work? Oh, it'd be so nice an air-conditioned line. Yeah And the launch should be covered in case they wanted to run it in winter fashion But you're talking like guardians air-conditioned Well, rain-conditioned. Yeah So, you know, it's funny. Let's think back. I should have had it right. I should have the picture The footing the foot the footing caps in the mountain during haunt. Do you remember the varying different shapes? No, I thought they had big coaster ones, but then they had some smaller ones. For example Um station pieces transfer tracks pieces like out like, you know, there were there were smaller ones That you would typically use for like other parts of the ride So I feel like there's been a lot of things we've overlooked Through this whole construction project all because of that survey So Yeah I think And you know what again, I could I could be wrong But I think amusement insiders is ready to move away from the maintenance tunnel as being the most likely area of launch And we're going to switch over to the orange based off of information We received to the today not orange but orange and yellow But I mean not that being said they're still going to keep an eye on it when flying the drone Obviously because it's an ongoing construction project As we do cover everything in the park But yeah Any questions comments concerns in the chat that's this time It's not it's not that now that is the time for your questions comments and concerns. Oh one thing When we fly the drone we post patreon photos Around four o'clock or five o'clock of the day the flying the drone and then the next day The youtube video goes out if you want to see these patreon photos link is in the description down below join patreon If there's tea though, I'll post the video earlier And I have a feeling We're in that era where there's about to be a lot of tea Yukon era. Yeah, we're we're entering that Yukon area where we start uncovering things Maybe one day a piece of wind a piece of wind window blow tarp off a piece of track and you know Ai 2.0 has started Um, what about thunder run so tomorrow's construction update is going to cover another aspect about why we think The another reason as to why the coaster is most likely In the orange or yellow area So you'll see that tomorrow. I feel like so we're not doing a hangout stream today guys by the way due to the delay um, I'm starting this um, but Geez it's your birthday. Happy birthday, man. I didn't know that Wait, what? It's not my birthday. Is it possible the coaster will be multi-launch? Yeah, absolutely. Um, it depends on the manufacturer We I don't think we've seen bm do a multi-launch. We've seen them do a multi-pass lunch, but not a multi-launch Yeah, so Wait, no surf coaster is two launches No, it has like a little booster has a trim brake Doesn't that boost the ride wait guys, am I wrong? By plane has one launch Yeah, it has a multi-pass launch from the one be a wing in Europe, but yeah, I don't I don't think so. Yeah, one launch one launch JD says one. He's really okay. Okay. Okay. One launch. I was wrong. I was wrong um But yeah, you guys ask questions and that was your time to ask questions because we're not doing a hangout Why why what why not? You don't want to do it. You want to do a hangout? Why are we doing it? Because we started late. We started late. So any questions comments concerns? Mexico we are Okay, we can do a hangout if you want you want to end this and then do a hangout All right, we don't have to not do a hangout. We're not doing it Has that guy we don't know anything about the color I want purple and black. All I'm gonna say is based off of what we just learned today We just presented you guys with some of the biggest tea ever. So I would take this with a grain of salt, but Just trust just trust that this salt might be true Watch this could be a third tunnel wonder what's just going around the mountain now carving like holes in the mountain What sucks is how much time we've spent filming the wrong tunnel. Yeah, that that sucks I want to use that sound on tech talk now All that time and all what was it for like that one? Orange and black the hangout will be same So when this podcast episode ends guys wait like five ten minutes and then check again for another live stream If you don't get the notification There's not going to be a game today, but ask us questions. We're just going to shoot the shoot I'll show how you say that Now let's see how the copycat channels change their opinions for real Let's see. I am so y'all are so excited to change your opinions now Everyone I'm so excited to hear these but here. Why don't I touch on something while while we still have like 200 and something I've you guys in here I'm just gonna eat my chip as a speculation channel by the way, which is what I am a speculation channel and I cover Rumors and speculation and coaster construction um Some you have to understand that when I'm covering a project, especially a project so early um I didn't have uconn striker blueprints until Halfway through 2018 before it opened. So about halfway through the 2024 season I'm reporting on a coaster Probably earlier than I've reported on one in a really long time I mean, oh Because you've only been two coasters. Yeah, we found the video when you found the track This is before when you found the track. You found the track in january sometime. Yeah, we're in february, dude Bro, you started covering this like two months now. What are you talking about? Yeah, dude No, but I found it in 2017 didn't I no you found it in december 2017 the tunnel construction was all in january february was done in march The tunnel was done. Okay. Yeah um, but what I want to say is When i'm covering a project so early with not a track piece on site or under a tarp or a tunnel built with a track piece sticking out Um, it's hard. It really is like uh predicting things is hard, especially when there's like a red herring Even though it's not a red herring like the survey that shows a specific coaster model Um, it's made it really difficult. So Yeah, definitely example the the survey that came out. It looks like a flying coaster. Yeah, but yeah, it's Yeah, especially that one element. Yeah, like it does like a sky turn but And then there's the other one. That's a wing coaster and then there's another one. That's the gci Um, so that's a great question. Chez. I hope I pronounced your name, right? Asked why did they remove wonder mounds guardian? Well, actually that piece of wonder mounds guardian is directly Right near above where they're digging that tunnel. Mm-hmm, absolutely, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah um, so I again just understand that when i'm talking about this project right now um to take things as rumors and speculation and things can change until I get more concrete information um as I learn things and Obviously through the rumor mill and birdie mill Just just work with me. We're gonna we're gonna figure this thing out Um, and you guys are along for the the process. So again like today Was the biggest teedrop I've experienced through Yukon Um tundra ever this was the biggest teedrop. So I'm telling you just Just look at alpine. Okay. Just look at alpine. Just trust that so people know what it is. So alpin Sorry, I keep saying alpine Oh, that's not it. Oh Look at this area Right here as your sign To 2025 that looks like sos it is sos help me Okay Um Anything about fixing thunder runs effects. Yes, I have heard that I have heard that is happening this off season But um Yeah Like bro used process instead of ride literally talking about rides Hey, what guys don't forget to hit the like button down below like this train if you enjoyed it Thank you very much. Don't forget to subscribe as well. Yeah um Oh my god, it's getting political in the chat. Um, okay, so give us five minutes Hangout stream Oh, yeah, along for the process instead of the ride. That's me. Would I not prefer to Cover a coaster construction project than we also want something to dethrone leviathan Do I really want something to dethrone the leviathan so bad as much as you think Yukon shaker is great leviathan This podcast will be left up. Don't worry. No one spilled any tea Yes I'm looking at everyone this direction But stay tuned because wonderland will be spilling tea in about a week or two Yeah, speaking of spilling tea. Yeah, okay. Anyways, give us five ten minutes. Check youtube join us for the hangout stream because Yeah, he's gonna be eating All right. Bye guys. All right Oh, I have to exit this