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So perhaps best position to comment on all sorts of... బసిచాaged ... క్� calm back the country and o.would the presented and క్లశ్లు, bio short lots నిక్ట్,aina  행복                      Music and Alcata fans and even the media if you see there is when you go for training for the math math 130 thousand one lakh thirty thousand people come to watch but we will give up training there would be two hundred three hundred people in the media guys in the fifteen sixteen and ten fifteen camera man Where do you get that even in ISL when when when the when the players go for training that's only in Calcutta and people say that Calcutta in Calcutta you have pressure but మృటిర్చలింినీటిందినారే ఆదార్చారోటార్చింద ఞ్తవర్చిమ్చికానాము.. ఇాసతటినిందామున్యెయెస్నిచానినికా, ఇఆథనరిందాకాయెద్చా. They were also a very, very good player. I heard that Subhaal Gwameek and Monadha of a coach. They were all great players. After that, when I joined Mohan Bangan in 1996, was the year when Baishu came back from JCP. So, so came from Churchill. There were many others saying from Samseer Raja, we all were together in 1997. That was a great thing because Baishu, I know Baishu from a very long time. The first time I met Baishu was in 1991, 1991 or 1992 in Tata side tournament. That's when in 1993 he came to Calcutta and started making a mark by coming on for 15, 20 minutes or 10 minutes. In 1995, I think he was a famous player then. In 1996, he was in JCP in 1997. That's when 130 lag, that was the record when we beat Mohan Bangan 41 or something like that. So, that was the best. If you saw about the fans, the number of fans, that was the best of course. Every derby, you will get to see many, many fans coming. But being Calcutta just before joining East Bengal and Mohan Bangan, I'm not being arrogant, but of course all due respect to East Bengal and Mohan Bangan, PFA played final in Durankar and we lost in Thai Breaker, which I missed. I scored penalty in semi-final or quarter-final, but I remember in final when we played draw, I missed the penalty. After that, we played in IFST and we beat them 4-0. And then we beat Mohan Bangan in Durankar. Of course, we respect them, but at the same time, not PFA, going from PFA, winning against them. Respect is there, but not once whistle starts. We feel that we can make it if we could win. If I was coming from Manipu, straight away to Mohan Bangan in East Bengal, that would have been a different mentality, but me going from PFA and beating all the big teams with Mohan Bangan and Mohan Bangan, it was not that difficult. But once we got into that system, once we joined the club, then we will show what it is all about. I know that when we lost the match, there were 2-3 hours of fans waiting outside, just to appease you, just to make you feel sad. And when you win again, you are on top of the world. That's what I mean. In the beginning part, in 1997, all of you guys landed up together at this club, you, Bhai Chung, you were saying Shamsi Raja. So, there must have been, the stories must be enough for you to write a book on. So, at this point, tell us a story that symbolizes the early years. Brother, Dada is there. Dada knows me from a very young age. He is listening. But there are many things, there are many things which 18-19-year-old would do. Of course, in a public forum, it will not be appropriate to share all those stories. But there were some great moments, on and off the ground. On and off the ground, there were really great moments. I still remember, we train early in the morning. In those days, we forget about breakfast. We, 6.30, before the sun came, we used to train at 7.30. So, just imagine, from Salt Lake, driving all the way to Maidan, that was also in our bike. That was those days, we couldn't afford a car in 1997. In the bike, we used to go ahead, we used to sit in front of the bike, and then I think, in 1998 or 1997, we had a car. But he was also used to have a bike. So, we all used to go in a bike, in those days. And after the training, in the evening, if it's a weekend, there is a party in the bike space. That's the story. On and off the ground. But practice, we never miss the practice. It's not that we party, we never miss, but at the same time, we have got, when you have social, you know, the party, you never miss. The crazy gang. Remember, I remember, I was in a national, national camp. So, what was the name, sir? You remember? Ahahah, So, so was in 1997, Indian team camp. And then he was there for the whole camp. He couldn't get selected. So, so was on high at the time. So, so signed with big money from Churchill to East Bengal. And he was playing and then, the three assists from him when they beat, when we beat East Bengal, Mohan Bagan for one. So, so three assists on that mat. And you know, how good he was but when he was in camp for one month and when we couldn't select it so those days you know names are used to make everyone cut their hair short like a hair those who don't cut their hair they don't select it so at the end also when he didn't get selected just because my hair is big what is the selection for him you know those were the days those sound like the kind of names spent Siddhanth would have been perfect for the Indian team Siddhanth ya it was only the haircut 2000 I will come up with a good anecdote if you remember Reddy 2000 1999 Charchilviti's Swingal Trini let go up Reddy was in the team he was the coach you remember he lost 3-0 in Goa East Bengal lost to Charchilviti 3-0 in that match 1999 league NFL so East Bengal was in bit of a spot of bother at that time they were losing a lot of matches Reddys were losing a lot of matches so East Bengal then went to Travancourt Trivandrum to play that Trivandrum side which team was playing SBT and there was a lot of talk about that Mr Bhomek will be replaced as the coach because East Bengal were losing a lot of matches at that point of time lot of talk about that Bhomek will be replaced by coach but finally he was not replaced of course but the talk was that Mr Naimuddin will come as the new coach in place of Mr Bhomek so when East Bengal left for SBT match that time Mohanmagan was still in Goa they had to play 2 more matches in Goa so I was in the Mohanmagan hotel so in the night in the evening I remember I was sitting at the reception Dipendu came Dipendu Viswas came and he was telling me oh I heard Mr Naimuddin is becoming East Bengal coach I said yeah I also heard so I don't know then he says I must go and call Reddys I said why no no I must console him it's true that it's true that next story 1996 Calcutta those days Calcutta used to be big in 1996 it used to be very big Calcutta league and my first year I got a player of the year in Calcutta football league first year can imagine and after that I had a great year I was in Santosa of the team with all those seniors and next year 97 I was in the one and a half month we were having a camp so those days no five stars in Calcutta Saime we were one and a half month Naimuddin was the coach Naimuddin was the coach for Moun Bagan and was the coach for East Bengal so I had such a great year and then after that I was going to know that everyone coming in PK Vanizi my ex-KFA director is also becoming a coach Monodha the assistant coach the coach PK Vanizi the technical director and then I am very close to them because PK Vanizi knows me for 5-6 years in GFA then I really wanted to join me and Shankar Lal I still remember we were room partners we signed in the morning we signed in the morning we signed in the morning we signed in the morning but those days Calcutta was the main man Calcutta was the main man for East Bengal so Calcutta and Babuda in the morning in the morning we ran in the afternoon we signed in the afternoon we waited in the car and we signed in the afternoon so already for the next camp in Travancore in Kerala we were selected for the next camp already in the name paper after coming in the name paper then I got in the evening a letter and I was selected to go for the second camp after having a camp just because I signed for East Bengal I signed for East Bengal and we told the officer that he was running in East Bengal because he didn't want to sleep so I went in 1996 just because I wanted to because I had a great Mon Bagan with official fans and I was really good so then because of Naimuddin I had to sleep to East Bengal after playing for 15 years so Naimuddin came to this camp so Naimuddin came to this camp now what I do they had this understanding where Mon Bagan players can't go to East Bengal East Bengal players can't come straight away they can't sleep so they had to sleep I don't know what to do so now I pre-season without signing pre-season without signing I started training then my mind is like I have to move from here I don't have any more sleep with Naimuddin but it's just that I don't like the way the games it happens with anyone in the world I have played with 10-15 coaches maybe 2-3 coaches didn't like my game and the rest it is there so you all give respect to Naimuddin he was such a great player but I just don't like playing in his system so then I sleep to Mon Bagan because I sleep well so for 2 months I was suspended then I went to Mon Bagan and then I played for 2 months then I got opportunity to play with Mon Bagan I played for 5 years in Mon Bagan I played for 5 years in Mon Bagan I played for 5 years in Mon Bagan so those are the days and this was also when you made the shift was back to back NFL titles right I came 2nd in East Bengal but when I was there for 3 years that time I couldn't win so then in Mon Bagan I came back and won in Mon Bagan of course when Surotha was the coach we won the league sorry Jerry I would like to ask I want to ask you one thing when you came to East Bengal at that point of time that is like a new beginning for Calcutta football I would say in the way the previous the good players the entire lot in East Bengal and Mon Bagan in both very local players Krishnade, Sudip Chatterjee Amesh Bhadra, Debashish Mukherjee all local players this is the first time in the 90s East Bengal was packed with players from TFA all the TFA players some came to East Bengal Mon Bagan some went to Bombay then Godfrey went to Bombay Alok was a very good player Alok was a very good player then I think Godfrey went to Bombay then Musaq went to Bombay lot of players went to Bombay so being an outsider how did East Bengal fans accepted you because they were used to local players Bengali players I would say local players I would say not Bengali players this is why I like Calcutta so much this is why I respect the Calcutta fans even the Calcutta media if you say they say the Calcutta media but you know we of course when we play bad we are bound to write bad about us that's not a problem but when Calcutta from the been accepted there was no outsider or insider it's a point problem even from Mon Bagan to East Bengal you know fans they accept if you play well if you are giving 100% in the ground fans love that Calcutta doesn't see that they are not coming from outside all they want is to win and if you can help them win you are on top of the world if you go to a restaurant you don't get that anywhere I know Bangalore has got big fan following I know Kerala has got big fan following I know Boa has got big fan following but the respect you get off the ground in Calcutta I have seen I played everywhere but you don't get that so Calcutta has accepted us from day one like we are their own players and that's why we play for long 12 years in Calcutta by too much it was very important and that's why maybe we could last long I think and then we enjoy the process also and if you just imagine if now any player playing for that long of course there is lot more competition but Calcutta people have accepted us like their own you know so we are grateful for that and till now when we go we retire many years back but we still get the love from the fans when you go towards the match and that's Calcutta I would like to ask you all day we are talking about club will be 100 years since we have played in both the clubs so you will be able to better you will be able to tell us better what is extra in this among these twangol fans what do you get extra from these twangol fans lal holud lal holud I think they are aggressive you see the colour itself you see the colour itself of course both the officials are alike but one is Kama Mohan Bagan, Maroon Green and Maroon it's Kama but if you see the fans also the twangol fans right from the warm up so if you are not having so many players we have had to face this if you are not playing if you are not having a good matches for 3-4 matches in a row if you are playing at Calcutta it's not that far away from Calcutta but if you are playing in that twangol crowd in the warm up they will give so much aggressive they are aggressive but the same people after the match if you are on a winning side they will say wow what a player they change in 15 minutes they change in 20 minutes and suddenly if you are losing they will spit on you and they will wait for you the thing is where on earth fans wait to abuse you for 3 hours seriously but this is very normal in Calcutta I don't know now they are chanting now I think they are sending a lot from in east Spain I was talking to few fans few days back and they said you guys have improved a lot you chant 90 minutes he is bengal will win Mohan Bagan will win but in hot days there is no chanting there is only gali gali gali and if you win then they are like oh you are the best you are the best next year one after the other they were both playing their first game of the season in the durand and Bagan's game was a day after a day before the east bengal game and they won and he was like great applause yes very dignified chanting and all next day east bengal won the fans jumped from the fences after the first game of the season if you are on the bus I stay in soleng after playing in soleng I don't go to the club before the thing is in mohan bagan east bengal if you are playing in east bengal you have to travel from soleng to east bengal and come back to soleng and in the traffic it is quite long when you come of course you get police but if you are on a losing side if you want to go back you have to break the bus you have to break the bus you have to break the bus so I have seen I have seen I have seen I have never parked my car is that why you never know I never parked my car I will tell you a funny story I have lost I can tell this because I am retired now you are the young place I don't know what they are doing now there is a charnuk city a small mall behind the soleng stadium I parked my car there there we never know if I am playing with dempo if I am playing Churchill in Calcutta it is very difficult for them also to be there so I am 80% alright that we will have a good match so we would come straight we are charnuk city I think we will lose then if we lose we will lose we will lose away from the fans you have to hide otherwise you cannot face after losing they get very very aggressive because the emotion is so high the fans they will do anything so we know that we feel bad but you are not guaranteed that you will win sometimes you win when you win it is very difficult don't you think you are talking so much about East Bengal the enthusiasm fans everything will not ISL miss them this season I have been saying this of course it is a great thing Mohan Bagan has joined the hands with DK and now Mohan Bagan is going to be nice but Mohan Bagan without East Bengal and East Bengal without Mohan Bagan it will never be the same so if Mohan Bagan is there East Bengal has to come otherwise the rivalry will not be fun if you play with Mohan Bagan you will never be able to see the back stadium so I really want East Bengal to come it is a great rivalry which we should have everywhere in the world so Mohan Bagan without East Bengal and East Bengal without Mohan Bagan it will never be the same so I really want East Bengal to come up in ISL so that we can see the great football the rivalry, the fans the media, the officers I want that things going otherwise of course I am happy but I want East Bengal to come any couple of matches or tournaments or seasons anything that comes to your mind top of your head in terms of your personal memories of the most on the pitch the best time that you had apart from of course you talked about the 97 initial season but going forward from there going forward from there when we became a league champion with Mohan Bagan and when we of course with East Bengal second twice or thrice but East Bengal coming second and Mohan Bagan coming first East Bengal coming second is nothing but when I was in JCP coming second and third if we win it is the same if we lose the same but in Bengal if you win lose the name it has to be kept in every match and that is the pressure you have if you come again so I came twice or thrice second but it was not enough for East Bengal but having said that we have win derby we have won so when you are playing in East Bengal derby is such a big thing of course yes when you beat example when you beat Churchill those days it's okay it's nothing special but you have to beat Mohan Bagan that's the mentality every fan has got if you are not having a great season great i-league or great national league but if you can beat Mohan Bagan then half of you will say let's go to East Bengal and they have that mentality and that's why suppose when we are not having a great league we always charge up to give 100% best so that fans will say if they are not so bad they will say that's the mentality if you are playing in Calcutta you have to know that in 15 minutes I have seen many players in 15 minutes public pressure there are many cases like that in 15-20 and if public don't like it if it doesn't work then in 15-20 minutes you will be able to play many cases like that there are many players who have come from outside right in Calcutta we are lucky in one way no definitely and I am sure that that had a lot to do with why so many members of these two clubs have represented and gone on to play at the highest level for the country if you see there are many players there are many players who have played really well in Goa but no guarantee that they will come in Calcutta and succeed they are playing well for India they are playing well for Denmark well for Churchill but coming in Calcutta and they will perform again Calcutta fans are very demanding especially East Bengal there are many players who are good players but couldn't stay for long generally we talk about iLeague and NFL these days since you have played in foreign East Bengal can you remember any great match in Durand since they are knock out matches that's why you have played for East Bengal in Durand the Rovers Cup in Durand we lost twice in the final we won once and we lost to Mahindra Mahindra was a great team in those days they used to have a good team so we have this rivalry with Mahindra also and then I think East Bengal I think they are always good well in DCM all Durand in those days but we lost I won twice or I lost once I think in Durand in that year but playing in Durand coming in Delhi it's also a great thing in those days we don't have ISL we come by Rajdhani and in those days we have to travel in that Shaktimaan for the match we don't travel we stay in Daryagan and those days once we shall start I loved coming going and playing for Durand first it's a small ground and the fans are nearer and in those days Durand cup full packed those days Durand it was full packed but Delhi Durand cup many people used to come and watch we see full house every time especially when Calcutta teams sleep why I am asking this because nowadays in Indian football players stop playing knock out matches I don't think they know how to play knock out matches but you you were the players basically East Bengal and Monmaghan were the two teams who were great knock out match players if you put them in a knock out tournament they will always win you will see in those from 1996 like Dada said in 1996 I think East Bengal and Monmaghan be it IFSL be it Durand cup you will always see most of the time most of the time you will always see East Bengal and Monmaghan in those days because to play league is different to play knock out matches sometimes Manchester City lose to 2nd division or 3rd division team to play knock out match it is a difficult thing and they are players in East Bengal and Monmaghan they are specialised to play and we always see even though we are not doing great in the league but if you see in the tournament you will always see them on the final and people used to wait for East Bengal and Monmaghan to have that final even in Durand cup so do you think that there is atleast 2 knock out tournaments do you think because we are not only playing there this is why I want before the start of the season or if they can have like they are having FA cup right now common away they are having FA cup right now and if you can have that tournament like this before when they are having a preseason that will be perfect because players need to know about tournament they play a tournament before the season and if you can have this tournament before the season it will be good for the players and players will be ready for the league and that is very important we should have a tournament also because nowadays how many matches do Indian players play those days 9 months we play and these days players play for 4 months yeah for 2 matches actually can I yeah please just have a question for you taking you back to the thing you were saying about when young players came when they were playing for East Bengal or Moon Maghan in the Derby and just the pressure and you have seen players crumbled under the pressure also and you have had a great experience also that you loved being in Calcutta you just loved that city but now you are a coach you coach young kids and you have the benefit of this hand side so would you like tell young players like if you have to advise them on like a career journey on a career path would you tell them that the first club they should pick is like East Bengal or Moon Maghan or would you prefer if they started somewhere else build some sort of mental strength and then got into these 2 clubs okay that's a very good question so now you have to see the quality of the player so in our tea everyday 10 of us 9 of us joined Moon Maghan and 3 joined Mohammedan and then we came to East Bengal but then after 2 or 3 years only 3 or 4 could survive so now we were lucky to have Habib sir as a coach and we were lucky that East Bengal or Moon Maghan already so we are bound to get a chance of East Bengal and Moon Maghan so coming from my academy first I have to see 18 year old as I know how what it takes to play in Calcutta I have to see how good he is according to that I will not say that my player cannot play in Calcutta but if he is good enough then he can get it like from the first day I didn't come as a sub I didn't come as 15 minutes I didn't come as 20 minutes right away I went to the first level but how many players are going to get their chance whoever the coach is if I am sending a coach from I say under 18 team I have 27 players from that 1 or 2 players will be really really good who will be ready right away but others will not be ready so then I will give that advice first you have to play a manipulative you have to do well after that you have to go to a smaller club where you will get more chance so match is very very important if you see take a Chelsea for example there are so many players now Mason Mounds we had gone on a loan he came in straight away now he is performing I am sure you don't want to hear that because you are Arsenal fans but look at the academy boys how they are some are getting in straight away like Hassan Odoi who has played very well in the World Cup 2 years back he is in the team right now so we have to see that we have to give the players time to have this platform to play FB that's why we have created a league for under 18 also and after that now we have promoted in second division we have promoted in second division first division then we will play a money pool full senior league now we are playing senior league but third division now second division we are going to play so the more matches they play the better for them because East Bengal like you said they are not going to say there is no time for that East Bengal want ready play going to perform or not because there is no emotion for East Bengal you have to stay otherwise you go and play somewhere there is no time big clubs and East Bengal is doing the same so players as you see as a coach I want to see how good he is according to that then you go that's okay like don't worry we will actually cut out that whole Chelsea bit don't worry about that but also like it's like what you are saying here this one thing like I just want to pick on which is to make his moan and East Bengal want ready players which is also like a dangerous thing because it essentially also means your kids will not come they don't have a grass root system that will feed into the top team isn't that also like a negative but can you say the same for real Madrid and Barcelona yeah no so it's the same for East Bengal and Moan Bagan yes but what I want from East Bengal and Moan Bagan I want them to have a proper youth system don't do that before the tournament bring it from Pandwa or from Hauras I want them to have a proper infrastructure where Moan Bagan and East Bengal can produce play young players but if they are not ready to play in East Bengal and Moan Bagan after being in the academy for 5-6 years send them on loan send them on loan be your own player and when you see that in law if they are doing good bring it back and let them play in Moan Bagan this is what they need to do but I know that it costs money and in East Bengal and Moan Bagan they were struggling for money for many years now so now if they have a proper structure and that's the only way if you see that's what they have to do but like I can understand from an official point of view you know 100 and 130,000 people coming towards and there is no time to give you know there is so much pressure on official also on the courts also if you want like if I want to try because that's what Aashen Wengar said recently right Aashen Wengar said if you are giving a chance to 18 year old then he is bound to make a mistake but is your official is your owner ready to give that chance no they will not give so what the court will do to survive himself for the betterment of the club so that's the thing you have to see how long you are going to give a chance so that send them on loan if they are good enough bring it back and that's the only way so this is also interesting because like obviously both the clubs are so competitive and therefore is why they have these transfers between themselves and we will get him next season and vice versa and you are saying in your time all of this is like connected also in a way because Bijay Malia used the one both right and clearly I will ask you one thing now you are a part of ISL Madhav you have been with Pune you have been with so many things and now Madhav we regularly get to hear that Indian football is changing changing for good must be changing for good I am convinced and a lot of ISL new teams are coming up and like a lot of good teams are coming Bombay has come up Bangalore has come up, Mumbai is being taken up by the city group and so many things modern system has got it do you think still is swengle like he is swengle on Mohan Magan now since it is swengle 100 years I am asking you they still have a relevance in Indian football of course yes you can't take away anything from that anything those things from East Bengal in Indian football Mohan Magan play a big part whatever other teams may come but East Bengal and Mohan Magan from the fan following from the football point of view from the history they will always be on top that's for sure but what I have seen I have played for maybe 15 years in ILEET and one year I played for Kerala Blasters I worked for Punecipi as an assistant both for 2 years what I have seen of course you don't have that fan following of course you don't have that pressure like East Bengal and Mohan Magan playing in Kerala or playing because there is no relegation and there is no promotion as long as there is no relegation and promotion players are not going to have a tough time players he will jump from one club to the other without any pressure in our days in East Bengal and Mohan Magan if you lose one match we know how bad it is we cannot go out for 2-3 days if you go out friends will see they will abuse you or they will say bad things but if they have that pressure in ILEET if they don't have that pressure of course but one good thing about ILEET is they are very very organized you don't have to wait for the salary players are staying in a 5 star treatment in East Bengal and Mohan Magan all due respect to the officers the fans wise I don't complain I love fans coming to the training ground and watching and training that what East Bengal and Mohan Magan has given but if you see the infrastructure if you see the training ground if you see the way they eat so in ILEET you don't have to worry about anything everything has been taken care of you all are free family ILEET and the salary the most important where East Bengal and Mohan Magan you need to wait for 6 months sometimes salary after advancement but in last 10 years in East Bengal also they don't have to wait East Bengal and Mohan Magan in last 10 years it was better I am talking about when we started slowly slowly it became better but if you see the infrastructure ILEET it is way more organized but fans culture and you see the ball of course we will always miss and like coming back East Bengal has to be there in ILEET and I want East Bengal to be there in ILEET once you get into the ILEET the structure will be okay then the structure will be there then the fans will come in then it will be a great but but East Bengal going out from ILEET East Bengal not coming to ILEET it's not a great idea but I feel they should come and once you get into ILEET there will be a proper structure and system so yeah you are talking about player salary and I know that you were one of the people who founded the FPAI in 2006 like this was also obviously drawn from your experiences as a player at were you at either of these clubs at that time I don't know were there conversations happening with you and say by June were you guys having these conversations when you were playing with each other like at these clubs of course we all know how it used to be in those days if you are getting 10 lakhs 5 lakhs will be there in advance and if you are getting 15 lakhs 8 lakhs will be there in advance and then monthly it will so on that's how we used to get but I know the players getting injured players getting injured and players will not be they will check out players they will not give money for the treatment they will not sign it again there was not a great thing to do and we have seen that from playing from 1996 but slowly it got better and then come to 2008 when we were in Dubai having a camp by June being in a playing in Burry for 3 years and he know how the players football association in UK works and he has got the idea so he was talking to me and many other players at the training field because in 2008 we are almost retiring few years we have played we were senior players of course in the financial situation there were always used to be a problem and then by June said let's start a players association so that annual players locally we may not get it but annual players locally it will be a very good thing for the players getting injured and if the club can take care and when you sign a proper contract and those days contract paper no one was there you know you are my son sign it we don't know how much it is in those days after forming a players association East Bengal and Mon Bagan it got very good in terms of payment in terms of play you know you have that good relationship earlier we used to wait in our secretaries we used to wait in our secretaries we used to wait for the salary every day even we used to wait for 2-3 hours for a bicycle and then we used to players shouldn't do that players shouldn't do that because players run with that money they run their family these are things in ISL it doesn't happen so slowly I have seen that in last 7-8 years in Bengal and Mon Bagan also they are playing on time and that's a good thing because we form a players association we have our own union and if there are any players are not getting the right treatment then we try and fight we try and request that this shouldn't happen this is a modern world where football has gone way ahead we should also pick up and in 7-8 years it has been nice to play honestly unlike our days and of course I cannot blame them but they are also getting to learn but now it is better but all I want to say is in this secretaries that's what I think fair enough when we were in Calcutta at this time when the celebrations of this 100 year 100th year were beginning and none of us knew at that point that one year on we would not again be in Calcutta indulging in some of those celebrations but thanks for sharing those thoughts on your time at East Bengal and overall if you want to leave us with what it is for either or both East Bengal management as well as the fans we can do that and we can wrap up on that I really want to thank the East Bengal fans I spent 6 years over there for me of course yes there were bad times but more than bad times there were good times as well for whatever we are today wherever it may be by anyone because of East Bengal and I know Calcutta I know East Bengal fans must be wanting as Mon Balan is already in and then Super League East Bengal fans will also be taking if they can and SAX East Bengal play I also want East Bengal to come in and have that rivalry we want to see that rivalry again and I wish all the best and now what I like about East Bengal fans is they are supporting till the end even if they are losing chant till the 90 minutes and players because if the supporters are supporting that long I am sure players inside the ground they can also feel all the best wishes and then officials like you said you guys have been through but you guys can the official can get better also in times to come