 Can I get a witness? You have three and now you should have a bunch more So times, you know the you know the how the color thing works now Kiki avocado There's yellow That's what we call it An avocado is never red If an avocado is red you run Don't eat that avocado That's an emergent you know, you know what I'm waiting for is the person to write into us like red avocados are actually very delicious and rare To overwrite avocados Uh, yeah, there is such a thing as red avocados. I like bell peppers. Yes bell peppers Why do avocados turn red? Is there a bearst? That's the kind of yes fun would tell me because they're like why are we on all this Inside and tastes great. They're just a different kind of avocado. Don't hate all the red avocados Eat Yeah, don't eat the brown Avocado it's not good for you Just the most wonderful thing but once it turns It has there's nothing left to do. It's not like a banana where you're like put it in a smoothie. No that avocado is gone I find it really interesting how some avocados get kind when they turn they get really stringy inside Oh Yeah, yeah, and sometimes you take a bite and you're like that was it it seemed okay. Yeah, and that was a really not what I wanted in my mouth Rejects the reality Okay, so I think we're good on this. Okay, you've got your you've read all 7,000 words from Mark Zuckerberg Well, I just wanted to make sure that like reading the three Person of what I was person was not leaving out and that I thought yeah, well as you got the three things they're doing I think we're good. Yeah, you never have you haven't pressed return though because I haven't seen your updates Yeah, let me wire out of me well, do you Technically started your sentence before I Happed so we'll have to call it a referee Just The real job of giggle sheets giggle sheets giggle sheets. I use those in my laundry You know, it's so funny. So Code monkey on Twitter I had tweeted a couple hours ago because it was raining so hard It just like I had to like say something about it and he was like I'm in Long Beach nothing yet And it's like how is it possible that it's like I Mean monsoon feeling rain Long Beach, which is not far from me at all. I was like, nope. I haven't seen it yet one cloud Microclimates of that magnitude Okay, we're San Francisco is everybody ready to talk soft robots. Let's do it and Mark Zuckerberg The soft robots Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you without you ain't no show find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday March 21st 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from a very rainy studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and joining us today the host of this weekend science. Dr. Kiki is back. Hi there I need a name for my studio. Do you haven't do not have a name for your studio not yet I need let's start a raffle the twist studio. There we go The Erlenmeyer flask of content Our producer Roger Chang has more sense than to say things like that don't you Roger? Yes Hello We are gonna talk about soft robots. We're gonna talk about Mark Zuckerberg's. I don't think it's soft Nor is it hard his appropriate response. I don't know it long response basically to the whole Cambridge Analytica thing Let's start with a few tech things you should know Well, you might recall when the Wall Street Journal reported that Jimmy Iovine would leave Apple now Iovine denied that at the time and now the Journal reports its sources say Iovine will transition into a consulting role with Apple this August August was the original rumor for when he was going to depart the company So might be related might not be technically supposedly Iovine is not leaving Apple He'll just step back from the day-to-day operations. He's been involved with since Apple beat acquired beats in 2014 Google announced new security features for Google cloud Platform among features are a new security level for API based services a tool called Cloud Security Command Center and An isle of service prevention measures including something called cloud armor G sweet also got some security updates to its dashboard and new defaults for flagging untrusted email The European Commission proposed a new tax Wednesday for companies with annual worldwide revenue above 750 million euros and annual taxable EU revenues above 50 million euros a 3% turnover tax would be charged on activities in which a user plays a role in Value creations such as viewing ads Conducting online trading or allowing their data to be sold large tech companies would be the main ones affected and Facebook will now let group admins approve People invited by non admin members of a group chat on messenger as well as remove people and make people admins Any member of a group chat can create a link to send for people to join the chat in messenger So now you can invite anybody in but the admin can decide whether they get to come in or stay in Let's talk a little bit more about less enjoyable aspects of Facebook Well, it's certainly dramatic. That's for sure. So what's app co-founder Brian Acton posted on Twitter? Whether you missed it or not, I'll let you know what happened. It's time Hashtag delete Facebook now. He didn't create this hashtag This is something that's been floating around for years really but had had come up recently with other people before he posted this However, it's significant that action posted it because back in 2014 along with co-founder Jan Kuhn Brian Acton sold WhatsApp to Facebook for 16 billion dollars of which I believe the The story is that he got about 6 billion Personally Acton left Facebook owned WhatsApp earlier this year to start his own foundation has since invested 50 million dollars in signal Exactly, you know, I did a straight-on competitor to what's up But certainly a messaging app competitor and a related note Mark Zuckerberg finally responded to Facebook's handling of the Cambridge Analytica scandal in a post very long, but it was it was heartfelt I believe he said Facebook had made mistakes that the company took the most important actions to prevent this from happening again Years ago. He also laid out a three Step plans rebuilding user trust notably Facebook will remove developer access to your data If you haven't used the service in three months among other things the company is also performing audits on apps Yeah, so so these are these are a big deal The third thing he's going to do is put the tool bar that exists for you to control your private data at the top of Your news feed so that everybody knows it's there and everybody sees it and can go and yeah It's not buried in some settings somewhere Which admittedly you know, I I'm pretty good at finding things in settings But Facebook is great about burying things that I actually might want to find so auditing old apps proactively Taking your data out of apps if the if you haven't actively used them. That's a great idea. Kiki. Does this make you feel better? I guess so. I mean, I've been monitoring my my own personal security for a long time So for myself, it's like a little bit too little too late Maybe but at the same time I think for people who this isn't on the top of their mind all the time and all they want to do is Click on a button and find out what their Irish leprechaun name is or whatever it happens to be that they're not there Their data and all of their friends data isn't accessible as a result of you know These these slights of fancy that we have every every once in a while I mean can we go back to Brian Acton for a second because you know that whole thing is like there's nothing wrong with someone saying I want to get off Facebook. There's also nothing wrong with someone saying Facebook is harmful for these reasons and this is why I think you should delete it You know and out of hashtag, you know, they're they're levels to this the fact that Brian Acton sold his company to Facebook for Billions of dollars just several short years ago just makes me wonder. I mean what in you know, even if Most of the time especially when you know, you're at such a high executive level, right? Most of the time even if you were to hate Facebook for whatever reason you would be under contractual obligation Not to ever disparage the company for a million years into the future, you know So it's very odd to me that that happened even if it seems flippant not from him Yeah, it is a big question because you I was thinking the same thing that there would be a contractual obligation of some Well, he may he may not have a contractual obligation or maybe he is confident that he could fight that in court and say Yeah, it's not a valid one. I get the correct place people. Yeah, exactly. I have no idea Scenarios are odd Multiple sources tell TechCrunch that Google will acquire Lightro, which makes depth data light field technology It used to be a big deal in imaging The fact that it could do this sort of take one picture and you could focus it later and change it later And have all the pixels in there. They recently pivoted to aiming themselves at virtual reality Appears they have finally decided they can't make a go of it It According to this report is probably going to be an asset sale They have about 59 imaging patents that Google could take advantage of and not all the employees would become Google employees It looks like they just want to buy the technology. I Remember when the Lightro cam first was announced it was back I don't know. I mean you and I were both working at twit Tom. You do Kiki probably and you know was so neat It's like, oh my gosh, you know a camera that you can you know focus after the fact and you know it's you know, it's gonna change the way that the world views photography and It was kind of hard to get a demo unit and then you know, I sort of forgot about it And I mean, I haven't heard the name Lightro in probably years but because they pivoted to VR and I haven't seen anything come out of that right exactly That's the thing is like where a lot of good technology has I'm not gonna say it goes to die because that would be you know That's that's not true But it's sort of that a victim of being too far ahead of its time And they're not talking about this thing selling for a lot of money either like this this this is a I don't want to say it's a fire sale because this is all reports based on sources Hasn't actually been confirmed yet, but if the numbers they're throwing around are true It's not a lot of money Not a lot of money But the potential for Google to be able to use all this technology in the VR space It could be it could allow them to do things that otherwise would have cost them a lot more money through licensing Yeah, maybe in the in the Google clip that little photo thing could could use some lightro tech in there Yeah, or they're gonna license it to everybody else Strangely things have happened YouTube's global head of music Lear Cohen said in an interview at South by Southwest that YouTube will increase the number of ads played between Songs on YouTube in order to encourage users to upgrade to its pay subscription service Kill them with annoyance always a good tactic a new music service is being tested at Google and includes Exclusive videos and playlists among other features Google has a service called Google music that is included under the YouTube red Subscription which removes ads from YouTube when you're part of that service Well, I don't know what do you guys think? Do you know it it certainly encourages if if YouTube's end goal is to be like You know if you give somebody enough ads that they hate and it ruins their experience maybe they'll upgrade it certainly doesn't discourage the worst kinds of ads because That would you know incentivize people to get to get rid of that entire thing It's odd because they already have a music service called Google music that is part of YouTube red which removes commercials So I I'm always confused by the fact like oh, we're gonna launch a new thing all together Even though they already have it So what I'm hoping as a Google music subscriber is this new thing just says hey Google music now part of YouTube red Now it's this new YouTube music service. It's all one thing. I hope they don't start a whole new thing Right separate from this. I Don't know. I mean my guess is that the YouTube brand for so many people I mean sure it's not it's not a you know It's some sort of mystery that Google owns YouTube, but for so many folks who Consider YouTube its own thing and Google music is like maybe related. Maybe not It's like you might want to mesh them later, but get a lot of people used to this on Google music first Yeah, and on YouTube, you know You're gonna be sitting and watching a music video And then maybe you get into watching a playlist of these videos And it's a nice thing that you can have running for a while But these ads might make that less appealing and so you might move into that YouTube red Subscription or the new YouTube subscription But I think that it might just if people end up having playlists of Of videos that they watch that they might just end up Pivoting to something entirely different like Spotify or you know something for music in the background Scientists at the University of California, San Francisco working with App Maker cardiogram published a study in the Jama cardiology journal journal the American Medical Association, so I just said journal twice I know showing the Apple watch can detect abnormal heart rhythms with 97% accuracy more than the 139 million heart rate and step count measurements were collected from 9,750 users of the cardiogram app who also enrolled in the UCSF health e-heart study The data was used to train a cardiogram made new to ear old network to distinguish atrial fibrillation cardiogram and UCSF are also working on detecting hypertension sleep apnea early signs of diabetes using various wearable devices not just the Apple watch but Kiki this one's pretty interesting because it means you could get some early detection just by wearing a device Absolutely and 97% accuracy is really a really high level of accuracy that's going to be high enough to Work very well in most cases for people and this is this is the kind of thing It's really gonna push forward these devices as more personal health devices as opposed to just you know Notifying you about emails. I think the cardioband was part of the study as well And a lot of these stories are spinning it as the Apple watch was better than the FDA approved cardiogram And really the point of the study was like hey, these are all pretty close. They're all above 90% They're all really good at it. Yeah, they're all really good at it And I mean if you've already got the Apple watch and you can download the app and it can give you this kind of information And then maybe they can give it greater Greater functionality later with other things like sleep apnea Detecting and that sort of thing then you're gonna be finding your watch to be super functional in a way that you never thought It would be before I Have the cardiogram app and every time I read a study I'm like well, I want to be part of the study and every time I go to add it. I check it out If I trust them I think I trust them now that they're peer reviewed I should I should let go of that. I'm being paranoid. Don't be paranoid. Fine. If you have abnormal heart rhythm I know I'm like maybe I want to buy an Apple watch for once Yeah, I don't know these health apps they're starting to get pretty powerful also powerful Netflix, you know In a different way Netflix announced it's opening a public bug bounty program on the bug crowd bug bounty program However, an even bigger issue We're at least an evolution is that Netflix is changing its typeface from Gotham to something called at Netflix Sans it's a new typeface. It was actually created and developed with designers Dalton Mogh And Netflix itself and will actually save Netflix millions in licensing fees, which it had to do For this this typeface that it had been using for all these years. So it doesn't look very different, but it is Roger Scroll scroll down on the on the the screen so we can see the actual Netflix typeface Do they not show it on this story from TechCrunch? Weird. It's the other story Yes, yeah, okay, there we go now folks on the audio podcast, it's not comic sans No Netflix Well, sans is something that you know you you get Appended to the end of lots of different time kinds of typefaces, but it is not it does look different It doesn't look crazy different, but it does give you a sense of when you think of How a licensee and you know contracts work Something like Netflix which uses I mean think of all the impressions, right that that typeface that it was Licensing and you know was was gaining after a while you have your own, you know pay the guy who made it in this case I think it's a man And you're better off Millions a year in licensing phase. Oh gothams just a part of a big company. They licensee who gotham was invented a long time ago So yeah, Netflix wants to The company that yeah the company that has the rights to that typeface They want to pay Dalton Mogg the the designing company Dalton Mogg. They want to pay that One time Yeah, if they can affect their bottom line in that way, I mean it's beneficial if it's gonna keep my subscriber fees down Yeah, a little bit. I like it. Here's the thing everybody right now Has a little part of them myself included that wants to criticize this typeface Don't just don't It's a nice typeface If there aren't you know, I know we're all supposed to hate comic sans because it's you know It's just sort of its own joke at this point Yeah, but but I mean do you hate any other typefaces? Can you guys think of another typeface that you just hate when you see sometimes zap dingbats really annoys me I feel like as long as you can read something It's not Yeah, I and granted their typeface their typeface doors out there. I get it. They're very happy We're saying typeface and not font right now. I get it. Sure sure, but just you know typeface for the appropriate situation It's all about design principles Exactly Yes, uh folks If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes You can subscribe to daily tech headlines It'll appear on your amazon echo as a flash briefing if you like Also available on google home and on the anchor app and as a good old-fashioned podcast at dailytech headlines dot com And that is a look at our top stories Ars technicus john timmer has an article up today about columbia's robotics lab Making robotic muscle and sensitive polymer. It's really an overview of the whole lab But he talked to hud lipson Who runs the lab who is pursuing the question? Can you 3d printer robot that can walk out of the printer batteries included? The answer so far is still no He's getting closer There were two particular projects the lab is working on that caught my eye that that timmer wrote up one Is involved with soft robots now now kiki soft robotics is is kind of a big emerging trend robotics, right? It is absolutely. This is a direction that Many roboticists are attempting to go because these are more bio inspired Robots these are going to be robots that can you know act like octopuses octopuses I always octopi octopuses yeah octopuses and And squeeze into small spaces to be able to move in multiple degrees of freedom for the for the movement directions They want to go in um or to even be have be able to have more varied behaviors than the typical Hard shelled metallic robots Aslan miryev was demonstrating for timmer an artificial muscle project They're working out at columbia The use is a liquid silica gel mixed with ethanol the ethanol turns into bubbles liquid filled bubbles But when you send a current through the gel The bubbles because ethanol is an alcohol vaporized very easily they're very volatile that expands The entire gel like a muscle so they can do things like put it in a mesh So when it expands sideways it curls the edges and you get muscle contraction And one of the things lipson was saying in the interview was this allows them to make essentially motors that can fit in lots of places that a hard Steel made motor just couldn't fit and I mean the idea of being able to Print these soft muscles that could be used in opposing ways the way that the muscles around our skeletons work I mean, you're going from an exoskeleton to an inner skeleton, you know, you're you're potentially going to a point where these muscles are working in In an easier way than than what we're looking at today with like hydraulics and other other principles Yeah, so all these movies with like Metal robots are just going to look real dated when soft robots take I know terminator He's just really gonna be Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah Well terminator two was, you know, the liquid dude, right? The liquid metal dude. Yeah. Yeah, so that could be close, right? But not exactly what we're talking about. All they could think of is like, what if the metal was Melted they got close. They got a little softer, but it was still metal The other project they talk about in this article is sensitive polymer Matei Cho Carlia wants to make Luke Skywalker's robotic hand from the end of empire strikes back That's his personal goal Uh, so he's got a bunch of different projects some of which help stroke victims sort of retrain their hands But the one that caught my eye embeds small light sources and optical sensors along the edge of a polymer So that when that polymer is deformed, so let's imagine it's you know, a skin on a robot when that polymer is deformed those sensors Change how they pick up the light from the embedded lights and you can train Uh, again, probably a neural network or some kind of machine learning situation to understand Oh, that means I got poked that means I got slightly, you know, rub that means pressure that means cutting, you know, that means stop But but you could basically simulate the sensitive nature of our skin Which is a huge deal when it comes to the physical nature of robots and before the show Roger brought up the idea that One of the big holy grails to robotics is the ability to pick up a piece of fruit and not leave a bruise on it That a robot would have those sense that sensitivity to be able to hold something cradle it gently in its hands and not crush it You know, and so this kind of advance Uh is it it seems like a it's a sensible way to approach it in that the physical changes That are also overlaid with these optical changes. They work together in in synchronous behavior So it can work really well. Yeah, it's it's exciting. This is really neat Work that they're doing and then you take them both and you put them together And you have a sensitive robot with luke skywalker hands Who walks right out of the 3d printer And then he goes and he finds sophie The soft robot fish from mit that's swimming around And he and he goes on adventures. I think we have all the adventures. It's a new it's the next Miyasaki film The next robot. Yeah, so no soft robots are a big deal mit's Computer science and ai lab is is working on a soft robot fish that just swims like a fish So it can get in places that other robots might not be able to and also doesn't spook the other fish as much Because they think oh that just looks like one of us. So yeah, and one of the interesting things about this is The electrical signals that the fish is giving off. It's the the remote control and the and or Even if it's working through ai there are electrical signals that it's giving off Communicating the data that it's collecting with some kind of receiver And they're using very high kilohertz level Radio frequencies that actually are not picked up by the fish And that's one of the ways that they're maintaining it in a non invasive way in these these coral reef habitats Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit and helps us find these cool stories You can submit stories yourself and vote on the ones that have been submitted at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com And talk with other folks at facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show We're not deleting facebook yet everybody We are going to however check in with chris christensen with some travel tech That's trying to also do some good. This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I've got an app for you today, but this one's a little more serious You can help stop human trafficking By downloading an app called traffic cam. That's traffic with a c and a k And taking a picture of your hotel room next time you stay in a hotel The national human trafficking resource center Uses those pictures They've got a database of hotel rooms to identify hotel rooms in photos and videos of people who are victims of human trafficking Who are being exploited for sex? Last year they had 1434 Reports of human trafficking in hotel rooms and motels and this will help them more easily track down where that is So that they can alert authorities The app again is traffic cam with a c and a k in the traffic And this is chris christensen from amateur traveler interesting interesting way to go about that. Thank you chris amateur traveler dot com Let's check the mailbags here. Let's uh by you know by far The most responses we've gotten to any any new story in a while have been on the idea of autonomous cars Based on the uber story of an autonomous car striking and killing A woman two days ago. Uh andrew rodin and said if I remember correctly uber suvi using not suing using volvo xc 90 hybrids those are subs for their autonomous vehicles At least in the testing programs I wonder if it was in electric mode at the time of the accident Could that be that this is more of an example of the dangers of a too quiet car than of any of our other societal fears Well, I'd say you don't have to choose. Uh, that could be a contributing factor to this Right. I mean she was in the dark Uh, she it was hard according to what the police have said and if that car was in electric mode She might not have realized it was in motion So yeah, that's that's a fair point and then david from autonomous cars can't hear soon enough minnesota Said in regards to autonomous cars. I think people's expectations need to be more realistic The software is never going to be perfect because the software was created by people and people are not perfect That said the goal should be and probably is that autonomous cars are safer than human drivers the vast majority of the time With the autonomous cars never being less safe than human drivers planes are a good example because as safe as they are And as much money that's invested into their safety planes are still not 100 safe And there are still occasionally crashes and problems But because autonomous cars will have to contend with the randomness of people and animals There will always be a chance that something tragic will happen there, too Uh, I I like this email because david's pointing out look Uh, just because there's been one accident doesn't mean autonomous cars are safe It also doesn't mean they're unsafe what it means is we've got our first data point And we need to keep collecting data and we need to try to make them at least as safe If not somewhat safer than people but they're never nothing's ever going to be a hundred percent Nope just watch out for those sneaky quiet cars. I will I mean when I when I read that Email, you know from from andrew and andrew was not making the case of like it was probably just you know quiet because it was an electric mode He was just asking but I'll tell you guys there was especially at this one house that I lived at where I often walked around a corner that was kind of a blind corner And there were so many Priuses at that point on the roads that half the time I'd be like Because you really don't hear them coming in. I mean that is a hazard in some form It's not what we're talking about here necessarily, but it but it plays in depending on what kind of Yeah, we don't know but it could be Yeah, exactly Uh, and and I've been contending with a lot of people who are listening Especially if they're listening to the episode from a couple days ago Just you know piping up somewhere like twitter and and and saying so you're saying Autonomous cars are safe. We never said that at least I never said that what we're saying is This doesn't prove anything one way or the other what this does is is it provides us our first test case and it's That's horrible and unfortunate. I think on the contrary it proves that autonomous cars have a lot of work Left to do yeah order for us to all feel that they're safe Yeah, certainly and and that was true before this and I hate to say it but there there will be an accident like this again because There are with cars that are human driven and the more we find out about what happened here The more that can be done to prevent that from happening again and hopefully delay that other tragic accident but that that's coming down the road but as you know It's it's it's a sad fact that having cars whether their autonomous or human driven is dangerous Yeah, I don't know But would you rather be inside that autonomous car as a passenger or be walking on the streets at this point in time? I don't know. I mean because I don't know Hitting another car. I mean inside the car. Usually is always going to be my My my choice inside the car. You're more likely to hit another car Which is more dangerous as at least as a pedestrian. You might be able to see what's going on like I sometimes feel like Yeah, no, it's an interesting question exactly so many questions What isn't in question is how great it is to have dr. Kiki Stanford on the show That's for sure. Good to see you again Kiki. I guess the last time you were on Well sometime in the last couple months It's definitely been since I was part of dTNS full-time, but come back in yeah But come back soon and in the meantime let folks know where they can keep up with all of your work Well, you can keep up with me at dr. Kiki on twitter twist dot org Online for all things this weekend science and if you just just look for me there You'll find me this weekend science. We go live tonight. 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Kiki Sorry Sorry, that's great You're not the way that seemed like oh Oh, what are we gonna call this chat realm net you can follow along as I select the most appropriate title because it's humorous Relevant or just because it tickles or toes At show about that chat realm net Oh tickling Oh tickling oh tickling titles Thank you very much mr. Roboto, but that might be too much of a old old guy throwback I like zuckerberg and the soft robots Ladies and gentlemen zuckerberg and the soft robots Zuck of the soft bots that actually sounds like a children's I don't like the sound of it Zuck you very much It sounds dirty, but it's not well, that's the thing about the name zuckerberg is you know, it's that's you know the name But when you say zuck I see here suck I don't like that. Yeah. Yes Uh, his name means sugar mountain. Do you remember when we I do? Yes We had a long running Discussion of that on tnt for days. I remember at one point Well, which is funny because it's like even if you're not familiar with german like if you just like separate zucker and berg it's like you'd almost just come like it's like Almost what you would um, you'd guess it. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's not hard to There's bio inspired robots and the robot apocalypse colon now with even more or now with more squish than crush That's definitely long That's long, but it's thorough Yeah The apocalypse gets squishy Mm-hmm Squish apocalypse Squish apocalypse Soft bottle lips apocalypse. No, it doesn't oh good to know my flicker pro account auto renewed Great. Oh, that's cool. So did my my space account I mean, I think if if flicker had not auto renewed, which I obviously told it to do that at some point Click that if I had not auto renewed and said, you know for 40 dollars annually, you know, well, you just I have so many photos In flicker organized to the tea, you know, you don't want to lose it Well, it's just it's It's almost worth it to me to just be like for 40 dollars. I'll think about this next year I would put the title by the way because I was not so uh You did you did like uh, you did like uh, uh bio inspired robots Data privacy with three times more No opinion on bio inspired robot Uh, is that what we're going with? Bio inspired robots that seems relatively, uh Informational about what we did. Yeah, I'm into it. All right cool Oh, and those robots could be gleaned from that title not every title has to be hilarious. Sometimes they could be accurate From that what I can't wait until they put the the uh models for how to 3d print those muscles online I mean people are going to be printing those things right and left. There's going to be these little Little spider robots crawling all over the place. Did you see that they use cream cheese to test their 3d printers? Well use it with cream cheese Well, but fairly because it's the got the same consistency as some materials, but it's cheaper So if they're like we need to do a test, but we don't want to spend all of our actual material and they just I still think a really good representation of what life with Everyday robotics would have looked like like in our contemporary the time period would be the movie Don't don't die you okay there roger roger roger roger don't die guess the way my sentence ended today It would be a great run away with alex alex alex drabeck tom sallis alex drabeck or tom sallis the other guy with a monster Based on I think it's based on the michael creighton book Wait tom sallis stars in a that's just the movie No alex drabeck The movie right away here. I'll I'll bring up a pic alex drabeck should do more theater Uh runaway also stars gene simmons Yes Sounds really good and it was directed by michael creighton not just written Oh michael creighton didn't realize he was directing anything rouser that was alliteration. That's neat It's got kirstie alley Yeah, she's she's uh, she's in that one as well. It's it's an all-star cast of why are they in this movie? It was 1984 made sense then doing here now kirstie alley when she was young Just play that conya video. It's fine It's an idea Oh, here's uh, here's genes Oh neat. This looks like my kind of movie. Oh, he's dying to but those are spider robots. Those are one of his Movies So they're like little assassin robots and they have a little hyperdermic needle at the end that injects Uh, I just lower gas it into its victims I would never watch this I have robots building buildings. They have a made robot with a single arm that makes pasta Uh, like it's like a basically a nanny Uh, they had four tempos a self-driving automated cars They had little drones that float And they used for uh, like they the police would would release one Into uh, like a building and they would basic, uh, they could use it as a remote sensor Uh, thank you Right here. This is what they used I don't know why this movie is great. I love it. You say great Here's the drone. How are you defining great? Like this is a little little single fan. It would float up And they would go through the house and uh, basically the premise of the movie is someone that is Loading up a lot of these robots with uh Uh, a replacement for the 8086 intel processor that causes them to go homicidal and kill people That's great I don't like spiders. I don't like 8086. You like spider-man or do you think that's too too close spider-man Does not remind me of an arachnid So sure do you save smart spiders or smash them? No, I don't kill anything. Yay. Okay. Um, yeah I'm afraid of them. But I but I don't leave them If if they're if they're in the corner catching bugs, I let them do their It depends on what the spider is Black widows I kill. I'm sorry like if it's like I've killed a spider here and there, you know, but but I you know, if if at all possible I don't kill anything I want out of my house and the ones that climb in your mouth while you're asleep I swallow Um I always have to take it You know, uh, no spiders. I just I can't they just scare me. It's one of those things, you know arachnophobia is real But I still don't want to murder them. That's not the you know, it's weird I'm less afraid of large spiders than I am the small ones because I can see a large one And so I know it's coming Who's that fast the large ones you can almost see like they're hurt moving and they've got Like if you ever held a tarantula, it's like like a little dog Oh, they're great. They're like Make me run across your Why would I do Again, they're like muscular and they have fur and faces and Hey, you know what it's the ones that I don't see They're the ones that I love jumping spiders with all their Little Let's oh my god, they're so cute. Let's shift the conversation to nudibranchs Now nudibranchs, but they're just cute and pretty and yeah something we all Y'all taste like seawater that's You don't eat nudibranchs Somebody probably does It's like a sea not a sea worm. It's uh An enemy it's a marine gastropod. It's like it's a mollusk. It's related to us Little bear. I still don't know. You can eat them. I mean, I mean, I don't think they're goody I don't know kiki. Remind me where you grew up. Are you california? California your california Okay, so tom, maybe I'm not totally sure how it works and only non native california The only non native california, but like when you guys were in oh, I don't know fifth or sixth grade Did you do like tide pool tours with the school? Oh? Those were the most fun. I loved science camp. Yeah That's where you tried to step on all the sea and enemies They would squirt seawater because it was low tide Oh, well, it was just like I mean there was so much I mean, you know your little kids and you're running around you're at the beach Whatever, you know trying to you know not slip on rocks and stuff, but like you really did learn so much I love the tide pool tours. All those tide pools in Illinois Yeah, you know what we did uh, we went out and learned about fence rows and erosion on somebody's farm We did that I feel like we might have gone to the lake once and did something, you know Fairly distant but similar to what you're talking about as far as ecosystems and everything Freshwater aquatic Fifth grade I have one thing we did do that. I loved uh was we created ecosystems in a jar Where we were sent out to the woods behind the playground Because small town uh to find it was like a scavenger hunt You needed to find dead leaves soil Worms and a couple other things and you put them in a jar and see if you could you know keep the ecosystem going We had to we had to raise biel worms That was just because they were selling them They were using you for free labor and then you feed the meal worms corn meal and then you dry them out And then you turn them into flour and you put them in cookies Mmm meal worm cookies Are they high in um protein? High in protein, yeah In in fifth grade uh just to make it really weird um My uh junior high my middle school was next to a cemetery big cemetery And like In fifth grade we did not take up anybody but we did like I mean it was really like one of you know My fifth grade classroom was like on the other side of the fence was where the cemetery started Nobody really thought that was weird. It just that's what it was And we like went to like the old part of the cemetery and meditated with a student teacher one day Like the student teacher was like I got no curriculum Let's go to the cemetery and just like take all the kids and we'll all just sort of meditate, you know And boy the parental backlash After that whole thing, you know where moms were like wait, what did my kid do? Like My kid said he spoke to the dead people For the student teacher what the heck is happening in Yeah, yeah And like some of the parents didn't care but I mean it was like I remember all the kids We were sort of like this is really cool. But like this is gonna be problematic They made a nature trail in the woods behind our our playground Uh, which was great. Like it was just a you know wood chips and and little you know stands saying this is this kind of plant And and it was fun You could just walk through and walk back out and we when it first opened We would just go in there during recess and then later they shut it down and they said you can't go in there Unless the teacher is with you and we were all so upset. We're like why there's nothing dangerous in there And of course now as a grown-up. I'm like, I can't imagine the parents finding out like, oh, yeah The kids just go running the woods and we can't see them Yeah, yeah, there's all sorts of things where you're sort of like I have an incline that this might be weird for like my parents, but whatever No, see what we can get away with Sort of a gps collar so you can locate them. Have you microchipped your child yet, roger? No I don't know Seems kind of an odd thing to do Yeah, I do microchipping your pet Makes the logical sense of you. It's still a thing to do. It is still a thing to do Is it somewhat? Um, I think that's been adopted to microchip a little kid No, not really. No, okay. I mean, I don't I mean my cats are microchips, but I just don't know if Brilliant llc will be microchipping its employees. No, but there are some kids that are running. I never leave my house, tom I mean Welcome to a real boring Whose child in preschool and kindergarten just Leaves the school just runs. He just he of what he gets away from all the teachers and he just goes running And they you know, he's gotten called all the like many times and so he's had to Right is his name forest No, but they've put uh They've they've put tags on him on his like every day They have to put a tag on his pants and on his backpack and where so he can be tracked. I mean it might be easier I guess in in more tribal days Uh in in pre bronze and stone age Uh communities, he would have been like the scout you go go on ahead and see what's up there You don't hear the natural instinct to run ahead. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I just remembered the child's name is race That's great, that's not a bad name race No You know, it's like it could mean so many things Well, sadly what this means is that uh, we must go. Thank you all for joining us Bye. It was fun. Thank you