 Um, yeah, you know, out of all the animal discussions we've had, what's some what's the lethality of giraffes? Are they are they useless? Or are they like surprising giraffes? I have no clue. Incredibly docile, I'm pretty sure they are. Are they like, yeah, they seem like a skittish bunch. Yeah, like zebras are the ones that you kind of need to be careful about because they'll they'll destroy your face if you get behind them. Damn, that's yeah, that's yeah, those horses as well, right? That kick, yeah, they kick in with their legs. Yeah, let's see. Meals, though, man, talk about an animal that don't give a fuck. Meals are meals are up there. Oh, that'd be something. Which animal has the strongest kick? Oh, which animal? I think it's my Bruce Lee, which the Bruce Lee. Yeah, they all have the strongest one. Well, it says here zebras. Zebras, yeah, you said it like y'all say it for inclusion. Yeah, also there's dwelling camels apparently. OK, I can believe that a horse's kick because horses have very strong hind legs in particular. I can believe that a kick from because it's not just the kick. It's the hoof at the end and how solid they are because it's not just like I'm hitting like it's not a human punch where you've got some flash and some give and that sort of thing. There's this this this tough super horn. It's like a basically like a horn hitting you. And there's just the transition of forces must just be super intense. So apparently zebras being known to kill lions with their kick. I can believe it. All grown lions. Is it like when they when they pounce and they just get the kick right in the face? It'll like I'm imagining because that's that mechanism right? It is that they kick when they're about to be in somebody's dinner. Apparently, giraffes also have really strong kicks. Oh, good. You drafts. I guess I'd like I guess I got so much leverage in terms of their limbs and how long they could be. Let's let's see. I didn't know that giraffe kick. Yeah, so giraffes kick lions and to defend themselves. And apparently giraffes have a very high rate of survival. Survival once they become adults. Like they're just unlikely to die. Is that because they're not seen as good prospects for like meat? So this is what it says on Wikipedia. But they could be dangerous. Because of their size, eyesight and powerful kicks. Adult giraffes are usually not the subject of predation. So they get to sit in their ivory tower. Wow, almost of all the things that you could if you're a lion. And it's like we talked about with the tiger thing earlier. If you're a if you're a predator and you have to actively go out and hunt and chase prey and you have a really, really big interest in investment in staying healthy and all of your limbs working. You want to go after the week and the sick and the the the little ones when you can. You don't want to you don't want to risk the, you know, an adult big old critter kicking you or or throwing you off. You don't want to take risks if you can avoid it. Well, that's yeah, we see this sort of behavior in like lions. They were sort of you picking and choosing. Like, you're not you're not going for the strong ones. That's it's not worth it. I guess that's I didn't know that like giraffes had a really strong kick. That is a that is new. I can believe it. Yeah, I can believe it. I guess all I need in my brain is to see it logistically. Is it like a stomp? I think it would be like a kick from the hind legs, I would imagine. Was because when you look at how big a giraffe's legs are, that's true. Or yeah, actually. And hey, and plus I imagine that a giraffe's limbs have a lot of muscle to them so that it can help keep its balance because the that the neck and the head is so, you know, they're so high that those legs have to be pretty sturdy just to make sure it doesn't so it can correct itself and run and gallop as it does. But you look at these pitches like, man, giraffes are like really cool. Well, I love the idea that through natural selection of stuff, the longer the next, the more they survived. And thus they just kept getting longer with mutations. That's literally how it happened. Yeah. Yeah. That's legitimately how it. Yeah. That's that's awesome. Like they're really cool. It's it's such a cool profile for an animal. I wonder how big the hooves are. They must be fucking huge. So the front and back legs of a giraffe of the same length. They are draft can reach a sprint speed of 60 kilometers per hour. Wow, they have 60. And they can and they can sustain 50 kilometers per hour for several kilometers. Wow. Most animals are not good long distance. No, but runners, but some of them can. Humans are actually one of the best long distance. Yeah, we're top dog for endurance, right? We have a lot of endurance. Let's say animals. Humans often get classified as we're just sort of OK at everything. I'm pretty specialized for anything. But isn't endurance, though, I was like key and ingredient. That's why we're really good at we can kill anything almost because of endurance to help. Well, here's our number one is horses. Horses have the best like best marathoners, then humans and then sled dogs, then camels, then antelope, then ostrich. What is man in the listing or no second? Yeah, OK. Behind horses, because horses are better than us. Yeah, we don't we don't have. I like how we're second in the list that we just like horses. You work for us now. I like your endurance, horse. I wish to have it. We are going to turn you into something magnificent. Just give us a couple thousand years. You're going to be amazing. I don't think that that always feels like the way to describe horses, honestly, they are incredible. Yeah, that. Yeah, they're like lions. They're up there and majestic creatures. I've really come to appreciate you guys are fucking furries. I swear to God, I'm not fucked a single furry. Well, I might have, I just didn't know it, but you've been on the Internet so long, you can't separate furries from just animals. Oh, yeah, terrible. There's there's no difference. You need to go outside and see them. They do all kinds of cool things and not just people who talk about other kin. I think I think raccoons are like one of the coolest animals, the fact that they can memorize locks years later after they've cracked them. It's like, man, raccoons like this. Like, yeah, around here. Coons are they're they're they're crafty. Yeah, they're brave oftentimes. The little fun fact makes me think of like humans again. Like, hmm, can we take this power from them? Can we harvest this? It's like we need to do that with all of them. We should imagine if you just had like raccoons as bomb diffuser experts, you know, to use these bombs. And when they come back, you give them like a cookie or something. It's like, good job, buddy. You did it. I'm proud of you. Like the the big the giant African pouched rat. Right. The giant pouched rat. Hold on. Yeah. So they're these they're these big they're these big rats and they use them to sniff out landmines and stuff. And they can huge. They sent. Yeah, they're huge. And so they use them to sniff out and find all of these landmines because they're they're small enough to where they don't set off landmines or anything so they can find the landmines and mark them so that humans can go in later after all of the landmines have been filled or found and then set them off safely. And it's like a career for these rats and they take care of them and they get retired and all that sort of thing. It's on Wikipedia. They get meadows and stuff. It's super great. It's actually really awesome. In 2020, a hero rat named Magawa received a gold meadow. The animal the animal equivalent of a George Cross. I like how we have an animal equivalent of the same George. I hope the animals understand that we really appreciate what they do. Well, I'm sure they're snacking and feasting their way to happiness. Yeah, quite literally. Good rat. Yeah. This rat is a good rat. He he detected 71 landmines of 31 items of unexploded ordinance clearing over two thousands two million square feet in Cambodia, preventing many injuries and deaths in his five year career. Like this rat has done more good for the world. Like a lot. Yeah, a lot of humans. Honestly, as well, I had giraffes searching on my screen. I was just like at a distance. I was like, it kind of looks like he has an afro. Just like no, it doesn't. He is. What's your after my style? He has got style. Look at him. I was thinking, yeah, once you get to be an adult giraffe, life's just sort of easy mode from that point on. Yeah, you'll never just like I made it. I made it. I made it. I was going to eat leaves and fucking then that's it. Yeah, I've done it. I made it on this conversation. I was thinking about how if we got to a point where you could like customize to complete like levels, what kind of pet you would want. So they're completely obedient and domesticated to whatever degree. What do you think would end up being the most popular? Do you think it would just be dog or do you think it would be something more crazy and exotic? I feel like if I think it's like that it's not difficult to keep. Like they are some. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if there was a modifier where like I could make it so they don't eat much, they're still like as big as they are and can run as far. Like if you could modify their can you modify their like actual needs as animals in terms of space? I was going to go see this is the thing. I think I answered my own question. So it's like if it was completely unlocked, you could do whatever you wanted. I imagine people fucking have like dragons and shit that are really friendly and don't hit or kill anything and don't even eat food. They're just chill. I mean, if it had to be a real animal, it'd probably be bears because they're pretty resilient and they're kind of fluffy. And, you know, if they were friendly, it'd be nice. So you think like with bears, we would eventually breed them to be like we'd have teacup bears and stuff like that, like little mini bears. Or really, really big ones. Mini bears. You could keep them the size of a cub, essentially their whole lives. Just yeah, being able to have something like because I think that'll be the big determinant is there will be a size limit on what people will be able to reasonably have. Well, I think of like a character creation screen with sliders and stuff so you can you can do pretty much whatever you want. Yeah. And if you wanted to select the color of your bear, like a bear the size of your hand, and that's its maximum or, I don't know, a mouse the size of your house if you really, really want to. Or a grouse the size of your house. Oh, yeah, I was thinking if it was full on locks, I think people go like fantasy creatures. Someone like, I want a balrog. I want a little balrog to follow me around. I feel like I definitely would like a penguin to just go out with like, you know, they already show it anyway. Yeah, that's right. So I don't even need to change them. They're just they're just fine. The way they are just perfect. You knock out the right like the environmental requirements for them are just all sorted through genetic engineering. So they can like, I think dogs would still take the top spot. I think they have a they have a huge head start in terms of culture and history and I think people would default to just having the perfect dog. They would edit it so the dog is always happy and stuff. Well, and you already have so many different varieties of dog. It's almost like, you know, canis familiaris gives you so many different options just from that alone. That it would fill so many different requirements from the very big ones to the tiny ones because there's like, like there's a dog for everyone kind of. Well, I saw somebody in chat suggest something interesting. Velociraptor or like a dinosaur. Well, again, if you could just make up your own creature, right? That's what something that could be done with a lot of people. People might do that. Like, check out fucking awesome. Mine is they can fly. It can breathe ice. Yeah, you start off with the basics. Like, all right, do you want an endotherm or an ectotherm? I was like, OK, this one or that one? Like, which one's better for this? Which is better for that? Or you want male or female as I don't know. A little leg slider goes from zero to like thousands. I don't know. Three. If if there was like a fantasy creature, like a standard fantasy creature, what would what do you think would be like the most popular one? Probably a dragon. The griffin maybe would be up there. You mean that people would keep his pets or just people that people just like? No, that's past. Well, pets makes it complicated because a lot of these things are like, can you imagine the requirements of keeping a dragon? Holy shit. Yeah, that would be only the super wealthy would be able to afford the upkeep on one. Let's assume that I don't know they eat as much as a dog. And then. Well, OK. I guess the dragon is like if you needed to move into an apartment, you just box like that's right. It's going to sleep on the roof or like that. If he does, he might destroy the building. You can never have a dragon too volatile, even accidentally. I think I feel like it might be more viable. The dragon is huge as well. Pretty big pocket dragon. Oh, that's big. Yeah. Like a little like a like a worm or a or a I don't know. I don't know that I don't know how big they are in terms like worm, Drake, Salamander, cobalt, dragon, you know, I don't know the sliding scale. Cobals are small, but I think they're like they're not animals. They're they're intelligent, so they don't really count. Are they that kind of dumb? It depends on I get it depends on which kind of cobalt you go with. I mean, they're like a playable race in some tabletop RPGs, like Pathfinder and stuff. They're enemies and other things. I can see Pegasus being part of that. Oh, yeah, Pegasus, because that's just like a horse. It's just a fly. It's just horse. It's horse DLC is essentially what it pretty much. And everyone who has horses, they already like have them. Oh, man, Pegasus is actually a really good one. Like that's a good one. Again, the elegance about the gestic. Yeah. Top of the list for the majestic creature is the Pegasus. A gnome. You just have a gnome. We were forgetting unicorns. Oh, yeah, of course. Unicorns. I prefer I don't see much value in unicorns. Like they have a horn on their head. That's well, no, here's the thing. The horn has incredible medicinal properties are. Oh, yeah, if it can cast spells and shit, you know. Yeah, the horn of a unicorn can like cure any disease, but unicorns are super duper pure and harming one or killing one is. It's against nature itself. And depending on the lure, I mean, only virgins can see unicorns depending on, you know, which iteration of it you go with. Just paint it so that you can always see it. Just paint it. You can always see the paint. The invisible horse. I was going to say as well, I don't want to undermine the importance of choosing gnome. I love the idea of bringing out your little gnome. And it's just a guy who's like, I don't like this. I don't like your pet. It's fucked up at me. My freedom. The giant creature. Like, no, you're happy, though. But he's like, I'm not happy. No, I'm not. This is not what I saw in my life being as a grown up. I bet, you know, I bet some of the I bet some of the monkeys would be high on that list, too. Flying monkeys. Imagine if you had just a chimpanzee, he's like, yeah, a chimpanzee or a they have all the different kinds of monkeys that aren't particularly like big, even they could just hang out, hang out with you wherever you go. And I'm looking for this. I've been looking for this. And these guys literally already did this. I just put it in the chat there. Couple race. Oh, no. They have bear a son. They raised a bear and lived with a bear and everything was fine. On Baron Pasta, despite warnings, he killed them. But wait, so he did, I'm guessing. No, no, the bear lived to to old age and died. Wow, happy family. I can believe that there are plenty of docile bears who are more than hang around to eat the pasta. Well, you never is the main one that you about. You guys have had a boy, Jack, right? Oh, I don't think so. Oh, so every once in a while, I watch, I get recommendations for like animal videos and it'll be like this, you know, this like like this farmer and his cow have like they're like super good friends or someone with a bear or some crazy crazy Russian man lives with bear as son for a 20 year or something like that. Well, it'll pop up. Wojak predates the bear videos because he was he was he was in World War Two. He was part of the Polish Army or is it Wojtek? Oh, yeah, that's that's his name. I don't understand Wojak Wojtek. That's his name. Oh, damn, I need to. I like I wonder if there's actually a Wojak of him, then. Maybe. Where is the gentle Ben, though, right? That's a famous bear. Ben, I have a question. He starts in another story. If the benefit that he eventually eats them. Bear, no, Ben, no, Wojak, part of the Russian army. And he delivered artillery to to like Polish soldiers. So he'd like carry the artillery to them and help them fire it. He got a medal and agree. Yeah, it's and he's got a whole bunch of statues for him all over the place. Oh, yeah, I can imagine if you could get a bear to do all that stuff. You bet you bet your ass you're building statues. Yeah, he's got statues in like all over in Poland. He's got statues in Scotland. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they put that particular part of the army put a bear on their like logo or their coat of arms. Like specifically that's a good history to call back to. Like, yeah, we had a bear who helped us. We had a bear who delivered artillery to us. This is a special bear that we use to deliver artillery shells. It's fine. It's no big deal. You know, I assumed everyone else had one. I guess they don't, but it's it's fine. It's whatever it is. I thought everybody had like really cool bears that hang out and drink vodka with them and to live there was a good idea. And so we did it. It's weird that no one else did that. I don't know. I guess if it's special, that would be really awesome. And if it became like common, it would be really awesome up until it's like, should they have rights? Well, yeah, well, what kind of like the bears really should they even start talking, communicating and stuff? And then one of them at one point is like, can I can I like live life the way I want to? It's like, I'm a conscious subject or I don't like I don't want to do this. I don't want to fire as a pacifist. Yeah, well, if he just had it, he just created Winnie the Pooh in real life. Oh, I don't think this is a good decision. Father. He just wants to eat a lot of food. Distances shouldn't be something that I focus on. I'm rumbling in my tumbly for Vodkly Vodkly. I just he does nothing but drinks mead all the time. Enjoy his windy days. So anyway, the days. So anyway, the big one. Yeah, well, I'm going to have one 48 with special guest. Thin long otaku. Hello, sir. How do you do? This is how you guys always start it? Yes, pretty much. Jibber jab for a while. We got to let everyone get in, you know? And instead of putting a will be here in 15 minutes screen, like all of the hack streamers out there. Instead, we have a little chin wag and anybody who is here can have some fun, listen, contribute and then people who aren't here will be able to catch up right away. Wag, a chin wag. I am not aware of this as saying, chin wag. So I want to go to the channel and just kind of checked it out. And you guys have the EFAP minis that are like five hours long. And then you have EFAP regulars there, like 10 hours long. Is that about right? Yeah. And then, yeah, the minis are smaller. Yeah, that's much smaller. So you ever have any EFAP maxis with like a whole day? Every once a year. Yeah, we're actually doing one in like two weeks. It's going to be great. Yeah, our year anniversaries, we do, yeah. And talk about all of the things. Nice, nice. Someone in the chat says that clout chasing a lamoid called SFO is here. That's me. Well, chasing a lamoid. You would have been your all name. You would have been your last week, but Satan did stuff to you. It was horrible. And yes, we are now at the point where it's like, well, we could have you on. But we can't possibly talk about last week's subject because it's done. And then Hassan decided to have comments upon what happened. And so me being the fun little content creator that I am, remember, we don't exist. People who make YouTube videos and stream for long amounts of time. They're a mystical creature. They're a rare. Nobody knows what they are. Like a Pegasus. Yeah, a Unicron. That's what I can believe that only virgins would watch his son. Well, I did something that I would not recommend anyone ever do. I'm currently editing a video of nondescript nature. And when I'm doing visual edits, right, I'll be. I'll say something in the timeline. I'll be like, right, I need the visual blah, blah, blah. I will go search for it while I'm searching for it. I'm like, I could play a video of any kind. This is time that I can spend catching up on channels. I'm subscribed to actually want to listen to as well as different things. Maybe testing out for eFap or in this case, I was told he did some had some thoughts on what we'd said. And so I decided to take the entire stream and watch it from start to finish. To make sure I got the full context, chopped it up, put it together in a new way to let you guys enjoy in 20 minutes. That's how long the video is, what I had to go through in eight hours. So hours. Well, I put it on one point five or two times speed to not kill myself too. More hours. Wow. Yeah, I'm still and all I can is the first time I've watched a full stream from a son and I am even more baffled than before. He is the like, what what do you get by being there? I don't understand it. It's well, it's a bit unwatchable, isn't it? Yeah, but he's simultaneously unwatchable and one of the most popular strivers. It's like, what? How did Foggles the mind? He's kind of like he's kind of like the inverse of Crowder because I also think Crowder is kind of unwatchable, but he's also hyper popular. So what's the opposite team? I feel like these these sorts of anomalies exist all over the place. It's really hard to figure out what the fuck's happening, because I watched I watched the eight hours. I gave myself timestamps to make sure when I go back through it, I knew what I could collect to show you guys what I found on my journey. It was like, it was going to a different world, watching a whole sound stream, because the thing I find that's really interesting about what made it escape, mentally unscathed, comparing something like EFAP to a lot of Twitch streams is they as you guys saw from last week, this is kind of simultaneously catching up. By the way, do you want to call it? What do you do? Do you wish to go by short Fatotaku or or Dev? You can call me Dev. That's sweet. That's a lot simpler. So I guess that's short. I will. Here's the thing. Oh, that does my real name. Oh, sweet. But yeah. But yeah, the whole short talk thing just came about because when we started our channel, we were we were just we were younger. We were doing like me and my friends doing like anime stuff. And it was just kind of like a jokie name that that stuck. And now I'm just stuck with it. So it's not short for you being a developer or or a devastation. You know what? You YouTube YouTube audiences react poorly if you change your YouTube channel name, you know? They do. Who the fuck is this? Why am I subscribed to this guy? Like we we started the channel in like 2009. We were just goofing around and then it just stuck, you know? It just kind of happens that way. Well, I think it's beautiful. I think it's it's it's quick, short, nice and fat, you know? And and rapper. It's just beautiful. I usually knew someone else called Dev IRL. I can't remember what their fucking full name was, if there was. Was it? Is it just Dev? Is Dev short for anything in the entirety of the earth? I'm trying to think. Like I'm not I'm not saying a single thing about it because people are already trying to dox me right as well. Oh, yeah, no worries. I was just thinking out of curiosity. A few have now come to mind. But what I was what I was saying was with streams like EFAP compared to, let's say, a lot of Twitch streamers, as you saw with last week, so again, as I'm going to catch people up, he felt that he was like the our issue must be when he leaves the camera. He was like, oh, you know, I'm going to get food. I'm still watching it. So there's no difference without realizing that we don't actually care if he's on the camera or not. It's the lack of commentary, the lack of transforming the fucking content. So what I find interesting is what the point was was actually shocking. Fascinating, honestly, like what a what a dumb, dumb person. So what I found interesting is a comparison to Eva. We can't get away with that. Like if we're not talking, everyone might be like, shit, are they gone? Hello, which happens a lot. Some guests might be quiet for like five or ten minutes and then people will be like, are they dead? Do they die? Are they gone? It's just like because we don't have video of us making some faces, eating some nuggies, you know, we don't get that content, I guess, when they are here watching us. We don't get the benefit of that. And so we we have to keep commentating to not only make up for that, but also because we feel that is what we're fucking here to do. Well, have you guys ever considered doing a bunch of facecams and then doing like soy faces right into them? I've considered your thing. Streaming a chair on my list. Put that on my list here. I see a few firstly attacked by a comment. Hello, metal. Hi, we have a soy face and we will use a webcam. Yeah, I could. Yeah, because I said just a chair, which metal is done before and he's played. Yeah, I also while he goes, I know. That would be a great meme to catch on on the Internet. Whenever you need to go AFK, you just put on Hassan Piker screams. I would love that. That's just what everyone does. Well, one of the things we saw when one of his fads was like, you couldn't just play copyright free music and put a B.R.B. screen on like and then named like some stream as a do. He just goes, no, it's not what I want to do. Like I just want to play other people's stuff. Geez. So when I was watching it, I got a full set of all the things that we had issues with him for, which, by the way, this is after he knew about like the response from Jay and stuff. This is the stream after and eventually it got to the point where an unfortunate viewer made a comment that made him think about this horrible circumstance that we're in right now. He decided to comment on it. And then soon after he starts commenting on copyright, which was unrelated entirely to our situation, more so related to a streamer called XQC, who is counterclaiming being sued by the Olympics, I think, because he was watching the Olympics on Twitch and they they tried to shut him down. And now he's trying to counter sue, which is good. That'll be an interesting topic as well. He should have just said he was playing like the PS5 Olympics game. The Sonic and Mario, the Olympics or whatever. You guys recall that how it happened a couple of years ago. There was like a UFC match and one guy was they streamed UFC, but they put themselves in the corner with a controller and they're like, I'm playing UFC. Yeah, they they bravo to that person. But I wouldn't recommend doing that. That's what you're playing with fire on that one. Oh, yeah, I have provided you guys a watch together link. Now, like I said, the format of this is me having condensed eight hours into 20 minutes of things that are worthwhile in seeing from his stream, but not because they're interesting from him, simply because they're interesting for us to be able to respond to. He's not happy with our existence, not a surprise. Good. That's a badge of honor. You know, unfortunately, I have to ask a little bit of context. What happened last week that made him. So it all begins, guys, in the wonderful world of Twitch where they watch videos without commenting on them while eating food sometimes and also leaving the room. This happened to Jay's relatively recent video. I think it came out like a year ago or something. That's why I say rounds of a recent couple streamers watched it, which is fine, but then one streamer watched it critical without seeing really anything. And then like just thanking subs as they came in. And when the video finished, no credit just moved on. And so it was, you know, we're crossing a line between enjoying and reacting to content while providing your own criticism slash commentary and that your fans can sort of engage with you with. We've crossed over to you're just pilfering other people's content to entertain your viewers while you get paid, which is ethically not cool. That's mainly the point we're going with. And that's what Jay was saying. And Jay was just like, not not not cool, but you know what, it's fine. We did a whole episode going through it on, I think, Episode 144. I can't quite remember now, but nice and fun. Then Hassan watched this video and he provided what was probably the most embarrassing reaction to it out of everybody. He left the room for most of it and he covered what you like the channel name for most of it. And the second Jay started to promote. Just so clear, when when he says he covered the channel name, he like it was covered up. Yeah, what I mean is he full screened it, like he didn't do it deliberately. He did it because he's incompetent, which is the answer to a lot of things Hassan does. He started to watch your video, but didn't credit you at all, basically. Well, Jay, he watched the whole he had the whole video entertain his fans and then run to the end. Jay is like, I'm working on a Doctor Who video. You can then he just cuts him off and then goes on to the next topic. There's like, oh, just see it. And the undiscerning viewer might think that it was spiteful in nature. Little bit. It reminds me of something that me and metal the thing that me and metal met over all those years ago. It's this this idea that you're like, you can't promote on my content. Go away when it's like you just you just stole. What the hell? And yeah, and there are many highlights, including but not limited to a chatter saying that Jay is the one that should try and make some content before complaining and meaning that Hassan is the one that's actually working hard. That boy. Yeah, absolutely insane. Then you have Hassan saying, what do you expect him to do? Die. Like in relation to just pause the fucking video when you're not in the room. That would be a really great start. And then he said is his big excuse for all of this is that sometimes his mother isn't there to cook him the nuggies. So something that I think even huge fans of Hassan would have been like, he probably shouldn't have said that. That wasn't a great thing to have said. But he said it unironically, he even did like it was delivered after a big buildup explained his like his career. I think he said it almost like a humble brag in his mind. He's like, yeah, that's I'm so cool. My mom still cooks me food. I'm like 30 or whatever. And not only am I an adult, I'm an insanely rich adult. And of course, snafu, the man who criticized him entirely fairly in his chat, got banned for it because Hassan was very upset. So you might say the topics could be considered to be to be copyright criticisms, his his opinions on everything that happened and his approach with chat as well as some other comments. Those are like the sections that I managed to collect up. So yeah, if you guys would like, I will I will take you through a journey of his eight hour stream. I don't know which one it was exactly like tiles and stuff. But he wears a Korean veteran hat in it. And so I left a clip in the beginning of him explaining why because I was really confused by it, but he gives his reason. I I so I got to jump in here because there's there's still one bit of context that I'm missing and that maybe I just didn't hear it or you left it out or something. So all of this happened. Hassan watching, you know, person's video and then kind of just basically stealing the content, right? Yes. And so the next thing that happened was that you you like last week, the show that I was supposed to be on was you. Yeah, Dave. So hey, I lost my internet for like five hours. I'm sorry. But OK. OK, so last week, when you did EFAP last week, what what happened that caught Hassan's attention? Well, we I mean, I don't want to spoil it. He hasn't seen any of it. He's going to be responding to it. He hasn't seen any of it. He's upset that we did it at all. Oh, really? It's just interesting considering like it doesn't make any sense at all. How if he hasn't responded to it yet, like on his channel or anything, how do you know he's upset? Did he send you a message or so? What I'm saying is he did respond to it. He hasn't seen it. Oh, yeah, you have you have the same problem that I had where I constantly just by my nature tend to give him way more credit than he deserves or is owed. And then I have to learn as I have I have to slowly learn to just stop doing that with his son, like what? This is the thing. If he was to have watched it and came away with a negative reaction, I would totally understand. I just find it infinitely hilarious how much people love to fucking comment thoroughly on things they didn't have any concept of whatsoever other than existing. So Hassan like rolls over, sees the thumbnail and is like, oh, those fucking guys, how dare they? And then like rolls back to sleep. Yes, he's pissed off. The thing is he's been doing this for years as something of an argument he puts up himself. So I've been doing this for ages. So, you know, fuck off. Like, oh, that's a it's a great argument for you. I've been shitty for a decade now. How dare you? Yeah, we've been making shit out of it for way longer. Well, I've actually become kind of kind of like a destiny fan over the past year or so. But one thing that I do know that destiny does and sometimes he doesn't do it the best is he'll do he'll do that same kind of thing is that he'll watch the people's videos. Generally, he reacts to them. But there are times like if he has to go to the washroom or if the, you know, someone's at his door, he'll leave the video running for like five minutes and he comes back and he's like, what did I miss? And it's like, well, that's not exactly the greatest. Yeah, I would never do that. It's just, yeah, I don't think she should do it. I also know that he will, he will watch a video if his fans poke him enough about it. And I made a video just talking about how much I've been enjoying his content recently. And so eventually enough of his fans said, listen, you got to watch this as a vote. You got to watch this as a vote. So he says, okay, he finally does it. And I knew that his fans did that. So at the very end, I put in a remix of Jesse Lee Peterson singing beta mail and over top of all of these pictures of Destiny hanging out with various like Twitch thoughts because I know that he would watch it on the stream and like he like immediately turned the video off. He was like, ah, he turns the video off and like his entire chat erupts at him. It was, it was, it was amazing. Amazing. Yeah, from what I know, his arguments aren't too great on this either. He's got as much as he does better than Hassan, like way better in terms of creating content from responding to them. He'll say like, everyone's doing it. So whatever. It's like, that's not, not great. A lot of people value and like, because for example, I think a good way Destiny does it is he will pull up like a true crime video. And he has some, he like he's talked to some police officers about like the various things that have happened in a true crime video. And then in the case, he has some knowledge of legal proceedings. It's good to see things like broken down a bit more. I think there's some value in that. Definitely. Well, absolutely. That's as like properly responding to a video. Well, that should be the just the default that you would expect everyone would do. And the way to fucking do it is just like, this is, by the way, this was Jay's one and only request. He wanted more, but he was happy at the baseline of tell them who made the video and where you can find them. That's it. Yeah. And yeah, of course, I was asking quite a bit. So that's gonna be, that'll come up as a topic as well in this collection. But yeah, hopefully that catches everybody up who wasn't already caught up and we can jump right in. A bunch of different things. Isn't it weird for people to wear what veterans has without being a veteran? No, it's deliberate. I'm doing it on purpose. I'm wearing a Korea veteran hat. I'm clearly not a fucking Korea veteran, dude. That's why he asked. I said, oh, it's such a great start. I know what this is referencing. Do you guys know what he's referencing here? Well, I've gotten a clue on what he's referencing. He's referencing the recent trans-racial thing. He got into some trouble in the past couple of weeks. Maybe about a month ago over the trans-Korean person, if you remember that story. I don't know. Was that the one where he tried to counter-argue and he was crossing lines without realizing it, which he does a lot? Let me just, yes. Let me just figure out who was the person. Yeah. What was their individual? Olly London got a bunch of surgeries to be trans-Korean. And that was like a month ago. And Hassan basically went on his stream and he has no knowledge of anything ever. Yeah, that sounds about right. So he goes on his stream and he's like, you know, this trans-Korean stuff sucks, but I don't actually have a solid argument against it. And I just don't like it because it makes trans people look bad. It's like, well, you're not, you know, exactly helping your argument there. That sounds like something that he would totally say. I just, I know what the effects, it might make this thing look bad. So therefore I'm just not gonna, you know, touch it. He had like, there's like a 20 minute clip of him just being like, I can't argue against this, but I don't like it. And I got the whole clip. And he basically completely embarrassed himself. And I think that's what he's doing here. Why he's wearing a Korean veteran because there was a giant shit storm after that because like the entire trans community thought that he had abandoned them. Everyone's like laughing at this guy. Or like, I did a video, Sargon did a video. A bunch of the people did videos on this, on like the stupidity. Like it was one of the biggest moments of Hassan putting his foot in his mouth. And I think he's trying to do something here with a Korean veteran hat. Well, he's about to, well, he's about to give what his reasoning is, but yeah, you might be right on the, that might be the subtext of all this because I didn't know that that was what he was going for. Stealing Valor. Do you understand? I'm doing it on purpose. I am stealing Valor from the veterans from Korea. Wait, what? I don't understand. No, that's bad. I got this is where I put it in because I knew everyone was gonna ask why he was wearing the hat. That was his reason. So that's all I got. Because he's stealing Valor? Because that's a really shitty thing to do though. It is. Well, so it makes you feel like if we missed a joke or something, or is he just, you know? Yeah, I mean, I think there's like, there's something here where like, maybe he's trying to do like a, listen, the trans Korean argument is dumb because you can't be, for example, a trans veteran. You know, you can't identify as a veteran despite not having served and then claim that identity and then... If that's what he's going after, like, I guess, but I just, the way that he just... I was an analogist though. Well, so it's so flatly explained that... It's so flatly explained them without context that I could totally see people just be like, wait, why are you stealing Valor? Yeah, he's just saying, no, no, no, I'm doing the bad thing when everyone's wondering why are you doing the bad thing? And his answer in his response is, oh, I'm doing the bad thing. And the worst part about it is that if you're actually going to go down the stealing Valor route, that also still completely invalidates like trans women and trans men. You could definitely make the argument that, oh, look at trans women is stealing Valor from cis women if that's how you value these things. And it's like, no, this doesn't help your argument, Hassan, this doesn't help what you're trying to say. It actually hurts it. On the last week's stream, I was explaining how the whole N-word shit with destiny, he accidentally made arguments that he wasn't supposed to in terms of what his community believe and support. Because Hassan's just really bad at this. He always has been. Is there any, why does he have a Cuban, is he like, does he have a special affinity for like Cuba? Why is he going to Cuba? I'm not going to have any answers for these questions. Tatars everybody loves. I will not know. I'm pretty sure, you know, Cuba is the dictatorship that even the, that the libertarian leftists like quite a bit. So it's a political thing. This next section is basically, as I was watching his stream, it's more so listening to it. Every once in a while, I would peer over because I can't tell the difference between him being there and not being there because it's pretty much the same commentary. So every once in a while, I'd be like, oh shit, he's not even there. So I've given you just a little compilation of the times that he did it. I've got Skeletor for copyright protection. And for anybody who doesn't know, John Oliver's videos, like, whether or not you hate him and stuff, they're pretty well edited. Like there's a lot of work that goes into them. It's like the actual show. So like this is clearly just like, well, it's what we've been talking about. But the more interesting part is, we're certainly there just watching, just chilling out. This is a little jacket. This is times nine speed right now. Oh. Oh God. Oh, is that? Oh, he's back. He's back. The job doesn't offer it. And our foreign marketplaces aren't very profitable. If I get sick, I can't get tested positive. I can't help you with these options. Yeah, whatever. I can't help you with the last few things that were the only thing I was right. I need to get tested positive. You're like, this is perfect. Preston, we want the right to go, and you have to get tested positive. I need to get tested positive. And that man's story is when nobody's here. And he just leaves again. He's said a word. So like- True. That took a lot out of me. I got to go take a shit. Just wanna mention- You know what I will say? Yeah, go ahead. I will say it's nice that he left because that axe behind him looks really nice. Yeah, it's the God of War axe, looks cool. It's just some cool stuff back there, I gotta say. Yeah. The paper cut out of Bernie is way more entertaining than the actual big thing itself. Just a literal piece of paper with Bernie on it is providing more insightful commentary than his son. At least he's here. So someone in chat said, is he not stealing content from TV at this point? Is he not flying close to the sun? That's actually gonna come up as a topic in the last third of this video, so don't you worry. Oh, you and your insight. No, wait, is this chronologically edited? Like, is this the beginning of a stream? So, you're not watching in chronological order? These are sections. Okay, that was a question. This section is the beginning of the stream. It pops up the video and just leaves. No. No, it was. The first hour of the stream is just him not there. Yeah, that would be good. This compilation is just the time to be left, but I'm trying to let you know where, because I change up the speeds. I think, at one point, it's times, it's times 27 at one point. This could be that. Look how fast chat is going. Oh, there you go. Oh, man. Holy shit. And I knew, I knew I didn't need to put a Skeletor on this bit, because there's no like, I don't think they'll copyright me for playing the fucking video at 25 times speed, or 27. But yeah, imagine, you're just sitting there like, okay, when does the content happen? Can you pause for a second? Oh, I can pause it, can I? Yeah, yeah. You want to hit the button a little bit. The bottom left, don't hit the screen, it doesn't work. All right, so, while you were watching this and putting all this together for our sake, were you watching his chat and noticing people say like, hey, where's Hassan? Is it actually complaining that he wasn't around? Well, you can see one there that says, good one, Hassan. Like, obviously, commenting on the fact that he's not even here. But yes, once they hit about the like five. I'm going to go right below it. They did him here for Reacts. I could watch this whenever. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're here for Reacts, like, why did you the fuck you think? You know who this is, right? And so what eventually happens, I think it takes like a minute before they go from just being chill about it to being like, where are you, question mark, like, hello. And it's mixed in. It's a very low percentage of his audience that care. I honestly think most of them are there for the community. They're not actually there for Hassan. He's just a hub. Well, like, I feel like this is proof. Like, they don't actually give a fuck if you're actually there. Like, they don't need you. To be honest, that's actually, in my opinion, the sign of a good and healthy community is that, like, if you're there, that's good. But also, if your chat can like bounce off of each other and they're there for each other as well, it means you have like some kind of community bonding. I think you kind of want that on some level. Isn't that just, isn't that going to be in all communities, though? It depends. Part of what makes them a community is the fact that they can, you know, bounce off each other and stuff. It still needs to revolve around you, fundamentally, if you're a content creator. But the idea that they could, you know, if you're not streaming, but they're still hanging out in the chat afterwards, that generally means that you have like a pretty tight community. And you kind of want that. You need both, you know? Well, that goes as far as to stay is pretty tight. I guess it depends on what's being said. Like, if there were a bunch of like crazy. Why are you even there? Well, this is the thing. If he was to keep, like, if he started leaving to the point of not being around for four hours of every eight hour stream and then more and more and more, I think the community would start to fall apart. Yes, yeah, yeah. I agree, yeah. Yeah, but like, he's got the correct ratio for now that it can maintain. And this is the thing. I feel like this is almost evolutionary. Like, he's constructed the perfect way. He's pushed it as far as he can into Lazy Town without destroying the stream. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Well, yeah, see, for example, I've been in like other communities before as well. Even before I had a community of my own where, you know, people would, okay, this is like maybe 12 years ago now, back when Twitch was, you know, good. Oh my God. But there was a Twitch streamer that I followed back in the day. And when they weren't streaming, there'd still be like between 50 and 100 people just hanging out in their Twitch chat at all times, just hanging out, talking, waiting for the next stream to start. And I think if you wanna be a successful creator, you have to have that level of attraction that people are willing to stay, not only for you, but for each other. Well, is it interesting to consider that every time he leaves, there's a video, and dare I say, this would be top content to his community, something like a John Oliver video. And so does it count as much if they're able to just bounce off that? Yeah, it is a bit different. Like, if they're waiting for a stream versus the streams on, and it's literally nothing, and the guy just walks away, yeah. Yeah. However though, I mean, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, just for the sake of it. There are some Twitch channels where the point of the channel is actually not the streamer at all. A great example of this is the MXC Twitch channel, where all they do is they just play MXC episodes 24-7, all five seasons just on a playlist loop. And people in there, they talk to each other quite a bit, more than they watch the show. So the problem is that Hassan isn't doing a stream like that, he's doing a stream about him, and then he's not present, you know? Well, and he's also claiming- You can do this sort of thing. That he's also claiming that this is his react content, like that's how he looks at it. Yeah, yeah. When he's not in the fucking room. And there's no reaction. The reaction is that he walks away. But yeah, I think you can make a community like this, where it's basically about watching other people's content, but it has to be structured differently. It can't be the way Hassan's doing it. Well, that would be the ultimate evolution, if you could actually manage to get to the point where he just has a playlist that updates every new video from every new content creator and just plays them all, and then you'll read the donations at the end or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So someone in the chat is asking what MXC is. MXC was- Most extreme elimination challenge? Yes, it's excellent. One of the greatest shows ever made, unironically has some of the best, most clever writing that you will ever see on a TV show hosted by Vic Romano and Kenny Blankenship. Kenny Blankenship. Kenny Blankenship. With reporter Guy LaDouche. Mm-hmm. And who was the fourth one? Oh, Captain T'Neil. Captain, yeah, Captain T'Neil, yeah. It was based on the Takeshi's Castle, and it was essentially an English dub of Takeshi's Castle, which was a crazy Japanese TV show as they are. And it recontextualizes- It made it crazy. It was like a comedy dub, yeah. Yeah, it's a comedy dub of Takeshi's Castle, and it recontextualizes everything as like contests between two professions or teams and things, and like seriously, it's great, and everyone needs to watch it. It's amazing. It's super clever, extremely funny stuff. So it ran for five seasons, and I think it went off the air in like 2007 finally. And the fifth season was lost to time, actually, for a long time, but the MXC YouTube channel just has all the episodes from all five seasons on a loop, and you can just watch them, just tune into the Twitch channel, you can watch them whenever you want. But the chat, there's like gambling bots in there, and the chat talks to each other, and they laugh at the show, but it's a community based on the shared experience of watching another piece of content that isn't actually the channel owners, if that makes sense? Yeah, because the first one they tried this with was Bob Ross, right, and Power Rangers and stuff. Yes, yeah. Yeah. And that was decent too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing, it's just a completely different beast to something like this, I would say. Because this is the thing, the issue people are taking, including myself, Jay, and everyone else is just like, you get this sense of like, man, don't you feel bad about doing this? And then when the person's like, no, you're like, oh, we have an issue. I need to explain to you why this is bad. So this problem, yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I guess if the expectation wasn't that Hasan was reacting to it, but he was just a channel playing this stuff, it'd be fine, but he's literally walking away from his own reaction, which is the problem, yeah. If it were a channel playing it with permission from the YouTubers and there's links to be able to grab them, I'd be cool with it, but if it was a channel that literally just plays their favorite YouTube videos and tries to like monetize that, I'd probably take issue with it again because it feels like we're falling down the same hole of Jynx. Yeah, yeah. Permission is super important. What MXC instead of Hasan. He's so sorry. Well, MXC is the biggest thing. MXC is the anti-Hasan. It is incredibly clever. It's super-duper entertaining. Things are constantly happening. It's paced extremely well. Each segment has content in it. Whether you're watching the contestants, listening to the dubs of the things they say, listening to Neil or Guy or the host, there's always something happening and it's got this great pacing to it as it bounces from segment to segment in game to game. And yeah, it's the anti-Hasan. It's everything he isn't. And the worst part is they would not make it today. No, there was a lot of pain for you. I don't know if you've watched it recently, but I don't know if you've watched it recently, but there are some jokes that would not fly today in that show. Ooh, no. They were just fine in the early 2000s. It's edgy. It's funny as fuck, but it's really edgy. And yeah, that's one of those shows that we would just never be able to have if things were as they were today. The 90s to North with media peaks. No, it's like back then you were trying to be edgy. And now we've just gone the reverse where you're just, you can't do that. Yeah, yeah. Or you want to have the appearance of edginess. You want to be the boys where it's so edginess. It's not actually edgy. Oh, we're in for so much more about it. Boys is not edgy. Yeah, it's definitely not edgy. It wants to wear the appearance of edginess and seem that way, but it's not actually edgy. I think the boys are just violent. Like there's nothing else to it. Yeah, it's gory and that's like. Well, then they have boobies sometimes and swear words and you're like, ooh. Yeah, except that they don't have any, like you have a character who's meant to be a racist who like doesn't use any slurs because the writers don't want to put in. She's a friendly racist. She wouldn't want to offend anybody while killing them. It's like she says one by accident as she's murdering and it's like that's going on Twitter. You're like, no. No. Yeah, it's all right. Let's see what are the commentary he's got for us. Yeah, bye. Oh, boy. We cannot do anything beyond wishing the mercy of God for the lives we have lost. Oh, wow. Oh, jeez, man. It's really awkward. We cannot do something like God's mercy is like, all right. Oh, I'll be right back. I'll get some food. It's just feels inappropriate. And the other thing, it doesn't stop the fast forward when he sits back down because his commentary is the same as when he's not used to. Yeah, that's the point being made. He's just like really just top notch. Yeah. Here, whether or not he's actually sitting there, he's not saying anything anyway. So it's like, all right. He may as well not be sitting there. There's so many people in this chat like adding him's like, hey, check this and he has this question. He's like, I don't have chat open. I don't know. Well, that was a theory I had from the last time. I was like, I feel like he also farms his chat for content. He does cycle through it and just click links and stuff and answer questions every once in a while. And I'm just like, man, he doesn't have to do anything like in terms of prep. He's just, he just walks on. He's like, what videos have people released for me today? I know Destiny does that. I know people like Vosh do that. If you have a big enough chat, you can just let them link you stuff. And they're like, watch this, watch this, watch this. Yeah, naturally. You have like three hours of content right there. If it comes from them, that means it's stuff they want you to see. So it's like symbiotic, which by the way, I really do think there are plenty of ways to do that properly, but man. Like actually reacting to the things that you're being linked and offering insight and commentary. Yeah. That's asking a lot to be fair. Honestly, I think the best way to do it is to have an idea of a topic and have a few links of your own. And then if your chat wants to expand on it, they can. But you have to be the one to direct the conversation first. Oh yeah, he's flowing in the wind. He's just like, whatever happens next, happens next. He is a leaf in the wind with all of the style and brain capacity. He's fired all cylinders right now. Look at him go. I can believe that there are plants that are more intelligent than Hassan Piker. He strikes me as the kind who could, like I feel like he could, I feel like he could lose a game of chess to a fern. I guess that's the awkward part, right? It's like, if you just put a fucking piece of lily in that chair, like you're getting the same amount of content. If not more, because the piece of lily might look gorgeous or it might flow. Yeah, he's not gorgeous. Well, I suppose that's just up to the. Is that about ground-foggy though? The thing is I've said before, like when someone is just brain dead, it takes away from like how attractive I can find them ever. And so it feels like, yeah. Yeah, there was a meme in Turkey that Erdogan was like throwing tea at people. Can you please make a shot? The point of that is that he didn't even comment on all of the stuff that just played. He just played and that was it. Just moved right along. Wow. Back to John Oliver. Particularly in unvaccinated communities. I was going to say, Skeletor is a welcome addition. I would like to ask you. I got to ask you on these topics. So all these times that he's just pieced out, has he said, like, OK, guys, B.R.B., I'm going to the washroom or just walk away? He just said he needs to piss there. Yeah, sometimes you'll say food or piss, but sometimes you'll just get up and leave. Yeah. I would like to see Skeletor's Twitch channel and see all of the insightful things you have to say. The Senate bill is ridiculously... I might be a Thompson skeleton who wants to conquer Eternia, but at least I don't steal content. At least I balance the fucking budget. All right, well, I also have to walk away, go to the washroom, so I'll see you in a minute. I might as well do that, too. Party parade! Well, I guess I can talk with Fringon and Mahal for a bit. Yeah, how are you guys doing? Oh, it's me. That's my name. Hello. How are you guys doing? Y'all copyright has no power here, he-man. I just feel like that would be a really funny, like, YouTube... That'd be a really funny Twitch channel just messing Skeletor up. If someone... This is what I think about when we talk about going back in time and just doing something with all the knowledge you have now. And then the funny ones. Like, someone knowing that if they did that as a gimmick at the beginning of Twitch, there would be a very popular channel. It probably would have been taken down for copyright at that point, but if they had it so that they were a really good impressionist and they had the animation looking really good, where it even reacts to you speaking so that it opens the mouth and stuff. And that was your gimmick. You just reacted to stuff as Skeletor. I feel like people would love it. No, that'd be cool. I don't know if you wanna get around copyright and just create a new character who is Skeletor Light. Skeletor's brother. Yeah. I'm a Bonator. Bonator, I feel like that. Or, yeah, Skeletor Frank, that could work, too. Yeah, he's just doing his thing. Just commenting. He has some views. You might not agree with all of them, but hey, that's the world. He's just being honest with himself. I do love the idea that he gets into... That's a raging racist. Yeah, and he gets into, like, the debate world. They introduce everybody. They're just like, yeah, I am Skeletor. And they're just like, oh, man, does he have to do this every time? They're like, he has really good points. He articulates them really well. So we hear him. I'm gonna tell you about my economic stimulus plans. Skeletor versus, like, Mike from PA. You have all the confidence. Mike's yelling, it's just like, you know, like yelling to be the alpha. And Skeletor's just like, are you finished? Okay. Are you done? It's not impressive when you punch a couch. Yeah. The couch cannot fight back, and also they are soft and fluffy. That is, dude, that punching the couch is like one of the funniest things. I think he was talking to Hunter Avalon at one point, he was getting mad at him, but then he was just like, whoa, dude, don't punch a couch like that. This is legacy. Well, I think the part that makes it so funny is that he tried to pretend like he didn't do it at first. Like he should have just opened it straight away. Like I didn't punch the couch because I'm mad instead of being like, no. I was very mad and I wanted to let out my aggression on an object that I knew I couldn't hurt. On an object instead of you. On a padded object that couldn't possibly hurt me. I couldn't possibly fight back. I didn't want to hurt it. I didn't want it to hurt me. I just wanted to let out some aggression. But I'm back. Hello. So the best thing about having wireless headphones is that even when I'm in the washroom, I can hear everything going on. It's quite nice. I didn't miss a single thing. You enjoy everything we had to say about Skeletor? Yes. Everyone should get wireless headphones. I cannot shell for that invention enough. They are great. All of my peripherals are wired. Sponsored by wireless headphones. I never have to worry about charges. I never have to worry about running out of battery or juice or anything like that. It's always there. It always works. And quite frankly, when I go to the bathroom, I want y'all to fuck off. I don't want to listen to you. I feel like you made the same point twice to be getting that rags, just saying. No charge. Yeah, but that's how good the point was. That's how good the point was. But rags, the problem with that shit, though, is that they're going to get all tangled and then get twisted and you'll run over to the cord with your chair. It'll wrap around you. Be like, how do I get out of this? Wrap around you. It'll just be a man. And then eventually, Debate, debate, debate. It gets frayed. It gets frayed and then you get ruined. What cheap ass? I never had that happen in my life. I never wrapped myself up in a cord. You got to go wireless, man. It's just like it's the cord over there. The future is now, old man. And rags, can you truly know that it's not good to have company while pooping if you've never tried it? I'm going to, you know what? I've never tried cocaine either, but I'm going to make a leap and say that poop time is me time. Yeah. Cocaine is also me time. Cocaine is also me time. I don't know. Well, maybe that sort of thing, you know, benefits from being around others. I'm not sure. I don't know. So anyway, hard drugs are best taken in company. Maybe if you start taking hard drugs, you should get other people into the habit so that the group experience is improved as a result. Drag everybody down with you, right? That's right. So yes, not missed much. Just watching some Hassan content. I'm back now to stare at what I'm going to pull up now. Don't worry, here comes the content. All right, thank you. Fucking hell, dude. Oh, jeez. This is sped the fuck up because this one's a long one. Is this all from the same stream? Yes. Yeah. Jesus. I know, right? Like, because I was I was like, I'm only watching the one. When can you? Like, how many coffees does he have? And if he's going for the piss, I pissed this much, man. I drink a lot of water and I pee fairly regularly as many of our audience knows. Man, it's not, it doesn't take that long to do that. Well, you don't know, he might literally be walking off to do literally fucking anything he wants to because it doesn't matter. He can do whatever he wants. You can just leave the stream. That's true. I assume that I should take a shit while I stream. It's like, oh, man, I have to leave for five minutes. Yeah, I'm the same way. I kind of want to hold it. Not to the point of excess. Dude, this is awesome. What is? Well, that's the thing. I think he said it's awesome. I'm confused. So one thing that you need to do with these is you need to have on the screen like X and then the number of how fast you're replaying. You know, you're right. I should have done that. You say this like I might do it in futures. Like, I'm hoping this is the last one. I'm hoping this is it. I don't have to walk to those fucking streams. No, you just put that in your back pocket, save it for later. Yes, you are correct. And I shall do that if for any reason this should ever happen again. Yeah, that's there we go. So at this point, it feels like Hassan is an algorithm. Yeah, it's like maybe five or ten preset responses like this is awesome. And then it just kind of sprinkles them in the right. Yeah, like calculated times, the algorithm triggers and he just says it into the mic. And then otherwise he's just kind of sitting there or sitting somewhere else. Yeah, cool, dude. Yeah, uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Oh, this is awesome. Oh, yeah. I approve of this content. So that's it for that section. We are now into the issues with his chat section. Now, from last week, it became very clear that he's very petty, like absurdly so. Like I say it about some people here and there, but this might take the cake. He really fucking hates being criticized in any way, shape or form. And so this is gonna hate this stream then, shit. This is a selection of all the ones from that stream. And then I think it's one or two that happened because he was reacting to him watching him having banned people from another stream. And so I grabs the clip and then on Twitch you can literally like take from timestamp or whatever. So I just put it in as well. Before we jump into this, just to cap off the last section, I don't understand why people eat full meals on stream unless the point of the stream is literally eating. Like maybe there's like a food contest stream or something, but people are like, yeah, you know, we're gonna be hanging out here, I'm just gonna eat. Yeah, I guess. But it's, I don't know, just seems kind of gross. Do you mean like- I rarely do this, but I just randomly do like a super long stream that wasn't planned. So like, okay, I just need to order some food. I was gonna snack on it on the side, but I still play my game or do whatever I was doing. Yeah. So like eating seems like it would get in the way of you delivering content because your mouth is busy. That's all I just said. I also don't want my microphone in front of my face while I'm trying to put some food in my face. So I just put my microphone over there. It's like, yeah, I'm sitting all alone. His mom isn't there, Dev. That's why. His mom isn't there to tell him that it's bad table manners. I was so confused because I wasn't on those last e-fabs and people met in my stream cam. So did your mom get you some nuggets? I was like, the fuck are you talking about? What's happening? When I'll stream the tabletop stuff sometimes with Arch, if I have to eat during the stream and sometimes I do, I'll mute it. But also there's five of us on there and there's no webcam. So like, you can't really tell, right? Unless I bring it up. But like, if you're gonna sit down and just eat a full meal in silence while your stream plays somebody else's video and you're just listening to it, you might as well know you wouldn't be streaming at all. Unless of course, your point is to just get Shekels, which it seems to be. Well, this is the reality, right? And this is probably the truth, but you wouldn't wanna say it because it sounds really bad. If someone goes, I'm gonna put on the BLB screen some copyright free music. I'm gonna go have food. I'll be back in 20 minutes, just 20, okay? Meanwhile, Hasan is like, but if for those 20 minutes I play someone's prepared content that's probably gonna be pretty good, like if he has a reliable creator that he cycles in, the stream not only didn't end, in a way it reached a peak while I was eating and as soon as I finished, which I enjoy, like the stream doesn't lose any numbers or momentum. It just runs right through. And I got to do what I wanted without having to do fucking anything really. Like, that's why when people are like, why not? They're like, what do you mean in the mic once every 10 minutes or so and say, yep? Or this is awesome. You might get like a little stream deck and press the button while he's eating that says those so that he can get a little covered for it. Yeah, I could totally see that's the real reason instead of him putting on the BLB screen and just being like, yeah, I'm gonna go eat my food, like a normal human being, I'll be back. The thing we suggested, the fucking obvious thing, because he said, right, in response to all this copyright stuff, he's like, people take my videos and make compilations. I don't copyright strike them and I think it's totally fine. It's like, okay, that's not a good argument, by the way, but why not play them when you go and have food? Just play them. Play the highlights of Hassan's streams on your stream while you have food. Perfect. Because you know that the audience likes you already. Yeah. And I do know that some of the streamers actually do that. Like if they have to put up a BRB screen, they actually have like a reel of highlights from previous streams. Yeah, I just... That is, I think people do already. And it's a good idea. Some of the what highlights, like, they call them that, okay? Low light. Don't ask these complicated questions. Low light compilations. So anyway, yeah, we'll come back to the whole copyright content section anyway, because he's gonna talk about it more, but this was more so to put these into specific pieces. So now you have a full understanding of what we're talking about with the whole copyright stuff. This will be his attitude to old people who don't agree with him. Let's check it out. Oh boy. Why did you say retail workers hate their lives? Yes, I said retail workers... Why did you say retail workers hate their lives? This fuck man, I worked in retail, but my life was worth living. Okay, I'm just gonna ban you, dude. Wow. I think you... Holy shit. You know what? I have shit. I just hated retail jobs, but I've never hated my life. It's not even... That's not even my issue. It's skipping all the way over to someone saying that. Like, I don't hate my life, any band them for it. Okay. You're on a Hassan stream, you're supposed to hate your life. Yeah, some break in the mold, you fuck. Yeah, sorry. Stop destroying my narrative of the constantly suffering working class. The previously subbed for four months, by the way. Bye-bye. No. Bye. My life was worth living. Okay, I'm just gonna ban you, dude. I think you need to cool off a little bit. Cool off. You know, go and... Just go and, you know, live a life worth living outside. Okay, eat grass. Holy... Eat grass. Hold on a second. Just wait, wait. What? Live... Okay, eat grass came from destiny. He wanted to change touch grass to eat grass. But live a life worth living. So is Hassan saying that a minimum wage job life is not a life worth living? I think he wanted to throw out insults. I don't think he realizes how much it pertains to this specific context that someone's like, I don't hate my life. He's like, go live a life worth living. He implies that being here, watching him on stream is not a life worth living. I mean, that would be fair. I don't, I don't. Yeah, I mean, I believe that actually. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I do too. I just don't... He's just not... I guess he's not smart enough to raise him. Yeah, I added, I added effects to indicate where he is really, his gears are turning on what insults to throw, but he needs time. Well, there's a problem among streamers. And this, this is part of the problem we're watching here, but there's a larger problem. I saw a clip of maybe a week ago, maybe two weeks ago of a reasonably good looking woman streaming on Twitch. And her chat asks her how they should get, like what do they need to do to get a girlfriend? And she says, I probably shouldn't say this, but you need to spend less time, less time and less money on, on women on Twitch. Yeah. And like, you can't give, if you're, if basically your whole thing is, you know, getting money from people who are lonely, you can't just say that. I mean, it's true. It's true. And it's good for these guys to stop watching Twitch if they're in this situation. But like, she basically said, what I'm doing is what you need to not be doing. You need to not be here. And it's true. She's, she's, and you know, good on her for actually saying the truth. Yeah, I mean, damn. But there's like, I think you can make a, a good, healthy to consume Twitch show if you're doing comedy or you're doing political analysis or you're doing something where you don't expect people to wrap their entire life up into your community. But a lot of these people don't do that. Oh, I mean, I would say that like, I'm not even sure that it's even something that you can prevent fully. There would just be people who like become, is that true? When you look like political spheres, like there are people who are just like, completely subsumed by like, internet politics and hanging around and like check that to watch people debate. And it's totally divorced from reality and they never get involved in like, actual political processes. It's just because they want to have friends. The average like IRL person is unrecognizable to them. They're like, what is this creature? They reach a point where it's like, wait a minute, you're telling me that like, there are people who are actually okay with the world that we live in and like they only want marginal and small improvements and like it's way smaller than- Wait, are you just a vast majority of people? What? Oh my God. Are you telling me that what happens on Twitter doesn't actually count? Is that what's going on here? Twitter isn't the real world. What? It's like, I don't know that it's avoidable because obviously you've got the example of like Twitch thoughts where it's like, what's pretty obvious what's going on here but like there's a lot of, where like people just want to have friends and so they'll just, and I think let's say this in like political circles where people will just warp their political positions to be friends with people because they just need friends. They need to have friends. And of course the, you know, you're gonna have that sigma male mindset where you don't get set- Grind set, that's right. The sigma male grind set where you don't need to conform to any of these politics to have friends. Exactly. Here's the thing though. So when you have a woman like the one I mentioned speaking the truth, it's a bit awkward for her because she knows what she's doing. But when you get somebody like Hassan who even though Hassan is not, and not Twitch thought, he's still exploiting in the same way, just not using sex to do it. When you get someone like Hassan who eventually has to say go outside and do something else with your life, I think the reason that he starts having those hitches there is because in his mind right now, he's understanding that what he's saying completely undermines his entire business. And so he's like, should I say this? Like, can I? He's just aware enough. There's this like in the subconscious, he probably couldn't put words to it, but there's a little part of his brain that's a little smarter than he is oddly that's trying to whisper to him. Wait, you guys- His little- You guys think he's actually criticising the person for spending too much time watching him? No, I think- Not consciously. I think what's happening, I think what's happening is he's looking at this person, he's banning him, he's trying to say get a better life, but he's also like, and he's trying to say go do something else. And then as he's saying it, it's like he's speaking as the ideas are coming to him. And as he says it, it forms in his head like, oh, he's spending a lot of time in my chat. He's giving me money. Maybe part of the reason that his life sucks is because he's here. Maybe I shouldn't say this. I think I'd make a few tweaks. I think what's happened is he's like, wait, am I not like just inadvertently insulting like everybody who's here by almost applying like- Yes, exactly, yeah. Like I'm going with the- And that's why he stops himself. I'm going with the simplest explanation, explanation, explanation, okay? I think it's literally, he has very few options for making fun of people, like very few. And one of the most common ones for Twitch streamers is go outside, lose a Get a Life. And I'm pretty sure he just railed, like he rolled them right off his tongue. He's just like, that's the things I say to someone when they annoy me. Dude, Get a Life has to be like one of the lamest insults ever. It's like, guys, none of this matters. We're all going to die and it won't matter. So like it doesn't stop telling people like what they should or shouldn't be doing to find value in their life. Because remember, it's all, doesn't mean anything at the end of the day, all right? You got to accept that part. Yeah, and I just think that he threw out those insults just because he'd throw that out for anybody. He just realized this context, there's several layers to this that are really funny. One being that this person's like, I don't hate my life. Stop trying to claim that I do. But he's like, shut up, Get a Life. It's like, oh man. Cool off. Get a Life that you can then go and hate it. It's the one that I- If you're not, go ahead. That's just the one that didn't got me. It's like, cool off. I belt ban you now. I was like, cool off for what? He just said he doesn't hate his life. It's like nothing to cool off about. Cool, calm the fuck down, Mel. Jesus. I'm gonna prescribe on to you an emotion that isn't at all warranted. Like you need to chill out. He's like, no, I'm very calm, actually. I just said I'm pretty happy with my life even though I'm working this job you hate, I guess. The insult, calm life. I'm happy with my life. Chill the fuck out, bro. A bunch of people in chat are saying that I'm giving Hassan too much credit, and maybe. But I'm verbalizing something that I don't think Hassan is actually thinking, but there's something underlying there. There's an underlying principle of, if you insult your own chat that may be heavily invested in you for not having a life, when they remedy that, you will be out of a chat. And that will. I think that's a fair analysis to make of that. It's funny to me that I crushed eight hours of his stream into 20 minutes, and we're likely going to unpack this 20 minutes back out in too many hours. It's just like how content creation works, I guess. We'll call it a suntent. A suntent, oh my God. Boy. Fit. You know, go and, just go and live a life worth living outside, okay? Eat grass, Tomass. Is this the idea that someone had the audacity to say they didn't hate their life in a Hassan? That's a fucking weird fucking scene to look at and listen to. Yeah, yeah, this is what I mean. And we're just, we're just through the looking glass, okay? It's gonna get way worse than this. I just like, I don't know if that guy deserved a band, to be honest. Do you want one too, dude? Here you go. 22 months. Jesus Christ. 22 months. Don't show kindness. Don't show kindness to those that the party's looking down on. That is verboten, my dude. Now, this is what some might call a wake-up call when you get banned after 22 months of support. I literally say. I don't think that he deserved a band. You're banned. You are fraternizing. You are sympathizing with the enemy. Well, do you know the wake-up call? I will play the most generous devil's advocate here that I can. We'll just remember. I'll be excited to hear this. Yeah, we're both happy to slay a devil, so. Because I've had to deal with this myself a couple of times. Just because you are a heavy donator in somebody's community doesn't necessarily mean that you're not going to get banned if you break something really bad. Irrelevant. Yeah, it's not the wrong point. That's the best I can do. Because there are people who have given me subs for like three, four years, and I've had to ban them because they've done something out of rage. This is like, sorry, man. No, true. Completely agreed. Of course, but they didn't do anything out of rage. Exactly, yeah. You were doing this. Something that I find super interesting is in the totality of EFAP's history, people have only ever been banned for spamming, for breaking TOS, and for, I guess, like, I was about to say another form of spamming. Basically just, they ask a question they really want answered and they just do it for every column. And then the mods notice and they're like, please stop, that sort of thing. We've never banned somebody because they annoyed us or were critical of us. Because they were happy with their lives. We usually fight chat quite a lot. We like to grab things from chat and fight with it as a form of just like, you know, back and forth. This, where someone is just like, wait, maybe you should, maybe you should reconsider the action you just took, bad. It's like, huh. It's like, hey, I like my life, Gulag. So, oh, come on, Gulag, you wanna test me? Don't test me, all right? Who else wants to go to the Gulag? That's what I thought, you know? All right, now let's watch more content. Hold on, hold on. I'll be right back. Hang on, yeah. I'm gonna go on holiday. Just leave the stream on, it's fine. I feel my least gracious after a hearty shit, so you better watch yourselves. God, just the lack of it. Have fun with that, okay? Get fucked. Man. Get fucked, wow. I feel like that's another one of those things of just, man, top tier response to get fucked and then pause and then get absolutely fucked. No, you know, here's the roof sad part. The person who just got banned probably had like a, they were probably very upset. Even though at this point. Yeah, I would be really upset if I, like that's the thing we talk about. He was a patron or whatever it is on Twitch. 22 months of support. For 22 months, that's basically two years. For two years, you support someone financially and with your time. I probably watch the streams every day. You know, regularly. I wanna make sure we make clear here because this is why Dev was probably prompted to say what he said. It's not about money buys you immunity, it's proof this person has good faith toward you. And so to assume the reverse is really fucking rude. And to just immediately just be like, now fuck you, you said that was a little too mean. See your 22 months, fuck you, get fucked. And then the community you thought you were a part of the laughing at you, man. Yeah, they laugh more the more you've supported them. You talked about this with Snafu. Yeah, we talked about this with Snafu. Like these, all the people that are around you. You thought everyone around you. Your comrades in arms, right? Your fellow workers of the whatever you wanna imagine yourself, right? Your allies, they will turn on you in a fucking heartbeat. They'll have a fuck about you. They'll give a shit. They're trained to love it, to support it. Like it's- Yeah, it is the mob mentality, encouraged. Dude, I probably cried. What is a really bad environment? I legit wouldn't blame them. I wouldn't blame them at all. It's pretty emotionally, it's a pretty big emotional reckoning. Especially in the world of like the parasocial relationship stuff is real and it's strong. And we were just talking about how like some people have replaced their social lives with this stuff. So yeah, you can really, and this is the thing, we've hit people's feelings or like regularly on the regular, as I was gonna say, but like it's a matter of, you're like ripping these people's hearts out for doing the right thing. It's like, why? Look, you can see the slush act in this hot Birkenhof and now it's like, yeah. See, I think you can at least avoid or maybe minimize some of this stuff. If you foster a community that is not afraid to disagree with you, because if it's all a bunch of yes men and then you get banned from that, you're like, what did I do wrong? But as you guys, your chat goes against you all the time, my chat goes against me all the time. If you can foster a community where you can, you can actually be a dissenter and not just get thrown out, then I think it feels more fair when the community does actually see somebody get thrown out. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You have to, when the community can recognize, oh, the person who got banned, they actually did something that was ban worthy and I don't have to worry about that because there's a clear line. I know what the stakes are. I know where the, like I know what the law is and I know not to break it. Oh well. Oh well, two different worlds. Do you want one too, dude? Here you go, 22 months subscriber. So he's watching Destiny Watch that clip just so you understand what's happening here. And now we're watching him watch Destiny Watch it. Yes. Well, yeah, we're just adding in. It's like a delicious cake in theory where every layer is a new flavor to be savored and enjoyed. And we get to the Hassan layers, you're like, it doesn't really taste like anything. Hassan is like a plate though. He's not even like the cake. He's just a plate. So I guarantee you at some point, Hassan's gonna watch this and he's gonna watch us watching this and he's gonna be listening to us talk about him watching us. I'm gonna. And that's what it's gonna be. Double down what I said last week. I think he would avoid this. This is not useful for him at all in any way. Well, just in case, just in case, Hassan's chat, get the fuck out while you still can. Just in case you're watching this through him, just leave right now, just go, okay? Go into some vegetation or whatever the thing is, just get out. You don't want to fight ZFAP chat. They are the veterans, not just of the Korean War, right? All wars, Star Wars. They have all the hats. They have Civil War hats. That's amazing. Just look at this for a second. So your chat is on screen and Hassan's chat and Destiny's chat, and then Hassan's other chat. And it's just everyone's here right now. Yeah, we're all here. Let me set up my stream and look at this while we're looking at this, so we have more chats and streams to look at. Everybody's here. Do you want one too, dude? Here you go, 22 month subscriber. Have fun with that, okay? Oh, damn, he's gone to the evil side. I've been doing this for a very long time. Like, I've never stopped doing this. I've never stopped doing this. Why do people go to that argument? I've been doing this forever. It's like... It's not a good argument. Stop it. Why is it? It just keeps on murdering, what? I could change the Obama years, man. Damn. It's not my first concentration camp, guys. She's calmed down. It's like a 17 over there. Like what? Oh, suddenly it's not okay. Fucking hell. I know, you guys. I always fucking... I always ban long-term community members. He's like humble bragging. I always do. Excellent. Awesome. I feel like this is a good one. This is a good one to fucking... This is a good one. 28 months, dude. There you go. Hey, what's up, dude? Hey, what's up? You want that? There you go. Get fucked. The feedback loop. I'm sorry. Did you get banned? Months just like that. Just like that. Gonzo. He's like having fun with it now. Not that he didn't before, but now he's like, this is entertaining, I guess. I don't think it was about being fun before for him. I think he felt it was like an obligation. I have to do this. You have to be gone. I have to get rid of you. He didn't actually give it that much thought at all. You've got to go. You went against the Hassan. You went against the piker. So you're done. You're finished. This is what has to be done. It's almost like he doesn't even, I bet he would say it's almost not even up to him really. If this were like eight years ago or 10 years ago, I would say that this is basically what killed a lot of content creators is when they turned on their own communities. That is a big part of why Spoonie died, for example. A big part of why a lot of YouTubers from like 2010, 2012 died. They eventually turned on their own communities. But nowadays, in 2021, and with how big some Twitch streamers get, they get like 10,000 viewers a stream or 12,000 viewers a stream, I'm not sure if attacking your own community consistently is enough to kill a career. Well, I was going to say, Spoonie is an example because his community was the only thing that kept him going long after he stopped making content. Yeah. And just agreeing with him constantly. They loved him and they were desperate for him to come back. And some of them still are, you know? Yeah, they're still going. But the thing is, like, I think Hassan could, at this point, he's big enough he could actively attack his own viewers and still keep going. Like, I don't think this kind of thing will stop him. Yeah, it helps that you have a community that's so fucking brain dead that you see all this stuff. He's trained the brats. He's trained them that way. Yeah, if you're a Hassan loyalist for whatever reason, your mind is already screwed up. There's already something wrong with you. So you're not dealing with normal, rational people. And yeah, I think it's not to be too silly with the references here. It's like he's pulled someone out of the crowd and sacrificed some of the rest of the crowd. They're like, that'll never be me. Woo! I'm not even going to be that one. Yeah, yeah, kind of. And I was like, aha, look at that guy. And they're not thinking that it's them on the next stream, you know? Yeah. It's not me. It's not my blood. So fuck it. It's fine. In fact, this is good stuff. Or even worse. I'm not the one down there in the Colosseum. Or even worse, that guy deserved it. Yeah. You don't know what for, but he did. How dare he disagree? Not even disagree imply that Hassan might have done something wrong, maybe. Not even stating that he did. Oof. Even that the implication that Hassan isn't free of sin is, oh, that's enough to get you excommunicated. Let me, let me pet you real quick. He's like toying with the person. He's banned. He's like, aha, are you so sad? Also, did you add the music or is that Hassan? No, that's Hassan. He puts it on himself. Oh, so he put on the sigma male music. Yeah. During this part. Yeah. All right. Are you sad? I mean, when you play the music for yourself, of course, that's just the first sign of a pure sigma male, right? That's how it works. You can no longer see the fucking chat, dude. Oh, no. It comes across really weird, right? Like it's just like, man, these people. It comes across as a bad person. These people are here to support your fucking content, mate. And you're like, oh, look at you. So sad you can't be here. It's like, they're here for you. What are you? Yeah. Yeah. She's very petty, you know? Very petty. Absolutely. Hassan is just a perfect example of who not to be. Hell, my goddamn frame. Once again, bitch. You're annoying. Please consider fix that doesn't kill your back. Wait, can, can, can he call people a bitch? Is that not a sexist insult? Is he allowed to call people a bitch? They're allowed on that one for now. We'll see if time goes on. Oh, okay. We'll see, right? We'll see. Yeah. So the AC is super annoying, which by the way, I regularly get told by EFF chat that they can hear my fat in the background. And every time I'm like, I'm so sorry, but I'll melt without it. I'll do the best I can. Let's see his response. This is a good back. You shutting the fuck up for an entire week. How about that? I find it incredibly strange. Did he read that wrong? Did he read that wrong? I don't think so. He can't read. Oh, okay. I find it. Let's go back a bit. I think you kind of, I think you read that wrong. All right. My back. Fix that doesn't kill my back. Not his bag. Fix that doesn't kill my back. Well, if the guy, if the person you read said your, then it's fair enough to switch. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, you're good. Fuck up for an entire week. How about that? I find it incredibly strange. Okay. That people think that being people think to be able to chat in here or having access to the streamer 24 seven while the content is being provided. Oh, access to me. A son access to the streamer. Well, he said while the content is being produced. He said provided, but still provided. That's even worse. Provided. What is he doing? He's going through a YouTube list. Jesus Christ. Is a just a hotline for complaints. So he's, he's annoying. This chat would complain. It's like, okay. This is someone else, by the way. It was like, just like, you could, you could, you could argue that they're spamming. But the thing is, if they believe that this is a problem he's unaware of, they will obviously spam it until he acknowledges it. Right. There's an audio issue in your background. Check your noise gate. Brought time. Check your noise gate. Yeah. Like, I assume that we're all going to be on the same page here. If there was an audio issue with a stream we were on that we didn't know about, you'd want chat to tell you. Yeah. One of the main reasons I keep my own chat. I just keep an eye on how everyone's levels are and what everyone's saying. I can't hear the guest or the guest is too loud or there's not a good balance. You want, you want to be able to be here. If there's an audio issue or if there's a green screen issue or like anything really just, I want to know. Yeah. It does sound a mess though. Windows updates happen that they follow your audio and you just, you're not aware of. I remember why I made this edit. Watch what happens. It does sound a mess though. Okay. Clip it and send it to me. I will listen to it. So, first guy got banned. Then the second guy was like, all right, it might be fair then. Listen, listen. The other one get unbanned at least. I didn't see him unbanned that guy, I know. Well, so here's the opinion. So he just stayed banned even though he changed his opinion on the, on the situation. Yeah. What a lot of people don't, in his chat, what a lot of people don't realize is that back in Korea, right? When we were there in the mud and the snow fighting the filthy fucking commies in Korea, right? We, the least of our problems when we were in the war in Korea where we were because we were veterans of the war in Korea, the least of our problems was air conditioning noise. We would have killed to have a loud air conditioner in Korea. The war in which we fought in. Veterans that we are. Mm-hmm. So. Carry on. Matt. Reamer. Yeah, I am fucking mad here. Take a week off. Shit. Dude. Imagine I would ban every time someone is a bitch to me in my stream. I had an empty stream. It's so petty. It's unbelievably petty. He cannot take it. It's impossible. He just has. Completely. Oh, he's melting down. Don't you think you went a little hard? You too, dude. Here you go. 28 months. Driver. Fuck. Oh. You pissed him off. You come in here in like 20 minute increments and you're like, well, I don't understand. Were you being a little too hard? It's like, dude, literally from this morning, like since I started, I turned off the audio, the noise gate and like thousands of people have fucking complained the entire day, dude. Turn it back on. You idiot. Can you imagine having? Do you imagine having to put up with that? You know, people in chat complaining about something. Oh, I don't know how he does it. It's like in his brain. I'm trying to imagine myself in his place, which is normally the bathroom. But for the sake of this, we'll say he's in front of the camera. Being in his place and just like the brain. Okay. So his brain receives the information through the chat that a lot of people are concerned about the noise, right? And so his brain thinks in response to that. All right. What I need to say is. I turned off the noise gate. That's why everyone's complaining. Period. Move on to the next thing. But like it's actually infuriated him to the point where he's starting to bad people who say anything about it. It's like, dude. Yeah. And absolutely he's like, oh yeah, I turned off the noise gate. Which is obviously the problem. Why? Yeah. Why did you do that? Why did you drop the noise gate? If I remember from his screen. I'm aware of it. Why are you going ahead and ban all these people and be mad about it? Even though you know you fucking turned off the noise gate. So the normal response is to, oh, I didn't know it would have been that much of an issue. I'll go ahead and I'll turn it back on. Ah, well, see, that's the mistake you made. Because in the beginning of the stream, he says, I've turned off the noise gate because I want to be able to move away like this and still be able to be heard. If I turn on the noise gate, it would cut out. I didn't want to simulate that because he would have been confused. So he had to leave it off so that he could do whatever he wanted when talking. And so people were like, please turn it back on. He's like, no, I want freedom. And so now he's surprised that people keep arriving to his stream being like, dude, there's weird noise coming from your microphone. And he's like, shut up. I can't take every fucking 20 minutes someone coming. How lucky of him to have it only like once per 20 minutes. Like when he's got the tens of thousands of people pouring in, like, God, you talk about first world problems. This is just, this is just crust of the earth. We're right at the core. This is nothing. First world problem. Not even that your AC is too loud, right? We have to go deeper. Other people mildly, not even complaining, people letting you know on your stream that is your job in your house, in your air-conditioned room, those people telling you that they think the AC is a bit too loud. It's even worse of a first world problem. This is like seven, this is like seven layers of a first world problem. Yeah, it's pretty amazing that he gets this angry over an issue like that. It's like, oh man, I just want to, and he's the one who condescends to people who are like, why are you so angry? Stop banning people. He's like, oh, you upset? Like, dude, I just don't think you ever like to stand up with this, please. So you want to get banned slice, dude? Pepelos, stolen content, Keg W. Dude, my content is just making fun of dumb idiots like you and then banning you. No, not really. Okay. Well, down they go. When will you learn? Chatters never learn, dude. Chatters think like, dude, oh my god, you're going to get so sued. 14-year-old Andy's like, hmm, I'm going to get you so sued. Yeah, okay, dude, make some fucking content first. All right? Make some fucking content. Make some fucking content on the screen first. It's incredible to hear. He made any content yet. Not yet, no. He's been eating and walking away and like banning. Has he ever done like a scripted video? In the non-stream? He used to, like, get him every once in a while, but he stopped because this was way easier. Yeah, I love you. I love you all have gone that route where, like, they used to do, like, really researched, well-prepared, you know, scripted content and now everyone's a streamer. Well, it's funny. I, along with rags and free, we got that thrown on us quite a bit. But, like, videos are still coming out. Everyone, no one is free of sin. Well, I do both. It'll be that Jack Chick comic where I'm Christ and I'm just like, none of you are free of sin. Because he told the truth. Exactly. Yeah. That'll be fun. We should go over some Jack Chick cartoons. That'll be fun. I feel like it's totally fine to do whatever you want, be it streams, prepared content, both. But, um, I just, I find it amusing that Hassan of all people, to this person you just banned, is like, go make some content. Yeah. Okey-dokey. Dude, oh my god, you're gonna get so sued. 14-year-old Andy's like, hmm, I'm gonna get you so sued. Yeah, okay, dude. Make some fucking content first, alright? Come, baby. Anyway, copies of this. Um, so, yeah. Now we're moving on to a different section. We'll play it first so you understand probably what point I'm gonna be making you. Sick, though. You guys should subscribe to him. Alright, let's watch Stephen Crowder's nightmare, dude. This is gonna be- No, no, just go with it for a second. You'll understand. Awesome. I think I already know what's- This is Amon Animations. He made one of me as well, which is crazy if you guys have seen that. I don't know if you have or not, but I'm willing to bet that this is gonna be an insane fucking video. Vic Berger is the perfect person to do this. Uh, to-to absolutely just come through these fools. Um. Come through? We have so much to watch today. But, obviously, I love this one. I mean, he's so good. And that's pretty much it for that. That's all the ones I found on that stream. Can you- can you spot- Yeah. What's happening here? He's just watching and still shit? He's giving credit. He's giving credit. The thing that he just fucking refused outright to do for Jay. Mm-hmm. I don't know why. Like, what? He's willing to credit all of these people, but he absolutely refused for Jay. And it- by the way, someone just posted in chat, we have so much content to watch today. It's like, yeah, that sums up his fucking channel, doesn't it? We have so much to watch. I have so many poops I need to take. I remember- You know what I do when I want to watch a YouTube video? I go watch it. What do you do? I don't go wait for a streamer to watch it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Explain this. Explain how this works. Well, sometimes I'll sit at my desk and maybe I'll have some food. Oh, wait, let me tell you. I'll put it on a YouTube video. Some noggy. But I don't have my camera or my mic on. Well, talk slower. I'm trying to write this all down so I know how. Yeah. I'm trying to take some notes here. What do your eyes do? I don't get it. In general, like react content seems to be completely worthless unless you're adding something to it. And the only exception I would make for this is video games because playing video games inherently makes it a different play through than your play through if that makes sense. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. So it just seems like if you want to just waste time and watch your life slowly take away, tune into Asan's channel. Asan's life slowly take away and know that you are bound for the oblivion together as comrades until he bans you in them. He like desperately tries to get as many videos watched as possible. Meanwhile, on EFAP we're like 24 hours, 31 hour stream. We only got seven videos covered. I'm afraid it's the best we could do, guys. Videos today. Damn. Unfortunately, we have things to say. Yeah. Listen, guys, guys, guys, if you want to expedite EFAP, just like just be like, yeah. And there's your can just do that. Everyone needs to cook the nuggies. You'll get this done so quick. Yeah. True. True. Yeah. This is awesome. Anyway. Yeah. Let me look for someone in chat to ban. True. Could it be you? So, yeah, I have said before, if he was to watch a whole video from someone, especially with their permission, and then just said this is who they are, where they'll find them. I wouldn't have any problem with any of this. Should be like, yeah, it's fine. And for some reason, he will do it with certain people, but there are certain people he will absolutely not do it with. And this is not the difference between, like, once he's complimenting and once he's criticizing. This is literally just seems to be run of the mill. Like, it could be anything. I mean, he's all over the place. Who knows? He'll just throw out a compliment or not. Incredible. So incredibly talented. This is it. That's it. That's it. This is the greatest work of all time. This is a permanent conservative L compilation of a bunch of sad freaks who basically bet the horse and the house. Sorry. Bet the house on a horse. Isn't funny if you're an adult. Yeah. Actually, I actually haven't heard that saying before. Bet the house on a horse. At least you can follow it. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know the whole that one of my dad once said he because, you know, he's old old and sagacious as they, they, they can be is never bet on. I don't know. I forget. I shouldn't have said anything. I should have prepared in advance. You should have brought a chair. I should have brought a chair. Somebody, somebody edit in a little. A little, a little loading symbol above rags. I want that to be the stream clip. It was something along the lines of never bet on horses and. I forget. That's the thing. I forget. But it was something similar. It's the follies of gambling on animals and things that are unpredictable things that make safe bets. I think is the is the is the proverb point. Oh, did you see the chat is saying the chat is saying rags went full Hassan. Oh, no, I'm not getting the gun to Hassan. I don't even know if I'm capable of that. My mind might have a fail safe. Like how a computer shuts down if it gets too much electricity or something. And so it's like, oh, we better shut down. Something bad happens. I think my brain might have something similar to that where if I try to go full Hassan, big H and everything, it just says no nap time. He's clearly operating on faulty mechanics. You need to go to sleep. We need to restart sleep for eight hours. So we'll try again later. We need to install some updates. I heard in the Olympics there was someone, some, some woman, some equestrian and she. Like she was supposed to be like the favorite to win and the horse just wouldn't jump or something like that. Because horses are dumb. So and she was like in tears because the horse just wouldn't fucking jump. I was like, man, that must suck so much to do all that training. I tried to combine training and practice. I almost had practice. All that training and practice to get to the Olympics and be that favored. And then you get to the event and you're ready. And the horse is just like, no, I'm just not going to. So there. All right, carry on. Really mean much, you know. Oh, wait, let me rewind him. He's watching. He's watching something. And one of his people in chat says. They're like, not funny. I think that's something. Yeah, I mean, okay. So what there's like, I feel like there's an endless supply of 12 year olds on the internet. So it kind of doesn't matter. Like I appeal to adults. It doesn't really mean much, you know. I like it. This one was the first one. It was like an actual, like an actual thing was directed at him that I could see as an insult. And he's like, you know, whatever. What are your standards? What are your standards with this? Person in chat was making fun of the subject, which is this guy here because he's doing some stuff. Then they were just like, well, I can't. I don't find him funny. I think a son said he was funny. And then they said it only in like non adult would find him funny. Then he's like, there's kids everywhere. So whatever I'm appealing to adults, which. Does he? I don't. I feel like you have to prove that. He appeals to. I don't even know if I want to go into that. What does a son piker appeal to person wise? I'll do like people who have like 16 years old. He, him, Marxist, Leninist in their Twitter bio. Yeah. Idiots, basically. I low key think that I'm going to fucking to my own horn here. This is the section that begins though. That was just crap, you know, all that stuff. I was just you getting a taste. So the way this happened is he was watching a video by someone he's watched on his channel many times and probably left the seat for and they are, they are popping off coffee zilla. I'm not familiar with this stuff. I think they're covering like a lot of the crypto stuff. Yeah. And stuff. And so a lot of people like to watch them recently. Appreciate the content is good stuff. And as you can see, Hasan is about to give his reasoning for why he believes coffee zilla is popping off. And that creates a conversation. I low key think that. I'm going to fucking to my own horn here. I think that no. Hold on. Hold on. I am contractually obligated by the rules of my own channel. Now that a horn has been mentioned. Okay. We can do anything. You can continue. What what happened? No, no, no, no. Explain what happened? Nothing happens. I couldn't hear. We couldn't hear anything. Oh, you didn't hear? No. I will do it closer to the mic. Discord is good noise cancellation. I'm sorry. Oh, no, no. I have a horn that I honk whenever I whenever a horn comes up to zoo. No, a horn like an actual horn. Oh, like a like a horn or. You guys can't you guys can't hear me honking the horn. Can you hear it now? Hear it now. Yeah, something. It's not that. Oh my goodness. How embarrassing. No. Yeah. I don't have a noise gate or a or something. We don't hear your idea. Well, no, Discord has an automatic one now. That's amazing. It's it even stopped. I regularly try to be up to mail and it doesn't let me. If I whistle into the microphone, it doesn't pick up. That's why everyone you haven't heard me whistling in ages. I still do. It's just that it doesn't. I think RTX. It is like, no, that's not. That's not coming through. Yeah. Yeah, I will see if I can change something in my settings. You can push to talk. I always honk the horn here. I've turned it down to completely on. Can you hear it now? It was like a tiny. It was like a mosquito flew across the desk, but sort of far away. It sounded like a dying horn. Man. Discord would be like a. Like a horn horn. What kind of bike horn actually? Oh, like a clown horn. Yeah, I have a clown horn. I'm excited to hear the horn. There's a horn or there's a clown world thing on my channel. I just honk it. I know I want to hear the horn, but I'm not hearing. I kind of want to hear the horn. Yeah. Oh, hell. Do you need it? Maybe as you're talking, you honk it so that the. The. I tried that. I tried that last time and it's. Half came through. Is your stream here? I guess you don't use discord. Well, I'm just hanging out with you guys. I was going to say the reason why. When you use it for your streams. It would come through for a stream because it's not through. Yeah. Yeah. It's going just to my OBS. Yeah. That's what I was. Yeah. Trying to see here, but. Huh. Well, I, I, I can appreciate the. The idea. The, the, the quirk I do. I do like wonderful. I love it. Um, anyway, back to Hassan's horn. I'm going to fucking to my own horn here. I think that the reason why these, the reason why coffee zeal is like exploding is because one, he's doing great content. Obviously. But I also kind of feel like. Which streamers watching like every two shimmer washes videos. You don't promote. I'm going to stop. Cause I've been subscribed to coffee zeal for like several months before all of this sudden explosion. It's just being in the algorithm. That's like the big really relevant things that have been going on. Yeah. You can argue that the streamer watching it is just a result of everybody watching it anyway. I would say so. I would honestly, I would say that that is more believable to me than like, Oh, thanks Hassan. It was Hassan that did it. That just doesn't, that doesn't. I don't, I don't buy that. I think it's just a matter of like the algorithm picked up on it. Yeah. Um, but the content itself is entertaining as well. Yeah. I'm sure it's well researched. Right. It's part of why it's like super well raised. Yeah. Pretty impressive. Um, yeah. Um, but of course someone in his chat, a someone with, I guess a free thinking mind, a fool. You might even say that here decided to speak up in terms of what he's just asserted which streamers watching like every two shimmer washes videos. You don't promote viewership as much as you think literally every single fucking YouTuber says that when Twitch streamers watch them, they fucking spike. They can note it. No, wait, you have to wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You have to appreciate that he's saying this infuriated at Jay. That's what's in his head right now. He's fucking pissed and that's about to become very clear. He's angry that Jay among other people, including myself have perpetuated this idea that Twitch streamers do not increase and promote YouTubers because that was the whole fucking reason he was able to get away with it. If you destroy that idea, he starts to lose all of his coverage. So he's pissed off. He didn't have to respond to that chatter because he's left it. So people in your chat said to record the honk. So I did. I put it in the chat if you want to play it. I would love to. Let me, let me click. I don't even, I don't even know if that is not a horn really. Yeah. It's funny. It's a really cute horn. That's a very, it's like a little clown horn. Yeah. Okay. It's like a midget clown horn. It's a gnome clown. It's like a clown world. That's a clown car's honk. Whenever the clown car is like, you need to move. You know, I'm trying to park here. They do that. And that's what it sounds like. Whenever there's like a clown world thing on my channel, I'll honk the horn. That's just part of my thing. Perfect. I love it. It's like one of my people as they, as they bite down on a toy to stimulate the death screams of a wounded animal. There are dogs somewhere right now going crazy. Oh, yes. Yeah. I mean, I thought it was all right myself, but yeah. Kapla. YouTuber says that when Twitch streamers watch them, they fucking spike. They see a noticeable spike in their subscribers and a noticeable spike in their view count. I don't know. Like I still think that that's kind of true because when destiny watched my video, I got like a thousand subs in a day. There's something to this. There's like multiple things that we need to address. We went over it all last week, but we could do it again. It's possible. It doesn't matter. It's a principle of like, you can't do this. You can't just watch some of these comments without their permission. It doesn't matter whether they get 1,000 views or like 100,000 extra views or a million extra views. Like fundamentally, there is an issue here. But secondly, it doesn't cause a big spike. It just doesn't. At least in Jay's case, anyway. So that's why I showed those clips earlier, right? If on eFap, we cover someone's video in full screen, we watch it all and go, oh, it's neat. Move on. I said last week, people in chat will be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who is the channel? Who is that? Hello? What's going on? Who is the channel? What's the name of the video? If, however, we go, this person's name is this. The channel they run is this. This is the link. It's in the description. It's in the chat. They do all kinds of videos. This is the subjects they cover. I'm subscribed. I love this stuff. I do that. This is the prior one. Very different results. And so when you take to a sound to be like, the problem here is blah, blah, blah, blah. And then he's like, no, the spikes. So Jay didn't really get a spike from what he did. And don't worry, I have intercut so that we didn't have to. Jay's response to this from Jay's stream that he did when this initially happened. So you'll be able to see Jay's spike. Don't worry about that. This video will blow up too because it's about Aiden Ross. Why? Why are you? Why are you random chatter who does not understand analytics or content creation or any? So the sound talking about someone who doesn't understand analytics or content creation is fucking rich as hell. All we ever wanted, everyone here, was to just credit Jay. That was it. But now it's unlocked all these retarded arguments and he's just frustrated that it's become an acknowledged truth that you don't spike everyone you watch. But, as Ringerie pointed out, it's not actually relevant. It's not the point. Anything for that fucking... Sitting here and acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about because you watched one YouTuber who was butt-hurt that I didn't react hard enough to their fucking YouTube video even though that very same fucking YouTuber on Ironically literally said, Oh my God, who's watching my YouTube video now and showed that it was like leading to more fucking viewership. So yeah, that sounds very pissed at Jay. And just summarize the situation as Jay was really mad even though Jay got a whole bunch of viewers. Wow. Jay admitted it himself. Ungrateful piece of shit. Well, here we go. Oh, 200 views for a YouTuber who was doing this professionally. That's literally nothing. Not literally nothing. That's figuratively nothing. That is very insubstantial to them and there was a very good chance that they could have not noticed this if it wasn't all in the same hour, right? Or even if it was. Right before they fucking made it their... The average of my videos is like around 50K views over the course of like a couple days. That's normal. I wouldn't notice a 200-view bump, but I do notice the Destiny bump, but Destiny also commented on the video. Well, I was about to ask, did Destiny's fans know that you made the video? Yes. Well, there you go. That's already a step above what Hassad does with a lot of people. Yes. And Destiny also replied to each point. Yeah. He did close it very quickly because of the troll at the end, but the point is that I did actually get a bump from it because basically his fans had been bothering him for about two days and mentioning my name every time, so it kind of got out there, yeah. Yeah. And I think that there's so many ways to handle it that are so perfectly fine. He just summarized the situation with Jay. He's complaining that I gave him views. It's like, okay, so apparently you didn't absorb anything. From Jay or anyone for that matter. Hassan doesn't have a problem. I think the issue with Hassan, the issue, I say, one of the basal issues with Hassan's stupidity is that he doesn't run the race. He doesn't know how to get to the race or understand what it is. It's almost like he's not playing the game. He doesn't even know how to play the game. You are not even getting to him. He doesn't know what the issue is. He doesn't know how to interact with it or his brain doesn't understand how it needs to respond to the game itself or to the argument itself. Jay offered a conversation. That would be the worst fucking thing for Hassan because he doesn't even understand the situation, as you said. If you walk in, you'd probably be like, so what's your issue, dude? Like, what? You've got views. What? And then Jay would be like, do you actually know what I've said in response to this? And then Hassan would be like, you're complaining that whatever, that I don't... What? He would just be like, oh my god, this is so embarrassing. And I think he knows that. I think he's aware, so he's just like, there'll be a nightmare. I guess that's... If you're that so aware, do you not introspect at that point? Nope. I guess not. Before they fucking made it their mission to just make content for the next month or so, with other YouTubers getting together and should be like, oh my god. They fucking made it their mission to just make content for the next month or so. Getting together and should be like, one. Sorry, let me just jump in here before we get to him talking about eFap. This is something that I've noticed too. If a streamer like Hassan, or in my case it was Vosh, but you know the kind of guy I'm talking about, if you react to their content, whether you react to it on a stream or you make a video about it or whatever, and they don't really have much to say about it or they don't want it to take the time to watch it, they will just say that you are trying to farm them for views. It's kind of funny because like, Vosh claimed this about me, I think I've made two videos overall criticizing him, and now he and all of his fans are saying that I'm constantly trying to make dozens of Vosh videos that don't exist, and how I'm just farming views, but actually my Vosh videos don't get that many more views than my regular videos. They get like 10 to 20,000 views above average, which is not nothing, but it's not like I'm blowing up because of it, you know? Well, this is the... So look, if ever you're in trouble, you smash the emergency kit and it reads, does this person have more subscribers than you? If yes, bully. If no, clout chaser. And you've got it. That's your main defenses when you've got no argument. Simple as that. That also kind of ties into like, why are you platforming this guy? Oh, they do that too, yeah. He's really... Oh, God, hold on. Oh, no. He's horn. He's horn. Yeah, as people pointed out, he's just read out every frame of pause. We've got Hasan reading that out. We can put that on intros now. Every frame of pause. And we'll just say it's endorsed by Hasan. Okay, check this. I actually got them... I got somebody from this crowd. You know, the bread tube crowd straight up saying that it is all about numbers. They say, as long as your audience is noticeably smaller than theirs, you can only gain from the interaction. You're not giving them attention. They're giving you attention. The problem arises when you platform them and neither Vosh nor the serfs do this. And I'm just like, wow, it's just all a numbers game to you. There's no actual interest in discussion or ideas. It's just the numbers. That doesn't surprise me at all. So you might think, I could see them justifying it from a perspective of the overall war. We need to win this. Providing any kind of benefit to the opposition when we know that we are right and they're wrong is a huge mistake. Meanwhile, a lot of people will rather be like, wait, I'm wrong on this? Nah, I think I'm right on this. Let's have a conversation. Crazy, I know. This is where you get... Again, people like Vosh who say stuff like, okay, as long as my side wins and it's like, Jesus. Vosh, as me and Fringy covered on Stitch and Adam's stream, he's said some incredible things in terms of your integrity as a content creator slash activist slash... Yeah, person. It's surprising. Well, surprising for a lot of people, some people think it's just completely normal. I just like, god damn, it's sad, I guess, is probably the word I put it. Um, but yeah, we'll roll him back just a little bit. Just like, make content for the next month or so, you're getting together and you'll be like, oh my god. The other day, the every frame of pause guys literally spent four hours bitching about the react stuff, they just suck my cock. I'll never watch their dog shit fucking content. Okay? You sound upset. You sound really upset. He has no idea. He has no idea what we do. Or what we do. If they responded to you negatively, it must be dog shit content. It must be terrible. Hassan, you're gonna be fine, okay? You're gonna be fine. I guess it just rings hollow, I guess. Just considering that Why don't you guys invite Hassan on? Invite him onto the show. So the only reason I wouldn't have is because I don't believe in a million universes he would ever come on but he's absolutely welcome to come on. I would happily organize it. So if for some reason Hassan's like, yeah, I'll go on there and I'll tell those guys what for. You do it? Oh, absolutely. You kid him? I would even be like guys, don't all talk at once and make sure you have simple sentences. We've got to really let him get him back in his element and don't be too hard rags. Don't go beyond basic colors in terms of concepts or something, I just don't want to hit him. Yeah, shapes and colors really simple ones five sides and below and we've got to really rein this in so he can keep up Hassan is such a simpleton we've got to really watch what we're doing. Well, this is what I mean, like he's so angry at us and just like you have no idea what I could actually know that any of this is true a chatterer has just said it before he knows it could have been a four-hour stream defending him we could have been like, no, he has a point but, uh, no, he's yeah, he's pissed, he's like, nah, not having it I think a YouTuber's fucking understand is that like this actually fucking helps it's like a back and forth ecosystem I can't wait now that I fucking mentioned them I'm sure What do you, what do YouTubers need to understand it's a back and forth system me siphoning off all of your hard work to earn money helps you so shut the fuck up Yeah, shut the fuck up Can't you see I'm helping you Well, this is the reason why when I saw this I was like we absolutely have to respond again because like he wants you to stop talking about this because it's gonna fuck up his living not just the money but the the element of how lazy the content creation is it fucks it up if people start thinking of stealing stuff See, Hassan the communist is literally extracting capital from these these lower level YouTubers well replaced YouTubers with workers Yeah, we haven't even gotten in much to the whole how richly ironic this is doubly so coming from this guy I wonder how worthwhile that even is with someone like Hassan where he doesn't I don't even think he knows what he fights for like I don't think he's understood it at all He walked outside every day and just marvel that there's weather or something he'll stare in awe at the flushing action of a toilet it is pretty cool it is pretty cool it's very mesmerizing magic first there's poop and then I can't wait now that I fucking mention them I'm sure they'll like literally do another analysis on this dude every time I pause something correct for the first time in his life so analysis is a big word nice that's a big one so he couldn't spell it but he's heard it so I've never understood this attitude will you say shut the fuck up about them they make shit content I'm never gonna watch it and they're wrong about the principles and relations transformative content and I bet they're gonna respond to this you're like yeah probably you're talking to what is it 40,000 people about how shit we are it's a good chance we might mention it there you might you got us totally called it I feel super owned I need to I've been convinced to go out and acquire a life so are you guys actually incel star wars youtubers that are wrong with everything um the last time I talked about stars would have been Mandalorian season 2 right it was over it was fucking ages ago that's like last summer I think okay so good to see how fucking uninformed these people are that talk shit about e-fap well I feel like this is a great example of like Chinese whispers right like what is it where does where does the end point an incel star wars podcast wrong about everything it's like where did that come from that came from it keeps getting passed down the line with more things of like they suck their assholes this is shit added on until like eventually you reach that point where like what you've said is totally divorced from what actually is if you go back to e-fap I think it's around 15 50 late 50s I'm not 100% sure when we covered Jenny Nicholson for the 11 hours that will be where the incel part comes from but I would like to remind everybody that they posted that we were in cells and that we hate women onto the cringe subreddit and it got removed by the moderators because it wasn't cringe but yeah fuck yeah categorically scientifically proven if reddit says we're not cringe and they're the fucking experts it must be true yeah so Hassan's attitude here it reminds me of there's a bunch of people on youtube on twitter on twitch all these places where they kind of view the internet or like that it should be a giant safe space for them and so if they get any kind of blowback it's harassment right so they can sit there and talk about whatever and then as soon as it's like they're gonna reply to me aren't they it's like you're harassing them just by daring to have a response to what they've said to you yeah it's a very strange attitude and it would really help him if he avoided going oh those fuckers they just make shit if he just said yeah that's okay they can talk about whatever they want whatever the true best move for him would probably what I'm saying is like how could he be surprised when he's saying shit like this at your size there's no way you can be surprised at this point when you say something about people and they have a response to it I've thought of the purpose example okay so this is a clip that went viral about a month ago and it was only ng making fun of the old channel awesome guys and then their reaction to it so linkara was on his stream raging about it and he would ban people who brought it up and Doug Walker was like yeah it's pretty funny that's there you go and guess who got more respect you know for being made fun of dude well I've seen the video they're pretty kind they spend a lot of the video talking about what they actually liked about channel awesome and then they're also like throwing in jokes and in fairness the way they drew linkara was fucking hilarious that's a really good video but it's really fun that sounds funny to listen to them they're really chill they're just friends and they're just drawing all of the characters people from channel awesome yeah I've had well also on Oni's let's play channel they bring up channel awesome jokes randomly a whole bunch and I've had the opportunity to talk to Oni once or twice he's actually a really nice guy he's really downed earth they're the kind of people that I kind of hope have a similar vibe to what we try to do on eFat which is just like there's no it's just people chilling out we're just having a chat it's not like nothing too fucking heady or serious or yeah guys that'd be awesome your mod says eFat has unironically been called left wing SJW right wing and alt right yeah see I've been called both a socialist and a fascist at this point so well remember transparency too they called me partisan right I was like this feels weird the console was pc days where it's like you're a playstation fanboy you're an xbox fanboy you're a pc fanboy it's like man like just fucking hell it's just whatever you criticize this one time but you're the complete opposite I released the Snyder cut video which was like one of the few videos of its size and production that was critical of the Snyder cut most people were very happy with it got loads of trouble with DC fans for that one I really pissed off a beehive with it couple weeks later we cover the falcon winter soldier I think it was around falcon winter soldier that someone on twitter after I tweeted that I thought it was a shit show it was just like fucking DC fanboys I was like on the same day of all places for affinity I was called a fascist and a libertarian same fucking day fucking libtard fascists man I hate those well here's the thing people on the extreme left who are kind of like halfway knowledgeable about theory they actually believe libertarians and fascists to be the same thing and the explanation of why is kind of long and boring but and also stupid but they at least have like some kind of grounding there even though it's really dumb but yeah it's a fun world we live in do another analysis on this dude every frame of pause is in cell star wars youtubers that are wrong about everything every frame of writing is fucking sick every frame of pause on the other hand I do not know who the fuck they are I don't know what the fuck they are I don't know who you are after their shit and it's dog shit content and they're fucking terrible also I don't know this is at the top of what people view online what the fuck are you doing people the fact that anyone gives to this man for two years to get banned by him is incredible it's genuinely I'm at the point where I'm like whatever you're getting out of his stream you need to experience other streams they are so much better they are so much richer in terms of what you can get this shit is like oh no they don't well richer no those are they'll avoid them they're scrounging they're scrounging at the bottom of the barrel when there's many full barrels just like give it up and I guess it's just a matter of like sunk cost or some shit they've just been there fucking long it's fine by the way when we first covered him there were some people in the discord and in the comments they were like I'm a fan of Hassan but this hasn't been fun to watch this is like yeah I'd imagine so how were you a fan of Hassan you baffle me your existence confuses my brain I'm trying to make sense of it and I can't at the very least go for Vtubers or something yes that would be the superior alternative by far yeah apparently they were fucking complaining about me watching youtube videos of them watch out Hassan they're gonna make another discord argument destroy your entire career it's just fucking it's so because we're on discord is that a slur if an argument's on discord it's like they're lesser than normal argument oh man as opposed to hide the apex of argumentation that happens on twitch I guess so yeah we're learning so lame dude I mean go off you're right I mean they're right they're right look he just said we're right he doesn't see anything somebody was saying in the chat they've had Sargon on so it doesn't count it's like alright we have Sargon in the chat now or he was earlier he was there at some point he was enjoying Rags commentary I'm glad that he's just like that has admitted that it's like he's wrong that's kind of well of course cause there'll be like a whole bunch of prefaces and stuff soon to follow you've heard the argument before what he's about to make it's the confusing that we dealt with last week but I'll let it play first I guess every youtuber and I'm a youtuber is every right to be upset if twitch streamers are watching their youtube videos straight up wait what so he misses the point completely but this sort of undermines all the stuff that he was trying to say earlier well so this is the thing we're evolving we're gonna understand perfectly by the end of this video exactly what his position is but from last week he did say if a youtuber tells you to stop watching my videos you do that's because they're right they are right every time of course our response was just like well no like if for example high top said stop watching my videos on efab we'd be like um fuck you you'll have to do better than that I'm afraid um but Hasan would be like no you should stop that's just how it works they've told you you're not allowed it's like okay so Hasan the way transformative content works is that you don't actually have to ask permission if we've completely transformed the content like this is just basics like um however if we were to play it in full and then move it to another video and play it in full it's like we probably would need his fucking permission at that point um but Hasan for some reason has melded these together where if you do anything with someone's content you have to ask the permission uh for it to be legal I guess and so he's running on like a piracy sort of ethic here where it's like let me do it but if you say no alright alright I won't I won't it's fine don't worry about it um when as we said last week it's like you'd think you would ask them instead of waiting for them to say no and hoping they just don't notice that's the way that the system works was way easier that way right easier to ask for forgiveness and for permission well that's what he's operating on but it's like man like you already got the utility from it like you played the video it's done like if I say you shouldn't have done that it's like oh sorry it's like you did it it's like oh sorry it's like that doesn't fix anything you did it like it's too late this goes this goes back to the Monday mat thing when that all kind of came to its head um an apology part of what makes a apology sincere and believable and meaningful is the willingness to try and make things right and to put forth some level of effort into correcting any harm that you may have done so what happened with Monday mat I didn't I don't know what's going on here this is oh it's the old thing it's the old thing this was just it oh when he was caught flagging everybody who was talking about it oh that okay yeah yeah it's sort of a good go to for here's how you fuck up an apology and how you don't um um like how this the worst way to take an L essentially oh Monday mat by the way he's someone who has shit talked to EFAP without knowing who we are and then I guess he learned or thinks he learned he kept doing it I don't know he's a he's on a wall path for a lot of he's just like kind of he's searching for um I actually don't know why he's searching for like takes that make him unique and so he goes on the wall path with like those different creators now he just does it runs into him like I'm gonna fucking end you and then does didn't he call his podcast like Boulder Industries or something as well to try and capitalize on the meme like two years after boulder industry I don't know this is actually tied in what Ryzer just saying he um he did it all wrong at first and then ages later he did it correctly but only because he just his plan wasn't working ignoring it wasn't working I don't think he ever did it correctly um in terms of making a meaningful apology and because it's the two prong thing of how do I from a personal level make this right and how do I do this right from a career standpoint in both ways because they are tied together in many senses in this business but um I don't think he ever did it right in any way he never did what it took to show a meaningful apology to prove to everyone that he understood that he made mistakes and that he was going to do what he could to reverse the damage he did and to prove that he was a different person now and that he was changing he never did any of that he's too proud and of all the people to be proud just if you're Monday Matt you shouldn't be proud of being Monday Matt you know he gives me Hasan Piker energy but I would say that I'd say that Monday Matt is smarter than Hasan Piker and that's not a high bar but I think that's just default people are smarter than Hasan Hasan is actually one of the dumbest people I've ever seen pretty low down the shocking even um yeah someone did mention this like didn't you cover him though it's like we did but I don't think he knew anything about it it was the survey he did if you guys remember where yeah he was like people did like Game of Thrones season 8 actually and everyone's lying and he did a survey we covered 60% of people in the survey weren't fans of Game of Thrones we covered him on EFAP and we also a couple years back and fun fact friend of mine we covered Monday Matt on my channel as well we did a little stream there you go it was fun that was back when the Crowder Vox thing was going on and Monday Matt has a hate vote for Trump and Crowder and all that sort of thing so he sided with Vox on that one an excellent choice Matt Monday Matt sides with Vox or something like that it was a bolder cast yeah like I said if he had done that from day one and profusely apologized for everything that he did and tried to make up for it it would have been way better absolutely that's not it that what he did is not actually a career killer he just killed himself with it he was given just enough rope to hang himself no he gave himself enough rope to hang himself he hung himself he hung himself I just ended there he hung himself I'm trying to flour this up but I really can't the worst part about bolder cast is that if you look it up all of the SEO for that name is taken up by a it looks like a weather forecast for search engine optimization all the space for that name is taken up by a a weather forecast site for bolder colorado so it's called there's a site called the bolder cast and there's a twitter called the bolder cast and it's all about colorado's weather and nothing about monday matt is coming up at all it's true which is precisely why when youtubers are like dude what the fuck are you doing I'm like oh sorry we'll never watch it again stop even a free cloud they throw out the shit yeah I know yeah but whatever I don't think I I don't want your cloud your cloud isn't even like worthless it's negative positive it's just interesting because I think about the numbers stuff you brought up earlier dev I honestly think they see it that way they are only looking it couldn't be about the discussion no specifically about the numbers it's Sigmund Freudian like it's just oh yeah it's more cloud than they'll get it man that's like really important to you isn't it like just attention I never understood the whole worshipping the numbers to the exclusion of everything else well it's just I never understood that this is just a natural result well this is just what businesses and businessmen do if they're super into like the career stuff it's just now it's happening in the online sphere as this job becomes a more mainstream and accepted thing like those people are always going to exist and it's just a natural progression of that attitude but it is a not something that I would advise people focus on it's a really toxic attitude you're entirely placing your like worth in factors that are well beyond your control very fickle and actually don't really say anything about how good you are at what you do because I'm pretty sure like everybody knows that like if we're measuring good by eyeballs and transformers is incredibly good it's better than most content that's ever been made Transformers and Justin Bieber man they're the top of the craft yeah it's like that's the best you can get wow of course that's why it's an example it's like dude it's not I don't know man like you should focus more on your work rather than how many of you would you get that's I don't know which by the way it's pretty interesting because like shouldn't people want to defend themselves if you say this in front of this many people yeah should expect this it's like are there any of the clouds like what if they're in it to be like please don't fuck my channel by this is the thing if we've been through a bazillion dramas I don't think any one creator is ever gonna be able to do any as much damage to any of us that would be in any way significant I feel like we're always gonna be fine but at the same time if any of them do fucking our fans at the very least can be like you're gonna respond to any of this literally this creator just called you out as being like pieces of shit and it's like oh well I mean what other arguments does he make what kind of content does he make a video pretty quick using my youtuber skills not my streamer skills because it's all things you can only have one of those at a time um and now we've created a combo stream of such things and I just like this is the easiest when we could ever have because of how like pathetic our opponent is and so yeah if eating up a third grader yeah why wouldn't I with all of this this is like I've got every reason in the book to do this it's like clearing the fucking well the air making the arguments clear defending the podcast itself defending ourselves as characters or our characters rather um and then showing people who are really big fans of the sun maybe you should reconsider if it's for his content simple as that so I just like this whole like are you doing it for the clouds like ultimately even if that were true it's just like you're still wrong so I can watch as you talk about and that's okay yes of course it's okay you fucking weirdo of course it's fucking okay dude are you fucking stupid so he's very upset because someone said I guess I'll watch your video for views and you'll get exposure which is pretty funny right like because the the thing this chat is pointing out is that that wouldn't fucking work because he's got barely anyone probably watching him um compared to a sun and so I mean we're doing it right we're doing it right now and he has a problem with your show doing it you just said that a little bit earlier um well I guess if you didn't know it would be unclear exactly what his issue with us is because he didn't I think if he asked himself he would be unclear what his issue is I think the best you can draw is that he's annoyed at us for complaining about something that's totally just it's fine shut up chill out it's fine it's like why you're complaining but he's like clearly really angry about it so you'd think there's more to it and yeah um the reason I like this comment from Pfeiffer is that it highlights that the principle is what matters it's not about if he's just like like what exposure am I going to get from someone with like a no channel so it wouldn't be worth it you'd be like ah so what have you just revealed there that it's it's going to be about a particular line or how many viewers because I assume that's what the point that's being tried and made by this person it's just like couldn't everyone then just start watching everyone's content and that's what content is and because Asan has to bite that bullet to be correct he's immediately said yes you can do that go right ahead this is like feel like the world you're crafting there is not going to look very good if that's all everything was but um Asan's angry the commenter has just said something that's kind of against his position what do you guys expect is going to happen I expect that we're not going to see much of that person much longer rest in peace what's your exposure what fucking exposure are you going to give me but go off if you want with your fucking 45,000 views dude go off man you just told me I was about to say so this this fun reveal he didn't get bad but Asan said fuck off you're not going to give me any exposure it's like wait what about what about the thing from earlier I think you completely missed what he was trying to say went right over your head it's incredible but you get to see it all in real time this is what I mean about how I knew that I wouldn't be able to stand watching his fucking streams more than this one it's like it's so much stupid constantly and that's if he's there watch all my fucking streams on your stream dawg have fun with that maybe you'll fucking blow up soon king did you see that there somebody else banned him oh yeah one of his mods got it one of his mods banned him instead I saw that scroll by really quick bye bye Pfeiffer oh boy that sucks fucking 45,000 views dude Jesus Christ you make it so difficult not the shit on you dude god damn if you forget they were small ones well you say that but like I just think that he was always this awful I'm sure he was always this awful I don't believe this was something that happened over time it happens so many times when people get like someone get shit on on twitter where someone is like oh you only have to follow so you what you say doesn't beat anything this is a weird scary social clout like world that I don't like where people are jumping how many views they have your tiny fucking pleb can't tell me anything I have more people listening to me so I'm right automatically so your piece of shit I really do want to make sure we laser in the way he constructed those sentences sounded like the fact that that person had such little viewership was why he was so tempted to make fun of him that's the way that he said that yeah you make it so hard not to make fun of you with how little viewers you have just give it give it all man that's what he said I mean I think that's what he believes 45,000 views dude Jesus Christ you make it so difficult not the shit on you dude god see like wow the fact that you have a lower view makes me want to shit on you it's like okay because I have more people looking at me why didn't you have a rich apple furry just crawling out of his grave just watch this I have analysis to give there is a slip there has been a slip and I must witness it it is a big slip a damn who had fucking more than three goddamn brain cells you would recognize that like I literally you get a lot of that with constant projection do not fucking care okay also there is plenty of streamers that are significantly more successful than you that already do that okay shouts out the misgift back when he used to stream that's what he would do he is yelling so loud that you can hear his throat like that it is sore poor guy man he might need to just start watching some videos lay back jeez he needs to get his mom to make him some chicken the only thing that calms him down calms down the beast I like the idea now his son is so mad that he is red and trembling and then his mom needs to come and bring the monkeys and he calms down calm down it is just a person you will be alright can I get you some chicken nuggets yeah mom chicken nuggets you want extra sauce they always make you feel better how are you going to meet a girl so to be clear the argument here he just said like there are people who do what you are suggesting better than you and he is shouting out a guy called misgift I guess who used to just stream Hassan streams and he was more successful at that than you are again Hassan I don't think you understand what they were saying you've taken it literally only literally you've exclusively assumed they wish to re-stream you and you're fucking fuming at them because they have such little viewers and you won't get the exposure that they are saying like how stupid you have to be this is ridiculous come on now the writers of earth they need to do better than this can you I have a bet let's roll the dice on this we'll just pause the video for another minute here click on this if you don't mind we will just re-stream his stream oh no let's just see what he's doing let's just see what nonsense he's it's probably me hold up before anyone clicks it will he be in front of his webcam is that what the bet should be I already clicked it so I know oh well it was a fun idea oh well well I mean if you there's no way we'll be able to watch his stream and it won't be like incredibly fucking spicy political takes or some shit now I'm also just like not interested if anything we've proved that watching him is fucking boring as hell so I wouldn't want to encourage anyone to do such things so anyway now let's continue just watch my stream and then copy it next day there are YouTube channels with hundreds of thousands that's how we laughed back in Korea he tried you gotta go and run the laugh algorithm he tried to laugh and you insulted him he tried so hard he tried to impersonate a human there are YouTube channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers they get millions of fucking views and they just you know they take my fucking videos and they clip it they clip the reactions they post it on those YouTube channels and they make money like I don't have a problem with it that doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't even matter it doesn't it doesn't matter if you're okay with it because somebody else is not okay with it and it's totally their right to not be okay with it it's irrelevant it doesn't matter it just totally it doesn't matter holy shit guys eFap as a phrase and every frame of pause are both now banned in Hassan's chat we made him upset we did it we chased clout too close to the sun we chased clout too close to the sun I'm sorry Hassan I didn't mean to upset you it's just like you said all of this stuff not me hi girl chat fucking dab well there are ways around that is J banned from like it's his name try JX and besides it would be more funny if people were saying every frame of painting responded to you just to trigger him you it's so fucking pathetic banned eFap he didn't even know what we said nope didn't have any clue he knows where the villains though right and in fairness look at this line up I can believe this is a set of villains I'm German come on what says villain more than me you're really far away though apex villainy I'm coming I've seen you there's nowhere to hide oh no the harsh real complex is fucking thriving so when dumbasses come in here and they're like if I were to watch your videos go off dude yeah I am I am consistently baffled by how ineliquent he is and how popular he is I don't get it when you in your own brain rationalize why someone is popular you have several boxes they could tick as long as they get at least one charismatic is usually the big one and I just don't see it barely string together a standard sentence there's so many gaps and spaces between every single every couple of words yeah because it's like he's trying to like he can't think as quickly as he speaks and there's no pressure he just he's completely alone he has plenty of time to think and yet he still does this when he speaks you're an idiot you're stupid fuck off and it's like man can we be a little more creative? no no? okay get a life dude get a life it's weird it's like the jock became the most political commentator on the platform just bizarre the fucking meathead at the peak of political commentator yeah and I guess that's the problem I don't feel like I'm ever gonna get anything insightful from it's not even a matter you can have people who you disagree with but who always raise really interesting points that you can think about I don't feel like I got any of this out of any of this content it's just I don't get it I don't get this one this one baffles me so that section is complete this section is just golden nuggets that I ended up getting because like I said I went through the whole stream you see that's the guy you can see right now he's doing this clip this is a clip of him explaining what he's doing with the Olympics and then we get to see Hasan react to it and he accidentally manages to talk a lot about let's just say if you needed confirmation anyone watching of what Hasan thinks about what he does we're about to get it so we count it so that does is that that removes a strike but we're fighting back type of thing and if this like escalates well it'll get crazy I don't know how much content he consumed but this could be a terrifying precedent dude especially if he's like especially if he's in the wrong like especially if it's not actually in the fucking range of fair use okay this is legitimately terrifying because if it's not fucking fair use which a lot of stuff that we do on twitch is not fucking fair use dude it's not I'm like actually worried dude you definitely shouldn't admit this if you're really worried about it he just said he's actually worried about this this is not good for you admitting that you are that you recognize that it's a problem like if it were to have a problem I'll admit that everything that I do is fair use and everything with you on eFAP is fair use I don't think we have a lot in morality it's definitely fair use I was about to say first and foremost we are ethically in the fucking clear we work hard to do that with every piece of coverage we do but secondly I'm pretty sure we're legally fine too meanwhile Hasan is probably not clear on either of those also by the way just a quick clarification because people always talk about precedent it's a little more complicated than just one case and then that's over it's more complicated than that precedent there's always contextual stuff for instance in a lot of cases there'll be several different precedents that you refer to because there's always slightly different circumstances slightly different factors different jurisdictions things like that it's not a matter of there's this one case and you lost and that is the end and of course precedents can be overturned it's just more complicated than that it's also worth mentioning though that he's probably right to be he's very right to be consumed because of what he does if XQC was to lose then that can make other people open the floodgates the Olympics won okay I'm gonna be harsher with people reacting to my shit on Twitch and you know what Hasan you don't need to be worried if you just change the model and react more that sounds like a lot of work this is a pretty sad that sounds tough this is a pretty sad reality and it's kind of true so like the additional reason why it's worth us doing all of this we're actually in his boat we're all in the reacting stuff boat and he's fucking sinking it along with several other idiots this is like can you not like he's in the road boat kicking a hole in the bottom just kicking it constantly he's like oh no guys something's wrong try grab his foot he just keeps doing it I'm gonna modify that analogy and say that there's a leak we're on a leaky boat and there's a very obvious leak that all he has to do is put his finger on it and it stops it and he will just not do it and we're begging him to please do something provide some level of content do it please and he's just standing next to the emergency exit staring at the handle it's like hey you alright buddy I'm just looking at it you want to go back to your sneak please it's like no I think I want to stand here it's had slowly moving toward it really slow slap it down oh what come on dude I'm just standing moving forward again stop it no open the door open the door which a lot of stuff that we do on twitch is not fucking fair use dude it's not oh no I'm like actually worried dude that's like fucking 90% of my content is react to Andy shit 90% react to Andy Andy's like a stand-in for just Andy is we say Randy it's like it's kind of like that yeah Wikipedia Andy and again Wikipedia Andy is more well informed on things than like a large number of people I will not stand Wikipedia Andy I will stand Wikipedia Andy Wikipedia Andy gets a bad rap I just want to clear he basically just said 90% of what he does does not come under fair use so that means like so that's a really really really bad thing to say it's a terrible thing to say because everybody can just refer to that you knew you actually knew that this was recognized anyway out loud this is way worse way worse there'll be some lawsuit some lawsuit in five years we're like some lawyer pulls that out it's like we have said like this that is the that is all talk about a huge just shooting yourself in the foot like imagine if um you know we saw that thing where it was like John Oliver's HBO's Warner Brothers that's like AT&T or something that's like imagine if they saw that and they were like oh I don't like this we're taking this down what could he say in his defense he knows that it's not okay and even and you know the reality is whether or not you understand copyright law it doesn't matter like it's still it still applies to you it wouldn't do yeah but it definitely is a really bad look if you're like a professional switch streamer who makes millions of dollars a year and you recognize that you shouldn't be doing this like I don't I don't this guy who bitches about CEOs all the fucking time well it's like CEOs are at least like doing work they're going into the office like do work and do meetings and stuff and form plans like you're just sitting here reacting to not even reacting to it you're not even there like half of the time like that because that whole John Oliver clip how long was he there for like two minutes out of the whole thing and the insane thing yeah it's so like that has to be what is working for him is just that people can come to his stream and watch all of this other stuff and occasionally get his insight though admittedly like I don't know I that that was like insight insight and quotes yeah in quotation marks big old quotation hearing his words we'll call it that we'll call it hearing his words but I get just I don't know like I don't worse bad insight is worse than no insight you know like I'd rather just watch these videos as they were originally presented rather than occasionally having him and throwing some commentary in fan people who've been subscribed to him for 24 months yeah I'd like to enjoy the serial without you pissing in it yeah like no I'm just reading this chat here it seems like that's literally what's going to happen if Felix doesn't drop the lawsuit oh is that the guy's name XQC Felix is that him I think so yeah I think so yeah well so well I mean actually that would be if he just let it happen and accepted the DMCA that'd probably be like when you think about like the long term the problem is I don't know what XQC like did whether there was enough substantial commentary or something like that but it wasn't like it would probably be better off to just let it be I think he's better off not fighting it just because the internet has already been limited on its Wild West element but the more you involve it's the Olympic committee like they got resources they got money like they got not just that it just puts a big spotlight again on the online stuff and it's just like guys we're not in a position like this is the thing we know we're fine but they might not feel that way I guess the problem is like if you're if you're her son and like you want to keep doing what you're doing you just need to try and change the copyright laws that's what you want to do but you never will at least not in a way it will protect you if it will change in the other direction well that would just become more clear they'll start like saying like twitch streams and stuff like that is stuff that's not considered to be and I don't want that because like there's definitely transformative content in live streams I mean what we're doing here I don't want this content to not be possible because some people are not putting in the effort to make their commentary different enough yeah it's not it's supposed to be the fucking thing you're there for why aren't you enjoying it enough to do that why are you so fucking lazy are you grudgingly doing this like yeah why is it just well well you know some people actually do do it but grudgingly like if you look at the um wait me no what he did yeah he said do-do what do you mean you said you said do-do you gotta honk the horn now you absolutely now because I said do-do you have to take a poo yeah so if you look at um the epic mealtime guys they went viral and they kind of got stuck into doing a bunch of the same stuff and you can tell by the end they didn't want to do it but they were doing it because they got paid and I think that's what's going on the thing is I think that's way more reasonable compared to someone losing interest in watching youtube videos and fucking responding to them just in terms of your thoughts yeah yeah I can do this till I die because I have things to say I feel like I'm the same I feel like I'm the same way yeah if like you only want to watch them and not say anything that little horn until he dies yeah and of course ultimately you could just quit you always have that you could just quit and do something else not possible I think with the song I think with the song he's basically he's in it at this point so deep that he can't yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah if Bill's coming in you have stuff to pay for you have an easy source of revenue you don't care about it anymore and so you're just going to ride it out I think that's what he's doing I guess my question would be what does he want to do and whatever he wants to do does he not have the resources to do it I'm making an animated pilot that's what the money is going hell yeah you have the means to do what you want why would you not do what you want if that's maybe this is what he wants maybe he does want to just be able to chill out and stream and watch other people stuff and go to the toilet he must relax I can sympathize with the man he wants to go to the toilet that's true someone in chat called thingy plays who is very upset with us if you want to make an argument I can respond to it but he keeps saying oh you guys are just so smart oh this podcast is garbage if there's anything we can't work with enough stuff we are pretty smart dare I say to toot my own horn I'm not going to toot my own horn we need to click the button hang on I already clicked it yeah I had to click it for myself yeah boy I do think we're pretty smart so yeah I agree with you there also this is content and I think it's quite good well he thinks the format is garbage just give me something to work with why you have his crying for hours on end and in cells eat it up because it gives them an outlet to cope, sad alright that's an interesting string of words in a sentence very clever very clever this thingy plays we're giving in cells an outlet to cope that's still not really an argument I'm still looking for more what do you mean I think our content doesn't specifically appeal to in cells but I don't see what about our content would drive away in in cell well if you think of in cell neutral if you think of EFAP as this big old house and people are coming in one of them says well can I come in we'd be like yeah sure if someone else goes he's an in cell sorry about him hopefully you'll become less in silly by our content you know I don't know what's going on in your life hopefully yeah I'll say I'm a little on the pro side of letting in cells in with me you guys you're welcome to come enjoy the fire sit down have a drink it'll be fine chill out it's going to be okay absorb all of these pearls of wisdom we're just what else has Hasan got I would literally on ads at the top of the hour and then for the rest of the hour I would just be at top of the ad streamer but fear not dude no matter what the precedent is you can still avoid those ads if you subscribe $5 which prime for free so just want to make sure you understood that $5 if I can't steal content I'm going to start running ads constantly but you can avoid that if you subscribe it sounds like a threat in a weird way I will choose to play when I run out of things to steal it sounds like the Raid Shadow Legends shit where it's like oh if you get it now you can skip the first 10 levels like oh sweet play this game however you cannot play this game by paying more by paying more you could play the game less oh yeah can we truly be an in cell podcast of someone proposed using eFab I don't know what do you mean remember someone did it through super chats I think or at least they were telling us about their weather oh yeah that's right yeah they proposed yeah that's true we are actually a gateway to many romantic possibilities limitless in scope and scale anti in cell pipeline well now they're going to say oh it's a super straight podcast or something like that just like we bring ourselves in and we're like women men you know get stuff going we're the gay conversion therapy podcast convert them into supergays that's going to be clipped and brought up sometime down the line in Minecraft it's still a strange Minecraft map but I would be curious to see it if it says a precedent and like Twitch has to get more proactive on reaction content or just like in general oh no not proactive we are rebroadcasting without like prior consent which is like 99% of the which is 99% of fucking content it would be terrifying because you already specified what does 9 to have the authorization of the copyright holder that's already specifically well so that's the super order part it's not even a precedent it's just the law it's just what it is well that's the thing if I was to steel man him I would argue he's saying that it sets like a flag where other people can be aware of something that's happening there is no precedent here it's just this is the law but he also just said it's 99% of of content like bro not like of your content I think yeah speak for your fucking self Jesus we work our butts off I was just saying we're at 3 hours and this video is only 14 minutes long oh sorry we're 14 minutes in oh god that's bright okay so it's actually past 5 and I gotta go I only had 3 hours maximum I didn't notice what time it was damn it I shouldn't have said anything it sounds like it's not quite as much of a need I am 7 minutes late to what I was going to do so I probably have to go it's not important to stay nope nope I gotta go you're upsetting chat look at the mole listen I don't feel like getting dumped by my girlfriend for not going to dinner okay well if you tell her if you don't go to a dinner with a girlfriend is she really your girlfriend if she dumps you for that and if you tell her you're doing it for EFAB she'll understand tell them you're paying for many dinners to come I think she's a huge fan of EFAB actually yeah have her on bring her you're streaming you can eat on stream just eat your food on the stream that's totally acceptable so both of you have a nice wine and dine here on our stream and just stay all night well if you guys want I'll come back for another show at some point if you guys are interested well this is episode 148 episode 149 150 is the 24 hours so we'll have you to jump in at some point on that if you wish you can stay for many 2 hours sounds good sounds good to me but if you must abandon us you should probably tell chat who you are what you do and well why they should subscribe if such a thing is ethical no I'm just going to mute and walk away enjoy your poo I'm SFO you can go to the link in the description for my main channel where I mainly talk politics I have a gaming side channel on twitch called game boomers where we actually play games what we used twitch the way twitch was meant to be used twitch.tv twitch.tv slash game boomers and you know you see me around I've been on this channel now I've been on adam and sitch's show you see me around here and there you get around you play the field you get out there make sure everybody gets a good if you guys are okay with it I'll come back on for another show sometime this was a lot of fun we'll talk to the higher ups and see what we can do yeah in finness we have managers and producers and executive producers they just get very upset we've got obligations, shareholders you know it's a tangled web we weave yeah okay I'll see you guys later thanks a lot oh my god what a clout chaser wow I can't believe it our views are going to explode because of his coverage so it's okay I guess yeah it's hard to keep it all straight by the way there's some really fun shit to come that we have not gone into yet I'm upset the dev will not see it now or at least react to it live he might still be able to see it but man let's just let's just say we watched that movie in vain I didn't even mean that I just meant at the end of this thing we're looking at right now oh a difference to the thing don't you dare make that in vain though I swear to god I don't dare make it and you just like literally it would be worse than who should be worse than youtube like why not it's transformative just like youtube dude no it's not I'm so mad I'm a little bit lost what we are now it's transformative no it's not well no I think you're both laughing at different things because I'm laughing at both of them and hilarious and two the way his brain fucking the cogs watch him like process what the person says at that speed transformative just like youtube dude no it's it's just like the delivery mechanism that is his mouth for the expenditure of ideas it just it's so perfectly dude dude no it's just someone basically saying just do it like you would on youtube and his shut down restart no this dude was like the beginning of a ban situation dude like no I bet you that dude was like his heart stopped for a moment he's like oh shit am I gonna get banned for sound that I just I like to believe he had the whole dialogue tree to choose from he could have done all different options and he was just like no the game defaulted to just whatever he ran out of time the game was just like you get this option then no yep it is so awesome because it is like he's considering options that he gives up and just says no then who should be worse than youtube like why not transformative just like youtube dude no it's not it's transformative if you're like actually fucking cutting it up and transforming it if you're just letting the video man that would be that that's a nice little circle if you transform it if you transform it awesome thanks for the extent that's like saying that the definition of happiness is to be happy it's like thanks bro you know when you're happy dude just don't we're back where we started started like you have to get to Elbit I guess present the argument and then say dude no just move on yeah and make sure the pause about 3 or 4 seconds because I think that's how long this was so your brain can catch up with its own buffering people need to wonder something from steam and the download has to stop because the hard drive can handle the load hang on okay now we can download again if ever there was a brain that needed a task manager well I don't know maybe that implies that he has a lot of he didn't task him all of the irrelevant thoughts that's a lot of destroyed content right there look taskmasters he's he's very cool yeah that's right he's super cool and he knows how to destroy irrelevant memories it's like his favourite things to do he goes home and he like throws off his shoes and just destroys irrelevant memory I want to stress by the way there's a complete coincidence this topic was on the stream that I was watching specifically to find anything he said like in response to jay or eFap and stuff like a fucking open admission that he's like 99% of my fucking content isn't fair use just like thanks for this Jesus is like it rhymes beautiful watching the video raw and that's not necessarily transformative I mean I try to fucking get away I try to be as like transformative as possible it's even worse that you admit that you're doing this as much as possible much worse we've entered into a new realm now it used to be that he was too stupid to tell what he was doing but now it seems to be that he's admitting he knows what he's doing he knows that it's not good enough but he still does it anyway because he wants to have chicken nuggets I just want to play it again listening to this I was baffled I was like what the fuck are you doing admitting this video raw and that's not necessarily transformative I mean I try to fucking get away I try to be as like you know transformative as possible obviously with notable exception yeah so there are notable exceptions where you are not transformative and you know it and you've admitted to it that's really bad and baffling he almost slipped too he said I try to get away with because people don't intend to say I try to get away with good ethical things I try to get away with giving money to the homeless I try to get away with working at the soup kitchen like it's not why would you say this why would you admit to this son piker truly his own worst enemy just no one not even yourself he needs like if you got into a duel with him he'd end up just cutting himself into little bits of confetti I thought you said duel real quick and I was trying to figure that out a duel versus a duel oh right we've had this conversation accents and mispronunciation maybe that's like the new arc of just trying to pronounce things in ways that are clearer I kind of wish that one came up because I wonder if that crosses into the reason why I started changing my pronunciation of year to stop confusing people I think I'm starting to think that too like I'm starting to come around to and this is kind of funny I'm starting to come around to the guy who said that assume versus assume you should do it the latter way actually it's probably better to do it that way less confusing well I don't know what I would be confusing it with that's the thing there doesn't seem to be that would just be one of those peculiarities you'd notice instead of actually being confused by a different word yeah that's true I would say this potential in terms of like if you do a sentence quickly and you throw a shume in there someone might be like but I feel like most people will be able to get it this other words though like maybe with dual or dual yeah I could see people being like huh just like rags was for a moment there and of course dune and dune which we talked about you know dune dune and dune yes yes that's another one ultimately it's still not like it's just not like no shot I don't think it would be okay what doesn't fall into the category of fair use for example if I'm like literally doing a a YouTube video and I just take a video from like a local broadcaster like a local news broadcaster and I just slam like 10 seconds of it or 30 seconds of it into the beginning of my video kind of like the way I do when I'm opening up a broadcast about a particular news story like the Macy's playlist that we watch that's actually not fair use it would be fair use if I were criticizing the actual broadcaster so he seems to understand a lot more about this than he made he understands more than a lot of people do because a lot of people don't understand the criticism element as being like a critical component of it but of course criticism can be positive and negative you can praise something and that would still counter fair use because you're analyzing it you're like dissecting it you're doing something with it so like the fact that he's even said this alone makes me wonder just like what the fuck has all this been why can't he just engage with the fucking argument isn't a matter of that like he knows that a YouTuber like Jay wouldn't go through like the legal process of actually doing so someone just said Mola he's literally wrong Sargon got sued for this and won Sargon got sued and won because he criticized Akila obviously by flipping who words on his self that's what he argued and that's why he won he won by fair use and the specific form was criticism he was being critical of the content the thing is he had to imagine yourself as a jury member and you see this cut up piece of a video that shows themselves shitting on themselves without realizing it because you put the latter parts in the former parts and then someone argues you're trying to resell my video for your own gain it's like no he's trying to criticize you it's pretty obvious it's not your video because of course it's when it comes to fair use like the transformative part is the murkier part but like criticism is just clear cut like that's just protected it just is parody is another one educational but that means in a school or an institute for learning not that you were trying to educate people on the internet that is not that doesn't count and obviously if Sargon is still in chat but that's what I know from the videos I saw that it was criticism it wasn't just using a clip for the start of commentary or something so yeah, Hasan is like this is the problem Hasan is like speaking to something that's very much true in relation to how you transform content which baffles me because I'm just like what the fuck have you been doing this whole time why don't you actually transform content then and why do you put up such a fucking wall when people criticize you for this that's just his personality well that's what I mean it's almost become worse fucking saying rather than using what the broadcasters are saying is like basically seasoning for my seasoning for my commentary do you understand so this is what he's saying if I was to play a clip from whatever news station and then comment almost with them so they do all the work of showing the event and then doing their coverage and then you go yeah this is really bad and they're right when they say blah blah blah that wouldn't be transformative is what he's saying which is probably true if you were taking to court over something like that they would argue you've just taken their clip and used it like you've taken the value of that clip and just used it for yourself you haven't really provided anything imagine that would be stretched to its limits when you literally paused like we do and I think at that point they would absolutely qualify but he's saying if you played a clip for 30 seconds and then he just said that use that as an intro to a topic he then started talking about it wouldn't be under fair use which he's probably right but fair use is really complicated and this is part of why we don't want a spotlight on the internet as much as possible with this because it could get a whole lot worse very quickly someone else's copyrighted content and react to it to make dollars without their content so can you see that comment is it fair use to parasitically re-broadcast someone else's copyrighted content and react to it to make money without their their consent that see if I read that as the sound I'd be like right so you clearly don't like me it feels pointed this person very much could like J for all we know yeah so this seems like a criticism of him because you can't just I mean it's in the wording of the question parasitically re-broadcast yeah and that's the thing I think he's already basically admitted that it isn't fair use to do that and now this person is I would say this is practically a character criticism it's like you do this it's not cool but the awkward part is like making money is not even a factor that matters even if you don't make money still can be like making money helps in terms of making clear the motivation right because if I said I was re-broadcasting you guys's content while not being there for no money at all people would be like why are you doing it and I go uh it's fun fun for who you're not even there but if someone said you're making money off it'd be like oh I see why you're doing it okay but you are right that would be the focus and that's the thing if he couldn't argue uh the money portion of the entertainment you'd be stuck to admit that like yeah that is the reason cent uh it depends he's pulled him up careful a lot of content creators don't mind it as a matter of fact I don't mind it personally by the way just the idea that when he's responding to it he has to have like their page and everything ready like he has to vet them and just get ready to ban them instead of just responding to the comment honestly rags I think that he was intending to just ban them but he had to do a few clicks first and he just started filling the air and he started an argument and now he has to finish it and by the time he finishes it he might have lost the drive to ban them when people do my content and many other youtubers that I'm friends with or it's okay with me and it's okay with people I know so it's not enough given that he knows it or fans of mine that I don't know of but watch their videos of personally appreciate it and enjoy it having said that some don't and when they don't I never watch it ever again falling from the future oh okay all youtubers are technically correct though when they say hey don't fucking watch anything hey what he says that they are correct when they say don't watch my videos it doesn't make any sense yeah that's not a that's a malformed statement they ever say hey don't watch my fucking videos or hey what the fuck are you doing it's like when people say if atheism is true like that's just not a that doesn't make any sense it's bullshit if I were to do 12 hours of content in a similar capacity to how like I would do it on broadcast television I would need an entire team of producers constantly reaching out to content creators and me like now this is something I really found interesting when listening to so he's moved on to the argument of it's too hard to do it the way you guys are suggesting I do it and he's gonna talk about like producers legwork workers getting everything vetted making sure everything's covered correctly making sure I have the right videos in the right space the right time he makes it sound as hard as possible to do what we literally do all the time yeah it's like he it's a struggle it's what like that youtube comment I thought was so fucking funny it's the same thing like oh my god I might have to actually do the just the bare normal amount of work that everybody already does elsewhere was a way I want to that's crazy can you see that comment I want to see the full thing of it is it fair use when all you do is watch other people's work and ignore the fact that the work you are using has been made with someone else's labour how many loyuses loyacies need to be eight to satisfy your tummies do better please honestly honestly I'm a little bit proud of Asan's chat that came out of Asan's chat good job nice goodbye though you're probably not lying for this world thank you for your service hey we're gonna use these like short increments of your footage I would have to pre-plan all of it I would have to literally pre-watch all of the videos oh no oh good god could you imagine preparation now you may have had a thought like wait a minute Asan this sounds perfect because you could employ people that's just top notch you can be the change but you know what Asan if you don't want to employ people how about as blue pumpkin just suggested as blue pumpkin you or your mods could suggest approved content let's see how he reacts to that could and suggest no that's like no one would ever do that that's insane no one would ever do that people would do anything for you which is both sad yet also true no one would ever do that that's insane you wouldn't have to pay him I think people would do anything for him the way I don't know why he wouldn't pay someone for it but okay fine let's go with the way if you will not pay for it you'll just get ten people he probably has plenty to test with just get ten people Asan to send in a video to watch on your stream and if any of them fail the requirements they get disqualified and then you'll eventually have a set of people providing you content that's perfect for your stream that you can react to or just have it near discord or whatever of people I feel like there are ways to solve this problem when you are of Hasan's size and you have this level of influence and his notoriety at what point there's like no problem he can't solve just through sheer influence alone and you know that he doesn't want to change so fuck any of this he settled in his ways he wants things to stay as they are he has found his his hammock to lie in and he is just going for it I would have to literally pre-watch all of the videos where mods could and suggest improved content no no or god forbid you personally are interesting so even if you're covering something that's shit you know it's okay because well at least a cool interesting knowledgeable and insightful person is giving commentary but that's pretty that's crazy he could have explained he was like no no it's insane no why though no that would ever do that that's insane I would have to have full time producers full time producers one moment sorry it's just funny to me because it's like even if even if it was the hardest job ever and you had to have several people employed it's like isn't that an opportunity making better content when you have the resources to do so that's crazy right that's insane I think if Ragu's on the phone we'll just we'll wait for it because this part's funny as well oh boy Destiny explaining the impact of the counterclaim I guess you probably be talking about it's like now it's actually a thing like it's not just internet stuff now it's like an actual yeah I mean this is the thing you got to be really careful and you're gonna want to do it when you have a strong case and from what I gather the XQC thing is like we're not sure about that I haven't seen it I haven't seen either from just different people covering it it's like I don't know I don't know it's a bit dodgy because the DMC has like an actual legal takedown notice it's not just like a little thing within like the ecosystem of Twitch or YouTube it's like it's a thing like it's a meaningful thing and counterclaiming is like elevating it to the next level it's like you're actually willing to contest this legal claim it's like oh boy all right now it's like serious why generally it's probably not a good idea like to do to do that even if you're in the right it could be like tricky just because of like you know the nature of courts and legal proceedings and stuff like that someone in chat said wait this part is funny you mean you already know because you actually did prep with this stream so not only did I watch the whole stream chopped it up and covered it for copyright just in case and then split it into sections so that I knew what you guys would you guys would be easier to consume it and comment on it I'm also working on a huge video like everybody would have free from this was on that and then we do the stream every week it's like oh my god yeah son I did all of the jobs that you just said were impossible and insane it's like thanks for the couple but I guess you know anyway so it's not just fair so this is uh Rags uh he's listening to destiny talking about sqc's counter claim against the olympics that's this obviously the title it's just so you know what's happening full-time producers asserts that you have the rights not just fair use that's what fair use is fair use would mean that if his usage of their material was fair use that means whatever clip or whatever content xqc made he owns the rights exclusively to that content he owns those rights so theoretically if the olympic committee were to show xqc's stream watching the olympic broadcast and without adding content or whatever xqc could actually sue the olympic committee for copyright infringement like that's what that means that's how strong um for reference his chat fucking hate destiny so you're only gonna see them say he's wrong about this exclusively the thing is calling him twitch lawyer andy but like he's correct they spam that he's they spam that he's wrong they start spamming like crazy that he's he's wrong on all this the reason he's correct is because uh the olympics as an entity that's an ip they own it it's all there's the only way you would be able to counter that is that you've transformed it enough that now you hold the ip like you hold the rights yeah so it's the fundamentals of copyright is it's basically like property it it it effectively makes ideas and like intangible things your property in the same way that like your house or your car or something like that is your property you create something and then that gives you exclusive rights over that property and that's like the big part you can enforce that whatever way you want exclusive in the same way that you and it's um it's like enforceable on the whole world it's not like a contract between one person and another person it's everybody you can apply this to everybody regardless of whether you met them before you've ever talked to them before it's that's just that's the nature of copyright it's enforceable on the world and people might get thrown by the hypothetical destiny just used but he's trying to illustrate the power of it so if they play xqc watching the olympics at the olympics he could sue them that's the power he should have if he's forcing this counterclaim which it's the idea that um once you've transformed it enough it is it is your original work yeah it is no longer even though it includes other people's work it's yours now like you you made it um and then at that point you have rights that are enforceable on other people so yeah that's the gist of it I was just gonna say try and ignore asan's chat the reason this this clip is great is just wait for desi to finish his explanation and then watch the reaction olympic broadcast and and without adding content or whatever xqc could actually sue the olympic committee for copyright infringement like that's what that means that's what that that's how strong that claim is when you counterclaim oh because he's saying that he actually does own that content that he has broadcast he's saying he owns that broadcast yes this was fair use I own that it was a transformative piece of work yeah which is why I would be shocked if there was no response I'm confused by what he was saying it's not that complicated man it's not that complicated I don't know how can he how can how in the world can he speak on these subjects with any authority if he doesn't even understand like the fundamentals of copyright like I don't he just didn't follow it at all man and hasan doesn't even present himself as the everyman basic person who is a vehicle to learning new things kind of like a like a joe rogan sort of vibe tell me more about this what do you mean I'd like to learn more could you lay it out for me yeah this is he is I feel like you need to know what fair use is to do this yep yeah it's like learning building code if you're an architect you have to know that lives literally depend on it you need to understand it not only for yourself but like you know in terms of what can happen because you can enforce this on other people too I mean obviously you're probably not a corn stuff but like you have rights too for the stuff that you've made just because you should protect your stuff as well it's like body cameras cops it's not just to protect the civilian population yeah especially fucking nowadays and yeah and of course his whole chat is just telling him destiny's wrong destiny's wrong destiny's absolutely wrong and what he was saying so I kind of like calling him a lawyer and it's like how many of you like a lawyer out of curiosity I mean I mean he's wrong all the time but I don't think he's just like wrong oh he's wrong all the time he just said he's wrong all the time but I don't think he's wrong on this like he went against his chat so high five Hassan you did it you probably weren't looking at the chat you have to go through and ban everybody in chat who said that destiny was wrong now this is pretty golden okay this also happened on the same stream and I swear to God like Zeus was out there being like you know I'm gonna give you this too I was like oh dude thanks this is so kind of you so don't worry about that Assad is wearing a shirt that has him as like a princess and it's just that's the image I'd get it for you but you're about to see it anyway somebody drew that somebody drew that and then someone else took the drawing put it on a t-shirt and sold it didn't credit the artist and the artist got no share of any of that and Hassan eventually bought the shit and wore it now as you can see on screen got live buggy at Hassan yo that's my art in your shirt it was stolen by bots so I haven't gone any revenue or credit which has sucked a lot because I'm a very small artist I tweeted it here if you want to share let's see what happens next my art in your shirt it was stolen by bots so I haven't gotten any revenue or credit which has sucked a lot because I'm a very small artist I tweeted it if you want to share here you go live this is wonderful I love this art wait for it pay them dude what the fuck paid with exposure isn't it fucking glorious isn't it just beautiful oh my god this is the advocate for the working class right here ladies and gentlemen he cut himself off right at the end he cut himself off because he knew what he was fucking saying yeah jesus christ Hassan you said the quiet bit really loud I clicked the button I clicked the retweet button I'm literally wearing your artwork on merchandise that I purchased that was stolen from you but I clicked a button that makes it all better I liked the tweet exposure I liked the retweet fuck me incredible again this was just on the same stream and I was like you fucking kidding me you serious right now he's so fucking rich he could say here have like a big here's a check like a hundred bucks like I'll pay even more than what I paid for the shirt let's set something I love this shirt enough to where I purchased it for me let's set something up so that if any other people want this shirt you get a percentage of the whatever yeah cause right I just get you a flat check exactly once you remember that full context the artist made the piece somebody took the piece and put it on shirts and started selling it and made a bunch of money so the artist made nothing off of their own work Hassan is wearing the shirt that was acquired like through the people who had taken this person's art with that and you know put it on the shirt and he's like oh hey you got a retweet I paid an exposure it's like man you know it's nice though getting paid in like actual money that I could use I don't know why exposure don't pay the bills exposure don't pay the bills if I don't pay the bills I will die of exposure don't you think it would be great if we got the artist's response to that wouldn't that be great I would love the artist's response because surely if I was an artist and Hassan the advocate for the poor a downtrodden working class surely he all people would help me well he's smiling I'll just let it play pay them dude what the fuck paid with exposure chat I didn't fucking steal this person's art why are you guys yelling at me dude dude what the fuck paid the bills like just I'll pull us on those tweets that is from the artist by the way how many times do you people have to support this piece of shit before you get the message through your brain that he isn't he that he is a piece of shit essentially he doesn't fucking care about you he doesn't care about your struggle he'll ban you if you say you don't hate your life I want to make this just this clear right you you love me you love this streamer you draw him as the princess thing as a meme and to be fair it's pretty well drawn and then he likes it and he puts it on a t-shirt and he's bought it and you're like oh wow you must have really liked the artwork but I don't even say oh someone else is oh man hey Hassan like that was actually my work I don't know and then he's just like I'll retweet you fuck off like that's a lot of what that exposure is yielded her 36 likes on so barely anything in terms of like growth of her platform 36 likes doesn't buy anything it doesn't pay for the electricity it took to generate that tweet it's worthless it's just Hassan is an actual piece of shit I would feel heartbroken and I instantly try to use my large sums of cash and my incredible influence to try and help this person out and get this artist on their feet I feel like the obvious thing would be if you have like a store which I imagine Hassan does like actually royalties for like to put or just play a flat fade to buy the art so you can put it on shirts um so yeah I feel like after watching all of that it's pretty safe to say he's a cunt he's done so many really crappy things so many people it's just like damn pretty hard to like you actual bad person you're a piece of shit and he clearly like he doesn't fucking care about anybody but himself it's pretty obvious very very clear he's making that abundantly clear there's only one thing yeah buy a drink with like um there's only one thing left and it is when we were watching the banning people section I was talking about how very petty he is now I can say objectively that he is petty because this last clip will probably prove it what the fuck paid with exposure like I guess so mad at this oh shit sorry this is the one after this it's the one after this this is just this is just the one where he talks about I threw this I threw this in because we only ever saw it through a different video before we don't we've technically responded to this but it's just it's just for posterity it's interesting okay and they make one fucking video they make one fucking video a month and get like patreon money or they make like two fucking videos a week max okay and then they cash out with like a six-figure check oh man and then they turn around and shit on streamers who literally fucking go live for six to eight hours every day how come they don't get cold loses but we do the reason this is the reason this is here is because of what all the stuff we just saw and he's talking about that like youtubers don't work for us streamers do yeah he is like full of shit he's just like to the brim he's a shit machine I like how he's angry at the people to incredible it genuinely tells me you could make a compilation of me sitting around not even on camera with a fucking video playing in the background you could 13 hours a fucking day of course there's gonna be so petty so yeah this is the last clip someone called him patty in his chat that was a huge mistake all right chatter bro do you not know by now like yeah I'm petty as shit dude awesome man dude if I never have to watch and he's like on stuff again I'll be very happy yeah incredible content creator back to back e-fabs going over just several of the highlights of his fucking amazing incredible stream fuck all your intel it's like that dude some people have already asked me for a link to the video so I've actually got so I had the first video from last time and then this video is now created I've actually rendered out one with both of them in one I called it I think Hassanpika the complete saga I can release that on Mooler if you guys want if you can come up with a better name than I did that's open to the cast as well give me a good name for the video and I'll totally do it and if your name wins the contest will pay you an exposure damn oh man I need to get something quick the Hassan cut whatever you're getting I hope you can pay for it in likes yeah some energy drinks dude the tragedy of Hassan tragedy of Hassan the wise well the wise the wise in quotations it's not even a tragedy it's more just like a tale of sheer villainy have you ever heard the tragedy of Adolf Hitler it's like no he was just a jerk he was just a jerk kinda mean also the tragedy went really quick I need you guys to help find good ones alright the ballad of Hassan Hassan the petty I don't know if we can call him pikey a day in the life of Hassan isn't too bad actually release the piker cut the good the bad the Hassan Hassan shop Hassan versus integrity that's the hunt for his piker no survivors Hassan piker versus integrity I like that Hassan piker versus integrity I like that I like do as I say not as I do that's a good like piker I'm not sure of any I like that you say do as I say not as I do he recommends people do what he do like stealing content and stuff so I don't know if that works actually I feel like I like the piker but I like piker lots I would literally die I would literally die every frame of chair every frame of chair oh dude some man of steel S-T-E-A-L oh Hassan piker colon man of steel man of steel maybe maybe just put all these down well then we'll do a poll that's the way we named this podcast so Hassan first a fist full of nuggies a fist full of nuggies wait is it Hassan piker colon a fist full of nuggies or is it something else it was just a fist full of nuggies it was all of you a fist full of nuggies a fist full of nuggies is really good the emancipation of Hassan nuggies the blockinator it's just called it chink's nephew chink's nephew nuggies or death sad Korean veteran the chair strikes back for a few nuggies more the assassination of Hassan piker by Hassan chink's nephew's chink's nephew's yes Hassan souls do you want me to die a dish that's good that's a really good one let me see someone said call it transformative content the good the bad and the nuggies got a couple of those in a row a chair for your thoughts our content some good ones here silence of the chairs silence of the chairs that's pretty good just movie memes nuggie over the river Hassan ooh we have Hassan unblocked one floor over the nuggies nest this is a good one how to win exposure and buy food Hassan and the golden nuggies 2000 water space nuggies I just like all these one with nuggets now yeah the nuggies they're gonna win out I think I think I saw somebody say the wolf of nuggies street clockwork nuggies clockwork nuggies dude where's my nuggies 12 angry nuggies we're just gonna default into nuggie movie memes oh man mission impossible nuggie particle nuggies of the caravan apocalypse nuggie far from nuggies to kill a nuggie bird glorious nuggies Hassan and the nuggie factory I don't know which of these I should actually put at the straw pole oh man a lot of good ones give me a nuggie if you can if you guys can write down in the chat we have which ones you think should be in the straw pole so I can filter them I forgot some of the really funny ones now what was the one I liked what was it just full of nuggies a few nuggies wasn't the first full of nuggies a first full of nuggies was pretty good because I feel like it should have something relating to him just like stealing content and that sort of thing yeah that's a good meme but I do want the title to be it would be a good subtitle Hassan Parker do you want me to Hassan souls do you want me to die edition that was pretty funny I did like that one yeah that's a good one I think we have a lot of correct options here yeah soon chat you shall decide get stressed out because we will judge your choices well I'm gonna get some coffee by the time I'm back there better be there will be a list probably yeah well rags keep an eye out for any late bloomers while I fill it finish this list let me look through some dead nugget society content theft for dummies I must feel like I want to incorporate his supposed worker advocacy concept because he's just so he's such a walking contradiction to his own oh yes it's incredible I don't know how he doesn't like even his his ape brain you think would just sort of recognize it you know like it's such an obvious contradiction to his supposed great principle that you just wonder how do you not know all right this is the current list if there's any in here the well that you think shouldn't be in there or that we need to add just let me know I really like his son piker man of steel some souls you want me to die edition I one floor the nuggies now exposure I think my these all these are enough good options I feel I think my personal top three are the son piker man of steel transformative content and how to win exposure and buy food I think those are my top three those are really indicative of him and how he behaves and what the stream is about and the nuggies stuff is hilarious don't get me wrong but it doesn't quite I feel sum up the video it's like a good it's a great meme subtitle for the description or something like that but I those are my personal top three I'm probably gonna vote son piker man of steel then again win exposure and buy food oh that's good because that thing with him and the artist was just so damning to his character I feel like the whole video was it was just nonstop yeah it's hard to decide what was the worst one yeah yeah I feel like we will we will call the timer on when Fringy returns with his coffee just keep it keep an eye out any others you've already got so many good options I'm hesitant to add to them how can I make this into one how I learn to steal content and love the I'm trying to see how that would work I'd have to I think someone else said like dr. nuggies or how I learn to stop caring and steal content yeah something like that sounds like it would be fun we're gonna vote the options we've got here I will spoil myself allow multiple poll answers and I guess I will create poll alright we'll post a live for you guys meaning the you guys here and here comes you in chat and I will update the description to have it as well do you get to vote multiple times or do you have like three votes multiple as many as you want okay I'll vote for my three here that I like I'm just gonna vote for all the ones I like Hassan souls Hassan souls the good the bad of the nuggies is really good minor man of steel Hassan piker man of steel transformative content in how to win exposure and buy food I think those are my top three it's still like the assassination of Hassan piker by the cow and Hassan piker nuggies still content I'm gonna add that as number four I've just limited mine to three yeah I threw that one in at the very end but I really I really like man of steel yeah man of steel seems to be the I just think it's so well I like it it's so good Bravo to those in chat who said it because I think that I think that might be our winner here I don't know I kind of hope so I just feel like it's I kind of feel like if this was my video that's what I would call it feel like that's like that's just it it excellently encapsulates the point of the video and him as a character except it calls him a man and I feel like virility is not an attribute though I would want to there's so many votes I'll keep it to the top set so yeah man of steel is currently winning with the assassination of Hassan piker by the cow and Hassan piker coming up in a second that's a good one I'm surprised do you want me to die this it's coming in fourth fourth yeah fourth but that's not a medal 12 angry nuggies has zero votes yeah I mean you know this is we'll let it sit for a while because there's a whole bunch of you listening right now who thinks I don't care about this you do care and you're gonna pull the phone out of your pocket from how you're listening to it wherever you are right now then you're gonna go to chat and you're gonna see that there is a link that's been posted by me it will take you away from the stream for a brief moment and then you'll come back later after you've done a vote on what your favorite is so that we can all appreciate a bigger slice of the crowd to know exactly what you guys are feeling about everything all right if you say you don't care I'll ban you I have no chair and I'm a stream a lot of good memes yeah the horn of condor the horn of e-fap some of these are really good oh yeah my whistling thing yeah that's the thing RTX is pretty darn good to the point where like I could literally be whistling right into like right as I speak in this words like or RTX is like nah you didn't mean to do that the thing man is it prevents me from making annoying noises to mel in a way that's just you're really ruining the experience of discord you know it really is that's like part of the streams it's like why hasn't no one burped I did but no one could hear it but it's what it's it's also what really helps the thing about with multiple people speak some people are just lower on the tier list so they get silenced it helps with that a whole bunch doesn't happen nearly as much since I started using it and I do like to have a fan going and I think it cuts off the fan pretty he looks so like awkward massive con 2021 yeah it does seem that man of steel has it so yeah you can expect that will be uploaded pretty quickly on moola once this stream is gone bravo bravo to the man of steel comer uppers withers that was a good one I like that a bunch honestly the top four five they're all pretty good I would have gone with all of them if they had won bunch of them are great we have some smart cookies in the chat got a whole bakery full of smart cookies doing pretty good 3.8k votes for 4.2k viewers I don't think because I think it counts every individual vote so I think which means one person vote for all of them counts a lot more I think you guys did a good job you got your opinions in there you guys did really good that's about that 628 votes steel still no votes for clockwork nugget oh one vote one flew over the nuggies nest that's right at the bottom one flew over the nuggies nest is good it is good 12 angry nuggies got a whole bunch more votes I guess that's because I highlighted it didn't get votes I'm assuming I don't know yeah original content the piker cut this it's all good work yeah I wouldn't want to delay I guess we should move on with the second video oh yeah about tomorrow war now I feel like before we begin I need to I find it incredibly upsetting that there were so many people who were like oh it's fun though no it's not that bad hey like it's alright it's not political like the tomorrow war is unironically one of the worst films I've ever seen in my life I echo that sentiment the tomorrow war is it is absolute horse shit we've all seen it as part of a new fat movies recording which you'll see in several years from now more than likely and then I was on Hassan duty which meant rags and fringies were on rewatch tomorrow war duty I'm afraid watch it together last night and fully fuck it is not a movie that ages well it does not improve with repeat viewings it is no prestige it is no mxc episode it is it's milk it ages like milk on a countertop in the woods it's just awful and I'm so sick of people saying well it was fun well it wasn't political it's like I hate this commentary and it doesn't mean anything because it just sucks there's no reason why you can't have a movie that is and I just flat out disagree with this notion of well it's just trying to be a fun dumb movie it dedicates a lot of time to explaining its mechanics and its rules that's not what dumb stupid movies do that's what movies make sense to it doesn't shrug and play it as a joke it doesn't ever wink wink nudge nudge to the audience it is trying to convince you to care about the relationships and care about the story in the world and things have quotations quotations quotations explanations this is not stuff that they just don't address or bring up with a hey hey wink wink nudge nudge ha ha ha ha ha ha they want this to be serious and they treat it seriously and they think that they have stakes and characters but I don't like any of these characters because they're nothing characters they're absolutely nothing characters their relationships are incredibly static and straight forward and boring they're just bad people or really stupid incredibly stupid imbecilic one might say so we got terrible characters awful world building an absolutely absurd nonsensical plot what am I supposed to like in this film may I just say awful world building is an understatement it is an understatement it is not existent world building it implies that construction has occurred it's like when you say that this is it's like when you say that the house of cards is falling down in this movie it implies that it's constructed a house of cards to fall over when if I could borrow the Mike Staclossa imagery of it's just a pile of cards on the ground nothing's been built it's a pile of cards on the ground blowing in the wind it's nothing not even blowing like blowing in elegantly blowing wildly and stupidly like a leaf blower just has come through like a tornado has just hit the card factory do you think it's worthwhile you guys certainly would be better off you doing it than I do trying to do a quick summary of the story sorry Chris Pratt he's looking for a job and it ain't working out well and then he kicks his bins and then he goes into his American home to watch the World Cup to watch the World Cup final that America's not even in the things that Americans really care about especially if America isn't in it and then a bunch of people from the future come back in time and hijack we've got a war in the future and we're losing we need you to come help us it looks really fake then we've got a whole bunch of exposition through newsreels like oh it's been like 12 months we're fighting so the fundamental premise is the people from the future are losing a war the people from the future are losing a war against these aliens and so they bring people back from the past to go fight in the future and about only 30% of them come back which is very high a number of people coming back considering what we see in this film it should be less than zero yeah it should be negative people in the present die people who they didn't even send should be dying but nevertheless that is the plan go back in past bring people from the past to the future to fight the war rather than trying to prevent the war from happening in the past and for whatever reason going back and forward from the past in the future paradoxes because the people they send to the future they die before that time so that eliminates paradoxes except if you run away from the drought send your kids or your wife or your husband who aren't going to die in that period of time so I guess we don't really care about paradoxes can we acknowledge though that the filmmakers are telling us you know we don't want to cause a paradox it's like right so you coming back in time has already created the paradox of you not coming back to tell us yeah it's the thing if you can't create a paradox that's kind of the point it's a scenario that has we don't know how it resolves we don't know what it means the future the future should cease to exist as it does the second they go back in time that should alter significantly as I was saying with Fringy and I were talking about does the timeline create a new timeline or does the timeline is there only a time a single one that just does whatever happens and it gets as messy or as clean as events warrant it kind of wants to play it both ways and it doesn't really yeah it doesn't give any clear answers on that when we finished watching this the first time we I think it was me who asked or said I think this is the dumbest movie I've ever seen and I think Crisis on Infinite Earth beats it out as like the ultimate 1 out of 10 nothing matters but this is a 1 out of 10 movie yeah it makes no sense on any front yeah we just have several instances of like for instance you go into the future for a week a week and then you get sent back immediately no matter what you're doing why would you have it like this you have a system where you can change how long people are going depending on how long the mission is that they need to do why are you sending in elderly people and fat people who have no military training to go fight a bunch of aliens and also you don't tell them what they're fighting you don't show them any pictures you don't give them any real useful advice on how to fight these things you just send them holy and blind that's worthy of restating okay again the basic premise in the future come back to the past so that they can send a bunch of people from the past to fight in a war in the future for a week and then they get time travel back to their own time okay and the training that these people receive to go and fight because they don't just pull in like oh hey we have an actual whole militaries worth of people that have training and equipment we should like send them maybe because they like know how to do their jobs basically random people it's essentially random just fat people old people people who are not people who care to deal with this it's just like essentially it's just random people they send them to the future to fight what is essentially aliens aliens they don't tell their training entails basically nothing they just strap a plate carrier to these people give them automatic weapons and say go fight in a war and that's it the training is so bad that as they're about to jump the guy next to Chris Pratt doesn't know how to reload his weapon that's how poorly trained they are he's putting in his magazine backwards the magazine that shows the direction of the bullets on the top it's like I've never seen a stupider depiction of humanity I think there's no way they lose if you're fighting enemies and you have air superiority just get some AC-130s you win easily and remember the aliens are underground one day of the week so you have free reign to do whatever you want for a 7th of the time they try to imply in the movie they get you on water they can even glide I can fly like fly properly there's so many things I'm imagining a fortress where we just have all kinds of traps like fire traps or spikes or acid these things are not you are not beating Earth these things are just not going to win they're not that good the issue here is that we have what's called we should come up with a name it's plot so like you you don't get a grasp of what the stakes are and what the aliens power levels are they just sort of do whatever the plot needs them to do for dramatic effect at any given time we can hose an alien down with hundreds of rounds and it won't do anything but if it gets close enough all of a sudden it's susceptible to bullets and it gets shot once in the throat with a 5, 5, 6 round and then we also see as soon as you take any high caliber gun it just pierces straight through there in armor, whatever you want to call it yeah, world war 2 essentially what's world war 2 era 50 caliber machine guns just tear through these things like butter but we're sending people into battle with short barreled M4s that don't do anything I mean lucky they fully explained what these creatures are and how to destroy them though oh yeah, that's right in the training oh my goodness gracious I've been drafted to fight in a future war against things they're called white spikes which is a dumb name so I've been drafted oh no, I don't know what I'm fighting and guess what you will never know what you're fighting until you meet them and now someone is trying to be like why what is the answer to that that's a very good question you might be wondering well goodness, I feel like part of training when you're being sent to fight a very specific enemy should be all of the information you could possibly give to me about how to defeat this specific enemy they don't show they don't show you as a recruit right being trained, they don't show you pictures of the aliens apparently not even really descriptions of the aliens what the aliens combat capabilities are what their behaviors are what any of their real attributes you don't know what they look like or sound like you're just basically given a gun and told go shoot the aliens and that's it so what you guys aren't appreciating is that from a cinematic point of view, a filmmaker's point of view because you guys tend to look at things like nudes or whatever so from a filmmaker's point of view we want to hide those monsters for as long as we can then reveal them in a very atmospheric sort of horror like scenario and if we show people what they look like ahead of time it's going to ruin it so can you understand that at least? yeah so instead of trying to cleverly craft a structure to your film that allows for the audience to get a reveal while also letting the audience know that the people who are being trained to fight these things know what those things are you can be shocked by it right but the people in the film don't necessarily have to in complete chronological parallel be as surprised as you are especially considering the context of the film and who these characters are instead of trying to do that and be clever and have what we call talent they just say no fuck it we're just the soldiers don't know what they are and that's that shoot for the belly in the neck which you might think oh that's pretty simple that applies to all kinds of things these aliens are very oddly shaped so and they're given human targets the soldiers are given human shaped targets to practice with that doesn't in any way apply to the aliens themselves it's on the point of film making right the answer is what indigo gaming has just said so these are problems that you have to solve as a film maker you're like how do I make it make sense and also keep that cool atmospheric reveal how do I do that you could have so many options in a board room what if they morph, what if they are ever changing so whatever we see isn't necessarily what we will see and he's just suggested you could have shown the characters reactions and photos and not shown the aliens until they appear later in the film so you can easily just show the montage and she like reveals it play audio that's relatively vague just to be like yeah and then or you have the screen but we don't see the screen we can hear the noises they make and we can see everyone reacting to them which is like damn what are these things or your first your opening action scene that we have for films is in the future this is like the aliens killing people and going around and it's all terrible and horrible that's your opening zinger to get people interested and then we can cut to the normal stuff so that you know the audience knows what they're fighting against and we see that they're very destructive and terrible and all that sort of thing and just something that's like you have many options the more creative you are the more options that you have it's actually really great but fuck that I suppose talent's difficult someone else just suggested you could have it that we do see it but it's in a completely controlled and sterile environment and it's really not scary and then yeah we've captured some aliens for you guys so that you know what the fuck it is you're supposed to be going to war against that sounds useful oh no I just meant from a filmmaking point of view right we see them we're like they're not so bad and it's like this one's dead they're not they're not like this when they're alive you know plenty of ways to build it up while also maintaining this big spot you know what I think we've said enough we'll probably we'll probably jump into more of these subjects with how this video is likely to bring them up but to be clear don't watch the tomorrow war it's terrible it's terrible maybe if you have a circle of friends who watch bad shitty movies and you laugh at them maybe but in no other context could I possibly recommend you watch this movie it is so dumb your brain will fall out of your head you will turn into Hasan piker if you watch this movie you'll need to take a nap so oh wait Mel can you get can you get the clip from your stream of when I discovered this video existed is that easy to get let me just look in the I actually don't remember if anyone made the clip they definitely did because I saw it in I could have been disclosers then just give me a second it might be in holocrons but I wouldn't mind playing that first actually that'd be fun yeah I would I just need to look into my my dashboard here oh yeah you could probably find it because there's like a tab for people who've made clips from your channel whatever right yeah it's really really good that's like one of my favorite functions of the twitch thingy he's gonna say clips I've created and then clips of my channel and then by the way people some people are saying like oh is it a ripoff of edge of tomorrow is it a ripoff of like stash of troopers whatever I'm just like I oh it'd be a good I just think it's bad on its own yeah I think that's a good kind of jumping off point for a very quick comment on this movie feels like three movies that are sort of stitched together and one movie just ends and that movie is done so now we're in a different movie and now this movie is going to happen I still remember that movie is done and now we're just going to wrap up with this to its own movie I still remember that just a position with how we went into science movie for a while like after full on action movie like when it's studying and yeah just like wow this feels like we're just doing something else for right now I think clips work and watch together can't imagine they wouldn't have a look oh I think it looks like it's loading like it does it does work it's removed my control from watch together and it's in the video inside it now but is that pause for everybody it's a complicated name that's not good okay so what I'll do is I'll roll mine back to zero and then you just say when? everybody roll yours on to zero and then we will play at the same time this is me discovering whether or not this video exists to be true okay three, two, one go go hey mupley hey what? I feel meant to release the vid on the tomorrow while calling it the masterpiece don't believe you thunder just rolled it to me no no how to build a cinematic masterpiece oh my god he's no that's like one of the worst movies someone clip that please that was such a great reaction no no oh shit I'm dying fuck you just wouldn't have thought it's true so now I remember a time when we first watched film minimum people getting mad at us for criticising him I do remember that time too that time seems to be over yeah hey look I remember I was just saying so I remember when people sang tomorrow war oh you know it's fun a lot of people saying it's fun as if you can't apply that to literally any movie you guys hate like but it's fun last Jedi's fun I love the battles in it I love what it has to say about failure and how mental excitement in the CGI it's great the graphics are amazing wow um so this video is called the tomorrow war how to build a cinematic masterpiece film perfection say that title one more time in the thumb so the title is the tomorrow war how to build a cinematic masterpiece film perfection film perfection Jesus Christ so that's why I was so shocked there are movies you could say that about I guess I can see why they would say that and then there are movies that would be like no but it's them but this one is one where I'm just like nobody would say that it makes you think that you misread the title yeah because it couldn't possibly be what your brain originally thought it was um and in the thumbnail it says perfect now I um just really quick some people have been asking what was playing that's tribes of mid guard so it's a little indie game that I think I found actually it's kind of fun now I actually um DM'd film ento asking if he'd like to come on to discuss this movie and he was like I think he said he doesn't want to see or talk about anything in any way to do with the suicide squad so he's like off the internet until he gets his review done I think um which a lot of reviews do that they don't like to be influenced by anybody it's fine I yeah um so I said though I was just like I thought your perspective on this movie was going to be really interesting he was like well the script was actually really really awesome but what they turned it into in the film was much less like impressive and I was like oh but still a masterpiece and he was like no so but Mahler he calls but Mahler his video is a cinematic masterpiece and his thumbnail says perfect on it and his title even says film perfection well and a lot of people said this when I first posted on twitter because I was like what the hell they were like is it bait so from what I've gathered because I haven't actually watched this video he has a comment where he says he's noticed that people are upset that he's too negative on his channel so he'd like to be a bit more positive I guess he over compensated in the other direction by lying well I mean because I know what that is Mahler, that's a lie I've seen those before I know that's just lying that's not even like I'm wrong and I'm accurately reporting what I believe to be true that's just lying so this is what his description says 2021's the tomorrow war is a new action thriller blockbuster starring Chris Pratt that's based on sorry that based on general reviews wasn't very good to the point where apparently even Paramount didn't like it enough not to sell it off to Amazon's streaming service instead but since I may have been too consistently negative recently including my quiet place part 2 video today we're gonna sorry today we're gonna flip things around and try and find positive things to learn about the tomorrow war regardless of it being a good movie or not today's video why would you call it from perfection then for the bait I guess today's video also introduces the Filmento meter which will become the only review meter to objectively decide whether movies are good or bad and the tomorrow war he's using the word I think he's using it to insult it more than to actually use it and the tomorrow war might actually surprise you because it may very well be the greatest movie ever made it isn't that's the sentence ok so he's saying he's gonna praise this film as best he can but he knows it's not that good that seems to be what the plan is but he's said in the thumbnail in the title that it's perfect so this so he he took cinema wins as advice kind of little bit yeah so um let's jump in I really don't quite know what we're getting with this I'm honest with you yeah I'm curious what he's gonna say that's this baffles me why are you playing modern warfare 2 music I don't know 100% it's a meme I guess making a mess this is an April Fool's why are you doing that making a masterpiece so this is the video you double down on it let's just wait for what he says because that's all I can go on at this point is being the thing we can trust apparently we can't trust anything else the tomorrow war is a new Chris Pratt action movie about people in the present being drafted into the future to fight an extinction level threat deadly alien monsters and what has it been apparently it isn't very good considering that even the studio behind it felt so unconfident in it that instead of putting it in theaters or under by the way since we're trying to be positive I'll give I will throw a tiny bone I will throw a bag of bone meal at this tomorrow war I really like the design of the aliens and I think that the initial reveal that he showed there of it like panting in the dark and the lights on it I thought that was a really cool creepy visual I think that's the extent of what I could say positive about the tomorrow war was like a three second shot well there you go so there we go that's that's it there we go that we can do it too we can be positive that's a that's it that's all I got for under all streaming service they just sold it off to a competitor streaming service instead meaning that there's probably a wealth of negative stuff here to discuss but since my last video made quite a few of you expressed that my channel was becoming a bit too consistently negative perhaps just if I be so this time I'll try to change it up for you and find positive what do you mean perhaps just if I be so shouldn't that be something that you should have like an opinion on do you agree it's been negative or not this is the thing with eFap it doesn't work that way and it shouldn't work that way necessarily like it can't work that way if you're being completely honest or you're trying to approach everything the way that you've set out it will happen that we cover like 10 things in a row that we think are bad that can happen if someone like man you guys are so negative I should be like well not really we're just being honest like that's just how negative as what exactly it is as negative as the content justifies yeah like and also this is even different from the idea so let's say we've got let's use hypothetical eFap as an example everyone in chat is saying wow you guys have covered 37 movies that are terrible wouldn't it be great if you guys covered something that that's actually good it would be nice to get some positive coverage and so instead of saying oh well this movie came out we'll just review it positively instead of that we said oh we really like the prestige so we'll go ahead and we'll talk about the prestige because we like that movie and there's a lot to talk about it and we can be simultaneously positive and also truthful so that's cool we could do that that hypothetical is different than what the decisions the army took right completely missed the point of the movie so here's the thing may doler the movies fucking retarded and as I said the humans from the future as they are presented by this movie are the dumbest depiction of our species I'm using our collectively because I'm a dog of course our species that I've ever seen in any movie ever missed the I'm really curious what they mean by you miss the point I'd love to know what the point actually was yeah please I want you to say in the comments here and ping me so I see it what you think is the point that I missed I would like to know what you think the point is that I missed you have your answer right the Nazis sent children with rocket launchers in the first lines and you think the army won't throw regular civilians at monsters when the world is at stake when they have access to time travel probably not it's so beautiful it reduced your position but he did the very best he could to blur what happens in the film he's blurred it to the point where civilians were sent to battle the enemy and you guys think that would never happen it's like wow the Germans I feel like they did the Germans did a way better job thanks to credit the Nazis I feel like in their military training they would be like here's how a firearm works this is what you'll be shooting at here's some basic cool tips and tricks to help you in the battles that you might be a part of at least they told the children how the RPGs worked at least the kid probably he's like alright you're gonna have to know how this works so we're gonna take this modicum of time to tell you how this gun works what a crazy plan I can't believe that somebody would unironically compare the events of this film to real world events for context when in this film they have 12 months as far as they're aware to actually make plans and it's in the future that you can change how in the world he's restated that he believes our main point is that the army would never do anything stupid so this reminds me of the the Black Widow floor that we were talking about with David Harbour where it's like he referenced that he fought Captain America because he's stupid it's like that's not a viable level of stupidity that doesn't explain the choices that are being made I'm sorry we're talking about a massive ongoing systematic failure of the militaries of the world ongoing every government every military organization basically every collective mind of humanity has to be operating at a level of such insane stupidity to enable this plot to take place yeah because there had to be not a single person who was like nah for real let's build another time machine give ourselves more time which they fucking do in the movie but they still talk about it so what you just said is like you can train for years before being said like theoretically right you have the time stop saying the point was missed instead of saying what the point missed was yes we have you gotta be, you gotta do better God forbid I say it but you gotta you gotta do better Falcon man he's my hero hmm we just hmm put the point that people miss in there otherwise there's still a way that anybody can figure out what you mean well just to create frustration we'll be like okay you missed the point great we've done it conversation and also just just because I feel like we're sort of glossing over it I don't fucking care what the point was if in the movie stupid doesn't make any sense and is executed poorly so he just said doesn't it make sense though that competent leadership would be dead at this point no these are the people also as if the whole viability it doesn't make so like a child a 10 year old could easily have come up with a way better system like they should be like oh what tools do we have time travel wow wow I would say that on the spot random fucking movie goers would come up with better solutions oh hey John he's in chat I guess and he thought this movie was really shit I'm guessing you know what you could have loved it I don't know I can't push this any further forward I don't know how to it's like a button that has the word win written on it and you're like they're so stupid they keep missing the button look at them and they're just like pointing at different directions like and you're like that explains it because the army is stupid it's like right okay I don't know I don't know why this would be acceptable to anybody but Matt if you feel that way that like military stupidity explains this damn yeah I'm um we should ban all the people who disagree with us by the way guys we've got and some of them who do agree with us just for good measure just to show we're serious yeah what was the Star Wars thing operation like firestorm or fireball or operation fucking moron yeah it's like it'll do that operation brain dead yeah they made stupid decisions because the aliens called them a boy there we go that's a oh we like that I like that's it that's that's becoming an old callback to oh yeah that's very old um I guys yeah it's hard to believe how long you go tlj stuff I imagine in the same way that Hassan's audience have been trained to be like subservient and obedient and not understand like the greater implications of what he says this movie's probably convinced people that time travel isn't that great of a tool and that it the fight is what matters when it's just like no time travel trumps that there's nothing the aliens can do you don't understand you can't you can't lose time travel it's over we won many times over we can't even lose it's uh it's fine well you know let's carry on huh how about that no positive angles from this film instead and also since I still keep getting unpleased feedback about reviewing movies wrong no matter how I try to repeat that I don't review movies because grades don't matter I don't review movies I beg to differ my friend I don't review movies review movies because grades don't matter well I think he thought that sounded good but the fact is he does review movies he totally does he's reviewing them he's categorically reviewing them just because you don't give something a grade at the end doesn't mean you're not reviewing it does he think that's what it means I can't believe he thinks that's what it means and also you are you're calling these failures and perfection so you are grading them yes you are absolutely correct so he's just wrong on that secondly he's got black widow's problem was spy weaknesses I'm very interested to know that he thinks the failure in black widow's spy weaknesses rather than everything secondly writing harm's concept what? writing harm's concept so is he talking about the concept was good but the way it was written harmed that concept it didn't bring that idea into proper fruition maybe isn't that a weird way to put that I might be doing the writing harm's concept it's definitely odd it's not the oddest thing but not how I would phrase it I would just put good idea poor execution that's one extra word but it's way more clear RLM don't do numbers all grades and they're a review channel because you don't have to do the grades or the actual numbers to review something but he does grade things so it's just weird is this video a skip for anyone else? it's skipped but I followed I didn't miss anything I'm just curious if that was everyone else and he left that in his video it's much together rather than him I don't know it's just a thing just here that by default will still also serve as very important definitively objective proof that this and Paul is the greatest cinematic masterpiece ever made regardless of the tomorrow war overall being quote-unquote good or bad there is very useful positive stuff here worth paying I think he just wants to make it feel dynamic I guess he should spend less time working on random visuals and more time thinking with his brain I mean the script would have been but he had the red and the green gonna clash because obviously red is bad green is good and then turns the light on because you know what, good and bad is not important it's the lessons we take away that's what's important even though he calls this a perfect movie damn well because regardless of the tomorrow war overall being quote-unquote good or bad there is very useful positive stuff here worth paying attention to starting right from the alien monsters for example which shine not only in their intense design and introduction shine in terms of their intense design there's very weird sentences I feel like it would be the whole thing I'd like to hear that again actually I worry about the copyright in this one it's playing long clips and I don't know if I should put my copyright protection up I'm gonna put it up put it on relatively low okay chat I'm sorry but I'm worried we don't want to be going down at this point alright oh no we can't let Hasan win he can't keep getting away with it except apparently he can we'll put it on 40% alright you guys should be able to see it still alright let's listen to what he has to say because regardless of the tomorrow war overall being quote-unquote good or bad there is very useful positive stuff here worth paying attention to starting right from the alien monsters for example but we have to get like an hour of the movie or something until we see one or however long it is if that's your starting point I suppose it feels like it's an earlier thing when you look at it as concepts in the movie it's like aliens are kind of where you start in terms of like aliens attack earth and maybe he feels about it that way rather than chronologically in the movie it's like we can start the aliens they're so awesome you know and I haven't really gone into anything in depth I'm just saying the aliens themselves it's like yeah that was the soundtrack from it follows I'm pretty sure huh a movie I intend to show you guys at some point it's a horror movie I have not seen it but also more importantly in the way they're continuously evolved halfway into continuously evolved there's two types there's the one the queen and then the drone that they fly and then swim but that's not evolving they always could do that as the others really it doesn't seem to be any different than the rest it looks a little bit different in fact that was one of the things when I did the rewatch with Fringy I was saying Fringy it's really weird that this one is the queen but it just looks like the rest of them it's not this someone in chat said let him finish you must oh boy so here's the thing no he's made complete thoughts yeah he's made complete thoughts well so let's just we'll have to do this every time someone says it it's like welcome to eFap first of all we pause literally whenever we want we just pause we pause everywhere all the time every goddamn frame oh pause pause pause pause now when Filmento says I like and we pause and then I go you know what I like and then I start talking like hey hey I want to know what he hey he didn't finish it and I'm just like you have to wait you have to wait on that and then it's like okay but what if he says I like how I don't know chicken smells and you pause him and then he's gonna go and say he's gonna end the sentence with smells like chicken and you assume something else and so you go off in a tangent you talk about some bullshit and then and then you realize it was all in vain because he didn't even make that point you can't respond to him when he hasn't finished his point like okay so you could be correct actually and if that was to happen what we usually do is go oh you meant that oh okay then well that's that at least we got some good discussion out of it so at least there was some value here also criticism is a journey it's not a destination so that's it that's that's all you get so I hope you can survive that experience you listen to us respond to an argument you didn't make and then we say oh he didn't make that argument moving on and so it's kind of like two arguments it for one secondly that boy yeah he says I like how they evolve dot dot dot and then he goes on to say we stop him and then we discuss what he probably maybe may not think whether or not they do like we're going to talk about first do they evolve from our perspective no just no categorically and we as ringing just brought up is like oh wait maybe he's referring to the swimming maybe he's referring to the flying those don't really count as evolution and someone's like well why don't you just let it play and you'll find out it's like we're fucking talking about it just leave it alone it's gonna be fine yeah makes me wonder why you're here so we will we will find out in a moment what he meant and then we will respond to it as he meant it until that time you have to listen to us talk about half of what his point could have been and what we'll interpret it as is welcome to a show about us talking about this shit that's what this is we have to talk about a bunch of stuff on our podcast Mahler you fucking mad man hey I'm going to do this speech every time someone is new and we're covering someone relatively new and they're just like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa we didn't finish his points like I know isn't that horrifying yeah it's time for our point so so on so you have a button now that all of that sorted as we said I don't actually think they evolve at all in like a literal meaning if he's talking about as for you mentioned the two the two styles of the way they travel it's like well that was something that could always do and they sure don't it's it's weird to see it because they don't look like they can do either of the things well at all because you look at a creature and a lot of the times you look at a creature like a fish or a bear or a monkey or a horse and you're like you know what I think just at a glance I could pretty well sum up what this critter might be good at and not so good at you know you look at a horse probably not great at climbing trees but I bet he could run a long ways and I bet they're pretty good at running you know I think you get the gist when I see these aliens I don't think they could swim really well and glide well I think that's part of it I think they do it on purpose because you don't expect that and they're like oh look at this they swim in isn't that oh and you just kind of like mine goes they can they can what that's a how someone said you could stream all the filamentous stuff then come back in the room and say dude that's insane no no no I just say true yeah all righty anyway let's listen to what he substantiates this as and I do you want to put a bet on if we've covered it or not already because of our ingenious predictions or do you think we haven't I think that we have gone into far more thought than he ever thought to think I think Fringy was bang on I think he's going to talk about the water and flying thing yeah I think that's I think that's what it is and if so I expect some red faces in chat in the way they're continuously evolved halfway in their story we meet this queen mother monster that continuously raises the perceived danger and intensity of all other monsters higher and higher to the point where against previous presumption I don't understand to the point where against previous presumptions we see them flying we're not actually safe from them in the air in the air not even miles off hey we did it okay just like Ampenter on us like what else was he going to talk about well that was so little that's the power of fucking discussing it it's just like I like to speculate where they might be going because of how limited their options are that's fun yeah I was like hmm he said exactly yeah we were we were bang on we already went over how these are not arguments so alright they evolved he just describes what they do he doesn't explain anything or elaborate on why he's correct or anything like that he's just like this happened in the movie oh maybe he will race because we cut him off maybe we shall see maybe you'll be read in the face how about that oh my goodness gracious I'll be blushing with into the ocean and the queen itself turns out to be intelligent enough to comprehend the threats to its kind okay so that was hilarious in the movie where it just allows itself to be captured until it realized yeah for chat right basically they're working on a cure well so an acid type thing that will kill the aliens or toxin the gist of it is that they created a toxin that can kill the males but not the females this one will kill them all including the queen so the queen is captured she's sitting in a little cell locked down and she's watching them work on this for ages until this moment where they go we've got it we've done it and so the alien releases some kind of like fucking scream that attracts all of her no no they're already there they're already on their way so when we rewatched it right after they make the toxin all of the all the aliens show up and they're 25 miles off the coast so these aliens were already on their way so what was the scream for the scream was just hey look oh I'm here come get me they're already coming together they were already here right on schedule they get the toxin mate and the aliens are there they've swum the entire 25 miles out to sea no clue how they know to get here or where this is or anything like that they're just here because we need drama and if that's not a good enough reason then why are you working in Hollywood I it's infinitely hilarious that she only screams when she she's like sitting there like they haven't got it yeah it's fine yeah it's fine like no they have to carry the three and they use the square root of negative one to find the toxin coefficient they're never going to be all these stupid humans also wait a minute is this the view of the alien yes it's the editing that he's done of the view of the alien oh no I generally couldn't remember the film that's not all that bullshit isn't actually on the aliens face right scan mode oh no I do think that this is actually supposed to be alien o vision because I was about to have so many more questions like no it's fine it's fine okay so yeah it's really funny the idea that he's selling this is like oh see they recognize it's just like what do you know this comes out of nowhere it's just it doesn't make any sense why would she have done anything to complain about this before how could she know what it what it is I recognize the science like if you see it that's harmful to humans just even if it's brand new like never seen before you'll just know you look at it and you go oof and also to take its own infected limb to keep fighting so on the monster front for example this film puts in a lot of great effort that you should draw inspiration from interesting do not draw inspiration do not do not do this they can fly they can swim and it bites the limb off when it's been poisoned this is great effort great great like like three of those things just don't even well two of those things they don't even like apply and the third one is just things that animals actually will do so I guess I just what are you saying it is kind of interesting right that he he referenced something being so amazing to cut off their own arm to escape we're just like yeah the fucking creatures do that when they get stuck in big traps yeah it was a great a little mini story from Hannah in Haunting of Hill House about the mouse and the glue trap oh yeah that's actually really something I need to probably devote to memory because that's kind of a good meaningful story that you could actually use in real life to explain things to people like the idea maybe in an attempt to be less cruel in a way you can actually be even more cruel to things without really noticing it or knowing about it it's not just intent consequence that was a good show remember those I've heard it was a little boring and it's not very scary for horror show I saw a tweet of Flanagan was his name right I think his new thing is coming out show yeah I still saw people in the end of the therapy I didn't even like lie it was a little boring I watched like three episodes I couldn't get through it it's your loss it is pain it's fine if we promote stuff like the tomorrow war we shouldn't lie about it we're heading for a golden age of media that is just a no justice in the world situation well hey man the aliens bite off their own limbs to keep on the fight it's not exactly boring is it like I said in another show so with this mentality in mind let's teleport into the world of tomorrow war and look for a couple more specific central key the strings that we alright there aren't any flowless words in these sentences I understand completely he's going to look for positives he's looking for the positives so you have to consider that yes he's saying that there is flow but there's also positives so let's see what they are and let's see if they fare all other film productions use for and this way then also of course see why it's the greatest cinematic masterpiece of all time at least until next week's positive video why would you... so now I'm very confused is this satire is this satire feels like it but Filmento being earnest is impossible to distinguish from actual satire hence my very confusion I am very confusion yeah well because now are you like wait so are these positives or not yeah like are you just fucking around with me or is this shit that I should just actually you know know and be aware of someone just said the ball drops like do you understand how unclear it is yeah he's not doing a particularly great job that's the problem something shouldn't make more sense the less you think about it the first central positive you want to notice here is how the established goals and plot bits of this movie rarely occur as intended but instead in a failed way that increases their difficulty dude I'm alright I'm gonna need to hear that again so I already tell you that I rarely ask for this but I would like subtitles in this YouTube video uh we're gonna restart we're gonna restart listen to that again central positive you want to notice here is how the established goals and plot bits of this movie rarely occur as intended but instead in a failed way that increases their difficulty and tension and so on so on alright so I think he what he's trying to say is the setbacks that the characters encounter um stress how difficult the problem actually is and that's one of the centrally good things you should look out for in terms of a plus positive I think the key here that you should be saying is if a plan succeeds or fails it needs to make sense and it can't just be for whatever fucking reason because the success and failure of plans and schemes in this movie has nothing to do with like making sense and everything to do with whether or not it's dramatic in that moment someone just said it's clearly satire it's like no it's not clearly satire you have more confused people here I have no idea if that was the honest or not there's people in chat saying it was obvious and honest that he's saying things don't go always the way that the protagonist would like them to go and the difficulties arise that make it so they don't automatically win what is happening he's saying the characters face a lot of setbacks which create tension it's like yeah I think that's a very valid interpretation or is he joking I'm assuming we're supposed to take him seriously in the things do not work out the way the characters hope that they do and they deal with those situations as they come now if he's actually being earnest my response to that would be a lot of the drama in this film arises from characters making absurd nonsense decisions such as let's inject a bunch of queen aliens or whatever and then we'll piss off like the entire hive and then we have to detonate the entire ship and several of our guys have to be sacrificed yeah and let's not tell anyone tell the worlds yeah oh I think that deserves its own explanation okay I say explanation loosely as I often do in EFAP okay so the third movie in this movie is that they they have this they successfully create a toxin in the future that will kill all of the aliens male and female it's very progressive and then they time travel Chris Pratt time travels back to quote unquote present day with this toxin so that it can be mass produced and used against the upcoming alien scourge so through a series of impossible to explain ridiculous lines and plot threads they are able to locate underneath the Siberian tundra in Russia a crashed alien spaceship that inside of it under the ice everything's frozen has inside of it what they believe to be alien scourge that will emerge from the ship when global warming thaws the ice okay they arrive at this ship they find it they're here okay we're at the spaceship it is at this point knowing what the stakes are for the alien invasion that's to come they don't tell anyone they don't tell NATO they don't tell the government that it's right they don't tell Russia they don't tell America they don't tell anyone they don't send text messages they don't send one of their crew back home with like pictures video as proof just in case their plan doesn't work they all decide they have decades to work with and the moment they find the ship they all decide that they need to go in but it's worse than that because they actually suggest that they should tell the world's government about this crashed alien spaceship with the alien monster scourge inside of it that will destroy humanity in the future that all of humanity is already accepted will occur they don't tell any of the governments they decide to go in themselves and what they do is they go into the spaceship and without checking the entirety of the spaceship to see what the fuck instead they happen to come across a room with like 10 pods with queens in them and they just start injecting them with this toxin that they've produced and it fucks everything up and it wakes up all the aliens in the spaceship and it's all a fucking mess Alan, you know what the best pod is of that scene? They blow up the ship so the toxin was worthless it didn't matter you just blow up the ship which cancels out the whole film the toxin was the whole point of the second act of the movie and it's just negated instantly because you just blow up the ship turns out C4 will solve all of your problems we didn't need the toxin you just blow him up and that's super effective someone in chat said they did tell people what they were doing the government ignored them this was before they found the alien spaceship I was gonna say the government they wouldn't have ignored them the government decides that they're not this guy who comes back with the toxin right this guy they don't listen to him or anything they don't talk to him they don't trust him they just say we're not going to do that and that's that that's the extent of it they say hey we found out that there's probably a crashed spaceship and it's got all the aliens on it that are going to destroy the world we have a general idea of where it is but we don't know for sure can you help us save the human race and the government's like lol no and that's that wasn't it like uh no that's Russian airspace no no they're in universe explanation more air quotes just assume they're there whenever I say the e-word is that we have enough problems to deal with right now all right okay I remember something with airspace I don't know well they had to get a plane that could fly them into Russia's airspace undetected or they could just email Vladimir Putin at you know thebigputin.ru or whatever and then you can say we are and write through the ice field and look for a spaceship it would be big on the fact that they found a spaceship in the middle of Siberia like dude it's Russian if there's anything that I know about Russians is that they sure don't want to save Russia ever so I guess that just doesn't pan out or anything it's Russian Russian is fucking massive it's got like 37 times what no hey Mr President did you get my whatsapp of the picture of the spacecraft this is CGI just like Americans when they supposedly land on the moon and yeah and someone else said I feel like the overall video is satire but the points are earnest which is confusing that's an entire project that's the cinemasins why I'm doing it it's satire but you make actual points you believe in so nobody can criticize you this road is your satire yeah this is gonna be a tough one to get through that point it's donkeys satire yeah donkeys does it too when I'm wrong it's satire when I'm right I am the big smart the near beginning sequence of our heroes being sent to the future on their first mission essentially our hero Dan along with a bunch of other civilians have been randomly drafted and are now prepping in the army facility to ship out well they weren't randomly dropped they were selected it's it's virtually random I guess but technically not so maybe you by looking at all the people they have assembled it would look random that they just picked random people yeah maybe it's from their POV that they would feel it's essentially random or something yeah it's virtually seven days which isn't a lot of time to prepare but at least it's something one mindset's no time what's going on I thought we had seven days the world doesn't end on a schedule that doesn't make any sense that's all the explanation they give that's the explanation they give the world doesn't end on a schedule so but like that's that but like it do as in we know when the world is ending so that's the whole point why we did this it's so weird now what someone might say if they were not intelligent and enjoyed this movie or thought it was good is they might say oh but ragsy my dearest doggo didn't you know that the reason they had to hurry up is because the airstrike was going to happen which only makes you man if that is if that potentially was your explanation then that raises up the issue of why would they airstrike something that they need why would they not wait why would they not wait yeah why not just wait there doesn't seem to be any ticking clock other than the one that you made for yourself people probably want to acknowledge that is Bioshock Infinite the objective market things yeah I don't like to be reminded of that game it's very rude before the seven day prep is even near completion the situation turns so bad that we actually have to go right now which in other words launches us into the mission but if you were to ask Filmento how did the situation get so bad to warrant this you know this early expeditionary activity then he would not I don't think he would be able to answer that question because I just don't think he's aware of that and I wouldn't necessarily blame him except for the fact that he decided to make a movie calling this a fucking masterpiece but I wouldn't generally blame anyone for not knowing what the fuck is happening in this film because it's really really it's so dumb it's become confusing I think this is one of his examples of you know we had a stressful kind of goal and oh look it's not it's even worse than that it's even more stressful like oh damn wow uncomfortable feeling as opposed to if we just hung out for a week and then shipped out well why is this being complimented it's the problem it's just we just it's just hectic it's just it's just more hectic to speed it up for no fucking reason it's not even for no reason the reason it's a negative reason the reason makes humans look stupid yeah well but like I don't know it's just like rags you gotta kill that huge bear it's coming right at you you have a pistol you're like okay and then I go actually when you got one bullet whoa actually got no bullets oh my god you are a genius of tension no it's like you found stopwatch and you wound it up and then you said oh my gosh look at the time you are you saying because the writers control everything or because the people in the film are they've subjected themselves to you know I'm talking about Phil Mentos point about writing he's saying like to have a situation become more tension filled is automatically just better like it's a godless of content yeah like it doesn't it doesn't matter in any way shape or form what you did to do that as long as you did that and so I'm just like how extreme can we push it like just everything just keeps getting more and more and more and more and more and more stressful I turn you into a baby and then the aliens pull out machine guns and they start listening to Bond Jovi and they're indestructible and then they start changing colors you reminded me of seven psychopaths he's describing his screenplay and he's like and then and then they have a shotgun and just pull it out and kill it everybody exactly as planned and thus Dan and the others have no choice but to jump to the future landing zone unprepared not the best way to do it yeah luckily we still have an army of adults he's about he's about to say he's about to say but then the jump goes wrong because he's gonna keep doing it that way it's like but at least we have X but then why at least we have an army of adults well you know we don't give them any armor or vests or anything the armor doesn't work the armor doesn't work I don't know why they give them these plate carriers maybe there's no actual plates in them they're just used for holding the magazine because you're gonna need 7000 rounds to kill an alien so you should probably bring some spare mags remember the scene where they grab spare mags from the dead bodies but that's never used in any way to convey information to the audience I do because I saw this movie fucking twice now my brain is mashed potato scrambled eggs well I'm just waiting for him to say like well at least they're still breathing but then like just because he's gonna pull a positive about it but then there's an asthma attack but at least their blood's still flowing oh no a stroke oh no quick with automatic rifles so at least there's still some hold but this is as dumb as it looks everybody this is so much well I do have the cover up but yeah this is like specifically done for it it exists for itself it didn't justify this in any fucking way it exists for itself just to be clear the movie opens up with this image of people falling through the sky and then it's like 6 weeks early or something like that the movie opens with the teaser of this scene occur yeah and me or Rez you don't need and me or Rez and me or Rez yeah so what happens here is that the time machine that they can't build but they did it sends them into the future but it messes up with the coordinates and so they fall into the air and that's that and now we're done an hour protagonist happens to survive because there was a skyscraper with a swimming pool at the top no he happens to survive because magically before he hits the cement he changes locations above the pool it's a trick of the camera they've aimed it so that it looks like he's not heading for the water but he totally is because that's filmmaking filmmaking look at that yeah they totally cheated totally fucking cheated we don't just land on the jump side but another guy falls on top of him in the water which would have killed him you saw how far they fell this is this is an and then plot and I hate these sorts of plots almost a compliment to the film yeah it does imply almost a sensical progression of events but it's really just and then this happens and then this happens and then this happens like you're making it up on the go it's like an 8 year old is describing their dream but they just want attention so they're making shit up on the spot as to what happened in their dream yeah because they realize halfway through you're not entertained and they're like fuck and then the skywalker and his next swing comes in and then the moon explodes and then that and then da da da and that's the plot it's like a 10 year old's fever dream of just events that occur loosely strung together that edge edit is harm grito tier I don't know what you mean grito shot first I believe it that's a mess that most of our army is just wiped out which isn't really ever properly explained but uncool level essentially makes this mission it is explained properly it is explained I can even steel main it's steel main steel man this my I'm sorry my brain is just getting confused with just life and you is the explanation it's a glitch it's a glitch it is a glitch for the computer they have the control room they're like oh no something's going wrong well it's it's I don't think it is it's something it's half an explanation there's like tiers of explanation one is that it's acknowledged in universe as a fault and something went wrong tier two would be what went wrong how it's just it's just the computer glitch right before and it's the self contained thing that happens for the sake of just a shocking visual that ultimately results in absolutely no change whatsoever to the plot and no like no one's ever upset about this no one references it it's just it's just for drama it's just a shock about you of seeing all these people fall out of the sky oh totally yeah well that's bad he's like yeah that is bad isn't that bad was it in the trailers I could believe it was in the trailers probably was probably instantly which isn't really ever properly explained but unconceptual level essentially makes this mission feel that much more dreadful they're like this is it on a conceptual level it still makes it feel more dreadful it's like I can do that any way that I want yeah this is the only way that it could have been done yeah if that's the bar I'll just have someone's leg full off in this scene oh my god there's eye pops out just electric wires are on the floor if you touch them you get electrocuted it's like how dreadful am I being here oh what else and then he's like oh no I have diabetes and then he explodes and then a beach ball bed says come here over here then he gets shot in the back by a raccoon and he's just like what is happening he's like it's dreadful there's dreadful things happening but then the raccoon evolves into Gyarados eats them all well not all of them he uses a fire based move just to keep you on your fucking toes did they ever explain that oh my god turns out his mother was a charmander damn possible because how the hell can we ever complete a task that has put us on life support already at the starting line and thus our heroes have no choice but depress on with their objective of retrieving a special team of I like how he says like how could we possibly do this but then we press all yeah I like to that one frigging hour watching this yesterday this whole I know there's only so many ways to say that the plot doesn't make sense but holy fuck the plot does not make sense they're given the task they're sent to the future they're not told why generally you give your soldiers here's what you're supposed to do so many fucking movies don't do that normally a thing you have soldiers just be aware of is their job they're sent into the future they land on the top of the building and the survivors of that calamity they are then told hey come in what's up and then they're told to go and collect a research team at a place because we're about to bomb it so you have to hurry up I'm the best here just hearing that again makes me want to have a seizure well here's the best part hold on to your fucking leader hose in there metal because they say they say that we evacuated everybody except for the research team go get the research team before we bomb the city yeah so the first question would be why didn't you leave with the arrest of them seeing as the future the people from the past that you've sent to get them have no transport you need to send people to get them in cars so what's the point why would they just leave with the rest of them guys nothing in this movie makes sense nothing nothing like this is the dumbest movie you wouldn't want to be too negative now would you someone said haha I missed that part dude Ryan I don't blame you I learned new things about how stupid this was the second time I watched it oh man did you watch a movie and discovered shit about it yeah that's something that happens constantly these days there's so much cringe that you can't possibly process at all it won't go you end up with 40,000 with script it's unfathomably stupid like if I watch this the third time which I'm not doing um I will find even more things I'm not doing it this is before the monsters find their way to the area which doesn't go as planned because the monsters are already in the area and have killed the scientists which they have every reason to already know because command center has like little bleeps and bloops where the monsters are moving how did humanity lose this war because they're dumb they should know they're here why else would they be bombing this place why are you bombing this place and why did you evacuate everybody except the research team that's the question why are you bombing it because we need it we need a ticking time bomb for tension because that's dramatic he's gonna use that as a plus he's gonna say that creates more dread with more bombs on the way because drama is the reason scientists meaning that we'll just have to collect the research ourselves and get the hell out of the script research collect the research like the intelligent card fast as possible with the monsters right on our tail and thus our heroes have no choice but to rush their way over to the Humvees but then the monsters destroy the Humvees but then the guy falls through the cracks and breaks his leg but then the thing the airstrike explodes it feels like we're barely scratching the surface of the power of storytelling what we just say something is supposed to happen but it doesn't quite happen that way but then it doesn't quite happen that way but then it doesn't quite happen that way and each of these ways that it changes are often negative thus creating issues for the characters like whoa fucking nuts dude extraction outside which doesn't go as planned because there is no more Humvee extraction meaning that we'll just have to fight our way out which doesn't make any sense it's really bulletproof for ages sometimes they're not it's like I was saying earlier the power level of these things is just if we're going to be frank none of the humans should have survived to get this far there's no fucking way if the plot wants them to survive they will and if it doesn't they won't and that's that there's no correlation between what your brain expects and what you see and what actually occurs also isn't helped by the fact that there's an incoming danger close airstrike that will end up right in the middle of it man increasing that dread but why is there an airstrike but why is there an airstrike because it just is you're just saying what's happening but you're not asking why it's happening everything about every why is stupid I suppose that's why he's not it's because it's all crazy let's assume that's his goal here I mean on a very basic level that at least they do that and that should be thumbsed up but really no I mean that's the thing he's about to conclude he's going to get through the whole plot saying this stuff and then surely he's going to conclude it's like at least it does that which is just like oh you know because every single event changing is supported by bullshit so it's just like so the idea that he is portraying himself as being I don't know if that's actually him or not no that's the meme video of the guy who's like trying to go away and keep on doing something so fast that he's losing his mind okay but if this makes you actually like that you just you're just a simpleton you're easy to fool you're easy to trick and you're why movies are going to be shit forever so there you go so he's not praising the execution like no just the concept of taking a situation and making it worse crazy they did a lot of that in underwater where was your praise for that huh and you should really keep an eye on this aspect of how the film continuously negatively alters the deal it has with you and the characters we go to capture the there's no deal don't this is right after what did I just say that the correlation between what you see and expect as logical outcomes and what actually happens are totally divorced from one another what the plot wants to happen will just happen and what it doesn't want to happen just won't happen and there's no rhyme or reason to any of it well do you think he's saying that was the deal they made that nothing would make any sense right at the beginning at the beginning the deal is none of this makes sense maybe until it made that deal and you should really keep an eye on this aspect of how the film continuously negatively alters the deal it has with you and the characters we go to capture the queen mother only to end up having to survive a giant horde of its underlings why is that impressive to you so aliens show up and again you're not even thinking about everything else that's happening like how many failures do they have to be on the side of the humans to allow that to happen and what does that say about how smart our main characters are and what are the consequences of that like as if there's no trade-offs for the decisions that you make in terms of ratcheting up the intensity you can't just do these things like there needs to be a justification for these things anything can happen at any time this is the movie where just anything can happen at any time for whatever it just happens this just watch the pretty colors movie they are pretty colors though we go in our safe ocean base only to find out that it isn't safe at all we go to a government to locate the aliens defying all logic and reason if you see those little drones with their guns they've read like thousands hundreds probably not thousands a lot of those aliens yeah well there's millions of the aliens with the keys just build like 20,000 of those drones in this time that you had and you're not good you're good golden just give everyone AK-47s they'd be better unironically but would it be for the aliens to have successfully destroyed 99% of humanity but these humans to constantly be successful so that's part of the issue that the world shouldn't have lost this fight it's difficult to accept the premise that humanity didn't annihilate just like a quiet place the same problem I don't accept the premise that a quiet place puts forth that these aliens just killed all of the earth when a shotgun to the face will destroy it I don't believe you this is why a lot of zombie movies deal with this in different ways when you just go there's a shambler oh god he's gonna bite one person then they have news reports of how it's spread it's like whoa yeah because the zombie outbreak ends when it gets to Arkansas when it gets to anywhere that has like it's not gonna spread but then they go okay actually no humanity can turn them into zombies that's how I do it the last part is a pretty good example a lot of people got sick before it was clear what the consequences would be a large number of people got sick and then it started to manifest that's the way you do it even fast zombies can't spread the zombie virus without getting like shorn of the dead at the realistic end they get shot that's it the idea that I toy with in my head is that before the outbreak actually happens very few people actually get sick because they're the very few whose immune system actually recognizes the virus as a bad thing and so they get super sick fighting it off and it's miserable and terrible so they go to the hospital with these weird things and the doctors don't know what's going on and those are the ones who live the people who turn into zombies and die their whole immune system doesn't even recognize that it's bad and so that's how it works just a little thought because you gotta mix it up how could this maybe happen what could we do to sort of change it up and also the zombies can't be slow because then they'll lose yeah to be left all on our own we go to infect the aliens in their sleep only to have to face off their process of waking up well there was a fight in the hallway for 10 seconds but I guess it's built on such stupidity it's just hard to take this seriously it's all built on it's super dumb let's see what he says in conclusion whatever events and plot beats this movie establishes it consistently has them go wrong in order also this scene queen got away how are you two alive the queen sees you and guards you in the middle and try and kill you so how did the queen get away from you how were you two alive and the queen got away how are those two things simultaneously occurring the queen seems to be obsessed with killing people we go lucky plot well plot beats this movie establishes it consistently has them go wrong in order to grow the obstacles and in turn reduce the boredom if everything that formula such a great formula like increase the obstacles and thus reduce the boredom establishes it consistently has them go wrong in order to grow the obstacles and in turn reduce the boredom one way to make me bored very quick is to just remove stakes I'm like yeah I don't care what happens I don't care about who it happens to or how it happens because the film doesn't care the film doesn't care I don't care boredom because if everything plays out just as you expected to then what's the point of watching it play out more in a second if it all goes the way you expected it to go then what's the point just like wow man you know an A team Hannibal would say I love it when a plan comes together and that was like his thing fuck that people hated that I hate it when a plan comes together yeah shit just can never work because it's not dramatic when plans are executed well that's why a lot of films do the thing where as the plan is being executed you have the audio flashback or whatever the time of them explaining the plan as they're carrying it out wow best of both worlds that's a cool idea that people can be using the thing what he's trying to get at I think is that when you have the final act plan is set and then there's no complications it would be like weird and I actually agree with him that if we saw a film run that way I'd be like huh everything went the way they hoped it would go yeah that's good usually as Ryze just said you'll do the style of here's the plan and then they cut to the day and we're like oh man what's the plan and then we see like ocean style we're just seeing things unload in a way sorry not oceans oceans is the other style where things do go wrong and then they have to recalibrate or move around to try and adapt to it the thing is what you're cracking into is difficult when you have a plan go wrong but they can still succeed in ways that we understand to be possible but we're still unaccounted for whatever just making things go wrong and they still win so anyone can do that but the idea is like in terms of advice for any writers that are listening right now they'd be like hmm how can I make my story better I wouldn't want to just have a plan succeed it's like make things go wrong and they still win like oh man make things go wrong in ways that you could be like yeah I guess that could have happened and have their solutions be things that make you go yeah that makes sense that that would be their solution yeah cause that one guy they have he's really good at impersonating a bartender so he could pretend to be you know that one guy they set this up they set this concept up and I see I can almost predict what will happen right before it happens so I go I've been rewarded for paying attention that's a nifty concept rewarding being there yeah maybe that's asking a bit much yeah I hate it instead you should just gotten to create conflict and drama by making things go wrong boredom because if everything plays out just as you expected to then what's the point of watching it play out at all I'm gonna fight back against that one I uh there's a lot of journey not destination stuff that happens in the viewing experience you know how when someone makes an argument that sounds pretty good on paper but they don't realize how it like it's tendril stretch into other areas that they wouldn't want it to so for example this he's you'll be top dog for this so the argument he just made would be valid in terms of me never rewatching a movie what would be the point I know how it's all gonna go what's gonna happen I know so there's no point now and if you know nobody believes that to be true there's probably some someone out there who's like I've only seen movies once I've seen them again okay I guess but um I'm not one of those people you know plots being executed like if you have a bank heist plan or an army is executing a military strategy or really just anything any plan it can go as planned with great difficulty and stress like never locker or here's our plan to defuse the bomb yeah that's right we're fucking defusing bombs this is a tense sequence well um watching people who are talented at their work do it successfully is also pretty good like I think of John Wick where it's like in his opening scene in his house I'm pretty sure everyone knows he's gonna win um watching him execute it's pretty damn cool and again this comes into the whole rewatching but if I said to you before you get to watch that scene it's like oh man he lives people attacking in his house and he fucking kills them all cause he's like one of the most talented assassins ever now if you were to able if you liked me enough to say why you just spoiled that you just leave that alone okay I'm excited to see you you'd still probably enjoy the scene because the action is that good um yeah I remember when John Wick was good I do I was fucking in love with that first film and then I went to the cinema for the second one I did not go to the cinema for the third and I won't be going for the fourth I might will so I can talk about it yeah um what he said sounds good but it stretches into other things and you'd have to make arguments to save those and then you'd be saving this so it's just like it's not gonna work it is not what we call applicable useful advice it's like a platitude a writing platitude almost yeah and I think it works I can't really do anything with this well it's kind of how video assayists work a lot of them appeal to like the room they go we all know we all agree right like action is way more entertaining than a scene with people talking yeah and most people yeah yeah yeah and then one guy is like well I mean what if it's half and half and then some other guy goes well what if it's just what's wrong with talking it's like well he's more boring than action right it's like not really what if it's like what if it's a person bartering for their life Steve Jobs the movie is just people talking to each other and it's far more riveting and intense than anything in the tomorrow yeah um and so that's what you like that nails it the whole like sounds like a good argument it's not a good argument nor is it good advice oh man would have been so boring if they'd actually done it successfully and I never especially especially in this part where I thought the movie was already over like an hour ago oh yeah still going when you think the movie's gonna end and then you realize oh we have like 15 minutes left to go and you're like really confused you wonder what like what we're done right no we have to undo the second act and then wrap up the movie with an extra movie yeah with a different solution because we're so stupid and wake everything up with our needles and then we just blow everything up and that worked perfectly fine also imagine explaining to the rest of the human race yeah we found an intact alien spaceship we blew it up it's like you did what now oh we exploded it with c4 and you'd be like was there anything we could learn from it before you decided to blow it all up it's just like well we couldn't find out cause we accidentally pissed off the aliens inside it yeah we kind of went in there we walked everywhere not there were alien specimens inside of it we were shockingly well preserved actually two different ones the ones we fought only cargo there was like two different aliens in there was this spaceship capable of like fucking interstellar travel and they're like really if it got here so I mean oh well oh well anyway credits what were you guys up to how was nato doing we're alright I guess if you have a time job mission take a turn for the worse due to a malfunctioning teleporter for example then maybe you should also establish why did the teleporter actually malfunction oh so we are is that gonna be what he does now is explain how they're all stupid what I hope so I mean props to him if he does I guess but but I don't see how this won't go against his I don't know which generally has me excited but now I'm just I'm a little excited we'll see what he does things can't go wrong just because you want them to because the audience will see through that but when done right this method of negatively altering the deal is one of the cornerstones of riding out your property wait but is he suggesting this was an example of it being done right this particular scene I mean I don't know or is he saying I guess we'll find out oh I don't think the planes oh so much for our optimism that's what we get we did this to ourselves we should have known better we should have known better we should have known better that's it same way with Hasan you gave him way too much credit and he rewards you as you should expect go strapped does that mean the second key positive to take here is the way this film crafts a very easily distinct and memorable identity for itself a very easily distinct and memorable identity for itself god damn it one of the most stupidest things I've ever seen yeah it's true it was also just the salad that's word salad so many words that he didn't need to use the second key positive to take here is the way this film crafts a very easily distinct and memorable identity for itself very easily very easily those are two very redundant words those are two very redundant words that was stupid they're both redundant words very easily and distinct is that what he said very easily and distinct yeah identity for itself very easily distinct and memorable identity okay that's what he said yeah it's incredibly generic it's like when you tell people just be unique or be yourself you don't have a choice you have to be yourself so it's not useful information really you have to expand on that like you should just this movie is great because it has its own unique identity you can have a unique identity and it's horrible and also a unique identity and it's great like we have our lord of the rings trilogies and we have our tomorrow wars they're both unique but damn the quality gap is massive when he cut the phone out he cut the thumb with it a finger I think that's because he cut it over it so what you do is you use photoshop to make it look like you didn't do that or you just have it be a still frame and you zoom in slowly or or you just don't do this at all because it's not hey you thought it was awesome you were like aww that's so cool I heard you actually what I said to Fringy yesterday when we were watching it was why did they have to fake this image well that's a great question for all kinds of technology and all kinds of films they always have a green screen I guess it's complicated because it's like glare and stuff like that and it might be that you don't have the graphics done yet it's a safer way to do it it's definitely easier I feel like you could just make a screenshot it would be cool if it were real just show it, yeah just make a screenshot and have it be on the phone and then just have him hold up the phone and if for whatever reason the camera can't see it you just say we'll just do it again or because you're going to cut in and out of it anyway just have him holding it up to the screen and moving around just a little bit like there's a lot of different ways to make this work that are really easy and simple and very cheap I don't involve green screens and computer effects that make it look fake yeah which would end up costing quite a bit of money I would just want to go the direction of you know you try to do it all with like a real app created to simulate it for the movie and then maybe you record the scene again but with a green screen one just in case things go catastrophically wrong with that prop you made and the app you made and stuff I don't know that comic and word of its original script title ghost draft that I by the way still remember a couple years after reading to introduce the point I'm trying to make look at the relationship Dan has with this estranged father who we meet for the first time after Dan's been I don't remember is that he isn't some random person but is that in terms of this story actually very specific what was that what did he say he oh boy what a senate that senate is to film in tow I'm just happy that it's not just me and my ramp and alcohol abuse from yesterday that's confused I don't understand what you're saying the beer steins too hard he is that sentence is so beautifully film in tow you know I've been doing a lot of recordings lately for the video this on its way and sometimes I'll read a sentence and it doesn't come out quite well I'm trying to figure out I've been drinking as well by the way trying to figure out if it's because of the way the words come together and how my accent all the way I deliver them is the problem but often times just slowed down a little bit and it comes out way clearer I was like ah that was it I just needed more time for the words to breathe he does not do that he just keeps on talking real fast and sometimes I don't even catch what words he's using I would say that English is like his fifth language but he's not, I don't think he's smart enough to learn four other languages he just doesn't strike me as an intelligent person who constructs sentences speaking to us hard enough I don't know what he said I can't write that down remember the rule I established this a while ago I said if you want me to gadelb something you have to include the quote in your gadelb suggestion alright and then if I see it just open the notepad and roll your head over your keyboard a couple of times is this a are these random words chosen from a dictionary by a computer algorithm or is this a fomento quote who knows his father isn't a random character he's someone very specific I think that was a condensed version of what you said let's do it two or three times look at the relationship Dan has with his estranged father who we meet for the first time after Dan's been drafted what you'll quickly notice about the father is that he isn't some random person but in terms of this story actually very specific you know what he probably wanted to make you know I think about all the time what he's trying to say is he's not a random character he's a random character to us but for these guys it's just like I thought he was saying he can do the things and he has a plane I thought he was trying to say that he's not just a character we will meet as a result of him being his father he's someone who's important to this whole world that tends to be just how stories work though the characters you made from more important their utility in this scene this character is going to be involved in the plot yeah that's all that's been said but even then it's like I often tell I know often times I go to my father and I say thanks for not just being some random person but for being the person who impregnated my mother with what would become me in raising me thanks so much that you're just that person and not some random other guy you're not that guy over there he looks like a shitty dad that guy over there I hate that guy how come that random person who just walked past and he's not my dad explain yourself don't make sense to me some random person in terms of this story he's a much more specific person I know how this works I love these scripts they're amazing someone said the dad wasn't a part of the plot he had no specific skills outside of flying the plane no he had involvement in the plot could you have written him out and found other ways to do it sure the problem with the relationship between the dad and what's his name Chad Dennis Chris Pratt I just I just Chad just came the difference between Chad and dad and Chad is that their relationship is bizarre when we watch this again Fringy and I notice that the way that they interact with each other their takeaways from conversations just how they behave with each other fucking weird just weird yeah it's just a bizarre relationship I even hesitate to call it a relationship it's almost it's just plot fuel is all it really is I was in a very dark place it would have been worse for you and your mom why these sound effects are everything that I'm not sure why he's doing that you're like don't beat us over the head with war noise when he's talking about his traumatic return from Vietnam I thought he was trying to make a joke or something I thought he was being earnest see we instantly had two different totally opposite completely honest because I don't know where the fuck we're going with this I thought he was about to like reveal that we get all this history about Nam and then it's not relevant and that's the switch or something I don't fucking know the movie is that it isn't actually relevant because I was going to say the result of this conversation his dad seems to really open up to him in a meaningful way at least on what little interaction we have and Chad's response is just don't ever talk to me or my daughter ever again you're never going to be a part of your life bye and we're just like what the fuck how is that your reaction like what the fuck I'm sorry I have to share this with you guys just fucking look at the costumes it's a fucking joke dude it's not real it's not real it's unreal it's like this looks like the setup to an orgy I thought Supergirl ended is it only recently finished filming I just started this can't be real that like honestly looks like a porno thing exactly it really does they're just going to start sucking and fucking and scissoring and that balcony man it's just going to be the happen in place so fucking cheap Jesus look at the guy look at him look at the agreement what are these poses he looks like a character from Futureama or something who's in what episode the pose the pose he's making is great his face his face speaks regret he looks like an oblivion npc he looks like a mind and he's hiding behind a pillar an invisible pillar that's his hero face I wonder what his powers are is he a green lantern or something no it's braniac's green is he like someone in chat must be a fan of Supergirl and knows guys what's the one on the right not the one on the far right the one in the middle the weird helmet is that meant to be like a hawk girl but there's no wings I was about to say her helmet reminds me of the hawking one but wings probably cost money they're attractable when the CGI budget bring it out they magically go away whenever she doesn't need them because fuck me that would be either an awkward looking prop or CGI and that shit costs money yeah that does cost money none of that here you feel bad it's like this is the one I'm working on couldn't have been the other one everybody loves superhero stuff right now and this is my superhero show this is the one I got you know what I'll throw a bone I will throw them a bone and say bravo to them because they remembered to make his hands green that's true that seems like a mistake that would happen on the CW they just do his face and they forget his uncovered hands are still like white people colored so they just forget and then they have to make a law reason for that my transformation is only 16% complete I begin with the face man we should write these shows we nail it we're exactly what they're looking for Huxley hold up someone just sent me this image it's a southpaw sent me this why am I computer being slow that's very strange well I'm getting pretty fucking sleepy oh similar parts yeah is that on purpose oh is it like referencing them or something maybe power rangers power rangers looks less cheap yes wow discord is being slow right now power ranger power ranger go go go I'm going to be frank I think that the power rangers in space and this relationship as a whole I really like the power rangers in space same wait I can't pause it what do you mean it is paused well I heard it a bunch and then I tried to pause it and it just it wasn't showing up as a thing is your internet flippin on you I hope not I can still hear everybody it's just that for whatever reason discord was something was acting a little slow so it's very strange everything's scrolling through like normal is the video pulled to you it is now yes what's the time now 738 yes it would have been worse for you and your mom so yeah the father and this relationship as a whole very specifically revolves around the core topic of him being a Vietnam war veteran and the consequences of it and keeping this in mind if we now jump into the future and look at the relationship between dad and his now grown up is he trying to say it reflects his relationship with his daughter daughter for example you can see that it's about the exact same thing only with the role swapped throughout the future storyline there's this weird underlying conflict between these two to the point where Dan for some reason just can't get close to his daughter no matter how he tries which ultimately is revealed to be due to the fact that she blames him for the exact same thing he blames his dad for oh god it was so late the other problem was like nobody believes that he would have done what they tell us he did it's like oh just say that he did oh it's like yeah but he just did I just look at this like how far did they fucking drive this no fucking tree in sight and no aliens had no aliens yeah just realize because should there be like some woods or something they they they drive through woods right when they escaped or them remembering that they did I think yeah there was like a lot of aliens it was just past the horizon you could use just can't see it it's just over there on the little island somewhere you left us bullshit I know for a fact I would never leave you yeah that's what I thought you just never I have a leadership experience I ran compact you never seemed happy with your life is he desperately trying to link the two relationships yeah well I think the film thinks that it's their link I think that that's what the film believes to be the case but what what is in the movie doesn't it's just it's really really thin very thin we have two different relationships between three different characters built under the same banner in a way that they can join together to progress that one thing you don't have to remember multiple individual characters and relationships all you have to remember God forbid remembering multiple characters and relationships in nightmare is the single identity they all serve and it's this core topic identity and the consequences of it that this entire movie revolves around to the point where it's basically one big I'm my for whatever reason like my I just yeah just hold on a second my computer is being really slow with this shit for whatever reason like my memory my 16 gigs of memory was just that like running at 95% capacity because of like a Google Chrome and decided it was gonna I don't know just be Google Chrome in me just my brain is melting I can't like it's just I don't understand what we're talking about it feels like we're just gross we get straws here yeah like so the relationship between the father and his son it's like stressed by military service and abandonment there is a similar issue plaguing he and his daughter it's just like a cool give me just one second I'm gonna quit discord and open it back again and join up the call all right what if he can't open it back up oh there he goes Raghu he's gone Barling Barling Jay put out a tweet three hours ago this is and yes Hassan that is your hand well done kink shock kink shock kink shock yeah it's unfair like come on kink shock tried so hard I assume I haven't actually seen it but he looks like he's probably gonna get up to some mischief and I did see him eat somebody in the trailer so delicious molar is a twitter is confirmed well you know I'm just scrolling through doing doing me a good scroll while we wait and see if rags is gonna live did the thing happen did he actually like rebooted it broke rags I don't want to be I don't want to be stuck on this video forever rags please no I don't either we'll just care there is he's missing nothing there he is rags you okay seems to be for whatever reason I don't know my computer was just fucking chugging for whatever reason it just decided it would all of a sudden be that way like I don't feel like discord should use like I know I'm gonna I know I'm in a call but discord was using like almost a fucking gig of memory that's that's not right mine is using 190 yeah mines 183 right now so yeah something along those lines in a call I'm like okay you know that's the but it for whatever reason it was seriously using like 985 to a like a gig memory and my memory was at 95 percent usage with chromon for whatever I don't know what discord was fucking doing but it's like yeah lol we're gonna I don't know do whatever we're doing so let me open up the watch together and get back into that cuz I don't know it's everything just crawled to a halt for some reason that's very bizarre wow devastating dragon bulls he missed it had to go on he's got it he's got to go to dinner and so all I did was open up the watch together link and google chrome has 18 instances and it's at 550 megabytes of usage hmm what a what a world that's fine now I got plenty memory for it it's just it's just weird that it all of a sudden decided to be like hey I could use all of it to the point where it's basically one big futuristic science fiction allegory of the Vietnam war what it's an allegory for the Vietnam war what how was that how was it an allegory yeah the vietnam you know the equivalent of giant aliens what in the world are you saying what are you smoking that's that is absolutely ridiculous that is such a relief that he said that that's insane so like the his father referencing vietnam basically amounts to absolutely nothing there's no reason for it to get mentioned it's just it doesn't amount to anything and then he creates these connections like this is like oh yeah the whole movie is like an allegory for the vietnam war and like that's a thing that you say is a parody how can you possibly say that about this film like you know what the vietnam war with all of its complexities you know it's about as straightforward as a horde of aliens I can't believe he showed this this is what it means it's like someone's probably going to be like see it satire it's like oh my god I need a cheat code at this point because I cannot fucking tell we have unfit civilians being forcibly called up to arms to fight an invisible war that masses protest as none what do you mean invisible war is it not an allegory for the iraq war or the war in afghanistan or like any number of wars that people protested I'm annoyed at how low the bar for allegory is it's lame yeah the bar for allegory is people get drafted to go to a war that people oppose so all wars there's a mouse that has to battle a cat it's vietnam I don't understand it is I have a ficus in my living room it's basically an allegory for the vietnam war stop it please stop it not ours a war that in actuality is going so terribly that the full extent of it has to be censored it's fucking vietnam war was not censored though the vietnam war was known what it was that's why so many people were opposed to it also tell me which war has both sides revealing every aspect of it during the war why would I see it's vietnam specifically we have pictures or videos that would help us to know what we're up against the war in the future is good and well and will succeed what how do you possibly draw these lines I'm lost again I can't oh yeah like vietnam war was not censored it's like yeah that's why people were opposed to it because they saw what was actually happening so it's completely disanalogous maybe it's the you know beyond the big alien like horde the alien horde that needs to be exterminated it's everything else it's like oh I feel like the big party missed beyond the alien horde is like so the issue with vietnam was it was like a war about like politics specifically like about you know spears of influence around the world the future war in this film is about saving humanity as we know it it's not I what is this meme what's this meme you know you know what's great about this meme is and correct me if I'm wrong chat but it's most people who haven't seen the office don't know what the actual like meme format actually is so the the joke I'm pretty sure is that the girl on the bottom is setting up the scenario on the top where she's gonna show pictures to a person and the person has to figure out the difference and then she says they're the same picture that's the joke is that they can't tell that it's decree right the meme I think so yeah the meme has now evolved into like I can picture people are probably like she's the dumb ass who thinks that they're the same thing like the context of the meme is actually very different from how a lot of people probably understand what's happening in the meme still fucking works great either way it's just interesting to me to think about like when you read it from the other end so yeah back to Vietnam yeah if you guys have anything else to say about Vietnam because obviously it would come up when talking about the tomorrow war naturally it's on PTSD we touch on you know we go to another period of time that may as well be a different planet we have is this I don't know it's not is that the real Vietnam it's like a different planet you know it's completely fucking invalid if we're literally going to be like a hellscape war zone you know it's kind of like a different place than my comfy suburbs like yes like all wars nice yesterday civilians making the ultimate sacrifice for causes they don't even fully understand we have they know what the cause is they know what the cause is it's not the same as Vietnam it's not Vietnam I mean I doubt you're being so based is to say that if communism wins it's the extinction of humanity I assume that's not what you meant but yeah the people here know exactly what they mean they mean like the aliens and like I mean it's been years of doing this stuff it's like yeah we're trying to stop the end of the world I like the idea that someone's like I think something else is going on the aliens are actually trying to help us it's a little bit different from like a proxy war from the fucking cold war enemies are so unlike us that they're basically an alien race what like the beat what like asians is that what you meant an alien race like you know those same guy folk fucking pump the brakes my dude Jesus you can't say that what what the damn god fucking hell this video just got fucking amazing what did he say exactly what's the coin let's get it the ultimate sacrifice for causes they don't even fully understand we have enemies that are so unlike us that they're basically an alien race we have enemies that are so unlike us that they're basically an alien race dude oh my goodness why would you say this what are you talking about Vietnam the war that was fought between people that was one of my favorite video as they quote ever an enemy is in relation to Vietnam an enemy so unlike us they're basically an alien race that's amazing I can't believe he wrote that he said that I guess I'm just wondering how we can catch that it's like wait a minute I'm talking about like human beings like actual human beings just like me when we talk about racism it's just like a joke it doesn't actually mean anything and it goes under the assumption that it isn't true and it's just playing opposite of each other like racism is bad but he says this shit and he's like you know what I'm making a damn good point I just feel like he made a mistake he made a really big mistake he pulled a Quentin with the Ewoks is what he did he did a Quentin with the Ewoks someone in chat said wow we're not even a different species we're an alien race yeah we can't even get the credit of being a different species we have to be from another place and of course it's kind of amusing to say this about the people who were invaded rather than like the uh dude I fucking love the idea there's someone out there in the Vietnam wall it was like you know he's Vietnamese I'm not sure they're from Earth I'm not sure that they're from Earth they're from the planet Vietnam they're like just sitting over food and everyone looks at the guy it's like what the fuck are you saying it's like it's like ah see he's got cuckoo he's been in too long there's too many layers to this video I have no fucking clue what's satire what's uh honest but that quote was phenomenal this video for me is like I wanted to sleep like an hour ago but this video is so bizarre it's so surreal I'm so fucking tired it makes it even funnier I have to see where this journey takes us it's making the ultimate sacrifice for causes they don't even fully understand we have enemies that are so unlike us that they're basically an alien race hey did you hear that is he oh my god the aliens are speaking Vietnamese it seems like actually playing the alien speaking Vietnamese is that what's happening here maybe I so the we're at the point where I don't know if he is making an incredibly edgy joke or he is this unaware of what he's fucking doing I want to I want him to the reason that stairwell and he shines light up at the alien it just says gee I go home oh no American oh no American they sent a boy to like man wall this is so insensitive what else to say yeah and the point I'm trying to get across isn't necessarily that one all-encompassing identity automatically improves your why did you do this why did you why what did you do I just have to be mad here I take this but why but why though also I'm pretty sure that was all by accident I'm pretty sure he did not to say the things that he said I don't think he did mean to do that it's just a big mistake that he didn't pick up on God is so good I can believe he's dumb enough that he didn't even know that this is totally a character I would love to write a character like this where they just so like just dull when it comes to understanding the shit that they say that you just have so it have to listen to be like what the fuck and he's just like you know it's kind of interesting when you look at movies this way and see the allegories Asian people they're kind of like aliens why would you say that why would you do this why so that it can be a real help at improving it it's easier for you not to get lost writing all the different aliens and time machines and characters when all of it ultimately has to serve the same purpose it's easier for the audience not to get lost watching it all when what they see essentially is the same larger thing in different smaller forms wow I looked at it I heard it and I have no fucking idea what you're doing I know exactly what he said I'm in tune with him he's the first point first point way easier to follow stuff when all of the stuff leads to the same end as in you know if Fringy has a gun I have a car and Rags has a ship and all use them to destroy an alien race that's easy to follow no variables outside of destroying secondly if all of your separate ideas plot lines characters and stuff kind of relate on the same theme that's also easy to follow and what he's talking about there is the whole abandonment stuff and the Vietnam allegories for alien Asians it all comes together at the end you understand it easily excellent points both of them you wouldn't want a complicated story with multiple payoffs at the end that would be get out of here with that multiple themes or multiple points being made yeah you're all silent because I was so right about all of what I just said you bet let's move on well Fringy doesn't get overwhelming so long as they all ultimately lead to the same destination has way too many characters and storylines to no no no no let him finish his point I know exactly what his point is going to be no that's not the problem with game of thrones you fucking idiot that's never been the problem how do you talk about the show like the problem is too many people with had that many people at it's height and it's fucking lowest how what do you think happened I was just too many characters that's what it was the excess of strings doesn't get overwhelming so long as they all ultimately lead to the same destination game of thrones has way too many characters and storylines to even count but at the end of the day what's the one ultimate all-encompassing thing they all in some form end up revolving around if Dan's relationship with his he's gonna mean the throne but I thought the whole point of the film was leading to the idea he made the opposite argument which is actually worse he's saying that hey it doesn't matter how many characters there are in game of thrones because it all ended up being about the throne it's like dude the last episode was all about the throne everyone hated it the whole season it's not about ending all storylines with one thing that's just not about that at all what horrible advice you know what game of thrones saved game of thrones for being critically trashed was making it all about the throne in the last episode that didn't piss every person off that they went yeah Brad you can have it you have a good story that's how you can dominate popular culture for a fucking decade and now everyone laughs at you if they even remember you existed in the first place God I thought he was making a different better point but still horrible why how do you talk about game of thrones why would you bring up game of thrones like the positives of its ending when it's like hated for that by everybody no one likes it that's the thing nobody likes it it's just how would you do this to me his father is about the topic and the relationship with his daughter about a whole other topic that separates the movie into two different halves but if the purpose of one relation the met all encompassing thing they all in some form end up revolving around if dance relationship with his father is about one topic and the relationship with his daughter about a whole other topic that separates the movie into two different I like memed about this five minutes ago I said oh gosh imagine there was two separate points and he's literally saying like you know if there was two separate points we wouldn't be able to follow this point like this isn't how could you possibly say that like a story can't be about more than two things at once one thing once actually yeah like as if you do two or more plot threads that that's not okay it doesn't like they don't man I feel like we need to go right back to fundamentals before we can start like Fringy that's an awfully big word could you calm down we gotta go back basics big little basic building blocks alright he's just someone chat thank you for reminding me game of thrones wasn't even fucking about the thrones the point was to be about life not the thrones that all storylines would lead to defending against the white walkers winter destroying summer and bringing cold and death to everybody forever and the everyone was like you know what fucking chair not really important and like the last season convinces you that no lol actually it is about the thrones and like he took very important he took that and then said like that's a plus that all the storylines lead to it's like oh you're wrong in like every possible way why do you fuck this up so much and then you say like man as if a story was about two things at once you know that's not happening nobody's gonna be able to fucking pay attention to that follow along why cowboys versus Vietnamese people cowboys versus aliens you know what it could be fun you have to involve some time travel i guess you could have more modern cowboys you'll be fine purpose of one relationship is for the child to learn to forgive their father for sins beyond their control and the purpose of the other the exact same thing now you have one whole movie which way too often isn't the case so don't take it to granted literally all he said is the two character relationships that are significant in this movie relate to similar problems they mirror each other so that's that's good you wouldn't want it don't do that yeah you wouldn't want it to be that there's two relationships that are about two different things ugh yeah i can't have that buffy's pretty shit you know having all these relationships that are about different things they should all be about one thing any reference came with Rhodes it's like well it all went to the Rhodes it's like it's about like a million things mm-hmm find the one control identity you want your movie to be and then at least to some extent to build everything and everyone around it in order to give the audience something easily someone just reference lord the rings yeah how does he deal with lord the rings this is like oh my god there's so many things happening at once but it's about a ring it all leads to the ring that's why it's good it's all about a ring going in a thing in the mountain it all leads to the rings it's fine it is thing to know and feel and remember man so dramatic what's it gonna be what's the editing gonna be when it's created oh no oh no i like how you don't even know it implies he doesn't even know this is scary what do you anticipate the points gonna be time lines um oh let's see are we gonna are we gonna try and guess what he's gonna talk about in terms of timelines there's a compliment no what could possibly be complimented because this doesn't have timelines it has timeline a timeline and this if you if you like reset it then the the old timeline just never happened it just stops existing you can't go to it anymore i assume is how it works um so yeah this isn't like oh we created a separate timeline and that's the thing that we could travel to or whatever but no it's like you have to go back and stop this from even happening so i don't know i know i don't i got nothing i don't know what he's gonna say the third passive course on the learn here today is how this movie unites its two timelines of present oh i'm nervous i'm scared i'm scared mm-hmm rags is correct it is not two timelines as they established in the film they are concurrently running that it's like a portal between them or some shit um it don't make no sense but it is one timeline so every aspect imaginable in a way that i can only wish assassins for example had done oh so that's real that's awkward because like assassins i don't know about the movie maybe the movie movie's bad like they're directly connected because the whole point is that you're learning things from the past that will help you right now how is that not way better it's like a fundamental connecting thing than what they have in this movie like the whole idea is hey you go back as etio you follow his story you can piece together clues that will help us right now i just you can use his knowledge to help us now i don't got any context being like you know what this other movie should have done what the tomorrow war did with time no i feel like there's no way you could have done it there's no movie that improves by having the tomorrow war's fucking time system in it certainly not a drama to introduce a very obvious way the first thing you'll notice is that the timelines don't exist in a vacuum but instead share a clear relationship of course in effect no they don't they do not share a relationship of course the whole point that they they try and justify that specifically how it doesn't work in order to make things make sense this movie is a giant black monolith that stands in opposition to the concept of cause and effect yeah i think we've um we've more than got past that sort of point i just mean the movie is like we can't do a lot of the obvious stuff for time travel because like the don't they make it clear at one point that the timelines are constantly like running forward they're connected now they almost want to make you think that once the timelines done in the future that's it and the past is like left as if we can't just do it again exactly doesn't make sense i can totally believe that they have no fucking idea what they're talking about and the story that they made i totally believe it yeah yeah that's sound good the first thing you'll notice is that the timelines don't exist in a vacuum instead share a clear relationship what the fuck was that editing you're right i don't know who that is i who is that i guess principal weiner died and this is like the the shrine and he's trying to say like that randy could have been principal weiner the only person who couldn't be randy was the dad that's right he's super special it's an effect when the military begins drafting people to fight in the future it's not like the present just remains as is obviously when people come from the future the present does not remain as is what does that even mean though that's really good that's really good but that's what weird if you had someone from the future show up to the past and no one cared nothing changed as a result this sentence just is broke is like the present remains the present never remains as is what does that even mean like it we have to react to what happens as it's happening it's just like when you introduce someone from the future it's like yes that's gonna have a major impact yes no the war has clear evolving consequences on how people behave what they value how they view their the war has an impact on what people value war has an impact on society this is good writing it's like this is what I would expect but okay again our baseline is like Jesus just things that happen affect things like chat you have to understand this is frustrating that he's praising the movie for saying that when the future people came from the future to the present to tell present people that there's a war that they have to be drafted for in order to fight that this made society change in the present and that's a plus that's good it's not competent it's not the middle way it's good it is above average like they're a future anything school grades college it's a boss yeah the aliens kill us all very obvious and obviously you could do a bit more with it than just one montage and one scene but still on conceptual level incredible so that was like a okay you just why did you put it over conceptually it's good conceptually it's okay it's fine I just wonder how far we can drill it down it's like conceptually storytelling is good conceptually having conceptually having a character yell at another character thereby making the other character sad they didn't do much with it but conceptually it's good it's like man just like also having an event it's like that's pretty good yeah having an event occur that affects the characters that's you know they didn't do much with it because it was conceptually good please end this misery yeah the aliens kill us all very obvious and obviously you could do a bit more with it than just one montage and one scene but still on conceptual level incredibly essential in crafting a world of two concurrent timelines incredibly essential as opposed to not really that essential I'm sorry these sentences are too long these sentences are so long quite as many words as you need for half the meaning as you think they have you forget the first half by the time you understand the second yeah basically it feels like the sentence should be over but it just keeps going and then it becomes really difficult to understand what exactly you're trying to say in good communication what you want to do is you want to have the so when you talk to someone you're reverse mind reading right the key here is that you're trying to get your thoughts into someone else's brain and because we understand language and words and we put them together and we've had so much practice to soak up and absorb words and their meanings generally people will be deciphering what you're saying this guy just talks too much I don't understand what he's saying if you're you have a really confusing structure to your sentence people are like lagging behind and they can't keep up because they're trying to decipher what you mean but it takes them so long because you phrase things oddly so they miss all the stuff you're saying it's like you just get this backlog of info that people can't keep up with let me I'm going to read you this sentence just to illustrate what Wright has pointed out so he says very obvious and obviously it's like what done great so far four letters it four words in and like we've already reused one word twice and obviously you can do a bit more with it than just one montage and one scene but still on a conceptual level incredibly essential in crafting a world of two concurrent timelines that the audience can actually buy into dude what like stop pause break full stop please but he's talking about timelines watch tomorrow more two times and have some flashbacks can buy into as another showcase you have for example Laplatte which doesn't exist as two variables in both timelines but instead as one central constant that both timelines work together to progress what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck just like so should we even bother or should we just keep rolling your reaction made it feel like this is like the Lovecraftian vision of a video where Rag sees it and he's just saying what the fuck over and over and over again I caught chat all I've reached a level of Nevada now I can understand everything you said so all he had to say was both timelines work on the same issue thus making it easy to follow that's all he had to say now I would like you to listen to what he actually said then just one montage and one scene but still on conceptual level incredibly essential in crafting a world of two concurrent timelines that the audience can actually buy into as another showcase you have for example Laplatte which doesn't exist as two variables in both timelines but instead as one central constant that both timelines work together to progress all you needed to say was so the plot despite taking place into realities is fundamentally about the same thing I think you've even gone further than you needed to do this both timelines work on the same problem it's just that the plot is related to itself yeah basically he just like that's all he said it's like he basically said a tautology a thing is related to itself stop saying g'delb you have to add a quote I'll kill you I'll ban you like a son they can't put you in higher higher swatter I don't care how many ones you feed I don't even see what she says get out there oh jeez alright let's push through the objective turns out to be to develop this toxin that we can use to kill all the aliens which at the very end of that timeline we succeed at developing thus unlocking the chance for us to win except we don't do you understand how many how many sentences that could have been instead of you could have had one really short sentence it could have been zero and he couldn't have made the video at all and we could have just gone home you listen to this also you're out of breath when he's done g'delb the recent sentence so the whole reason I need you to write it down is because I don't know what the fuck he said what is the recent sentence do you think he's going to talk about the fact that the toxin is fucking meaningless no it doesn't amount to anything it has no impact on the plot whatsoever the important information was just finding where the aliens started that was the important part do you think that the film recognizes that it made her quote unquote sacrifice and life's work just meaningless just upload this video call it content which is why g'delb exists as a format all he had to say was they developed the toxin in the future to be used in the past that is the point he wanted to make okay we have issues with that point that's all he had to say instead he said other things lots of other things our main objective turns out to be to develop this toxin that we can use to kill all the aliens which at the very end of that timeline we succeed at developing thus unlocking the chance for us to win except we don't do you see what I mean like he took so long he's only done the first half as well by the way I said all of this in like 8 words or something it was 10 maybe wait what soundtrack is he using right now it's not from this film is it I'm pretty sure it is from the movie the movie has an incredibly generic I was about to say it sounds super generic I was like I'm not sure if he's just a stunt one Inception was, it uses Inception was like 5 years after we moved on from that train surely it's been more than 5 years since that right it's been like 10 now I think what I told Fringy when we were watching it was this movie's music and sound effects is like kitchen nightmares yeah it is it's very over dramatic and it doesn't fit it's like really it's amped up more so than it needs to be wait is this Inception soundtrack no this is an Inception soundtrack because Inception soundtrack sounds better than this I feel like that's an insult almost to Inception soundtrack I can't remember the soundtrack of this movie all I remember from Inception is the blooms that's why I'm getting confused that's true but this is I think there's a little touch because it's um oh my god I can't people in chat are saying it is the Inception soundtrack is it is it really oh okay it doesn't sound like it Fringy is wrong again alright I get it I'm sorry it apparently it is Inception time to ban Fringy no wait I'm sorry are they sure that it's the dream collapsing part I'm pretty sure that sound are different well no worry about playing it because of uh copydism no we need to rewind hold on I need to know is this actually Inception I don't want to play too much okay I'm pulling up Inception dream collapsing I'm pretty sure no I'm pretty sure that Inception sounds different to that in fact yeah now oh let's see the dream collapsing sounds it sounds similar but it's different you need to rename this eFap to the dream collapsing yeah like people are not saying it's not that I oh man it is it is not I'm upset now I feel like a big gaslet hold on we need to rewind it a bit they can't be gaslighting if they think they're right by the way while you guys are discussing this I just want to point out this lonely island in the chat right now that I just saw oh my god he's all the way back in the opening 20 minutes Barney buddy dude oh man oh man you have so much to go through wow he didn't even mention the gnome kick being clearly the most powerful of the animal kingdom no Barney Boyle you sweet summer geniles you don't know what we've been through Barney turn back while you have the chance run as fast as you can when you get banned it is I'm wrong don't worry wow for you gaslighting chat really wow that's fucking up hey you made it clear that if you think that you're right then you're wrong it's just an odysmistic I was using your rules for me you gaslighter but my rules were wrong Barney reminds me of a simpler time yeah man a more innocent time I just love the idea that he's watching the stream right now he has no fucking clue this is happening he hasn't hit the live button he's just been watching he just wants to add it to the conversation you know what Barney if I could put your comment all the way back there live I would I can't so does that mean theoretically Barney hasn't he doesn't know we're talking about him right now no dude you won't know for another 6 hours you won't know yeah here's the thing if he's able to get that far if he sticks with it and gets to this point he'll be like oh shit they're talking about me I didn't want everyone to know about my opinion on kicks yeah yeah I needed that pod to tell me that last bit there to change right before we can actually complete the objective in the future we run out of time and get pulled back into the present you know what's funny about this to me is like the movie treats this as like a almost like a low moment like fuck but to me I'm just like no we're doing great we're fine the salvation of the human race human race is saved well first of all invent time travel again in case this all fucks up so we can try again but they already have this time teleporter in the present day oh yeah that still works what can they do with that then can they put it on reverse well now that they know how to make it and you have the like the collective togetherness of a non extinct humanity working on it like holy fuck what hath god wrought see it's a picture scientist man and he's making his stuff in the future when the aliens are attacking he's like ah he completes the job opens the portal or whatever sends people through and then they're like we need to draft you for the future that was their first idea because they're so incredibly stupid but like why wouldn't one of your ideas then also be like maybe we should make the time machine again but in the 30 year past or whatever and then go even further back and then we'll make another one how far back could we go let's go all the way back to dinosaurs say hello that's probably not a good idea the comet and stuff that's probably a bad idea actually let's not do that actually wait we can save them no wait we don't want to save them because we use their bones for fossil fuels and stuff we need them you gotta die sorry what if the film the whole alien invasion it gets resolved really quickly because of course it will be and the main story of the plot is the concern of oh shit so like the problem's done and now we have like time machines you know rags that'll be a fucking genius idea and the public would hate it because they'd be like I was sold on the aliens and you made it all about the the morality of time that'd be so cool and that's the thing you know for a fact they would market it as the aliens as the main portion but you'd want it to be like no no no the aliens is like the beginning we knock them out with time travel and then it's like now what what else can we knock out the aliens facilitated our rapid invention of time travel and now that that's taken care of we're stuck with a humanity that has access to time travel and that's a way better story already than oh my god send more and more people to shoot guns at the aliens like yeah yeah yeah get the dinosaurs to fight the vietnamese unleash the velociraptive I said you're giving them ideas for the yesterday war some engine in chat they're probably making a sequel to this film oh boy don't fucking wait let it die war meaning that we now have the clues and weapons and growth the clues the growth the growth yeah the growth this film is a growth like a tumor here or in other words take the pro he's taken so long to say using information from the future they benefited in the past that's all he's fucking saying which is something that is like the first fucking thought you have when you have time travel like the most basic element of hey future knowledge in the past held yeah what can I do with that and that's as far as they went and that's all he's complimenting them for progress made in the future and progress it to the finish line in the present in a way that saves and completes them both and also not by facing saves and completes both the past and the future saves and completes make us more the fuck does it mean to complete a timeline when it's all you get to the heat death of the universe oh no well he just said that's what they did oh no I don't actually have the fucking clue the other set of obstacles and enemies the exact same ones we've been developing thus far 30 years from now what is what are we doing what is this I'm just playing some war music yeah what the stop touching do not touch that music get it out of this fucking video he keeps switching up the music this is when Bucky's grabbing Iron Man's fucking Utubeam slot and it's just gonna fight so what's his name when John Walker grabs the thing the band because they like to pillage Civil War music in that show ew ah this helps me gosh stop stop it Vietnam what's happening to you is what's happening to me when they played E.L.O. and Cruella how is he not getting hit for music copyright I completely agree we're fucking lucky if we don't get hit by it oh my god acid I'm pausing a whole bunch oh stop it stop stop stop please stop and as you know the great example you have the character relationships like with Danny's daughter I added that isn't it so cool that I moved it so that when I said his daughter appeared because I had artificially fucking cropped and zoomed he spends 10 seconds on the script and the rest of the time on just like edits that are totally not necessary and add nothing to the point he's trying to add some of them are downright fucking confusing in terms of like what he was going for what do you mean why did you do this why did you go through the effort of this thing because you highlighted it is this video you guys is Vietnam this is a wall that we didn't sign up for man bit on the nose for future contact to be his own daughter out of all the people in the world the reason it on a conceptual level is so crucial is because now by developing this relationship in the future you're also at the same time by proxy developing it in the present no it's not even true everything that happens with her in the future will be wiped out once that future is gone so how exactly is he saying because he realizes his mistakes and so he won't make them in the past when we never he never knew why he would have made them anyway it'd be like rags goes the future and it's like you killed your entire family you gunned them all down you're like why would I do that you never find out and then he's like we'll see now you've learned to not do it I don't believe you I didn't believe you you go back to the past and it's like rags will not do it now it's like he wasn't gonna fucking do it anyway it wasn't why exactly also someone in chat is from TVA stands for time Vietnamese authority oh no so at the same time by proxy developing it in the present dance family isn't just some pointless background noise that exists purely it totally is it's the classic shit we make fun of this all the time it's a writer's wet dream where they grab their archetype book and they're like there's hero man who has family that he has to fight for that's all they are the sake of existing we can actually grow to care about that family through him why would you cover up the face of his family member to write the word family oh no honestly because it seems like he just needs to do editing there has to be something that he can do what this youtube channel it's just an outlet so we can make his stupid edits that are meaningless I mean it's working people like this Rex yeah crazy people like his shitty videos wow well I had a good authority that we make shitty videos from a streamer on twitch what we have hours of evidence to point to that his videos are shitty they have something they heard on twitter that one time from someone who doesn't watch us well we'll say this is 4 out of 4 for Filmento now right yeah we've done him 4 times in Jesus Christ he will probably pop up on our anniversary stream too not in person unless he wants to of course I welcome him but like this purely for the sake of existing we can actually grow to care about that family through his a proceed of a piss with a face blur that just says human alrighty I gotta write that down that is funny that's good old buddy I think that is funny oh we're so close to the end we are I'm so tired this daughter we've developed an actual relationship with her and you can find this method of merge she's not the same person yeah there's like a fully grown woman in a war and this is a she got eaten by aliens and this goes from a two way relationship to just a one way relationship because the daughter doesn't know the context of anything that happens in the future this is all flowing one way from the dad to her so I don't get like he loves her more now like what exactly did he not love her before hence all I could draw out of this is what I said earlier where it's like the only thing Phil Mentor could be making a point about is Chris Pratt learns oh no I abandoned my daughter and my wife and it caused horrible strain I have learned now not to do that but he never learned why he did it so there's nothing to learn so it doesn't affect anything what's the why would I mean like why would he love his daughter before and so he goes to the future and meets his old daughter and then he goes to the past what changes he learned to abandon them now he knows he shouldn't do that even though he never would have done that anyway and he says as much but I don't get I don't even like they had to deliberately fuck that up as well because you could easily have made it so that he wasn't a particularly good father and then like from what he saw of the repercussions of his bad parenting he then in the past is like you know what I'm gonna be fucking I'm gonna be a stellar dad I see now how important fatherhood is well you mentioned the subject of fucking things up one of the things that's interesting here is that the scene on the bottom where he cuts the cable by accident we didn't know since this is our first watch through but bringing I noticed it yesterday when we rewatched this film I'm not even gonna call it a film this is so he goes to his dad they have their tism and then Chris Pratt Chad decides that he is going to go to the future and he is going to fight then we have the scene on the bottom here where he goes to talk to his daughter who's digging for vaccines in the dirt his kids are stupid and he accidentally cuts the ground cable and then he says I'll pay you ten bucks which is then she's like twenty bucks to not tell your mom this happened it's weird that you would show the scene of him accepting his responsibility of what he needs to do by fighting for humanity in the future and then we have the scene where he shirks his responsibility and has somebody else take the blame for it a child no less bizarre bizarre it's played as a laugh I guess it's amusing father and son exchange that probably worked really well in a different film but it's totally at odds with the idea of what his character has just gone through just stood out as really odd to us very strange like you could have a scene where she says like they've done this before and she says you know it'll be twenty bucks this time like she knows what he's going to ask because they do this often and he's like no no I'll go tell her because he's like learning to accept responsibility for things but I don't know fuck it we can just keep rolling it's fine means nothing because she dies well uh seems to forgive what's his name in the present his dad his own dad he leads to dan learning to forgive his dad in the present because that's like the simplest fucking reading you could ever have like what is like why you only talk about what why only talk about what they intended it's the same thing as every single fucking spider-man 2 video essayist says this film it's about duality it's about identity okay if peter parker he's a two lives they're conflicting with each other and they cast peter and he's like yeah yeah I know say anything new we know I saw the movie too everybody says it it's like telling me something that isn't blatantly obvious certainty of the stakes in the tomorrow ultimately lays the groundwork for the stakes in the today which gives the finale for example this endgame intensity no it doesn't endgame music here because it gives the finale endgame intensity yeah but endgame is like broken too oh my god what is going on in chat jesus bennett exonald what is wrong with you yeah james and they're taking care of it pretty fuck them up boys fuck them up why are you claiming that the ball is bad like the stakes of the this thing we've talked about this disconnect between the second act and how it ends has no impact whatsoever on the third act this the third act which is like its own movie that comes out of nowhere seemingly this whole idea about the stakes of the second part they lead to the stakes of the third part like that's just not that's just not true really at all there's hardly a connection at all what if you you could what if that's what you wanted to feel what about does it come across that way then I don't even know what I want to feel at this point all I feel is all I feel is hate typical e-fapper to forgive his dad in the present the certainty of the stakes in the tomorrow ultimately lays the groundwork for the stakes in the today which gives the finale for example this the certainty of the stakes in the tomorrow set the groundwork for the stakes of today man that's uh gibberish you know he felt good writing it and reading it and putting it in but it don't mean fuck all it doesn't mean anything it means it wouldn't it wouldn't mean much for any movie but it means a shit ton less for this film because the second act is just it just doesn't lead to anything and to engage as as fairly as I can it's like he's saying you see the future lets us know what happens if we lose setting the stakes problem is you're battling the queen alien person in the middle of like Russia which didn't happen so you don't know what the future is going to look like whether or not you win this fight no it's completely different now the events are all fucked yeah man he just fucking do you think he uses film soundtracks just to try and make people go ooh I don't remember that he's like the Mandalorian but in video they say for him look at them keys, I'm jangling look I'm gold well yeah but that that future can't possibly exist the way that it exists to that point the second that they changed the past everything changes as a result of the future yeah that's the whole point of what she said she said like don't let this happen like that's the whole point did you miss the point of that whole part of the movie I'm also like amused by the fact that he's see that daughter's death so he has to kill that queen alien otherwise that might just happen it's like yeah also the end of the world but I mean sure I guess it makes it personal that she dies okay I was honestly willing to just move past it because I have no fucking clue what he just said that he hasn't yet committed born of his sins that he hasn't yet committed so he's slamming his head against the wall let's go let's go go go let's get to the end go Power Rangers and save our family by the way this expression is me for this whole video it's just like I don't know yeah so the special core source of this specific emotion is the sheer impossible nature there's no way there's a specific impossibility of it the core source of this emotion why would you say core source stop it so there are many sources because that's how emotional this film is there are many sources of your emotion but the core source is all right it didn't quite make sense for now makes perfect sense thank you just leave our daughter that's one of the worst ways we could possibly hurt her and yet in this future's past that's exactly what we've already done and why did she get involved with him and bring him back and meet him here and get involved with him because why would you want that you're not appreciating the fucking film making okay it's engaging his daughter is mysteriously saying it's better if we don't talk to each other how interesting is that do you're not thinking about the core source you're just going around fucking thinking about whatever you want I'm putting way more thought into the core and sauce than the writers in this movie did where's the core and sauce give it to me where's the core and sauce why does he keep referring to Chris as we yeah I know he's trying to rope us into his crimes it's sins it's to encourage the sense that we feel what he feels because he is a protagonist protagonist and forms this obsessively strong urge for us to make things right both now as well I'm in a corn mortar sauce everywhere need some modifications to the corn sauce now it's real corn he's spending all day talking about the stuff what I really suggest you do is take this film along with Assassin's Creed and watch them back to war I've never even seen Assassin's Creed I just know that this proposition entails that you have to watch the tomorrow war at least once don't do it this movie's bad don't do it oh my god he actually is standing by those criticisms you have separate characters separate emotions separate events separate locations separate storylines why the fuck is that a negative you weirdo present is plot, future is action nooooo oh baby that sounded really weird nooooo it makes well also at the same time keeping an eye on the earlier aspects which can be as well all that educational stuff are the way though you need to take from this video oh god no we're doing it again what what's happening I can't take it anymore thank god it's over there's no such fucking luck this video brought to you I can't take it anymore I can't take it anymore it's so funny I just want to stop I just want to die we're almost there well also at the same time keeping an eye on the earlier aspects which can be really useful as well all that educational stuff are the way though educational I can't on the inside I'm laughing like I'm in a straight jacket in a padded room why just stop this is something else honestly existence of these few non-general specific puzzles we've discussed these few non-general specific non-general specific he says he's non-general specific non-general specific he comes from the same planet as like Neil Breen where he says that he's an alien impersonating a human why non-general specific gotta hear him say that again that's so perfect is that the sheer existence of these few non-general specific puzzles we've discussed by hope then of course means that he wants the tomorrow war earns 100% on a filamentometer and becomes objectively the greatest film in the history of cinema see this is the clearest attire to me this is where I'm like yeah I get it now oh my god at least until next week but since I'm actually starting to enjoy this power of deciding the definitive value of things I'm gonna give you one this is perfect for us too because he's like how silly to objectively review something it's like bruh your problems don't even scratch the surface of whether or not you're being objective it's really not the issue like you just have to learn how to speak alright both of them alright you need to work on how to convey thoughts to other minds you'll get there this is what the channel's all about it's improving on that particular notion one at the bottom that non-general specific idea this time about your messy low quality wallet that's always going missing what? what you really need for your wallet is a clean minimalist design with all your cards neatly organized and ready to be used in a cool way that makes you feel like why does your wallet have a button on it I feel like a button just immediately decreases how long it can last because that why would you add moving parts to your like there's a lot of things a wallet doesn't need moving parts well I feel like the design that we got is pretty good you just have a little piece and it's got the slots for all your cards super easy I feel like we're in the maybe evolution but not revolution stage of wallet design where we've just kind of really gotten it down to what it needs to be I haven't stuck all the way back after watching a video like that he's still selling us a wallet what's that got to do with anything it feels so weird my brain hasn't quite connected it yet it's just like a wallet ad ok that's what we're doing now I guess it's a wallet how much shit do you have in your wallet that you need moving parts and buttons to organize it do you know how much of a douche you're going to look like when you go to the wallet and you hit a button and your credit cards pop out do you know how much of a piece of shit you're going to look like but how funny would it be if they popped out and they all fell out oh shit what's this product how much money does it cost to look like an asshole you hold everybody up in the queue cause you can't get it out it's stuck let's see I'm taking my credit card out of my wallet the button isn't working if you say that out loud people are going to look at you weird my wallet buttons ok people will assume by button you mean like a clasp or you get like a shirt a button that you button for whatever reason your wallet just has one of those that keeps it closed it broke in the stuck position it broke so you're just unable to retrieve your credit cards mmm let's see it's a cool wallet alright this is someone called the inspector gadget wallet also needed to be made of sturdy premium leather go go gadget wallet offers RFID protection to prevent your cars from being standing from the outside and then you also need a special solar power tracker that allows you to easily keep an eye on where your wallet is going and what it's doing it has a solar power tracker yeah but my wallet is mostly in my pocket where there's no sun wait so that means that this wallet also has just like electronics in it too just like fly out electronics that's what wallets need no more fumbling no more fumbling for cards I'm sorry what people do I am a lowly rando I use my wallet every day for a lot of different things maybe not every day but here it is see I'm shaking it has coins in it thumbling with it oh you have coins in your wallet I do from a bygone era that's fine that's fine it's just interesting that you keep I thought you'd like put them in your pocket or something maybe if they're like dollar or pound coins or big ones rags we have one dollar and two dollar coins in Australia I'm not putting those in my pocket I'll put them in my wallet with the zip why would I put wait I need ten steps back why would you put there are parts and wallets for keep four coins why would you not put them in the wallet not necessarily at all what are you not necessarily at all what are you talking about if Fringy's referring to wallets that have pouches for coins specifically then that would be necessarily that's specifically he said wallets have that thing in them they do they do there's some without them well no I knew that these wallets he's selling right now have that they don't have coin portions but like what do you do if you need so that was the conversation I thought we were going to have where we've practically evolved to this point now where coins are becoming so irrelevant why are people saying that they don't have pouches what are you talking about I've got my wallet and it's got a zip it has a zip that you can put the coins in mine actually has two different pouches for coins yeah I don't have those there's the one that has the one for you know paper cash and then the zip to put the coins in and people are like oh it's a purse it's a wallet it's just got a zip I don't know it does sound like a girly man purse but that's fine we can skip over that I don't know rags you gotta educate yourself on wallets I don't know what to tell you there's something that has coins for you but I think one of the reasons is because you often sit on your wallet and so coins might this is his weird thing where he stores everything in his back pockets he doesn't have front pockets why would you do that you sit on those what put anything in your back pocket rags use your front pockets okay use your front pockets I do I put my phone in my front pocket but you put your wallet in your back pocket you put your front in one and your wallet in the other is it is it weird to put your wallet in your back pocket it is if you get a complaint about sitting on your wallet yeah take it out why would you not put it in your other wallet because I want to put other things in there potentially potentially what whatever you want to put in there like what such as phones or coins or pens or chapstick or stuff you're carrying around pieces of paper knife we have already established that the phone is in the other pockets so what are you putting in this one and knife apparently apparently why would I not put paper I have a knife I carry with me all the time there is something rags why would I not put papers in my back pocket and my wallet in my front pocket why would I put the thing that is uncomfortable to sit on in my back pocket while it's not uncomfortable to sit on I sit on mine all the time I don't understand why maybe it's uncomfortable because it has coins in it no you said that no that's what I'm asking maybe if if you have because maybe the two are yeah but you skipped over the part if it's uncomfortable for you so you put the coins in your front pocket and the wallet in the back so you can sit when you could just put the coins in the wallet and then the wallet in the front pocket no coins like for me I never like have coins I don't use cash and get like change if you need coins and you need to put them somewhere wouldn't it be handy to have that wallet that has the zip that you can put the coins in if I needed to carry coins with me I guess I would just I just would put them on my pocket no I'm talking about an instance where you have now been bestowed with coins while you're out and you still need to go home and instead of having a nice little wallet you can put them in and everything stays in that same place all your money is in one place instead you've got to fish around in your pocket for these coins no I'm not no this isn't an infomercial I just reach my hand in and pull them out I need them oh but Rags what if you've got a knife in there what if you have your tampons in there how are you going to get to the coins no my knife was you have two pockets we've been over this you brought it up I love that you brought that also knives often like EDC knives like I use they just they have a clip on it so it keeps it higher up in the pocket I know it's genius that you can order all of this stuff to be extremely efficient with coins in a wallet it seems less efficient because then I have to get my wallet out and then zip it instead of just pulling it out of my pocket instead of pulling out all of your coins and sifting through them instead of just having the wallet open and you can see them and then just grab the ones how could you possibly it's funny there's loads of people in chat arguing you're correct when you're just wrong this is just completely like you guys need to experience what it's like having coins in a wallet it's incredibly useful and easy you're all weird problem with coins if I ever need them if I ever need coins which is extremely rarely and I just pull out of my pocket and take the ones that I need it's not whether you need them it's whether you get them when you're using the other money that you have some places don't take cod some places you don't how big are American coins? American coins are different sizes like we have different sizes of Britain too but like how big are we talking how big do they get in America yep I've never I've never had an issue with just having coins pulling them out of my pocket well but that's a different issue the wallet seems like seems like an extra step for it how is it an extra step to have all of your coins in the same place as your cards and your money literally all of your monetary devices in the one place because then if I want my coins if I need them for whatever reason then I would just pull them out and instead of pulling out the wallet and then zipping then getting the coins out of the wallet it actually sounds like Rags would more value the coin portion of the wallet than me and Fringy because it sounds like you never use coins I never the only time that I use coins you've been arguing how it's tough to pack them away and get them all out and stuff it's like well if you never use them I'm sure it's more efficient than pulling them out of the pocket whenever you change trousers and put them back in the new trousers like why I never have the coins stop that's avoiding the points you keep avoiding the point by running to a different area you have to come back to what you were saying you have your coins we've got the coins in this mysterious world you've got your coins they're in your hand and you're like hmm I guess I'll put them in my trousers because that's easier access than having them in the wallet but also I never use coins maybe put them in the wallet if I come home with coins in my pocket then they go into my coin cup man we got coin cups and shit rather than just putting them in your wallet no you don't keep like you don't put your change in a place so that it's all together and then you go to the bank and turn them into bills I'm starting to wonder what coins mean to Americans versus British people I don't get because when I come home if I have coins in my pocket then they go into I have a mug and I just put coins in there and then when the mug gets full when I go to the bank I turn in all the coins and get them as bills so the lowest bill we have bill note is 5 maybe that explains it yeah maybe that's the difference you don't have a one pound note we have one dollar coin and a two dollar coin we have one pound coin we have two dollars yeah we have one dollar bills our notes start at 5 there's nothing I feel like that chance is nothing nevertheless you'd still be better off having the coins in your wallet rather than having them in your pocket I can see how it's encouraged Americans to be anti-coin if most of the time they can have it all in note form we'll just turn our coins into notes that's what I do so I can't turn my one pound coins into one pound notes it's true why would I you guys have way more reason to use coins than we do especially with things going digital as they already are well see that's the interesting part that I thought we were going to discuss because I've found more recently there's less and less coins being needed but they still are they're still totally in circulation I'm still using the shell of them I think the only time I ever use coins is for a laundry sometimes but man if only you had them in your wallet then you would have to have to keep switching I'm still confused how it's easier access in your pocket than it did in your wallet because I just take the specific amount of coins I need over to the building where the washer and dryer is with your wallet I need it so rarely that I don't want to carry around the coins with me all the time I'm just going to go wash my clothes and everything so I'm just going to take the coins over to the building with them there are inconvenience from having the coins in your wallet in case you need them I never need that well if you have over here so over here it takes quarters so I would have to carry 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 I'd have to carry 14 coins with me all the time for a very specific use that I know in advance that I'll need them for that's next to my house I don't need that many coins with me all the time in my wallet you don't need to carry all the coins that you need all the time like you can always make up for that with just the other money why would it need to only be coins because that's the way the machines operate the machines operate on coins yeah so you live in a country where there are fewer coins for higher values but then you have a machine that operates entirely on coins what? no it just uses coins that is strange actually many of them many do like pretty much all vending machines here nowadays will accept bills but for whatever reason these washers and dryers they just take quarters and so when I go to do my laundry I'll just bring the quarters with me when I walk over there and I'll put them in and I'll put them in in a world where you don't have dollar that is bizarre we do have dollar coins but they just take quarters yeah I don't know I don't know why they do I didn't make them it might be old machines I don't know but they just take quarters none of this defeat is irrelevant there's no reason why a wallet would be better for you if you were in a position where you needed to use 14 coins every day at different times you may not 100% know would you then still not put them in the wallet rather just put them in your pocket hmm I feel like there's an obvious answer but go ahead well I would have to change my habit of wearing my wallet in my front pocket because if I was going to keep wearing it in my back pocket 14 coins would be I'd feel that when I sat down so I just put it in your wallet and then put the wallet in the front pocket I don't think I like how it feels though I just don't like the feeling of the wallet in the front pocket that's good enough for me that's totally fine that's not what you said up until this point you were arguing that the utility is worse I think that I'd rather have wallets I'd rather have yeah because I would just reach out if I needed coins for whatever reason I just pull it out of my pocket take the ones I need and use them and put the rest back in the pocket excellent whenever you describe the ease of the coins I may as well just replace it with wallet and it all still makes sense so that's why I'm just lost on your argument there's a bunch of coins floating around in your pocket you have to pull them all out they don't float around that wasn't literal rags I was using that to describe the experience because they were all jangly I didn't actually mean they were literally floating because coins don't do that at least not in that environment they're just all there together you just pull them out in one motion that's what I said you'd have to take them all out you have to take them out of your wallet too open it up and see them and then choose the ones you want yeah whereas if you have to fish them all out of your pocket you need to get all of them and then check to see which ones are there I don't know, I've never had a problem just reaching in and grabbing all the coins in my pocket and having them all just in my hand you're in the other way it seems like you've totally missed out on the joys of having all of your coins in the wallet well apparently it's considered a man purse you put coins in a wallet it's a good enough reason to avoid the utility why would it be a man purse if it's the shape of it I wasn't being serious with the purse thing oh well a lot of people in chat are so I'm afraid I'm going to have to cover it and there are people in chat like oh man it's so obvious that we'll learn freaky a wrong of this it's like what do you mean well the funny part is that I've had a huge experience of using coins in wallets and in pockets I find it way more frustrating to have them in a pocket because you have to fucking what do you call it, claw machine them out you're not even successful necessarily on getting them all in the first try get stuck right in the corner and then you have to try to get around and get and there's some people who are saying you can tell what coins they are by the feel of them pull the right ones out it's like fucking hell talk about utility in Australia we're a little bit better on this because all the coins are shaped differently in ways that have distinct profiles some of the coins here are different but it's pretty difficult to make them up ours are like flat out the 50 cent coin is a hexagon so it's like that one's really easy to tell what you've got you don't have to defend the use of a purse the thing is my wallet is a chunky man wallet thing it just has everything in it I consider it super useful there's someone who's like well I prefer to have my cards in my pocket because I can pull them out with ease I'd be like uh huh for coins or notes or yeah I'd just be like just keep it on the wallet and then I need to open it up when I could just have all my fucking notes I just don't understand what correlation isn't understood it's the money thing it has all the money in it it has all the money plus more I'm glad we settled that yes I encourage the use of wallets they are fantastic for all of your money needs man whatever wallet he's selling you yeah I don't see the point of a wallet like I guess I see the point of a wallet having a I understand the point of the wallet having this thing that detects sunlight that you can use to the solar powered radar on your wallet in case you drop it in a place in the sun or how often is your wallet in the sun that it would even get charged well that was actually Mel's primary point it's just bullets don't fucking keep it in the sun most people don't keep the wallets in the sun it's almost counterproductive show us when those three get going I just listen it's fun so when you have a wallet and you lose it I bet 95 plus percent of the time it's indoors yeah that's what I need is a fucking wallet and then you charge like what the fuck and also like if you lose your wallet by the time I think the scenarios in which that would actually be of practical use to you are going to be so tiny and miniscule that it will never end up paying for itself especially once I check how much these wallets are worth how do you lose a wallet it's possible indoors between pants maybe it falls out maybe you're going to the bank and instead of putting your wallet back in your pants immediately you put it on the seat next to you or the console and it falls between the seats it can happen it probably happens most when you forget you're switching it between one pant to the other pant you set it down someplace and you just forget about it because you're not used to thinking about where your wallet is it's normally right where you need it that's what people are asking my wallet does have a coin pouch or whatever it is I do put my coins in there yes I do fucking Europeans also Australians Australians overall all of those actions take so little time that it's such a non-issue for me I mean this is the thing I'm never in trouble grabbing my wallet than whatever I need out of it it's not an issue I can agree that this is mostly a non-issue I'm not going to cling to the idea that a wallet is inferior to having the coins in your pocket like at that point I don't think it's fair to characterize me as being stubborn I think that I see where your point is but especially for me it certainly is way more easier if I even have them there and if I had to deal with coins I would probably just want them in my pocket I don't think I'm being stubborn I just think that I'm just right that it is easier to have them in your pocket it just seems it just seems easier to me if you just commit it to I like the way that I do it that's one thing but then you keep saying but no but it is easier though I think it's easier to have them in your pocket so you don't it's not just that you feel that way you actually think that it is superior which was what we were talking about in the first place and I do I, oh okay alright sure I don't think it's fair to characterize me as being stubborn I've listened to your points and I understand them I just think it's better to have them in the pocket I don't think it's very fair to me to call me stubborn do you think that they are like do you disagree with all of the points I mean to differing degrees like I see your points but I just I think that the pocket especially because I feel like a lot of this comes down to how many coins you need how often you need them that sort of thing but if you just had all of the coins in there all the time just when you need them like it just because you have them doesn't like why is there an issue with having them even if you don't need them what if something comes up and it's like oh I'm glad I had my coins here in my wallet well the argument obviously seems real straight forward to be I find there's more fumbling if they're in your pocket compared to when you wallet I just find it the other way my argument would be that they're a collective scrambled in and you have to pull them all out lay them on the hand and then pick out the ones you want with the wallet you pull the wallet open grab done and there's no fuss of any kind other than a zip or button depending on what wallet does what like that seems so much cleaner and faster and this is the thing I've done them both a lot I think we can all agree though that whether or not you've got them in your pocket or in your wallet I feel like both of those are superior to this fucking wallet here well the thing is if you had this wallet it seems like it's built more so for Americans because of the fact that you would have your coins in your pocket and you put this in your pocket too this thing seems like it would be harder than your average wallet and so maybe in the back pocket because I saw people saying they way prefer the wallet in the back pocket for style and that's just not something that could sit it over here I don't think like the wallet goes in the place that's most useful not like which sort of looks kind of nice and I I'm always having flashes to like yeah I can picture like American shows of characters always have their wallets in their back pocket but like to me that just seems less safe like I'm very protective of my wallet it's pretty common here that people have it in their back pocket yeah that's the thing like if you're doing it for style whatever it's like oh that's just never something I've considered with my wallet you just reminded me there was an ad I remember like 10 years ago for the PSP where the dude had it in his back pocket and that blew my mind it's like why would sit on that PSP well it's a lot of things that it sticks out of the back so somebody sees that they can steal it from you and you wouldn't see them coming and like yeah if you sit on it you destroy it well that's what people were saying they want it to like you can see the top third of it let's say out of the pocket and they like the way it looks and I'm just like man be careful when you're in London okay because that is gonna get taken within the first five minutes Moeller is wrong okay it's just warning you about big pocket thing just saying Moeller is right alright all things are balanced I like wallets I don't like these wallets what is the thing I wouldn't be able to use these ones primarily because I have more card related things to put in them that can be held by them but also because I want somewhere for my coins to go I don't want it to be in my pocket that's the other thing I always carry coins because I don't know when I'm gonna need them and that thing I don't have the same trousers for that many days so like I just I would find it frustrating to have to keep clearing them out and put them in instead of just the wallet the risk of leaving the coins in your pocket and then that doing something to like a washing machine is substantially higher because like I feel like it's a lot easier to forget to take a bunch of all of the coins out of your pocket rather than take the one wallet out and I'm pretty sure like coins can destroy washing machines like if you leave them in the pocket they can jam it I maybe I find that I feel like that's entirely possible in fact maybe if you have enough coins but Zara well generally machines are built to where they like machines are built with that and the washing machines and dryers are built with that in mind all the ones that I've ever seen it doesn't have any opening that's large enough for a coin maybe it could happen but that's the point I'm not gonna forget to take my wallet out of my my pocket or at least that's a lot less likely to happen then forgetting one or two coins that are in the pocket yeah I reckon it's mainly America versus the rest of the world sort of thing possibly because a lot of people are saying like they just don't have that many coins like they find it alien to the fact that I carry coins every day and I'm just like oh it's alien in reverse but for me so I get I only keep coins to turn them into bills because I barely get them anymore because I pretty much pay everything with a debit card but if you do if I do get coins for whatever reason then they only exist to turn into bills I most certainly need my coins but where do you get coins from then if you need them if I need the only the only time I do need them is for the laundry machines and I get them from like whenever I'm out at like groceries and stuff you can have people exchange them or you just go to the bank and you buy rolls of them you just exchange for rolls the only time I could picture myself doing that is when I go down the arcades and use them by the way there are articles about coins getting stuck in machines and how to remove them so like well I guess it's interesting because there I saw like a few people saying like well no that's not possible there's no way it's like how could like surely you would have to accept that it's possible even if it's unlikely. Sure it's possible. Yeah but not like impossible to an extent that it would be like incredibly bizarre that it got jammed. Like if you found out it was a coin you wouldn't go wow that was unexpected you'd be like oh that actually explains a lot. I if the machines like if the machine stopped if I had a washer and dryer and I found out that the reason for it was a coin I would say that's pretty pretty amazing that that happened I could understand it happen like I would see the result and be like oh a coin got into the machine I still think it'd be pretty amazing that that ended up actually happening. There are articles about milk being racist so so what you found an article. These are great counter arguments. Don't you have your own laundry machine rags buy one and don't ever need coins so not every so if you want a that's like a selling point for properties and places to live essentially is whether or not it has a washer and dryer especially if you're looking for apartments the apartment will charge you more a month for the laundry the laundry and dryer that the washer and the dryer and for me I don't go through that many clothes certainly not enough to justify a monthly difference for renting if I had a unit that had a washer and a dryer is by no means worth it at all for me to have one with a washer and dryer and also like you have to have like there has to be places in the wall where like the water can connect specific places for washers and dryers they can't just have you can't just plop them into a unit and they work they're not self-contained you have to they have to flush water in and out of it in a decent amount they have to be connected to the wall specifically so it's not like I can I could buy a unit that had one I had the option but and I don't remember what the exact number was but the price difference was just not it would have been insane of me to get a unit that had a washer and dryer considering what the difference per month was like especially because I just walk like less than a minute and I have access to many washers and dryers for cheap so that makes sense for me so if you want to romance on this comment here everybody has like washing machines yes I'm here laundromats are decently common here there's never one that's too far away I've had to use them twice maybe but pretty extenuating circumstances but that's what just some people use is a laundromat you see him around yeah you see him around here it's just most people it's because most people have gardens and there aren't as many like apartments and stuff so it's just more common that you have a place to hang it I think I don't know I don't really have any housing plans in particular though as time goes on and the looming reality of relatives dying begins to encroach upon our once blissful lives starts to creep in who knows what my housing situation will be in terms of places that open up as options and whatnot but currently no I don't really have any aspirations for home ownership at the moment hmm I think is a matter of cultural evolution the lack of requirement for coin holdage has meant that whenever it crops up it'll just go in the pocket and then it goes away meanwhile it's constant over here and so I reckon if it were needed constantly in America you would eventually evolve to be putting it in your wallet that's what I think I think so yeah probably because here with one dollar bills and coins are just they're kind of seen as a nuisance here I mean I consider them kind of annoying but like so if everything went in a way that I didn't need coins anymore which I'm pretty sure that is the way that the world wants to go right because coins we can do everything with cards I think that's something that wants to happen it feels like that's where we're heading towards because like what do they call it the thing where you just scan your card in like that applies what's the cap on that right now I don't know what it is in America something like that they'll probably keep expanding that to the point where it's just like everybody just has a card no one has any notes or coins just evolve everything to just be card and then this little wallet will likely become the more prominent design for wallets possibly the vast majority of wallets here are just they're basically just the size of cards they're not big they're just they're just slightly larger than what a debit card would be because cards go in and bills go in but that's pretty much it cashless society is the plan slash agenda I'm not against the physical does that not feel like something that people would naturally lean towards rather than an agenda yeah I feel like if we got rid of coins there's a lot of access to that in a lot of ways probably I'm not a coin tissue fundamentally people want access to all their money all the time that's like the reason why people have cards and stuff yeah hey instead of having to have all of my cash in this specific location and then some of my cash in my pocket I have all of my cash accessible at all times well it's like making the lowest unit of like dollar a note rather than over here being the coin like I probably prefer it if they were notes cash was propaganda well wait so by cashless do they mean moneyless like or do they just mean no coins I don't think I mean moneyless physical I'm not against losing coins and I guess notes I don't know that I'm against that is the concern that our money isn't in our hand rather it's stored somewhere forever I think there I think there's a concern of if you have cash it's more quote-unquote yours in a sense where you don't have a bank or a system or a thing you're relying on in order to withdraw or deposit money it's physically in your possession and it is yours alright I can see it has a more of an yeah it's more of an independent yeah there's an independence appeal to it however what I do think is that if we if eventually the need and desire for bills and coins goes away it will just be replaced by something else that people will invest in physically whether it's gold or precious metals or fuck I don't know wine or whatever people might use as a substitute people still have gold and stuff as a storage of value because that's just the thing that exists that you can have physical objects will always have value it just depends on what those objects are and they might change over time I think like silver is silver more valuable than gold now silver is another one of those sort of I'm not sure what the price is at the moment but silver is another like storage of value and of course there's like crypto which is really changing too as Hunter just kind of pointed out in a sense because a lot of people are saying I can store my cash it's like in fairness who gives that cash value well the government gives well it's complicated but the government and like people and stuff give that because they're saying like if we have no cash then the government has way too much control and it's like I mean don't they have all control of the money right now anyway well the government does have all control over the money because they have the central banks that print the money and they set the agenda in terms of like the interest rate and stuff like that not the interest rate is still way more valuable okay yeah complicated because like the value is based on what the society itself decides but it's also because of what the government says in terms of what it is and like in cash has less there's less volatility to cash in a lot of places like the dollar is probably there's probably less volatility for the value of a dollar well it depends on what you it depends on how you regulate it though like or it depends on how you pay the price or something like that if it was gold standard or like you know the other different ways of like valuing it or if you like pay it to another currency or things like that well in the sense of if you have a thousand dollars in bills under your mattress or whatever and you wait 20 years the steady change in their value it'll probably be be a bit more predictable in how it changes instead of if you bought silver or ammunition or something like that well partly because like there are agencies and stuff that control the value in certain ways by like interest rates and stuff like that how much of the supply there is in the market these geniuses are dancing around the incredible importance of gold standard but don't even realize it laugh my ass off I know what the gold standard is but what does that have to do with what we're talking about here specifically it's really funny to think like it's the key to everything we were talking about was just like no actually that's adjacent we're talking about many ideas right now what was interesting for me to think about was some people mentioned it like cash allows you to do untraceable transactions or at least much less traceable ones definitely more so than like when you do transactions that have to go through banks and stuff like that for sure didn't the gold standard end in like the 70s in the 70s it was Nixon he got rid of the gold standard in the United States he nixed it yeah in a certain sense yeah Coca-Cola is the gold standard I don't know about that I mean a lot of people go like yeah I guess it's always the same ideas like we don't want them to erase coins either because it's just step-by-step worry about the erasure of cash and the potential consequences well I mean I guess the thing is like the removal of coins might well just be like a matter of inflation like a sense is worth like nothing whereas a sense 100 years ago actually had some level of value it's like if you look at the price of stuff and you care it's like oh like six shillings it's like what is that like nothing absolutely nothing compared to what it is now well I just said because obviously I opened this with more so just the utility idea just like everywhere you go everything you do it's just this one card you're pre-approved and it just does everything for you in a sense but then that's how it would be like most sci-fi things just be like they slot their card into a thing and it's just like it's just this all-purpose card but I can see how it's like there could be horrible things that are happening as a result of that being the way that it is like utility-wise it might be great but what does it mean for the economy that that is the only way people spend and log all their money I do get it it's super interesting this is part of what is difficult about crafting sci-fi futures where you have to like the fact that that's where the money's at what does it mean for everything else crypto as well has to like factor into this stuff now now that it exists it's like hard to and it's hard to see what that will look like in 10, 20 or 30 years so imagine if you're trying to do it a hundred years from now it's like mmm that'd be tough so is it oh my god we're still on this like yeah well we can talk about the wallet what's his brand the ekst well actually what do you think it's worth maybe we should take some guesses and I'll check and see what the I'm gonna high bowl it is 50 bucks I think it's gonna be very expensive I'll go with 25 25 bucks what's our what does our crowd think is it here maybe metal metal I was like in crowd like chat what is what do you think the value is of an ekst laden wallet is the thing that he's promoting yeah man 45 bucks all right it looks like the well I've checked for the purposes I mean a lot of people are typing in chat I think they understood I think I would have I would have guessed around I think I would have guessed around 50 or so the lowest one that I see here is $67 oh shit okay I completely misjudged that like so why yeah I don't I don't I don't blame you it's hard to gauge the price on something like that I would imagine however they go up to $169 or $161 okay all right I'm clearly like $161 so I thought it was a piece of metal molded to slot cards into with a little button that pushes them out what what am I missing that makes them that expensive that's pro what I'm going to do solar panels yeah oh the solar fuck yeah okay I didn't I forgot about that well here the the $67 one and the $161 oh it's on sale it's normally $189 oh my god I don't pay that much for a wallet I don't have any features of both um it looks like they both have RFID blocking technology space grade aluminum that doesn't fucking mean anything what a space grade does that mean that what if you put it in the back it would be fine it's like putting the word gamer in front of something game of fuel yeah it's not normal fuel it's game of fuel oh by the way the tracker card is extra that's extra money the tracker that's charged by the solar panels I think so right so it's basis $89 for something called the parliament wallet and then you need to add another $49 if you want the tracker the $160 one I guess the the Fortuna parliament wallet but it looks like it's it's used as real leather full grain American hides and treated with wax for a subtle shine um hand stitched so it seems to have lovely craftsmanship and it had better for $161 but yeah it looks like there's a special little sleeve on the outside that's a solar panel for locating it this is a bouge wallet indeed the idea that they assume every time you lose your wallet it will be in direct sunlight and you'll be okay it'll be fine you have to have or you just I guess so I guess it charges let me let me take let me show this picture so it looks like the outside of the wallet has a special sleeve that's designed to fit this um tracker card essentially so you have to make sure it's charged by putting it in the sun and then you have to put it in your wallet so that it is trackable and it has power to it uh huh but it's not in the sun while it's actually being tracked dude how's that for a ticking clock in like a gangsta movie where there's still a bunch of wallets and they roll on like a table and they hide out and the sun is moving across the sky and it's like you can see it getting toward the solar panel while the police are looking for them and they just like they run out of time but they don't realize that's the way to fucking talk to you you would think that you'd want to you'd come up with something else in order to charge it because the the amount of time that a wallet sees sunlight probably minuscule amounts of time not very high if my wallet was an animal it would be like a mole it wouldn't even like have eyes because it's always in the dark yeah it's always in a pocket or indoors it's almost an odd feature I guess does the charge last for a really long time when you put it to full and then you don't really need to have it in the sun oh boy I don't know I feel like losing your wallet is a bottom-up problem where you just need to get better at not losing it keep it in mind, train yourself or buy an obnoxious wallet or an obnoxious chain to attach the wallets the lip on your the hoop on your belt or you can wear that little pack it's like the more comfortable your wallet is the easier it is to forget it maybe that's the paradoxical exchange it has a bunch of schnives sticking out of it schnives I think it's a schnive I guess because whenever I go places I get into the habit of padding my wallet and padding my phone my front left pocket my wallet to my back right pocket and I just pat them both out of habit to make sure I have them and that's that well look at the promotional images here let me show you this the promotional images for this wallet I'm looking at the black colored leather ones now he's in front of a sports car a Ferrari or something and he's like well dressed rich people get these maybe that's the angle they're trying to get rich people to buy them it's the sigma mile blind set that's when you get these ones oh you add the tracker card for $42 that's the option right there I assumed it was built into the extended price but no you add it for $42 more I suppose you missed the part where I mentioned that earlier well when you said you paid extra for it because I'm looking at two different ones the $40 so I assume that it was the extra price wasn't just for the stitching and the leather because that's a $100 difference but it was also for that card and I imagine the card probably isn't that expensive probably not $49 that first image though he's clicking that with the pinky finger and they pop out and he pulls one out and he's like that's proper etiquette you always use the pinky, pinky out, pinky in for the wallet many cards that you use this feels weird to me if you have all the cards that pop out of that slot for instance I just have multiple slots in different places on my wallet and I remember where the cards are so I can just immediately get the ones that I need why would it be better? it sounds like something that would be fun to review it does seem like we all buy them if we're weak of using them we're like I go back to my old wallet it's no more regular wallet I don't need electronics and moving parts in my wallet you put money into it you put cards in it it's not that complicated it doesn't need lights for sure there's been around for thousands of years a normal wallet will last you many years because it's a wallet no mechanical mechanism it's just hmm the button is really important it is a grouge wallet it's such a gimmick it's a gimmick two things about the image we have on screen right now two from Filmento I'm pretty sure the whole conversation started because he said no more fumbling with your cards as if like anybody ever had but secondly look at the photo they made they put it on like what is it almost seems like it shouldn't be this way like gravity would defy this you know what I mean like the the valve is it's all why have they put three phones on that I think the valve is flat and they just filmed it because it has to be right it wouldn't be that they glued them to the thing it comes across as really odd to choose that as you're like look at the phones this is a phone for rich people and that worn red valve it's got that working class stink about it that I want to keep away from my expensive precious button laden wallet it just feels like I'll put them on that you know my wallet belongs on that coffee table next to that super expensive coffee that needs to be served with a spoon that's where my wallet belongs sorry I'm just like I'm now starting to wonder about any practical you know how like if you you need to you have different cards in your wallet that are all for different purposes obviously you have some that you're paying some is like your bus fare and then other little cards that you want to use if you've got all of the cards in this one slot and you need to pop them out to make them work does that not mean that you need to constantly be taking your things out and in of that wallet instead of just being able to keep them in the slots and just put that one up to the machine that you need to use it for I assume so I know with depending on what the cards are for you might keep the card in your pocket if you just need to because when I was in a one of my jobs I was a restaurant server and we would use cards which were debit cards essentially and you would scan them on a computer and it would be like your account and we would always keep them like in our front pouch because we were using them so often and so I I don't I assume that like when you when you does the button retract them as well or do you have to push them in I assume you push them back in and it probably clips the button back right to be used again I guess that also means like if ever you need to get pulled over for your ID you need to pop the thing out like fish around for the ID you actually the cop will be like whoa what is that well no no no listen if you have one of these wallets you're already clearly driving like a Ferrari you never get pulled over so if you do get pulled over then the the lowly cop is going to be going away by your car you probably won't even notice your wallet but I was going to bring up something else I maybe this is just me but I hate the way that you store the cash on this wallet right in a strap instead of in a sleeve on that strap folded up that way which means you can carry if you do carry cash you have to carry less of it because it will bulge more because it's being folded up more and also it's there and I don't know how much I trust that strap and will that strap lose its elasticity over time you need to pull all of the money out to find the notes that you want rather than having all of your notes just opening it up it's all in a row that's one of the coolest things about wallets open up a wallet and you can sip for them this is another Australian elitism I think that having notes that are different colors to represent what they are instead of just having the numbers is a really efficient way you have an America does well ours do have different designs and have different designs for sure but they are the same color but over here we have like pink is $5 blue is $10 red is $20 yellow is $50 gold and 100 is green ours is kind of our new 100s sort of have like a stripe to them and some color to them it's pretty much all adult greenish color though the designs and the looks of the numbers there are a little different and you just get used to the difference between them like if you see a bill lying down you can just tell the difference between them if they are different amounts because of the design but they are more similar I would be fine for having them be different colors well I think different colors is cool from a design standpoint as well having really colorful notes is just neat like Australian money just looks cool it is useful one interesting one thing too is that since our money as far as I know pretty much always had that greenish tint then idioms have developed as a result of that seeing green the only color they care about is green, green is the money color I do like those idioms but I do wonder if I would sacrifice the practical utility of having the different colored ones just for idioms I'm pretty indifferent on it I don't really care that much about them being different colors but if they started to make them different colors I'd be fine with it I think it's just super minor Australian money looks like plain money well I think the thing that makes Australian money particularly cool is those little transparent things that they have apparently that makes it really difficult to counterfeit our money is all different colors it's not exactly the same but they are different also I have a question because somebody just mentioned something about waterproof is US money is that waterproof or if you get it wet does that actually degrade so here's the thing it's not actually made out of paper it's made out of this cotton material you can put it through a washer and it'll be fine but will it be damaged in a way that is sort of appreciable it'll get worn but it won't get no you could throw bills if you have a roll of bills and you leave it in your pants and it goes through the washer or whatever or if you just threw it in it would be fine when it came out I always wondered because everybody says it's paper and it's like Australian money is clearly not paper it's not I think somebody says plastic which might be right so our $100 bill has some plastic in it the new ones do counterfeiting and things in the middle there but bills are it's not actually paper it's just paper like thus the expressions wait I want to test my understanding of American so there's George Washington I can't tell the guy in the $2 bill and then there's your old boy Lincoln is the $10 is that what was the third one Jefferson sorry yeah I'm fucking idiot I don't know why I said Hamilton or is that the guy in the $20 bill oh no it is Hamilton oh Jefferson's the $2 bill yeah he is not many $2 bills but it's good sometimes when you go to the bank I'll ask him for $10 wait $20 is Hamilton so who's on the $10 there no $10 is Hamilton yeah $20 is Jackson and $50 is Ulysses as grants and $100 is Franklin oh my god the kite guy god damn it Benjamin Franklin that's right yeah and also if you have so the you can exchange what's called mutilated currency essentially if you have bills that get either like burned or ripped or for whatever reason as long as you have like 50 more clearly more than 50% of it has to be identifiable and you can get a replacement I think it'll be a case by case basis but if part of it gets ripped off you can get a replacement for it it's still good money essentially so that way it's a thing about like you know how it's decided who gets put on the money yeah I was going to say with a lot of white people on these rags you want to explain yourself no I don't think I need to explain myself I feel like they'll never be replaced dude I think America will be really pissed replaced anyway they'll just make alternates like they had the Susan B. Anthony silver dollar they had the gold Sacajawea dollar they will have alternates and things of that nature that will probably come out but the mainstays will probably stay for a while what do you think would happen if they said Lincoln's going and we're putting Martin Luther King on there I think there would be fucking riots I don't think people would tolerate that I think that you would Lincoln is like if you're replaced Andrew Jackson maybe man I don't know I feel like if you replaced any of these guys people would be really upset I was going to say what do you think would happen if that was the situation do you reckon people would be pissed or we'd be entering some kind of like fucking crazy sort of war thing well I guess it's the thing I feel like they're all on there for a reason because you basically got on all of the most significant figures in US political history maybe I feel like they might be able to get away with replacing Grants but I don't think I'd be happy with that yeah I think people would it would depend like you might get rid of Washington or Lincoln or Benjamin Franklin those are the big three but Jefferson you're not getting rid of Jefferson I don't think you'd get rid of Jefferson either yeah the two that you could probably get away with but I feel like the only reason you could get away with Grants because of is because he's more well known as like a general or at least he's more respected as a general than he was as a president yeah I don't know when winning the war people are saying that they try to get rid of Jackson apparently at some point hold on do I am I trying not to get mixed up Andrew Jackson was let me double check I'm going to leave now just root into a rough because you guys don't pass non stop okay good night I'm tired good night Moodle yeah that's all I got okay good night nothing Heimers well I'm just reading that with Jackson that apparently his reputation got worse because of stuff to do with Native Americans and things that were happening at the time but again that almost feels like another thing of like I don't want to start yeah I don't want to start pushing that well if you start doing that everybody suffers including like the people who we consider to be Paragons including us eventually they'll definitely come for us of course we will never be able to go on the bills by the way did you guys know Andrew Jackson killed Charles Dickinson is that like a meme or is that hold on it was a dual I was figuring that's a when you say Charles Dickinson who that I know Charles Dickins I know I don't know Dickinson yeah it's just what I heard it was just a random blurb so I just thought I'd throw that out like I knew it he was an American attorney and a famous dualist and he died in a duel with Andrew Jackson nice you got killed by the president of America that's pretty cool something I guess the interesting thing would be like if they add $200 bill you know if inflation gets that point who would be the guy who gets his face on that one the guy? wow Fringy wait have they capped out at $100 they haven't made any bills higher than that I think hundreds the highest I'm honestly kind of surprised because there's a lot of money in America right now there was a $10,000 bill well there was a trillion dollar bill as we know in The Simpsons I have a I think it's a $5 trillion bill from Zimbabwe it's like $5 if it was somebody just said Teddy Roosevelt I feel like everybody would be happy with that I would be totally cool with Teddy Roosevelt I was sitting here thinking Woodrow Wilson is like I wonder if that would be controversial because and talking about the highest bill there was a $10,000 bill featuring president Lincoln's secretary of the treasury Sam P. Chase like the fish it was the highest denomination to ever publicly circulate but there was a $100,000 bill with the portrait of Woodrow Wilson but its purpose was just to transfer funds between federal reserve banks and it wasn't ever in retail transactions however I think the way that the official money rules uh oh oh no what's happening discord is clearly not working the important thing is wait no chat's not working technically right I think Nichols a what are they called a one second a okay so a buffalo nickel or an Indian head nickel like some of these old coins that they don't print anymore like an Indian head nickel even though you're working on my end but chat is dead so chat's working for me wait rags go back rags still going did rags not even notice rags still yapping rags is back rags help I can hear myself on the stream now um what happened yeah I don't know because from my end I don't know what happened yeah I can hear myself so that means we can so it seems like everything's working but Mola can't see chat and also I can't hear rags and frogoid um but Moller's gone well maybe what's the chat saying it's yeah because I well we can't hear it and it seems like nobody maybe wait see to see if it pops back up if like we can start hearing them again and Moller dead oh and now chat's just totally this but now Moller is back I can hear rags and fringy no Moller no Moller now chat's back on screen yeah chat never stopped for me uh I think oh Moller we can hear you looks like we're back on don't quite understand what happened there because different things I think it was just a minor stroke from a PC which is still to be expected with everything that's been happening with it but I think we should be okay we can hear it now and it looks like they're saying that Moller's back yeah I think I think it's all back up again um chat missed a very interesting explanation by rags relating to like old coins and stuff that went in circulation including like confederate money and it's valued now and uh yeah yeah so in theory right in theory alternate history the confederate states won the civil war and they got to be a country and they're still around right so if you had a 1890s dated circulation one dollar note from the confederate states of America you could go to your CSA bank or whatever it's still to the government technically it's one dollar but you would never ever exchange it for an active for a new note because the value of that historically would be insanely high absolutely I mean I think I just want to have it for the sake of a collection thing of like you know like man this is like a country that only existed for four years it is a very yeah confederate money especially around here is very valuable it's a super big collector's item uh the there's a local coin and stamp shop downtown that I've gone to and their most valuable stuff is confederate state money somebody shot mentioned buffalo nickels which rags will cement as well buffalo nickels indian head nickels liberty dimes these things are still technically yeah uh it's got a picture of I think Columbia on it ah so liberty dimes were between 19 no sorry mercury dimes sorry mercury dimes mercury diamond with a helmet yeah so they were between 1960 and 1945 technically if you were to find and uh let me pull up this chart real quick do do do if you were to find a 1916 mercury dime from Mark D for the uh uh sorry what's it called the place that makes the money the god what are those places called the are you talking about the mint the mint yeah so I think there are two mints in the United States if you found a 1916 mercury dime from the mint labeled as D ever gets what it is that's uncirculated that's nine thousand dollars man however it's a it is a dime technically 10 cents you could use it for 10 cents but well be an insane crazy person to do that I mean there's there's a great example right of like the the sort of way that money is valued in terms of like the role of the state and stuff like that like as far as the state's concerned that's worth like yeah 10 cents but in terms of the value that's described to it by society at large which kind of can't be regulated and it could be if you printed on now you couldn't because it's like a certain amount from that particular time like the value of that is super crazy hi apparently there was a centennial version of the mercury one that was printed in 2016 um and they were selling it the demand was so high that the orders were no longer able to be placed within 45 minutes of the coin becoming available apparently they sold like 122,000 that time the remainder which included as many as 8000 to 9000 coins that were unsold or returned to the mint were offered on sale December 15th 2016 with a limited one per customer and sold out within 90 minutes um one time while I was at this will probably be this actually might be applicable to a lot of people so be actually aware for this and looking out for it because this has happened to me multiple times one time I went to a McDonald's I was desperate and I bought some stuff there and I got change in coins as many years ago back when I actually used coins and one of the coins that they gave me was a buffalo nickel and it was like it's like I still have it somewhere with the rest of my coin collection it's probably worth anywhere between 5 and 20 bucks right but it just gets sifted in with the rest of the coin and the person handed it to me didn't even notice I even said something I said you realize that this is a buffalo nickel right and the person that they don't they don't know what the fuck that was I just let them know and I know I wouldn't have given it back um but yeah it's just uh it's just one of those things where that stuff just gets mixed in and people don't even notice it and that's the kind of stuff that you could just so happened to get and I think all nickels made before 1965 had real silver in them so well but I'm not sure about that the buffalo nickel according to Wikipedia had a composition of 75% copper and 25% nickel um in fact it seems like they have these so the mercury dime was 0.9 silver or 0.900 silver 0.100 copper and in 2016 it was 0.999 gold oh boy that's cool this says that nickels in the United States minted between 1942 and 1945 or 35% silver and they're known as silver war nickels apparently the uh the mercury dime was was replaced because they had a new design that had Roosevelt's FDR's face on uh on on it shortly after he died wait oh that's the current one that's your current dime I didn't know that right is the silver what about the your current dime has uh FDR's face on it and that was the one that replaced the uh the mercury uh dime because I don't know what's on your coins because over here all of ours have Queen Elizabeth on on them your lord and saviour well yeah technically I had a state nickels I think I have Jefferson on them nickel oh all right now I need to know whose faces are on are on us coins so Lincoln's on the penny right you have the nickels and then Thomas Jefferson's on the nickel it says uh FDR is on the um the the dime George Washington's on the quarter yeah um Sackage on the US $1 coin what we skipped one we skipped our 50s which is I don't blame you most people a lot of people might not even know we have them but our biggest coin is the 50 cent piece uh they're not common at all uh but sometime like when I go to the bank I will say do you have any two dollar bills and 50 cent coins half dollar coins and generally they'll have them they just they just get them and it's I used to would use them to pay with things just because it's nifty and unusual to pay for things with just two dollar bills because they're not a common bill and half dollars I've got some of them but I don't spend them just because they're not as common but yeah 50 cents or half a dollar but very very in common you rarely ever see them he sends a rapper that's true he's not a school though half dollars super cool it's got JFK on it and it's so big it says the liberty and all that all that shit it's got the big seal of the president of the United States of America on the back and it's big so you can I see yeah because because again Wikipedia which I'm reading off of has all of these listed nice and conveniently so that you can see there's by the way I of the art on bills I really like the back side of the two dollar bill which is the signing of the declaration of independence on the back of which one sorry of the two dollar bill ah huh let's see let's see what fun oh yeah that's very and it and it fills out the sides a whole lot with its its pattern yeah on the other side but you do you rarely see two dollar bills over here like like I said the only way that you really are going to get your hands on them is at the bank where they just accumulate you can you can just go to the bank and exchange like hey how many two dollar bills do you have and they count them like I've got $20 worth of them and you just you know exchange I'm uh now I'm starting to wonder because um Australia used to have the Australian pound that's what they had for really long time and I think in the 70s they replaced with the Australian dollars so like all of our money is super new and it makes me wonder if part of the reason why like the the US dollar and all of them look so different and kind of almost in a certain sense not as sophisticated in design as like the the Australian dollar in terms of how many like little details are crammed in there if that just is just fundamentally because these these uh these paper you know money were designed a lot earlier than the uh I think there are more details than you might think I don't mean to uh I'm not like I do see what I do see I do see what you mean though yeah because it's just older and it it gets you know it well I mean in terms of the Australian dollar what I'm referencing is that there's like microscopic text that you need a magnifying glass to see that is on the money as part of a as part of this sort of you know so prevent counterfeit and like that seems like something that could have only been possible in modern times with the technology that we have now yeah yeah printed up that small whereas with these ones these were designed a lot earlier than that we went to dollars in 1966 right yeah that's what I've got actually got I could go get my coin collection later but you can have sometimes you find old bills bills don't last the longest coins for obvious reasons but you can get sometimes you'll find old bills in the older $5 bills will just they will clearly have a different design to the new $5 bills so it evolves over time and it changes but that I think feel like their window of change isn't as big but they'll even still I've still got some that still say of these bills that you can exchange it for silver from the government that used to be a thing that you could do is like yeah if you basically you go to the feds and you just say I want this in silver you can exchange it they stopped doing that a while back but it's something that used to I have I have money I have Japanese no no no I have Philippine pesos issued by the Japanese Imperial Government from that little window in time money's great I need to start getting back there's a lot of history and money now that you've introduced me to this because now again on Wikipedia the greatest resource in the world they have like this list that just shows all of the old variance of the $2 note that's what I'm looking at you have all of these different designs with like the history of just like the $2 note has written on it hey this is legal tender that is all public debts and private except duties and imports and interest in the public debt it's like man it's like the explicit purpose of the money written on the money and that's something that is kind of that's really cool they just didn't know as much back then they didn't know what that money stuff was for I was going to say it relatively recently Britain like switched its notes from being much more papery to much more plasticky our new stuff is I think it's because the plastic is stronger it could be that super hard to counterfeit yeah I think that's what it supposedly yeah because it can be like transparent in some parts well that's what the Australian dollarware has like the notes have these little transparent symbols in the corner and that makes it difficult to copy toy money I mean it works this is so good just interesting yeah I've got all kinds of stuff from different companies I got old Nazi money that stuff always talk about something that keeps its value anything with a swastika on it keeps its value that is historically significant stuff I've got some coinage from World War 2 that's made out of like aluminum because they were saving the important metals for the war so these coins would just be weightless in your hands they feel fake because they changed the metal that they were using during the war and it feels like it's plastic which is very strange when normally they don't have like metal metal there's all kinds of really cool stuff like oh yeah so a lot of Nazi currency the coinage later as the years went on for the Nazis and things weren't looking so good and they needed more and more and more metals for the war effort they started swapping over their coinage to lower quality metals and so in later years of the war a lot of the coins that are left from the Third Reich will be all rusted they'll be green because they started using metals that would rust they would just oxidize all the good stuff was going to guns and bullets and stuff so it's one of those things where like oh this is that way because of this reason in history and it's like having it in your hand in that sense and sort of having it in front of your face it's this interesting connection to I think that's that's one of those on a broader level there's a lot of the time where you just like remember it's like oh yeah things need to be moved to certain places and you need like the infrastructure and you need the materials and to do all of these things and it can be really easy especially in the world we live in now to just assume that like oh what are you talking about you know like it's just the stuff we just make stuff and it's there and it's really easy to make and it's really easy to get around the world and you don't have to deal with shortages so I guess now more so we're getting reminded stuff like that with the micro process of shortage yeah yeah I hope that all of these quirks of history don't disappear but who knows it maybe it's just I don't know maybe we just it was good while we had it but who knows was it coins are have always interested me they have this there's something really historical about them and the way that they're made why are things on them as they're on them coins will outlast the governments and empires that they came from I mean that's clearly like the Roman coins and everything yeah the I think I've got one I think I have an old Roman coin in my collection it's super cool to have like have one of the ones that have Augustus on it you know the Roman Empire for Alexander the Great I mean you did like collect stuff from the Roman era but you were just unfortunate you kept collecting things which is kind of a little embarrassing like ah this is actually a I don't know what is it embarrassing thing you could have it's just like a fucking age old dildo or something but it's from Romans it's pretty cool it's from Rome come on it's cool it's gonna be worth it's interesting to look at right you're like yeah I don't know a Roman coin with Alexander the Great I was talking about a coin with Alexander the Great's face on it not specifically a Roman can't win I want a Roman coin with Washington's face I want a Roman coin with go back in time and put it on there and then dig it up could you imagine that would be really funny if you had a time machine go back in time put the face of a modern person on there and like you know bury it in the sand and then go and then go back to the future dig up that coin and be like hey look at this like you could carbon data and you could prove that it's like 3000 years old and it has the face of a very well known recognizable figure in the modern history you could trick people into thinking there were times that sounds like a reveal in some sci-fi movie like they pick up the coins and it's like wait a minute and it's like a face from the future but on the past come on what happened then the credits hit and you have to find out next time figure it out next season the fucking alias did that don't ever tell you like alias one of the seasons and someone in chat will be annoyed because they haven't gotten this right but don't worry about it so there's a season where her best friend is killed and replaced with a secret agent and it's almost for the whole season I'm pretty sure that she never finds out but we know like the whole time or at least halfway through or something and the finale is she finds out and they have this huge fight and like I think it ends with our protagonist succeeding but like almost bleeding out because she's like dying whatever she like blacks out and then she wakes up again but she's in like the middle of China and then it just cuts the credits that's the end of the season oh it's like um okay what the fuck just happened if you have a time machine you could trick people into believing you were a time traveler no I was saying you could trick people into believing that other people were time travelers not you another one that's what I find more interesting is that she's like I think it's the end of like season three or four everything's victory we did it everything's great and we won and she's in like a car she's driving with her um the guy she's known since like season one who she's now I think married to and we've had that long with him then he goes it's time I tell you the truth she's like what he goes my name isn't the name that you think it is and I'm not who you think I am I haven't been this whole time either before you have like an answer to what the fuck's going on with that they both get hit by a car and then it just cuts the credits so alias was made by JJ Abrams right well everyone's saying mystery box and Shaz like literally alias is one of the funniest shows for that it'll just be like hey this is true now you're like what um but I don't remember it being like terrible I need some good stuff in alias I just have to rewatch it and then he would do oh yeah it smells like a JJ production when you watch it it's like scary movie yeah except serious and like actually a show that wants to be like serious drama right oh you did 100% I think people even got to the point where they were hoping for some crazy nonsense to happen at the end of seasons man that's I feel like that's not going to be a great position to be in like the writer of something that people are watching just to see how stupid it'll be yeah man it's taking rags a while to find his ancient coins he's probably gone down to his like ancient seller he's had to like complete some tasks and puzzles rags on this like adventure right now with his little torch and uh little gear so we're gonna cross ropes and battling some monsters we're just like running away from gold wow let's see the coins we're cool maybe he's getting in his time machine to go get the coins yeah we could watch the remaining 30 seconds of philmento's ad while he's gone alright yeah let's do that actually alright sell us the wallet philmento all of which you can get with extra's minimally smart wallet which due to these specific positives of course then earns the definitive title of the greatest wallet i had to use the loo i'm glad i went looking for that even though i can't find it at the moment um because i found some i found my old ipod nano the first gen ones the original ones oh my god yeah i got one back there we thought you might have been in a dungeon or whatever fight i had actually i did have to poo for whatever reason moving around i say yeah i found some nifty stuff yeah i found um my old box up there i don't think it was the first gen one but it might be dslite alright so it was the old the chunky one i think so i think it was a chunky boy well i had the chunky boy but then i switched mine for a light yeah i found some interesting stuff there i need to go through all that stuff see what i was missing found a little stash of bullets and everything i didn't even know i had who knows what who knows what treasures await yeah speaking of which who knows what treasures at the end of this video 24 seconds left do it oh boy so jugginside if you want to actually step up your world game click the link below and check out xster right now with a special 20% off film mental discount as always yeah after checking out their wallets i don't know if this ad here really conveys a bit of grandeur and elegance that they try and portray on their website for who this this item is marketed to you need to have michael bay film footage and then just like the the sleek cars and the cool explosions and stuff and then just be like yeah also i have this wallet of course you do thanks for watching alright that's it alright man bad yeah that was really shit so yeah the tomorrow war is really bad guys i think they probably got that message from what we said like vaguely i think they may have picked it up i hope so yeah because it's pretty it's pretty bad we waited 90 minutes for that there were people who were literally like can you please continue this is like there ain't anything left guys that's it it's just gonna tell you to buy a wallet and plus i think it was an interesting detour into the history of coins and i think it was too that was fascinating i know i've got some interest in stuff in there i just i gotta go through all my things i haven't really been up there in a while my first graphics card is like in there in a box i like i said the og pod nano was in there i noticed i was just kind of looking through the boxes all kinds of different peripherals and things some old like boxes and books and just stuff that you just forget out that you have over time i need to go through and go through there and hell on the e-fap 150 app right i just here's what i found what i went going through the closet what interesting things have i uncovered oh look it's this i didn't even know i had oh look fall out new vegas on xbox 360 collector's edition i could find i could find a little gnome that's true rags you have to help me and you're like no no no you stay in there no this is your gnome place this is your gnome place you don't get to leave the right you're my prisoner gnome still don't have rights this is like oh man nobody's coming to help nobody knows you here nobody cares that doesn't make you feel no your property you you made as much to me as my table he's like no he gets locked in the box kicked down the stairs yeah he falls into it rags i just has like a box with no it's an endless pit box talking to him he does say no but then as it ends he goes no i'm pretty sure that's like the entire drug structure for those Sherlock gnome like movies it's just puns with gnomes genius which means we would now go on to super chats oh boy yeah i'm a little too tired strap on i'm just gonna read them out instead of playing games i'm that chill right now wow i don't know how long i'm gonna last though we ain't gonna really get through all of them i'm afraid but we will do our best where are we clickety-clack they will this is the thing guys like this next week i'm not gonna be able to catch up streams um we'll do the anniversary and then after that we will catch up with every last one um which will make sense by the way you got lots of stuff that's gonna be coming soon stuff we can be like oh wow that and that and that it's like yeah so anyway the first one says hi rags hey there the next one we've had this one every stream lord longbone of muclington abbey i'm sorry to bother you again but have you given any thought to a kongfab of peter jackson's long kong p.s. our wagsies which is for the good boy oh thank you um yeah just every time it may happen i'm starting to think you do this every stream on purpose and so i will now start answering it as yeah probably we will probably do it we will we will probably have a kongfab we watched the movie like we legit had plans to it was just on our list of things that we need to do that got swallowed up by all the other things that we ended up doing we did for kong v godzilla they're talking about um peter jackson kong oh that one yeah that was always on the table but we never really said a it's crazy kongfab is godzilla it almost happens so many times and we never saw it yeah it was it was yeah it was brushing with destiny for weeks but it just never just never got there other things came out we watched so many things but it just took a backseat to those don't worry guys i'm sure it's awful you don't need us to tell you that what would you rather fight 10 emu sized giraffes or one giraffe sized emu 10 emu sized giraffes or i i would rather fight the 10 emu sized giraffes because i feel like a giraffe sized emu is just like a dinosaur it's it's a something out of a dungeons and dragons manual like i don't want to mess with that but i i feel like at least with the 10 i could isolate one or two and what if they're really hostile though and like the numbers i assume they are but i think that the kill and death potential of a smaller giraffe is going to be more manageable than a like because it's like an emu is bad enough but an upgraded emu and not just an upgraded emu a super upgraded emu yeah just be on a different level of deadly yeah i think so with an emu is is there a is there a possibility here that we could tackle it by grabbing those legs and just even if it's a size of giraffe and then just trying to go for that neck and crush it no i think it would be too big that'd be tough because it could because an emu could like jump up and do all kinds of stuff and i i don't want to get anywhere near its legs because that's those are its weapons and i it's true i worry because we learned today about the giraffe kicking and i wonder if ten of them and they're all trying to get you i wonder if it's going to be tough to deal with i i here's the thing i think that a giraffe generally kicks in defense of itself um so if it's trying to chase you its ability to kick you with its hind legs is going to be difficult so that will limit its ability to be able to kick you because it's trying to pursue you and chase after you if this is i'm more concerned about the neck because that's how drafts like draft males compete over females i think they just bashed each other each other with their necks huh yeah i guess i would need to see how giraffes fight typically then i'd be able to make a more short fire gas i don't know i obviously wish to go for the one more ever more a higher chance of survival but i just don't know which one that may be now maybe there's aspect it would be well i don't want to i don't want to keep it harping on um stuck in a rabbit hole and we'll just giraffe hole right very common for giraffes giraffe hole yes it's where giraffes are born oh yeah they yeah welcome to the world and you just it's really cute yeah the g-hole i've read somewhere don't remember exactly where the giraffe's kick can capitate a lion i think springy might have read that one um yeah it's pretty fucking neat if true in terms of like what a what a chad giraffe you'd feel like if he's trying to try to eat you give it one good kick and his fucking head falls off damn uh was the one who sent black rifle coffee last stream was testing if youtube was censoring or if my card wasn't working it was my card ah well hello there thank you hi wags hello molla you are less bonus yeah that's fair and subfrog daddy g he's uh he's currently BRB'd he shall return you shouldn't mess with zebras the daughter of the doctor that helps them will kill you too oh no very true there's always gonna be a doctor attached to any zebra you try and hurt you'll fuck you up or his daughter will uh you know what's the one good thing about the UK Australia and Canada that we have over the US we didn't butcher the English language we say zebra instead of zebra like plebians damn how do you feel about that right are you ok with that say that one more time somebody somebody here feels that um zebra is the absolute superior way of pronouncing the animals is animals name is that correct animals title name name yeah um instead of zebra I don't know I don't really care I don't know which ones better we just say it differently here wow there's like we say like we have like in the our alphabet we say z and you guys say zed and maybe that's like a zebra zebra thing maybe hmm yeah zebra I'm gonna catch this late because I'm making major progress on my 5 plus hour DMC 5 review shameless self-advip I'm gonna keep the bad bowl rolling um hope you've all been doing well big love and respect for you guys keep up the fantastic work well thank you and you too 5 hour videos can be quite a stressful experience I hope it all goes well draft slap each other with their necks to fight well yeah as you mentioned is it the loser is just like ah my necks hitting too much I'm out and none of this shit ow stop it who would win in a cookoff tonald or Hasan's mum hmm oh tonald is if all you're doing is just cooking chicken nuggets you're bound to get start getting you you're slipping yeah this is the thing you're not able to practice like you need to and yeah don't know what her cooking prowess really you know amounts to if we're only seeing nuggies and that's it you know mm-hmm meanwhile tonald whoo he's he's cooking up a whole banquet through all efap related content what has been the hardest going to get through you've covered or anything you've given up on because it was so bad so it's really tough to get through for me the one today is one of the highest scores for difficulty I think we were all having yeah um the good question that's the cause for the voice a big part of it is his annoying voice he puts on it fucking sounds terrible and it's grating on my ears and it just just it's a frustrating voice to have to listen to movie Bob's pretty bad if you remember we'd have to slow him down in order to be able to understand what was even happening and movie Bob would speak in complete fucking nonsense but like hardest video I'm really not sure I could pick one I'm not sure I thought it was frustrating he's funny though I do consider pretty funny he's funny but also frustrating so fucking melodramatic about every little thing that ever existed the end of the world he by the way is like trying to get his audience to convince him to make a Black Widow video because he just doesn't care about the film I find that so funny he's like guys it would be good for views but like I don't care about it it's like oh man the struggle humans initially performed endurance hunting we literally just keep chasing things until they died of exhaustion we were all just fat these days lol it makes sense we're not doing that anymore you could do that with big lizards around here when I was in scouts and stuff we were in the woods often and you'd have pretty big lizards around and you could just like literally run them down they would just wear out too quick and especially if you're a spry young lad and you could just go for it for a long time they wouldn't stand a chance you just wear their ass down and then you catch them just to say you caught them and then you let them go and that would be that and the lizard was probably very confused by all this fucking humans so weird I was almost as pretty sure as a video you didn't finish it's like we never finished the Quinton TRO video I don't think we only got we got to like an hour and a half I think those are the two streams do you remember those days rags episode 9 and 10 that was no 8 and 9 no I don't remember 8 and 9 because 10 is what it's here if I saw the video it would probably jump start my memory and I'd know exactly what it was because I guess that's just how I am but yeah pulling it out of thin air I just do not remember it was crazy the thing it was like three years ago you know it just time is a mystery time is a mystery a velvet rope it's like two boats or something yeah giraffes have the same number have of neck vertebrae as humans theirs are just much larger neat hey I got banned on that stream I'm so proud I was ogre lord 69000 I misspelled obey as oh obey with an A but it was worth it to be banned by Hassan I rags and frog I'd say it's a badge of honor but he bans anybody so I don't know yeah is it a badge of honor if he's like all you have to do is just go hello he's like whoa like neat that's neat but I wouldn't go any further than that yeah you guys finish TRO I watched a few days ago what we did with TRO is we skipped from like an hour and a half to the end I think so we I don't think that counts as finishing it we like skipped over 20 minutes maybe one day episode 1000 we will return to the unfinished portion of that video because it'd be funny his video was shit we've covered a lot of shit videos I would say I see a lot of requests for specific e-fap movies idea set up a patreon or equivalent and have low tier donators vote on what movie to watch in high tiers decide what movies appear on the poll and we banned them there are a lot of ways to do that that would be efficient monetarily but that's just not the way it's decided we go with what we're all interested in seeing that's the best way to do it honestly fun fact there was a horse versus humans long distance race and there was a year when a human won the race high rags so is that like the idea is that they both run and they just have to keep running the first one to stop losers or is it it would depend on how far they both go I guess I was curious how that's determined would it be a certain length that they have to run and the human just did it faster I figure if say for example just to make this easy if they both went to 10 meters and they both fell over it's like oh they're pretty much the same but if the horse made it to 10 really fast and the human made it to 11 but slightly slower would the human win or would they lose because they came second I don't know yeah I'm not sure I'm beginning to wonder if urban fantasy even good ones like Buffy can ever have good world building your opinion and how would you fix the problem I'm assuming they're talking about trying to integrate stuff like demons and orcs and whatever else into like like bright where it's like a normal world I guess that's the problem is it depends on where it starts if the urban fantasy like if you if you just had a contemporary normal setting and then you dropped a bunch of fantasy elements in like some event happen and then that credited you can that would be easier to work with then trying to create a world where magic always existed but for whatever reason we ended up in the same place yeah that's where the problem comes in if you're like we've got all the fantasy stuff but we're still kind of in the exact place you all understand and recognize just like that seems unlikely yep and so you'd have to create something kind of new I feel like that's just sort of like a that's a market to be tapped sounds like it could be cool well yeah it could be thoughts on a ghost story I don't know what that is I'm not sure I've not seen it finally I got you live on a day off you damn long noids I will last till the end the end I tell you hi rags hi there easier said than done well let's see if they lied clob muck are you in chat right now hmm hmm because it's eight nearly nine hours later see if you lied got my eye on you hmm enough about hero rats how about God geese God geese wonder how effective they are hmm I'm a guess how his response will go Hassan maybe loud geese are loud hmm maybe they can deafen their opponents hmm I'm a guess how his response will go Hassan you know you know these guys they just don't don't get it you know assholes yeah that's pretty much how it went hmm so he didn't understand the what he's doing is something he's done forever and that um as soon as the youtuber says to stop he will and that's fine and the youtubers should be able to just move on it's fine it's a very underwhelming response but simultaneously he fucking hates our guts so the content is terrible without having seen it scathing apparently yeah something about our name I guess this e-fap that sounds dirty and geese it's probably terrible um would you rather be killed by a Komodo dragon a gimpi gimpi plan or piranhas um fuck it I'll take my chances with the Komodo dragon I think when you say take your chances you get killed in all of these three so I hope that it will be the quickest of them all even though I know the Komodo dragons are like pretzy not quick in terms of like the method that's my hope right is that the venom will kill me or at least numb the pain um piranhas gimpi gimpi is obviously out of there's no way I'm not taking that one and piranhas is another one where it's like man I don't want to be bitten to little bits by a bunch of people I don't want to be devoured in bites little piranha bite sized pieces and the fuck that I'll take my chances with the poison yeah let's do the Komodo dragon these are all horrifying I just don't know I feel like gimpi gimpi has to go because it's like for what I understand the worst pain in existence base what seems that way and also think about what it means to die by that you're dying by pain not by trauma to your body if someone said the pain is so extreme it like knocks you unconscious and you die from that doesn't seem to be how it works so it seems like because of course the example is that the pain was so bad that a man chose to end his life rather than deal with it oh well I don't know how it works it's in like have we done tests with many subjects well I mean the problem is it's like it seems like you it's incredibly painful but you're aware of the pain and that there's not much that you can do to stop it at that point I was going to say probably depend on the amount of piranhas because if there's this and I guess I just need to know the time the times on how long it takes to kill because if they told you the piranhas will kill you within two minutes and the Komodo will take ten minutes what would you choose then the piranhas one and the Komodo ten I guess by virtue of that I'd probably take the piranhas because it'll be over quicker somehow I imagine that it's just so much more horrifying to be eaten by piranhas than Komodo Dragon I think that's the reason why it feels like piranha feels like a really bad way to go I feel like I can like it's more imaginable like you can imagine it in the sense of I can't imagine what it's like to be like to die of like a venomous bite or something I feel like I'm going to take my chances with that because I can imagine how terrible the other one is I'm picturing him like eating a whole leg of mine off and I'm getting fully infected and bleeding out and I'm just like this almost feels a little normal as a death I guess that's the thing Komodo Dragon feels more akin to like dying by bear than piranha which feels like a really piranha feels like you're losing small portions of yourself until you no longer alive that's some of that surreal horror stuff I guess that's what I mean is like if my leg gets bitten off I'll be dead super quick because I'll bleed out so like I feel like I'll take the Komodo Dragon if it remains losing the limb I think I agree with the chances thing with the Komodo yeah yo yo yo Fringy and short Fatotaku did you know that orca whales are known predators mooses crazy fact right what they eat moose I guess if you have enough coastline in Canada maybe I was going to say I feel like orcas would fuck up anything that they are able to get in its sort of habitat well yeah that's the top of the food chain it's not just they're also super smart at killing things they even use their environment and stuff apparently they hunt in groups as well like wolves yeah hello massives if destroying cause and effect as Loki does is a deciding factor for it being a 1 out of 10 what a factor to decide between 2 instead of a 3 and so on thanks for what you do it's getting more difficult nowadays when everything's either a fucking 2 or 3 but um I don't think we have any criteria set in stone a lot of this is based off of its comparison to other things well he has an interesting idea if Loki as a show was as broken in terms of its will building in time and all that shit but the character work was phenomenal I'd have to wonder what our rating would actually be like it has to default to 1 or would we be like the characters are fucking great but the whole world is kind of broken in terms of how time works and how the world works and how choices have become fucking meaningless so it'd be pretty complex I think it could because yeah I think it could the distinction between plot and character is gonna be clear enough I feel for the most part that you can make specific points on either but so I feel like it can I was talking about this the other day it was like the story line is the line of cause and effect all running smoothly if you split it up into all of the lines so like one scene for example they're all lining up to attack each other in civil war there isn't if you highlight one break in that that it destroys everything because you've got a line for every character as well as whatever wheel building led to it as a line and then just like plot reasoning for certain things so for example we talk thoroughly about how black widow being there and everything she does is really good ant man not good spider man good iron man not good cap good black panther not good eventually be like so we're looking like a 50-50 split here as opposed to if someone said well no one motivations broken the whole scene is broken so what I'm saying is like that one out of 10 for Loki is probably something we should have made more clearly I really don't feel it's simply representative of how they've broken reality it's also because everything else is fucking terrible too like it doesn't you know I think there has to be consideration given to the good stuff like it's almost like a combo where in some games you can only get so high if you combo things maybe like a combination of everything almost gets it extra badness in the sense I don't know like I said a lot of the stuff that we make in terms of where things fall on the 1 to 10 scale is in relation to other things so in theory it gets more accurate over time and it gets more robust over time but I'm definitely fine with the idea that if you do good character work it can it can elevate and raise up we've already done this for the Nevers right yes I feel like the character work is strong enough that it elevates a generally not good plot yeah the plot's not very strong in fact it's funny because I'm trying to think how is the world building in there was it okay is that what we would say I don't remember I think it's okay and I don't want to confuse world building with just aesthetic of the world so I'm talking about all the sci-fi shit I don't know what to say in case someone's looking to watch it um so like origin of powers how they interact and what so all the governing bodies and what they've chosen to do all that sort of stuff seems mostly fine from what I remember fine yeah I was about to say just about to say fine if you take it all out I feel like it's fine it's just a lot of the specifics of events that take place are really tizmy yeah and and sort of I guess the point I was trying to make was if you have a line for each character a line for each of those things and several broken for several in place like if you break them all especially the world of course it's just like it's automatic failure or at least close to failure which is the other one out of 10 is what we save it for um because I was thinking about infinity tizms it's like it's not like we really did a great effort of deciding if the characters were on point in that so maybe perhaps we judged it too harshly and perhaps it would be considered a high one compared to Loki's low one like Loki was pathetic he's got nothing going for it like there's just nothing um well yeah we have high and lows of every number except the 10 so I'm fine with the one having high ones and low ones I guess in the same way that we don't have a high and low for zero right oh yeah because it's not even like a story at that point yeah maybe there's some maybe once you get to the extremes you have the special cases but yeah I don't see a zero even being a low one is probably the lowest you can get and so um yeah so they're asking like the difference between two and three it's like so all of those threads that are alive and well if um you know a lot of them are knocked out it could be a three very few things work anymore it's honestly this goes for two three four five six seven eight nine like we you try and spot like eyeball just how much continuity there is versus in continuity or discontinuity what word am I looking for there discontinuity is there a word for that uh inontinence I I'd be happy to call it that it'd be fun um why so yeah continuity versus incontinence in relation to writing and yeah I guess you try and weigh it up this is what happens at the end of each of our DC movie watches we all basically like give a number we're usually close um but then we start arguing to each other like why we feel that it should be higher or lower and we usually try to come into a conclusion um yeah so for sure Fatotaku has joined the far right left podcast I always knew he was the most extremist of Santrists yeah just came right on what would you rather have as a pet raccoons or red pandas um man that's tough red panda I think I think I'd want a red panda well the problem is I don't want to unsell raccoons cool factor in terms of block picking and stuff like that that's a fun little gimmick yeah but red pandas are pretty neat too and then the follow up what would win in a death battle a grizzly bear or a polar bear polar bear from what I understand the polar bear outclasses the grizzly bear bears yeah yeah and that's is that is that a matter of just size and power big and aggressive there you go now what is the most brutal death scene that you've seen in movies mine would be Quint's death in Jaws um honestly the first thing that comes to mind for me is from fucking Tombstone no not Tombstone sorry Bone Tomahawk that's it um where they do like the medieval thing the guy by his leg each person and then you just cut down and split them if that's what it's called I'm not 100% sure um that death it wasn't just the gore it was also the sounds um it's fucking horrifying and this is the thing I I'm not sure if it's the same for you guys but like there's a film called Hostel there's lots of films like this that are built for gore and they don't hit me the same way that um something like Bone Tomahawk did where I actually like kind of care about what's happening I'm invested and then something horrifying happens to somebody I mean I think it's the thing of like mortal combat like you never watch that and get like it's not uncomfortable because it's just so unrealistic it's just you can't buy into it but like if it looks realistic even if it's less graphic it can still be more disturbing oh Chernobyl that's another good one oh yeah that was tough dude the um there's so much good stuff in that show but when they like as towns people appreciating like the um the ash or something it's like you guys are dead like this just but they don't have no clue oh and the fucking dude who picks up the graphite oh yeah and his hand he gets that radiation burn for the glove yeah and like that starts happening almost right away and then I mean I remember it's been talked about but how effective it is when they look into the core and it's just like it looks horrifying they show it so briefly yeah it's the again you guys got to see Chernobyl it's so fucking good it's amazing I got some excellent actors for it as well yeah I love it it's such a great show I would highly highly highly recommend you guys check out Chernobyl talk about by the way Chernobyl is becoming in these videos it's it's like my go to for an excellently uh executed theme and it's not it's it's just it does it really really well so it's one of those not only does it do all these other things it actually does a good job of having an idea and a concept and add a element to it and doing it well overunder on how many his son albiters will pop up to accuse EFAP of stirring up unnecessary drama humor me chat also hello rag mula and Fringu hello I don't really expect response I feel like that's where it ends today I'd be surprised if you would want to keep anything going because you just say the same things which and there will be more and more people who will become like opposed to stance the thing I think we've done he knows there's nothing to gain I think we've done some good work in terms of like getting the message a little bit more exposed in terms of like what you do in his shit stop it right moving on like hope you guys can open up of his chat are actually like hmm maybe that EFAP lot you know they're obviously incels Star Wars fans were wrong about everything but maybe maybe they had a point on this one thing the seed has been planted they won't give up an inch well they'll get banned if they did so sounds banned EFAP in his chat I think it's done yeah I'd assume so a stingilless bumblebee the size of a cat is cool I think this is when we're talking about like imaginary pets that you could have is whatever you want a bumblebee the size of a cat without a stinger I worry about it when they fly around and I worry that the bumblebee would it be comfortable or would it be like would it do just sort of chill what would it do yeah cause it can't interact with flowers anymore you know it's too big you'd have to give it a special diet something to eat which I feel that it's I feel like you could have food for a large bumblebee pretty easily especially if it's just like a sugar based substance but I just I think in terms of keeping it happy it's like it's a bug I don't think they're that complex of a critter I don't think bees are too social there's that social element if you remove it they have a hive does it have a queen does it have a thing to do why are people saying hi dev is that another name for him yes it's short for Devastator what he's known as on these on these parts of the internet no I didn't get a notification for this stream wasn't able to put some nuggies in the microwave for this stream woe is me aww dude that's just this hell doesn't get worse than that as animals are domesticated they retain more and more adolescent features assuming that's true what wild animal would you domesticate for looks for looks I guess it's just like which animals do you consider to be the cutest when they were younger that aren't currently domesticated um there's a bunch yeah there's a lot once you start yeah a lot of the big cats like kittens are just generally cute same thing with dogs kittens and puppies are just really cute um well I was watching Clarkson's farm I fully recommend it anyone who has Amazon Prime it's waiting for you it's about Jeremy Clarkson doing a farm it's real funny and really engaging there's an episode where he's um having to birth lambs cause his sheep are obviously giving birth and like it's um there's loads of like bad things to it in terms of there can be stillborns you know there's lots of flesh and slime and blood and there's all kinds of things can go wrong but like there's this moment yeah there's this moment where there's a successful birth a little lamb gets out and it makes just a a shorter higher pitched version of the like bleeding that we've heard from all the other sheep for a while and it just starts walking around and I literally went aww and then Jeremy went aww it's just like a possible dot too cause they're like super adorable and um it's one of those things where like even he's just like you know what that part makes it all worth it but yeah animals are just often times very cute when they're young I think there's a lot of birds that are terrifying when young and then they get their feathers in and stuff and they look a lot more normal and you're like oh there you go birds are just like shit like there's some exceptions like chicks that are like chicken chicks and little ducklings those are cute when they're born but a lot of other birds once they're out of the egg they are just hideous awful creatures they're just monstrous little dinosaurs they develop well like an adult duck is cute um a sorry not an adult duck but like a good example well in fact like almost all normal birds like robins and sparrows and things when they are adults they retain their cuteness they're very lovable they have that Disney princess kind of thing going for them you know even adult ducks are often the image of cuteness people love ducks even though they're very they can't hurt you they're harmless they are very amicable they're social they're often going to be around people in the ponds and things they can get used to people quite a bit um they make they don't make unpleasant noises um they're super chill yeah there's a lot to like about ducks my first word was duck because we had a lot of ducks nearby so when I just picked it up that was my first word just duck nice um I want a Jabba Slythe from Warhammer Fantasy well let's have a look at what that is Jabba Slythe oh he looks big I guess if he's all like cute and small and he just does oh he's got a tongue on him well you know what you do you everyone's allowed to choose whatever they want uh Star Trek Enterprise explained why Klingons in the original series looked different by saying they had genetic tism Discovery changed the Klingons just for the toys and gave zero explanation Rotten Tomatoes gave Enterprise 55 and Discovery 84 yeah well I don't the critics are shit so I don't even well I was gonna say we've we've pretty much gone to the point where the critics ever praised something for how like it has cause and effect is that something they ever fucking do yeah especially now with how much how much so much stuff is politicized and how a lot of people who have these critic positions view things like that it poisons the process I just feel like part of it is that it would be too boring to do that go to go to do something else you know this is this is great things about this had this is a great allegory for the Vietnam war oh and when it comes to the the changing of things in Star Trek when you had like the Klingons were essentially just brown humans brown skinned humans uh they looked very similar to how humans looked in the original how I said OT original series and then in TNG they had a much more distinct look that my is my favorite look they just I think they look great in TNG they have such an awesome and same thing with Deep Face 9 they just have this great look to them um and then you know in the new shows they changed them to some bullshit I guess I'm fine with the idea of just not even addressing the reason for it and leaving that in the realm of a different era different show trying some new things while keeping the name like you have like in the original series for Star Trek all the fucking buttons and knobs of the 60s that were on this space spaceship it's like it's you know it's an old you know and how you can modernize things to have more panels and stuff like that yeah like it's always ways to escape that too narratively like we did a revamp of the fucking the ship we we felt like the technology it wasn't the you know that tech was from literally decades ancient times it was just like a style one of the captains really liked having an outlook that was more um retro something like that I don't know and like the new captains like no we don't want to do retro no more we'll do this one if you wanna you don't have to yeah but when you're changing like the look of entire races just leave it in the nudge nudge wink wink territory I don't even know I feel like any explanation you try to give of that stuff is gonna raise more questions than it could possibly solve and it's an issue that just just let it let it go just let it be a thing we all know why it's fine move on and focus on important things what is interesting right like the stories of the yeah episodes if the makeup on each slightly changes like skin tones are just a lot lighter than they used to be or if there's a third horn where there used to only be a lump okay I guess that's a horn now I think you can get away with just not saying anything just be like yeah there's different people but if it's like a dramatic change um and you can implement it it's just like I don't know I think you should probably go for it I think people appreciate acknowledgement if you remember when they um they morphed a black man into a different black man from Iron Man 1 to Iron Man 2 when Robert Downey Jr. first sees Rodie says something like wait oh shit you're here and then Rodie says yes this is me I'm here let's just get on with this or something like that it's like a meta line it's like yeah that's Don Cheadle that's not the other guy moving on like okay you can do stuff like that as I feel Rags kind of point out there it's like it would be a lot of work to try and justify it narratively instead of just being like let's just get on with it and it's like it's a risk reward thing too you have like nothing to gain from trying to explain that sort of thing really he's like I was in a car accident I had surgery I look like this yeah like nobody nobody cares and I don't want to make this like appeal like that's I think this is sort of a special thing where oh so you shouldn't care if not enough people care I'm like well you have so much money and time and budget and so much focus that you can give you need to focus on like actually important things like the plots of the episodes and the character interactions and things of that nature instead of trying to come up with these insane explanations as to why the entire race looks totally different than it did in the last series like we all know why go with it alright pick your battles they tried to explain the recasting of the Oracle and the Matrix films yeah I remember that it was like my form changes or something like that I think but the thing is like if you don't cause it made it worse than just not acknowledging it it's like I wonder though if it was never acknowledged that do you think people would just talk about it as like yeah she was just recast or do you think people would be like it was a bit jarring cause I didn't know who the fuck that was and it was like oh okay yeah I'm not sure I don't know it's hard to know exactly cause yeah cause Edward Norton to Mark Ruffalo that wasn't acknowledged at all I don't think there was no lines to acknowledge that whatsoever so you know it's leave it purely and like one of those leave it purely in the meta sorts of things yeah um it's tough to know exactly what choice to make I suppose cause a lot of people are asking like why did they switch actors for a Rody from what I googled when I wanted to know the answer to this pretty sure isn't that Terrence Howard I think he was very annoyed that he got paid very little compared to Robert Downey Jr of course he fucking did well I think at that point Terrence Howard's career might have been in a better position than Robert Downey Jr's I'm not sure I think they were like head to head helped him out a lot he saved his career well I say saved I think he would have been probably okay or whatever if he was still getting cast there's definitely put him into like a list you know super stardom Terrence was paid more than RDJ he was an Oscar winner but he was barely in the movie okay well there's something to do with pay I think it was something to do with his pay in the next movie cause I think he did get paid more but he was meant to get more and I can't remember I think that's what happened like I let's see Terrence Howard Iron Man 2 How many times did Grego Clegane get recast without explanation twice in Game of Thrones there are three people who played Grego Clegane and it was never acknowledged which again is fine I'd be a smart move just let it how do you explain it in universe I will be honest I still remember when I first saw Grego Clegane 2 and I was confused I was like who the fuck is this guy and I remember being referred to as Clegane and I was just like what oh oh oh alright we're doing this yeah it's kind of like I think the jarring aspect is something that's really only going to happen initially and as soon as you understand that's the thing you'll get over it pretty weak with the mountain it was weird but um the last guy that got to play the mountain was fucking seemed perfect for him I'm just sad that it amounted to what it amounted to he was a zombie the whole mountain was best yeah um oh yeah shit Terrence Howard is the guy who said one times one equals two and he has his own workings for it because of this whole thing he's published about how one times one actually equals two he's got like a whole system so according to him he was meant to get paid eight million dollars fine man too as part of the deal he had a three-pitch deal um then they said not one and according to him it was because Rob Downey Jr. was getting the other seven million he didn't paid more um that's his that's his claim anyway well yeah make of that what you will I wouldn't know exactly what happened there yeah and he seems to imply as well that he helped Rob Downey Jr. get the role in the first place um and that I guess he didn't think they got the support that he expected I don't know yeah it was the thing there's just so little about it that we know for sure yeah you never know who's who's saying what there's warped by their perspectives you know what actually happens is yeah and then we got Don Cheadle who has been in these movies for 11 years or whatever waiting to finally have his chance the patient boy he's nearly there didn't he tweet by the way because he got nominated for an Oscar for his role in fucking Falcon the Winter Soldier and he said I don't even know why because he was in it for like five seconds oh yeah you're right that'd be the guest star thing I think yeah you're right he did get he was all in it for one screen yeah I think he put on a tweet and said to be honest I don't get it either this is why did I get an Oscar nomination for this or Abby whatever I don't know it's infinitely hilarious because nobody knows why for reference he was fine like he just he was like expositional he was just like so you're gonna do someone with a shield and then he was like nah okay which animal would be the scariest to fight in an uprising apes don't count because they they will all cheat in an uprising the the scariest to fight in an uprising wouldn't the answer to this just be the which one do we want want least one to die to well um I which would be most deadly like we're trying to find out which ones would have a chance the bull they said which ones the scariest to fight against do we assume that they're intelligent enough to be organized or are they well they're doing an uprising or are they well they're doing an uprising for the purposes of the only enough only enough to organize only enough to organize maybe is how smart they are and it's not even it's just a phenomenon more than actual intelligence it would probably be some animal that we use for food maybe cows or because there's a lot of cows and stuff and they're pretty big and if a cow is on the war path they could probably fuck shit up and even though like they would lose because guns exist they could do a lot of damage and their initials just um oh birds so what so birds could they just gun for everyone's eyes you know I was thinking what about insects like if they had an uprising worldwide to be anti-human united yeah insects imagine ants that's kind of terrifying honestly yeah if dude ants there's no way we could stop them there's no way the ants have a new target which is like no yeah you'd have to develop some kind of strategy against ants that involves uh different kinds of liquids and fires smothering antagonists were ants that would have been more below oh that's the huge reveal at the end oh these are aliens you can just shoot them with bullets and they die and use guns but with ants it's like oh we gotta adopt we're not supposed to fight ants we have to develop strategies to fight ants we gotta we gotta lineage in this shit I like the idea that we find it infinitely scarier that insects just rise up around the world against humans than aliens invading it's like we can handle them we can shoot them but the insects like Jesus the insects yeah I mean I guess you could shoot ants but uh yeah there would be stuff like you have to once you get the system in terms of either canals that you flush or pesticides dirt yeah I think it'd just be about mass producing pesticides and then or insecticides well so this is the interesting thing I think that it's simultaneously scary that we have to like fight them and there's a good chance that they will take advantage of trying to get us at our most vulnerable like sleeping and stuff um I'm not you know I'm not entirely sure of exactly what they would do but I'm just thinking there's probably a lot of potential if insects were specifically just honed in on trying to hurt you but best times and stuff but then there's also the fact that if insects are attacking us and trying to fuck us over it might like affect the world's ecosystem significantly if they're all like yeah because people are saying like we can handle them it's like yeah probably but like I don't know why it needs to be spent eventually I feel like the problem that we're going to struggle with is it's going to be very difficult for us to reduce their numbers quickly enough to to stop them from replacing those losses like human losses would be harder to replace than ant losses I would imagine it anyway am I going to design tech and bunkers and stuff to make it so that bugs just can't get in or at least they can't without being detected I'm imagining that's where we'd end up if it got really bad yeah it would yeah it'd be mass production of pesticides and you know water places that are built into the water or like boats and islands and things gasolines and fire all kinds of stuff but yeah that would be certainly more of a concern than a lot of other potential options um yeah because like if we went with a more understandable choice right away it's like if polar bears rose up or something I feel like we just shoot them yeah I feel like it's handleable there's not that many and we have guns and it really wouldn't be a contest at all the polar bears wouldn't have a chance and for them to attack our lands it's going to cost them significantly to get here yeah but ants have there's this just expendability to ants and just the sheer numbers advantage that's only ants we're talking all insects man we're dealing with all kinds of crazy motherfuckers who can do all kinds of things imagine in Australia you got screwed if the insects start to uprise together so we would start breeding anteders we have an army of anteders to fight the trenches mula your enthusiasm for slave gnomes indicates your warped capitalist bourgeois world view asan baggins millionaires asan baggins millionaire I'm very pro gnome I just think that they belong in captivity that's where they thrive mula play card games because they're long hi doggy hi that's not another question they're not long compared to like even lego games lego games are like four times the size of a card game probably if that if not more yeah if you just want to burn through call of duty campaigns that wouldn't take you that long each one's like what eight hours maybe nine is like is it six to ten is like the probably the area most average well some of them are like four or five hours model for too short unholy unfollowed hassan because of this drama banning people who disagree with you is peak toxic masculinity behavior yeah no it's the peak sigma male grind set I would just like I would genuinely be curious like you don't even have to do it on a principled set which would be like what is it that you are entertained by on his stream I really want to know and you know it's not like an impossibility or anything what's gonna happen but like this isn't I didn't mean to actually exclude the fact that he's fucking done a whole bunch of things that would make you like not like him and does not want to watch his content but I guess I'm just stuck back at square one it's like why were you there and again not trying to insult anybody but why were you there I watched the whole eight hours free it almost killed me nobody should have to suffer that way yeah and there's people who do that every day that's what they want to do they also often wrestled with woe tech what time oh woe tech what's that bear yeah they did wrestle him phrase artillery bear something that needs to be we need more of that artillery bears they have artillery bears oh my god oh my god I guess you bears at us using artillery no no no no it's arguably better or worse I don't know I'm gonna bring chase ma'am and morty to poop on her son who's ma'am there's someone we've had on e-fab before that goes by the initials ma'am ma'am ma'ary already well no because they said and Morty and I'm assuming Morty's for Moriarty because he said he doesn't like to be called Morty Mark Mark after Doc would be mad but they said ma'am maybe it was a misspelling is ma'am a is that stand for M-A-M something Mark after Mark uh man and bustle most people think that it's just a misspelling so it probably was yeah but I'm afraid they missed their opportunity I'm sure it would have been hilarious but there will be plenty for them to laugh at in future I'm sure Mark after milk that could be it yeah I gotta get through a lot of milk I got a bunch of extra milk I gotta drink I believe in you yeah yeah it was gonna go bad so I took it so now I gotta do some extra milk luckily I love me some I love me some milk milk drinker love it um I'm usually hello as to the any pet question if we're including fantasy creatures I would like a dog sized xenomorph its name would be Frank I could see you doing it fire there I could see you doing it for like a cool factor but the thing is those things when left to their own devices make like horrifying nests with slime and go glooms just go all over your house if you've modified it to the point where it's like a dog and it's just chill and happy and stuff it's like I guess so I could see me doing that in like a video game I don't know how that would translate IRL having your actual pet be a xenomorph you know but it's fair yeah I don't know do you have acid blood and all that and it's just like the double do not fucking cut yourself little dog sounds like it's rags bedtime yeah I'm fucking yeah that's the thing I'm running on fumes right now I'm not gonna lie I'm not sure how much longer I can last myself what are you guys thoughts on the time crystal state of matter apparently some scientists made one using go Google's quantum computer I don't know anything about time crystals I'm gonna be honest I was gonna say at first I heard of it the time crystal state of matter sounds fascinating I will further talk on it the more I discover about it through maybe articles being written or people talking about it but yes as of now I know nothing of this looks like you're gonna have to ruin Hassan's grandma and free his mother from serfdom I'd also like to eat his duggies in front of him as a final stab this is the thing man if you know how to make Hassan care is this theoretical world because this wouldn't happen unfortunately the theoretical world we clone maybe the three of us because I want to carry on doing eFab and stuff but we make a twitch channel and all it is re-broadcasting Hassan and commenting on everything he says if it's an 8 hour stream that's just how it goes and eventually all of his viewers move over because they get the benefit of the Hassan stream plus the entertainment factor of ours and until it like seriously damages everything to do with him until he finally admits he's like ok yes stop re-streaming my shit you're just sniping me or something like that just to finally get him to sort of experience because you have to generate that scenario for it to make any sense to him it has to affect his viewers or his money for him to think anything is wrong but I was about to say like even in that scenario it just generates form the stream if we're doing it that way so maybe if we literally just re-broadcast re-bought hmm re-broadcasted it and his viewers just came to that stream instead and it just kept working that way until he stopped streaming other people's videos without commentary for some reason you know I'm trying to think of any way that would make him change his mind but it's um probably wouldn't happen unless of course all this shit happens with the uh the olympics and then twitch streamers are shut down by lots of people that's gonna be great we'll end up reflecting on us as well a twitch coup uh why must new movies have the cannon fodder run to mealy distance with guns and not shoot the suicide squad good rat question mark so we are seeing it on monday so give us two days chat and we will we will have seen it and it's very likely evap 149 will be a breakdown of the suicide squad um not 100% sure on that though because we got lots of things happening at once but I'm more than interested in seeing it it used to be excited to see it but I keep seeing lots of things being said and now I'm worried for the film I wanted it to be really good but now I don't know what's gonna happen so I just want to not read anything else from what people are saying so I can I can just watch it and then be like you know what it was a goodie or it was a baddie old you to it mutually no um more uh penguin massive welly wanker why you didn't show doggo and frogo layer cake with other two neat british films also play gta assay because um uh um I mean I could I'll show them layer cake eventually I also want to show them um rock and roller as a as a package of the three for the uh snatch and lock stock but then I also want to see I think it was called the gentleman which is his newest one that I don't know I'm nearly close to that I haven't seen that so you know that there's a million films to watch planning for them to show me of me to show them we'll get there eventually and we'll have all the hot takes don't worry uh hello everyone especially the hosts rags and so on hi molla bring in short fat otaku and I'll be your biggest fan um he was here when you said that so I guess you're my biggest fan oh my gosh wow um at dev watch out dev rags hates all anime except certain ghost in the shell shows so be prepared he he I'm guessing dev is like super into anime hmm well his name is short fat otaku oh it could be ironic I don't think it is I think he's big into the anime I like by the way that he left the stream he went for dinner or whatever like a like a date he came back he started up a stream of a dragon ball he's finished it he's probably gone to sleep now we're still going it was like yeah yeah it's weak so what do you guys think about the new side squad I thought it was okay but it does that dumb let's play music trend maybe five out of ten well in fairness if that's the worst of its sins I'm game you're allowed to play music in movies it's usually the execution we get frustrated by where it's jukebox versus like having any fucking purpose at all they're just like I want to play this song now I'll be by the way David A.R. said that in his version of suicide squad there is no fucking jukebox shit and that it's all an original soundtrack that interested me that is interesting actually it makes me where is this and I'm curious to hear it kind of just out of curiosity what did they what did they reject and replace with jukebox I will be honest right I don't remember any there must have been some original soundtrack in suicide squad right I don't remember any of it but I presume the film works better when it's not shoving pop songs in your face all the time or popular song just distracting cause this is the thing if a David A.R. cut existed I would probably be interested in checking it out at the same time I am that interested in checking out many directors cuts that they wanted of many films and so I don't really like the fact that he's like mine exists and is different I'm just like that's great I think that's the case for a lot of people I'm more interested in seeing the original Fantastic Four version the one that was supposed to be closer to like a horror film or whatever yeah greetings brood here is a little quiz for you who said it Cartman or Hassan first quote I've been waiting for chicken for too long that's definitely Cartman I'm pretty sure we'd all guess that's Cartman it's the episode with where they replaced KFC with medicinal marijuana clinics it's the episode it's the Scarface one where Cartman basically becomes Scarface trading an illegal Kentucky fried chicken because it's illegal in Colorado which is interesting because it's like mafia issues like the community one was about chicken as well yeah they do chicken is fucking great so quote two the only way to fight hate is with even more hate that's Hassan I was about to say like if I was to guess I'd say Hassan I don't think that's Cartman yeah I could hear I might go with Cartman on this one it might be Cartman I think I'm gonna go with Cartman on this one the problem is they don't expect you to go Cartman twice that's the thing that's how they get you the problem with this one is that like Cartman has said so much now this is like a good chance to use he might have said it this is where it gets like I could see Cartman having said any quote really Cartman says more in an episode than Hassan says in an episode Cartman says more in 5 minutes and Hassan does it 8 hours like yes true so the last one is I do what I want that's definitely Cartman hence well I think the joke here is I think both of them said that oh they both say that's true cause of course you mean it they'll think of whatever I do what I want but yeah Hassan has said that Hassan has Cartman energy in certain ways yes Cartman wasn't a role model Cartman wouldn't say you can know him well Cartman's also kind of intelligent he's very cunning I would say cunning is the word he can be quite a smart boy yeah snafu died for our sins hi rags hello he did indeed he's banned for our sins heroic rags swims 5 miles to bite chanks nephew swims 5 miles I've swam a mile before in scouts that was one of the mile swim that was not fun but it's good to say you did it yeah just watched avengers assemble and couldn't help thinking that this was scripted by some guy and 10 minutes later Loki becomes a simp yeah a little bit also we talked about this with the sequels and stuff but like if I rewatch avengers if someone says like wow can you believe Loki ends up with the TVA no that's not something to happen that's bullshit it's really shitty go away this is what we do about the it fucks up watching older stuff when you do this we can't accept Loki is true it just fucks with everything else you just have to kind of keep your head so bad we're just head canning it like an actual cannon and just shooting it far far away Devin you made it to EFAP congratulate congratulation yeah who's the hottest Swedish guy Henrik Lundquist Viktor Kron or John Lundvik let me open google say the names one more time the name well actually I'll paste them because you're gonna have to spell them Swedish Henrik Lundquist Viktor Kron John Lundvik oh Henrik I'd say Henrik yeah and who's more hot Benjamin or Bianca in Grosso so I see Bianca in Grosso let's see what looks like well how we doing Benjamin in Grosso I think Rags would absolutely go for Benjamin no out of those two I think so no definitely Bianca in terms of hotness I don't think Benjamin is I mean he's good looking guy well hmm it depends he is extremely subject as many people are to framing and individual pictures let me see I think I might go with Benjamin yeah I knew it I knew you better than you knew you I think it's because when you first look him up the images that they show are misleading in a way but the more you look at the more you look at Bianca the more you're like you just look fake and the more you look at Benjamin you're like he's got a lot of stuff going he's got a lot of good looks that work for him what do you reckon chat which one would you go with prefer more of the whitest kids you know has died oh damn I watched some other stuff before and it was really good that's sad I don't recognize that unfortunately but yeah let's see it they both average I don't know man I don't think you well from this image I wouldn't call him average bring it why haven't you offered your perspective on these I I don't know when I don't I'm indifferent well okay answer me this would you say he looks average I don't think he looks average you'd be above average I feel like he's above average oh yeah anyway um have you seen Suicide Squad not yet no it's soon would love to see another meme tier list stream oh when we like rate the people we've covered based on their meme ability tune it's been a while since we've done that yeah I guess we'd have to figure out what what was our rationale last time it was like the amount of memes spawned from them because I remember it was our as quality like a single big meme that yeah going and going you know maybe that's uh the son has film reviews on youtube god my god sometimes and see how fucking devoid of insight they are like staring into a black hole of pain bring he tied me up to watch daredevil I can't stop damn free time people up to do that now no not true it's not true um oh people saying is it to rate the memos I wouldn't want to rate the memos I love all you guys I don't want to be doing that it's mean whoever ends up on the bottom of that list will be real happy huh well I made the list um hashtag give Amy her life back because humans aren't meant to live as rats I understand the reference is true if you thought was aqua teen hunger force which characters would you be I don't know it not sure well I would be frylock like he's he's like the only the he's the only one approaching a sane person in that trio so it's like I I can't even imagine that meatwad and shake or even like actual people who can exist so it's that shows just fucking weird it's good and I really like it but Jesus it's just it's not for people if you like this if you like shows about catharsis and things of that nature just don't yeah it's just not it's not your show it's it's it's one of those um it's like um it's like Xavier renegade angel in a way where it's just sort of crazy and zany it's not as clever it's not as clever as Xavier renegade angel but it's still it's just kinda crazy for you Carl I'm not shake no I've not seen it so I don't even know what the personalities are like I'm just like I don't know I'm the one that is the one that is whoever the long one is shake is probably the longest of the trio I'm assuming what do you mean it's not okay to kill now that it's 1945 we've been doing it for years oh god tradition probably a fallacy of some kind wearing a veteran hat for aesthetic is hella cringe but totally a Hasan thing to do I was thinking I didn't have any of the understanding that dev seemed to about why he was doing it um if it was because it feels weird about the whole like I'm doing it for stolen valor lol it was just like huh I don't get it yeah like what actually was the point cause he's so stupid like I didn't get an answer he just restated the issue but he thought that was an answer he like maybe if I say the question in my own voice it will be an answer I guess was his brains rationale like you're doing the bad thing why is like I'm doing the bad thing yeah I I lost me on that one can't sit and watch currently but I visited my navy gf again and wanted to share my happiness via money I hope wolf is feeling better recently well that's uh very kind and I hope your navy gf is doing well as well as yourself uh fuck mary kill buffy willow zander I would be mary buffy yeah cuz hetero but um mary buffy fucking willow to explain why if you've seen the show you can probably infer why killing people because hetero is this batwoman kill the hetero thing is yeah you know if it was all girls I'd probably marry zander like if he was yeah I probably would but he's not this is what snafu gave his life and shackles for poor man poor snafu he's been joined by many at this point he's got a good company now um paul bernie is hasan's vision of a blow-up doll pretty much and um yeah with that I'm afraid I am too dying to continue uh we're getting there too I am just pooped ugh we had a a long boy today lots of events yeah we did we had a it was a good one I really enjoyed this both this one and last one top tier highest of caliber all kinds of things to happen people I remember with the start of the stream some people were like oh man it's nice for eef to finally have a strong villain again or something like that instead of like a unified villain I think what they meant by that is just like a concrete villain or something I guess I don't know yeah he's definitely a villain he's a horrible person what else have we learned from like the 2e fact he's just a he's a really bad person he's a bad guy he's just just an asshole but it's been fun and yes I will first thing second I hit stop stream I'll upload what did I what did I what was the agreed calling it it was a a man of steel right yeah so that'll go up on moola like instantly you'll see it within the hour probably you can watch all of that fun stuff that we've gone over in these past 2e fact I suppose then this will be up in a day or two depending on how quickly YouTube processes it which by the way lately YouTube has been very well behaved I've been uploading them and it hasn't like taken a week to process they just process instantly I was like oh my god because I think people have noticed like wow they're coming out a lot quicker usually now than usual and it's like yeah YouTube's been really kind to me with how long it takes to process I don't know what happened to them on their end but they've changed something don't change your back is how I feel about it um but yes we've got the the anniversary is coming up now hmm as well as a couple surprises you're in there in both the form well you guys know that the Snyder cut you found movies is coming it is a chunky boy and it's probably the most editing meme has done up to this point for like a single video I think I'd have to ask him 100% sure that's to be excited about I am working away on a video too should be coming and yeah well I guess we'll see you next week on Friday the 13th because Metal's doing a 4k follower celebration anything and I think we're going to get together with a bunch of people and play some Gartik phone for a couple of hours yeah gaming yo and then yeah of course e-fab 149 on the Saturday and the week after that we begin the anniversary stream of which the three of us will attempt to run for 24 hours 3-8 hour streams hmm I'm feeling good I'm feeling good about it as long as I get my 20 hours of sleep beforehand I should be able to do it my timelines cursed because I know that I won't be able to get much sleep tonight before so yeah as long as you take a quick nap in the middle of it right yeah I suppose um but that's that yeah anything else you guys want to say before we head out um you know I think we've said enough I think we've done our damage I think we're ready to I think I'm ready to just collapse I agree thank you all so much for hanging out with us thank you for the donations and we shall see you next time yeah bye bye