 Welcome to Rotorite, I'm here with FPV legend Maddie Stuntz at one of his legendary spots. Maddie is known for a particular style of flying where you do a lot of, yeah, a lot of that, a lot of kind of backwards, I mean how would you describe it? Not shine away from any position that quad can be in. Part of how you do it is with your camera up tilt, right? Basically up tilt is your angle of attack. So most people will fly with an angle of attack about like right around here. This is a 60 degree GoPro mount, you bring it up to around there, and now this is your angle of attack. But now at this angle the quad starts doing some weird things with its thrust. If you want to roll and you want to roll this camera on access, now your roll is like this and you're almost yawing. So when you roll you have to kind of yaw with a little bit of roll at the same time. You're probably 80% yaw and 20% roll. And the other scenario if you're doing a yaw spin, you're probably 80% roll and 20% yaw. So the two big changes are your roll and your yaw. When your camera passes 45 degrees, your roll and your yaw sticks practically flip their function from the perspective of the camera that you're looking through. So on one of my quads I fly about 30 degrees up tilt and I've got enough up tilt that I can still do matty tricks. Probably not as, I can't do as many of them. Well if you invert from far away, you're inverting like this and now you're just like dropping out of the air. You know what I mean? You can still see it, but you're going to have a lot of momentum to get yourself inverted into that gap. Instead, when I invert, I can invert and it'll still push the quad towards the gap. Let's get some flying in so you can see kind of the differences between my setup and his setup and our flying styles. And then, let's get you into a high tilt, because you're not used to it, right? No, I want to get some coaching. Your regular quad that you fly will be your yaw at 30. Yeah, so I'm going to get it. I have a quad set up with 60 degrees. We know what we should do, too. You should give me the 30 and see how it goes. Oh, you want to fly one of my quads? Yeah, yeah. Okay, we're going to straight trade quads today. So let's get warmed up first. Okay, so it's the next day. I had an absolute horrific crash yesterday. It's a little colder today, but we're going to make this work. Nady, what do you think of my high up tilt quad? Is it stunts approved? Yeah. Now, is this 60 degrees here? Your HD camera? Yeah, that's 60. That's 60, hey? So now, is your FPV camera, does it look like it's at 60? Are you seriously hating on that? Yeah, it's a little 45-ish. Are we able to push it up? That is not 45. Are we able to push it up? No, that's as high as it's going to go. It's hitting the stack. You want more than this? Well, I would say up to, it's at least over 50. Yes, it's over 50. It's well beyond 45. Yeah, I'm not hating on that. You're kind of hating on that. It could be a little high. It could be a little high. God, dude, that's stupid. I just can't get over how much you look like Charpie with this haircut. I'm serious man. So this isn't actually my first time flying this high up tilt. I've flown this once before under a bridge. It was terrifying. So I'm hoping you can give me some tips. So just taking like right off the bat. So let's take off. As soon as you take off, you're going to see that you're already looking at the group, right? Yeah. I'm looking straight up it feels like. So now I'm going to tilt forward before I even looked off. All right. So now I'm just cruising forward and it's just like going so fast with so little throttle. Yeah. So now when we when we pitch back and we look up, we start to elevate towards the bridge, right? Oh, it's so weird how far like I can just get thrusting myself back. Absolutely. That's because I'm looking at the bridge and it's just like going back forever. Yeah. Another thing is if I just roll, it's like now I'm looking straight at the ground. That's right. So that's why yaw. It's like just flying backwards looking up. That's still gets me every time. Like I said, not my first time, but it's still just like what I want to be able to do is just basically drive around upside down like indefinitely, you know, just like I'm just chilling, just going around. And this is always going to be way easier with high tilt with a roof, you know? Yeah. Cause I'm just looking at the roof and I almost hit it there and I'm going to go back upright. But I feel like I can almost just steer, you know, no problem. Yeah. And when you're when you're upside down to the reason why it looks like you're you're traveling further upside down is because you are having more momentum when you're flying this fast and and also the thrust direction once you're upside down. But how much funner is it to fly a higher, a higher tilt? This spot, this particular spot is so fun. It feels very freeing almost. It's really weird. You never go unblind. I always push myself right where I'm looking. I never thought I would think of high up tilt as freeing because the one time I tried it before I was really overwhelmed. But I think having tried it before I knew a little bit more of what to expect and I've been flying with you. So I've been watching it and getting more used to the aesthetic and pretty much just steer around like upside down. What's the next trick I should learn? I don't even know where to go from here on this thing. I would do, let's do from pillar to pillar and let's do ride up one pillar up the wall and then ride straight to the roof. Straight to the roof and then back down the other side. So I'm just gonna head over to that middle pillar. We're just gonna go up over and down. So what you have to do, up, yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh my goodness. Okay, slow down here, slow down, slow down. So how was that flight? You never, you never get off the throttle. Like my style of flight, usually I do a lot of, I'll toss myself and lower the throttle a lot and float it. But with the way, with how close your camera angle ends up to the direction of your thrust, you never really get off. I found like, even when I was diving back down, you had to stop and stay on. If I added the throttle, it's thrusting down toward the ground in a weird way, but not the same way you would expect. It really changes the physics of what you think the quad should be doing in the flight. Let's see if I can fly this spot with Drew's quad. It needs to be at least 30 for me. Okay, I'll make it 30. So let's see what Matty Stuntz can do with 30 degrees. This is what we're talking about here, which is the Ladrib X-Hover Edition. Wait, do you know what the name of the frame actually is? No. The Skyliner. Oh, the Skyliner. Get it? No. Matty Stuntz going up. We'll start with a Ladrib-type fashion of going very slow and smooth. Yeah, it's so slow. I feel like I have to push locks forward to go anywhere. And see, right there, it felt like if that was my success rig with high tilt, I would be floating backwards a lot more. Yeah, you definitely don't go as far back. But see how you can chop the throttle and just float with the momentum. Absolutely. So rather than forcing yourself the whole time to go in the direction, you just toss the quad more. But see there, yeah, you didn't have any backwards momentum. Also, that battery's up. Yeah, it's not a good one. The battery feels a little poopy, but... Yeah, there we go. Oh, oh, you got it. So I'm running out of juice. You know, let's put a new battery on. So we're switching out batteries really quickly and putting a 5S onto what was a 4S quad because 4S sucks. Yeah, that, yeah. I mean, also all my batteries are pretty good. All its batteries are very poopy. So we're putting in a Rebel 5S. Now Drew, tell me, do you always fly with your lenses this dirty inside your goggles? I'm going to try to stay on this side of the bridge because I think that we're going to have less rain here. Oh yeah, that's... Yeah, the 5S helps a bit. Yeah. So the only thing that I really notice right now, because it's an open area and I can kind of scoot around and get fast. Like right there, I kind of blew out that corner. I wouldn't be blowing out that corner with a 60 degree tilt, but my rolling's on access and that just takes time to relearn the mechanics of the flight. Just because you're not used to the same amount of mixing, right? Yeah, but what we're going to try to do here, we're going to try to do a, from one pillar to another pillar, and we're going to do a yaw spin while we're spider manning the roof. Let's try to do that. You're going to do it right in front of us? Cool. Yeah. You got it. Was it, how was it off access a bit? I just, I have to lean on yaw a little bit more. Yeah, right. So to do a yaw spin with your high tilt, you use more roll than you do yaw, but with mine, you're back to using more yaw. Let's try to do some pirouette cycles. Oh, that's weird. Oh, that's weird. And I'm almost crashing. Oh, that's weird. Oh my God. That is crazy to see done with my low angle. That's okay. Yeah. It's a little bit weird. I'd have to hop in the sim and just like really get used to it again. I mean, you can still get very floaty with this camera angle. I think I had a lot to do with that battery. Like look at that. I can still do it. You just have to get used to the camera perspective, right? Yeah. Let's try to go two pillars here. Yeah, you just stare at the ceiling and you can just fall. And that's another five S battery. You just killed. That's another five S battery I just nuked. It wasn't that bad. Yeah. Even at 30, I mean, you can still fly a lot of those tricks. My opinion has been I can do almost all your tricks with the lower tilt. And not having the higher tilt doesn't make certain things like a smooth split S more difficult. The trade off though is like when I see you way other side, look backwards, spot a gap and just go like whoo. And hit it. I can't do that. It would be a little bit more blind. Yeah. And you would have to look at the sky a little bit more to get that. Yeah. To get the momentum going backwards. That's right. Would you ever go back to a lower angle? Well, the thing is with all this grinding stuff that's happening lately, obviously a lower tilt is more beneficial. Definitely maybe playing around with the concept. My heart and soul, I think I still truly believe that you can get more done with a higher tilt. All the benefits of having a higher tilt are there. All the cons can be worked with, I think more than if you have a lower tilt. In my personal opinion. Yeah. I know someone who flies lower tilt might not think that, but for me. Do you really think if you came to Detroit, like one of our abandoned buildings, would you be able to fully navigate like every room, all the things? I smell a challenge coming on. Future episode, Maddie comes to Detroit. I think it's possible. I might explode. Don't get me wrong. I want to see it happen. It's something I actually do want to continue to explore with a dedicated high up tilt quad. So I think my main fleet will always be like what I've been flying with 30 degrees. And for me, that provides versatility in flying. I can still do most of the inverted Maddie moves, maybe not all of them. But I'd like to have a high up tilt quad for when I come to a spot like this, it's just straight up more fun with the high up tilt. I'm not gonna lie. I just had more like flying that. It takes three or four batteries to get that mechanics and the mixing going with your fingers though. So yeah. If you want to build a quad like the ones you're seeing us flying, whether it's high angle, low angle, whatever, check out store.rotoride.com. You can build, you can build quads just like the ones we're flying. I'm Lydred. Nice sense. Thanks for hanging out under a bridge with us. Can I? You got a bunch of trolls. Did water just come out of your nose? Yeah. It didn't, didn't it? You took my holy water and you drank that. I did. This is cesspool. This guy's literally a cesspool of germs and bacteria. I give you a bed, a car, I buy your food, take my water too, okay? I didn't put my mouth on it. Just put it in the trunk, man.