 So we're here with Panel OLED right here at Hong Kong Fair and who are you? Hi, I'm Nicolas. And what are we looking at here? Is this your Panel OLED technology? Actually, let me put you some more demo here. So you can choose what's going on here? Oh, this is the software that's controlling the effect on this OLED panel. It looks like a cool software. It is. You make this? No, no, no. My dream is a German company. Okay. They make this software. So yeah, this is the OLED lighting. This is the future of the light. It is the same as the OLED display, like the mobile or the new curved TV. But this is the lighting effect. So it is the first OLED for light dedicated for the stage and architecture. Is it like printed? It's OLED, so it's a vacuum process. It's a bit complicated to explain. So the future of lighting is potentially going to be like all these. What is this? All these is like, I think this LED or this even door over there is LED. And as you can see, okay, you point that light is very glare, very blind, very disturbing, uncomfortable. Yeah. But that one, this is the OLED technology point, is giving this very warm and comfortable light. It's no glare, no blind at all. Even if I put like full light, full brightness, like I will do right now. This is full brightness and you can still look and you can still be in front without to be blind or very uncomfortable about. It's like just feel like daylight or not? It is the closest of the sunlight. It's much closer than this. It's more natural. If you compare the sun, the light from the sun and the color temperature of the sun, OLED lighting is the closest one. It's the more close of the sun. As you can see, my face is like very shining and very nice. So is this, can you show how it is? Because right here you have one. Right now we have, okay, this is the matric stage one. So this is the one dedicated for the stage. And we have DMX and power current system. What is that? So DMX is the protocol used by the whole event company or even for the architecture, they use DMX and Dali. So this is the protocol that everybody know to control the light. So you have nine here? Right now, oh yes, very good. You can do any assembly you want. And then you have some crazy shows going on. Is this in Hong Kong? Yeah, that is in Hong Kong. That's one is a clock and flap and we did also a sauna in Hong Kong and we did also some in France in a little venue called You Bu Club which is very famous for some artists people. And we've been in Las Vegas, in Los Angeles and Frankfurt also for that... Times Square? Not yet, but we are... Next week, right? Yeah, next week. And then, so there's this very good thing. The sauna one, we put a different... Where's the sauna? The sauna is a music festival in Barcelona and they did the first time in Hong Kong also. So how many of your panels are there? Right now, there's 27 only. Only? Only smaller stages. That's beautiful, no? Yeah, that's nine actually. Right now behind the DG is what is here right now. Most of the people come and just have a selfie and like to have this background light. Nice. So your company is doing this... Yeah, we are... It is a lot of potential future with this kind of stuff, no? We are a starter, we are very starting and we are promoting the OLED and we are a partner with LG Display which provides us the OLED square like each one like that. And we did the assembly in China and everything, the office is in Hong Kong. And it's called the matrix. Matrix, yeah, because it's 8x8. So it's 64, 8x8 like that. And this is all the information about it? This is the information, the main information about the product. It's very light. So people in the event company, they will really appreciate, especially technicians. 20 kilos? Oh no, 5 kilos. 5 kilos? For one. 5 kilos for one. 20 kilos for one square meter. And power consumption. Okay. It's 50 watts for one. So it's very little. Right now it's only 450 watts, which is nothing. You can run with solar panel. Okay, run all this with the solar panel. I mean, you charge in the daytime and when the show is coming on the night, you just use the... Can you run this on a power bank? No, let me try. So how much... Hopefully the price, what's the price? Right now we are... A4B is $1300. For one? For one, yeah. Which should be okay, right? In the field of event company, it's just normal price. It's because, I won't say it's been here, it's still a cost. It's more expensive than some other... We are looking to put down the price, but you know, it's as a market, we need to sell a lot and then we'll put down the price. Is there any chance you can work with architects and put this in an apartment? We are the architect one. It's the same one, instead of... We have an aluminium unibody right now for the stage, it has to be very robust because we put up, down, up, down many times, put back in a fly case. For the architect one, it's a permanent one. It's just a glass in front of with different coating, UV protection, so it could be a mirror, it could be a gold, silver coating and the architect one, there's no electronic box and there's no support. It's just the tile. And you put on the wall permanently or outside in the facade or whatever and the control box is somewhere else. But you need to have these shapes for architecture? Is that required? That's the point where we put a glass and you can have pure transparent glass or you can have coating, you can have mirror. So as soon as there's no light, it's just a mirror and when you put some light then of course the light is behind the mirror and you can see it. Because in Hong Kong, it's the most expensive apartment in the world. Do they need to have some cool stuff like this in there? Yeah, I mean the building, yeah, for sure. The whole building should be covered with it, right? It is, yeah. We are looking for the one that will go for that, for sure. We are talking also swimming pool. We want to do the swimming pool one. So a floor inside the swimming pool with this OLED lighting, with the matrix and when you swim there's a key net then it follows you, you know. That sounds great. It could be funny. Yeah, so you can go swimming and the swimming pool outdoors at night. That's the best. And then it just lights up where you are or in front of where you are, so you follow the light. Yeah, you follow the light or it's not glare, it's not blind so you can still swim and you won't be disturbed by this. It should be like trying to coach you, like say go faster, you know. Try to catch up with the... Yeah, oh yeah, this is a very good idea. And show where your neighbor was faster than you. So you try to catch up with your neighbor. You can make that, yeah, like the different line is going faster, yeah, yeah. It's just a programation after all, it's not complicated. So how long have you been doing this? We are a two-year company now, one year. But the idea of doing this is quite long time ago but we have to talk with LG and make all the process, manufacturing, prototyping, etc. I guess LG wants to make OLED lighting a big deal in the future, hopefully. We're going to make the OLED lighting... You're going to make it a big deal. They invest for, they are building the fifth generation factory in South Korea. It's almost one billion, I'm not sure about that. But anyway, and they want to spray the OLED lighting over the wall because it appears that OLED lighting is much better than LED lighting. And more and more people start to be comfortable with LED also, which is another issue. LED is just not natural. All the offices have these lights and it's just not natural for humans. You need to have something a little bit more natural. Actually, now it's very new. People start to do some research, something about this LED effect on the people. So they did it for the CFL, the bulb CFL. Now they do for the LED. And they appear that the frequencies, the color, etc. might give you some headache or things like that. This one does not have to have a frequency. This is an organic one. No flickering. Actually, you can see with your camera. If I go here, it's flickering. Well, not really because it's automatic shutter. If you use your frame and you force your frame to 120 or 150, it will still not flickering. So that's also something very interesting for the broadcasting TV. They're really looking for that. For cinema. For cinema also. And because of the quality of the color, the Sierra is a true 90. The Sierra is a color rendering index. And the 3000 degree Kelvin is very accurate. It's the real one. There's no green. There's no red. There's no... It's not a blue light. There's no blue inside. Instead of LED. You know very well the lighting. I don't know so much. I'm just guessing. Two colors. The last one I try and... No blue. But can you change the colors? That's monocholor. In the future it's possible to change the colors. LG is doing the R&D for some maybe RGB and different color temperature. But this is still an R&D. But this product is done. And this product is the most brightness in the world for OLED talking. So that's why.