 What's up everybody? Welcome to hot makes right here on hot makes. Yes. I'm back. All the hot makes hot makes on my car. I can't say it three times fast. I keep trying to, but I can't welcome to the show real quick. Some things. Number one, if you're looking for anything we show tonight for the hot makes, check out the link in the description below. Number two, forget that you can shoot us some donations on the live channel because we're monetized now, which is amazing. We're doing great there and super chats and PayPal and all the cool things. Thank you so much. And also Caleb, how you doing, man? Battle Cry says part time help is back here. Meaning you, you're the part time help. That's true. Last week was something. Last week was a good job. You did a good job. Oh, I don't mean just the show. I mean, the show was like the start to like a cascading week of just weird events happening. Yes. But Andrew, thank you so much. $10. Yes. Thank you. Awesome. I do want to say, I want to start, I want to start transitioning into doing things just, we tried doing this before doing thing, doing the show just on a hot makes account. And then we started flipping it back on, on your account. Like, are you okay with us doing it on your channel all the time? Okay. Yeah, I didn't think you would. I mean, I think more people watch. Am I too warm? Or am I too loud? No, I'm, I'm, I'm good, but you're probably a little hot, but that's every day. You're just hot. I'm just curious why you're not hot makes mean you're just looking away from me the whole episode. Is that this like, it's like a dog. Okay, so did something wrong? TV is right there. The cameras right there. TV is over here this week. It's either that or if I move the screen down here, I'll just be looking down the whole time. Major gamer Geek says everybody's saying you can't your mic is a scotch hot scotch. Okay, let me see if I can fix that my bad. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, last week was a week yesterday. Yes, it was. I want to apologize. Fix him dude. I am so sorry, man. I did not want to miss that episode. I am going to say better. I guess I'm going to, I'm going to get so close in a second here, but I do want to say fix him dude. I love you, man. I'm really sorry. I missed your episode and I want to have you back so I can prove it to you because because like I got some proof that you're sorry. Oh, look at fix some dude stuff like all the fix some dude like this is only a couple things I have. You can't see them, but they're like, I got like all over my tool bench or my tool cart over there is a bunch of fix some dude stuff. And also I didn't get to show this off in person last when he was here and he haven't talked to me about it, but I know we talked about it briefly, but I heard I, you know, why do I say this? I rewatched the show if I could talk and that is made. I love this thing is signed on the bottom. It says, you know, fix some dude. I love that. Genuinely kind dude. Yeah. And I really appreciate this and I really appreciate what you do for the community. And I'm so sorry that I missed your episode. So is my audio better? Shane says it's better, but I think it's better. I want to get a few other ones. Am I okay? Do I need to be like in a world? Yeah, in world. So, so here's the deal. I'm going to address this one time real quick. We're gonna get it out of the way and we're gonna have an amazing episode. So last week before the show, I found out that a very good friend of mine did something very not good. Yeah, okay. I was wondering where I get we probably don't want to get too close to details on this because it's rough details. I'm not going to name names. I'm not going to do any of that stuff. It's nobody that the community is like it's nobody in the community at all. It's just one of my friends and yeah. So here's the deal. I was I was not in a great place. I was a little bit like I was crushed. Like this is a person I never thought would would do something like what they did. And in a million years, I never considered that with that person. And you know, I went I went to their house to see if they were okay. And I found out that that person had been arrested and all the things like kind of cascaded from there. And I was in a real rough weird. Yeah, it was an emotional place. I'm still a little bit emotional. I know this person's a good person on the inside. He just did very he did a very bad thing. And yeah, you know, without getting any more details to that, you know, I hope they can get help. I hope you can move forward and I hope that he's okay because probably won't have contact with that person ever again, maybe right. So so you know, that's that's the biggest thing I hope you know, he can get help if he needs help or whatever. I hope that they're okay. Like most of all, because he was a friend. But man, it sucks. You know, it's like very disappointing. And I'm still I'm on the brink right now. So we're gonna move on. But we'll just put it this way. I'm good. My family's good. Everybody's good. Good, good, good. It was just like before the show. I found out a friend didn't. It was literally right right before the show too. It was pretty close to before the show. Yeah. And I was really considering I was like, I'm gonna do it. And then before the show, I got a hold of Caleb and I said, man, I can't do this. I'm I was like in a mess of a place. So that's that we're gonna move on. I'm glad everybody's I'm glad everybody in your family is okay. I'm glad that you know, we don't have any tragedies in the community. You know, Ed is 100% correct. The other guy got arrested. You're a weird place. I'm in a weird place because this person was a friend of mine for a long time. And in your in you if you think of your like best friends, right? You never consider in my me I never considered this person would do what he did. And it's not like Jeffrey Dahmery didn't chop up bodies or anything like that. So I mean, if that was the case, I'd tell you because that'd be cool. Oreos and water. Yeah, it was people are saying my so I had one person say my mic is still hot. I had multiple people say that my mic was better and then I had somebody say that we need to turn you up. So I don't know at what point is it your volume? The viewer I have a lot of background noise and in here too. Yeah, I've got some background noise on my end too. But I just went a little closer. Let me know. We're moving forward. Okay, if you're watching and on to the next thing. Okay, so do you want to jump into have we done all of our boilerplate stuff? Let's do it. Let's just get it. I'm so excited for tonight's episode. I'll let you introduce it. Okay, so we have this really cool guest that Andrew sink actually called out when I made a post just tuned Jim out. We do that. Here we go. So I muted him. So I made a post saying like hey, does anybody have some cool people that you know that you think would be cool to have on the show and then Andrew sink called the money out. And I think I'm so bad with names. I'm probably getting the name wrong. Let's just bring him in and see if I got the name right. How's it going, man? Okay, cool. But for those of you so for those on the show who don't necessarily know who you are, because I'll be honest, I didn't necessarily know who you were until I started looking you up. And then I was like, Oh, this guy does some cool stuff. So something we do on the show regularly is just take a brief moment. Tell us who you are, what you do and where people can find you. Sure. Yeah. So my name is Damani. I'm a 3d artist. I'm specialized in 3d scanning. So I have a lot of experience with different 3d scanning and reality capture technologies. I've worked with LiDAR laser structured light photogrammetry multi camera arrays. So really the full gamut of like capture technologies. And I've done it for film. I've done it for visual effects. I've done it for art, design, reverse engineering, so medical. So there's there's so many applications for the technology and I've kind of been able to explore a lot of different pockets of scanning. So I feel like you listed every kind of their like are there any kinds of 3d scanning that you haven't done? Yeah, I'm I'm increasingly I'm not sure but I mean I would say I'm increasingly interested in scanning bigger and bigger things. So yeah, I've helped to scan buildings. I've seen so cool scan boats, you know, like massive tankers and yeah, I haven't done any marine stuff. So they're scanning underwater. I've never seen underwater. I heard there's a new submarine you got too soon. There you go. Scan underwater. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some guys do photogrammetry underwater to scan Titanic. I've never done anything like that. So that's so cool. Yeah. An aerial aerial I've dabbled with a little bit but using drones is cool. What do you scan like so like building size things? Yeah, I've scanned buildings. Okay. I've used for VFX we use Liar scanners which like the like a P 50 as a max scan range of a kilometer. So that's cool. That's awesome. Yeah, from the ground you could scan about halfway up some some skyscrapers in New York. Whoa, that's crazy. That's so my dumb brain thought when you said aerial when you said aerial scanning I was like how do you scan like the air and like clouds and stuff. Scanning down, scanning down, scanning down, scanning solid objects on the floor from the air. Yeah. Yeah. So wait, wait, wait, I need more coffee talking before you mentioned training the coroner's office. Yeah, that was really cool. What do you how do you trade a corner like what do you walk us through that a little bit if you yeah, I'm very technical right so at that point I was selling scanners. So I'm actually a brand ambassador for this one manufacturer shining 3D. It's like a Chinese scanner company. And so I was I was basically selling one of their scanners and part of the company that I was working for the time part of this the sale was some trainer. So you just get the scanner. It comes with a technician who's me who would explain to the person how to use the scanner. And so they were explaining their applications. You know, a lot of it was like bone fragments and stuff from crime scenes. I actually asked at one point does the public ever get to come here? Do people come here to see this place? To me, it was all cool, right? So yeah, and he said he was like if the only time the public ever comes here to identify a body. Very serious here. Yeah, very, very serious. Yeah, cool place. That's cool. But yeah, so I was just very simply trained them how to use the scanner. They had some some bone samples that we tested on. They had these interesting cushions. So I like to borrow stuff that I learned from these different applications right? So they had these really interesting cushions that I'm still planning to get some from my studio. But they're like specimen cushions. So like a bone you put it like on this like hacky sack kind of cushion and it would sink in and like cradle it all the way around. Yeah, great, great tool for holding different, you know, shaped objects. That's for for scanning. You need things to be still. Yeah, yeah. I'm always interested in those forensic forensic cushions or I've purchased some forensic tools from my studio here to hold different specimens while I'm scanning them and stuff like that. So nice. That's awesome. So I guess I guess you had a bone to pick with that. Fantastic. Maybe that's super cool. Sorry, I didn't hit the off field. No, I was just so John Davis mentioned iPhone but that kind of like I doubt at your caliber you're using iPhones for things are you? No, I do. So that's awesome. I mean, I'm excited to say this. I use scanners at all levels. So, okay, that's awesome. I use a phone scanner. I have a bunch of like a series where I scan to be equals with my phone. So whenever I see one, I'm like, oh, that's when I can capture real quick, you know, yeah, my phone is the scanner I always have on me. That's fair. I also use $10,000 scanners and I also use $30,000 scanners and a hundred and, you know, 20, $200,000 multi-camera arrays. So I have like with the full gamut and at different levels, there's yeah, there's different qualities of data and there's different different reasons for using different tools. So that leads me to the question as far as I mean, I know multi-camera arrays are going to be really expensive, but as far as the singular scanner, like a singular unit of some sort that may or may not be handheld, but it's only one thing. You said you've done everything from iPhones to like, like, you know, thousands of thousands of dollars, $10,000, $20,000. What, what are the main differences like in quality? Is it like night and day difference in quality? Does it like scan like through the object like x-ray? Like how is that? That's a huge price difference. Yeah. So there's different applications like the Lidar scanners that I've used for film, they can capture full environments. A hand scanner, you wouldn't want to hand scan, you know, an entire place. Yeah. It's a scene, right. So that'd be a lot. Yeah. It'd be a lot of work and it wouldn't be practical. And yes, these, these scanners, they, they operate kind of like a turret. So it's like a 360 capture. Okay. Yeah. And 270 field of view. So we can see almost, almost straight down. Do you have to like move it around in different locations to kind of get around things? You do. And it has all kinds of features to make it to make it able to do that. So it has a positional awareness built into it. Yeah. There's an iPad tool that you pair with it. And so you're able to see all the places where you've been, the quality of data in those regions. You're able to link multiple positions together in the iPad app. That's like a pre-registration step. And then further down the pipeline, you do a more detailed registration before you turn into maybe a mesh or a point cloud depending on your application. That's so cool. But yeah, so there's different kinds of scanners. And then there's hand scanners. Like I was saying, like I have one here, like a $10,000 hand scanner. It's kind of like my multi-purpose unit. I've used it to scan, you know, like stones for fire escapes, like complex, like ornate stonework or woodwork. I've used it to scan people. I've used it to scan objects. So it's kind of like a, it's a structured light scanner with a minimum point distance of 0.2 millimeters. Really fine detail. Yeah. That's like $10,000. Yeah. That's where that $10,000 gets you. Yeah. It's the 10 grand goes into like a, it's a kit. So you get the scanner, you get a turntable for objects that fit in the turntable. You can spin them and then the scanner can be in a fixed position or it can be operated handheld. So it's kind of like a multi-purpose industrial scanner. That's the one that I would say, like, if I were comparing it to like my phone, like it's just night and day, night and day. Jack in the shop says, and here I am using an Xbox one camera connected to my laptop and then Dan says, I want to play with these scanners, but I would scan dumb things. I have it and I only pull it out when I'm trying to do jobs really. Yeah. Do jobs. I put myself to be creative and I have a lot of ideas, but I feel like I don't even play with it as much as I could be or should be, you know, like it's, it's either forced myself to find something that's worth it, you know, or yeah. Yeah. So, so you scan, let's say like VFX, right? Yeah. So scanning like environments, sometimes games or movies or or yeah, film. I've worked on music videos. I worked on a music video for ASAP Ferg. It's on our website. That's awesome. Yeah. So, yeah, I've scanned actors. Yeah. Environments sometimes they want to add like digital effects like rain. And so you need collision objects that can mirror the environment that you're shooting for the play. And so the scans can be used to have objects to bounce the rain particles off of or yeah, all kinds of applications. I'll kind of mine never auto would you use it for like more in-depth like reflections and stuff too? I don't know about reflections. A scan you're capturing kind of like shape. Right. A lot about shape. There's a way to capture lighting. There's ways to capture lighting if that's what you're asking. No, I mean like so I know that a lot of times if something's going to be like it's going to be digitally chrome, like if they're going to replace somebody's head in like a green screen cap with a chrome helmet of some sort, they need reflections of the surroundings. And a lot of times they'll do like 2D just like take pictures of the set that they end up mapping on to that. But if it's something that's like a window or something that's reflective enough and it needs that parallax or something, would you then like 3D scan an area like that and use that for reflection instead of a 2D image? I'm also maybe not the best person to ask. But as far as far as a 3D scan text perspective, a lot of glass and windows are kind of the enemy because a lot of these like these scanner systems they don't, they're light based. So like LiDAR is light based. It's emitting pulses and so it's hitting surfaces and it's bouncing back. And you kind of want, you kind of want it to be, you're using the time of, the time of distance for it to fly back to make calculations. So you kind of want consistent surfaces. And so a lot of these surfaces that are reflective or transparent, you get funnier data. So if I hit a mirror, I get a reflections and sometimes it creates like false data. Yeah, a lot of the time was my job to clean out. So I'm cleaning out reflections. I'm cleaning out windows and where the data is all crackly and messy and you're not going to, you're not even able to generate surfaces from that data. So that's so cool. It's bad data. And a lot of my job as like the scan processing guy was just like manually cleaning out that kind of noise. That's so cool to me. That kind of specialty, specialty work though. That's awesome. It's kind of like a video game. It's kind of like a video game. You're flying around and you're like, oh, that's crap and you're cleaning it out. That's so stuff. So hours and hours of that. So you mentioned the LiDAR. There's a few different types of scanning capabilities, right? There's like LiDAR and there's camera. And can you talk a little bit about that? Like the ones you have probably use different technologies to scan. Yeah, so I think a lot about that. Different, I guess that's a good way to say that. That's a good question. I think a lot about scale. So like the handheld scanner that I have here at the studio, I think of it as I tell people like down to like a golf ball and then up to like car. You know, that's the range of scale that my scanner is capable of. That's so cool. But the problem with small objects is that you kind of need specialized optics to focus. A lot of these camera systems, these scanners have like fixed focal camera systems kind of like a prime lens kind of experience or like you have a minimum focal distance and you can't really get closer than that. And then that's it. So if you want to scan really small things, there's scanner systems that are like jewelry scanners that have optics that are specialized for scanning smaller objects. And if they want to scan bigger things like we're talking about buildings and stuff like that, then the LiDAR systems are able to capture like millions of points per second. And there are these like giant units that are just like mapping whole areas and just spraying points everywhere and calculating distances that way. So it's different scanner technologies for different sizes of objects. And then there's a difference that you also raise about like kind of camera based systems. I would make a big distinction between like sensor based systems and then like image based systems where you're I would say collecting data and then you get to process the data. So the photos are your raw data and then there's a pipeline to process that raw data to generate the 3D model from the photo data. And so there's different. Yeah, the real I would say main benefit of image based systems is that they can be very fast. Yeah. So when you want to scan a person like anytime you're scanning someone who's alive, they're going to be moving. That's what I was going to ask about that. Have you and like I was going to ask if you scan to animals and if you had. I've we've tried. You know, I worked at a studio where I had a multi we used multi-camera rays. I've tried to scan dogs, you know, but it's hard. It's very hard even with the at the time it was like a really it was like a startup. The company that I used to work for now has I would say evolved and so they have even more extensive camera camera capabilities now. There was there was a guy in 2019 at Earth. He came and he had he had a cage. So you'd actually go into it. It was like a cylinder kind of a cage and it had a hundred and fifty or something like that. Raspberry pies with cameras. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you stand the multi-camera rays and he'd say like one, two, three, bam, and it was done as fast as they all could snap at the same time. And then you were done, right? And it like did the whole thing around you and all that stuff and it disappeared and none of us got our scans. So I wonder I bet you that would be the I'm guessing that would be the only way to really even attempt at like scanning a dog or animal or something because you'd like you'd have to take all the angles at once. There's no way they would stay still if you were moving around. It's impossible. It's impossible. Yeah, I mean, I was I was trying to say there was like a studio that I worked for Lens Cloud. And so like you're saying, they were Raspberry Pi based rake originally we were in Brooklyn, but we were such in the prime location, I would say that we got a lot of attention. So as more and more jobs started to come, I think my boss was more and more motivated to kind of try to level up and upgrade the rig upgrade the rig. So we started actually integrating DSLRs along with the eyes and that at the point that I before I left, I think we were at like 200 cameras. Wow. So yeah, we tried we tried dogs and stuff even with the trainer, you know, and very difficult. Yeah. Well, I know this guy this guy like he came he set up and it was really cool technology and he used it a lot for like sports down and he lived in Florida and he would get like kids. Sorry, I ran away from the mic. He would get like kids to come in and like take sports pictures, you know, so they could do like a 3d version. And I think he's like, oh, I'll get your files. We're going to clean him up. We'll get you the, you know, basically an STL or whatever. And I think that's so many people did it. He just I think he didn't have time. Yeah. So I don't know if hundreds of people went through that booth. So I don't know. I don't know if R. C. R. R. C. Maniac knows this person. So I don't necessarily know how like like valid this is, but it does sound like it collaborates with what you were saying that the guy got overwhelmed by all the requests. Um, and then he also said he made that rig for taking the scans of kids and sports. Tell a five year old to stand still see that he wrote that, but yeah, exactly. He was doing it for like kids and sports and stuff like that. And I think, I mean, he had hundreds of people go through that, that weekend. And I'm sure it was just like, I don't, I don't have time. How am I supposed to? Yeah. How am I supposed to stay here and process all of these? Yeah. One point he emailed everybody and said like, I don't know if you want your raw files, I'll send you that and you can mesh them together. Yeah. But he never even did that. So yeah. Well, where are you going to store that too? You know, if you've got hundreds of people and you said you had a hundred or so cameras, you know, where are you going to 50 something? I have a there's a video out there on my right. So if you have hundreds of people going through that booth and 150 cameras, you've got 150 pictures per person times a couple hundred. Like, where are you going to host that for people to even download that? You know, I'll tell you guys straight up scanning as a profession is a very weird, niche thing that I've been doing. I haven't seen many people do it in a way that's, you know, successful, you know, or, you know, like it's I've been lucky to be to continue to find job as a scanning professional right now is I'm in a weird spot because the whole industry is kind of on pause with all this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was somebody I think it was my coworker when I said I was having you on. He was he was asking if you had any like personal experience with the protests. Yeah, I would say I'm personally affected by it. I haven't I haven't gone on the on the picket line yet, but I haven't been able to. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, if you like how it affects you and one of the the groups or so there's no VFX union. That's another thing that's like, yeah, there should totally be a VFX artists union. There's a there's a movement to create one, but there's a and yeah, I know a lot of guys that are there, you know, senior guys, guys older and more talented than me saying they haven't found work in like eight weeks and probably ongoing another three months, you know, like, yeah. So really tough time definitely for VFX artists. I'm freelancing on on various projects trying to like just keep going, but I didn't miss the film work that some of the the coolest stuff I've been able to work on recently. Yeah, well, hopefully everybody comes to agreements and it can keep going sooner than later, right? But I think what's interesting about what you're doing is you're scanning and one of the big things that they're talking about is their like their digital virtual image, right? That's a huge part of it. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Yeah. No, I would. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say that I have very fleshed out thoughts on it. I mean, I do think I have I have very serious opinions about like digital privacy. And so I do hope that, you know, people are able to retain their digital privacy as as there's more and more ways that we communicate, you know, online and share information. So, but yeah, I have seen that, you know, actors are nervous about their digital image being used in perpetuity without them getting their residuals. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know. I would be the guy I would be the guy doing the scanning. That is that is a fact. Yeah, yeah. So do you have anything like near you that you've scanned and then like printed? If you print, I mean, like, oh, yeah, actually, actually, hold on. Oh, nice. Oh, I gotta see this. Okay. Well, he's doing that. Vinny sent some pictures to me of don't share of that cage. I have some to set to go back and find them. Well, guess what? I have these right now. Where yours? Uh-huh. That's what I thought. Well, let's blow them up and check it out. I'm working on it. Click on one. You can do it. It's gonna be kind of hard to share. Well, it's not opening. There we go. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's that's what that definitely was. Edmer or I'm sorry. Or and all the cabling coming out. Hang on. I'm just opening these in new tabs. Nice. So we can take a. Oh, wait. Nope. I'm only sharing the tabs. So yeah. That's okay. That is nuts. But we got an idea of what it looks like now. And that's what it was. It was pretty cool. He has just pies like that with the camera on him. This is very much a zip ties and duct tape kind of situation. Yeah. All right, let's check it out. Now I'm curious. Yeah. So this is for recent client projects. I live in Jersey City. And so this guy came by. He's a. A part of a house downtown Jersey City with these like old capitals that he had that are all damaged and broken. Yeah, that's cool. Cool. Yeah. So he asked me if I could scan it and like kind of like mirror it around and repair it. Okay. Okay. So I printed it here. That's cool. I want to slide together there. Yeah. So I did a cut and blender and slides together. It's not that's awesome. But is that FDM or resin is resin resin. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Absolutely projects. I scanned and printed. I scanned that with my industrial scanner here. I can probably show you. I've got I'm trying to keep track of the comments. Yeah, I think RC maniac is close to you. And he's like, wait, you're in your J. There's a city. Yeah. We also have a bunch of we don't use it. We don't usually have this many questions saved up with a guest. We got a bunch of questions. Oh yeah. Okay. So yeah, this is my scanner. So actually a cool story when I worked on ASAP first music video is the music video for green juice. The whole video was kind of 3D scanning inspired, which is huge point for me. Yeah, very futuristic video. And so the scene where the girls are like scanning for and the scanners that they are using are definitely designed after this style of scanner. That's cool. They're fake. That's awesome. They're just boxes with the green laser, but it's cool effect. And I love to see even like fake examples of, you know, real technologies in film. Yeah, I think of like, what's that movie toy soldiers where they have been printing scene, you know, like it doesn't have to be real. It has to be cinematic and evoke the thought of technology can do is really cool. One of my favorite subreddits is r slash. That's a book light. And it's just people finding things in movies and TV shows. It's as the name implies started off with somebody having some sort of scanner or something and somebody was like, hang on, that's a book light. And it's one of those kind of fold out book bookmark lights, reading lights, and it's just a collection of people finding things in shows. We're like, yeah, that's a shaver or hey, that's pretty sure that's a walkie talkie that they're using there. Like, yeah, love it. Like the famous Gillette shaver that was in the phantom menace that they used for the the communication devices. It's just a little Gillette razor without the razor attachment on it. That's all. Yeah. So this is the scanner I use. Sorry. I'm still holding it up. No, it's okay. We're enjoying it. We're enjoying it. Actually, there's some good, there's some really good questions in one of them while you're holding it up which is from Ryan Armour and it says any tips for using the Inescan there? Yeah, tips. Understand it. Understand how it works. There's different like scan modes. One of them is feature detection, which is, you know, probably my favorite mode, right? It's the mode where you don't need to use any markers. So, okay, basically when it's when you're scanning your collecting data and you're also tracking along the surface of an object and so the feature detection mode requires an object with kind of a very non-uniform surface. So a skull, for instance, I have a skull on my desk. You gotta edit the coroner's office. Yeah. Yeah. A skull is very, you know, non-uniform and varied surface. Versus, you know, like a can, this can be very uniform all over and so if it's approaching it from different angles, you're going to see the same shape and that would confuse. And reflective. So it's like a steak. Yeah, it's the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the worst example of the worst subject for feature detection, if you're struggling to scan something like that and you're going to blame the scanner, like it's not going to do it as well as you're not understanding the tool. But other than that, like the scanner is amazing. Like I said, the minimum point is 0.2 millimeters. So that's 200 microns. That's like two times the width of the human hair. So you can find details. I've used it for I've used it for just recently I've scanned the actor's heads with it for there's a studio like in Union City called Gotham effects and they do like prosthetics for film actors heads. Yeah. Okay. I saw your I think that was one of your most recent tweets too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I scanned this actor's head for that's cool. Something for something, you know, it doesn't matter. You scanned it. Yeah. Go ahead. I was going to say, so we have a bunch of questions. I want to make sure we get to them all. Let's start at the top Caleb. So Sarah says, how do you scan something that big? I think I think that was when we were talking about buildings and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So the LIDAR systems, like I said, the max scan range is a kilometer and the field of view is kind of 360, 270. So it can spin all the way around in a 360 degree circle and then it can also see 270 degrees to almost straight down. Yeah. Take you take this is a terrestrial scanner. So it's like a giant unit. You've probably seen you've probably seen someone using it and you didn't even know this what it was, but it's it's a LIDAR scanner. So it's shooting out beams dots everywhere and the dots bounce back and then it's able to do distance calculations and then that's able to, you know, perceive the environment. And so that's cool. It's really cool. Yeah. You move it around different positions. And do you go ahead? Sorry. I interrupted. No, I was going to say for buildings, you know, we move in different positions. I worked on, I don't know if I want to say which projects but different different. We don't want to get in trouble. Yeah. Let's not get in trouble. Yeah. Different film projects, different movies. That's cool. So for like for tall buildings and stuff like that, though, if you if you're scanning them from the ground, do you then have to combine that with some scans from like a drone or helicopter or something to get the top of the building? Yeah. Yeah, we're above. Yeah. We've actually gone to higher vantage points. Oh, okay. To rooftops. I've been on rooftops. Yeah. So you could scan with the same kind of terrestrial scanner like on a rooftop and get more like get a better angle. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's cool. There you go. And then at that point, we also had a modeling team. So the raw scan data is then referenced by modelers build around it and give it proper topology. And that is so cool. There's a whole pipeline to kind of convert the scan data to production assets that are used in films. Yeah. So good. Vinny said, yeah, Vinny says Gotham is cool. I've heard some of the things they've done because they're local. That's awesome. You guys are in the same area. Yeah. Yeah. They're awesome. Okay. So we also have Ed C. I was gonna say that kind of helps Ed C's question. He said, can we get an elaboration on the scanning for reverse engineering? I'm pretty sure you've hit a lot of those. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, sir. Haha. Reverse engineering. Yeah. So it's usually like someone's brought me apart or something or, you know, can you, can you turn this into a CAD file? Can you? Yeah, it's, it's reverse engineering is very broad term. Yeah. I mean, we'll kind of like the, kind of like the pieces that you were showing us a second ago. Like, Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Something that's broken. It needs to be fixed. Something that has already been engineered and just needs to be recreated. Exactly. There's a good market for old car parts that like dash parts stuff like that that you can't get anymore. I actually had a, I had a co-worker. He doesn't work with us anymore, but he was asking me about 3D scanning and printing for some. He was working on old Mercedes and he just couldn't buy the part anywhere for a, for a turn signal cover. Yeah. I scan an old key for someone before. That's cool. They couldn't find anyone who could, you know, it's not a regular key, you know, it's like a weird shaped old timing key and they're like, how am I going to get this? It's broken in this part. Can you fix this part? So once you have scan data, you can, you know, use your regular CAD tools and you can cat around the shape or you can reference the shape to create your CAD body. There's ways where you can extract profiles from the CAD data and re-sweep and revolve and re-extrude different shapes. So that's cool. Yeah. Once you have the scan data, you're very, you're very much empowered to do a lot of different kinds of things with it and different tolerances of scan data is also very important in reverse engineering where you want something to fit together or behave a certain way, you know, size, scales and measurements matter. Fractions of a movie might matter with different kinds of scanners. So it's important to choose the right kind of scanner for the job. So next on the list, what's the best iPhone scanner? And I just want to say real quick. I love this username come out and play. PLA. That's awesome. I would say any of the new ones. Yeah. What's the best, you know, Marcus has won it. If they're, if they're on, I'm not, I don't know if he, if I saw him comment or I know, yeah, Ethan's dad Marcus, they developed an iPhone 3D scanning app that's out there. That's pretty sweet. I have the 14 pro and I got it specifically because I wanted, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I wanted, I wanted LiDAR capabilities. Yeah. I'm worse with this app, Ternio. So that's my like plug for Ternio, even though, you know, I don't have a dog in the race. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I think is that the one that has like a like a little like a top as the logo. Yeah, okay. I used that. I don't know that I have any pictures on hand, but I used that to scan a family heirloom of Sarah, my girlfriend, her mom had this family heirloom that like it didn't have any makers marks, but also good luck finding a replica of it even if you knew who originally made it. And yeah, that's what we use. And then we resin printed a one one scale one to give us a gift to her other family movers. So I've used, I have used that. I'm cool with the jam who's like the CEO of the company and I've done some detours. That's awesome. But really, really, my advice on phone scanning is, you know, photogrammetry is probably your best bet. So if you're trying to get detailed scans, right, I would say take pictures and use the phone's camera camera to its best ability. Yeah. That's how I use the iPad and that kind of stuff. Yeah. Any app, you know, like, yeah, it's cool. You know, as I use Turnio, I think it's good to have a click way to scan to and taking photos maybe a little bit slower than just putting an app that can help you guide you through the capture process or use LiDAR, you know, which is a whole different functionality of the of the phone, but the LiDAR is not good data, you know. So don't expect the LiDAR scanner in your phone to be better than photogrammetry and don't expect your phone's photogrammetry to be better than a DSLR, you know, like it's not a real it's not a real camera. Like there's there's small sensor, you know, like, right versus important things for scanning is with cameras is a big sensor. So that immediately wants you to push you towards DSLRs or mirrorless cameras. And then high high resolution, you know, so the more the more pixels in the image is the more possibilities to capture features and data that the photogrammetry software likes. So I would say take pictures with your phone if possible. That's awesome. So let's just let's just we have like four more questions, but I don't we're running short on time. So let's just pick like one or two of them. One of them that I wanted to grab was Jack, Jack Black, not the actual Jack Black, but asking, are you using any FOSS software we could obtain? So I'm I mainly wanted to pick that because I don't know what that means and I'm hoping you can. I have no idea what that means. I don't know that means Jack. I'm sorry. All right. And then Jim, did you want to pick one? I will. I like Johnny Five's question. Do you do any crime scene and vehicle scans of crashes in the area? I mean, I've scanned crashes for film, but nothing. Yeah, nothing that was it would be it would be very odd in my opinion to like have a crash happen. A street's closed and they're like, hang on, we're going to call. Let's scan this. Yeah, yeah. They would do that. That sounds like like one of those CSI shows where like everything's kind of fake, you know. It's yeah. And my personal experience only for film, but it could be it could be used for crime scenes. You know, it's a way to capture 3D data as it was. Yeah, there is a there is definitely a an amazing time element to film and to scanning in general where like it's only like this for a short amount of time. You know, and then everybody pack it all up. We're going to go. You know, that surprise that a lot of me I'll say Oh, free open source software. And that's what I meant. Okay, Andrew. Yeah, Blender. Oh, there you go. There you go. Yeah, I love Blender. I'm a I'm a I'm a recent Blender converter. So I wouldn't say it's like fully integrated into everything I use a bunch of face offer to. But Blender is the tool that I would recommend everybody have on their computer. It's like a tree Swiss Army knife that, you know, why not have Blender under the gear? I need to do some right. I need to do some learning. I need to learn how to use Blender for some things. I use a bunch of face offer to but for sure Blender for scanner hardly nowhere. Yeah. For a lot of scanners, I would say it comes with software. Yeah. So like the software usually that operates the scanner it comes with it. Got. Yeah. Awesome. Will it blend? Well, would you would you like to hang out with us and check out what people people submitted that they're making? Yeah. For the hot makes them in. Okay. Please do it. All right. Let's jump into hot makes Justin said it's hot cakes time. Okay. It's time. Not hot. Caleb hot males. Yeah. So context I tried to tag something hot makes to show off on the show and I misspelled it as a hashtag hot males and I just I just left it. I didn't delete it. That's too fun. So good. All right. I love this guitar. Change the subject. Yeah. Happy birthday Chris Riley and thank you fix some dude for another great STL. There you go. So I'm toying around with the idea of maybe making this guitar in real life. Yeah. The CR guitar. Yeah. CR with the Benchy on the top of it. I mean that's definitely fix some dudes fix some dude and I talked about that last week the idea of maybe taking that file and blowing it up and cutting it out on the CNC is a guitar body. That'd be CR is reality. Chris Riley in this case. In this case. Yeah. So he's got a YouTube. He's another like 3d printing YouTuber and he's got a his whole thing is he's very he's got a very rocker vibe and the 3d printed a guitar in bands and played drums and lately bringing the 3d printed guitars and an amp to Murph by the way. Yeah. Let's rock and roll. So that's cool. Next we have a zombie headshot. Who's that by the way. I don't know. They're you're talking about the guitar the hex ukulele. Oh okay. It's a very fun project a hundred percent printed parts minus the strings uses some that's cool maker. Oh there's no there isn't any he didn't even use any metal hardware. It's a hundred percent minus that's cool. Do you know how to play any instruments the money. Yeah actually I played saxophone for years. I don't think we can 3d print one of those. Try recorder is like a saxophone actually. Okay. We can try that. I wanted to 3d print a guitar for the longest time. Oh and if you scroll down on that post he's got the printables model there for people who might want to give it a shot. The hex ukulele there we go. There we go. Awesome. I love this idea. I love it. I love the instruments that are printed. It's just so so much fun. Oh I'm excited about this next one. I saw this one it was posted. Comment on the new Twitter logo. If it's even Twitter anymore. This is cool. Yeah. So this is the resin Phoenix in different lighting was printed on the LLU Saturn and died with alcohol links afterwards. So I the alcohol ink thing was like big a couple of years ago now but now it's it's becoming this is the first time I've seen it. Yeah. I got there we go. This is so sweet looking. So one of the things that I've been wanting to do with my my resin printer lately is get some transparent resin and as if I couldn't get any nerdy or I want to print like what are called blast effects which are just like for Transformers figures where they have like a five millimeter peg hole or a five millimeter peg so you can attach it to their their blasters and stuff and it looks like they're shooting things but I've been trying to figure out how to maybe paint it in a way that doesn't look cheesy you know and but looks like you know a blaster firing or something and this would be the way to go especially maybe I added a light behind it or something too like a little LED. Yeah that'd be sweet. Akuma's Matt says that that resin really or that model really resonates with him. Battle price that he printed an air guitar but he lost it. Hang on where's the I think there's a timeout button on the chat here. Who's who are the vendors. This one this one mayor. This it's just deal with it. I'm playing it. I think oh I saw this. I don't know. Geez I think what is this cop. I don't even know what this combo is supposed to mean. It's so strange. I like it's funny but like. Yeah. So it's a submarine but it's also a toilet paper. It is. Holder. Yeah. This is funny. He comes up with the. Strange stuff. Yeah he comes up with some stuff and I think some people were like you soon and they tagged us in and so I got a show like I do appreciate that it has a it has like the screw hangers on the back though so you can easily hang it on the wall. I mean it's there for your explosions so. Man we're full of jokes today. Bad joke bad joke and I feel bad. But this this was funny. I'm sorry. All right next fix some dude by the way. Another fix some dude taco cats to wish Zolan happy birthday Zolan happy that's right so many birthdays. Yeah model created by the amazing local maker Michigan and join us in celebrating I missed all of this this whole last week I did nothing I know so many birthdays almost very very little and I missed a lot of it. I'm sorry but that happy birthday Zolan taco cat happy birthday Z. All right that's it. Oh I tagged this next one. Yes I think it'd be speaking of Trent speaking of Transformers. I think it'd be cool to get this Sam's Forge guy on the show at some point because they are designing like just fully designing Transformers not modifications not weapons for them just like hey here's a character that didn't exist in a show but it's designed in the style like the art style of that show and it fully transforms and it's fully 3D printed I know fully transforms. Yeah how sweet is that and also I don't know look at those spindly little legs how that I don't know how that thing stands like I think this stuff is so cool. It's posable and everything knows the birthdays happy birthday Krusty Chris Riley Zolan Wexner Perillo and more Liz has got all of it. Yeah anyway I thought this was cool. I think I commented saying like I think it'd be cool if we had him on the show and I don't remember who it was but somebody was like yes but yeah I'm gonna reach out and see if we can get them on because this is cool stuff. I'm a little biased huge Transformers nerd but it's pretty awesome. All right the real Sam Prentice swords are now in demand mainly for my son that brings me to your video. Yeah so he actually sent me a picture in a video over Facebook Messenger earlier today and he said his son would love it if we showed it on the show so let me pull this up so he 3D printed these like extendable swords that are kind of like the remember those the lightsaber toys you know that came out a while ago that you just flick them in the extend that's what these guys are and his son just apparently absolutely loves it hang on. Yeah there we go. Yeah the sound is sound is so good on that too. I know I don't think we heard I didn't I didn't share with audio so but he said I love it and my little fantastic we have we have the lightsabers that they designed at home yeah he loves to grab those out of the cabin like flick them out and he loves so much fun. Remember the there was like a 12 foot long one that I forget his name is Chris Norris. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. He had it Rocky Mountain rep rap festival. Yeah I do. One big cake. We're done. All right. Do you ever make it out to like any of the 3D printing festivals or fairs or like maker fairs when they were doing things? I haven't really. I've been to Comic Con but yeah I would love to go to more kind of like. How far are you from Bel Air Maryland? Yeah Baltimore. Baltimore. Probably like three hours three four hours. You should come hang out with us at IRF the East Coast Reprap Festival. It's a big 3D printing and just maker related festival since September right? Last weekend going from September going into August. So like that weekend yours truly gets to emcee it. They're giving me a microphone which is crazy. As if the last time they give him my microphone wasn't a lesson enough. I'm there. I'm there. That sounds awesome. It's such a lot of fun and you can meet up with all different people that like we all have same or similar hobbies but they like mash all together. Right. Yeah. I think you'd really dig it. You definitely got to come if you can. If you if you come reach out or come find us because we'll be there. Cool. Yeah I'd love to hang out. Next. We're running a little over that's okay. Photos Mint I think. Did you tag this one? I think you tagged this one. I think I did because I was actually messaging him yesterday before he released it and he's like you should see my newest model and I'm like I can't wait and then he just sent me the pictures. Yeah. And I've been so excited about this. I can't wait to print this in resin. Look at the detail on that dude. I don't know how he gets detail on his stuff like this but like it's insane. Yeah. And this is a render right? This is a render. Yeah. But somebody already posted. Maybe he retweeted it. Somebody already posted a resin print of it. Yeah. Yeah. If you go to his page, if you just go to his profile and scroll down real quick. Yeah. Right there. That's a resin print. I can't wait. I want to render. Dang. Yeah. I know. I'm going to print one of these and paint it. I cannot wait to paint this. So much detail. I would suck at painting this but it would be fun to watch somebody else do it. I've been really getting into painting lately dude. We went to a show last Friday and somebody looked at like this little thing that I had painted and they're like I want something like that but bigger. Can I commission it from you? And I was like sure. And that thing that they pointed out was like the second thing I've ever painted. Nice. I felt really special. That's awesome man. Speaking of Andrew Rogers. The Silver Sunbeam. While I've embraced 3D printing and design in recent years, my first love will always be photography. I decided I needed signs to decorate my creator page. Look who's here. So I printed these. Hey Fotis. There he is right there. What's up? So this is awesome. I love this stuff. Yeah. I love these. These are amazing. And it reminds me of Fred's stuff too. Like the logo. I love the just very solid, very clean logo prints. Nice. Got a like from HotMakes when you get some things up. All your stuff is HotMakes. Come on. Come on. So Fotis are you going to be at IRF again? I hope you are. I hope so. I'd love to meet him. I love multicolor. And I love that people are doing stuff like this. It's so much fun to see it. And what's cool is that you can paint if you want, but for those paint illiterate people like me, I could do this in multicolor, you know? You know what I just realized? Awesome. Good to see you. I switched over to my personal account instead of the HotMakes account when I was pulling up the pictures of the multi-camera array. And I've been liking and retweeting all of these posts from my personal account. So I got to go back and do this on the HotMakes one now. That's OK. Last but not least. That's OK. Last but not least. Grumpy Dude, Inferno by Wexter. Sorry, Fotis. Printed on a new official Saturn 2 with their 8K resin. This is ridiculous. That's nuts. That detail is cool. And also, I'm assuming that's painted, right? That's not. Yeah. I mean, that is some good painting, too. Dang. I love that. The man. So cool. Just could not paint like this. Do you ever paint your resin prints? I saw a lot of resin printers behind you there. Damani, do you ever paint any of them? Not so much. I do services. So I'm trying to help other artists. My studio here is the art gallery. So if someone wants me to print them something or scan something, I'll deliver it. But it's going to be great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is just sick. Yeah. It's a lot of work. Man. That's awesome. Nice work there. Vinny Arce, Arce Maniac is like, oh, no, they said his name too many times. Suddenly. Photos minute shows up. It's like Beetlejuice, you know? Oh, he's a flex your showed up in Chad. That would be crazy. Like we just talked about him, you know? Speaking of photos, I'm hoping that we can schedule something soon, dude, because we've been talking about having him on the show for a minute. And then I also reached out to printed printed obsession, which I think he does some work with. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. I think so. So I got something. Okay. One of my favorite things to do is when Jim says, hang on and leaves his chair, I'll make him full screen just to make it awkward. What you got? Oh, yeah. Printed obsession one. I just did. Let's see if I can get it out. That's so cool. So are you going to pay that? This is not going to happen. It's going to be blue. It's life for its whole life. But I love, like I am not the best at resin, but I love the little teeth kind of see him. Yeah. That's so cool. All of the difference. Like, yeah, this, this was a cool model too. I was doing some testing on the Howlett Mage pro, the Creality how it Mage pro came out. Yeah. Good. And it was fast. So, but yeah, anyways, printed obsession. Super cool. All right. I think that's, that's good for. Yeah. I think we got through all of them. Hot makes. So we're running a little late, but. So I know. Cool stuff to look at. Like Caleb said, we're running a little bit late. So real quick, let's go over like who you are. What do you do? And most of all, where can we find your stuff? And then we'll wrap up the show. Yep. One more time. So my name is Dimani. I'm a 3D artist. My specialty is 3D scanning. I'm false deities. I'm all like all social media. F A L S E D E I T I E S. You find me on Twitter, Instagram. My website is false deities.com. I live in Jersey city. I have my own studio. I have my own scanner. I have my own gear. Yeah. I'm an artist. If you need scans for something, definitely hit me up. That's, that's. We, um, just like walk in and be like, scan me. Sure. Yeah. The way you said that. Sure. I've never watched Angle Lens. I've scanned all kinds of stuff. Random stuff. Weird stuff. I've scanned buildings, people, celebrities, tons of celebrities. Yeah. Sweet. Well, I hope we get to meet you at meet you in person at IRF this year. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. If you can, if you can get there, it's not too far from you. I think, um, hopefully it's not too far from you. It's like I said the very last weekend in, uh, September leading in October. And it's, um, just jump on E R R F or East post rep rap festival. I'll send you a link after the show too. Oh, and I wanted to mention to you were talking about your website and your socials. I did put a link to your website and your Twitter account in the description of this video. Awesome. If people want to go check it out. Thank you. Nice. So my Instagram too. Definitely follow me on Instagram. Awesome. I don't think I did that. I posted a lot of stuff there. Okay. I'm going to follow you right now. Scan me like your French models Matt said. I know. I saw that. So real quick, um, next week we have, uh, Jimmy from the DIY and digital railroad, uh, YouTube channel. Super cool. I'm excited. I am. He is a literal producer during the day. Oh, I am already following you on Instagram. Um, he has, um, you know, YouTube channel and he does some really cool stuff with trains. If you're into trains into 3d models and modeling for trains, and then he, it just got into lasers too. So we're going to talk to him. Oh, nice. Really, really excited to talk to him about, um, how he like bridges the trains modeling and lasers and all that kind of together because that's going to be cool. Yeah. It's going to be cool. Um, and I know you're a big train guy. So I mean, me, yeah. Yeah. Um, and then, uh, yeah. What you're saying is we should go ahead and, uh, hop on the hop on the hype train for next week's episode. Oh, there you go. We're going to steam on through. Oh, we're going to make it steamy. That's what I just heard. All right. Hashtag everybody. Thank you guys so much. Oh, geez. No. No hot males. All right. Don't search that. Um, thank you for joining us. The money. It was great. It was great. And, uh, thank you to, uh, Andrew Price, uh, not sorry, not Andrew Price, uh, Jesus, Andrew Sink, Andrew Sink. Yeah. Andrew Sink. Yes. Andrew Sink. He's a big, he's a big scanner person too. Yeah. He's been here for a long time here too. Uh, soon too. It's been a while. I'm going to get my, I have a scanner. I need to make a video on. I should get it out and then like I hit you up and be like, what's the best practices? Yeah. Questions or yeah, please. I'll do that. Awesome. Um, I'll definitely do that. But all right, everybody, you guys are awesome. Thank you for being here on another Monday. We will see you again next Monday, which will be the 31st of July. Yeah. Um, and, and Damani hang out right there. See you guys next week. Have a great week, everybody. See ya. Later.