 We are at Symbiosis right now and we will shortly begin the part 2 of today's session. By the time the slides get uploaded here, I would like to just give a small introduction to that session. Last time we tried this visual communication sessions followed by assignment where faculty members submitted their slides on a particular topic. These slides were supposed because they were submitted by each and every person, we used a technique called peer evaluation or peer review. The inference was not very encouraging in a way because lot of faculty members were not aware of the process to be followed for a peer review. We had situations where kind of average presentation being given zero marks at times by some peers and on 10 marks also by some other peers. Thankfully because we had multiple reviews of the same document, we did not depend on only one. So the extreme cases where we didn't hit us much. But I visit various remote centers, a couple of people do complain even now saying that because of that thing I lost 3 marks and then I am not in the associate faculty list today. So such is the case of that. That prompted us to take a new look at how to do this and we have come up with a new plan this time and I am going to share this in the following session. It is a huge topic to think about because of the subjectivity involved in it. So when you say colors like I was just talking about or fonts, choice of layouts, everybody have their own opinion and they are strict about it. So you cannot counter it by saying no, this layout is only the good layout. What we have thought of is having a two-level peer evaluation process. I am sure you must have read the document about peer evaluation. Is it available right now? No. Okay. So it will be available. I think Jay Krishnan has put that massive responsibility on my shoulders now that I should introduce this topic and also share it with you. Did you get it? Not yet? Okay. So I was talking about the missing of the process in between by the time this happens. There are some questions from various places. So let us just take one of the questions by the time. So we have NDM VP Samaj and they have a question. Sir, what should be the proportion of media, whether it is graphics or videos in a presentation? So I got the question. What should be the proportion of visual and or any type of media in a presentation? I think the answer is cannot be given in terms of like percentage. We have dochutki namak type. I can't give that type of answer. It is the same answer what people give in cookery shows namak swadanussar. So it is because no, you can't quantify these elements. For example, you are explaining and it is there in my presentation also that video. For example, you are talking about quantifiable elements in a research study, whatever you have done and you have to compare that with A to B, B to C, C to D and A to D then you have a bar chart or you have a table and that becomes an important element. Maybe you will write very little about it because you will only write the inferences about it and just show the table bigger size. But when you use something like maybe turbines and something electrical, this suppose that is the topic and you put a huge turbine photograph in every slide then that is taking away the audience from you. So that is where I mean. So if you put a background of the turbine picture in all the slides, just because the topic is about turbines, it is 100% visuals, but zero effectiveness. So use it. I think I go with Sanjeev Kokuru. Namak swadanussar is the right answer there. We'll take one more question and then we'll go. So we are transferring the floor to any LIT. Please go ahead with your question, sir. Actually, this is not related to the visual presentation session, but my submission was that I'd like to share a success story on ICT implementations that happened in JLK state. And I'd like to have a kind intervention of Professor Patak also because somehow he has been directly or indirectly responsible for this success story. Am I permitted to raise this question in this session? Not sure whether I'm not sure whether Professor Patak would be there to listen to this. But nevertheless, I would. I have a better suggestion for this, not because of the typing constraint, but because you are talking something very important. I would really request you to maybe create a small little video clip about whatever you are talking and please send it to us because we are in the process of documenting all these success stories and this thing can be of good help here. Okay, I just get a message that he's there. So I request JNK to please go ahead and share your story in the shortest possible time. Thank you. We have been part of this teaching learning exercise for a long time now. And we have been associated with Professor Patak directly. In JNK, not many success stories come out of JNK. And JNK is in the news for most of the time for a long reason. But this time we have been designated as the technology partner of JNK schools. And we have been instrumental in establishing 450 smart classrooms in the schools of JNK. Now these schools are mostly established in the remotest areas, you know, bordering areas of JNK state. This is one aspect of it. Second aspect is that we have been also instrumental in capacity building of over 5,000 teachers of JNK school education. Now in promoting e-learning, now that has brought a tremendous change on the ground. In fact, it's all documented. I mean, students of remotest schools have started now engaging themselves through various sessions. A lot of schools are being networked and common programs are being beamed. We have been also talking to A-view team so that we can use their interface for networking of all these schools while ICT sessions are being beamed out. So I'm looking forward to mentoring and guidance from Professor Patek so that we can do a lot of value addition to our current program. Thank you very much. Yeah, we will take back the floor JNK and see if I can get a response of Professor Patek. I'm suddenly feeling like I am in a newsroom right now and I'm running a new channel kind of thing. I'm sorry for that. Okay. Can we go over to NMIT quickly to see Professor Patek respond to this? Over to Nithya Meenakshi Institute. Diagnosing from the topic at Hanok. But my thanks and appreciation to our friends from JNK. I think I would like to impartically tell all our 7,000 participants that in spite of the situation in JNK not being thankful. This center has been working with us for all these years and not only this center but a large number of faculty members from different colleges have been coming even under adverse circumstances and attending this program. I think the takeaway for all of us is that in spite of difficulties we show our commitment and passion and JNK and particularly this center is one such reflection of extreme commitment and extreme passion. I thank them and I thank all of you over to you because I think we are impeding on the lunch time of our participants. Thank you. Okay. Thank you sir and thank you all the remote centers who have put up that question mark there. I am really sorry because I have to rush into the presentation now. Let us just go through this activity. It's very important please pay attention and we will go ahead fast now. Go next. We can go even next without telling me now. So I have covered most of this part but one point requires practice and clarity of thought while doing the peer reviewing is because if you if you jumble up in these assumptions then there is a new chance of skewing the results completely. So be sure of this. So we will go ahead and we'll see step by step of what is there. Okay. So what we are going to do is we are going to upload a rubric document that is going to have seven roads seven roads meaning that there are seven criteria on on which you are going to evaluate the given submissions of your peers. Remember peers are nobody but teachers like you and so they are also equally present in terms of creating these slides and sharing and all that. So you have to consider that fact while doing this and the criteria on I will just explain one by one so that it is clear. So the top portion of the slide is an example or a screenshot of a submission and the bottom option if you can read it I am not very sure I am. So is about the explanation of the rubric of it. So just read that and tell me locally here that for this submission how will you rate it. The options are if too many more than three fonts are used in the presentation or too many font options are used in the presentation both come under one bucket. So either of the thing is also a eligible case for giving it a low rating. On the other side if there are two fonts in the presentation but those are not readable because of the font size or some font options are unnecessary like I showed the bold italic underline color red all that then again you give a medium level. However if it is two fonts used which are readable and appropriate usage of font is done then you can give it two marks which is high. So what will you grade this particular submission as how many people will go with zero let me try out or zero why zero how many fonts are used here fonts fonts meaning the name of the font and a second is too many font options. So font sizes is option font is how many fonts can you see here okay only two font so they they pass on that case but because they have not done the other part so then there are two fonts in the presentation but those are not readable is the point you wanted to see. So you are in actually bucket number one and not zero this is precisely the mistake which happened last time a lot that people by mistake did it zero because they thought what is the definition of a font so they thought a chota font but a font it's not chota font but a font it is chota font size versus but a font size of the same font so that is a mistake right I can see that yeah people are also going for one two two lot of people for one and two but I can hardly see a zero here which is a good thing okay good so a lot of people agree to one even in other parts of the country which is very good with us go next and it will complicate the matter further go ahead okay so use of color too many colors colors are too bright too pale is zero some unnecessary colors and some colors are bright or pale is one appropriate colors and all colors have appropriate contrast is two so how many will go for zero okay so too many zeros and okay even okay except for oh my god it is going so fast I can't even read it this is one of the most interesting in sessions I had where the chat is running like a video now I refer that joke where that fan in the hell was running because of the sins performed by some people so there was a clock and it used to go one second every time a scene was performed and somebody was saying where is the scene for some ex politician he said that we use as a fan because it is coming out so far that you have to use it as a fan it is like that now okay go ahead okay slide background too much clutter in the background making unable to read background makes it difficult read in some slides and perfect use of background to make the slide readable and aesthetically beautiful okay so here is a catch why what will you grade this slide ads one okay why one background makes it difficult to read in some slides why which slide is difficult to read this is the title slide right how do you know slides will be difficult to read or this is very difficult to read slide will have the same background these are the assumptions you are making okay fine fine fair enough fair enough fair enough he's right he's saying that if you are with this as the title slide as you that it will continue in the same manner and then when you have more content which is more important content I don't want to know which department you are and all that but when I actually want to know the third law or whatever then you will be making me difficult to read it therefore if this slide background continues in the further slide I'll give it one right if if that person removes this in the next slide it's then what will you give then no background in the subsequent slides then there is no background it is white then what will you give really give zero or one or two still one why no no no font rating you have to give separately okay so here is that catch so now don't stop font rating with this rating this row you have to click only option for the slide background row you don't go up with font scholars here now so if all other slides don't have the background then I don't mind giving it to because it is satisfying the section number two here that all the slides are readable without that background unfortunately if the slide background continues to all the slides then I'm going to give one or zero how many ones oh you are still finding it readable is it okay and zeros okay lot of them are in zero so depends actually and depends is is the point here and that is where it just starts changing however please please please don't mix up rows and columns is my humble suggestion at this point because the moment you do that you are going to move up the entire result of that person go next alignment is this fully aligned or fully unorganized it's aligned so what type of alignment is used the main bullet and the sub bullet are slightly shifted right so people are giving two one already gave two Lucknow has given two today has given two and Salem has given two okay so a lot of people are giving two here because the alignment is quite okay do you see the heading lot of people just pissed that there is a heading okay but don't rate it for the colors and background in this row right now okay got it so don't rate it for this year if there is another section now if the slide presentation is running throughout and you have so this is the from the same presentation where that guy had switched over that background to only the heading in the subsequent slides as a design element okay now now whether it has done this i'll give you a chance on that overall thing in this last row right let us go there fourth fifth use of images this is that question that how much percentage of images is required so it actually depends on the slide so are the irrelevant images used this is about sports and youth is it a irrelevant image okay images are okay but could have been better some images are referred or not referred so images not referred is also a problem where you can deduct marks for that so you know that when you add such images what is going to happen to yourself right so never ever take it for granted that every image in the world is for you to use because and i have heard this bizarre answer from a teacher believe me i found it on google images right so it is not true harsha is here a strong supporter of open source and he will probably give multiple lines of why is it not true but please please please follow the lines of strictness for using such images just because they're available in google images doesn't mean that you can use it left right and center there is option to categorize which are free for use free for modification and use and all such options are present please use it i request people who know these options to tell their colleagues who don't know it and let us just take this point out of the system forever because it is not a good idea to with this point and i would not like to have at least images which are not referred in any one of your submissions because of the simple matter that this doesn't require any creative skills for that you you have to just follow norms there's nothing that rt should tell you it is only about the ethical part so as a teacher i believe you all are well versed with it and let us follow that okay so going back to this size of image so a lot of people where by the way all remote centers were jumping between one and two but no buddy gave a zero to that now we can see a lot of zero suddenly how many people here also agree with zeros yes why because images are either too tiny or too big not writing space for other elements and on what other counts will you give this zero on use of font zero use of color use of alignment ah you will give marks exactly now you are getting the hang of it right so this particular submission doesn't fail on alignment it fails on colors it fails on background usage and realize that right so well last time what happened is that people were carrying out that that mood of that first slide forever and the first slide if it's wrong then people would give zero first slide because in attachment you can see the first slide right just don't open it and just start giving it please please please don't commit such blunders this time because it's your hardened marks at stake right now okay go ahead and i have come to the last slide so i'll only eat and it's off the lens overall impact this is where you can take out all your frustration about how you did this right but it will only factor one seventh of the frustration so that is where the submission is safe that was our point so here you can say fails to communicate totally that's fine or could understand some slide but could not understand some of the slides which is also fine but clear communication and presentation should get two marks if that is the case got it so i think so for this slide people are saying one because if similar slides are there in the interpretation okay so for for this slide where will this slide not score the mark for font and for alignment yes why not for alignment because these two columns are very bizarre way they are presented right okay font size yes on font size it will not score on color it will not score saying alignment yes so everybody's agreeing that on font and alignment it will not score but it will score in other things correct so this is how we have to go ahead for this go ahead next slide if there is anything okay let's talk but there is no time to talk now let's eat should have been the slide actually but let us if you all agree people who are wanting to ask a question or something i would i won't mind having my lunch later because i am not the next speaker anyway going to speak but you guys have to come back so if you have questions please ask them i am not asking the local guys to ask questions because i can ask them they can ask me during the lunch which yeah we'll go to manamani college yeah you know suddenly questions are popping up so lots of questions means two things either they have understood everything or nothing so thank you sir thank you very much for the wonderful presentation sir so through this we have learned how we have to present to the student and then we have a question like like now in the in terms of like the punctuations like comma and then further in all how we have to follow that comma full stop and all okay okay thank you this is gyanamani college of engineering in namakkal so thank you very much for the question so your point is well taken and i think lots of other remote centers also had the similar questions about it i remember that one of the consultants of the project professor prakash vaidya has given a lecture especially on the language part of it the commas and the full stops in fact and he's so critical that often we give him a black and white paper and it comes out as a red and black paper so he changes so many makes so many corrections in that we have a very good documented lecture of that i would request jai krishnan and professor fatak to maybe we can share that lecture with people as an additional reading so by the way just a question so if i give this as an additional reading material in the learning techniques what you have learned what will this be this be called as you you learned this leds lbd's what is this now if i give another lecture in this format if you get on the chat please somebody is answering on the chat it is lxi okay fine okay let us go back to the transfer the floor to maybe we can transfer it to uh supreme knowledge in huge now we see some of the some slides we see that in every slide they put up below date the logo of the college and the slide number and it is reflected in all the slides so i want your suggestion is it a good practice to do that or it is just distracting in every slide if we have bottom the logo of the college the date and the slide number so i think you have uh you're asked the monkey bath for a lot of uh participants here and a lot of faculty members are forced to use a template given by their college where the logo is sometimes bigger than the heading and you don't know what to do with it the simple thing is that you can try to minimize the size of the logo number one second is place it in such a position that it will not obstruct your content second third is uh convert it into a manner that it will not uh grab the attention and uh kind of overtake your script so your script is that they should read my heading first and the text but if it is reading the logo first and the text and again the logo and the bullet and again the logo and the third bullet because the logo is like spinning or rotating and things like that then in such a case avoid all these options in fact if you see the good logos are those which are created for multiple usage and you should just as a curiosity thing you can just go ahead and look at logo usage guidelines for the best of the organizations in the world for example use go and see uh uh who so logo usage guidelines will be another page on their website where they'll say if you want to use it in a presentation use this image if you want to use it on a project report use this image if you want to print it on a certificate use this image and the certificate would be fully colored and the one in using on the document will be in a monochromatic way maybe a black and white thing and such and such cases are created especially for that even some of the indian counterparts like napalm if you go to their webpage you will find out these things and that's essential i'm not asking you guys to do that because it's out of scope for you what minimally you can do is you can at least position it in such a way that it will not obstruct your view and uh still go ahead with your communication also you can control the size of it so these are the two ways of doing it but anyway thank you for an important question i have one more question here deep party college of engineering in indapur sir let me first of all uh thank you uh say thank you and congratulate to iq bombay for bringing all of us to a same platform maybe uh faculty from a remote place or maybe he's from arban so i would like to thank all of you first uh my question is sir ki uh i want to present any idea in any uh kind of defense or examination how much number of slides i have to keep over there for that my presentation and second if i am explaining any uh topic to my student in classroom so how much slides there i have to keep in uh so that i i can keep the rhythm of uh that presentation thank you indapur for this question the question is about the the quantity now right so all this while we have talking about quality and therefore the other extreme has been asked like what is about the quantity how many slides are enough slides uh so wherever you have a timeline uh it is pretty sure how you use it but depends on the uh the content actually so for example uh i would like to example from my own presentation right now where i had a think pairs share slide i was required to make so many slides about it so i had a think question pair so i clubbed everything in one slide and i made one slide out of it and when i say i discussed the example about it i had another this thing and i used the animation feature to show one thing at a time and i could make that if you ask me number of slides that presentations uh was showing some 120 slides or something right the first presentation 58 slides okay so people had a uh a big uh suspense in their mind like it's going to be 58 slides one minute per slide also it is not possible how will it do it so it is not about that part it is also about how you team your slides and how much content have you packed on one slide is the is the actual uh thing there so in your classroom you are sure you are going to get 45 minute slot and you know uh now with this added knowledge of uh active learning and all that now you know how much time are you going to spend on interaction with the students and then you also know that how much time is left for them to read those so in order to do that you have to accommodate your slides so for example if you look at any presentation by professor fact it has only one word on that not even a sentence and forget about bullets and everything you'll have only one word slides but he talks about various other uh sometimes uh motivational talks and other things that he can afford that but still he tries to concise his slides as much as i have seen his computer science lectures also they are very concise in terms of slides because people can't read and download the slides you don't have to really read each and every word written there that is another mistake but i'm not talking about it here of reading the slides so it depends on how you how you control that timing in the slide will give you the answer how many slides you want in best practices of conducting presentations or conferences you will always get a sentence at the end that it should not exceed six slides or it should be limited to three slides or four slides whatever so they know that yeah only then it can happen in that time and they have a good understanding of that so similar thing can come with experience that how much time can you spend on each slide and each slide will give you a different answer actually so i can't tell you that go by the thumb rule that takes like five minute chalega types say it's not possible to do that let us take one more uh question uh Dronacharya college sir i have one question and one practice i am doing okay second question will be from my colleague my first practice i am going to use i'm using is that is there is something called as 10 2030 rule of power point presentation 10 2030 rule of power point presentation i learned this some five years back to some literature review at 10 first hand stage it should be not more than 10 slides 20 stage would be not more than 20 minutes that is it not less than 30 phone size 10 20 30 10 slides 20 minutes 30 minimum phone size i've added one more thing here i did one more thing here 10 2030 oblique three three missed three bullet points at the most that is the one practice i'm making use of that last many years and the question is my question is why we are using or why we have the option of rehearsal here's option in the power point presentation what's the use of that it really required so dr jackpall thank you very much for a very pertinent question and thanks for pointing it out because i don't think so many people have seen that there is an option called rehearse those who have seen have not used it practically because they don't know why to why it is there first of all so it is actually for the last bullet on my plan execute impress slide which is called practice so once you the question which was from indapur about how much slides should be there for my lecture so this thing answers that so in fact power point has come up with the option that when you are in a presenter mode and it is connected to a projector you can have differential screens so one screen which will go to the projector will be the slide in full screen mode on the other hand whatever you will have on your computer monitor will be the next slide coming up and also the timer which is shown so the timer can be used in two ways one is that you can start with zero or you can do it as a countdown where you start from 45 minutes and then keep coming down it will also allow you multiple other options of having your notes displayed so we don't have to worry about missing out a point and other things so there are various features which are available not only in power point by the way but in all other open source variants also if i'm right so the feature is available in open office and libre office and other places also please make use of that and it will just enhance the thing so very pertinent factor here okay so i think we we stop at this point but i before i go i just do announcement i am offering a course on read animation on it bombay x the registration has started if you log into it bombay x accounts now you will be able to see it this course is a self-paced course and it is a eight chapter course so you can take it in your own speed it will end up somewhere in december the registrations will be open up to november so that anybody who wants to do it can take it up in my in my records the shortest time taken by an individual to finish the course has been four days and there are people who have scored 99 marks by logging into the software only for four days and so that is how things are going up fast for the students of this age and i request all of you to have a look at it and recommend it to the students who are interested in this as a skill or even as a subject in serious uh to tell you some deep thing more deeper about it simbiosis college is taking that course as a elective in in their college itself and they are running this in a blended mode which means that their students will be enrolled and their local coordinator will be able to see their progress uh we will give them a dashboard to see their progress only and then we will be able to see the overall progress of the course happening everywhere else but the self-paced mode is allowing them to schedule their lectures at their own time so if they want every thursday friday their lectures then they can just show these lectures at that time so i uh there is another college in Ratnagiri uh Pinoleks college which has actually used this course as a elective in their college for last two semesters already there are many more college Rajkot college has been using it all the remote center but they go to another college and do it so there are various models happening why this announcement is important is another reason that i am going to offer a course on computer game creation in mid of october for which this course is a prerequisite so students who are interested in game creation and interactive simulations and all that should take this up first and try to finish it off before the next course starts off so that was a small announcement i wanted to make because i saw one advert in between i thought i will also do one more and with this i thank you all of all the participants across the country who participated really well and i don't know how much chat has generated in this session itself which is very interesting to see please go ahead and have a look at the videos try to come up with your own ideas about this thing please keep submitting them we have already started a discussion forum about this thing please post your comments on that and we will continue to take it up offline as well and second announcement obviously about the animation course please go ahead and do that i have no doubt because of this tool what we have in hand we are definitely going to benefit with each other people especially who are come there from different colleges and attending at a third party remote center for them i request you to take this opportunity to make a group in your own city now and come up with more interaction options with these faculty members in fact as easy as option like when you come back from lunch please don't sit on the same table exchange your seats and try to talk and interact with new people every time you come back that simple gesture will at least make you aware who all attended from this center right that much is good enough for making a community which a pressure for our dreaming of having for the entire country so thank you very much for your support and we sign off