 Joe and Jill Biden were talking to CNN's Chris Cuomo about mental health and the need to destigmatize it and I absolutely agree with everything they were saying in this portion of the interview because of course Mental health awareness is something that we all need to focus on. There are so many people who still in 2019 Downplay, you know the need for mental health awareness and dismiss mental health issues altogether Which in my view is just an idiotic position to have because if you believe that other portions of your body Can sometimes be defective in some way or require attention require healthcare Why would you exclude the brain? From that list of things that can go wrong with your body if you can say well, you know Sometimes the body doesn't produce insulin so we need to take insulin shots to fix that Why can't you also extend that logically to the brain and think well? You know if the brain isn't getting enough serotonin that can also cause problems Like there are literally people who argue that mental health issues are just all in your mind They're made up and that to me is infuriating and it's absurd because I have struggled with mental health my entire life So to hear people talk about this in such a dismissive way like Keemstar for example, it's infuriating So I loved everything that Joe Biden was saying here was the first time he actually said something That made sense and was actually substantive and important however, the conversation just fell off a cliff once the issue of Healthcare came up because if you genuinely believe That we should have healthcare parity when it comes to physical health and mental health Which is the only right position in my view then there's only one policy solution that has been proposed that will do that It's Medicare for all but he's gonna give you a reason as to why we shouldn't do Medicare for all and his reason is so bizarre so Juvenile that I don't even know how he takes himself seriously how he doesn't reflect on what he's saying because it's that dimwitted Let's listen think of all the people out there Chris who don't I mean one of the things we should be debating in this campaign is Healthcare whether or not we have the adequate and what's the best way to get to healthcare when Barack and I When Barack did I help when the Affordable Care Act we made parity between mental health and physical health That was a fundamental breakthrough and how we thought about how things should work So look I just think the party now wants to get rid of the ACA Medicare for all cannot exist with the ACA cannot and that's why I'm opposed to any Republican who wants to dismantle it or any Democrat who wants to dismantle it The idea you're gonna come along and take the most significant thing that happened that any president has tried to do and that got Done and dismantling makes no sense to me or to the top five people in your polls right now on the complete opposite side from you Well, I understand that that's worth debating about that's about the future. What are we gonna do? I believe they're totally sincere I think they think they have the right answer, but look starting over it would be I think a sin They say you're either all in or it's half measures that don't work Well, let me tell you something I I noticed the measures and the Affordable Care Act worked pretty well put 20 million people back And gave them health care 100 million people who had pre-existing conditions You notice none of them are saying they want to do with any that right and you notice none of them are saying that they but there Are saying they want to if you satisfy with your employer-based health care, you got to give it up You're so look we provide a Medicare option. That's exactly what rock and I talked about in the beginning through though No, we couldn't get but now now things are changed because guess what's happened, you know The thing rock and I would talk about God love him. He never took credit that he should have because it was like everything was dropping on his desk I said we ought to make the case that people know what you did It wasn't until they started to take it away They even realized it was a consequence of what Barack had done and so now if you notice in 18 We went out in all those campaigns. You find a republic is that I want to get a rip I want to get rid of pre-existing conditions coverage. I want to get rid of but so it's a different place and The the the punishment educated in a way that I believe they've embraced it. I'm ready to take that on So he's essentially admitting here that he doesn't want to do Medicare for all because that means you'd Essentially have to get rid of the ACA to do Medicare for all and What he implied there was you know, the ACA is valuable because Obama did it. I Know, you know Medicare for all would lead to universal coverage for every single American, but Obama did it so there's sentimental value in the ACA and we started on this trajectory. So let's just Follow that trajectory and you know improve the Affordable Care Act He literally is Communicating to you that he doesn't want to do Medicare for all because he wants to protect something that Obama did because Obama did it What an imbecilic Way to view politics He's functionally the opposite of Trump because Trump wants to dismantle everything that Obama does because Obama bad and Joe Biden Wants to protect Anything that Obama did because Obama good It doesn't matter if Obama just made really incremental list fixes to things Well, we should protect that incremental list fix because we all love Obama and we want to protect everything He did even if he didn't really do much and he left a lot of room for improvement I mean who views politics this way Who views politics this way? Let's say hypothetically speaking that Bernie Sanders were elected president and he fought for Medicare for all But only got a public option. I would be disappointed. I would be frustrated But I like Bernie Sanders. So let's say we get a president You know, whoever after Bernie Sanders subsequently and that individual says well, I want to now move to Medicare for all What progressive would say no, we shouldn't move to Medicare for all from a public option because Bernie Sanders did it And we like Bernie nobody gives a shit about the legacy of a president. We care about policy This is what being the president is about. It's not about your fucking legacy. It is about governance and Producing good policies that benefit the American people. I don't care that Obama did the ACA. I don't give a shit It was Romney care effectively, which was cooked up by the Heritage Foundation I couldn't care less about the ACA what I care about is Expanding health care to every single American. That's what I care about But Joe Biden here is telling you, you know, I would never dismantle dismantle the ACA because Obama did it And Obama, you know, anything he does that is get that woman fuzzy feeling Pathetic absolutely pathetic Joe Biden. You're pathetic He also says starting over I think would be a sin So we already laid down the foundation with the ACA. So why would we start from scratch? Except this is a lie. He's lying to you because with Medicare for all you're not starting from scratch You're taking a policy that's older than the ACA which is the most popular social program in America Medicare And you are fixing it. You're closing all the gaps your expanding coverage And then you extend that to everyone. We're not starting from scratch with Medicare for all We're building off of a more solid foundation That has stood the test of time That people love so to say, oh, well Medicare for all is starting from scratch Either you're dumb or you're disingenuous when you say something like that Joe Biden But this isn't just Joe Biden other corporate Democrats say that as well, but it's a lie We're not starting from scratch. We're not saying a new single-payer system where we wipe out Medicare We're taking what already exists and we are improving it making it better and making its coverage universal So how can you possibly say with a straight face that Medicare for all is starting over? That makes no sense because it's factually incorrect and you're being a liar Joe Biden and then he also uses the line that we've been seeing lately that you know getting Medicare for all Somehow constitutes people losing something because if you get Medicare for all then as a result you lose your private employer based Insurance except people will lose that anyway if their employer decides on a whim We're gonna change providers or if they lose their job And is it really accurate to say that you're losing something if you're getting something that's better in return? I mean if I'm holding a turd in my hand and you take that turd out of my hands and give me a snickers bar instead I Guess you could technically say well I lost the turd, but you're getting something better and I don't know why whenever I talk about health care I always use you know analogies related to shit, but It's on my heart, so we'll roll with it. I mean you're not losing anything. You are getting catalac coverage This is what an anti-medicare for all person Michael Bennett called it He said of course even though you're losing your private insurance sure all admit that you're getting catalac coverage You're getting something better. You're not losing anything. You're gaining something and you're not just gaining better coverage You're getting money in your pocket because guess what you may see higher taxes a 4% payroll tax for example, which is one of the proposals to help fund Medicare for all But you're no longer gonna be paying your monthly health insurance premiums, which go up all the time You're no longer paying for co-pays deductibles the average American will save more than $4,000 every single year if we get Medicare for all so we literally have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain however Because people like Joe Biden are bankrolled by the health insurance industry Which is clinging to life right now as they see support for Medicare for all skyrocket He's spreading this misinformation not because he believes the bullshit. He's saying I think he's probably also Misinformed, but I think he's he's well aware of the fact that Medicare for all is better He's spreading this misinformation at the behest of his health industry donors So it's not a coincidence that people like Michael Bennett John Delaney and Joe Biden They all have the same lines of attack against Medicare for all. Oh, well, you lose your employer based insurance Oh, well, why would we start from scratch? Do you ever wonder why these people all have the same exact talking points? It's almost like these are talking points that are disseminated by These companies that have something to gain because their CEOs happen to say the same thing This is how you know who is and isn't on your side Medicare for all if you truly care about all healthcare physical health mental health then Medicare for all is what will truly Make physical and mental health reach parity and guess what Medicare for all covers everything dental vision and mental health care But Joe Biden won't tell you about that he doesn't want to admit that because he's a liar Specifically because he's shilling for his health industry donors and that's a damn shame