 Welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Porter, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly webinar series where we cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. We broadcast the show live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record the show as we are doing today, and it will be hosted to our website for you to watch later at your convenience. And I'll show you at the end of today's show how you can access all of our show archives. Both the live show and the recordings are free and open to anyone to watch. So please share with your friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, anyone you think might be interested in any of the shows we have on Encompass Live. If you are not in Nebraska, the Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for libraries. That would be similar to your state library. And so we provide services to all types of libraries in the state, so you will find shows on Encompass Live for all types of libraries, public, academic, K-12, corrections, museums, archives, historical societies, anything and everything. Really, our only criteria is that it's something to do with libraries, something cool libraries are doing, something we think they could be doing. We do book reviews, interviews, mini training sessions, demos of services and products, all sorts of things. We have Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes come on the show and talk about programs and things that we're doing here through the commission, but we also bring on guest speakers and as we have this morning. Today with us is Kim Gile. Good morning, Kim. Good morning. Next door, Kansas. Kansas City Public Library. And she is, this is a session that was done at Internet Librarian previously. Yeah, with a couple of special modifications just for you. Yes, of course. And that was a while ago too. That was last fall. And it was one that was recommended to me by our technology innovation librarian, actually Amanda Sweet. And I am a huge supporter of Wikipedia. We've had other sessions on the show about various Wikipedia related things. I think it's a great resource. The outsourcing of it is awesome. And I use it every day probably for something. You're not the only one. And so Kim's going to talk about some cool thing they did at Kansas City Public Library, their Wikipedia and residence program. So I'm just going to hand it over you to take it away and tell us all about it. Well, thank you so much. I am so excited to be here and my family hails from Nebraska for many years ago from Tilden. So it's nice to be like. So I'm here today to talk about public libraries and Wikipedia and how we can creatively collaborate together. So I'm Kim Gile I'm the director of branch services here at the Kansas City Public Library that background there is our community bookshelf which is also featured on our Wikipedia page. I've been in libraries working in every position that you can imagine practically from shelving books to doing story times to writing comprehensive library master plans and building buildings to, you know, cleaning up trash. It's all over the place, as we all do. Yes, yes, since 2001 I've been in libraries. And on Wikipedia, I am Casey librarian. So I know that this is not an interactive platform where I can see everybody's hand raised but just to kind of get a sense of the, the variety of audiences that we have. A lot of people read Wikipedia articles every single day or often right. Some people have edited Wikipedia. Some people have never edited Wikipedia at all or they've only done it one time. Some people are just really interested in learning more about Wikipedia, they heard, they hear a lot about it, but they don't really know it's kind of intimidating or overwhelming. And some people just show up to things because I'm coming and I am not above doing that today. I said I use it almost every day. I've looked. I've never edited anything. I don't think. But I've looked behind the scenes to see how that could work. I would be happy to show you my you already have my email but I'm going to put my email in at the end of this and then anybody wants a quick lesson on how to edit I'm happy to show you and I'll talk a little bit more about that. So, today, the content that I'm going to cover is how we started this whole process with Wikipedia and learning about it, how we jumped into programming using Wikipedia editathons, how we eventually figured out how to do a Wikipedia in residence and then I'm going to invite you to join the open knowledge movement with me. So back in 2018. I was one of those people that I've heard nothing but bad things about Wikipedia that it's not a reliable source of information I was totally skeptical. And I realized much to my frustration that all of my patrons are using Wikipedia, all the time to do their research to start their research to find basic information. And so, I was like, Okay, if I if I know my patrons are using this I need to know more about it. And so I went in to learn what the deal was with Wikipedia. And nine weeks later I had totally drank the Kool-Aid. And on this slide which I'll share with everybody later that available here is the link to the content that you can review for yourself. I came out of it with a great excitement for Wikipedia. And so, why is Wikipedia such an amazing tool for both everybody in the world and for libraries? Well, number one, it's open access, which means it's free to everyone. Number two, it's crowdsourced. Anybody can edit popularity, it is always fluctuating between the fifth and the 10th most visited website in the world, which is so significant size and scale, it is the largest encyclopedia that exists, and it is always growing. There are over 40 million articles that are within Wikipedia. It's also multilingual so there are over 250 languages that are represented which there are obviously more languages that we need to add. But 250 languages free. That's a great start. And then it's open source, which means it is a collaborative tool that people can use. So within Wikipedia, there are these things called the Wikipedia pillars, which are the rules with Wikipedia. So neutral point of view means that you want to write and edit articles representing all significant views without bias. We'll talk about that. Verifiability. We want to be able to verify using reliable sources with at least three different sources, which means you can double check this information and make sure that it's true. No originality, which means if you're writing a research paper, you can't publish your original research on Wikipedia, conflict of interest, you can't write about people you know or who pay you, your friends and relatives. And notability, you must be visible and recognized with among at least three separate sources. So knowing that neutrality and notability can be pretty problematic. Nothing can be completely neutral. That is just not something that human beings can do. So just acknowledging that and then notability. Notable according to who right just because someone is is not written about with three reliable resources doesn't mean that that person or that subject is not notable in a lot of communities and a lot of areas so there's just important important to acknowledge that it's also really important that we acknowledge the gender and racial bias content gaps within Wikipedia. So I'm going to read these quotes to you Wikipedia estimates that 77% of their editors are white and 91% are men. So the black lunch table is a US based oral history archiving project that was founded back in 2005, and it focuses on the lives and works of black artists. And it includes oral archiving salons pure teaching workshops meet ups and Wikipedia edit funds it's a great resource. And then art and feminism, which is another community of activists that wants to close the information gaps related to gender and feminism and the arts and they use Wikipedia as a springboard for that. And they say as of 2011 the Wikimedia Foundation found that less than 10% of its contributors identify as female so also acknowledging the gaps that we have within Wikipedia as representation. So, with that said, I have all this information here I decided I'm going to go like straight in and host Wikipedia edit funds. We jumped right into this program. Here are a couple of examples of the edit funds that we did with we focused on Kansas City jazz. We did some on with the National Library of Medicine we've partnered with their biannual site NLM edit funds. We did a Kansas City black history edit fund and then we also did one on Kansas City's philanthropy community where really philanthropic community. So, at these events, we built community. We had participants that were learning something new we have people who would come in that have edited Wikipedia before and they knew exactly what to do. We had people coming in that didn't even have an email address, but they were passionate about these different subjects and they wanted to tell their stories and share Kansas City story right. We added diversity to the editor demographics and the collections that we have highlighted within those edited funds were made discoverable worldwide so we talked earlier about how Wikipedia is consistently among the top five to 10 websites visited in the world. Imagine like our local history room is the Missouri Valley room where we keep all of our local history resources, unless you come to Kansas City and you go to that room during the hours that were open you're never going to find those resources right, but at these edit funds, we took those citation materials, and then those citation materials go on to Wikipedia as citations. And then suddenly, your collections that are normally be either behind paywalls or behind physical doors. They become discoverable to everyone right it's so it's, it's pretty exciting. We were also very intentional to think creatively and out of the box. So for example the jazz Wikipedia editathon that we had we hosted it at the American jazz museum. We had a live jazz band. We had drinks. There's a local distillery here in Kansas City that's owned by a guy who is just a fabulous jazz fan and so he said yes I will make you a signature cocktail for your editathon. So fun and interesting and people who in the Wikipedia community that I talked to you about this program they're like you did what I was like yeah super fun they're like that sounds amazing. Yeah, so it was just really fun. And then, as we came into 2020, you know, we had to pivot to some virtual editathons, which we, we ended up hiring local topical experts and speakers for event introductions. We still continue our community partnerships and highlighting special collections, and all of that and we found that breakout rooms with virtual editathons are really really good thing. Just highlighting the creative partnerships that we have. I already mentioned the jazz museum and restless spirits. We worked with the night foundation we worked with the local grocery store with the jazz orchestra with the Bruce our Watkins museum for our black history editathon. We also worked with the Casey auction company that just found out about what we were doing and decided like hey I want to participate somehow why don't I just sponsor the the snacks that you guys have for your black history editathon and so we were able to support a black caterer here in town. So, it was just really fun how everything seems to come together. And then another important thing that I cannot emphasize enough that we often forget about within the world of libraries is we have to tell our own stories. We have to do things just like this what I'm doing now to to inspire people and to get other people interested in doing these kinds of things so we can grow the movement, right. So, I also authored and co authored several articles that were published, sometimes an unexpected spaces so like, I have control over my own LinkedIn profile right so I wrote an article on LinkedIn and started there. And then we wrote an article for computers and libraries which is eventually how I ended up presenting at Internet librarian, and in Casey studio magazine which is a local arts magazine. And you know it just publishing in somewhat surprising ways is a really cool way to meet people where they are, and it sort of breaks down those barriers of communication. So, you know we did all those editathons we published stories and presented at conferences. So, what is the next step. The next step, you know, go big or go home right we decided we wanted to look into getting a Wikipedia in residents. So, first off, what even is a Wikipedia in residents. It is a that person is a liaison between glam institutions glam institution glam is an acronym for galleries, libraries, archives and museums. And that community is a gosh, they're, it's such a wonderful community of information professionals that also very often will use Wikipedia and Wikimedia platforms to share information. Wikipedia and residents will work to advocate to advance the open knowledge projects through Wikipedia editing and Wikimedia Commons entries and wiki data, which we'll all talk about later. And then we looked at what other institutions were doing with their Wikipedia and residents so me specifically I looked at the Smithsonian and met Kelly Doyle there. She ended up being a mentor for our edit for our Wikipedia and residents here in Kansas City. I looked at the MoMA. We looked at the Philadelphia free public library and other connections that we have within the claim community to figure out how we could do it and what it would look like. And another important thing that we did was to collaborate and build buy in and expectations internally. So a lot of it was explaining what even is a Wikipedia and residents. Why is it helpful for the Kansas City public library. What is the value there and trying to explore what, you know, with the existing expertise and resources that we had here within the Kansas City public library. What could we use a Wikipedia and residents for to elevate our collections and to teach people those information and media literacy skills. So our Missouri Valley room is our local history that we talked about digital branch is our website. We also have a couple of standalone history websites we have Casey black history. We have a couple of other ones as well, which I can link to later. And then we have a philanthropy team that goes out and helps us raise money. We knew that we couldn't necessarily, well, we couldn't fund a full time residency position without external support. And so we engage with our philanthropy team there. We looked with our outreach and reference and tech access teams so outreach being we have subject specialists that do a lot of programming throughout the system with subject specialists like health and wellness and civic engagement and small business and entrepreneurship. Our reference team does the more traditional research within libraries and teaching those information literacy skills and tech access is a team that we have that provides digital literacy training and access to technology and mobile devices that we can loan out to patrons. So when it comes to funding. What I did was I created a proposal that we could scale up with we wanted it to be a one year residency a three year or a five year residency. Again, that's based on what I learned from other institutions that had Wikipedia and residents. We were able to fund a one year residency through a private donor, the WT William T Kemper Foundation funded $50,000, which is about 80% of what it costs to cover the salary so the library covered the benefits the technology conference travel, and we fully funded the last six months of the residency that making it a 18 month residency. And then we left at other models to see what other funding sources might be available to us. There are other like Canada can get a federal grant. We worked with a library in Canada that had federal grants that supported their Wikipedia programming, depending on where you are in the world can depend on what kind of funding opportunities are available to you. And then the Wikimedia Foundation itself also has a lot of grant opportunities. I have been very fortunate enough to receive two Wikimedia Foundation scholarships to present at conferences. And it's, you know, it's one of those things where if you ask, you have to ask. And, shockingly enough, when you ask, most often in this world, the answer is yes so that's been, that's been really cool. In here I put some of the details of how we posted the job and what we wanted out of the out of the wikipedia and residents, just so you can share so if you want to take screenshots of any of this or I can email them to you you might email us later on in the slide deck. While you're talking about that, that we will have these slides available afterwards with the archive to so those of you that don't know don't have to try and write all this down. Absolutely. And anything and resources and everything will be available afterwards when we get the recording up. Thank you. So we looked at, we wanted this position to focus on Kansas City. If you have ever been to Kansas City or know anybody from Kansas City, everybody in Kansas City, thanks Kansas City is the greatest town, and we love our city, and our city loves us back. And it's just a weird, we're incredibly proud of who we are and we're excited about Kansas City in general so come to Kansas City, you should come to Kansas City. So within wikipedia, we wanted to focus on our history and our topics, our people, our stories, and engage both library staff and wikipedia editors and the members of the public to make our digital make our content digitized and more accessible therefore to everybody across the planet, and with an emphasis on underrepresented topics and editor demographics because again we acknowledge that there are those gaps within wikipedia. And these I'm going to just kind of go over really quickly. We wanted to make sure that we engage with local editors within Kansas City in the Kansas City area. We wanted to basically establish well reinvigorate the wiki project Kansas City and the wiki meetup Kansas City, because those have been pretty stagnant for a long time within wikipedia. In any city, I was looking around in Nebraska to see what kind of wiki meetups happen in Nebraska. You guys don't really have very much so it's a really like cool opportunity to start. I haven't heard of anything. Yeah, and I like some presentations on it and I always share things about, you know, things like this but yeah I don't think we've had. I always encourage people to check your library and make sure it's correct in there if there is something in there because you don't want. University of Nebraska Lincoln has done some things probably that makes sense. And with an emphasis on gender inclusivity on wikipedia but that's pretty much the only thing that I was able to find coming out of Nebraska so. We also wanted this person to share the stories share the implementation process presented conferences. We wanted them to improve wikipedia entries themselves. There's a white paper that outlines the story of how we were able to do this program share lessons learned. There is a thing called the wikipedia and wikimediants and residents exchange network also called WREN WREN that we had our wikipedia engaged in. There's a glam newsletter that they could participate in and then just teaching wikipedia and media and information literacy skills. And then we started in interview questions because it was kind of a struggle for us to figure out how like if you don't know wikipedia and live and breathe wikimedia in general. It's hard to figure out how do you even find a position to do this right so here are the interview questions that we asked for this for our candidates, and then hiring considerations for me and for us as a library. Wikipedia you have and wikimedia larger. There are a lot of people who have a great deal of technical expertise and they can, you know, write programs and do batch uploads and, you know, all kinds of things and while those skills can be super helpful. It's more important for us in the public library wikipedia and residents position to be able to do community engagement and get people excited and teach those skills right so we knew that. And in our interview pool in our candidate pool we had people with both. And so when we were looking at it we realized the community engagement is something that was more important for us. And then for our interview panelists it was very important that we create this buy in for the position in general we wanted it to be successful and if you don't have internal buy in. We were creating unnecessary barriers right so we included people from our local history Missouri Valley team we included people from our digital branch on the interview panel right. We also it was really important to us to embed equity into the job description duties, acknowledging the gaps that are wikipedia acknowledging that we wanted to be able to hire people, regardless of their background. We wanted it was 2020 and 2021 when we were writing this and so we really needed to kind of like, we were so excited about everything that we could do but we needed to be realistic about the programming that we could do during the pandemic. So, understanding that most of what we needed to do was going to be virtual and that just is what it was right. So our wikipedia and residents, they were excited because we were able to provide a remote remote and hybrid work environment for them. We were very clear about posting the salary in the job description and salary was living wage. It was a full time benefited position we did not require an MLS and have minimal degree requirements and then from the wikipedia and it was important for them that they had trust from me to basically do what they felt was the right thing to do and the best thing that didn't do based on the expertise that they had so we ended up with the first wikipedia and residents at a public library in the entire United States. And that is Miranda Pratt this is a self portrait they did of themselves. And on wikipedia they are christen them in 123 so super excited that Miranda was able to successfully complete their residency. So within the wiki verse, there are many platforms that we can't we and everybody could engage with and the three that we chose to focus on primarily our wikipedia, which is the free encyclopedia that we talk about and we're probably most familiar with wikipedia is the public commons, which is where you can put copyright free and public domain content, including images sounds video clips video clips, and then wiki data is something that is sort of like an infrastructure that all of the other wiki verse platforms kind of sit on. And it's basically pieces like one piece of data that you can input so for example, if you wanted to create a wiki data entry for your library or for yourself, for example, you could have a wiki data entry. And it's, it's kind of cool concept. We can talk about that for later too but those are the three platforms that we focused on. I'm going to show you some of the sample programs that Miranda put together and some of the lessons learned that I just want to remind everyone to if you do have any questions. Go ahead and type into the question section of your go to webinar interface. Kim can answer anything about the process, how they did this, anything you want to know more about with how they got their wikipedia residents or people using wikipedia at the library. So definitely type in questions. When you think of them, no need to wait till the end. Absolutely. Thank you for that reminder. Let's see so some of the sample programs that we put together that Miranda put together. We did wikipedia one on one workshops. These top two are linked with YouTube videos we recorded a couple of them so we have examples that people can use for future programming as well. There will be a history context and more, which is a very much an introduction of kind of like the pillars that we talked about the context as far as where the gender gaps are where the racial gaps are, you know, gaps and things like oral histories because oral histories are passed down without necessarily documenting them so if you don't have documentable sources that you can cite that history can be lost so like that kinds of history and context we did creating an account and editing so that's like the very basics about you know if you want to go in and edit an article this is how you do it. So we're uploading images to wikimedia commons. We had our wikipedia in residence we bought them a camera and we got them to go around and take pictures of landmarks within Kansas City and upload that content to wikipedia as well. And then wikipedia or I'm sorry wiki data basics and introduction to wiki data and all of those things. And then we also did editathons right. Meetups is another thing that Miranda did where people with any skill set at all even zero skill sets, coming together to talk about wikipedia, ask questions. No, no expectations really of you so making it a very, very welcoming place. We would do an introductory training for wikipedia we would meet monthly, and it just started to create that community of editors within wikipedia within Kansas City. We also celebrated wikipedia's birthday so every January 15 is wikipedia's birthday it's called wikipedia day. And so this was just a fun day where we played the wiki game which is a. There are lots of different games that you can play within wikipedia but one that is pretty fun for us is where you use wiki links to get from one subject to a seemingly totally unrelated subject. The only reason yeah the way that you can get there is by creating clicking the links within wikipedia to get to different articles and different subjects so that's fun and whoever can get from one article to a different article in the shortest amount of time wins. We also had prizes that we bought from depths of wikipedia. If you are on Twitter or Instagram, follow depths of wikipedia. It's ran by this woman named Annie where we're to she is absolutely hilarious, and she just posts funny stuff that she finds and runs across within wikipedia. We also had a lot of fun with internal opportunities for collaboration so like I said we have an outreach team that has subject specialists. We participated in media literacy week in 2021 where this is linked and you'll see videos on our YouTube channel of all of the programs that we did for every day during media literacy week, and two of those days were focused on wikipedia. We also created an open source zine that you'll see a picture there this open source technology and programming for artists so as an entrepreneur, if you are an artist. It kind of talks you through the different open source softwares that there are that you can use for your own business. And then we also help to support other internal projects like creating a zine library within the Kansas City Public Library, investigating and doing programming on intellectual property is a civil rights issue and community teachings. So, before you hire a wikipedia in residence here's some things that you should know conflict of interest is a thing. So the wikipedia in residence cannot write or edit articles about people that paid them, including the library and the donors so we were not able to ask our wikipedia in residence to do any edits based on the Kansas City Public Library page or the WT Kemper Foundation or anybody in from the Kemper family, just because of that conflict of interest rate. It's also important to know and have a basic knowledge of copyright, because information and images and all of that. We need to either obtain permission to share them or we need to have copyright free things to post within wikipedia and wiki data and Commons. So, making sure that you've got a basic understanding of what you can and cannot do and what the rules are is super helpful. Wikipedia and other glam workers within the community. Having connections and establishing these connections within these communities is super helpful. Our, as I mentioned before Kelly Doyle from the Smithsonian was a mentor for our wikipedia and residence here in Kansas City, Miranda. We also use professional groups, there's Facebook groups, there's chats on telegram. There's the red network. There's lots of ways that you can engage if you look for them and I will tell you the people within this community are very interested in sharing and helping and teaching. They want to see this movement grow and grow and grow. And our conferences that you can go to and the wikipedia foundation can provide scholarships for those things that I mentioned before we, there's annual wikipedia conference there's wiki North America, there's the wiki and library user group that just started I think in 2022 was their first conference and I think they're going to do annual or by annual. And then there's other learning opportunities you can go to edit events that are virtual that are all over the country. You can do art and family art and feminism community hours in there wiki meetups all over the place. When we were measuring the success of our residency, we use something called the wikimedia dashboard, where we could track, you know, from this point in time to this point in time here are other articles that we edited and we want to see how many, you know, how many citations did we add how many wiki data items did we add how many times for these pages view how much content how many, you know what was the word count that we added you can measure all of that and use that as reporting for your success which is great. There are. We also did some surveys so we did PLAs project outcome to find information, and then just sharing the word at outreach events and trying to get people to come and engage was was super helpful. And just in publicity, again, making sure that you are out there and you are sharing this story, we worked with our marketing team to get the story out there, and we did a blog post on our website which is something that we share throughout our library email newsletter. We were able to be on a few radio state radio stations here on case to you are which is our NPR affiliate here in Kansas City. We had an article featured in the pitch was which is another arts and music newspaper here in Kansas City, and then another article on case you are that was written by. I like that that middle one there from the pitch that framing and that we having the tools to edit our own stories. And so, you know, personally, you know, this information that's out there in Wikipedia, yeah, you, you might not like it, it might, it might not be correct and or you might know something that should be in there that he or something. Yeah. That seems to be like I was saying before with the jazz editathon, we had, you know, we had so many people that were coming to this editathon who had no, like, not even email addresses, not used to using the computer, not used to do anything, but they, they were telling their stories and making sure that these things weren't lost and that they were discoverable and shared with other people. That seems to be the most powerful way that we have engaged people within this within this movement. We also Miranda created a zine, hosting a Wikipedia and in residence at a public library, and it outlines all like basically what you need to know if you want to host a Wikipedia and in residence in a public library. And it's just, again, telling our story and hoping that we share our lessons learned and best practices with other people so that it can be replicated. We are still sharing the story. And before we got a Wikipedia and in residence, I was at the glam wiki conference which was in Israel. Again, from a scholarship from the Wikimedia Foundation, I presented at MLA the Missouri Library Association. We have tried a couple of times to get conference submissions for PLA accepted we have not been successful yet, but we will keep trying. And then Wikilib Khan, which was in Dublin, Ireland, which also I received a scholarship to present there, which is fantastic. And then, who would have ever thought that by me taking this nine week course back in 2018 that I would have been able to go to Israel in Ireland because of Wikipedia. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's awesome. So wild. And then we presented at that internet librarian conference most recently and then I'm presenting today you. So I encourage you to be bold. It is, this is like the one thing that you need to take away from this entire presentation I don't care if it's Wikipedia related or not but within the world of librarianship and as an information professional be bold, learn something new. Check things out. Share what you learn with your community. And then I also invite you to join us. The next thing with librarianship that is happening is the one lib one ref campaign. So I knew it was coming up. Yeah. It's starting what in 10 days, 15 days. One one ref is an bi annual campaign where it challenges every librarian and information professional to add one citation to Wikipedia. So one librarian one reference citations needed right. Join the Wikipedia and library is Facebook group. Join a meetup group within Wikipedia just see how you can get involved and invited or just simply check out that content on Wikipedia and libraries better together from OCLC. There is further reading that you can do on the history and context application of Wikipedia. We've got some great resources here. And then we've got additional references and resources linked here for you to review if you would like to review those as well. And that is the end of my slide deck. I am Gail at Casey library.org and I would be absolutely delighted to share any information and answer any questions that you have. So go ahead and just leave that slide up there so we'll have that up here while we are having any questions. Yeah, if anybody does have any questions go ahead and type into the question section of your go to webinar interface. Anything more you want to know about anything you missed anything you want to answer again. Like I said at the beginning I am a huge user of Wikipedia myself. And I know it does sometimes like you said before you went into that training, it can get a bad rap and I unfortunately do still see people saying, you know, don't use Wikipedia, it's not, you can't use it as a resource. Right. You know, how do we know what's in there and everything and and I, I, it just, it creates me it's, it's, yeah, people mind. It's only as good as that work to educate and right. It's only as good as the people that edit it and we can be those people, or we can get other people who are the experts to be those people. And I do understand the question and paste in something at a Wikipedia article and put it into your paper for your school, you know, you're at all. And it's not just. I really appreciate that the beginning side about all the rules that the pillars that I don't think it I didn't know that that I don't think people know that there are rules it is not just a free for all. It makes a big difference to have like this sort of infrastructure and expectations, and because it is open source and collaborative. That means that people do hold each other accountable to those rules. And so each article has chat like a talk page where you can go in and see what people are discussing and you'll see like, sometimes the conversation there if you that is something that I have sometimes you talk about getting caught up and you're going to have a whole of click this link to this link to this article and now you're off something completely different. Looking at that behind the scenes the chat page about that particular page and the conversation sometimes it can get pretty heated and it's very interesting the different experts saying well actually no they didn't do that this is what they did, or actually the real story was this or here's the link to this, the news article that talked about what happened so we need to change this here so it's very looking at that it's just so enlightening. Yeah, and I think you know sometimes I will say bullying on Wikipedia is like in those chat rooms can be a real thing. But at the same time, you know I'm not advocating for bullying but that the discussion like a healthy dialogue between two people in the community really helps you to see that there, there's a lot of people who approach this with a great deal and that they want to see quality information that is published on these platforms. So it's nice. And then there's also, you know, obviously there's going to be bad actors, wherever it is that you go and in the world of misinformation, it's, it's, it's a whole thing, but there are a lot of mechanisms within Wikipedia to help combat that so like there are certain pages for example that are just locked down because people will constantly go in, like for Donald Trump's Wikipedia page, you can't just go in and edit his Wikipedia page willy-nilly right there are checks in place to make sure that people wouldn't put bad information out there. There are also things called bots that will go through and just automatically kind of troll, and I shouldn't say troll like it's not an internet troll, but they will look at automated, they will automate automatically look at Wikipedia pages, and you can just like spell check corrections, or they will add where citations are needed, or they will do like small corrections, just automatically. And those, those are a really helpful tool and those resources, those bots are monitored by like there's a large group of Wikipedia administrators that people behind it, yeah. Yeah, there are people behind it that spend a lot of time and a lot of, you know, a lot of good information to start to keep Wikipedia. Good thing. Yeah, I think those citations are the key to talking to people about how Wikipedia is not just chaos and bad information and just whatever crazy things people want to put out there. All those citations in there and everything has a link go to the bottom if you want to know well is this really true is this a thing. Go to the bottom any Wikipedia article. There are the links to the actual stories the news reports, the magazine articles, the whatever that is the backup, the proof of what is being written in the article. So, you know, there's, it is, you can't just put whatever you want in there. That's why we call people that Wikipedia is actually a really terrific way to start your research. Exactly. Yes, go there and figure out okay here's all the citations these are all the places that I need to go to. You need to find your primary resources for when you actually write your paper. For school or college or whatever, and those are the bottom the articles but it is the place to start just like when you were in high school in elementary school or high school you had a writer paper. What you do you went to the encyclopedia sitting on the shelf, and you told, don't rewrite that. But that just gets you the general idea of whatever the topic is then go and find the primary sources and before Wikipedia that was painful. I did it. So it tells me that this is what an armadillo actually does. I got to go find that. Now you can just click and find it. So I think yeah. And that the one live one ref that's coming up and these is perfect timing and I didn't even think about that when we scheduled this, that I think that we as librarians should be doing and that is one. We had done a session session about Wikipedia before and we did do a particular show about one live one ref was actually back in 2017, but it's all still valid because it's still going on. And I'm going to include links to that too and it's done twice a year in January and May. Now you can do it at any time you want to of course if you sign up and just become an editor but they kind of do these general push of librarians you are the experts on the you know the citations you know where these resources are that can back up. And I'm sure everyone's seen articles in Wikipedia that says citation needed. Yep. That's what this is about somebody said hey this is the this is what happened this is the thing. But I don't know the citation I just know that that and so they need something that backs that up so those are the things you go in and you add to it and fix it and and make it better yeah. So questions we have here. So let's know a little more about the cost of this you said you got funding from a private donor and in the library did have to do theirs was. So this is a year. So it is also really that you did, you could decide between one two or three years. So this was just a one year. Yeah, we ended up we were negotiating with our funder the WT Kemper Foundation and they agreed to pay $50,000 for this one year. So we had we established the salary as $50,000 and posted that salary. And then on top of that the library agreed that we out of our budget would cover the benefits and the making sure that Miranda had a laptop. So we knew that we wanted to send them to conferences and so we, we did pay for the conference travel for Miranda and so on and so forth so there is, you know obviously anytime there's a project like this there's going to be internal cost and overhead like, you know, managing the, the grant that we got and doing the grant reporting that took some time as well so yeah but we're, we're really excited about it and the fact that it, you know it was the first one in the country. So that's so cool and exciting. And you know, at going back like we, we did learn a lot then you know I, I know that there are different things, there are things that we would have done differently but I think in order to get it started and begin the movement here in Kansas City, I'm really proud of all did. Yeah, you should be as you should be. Yeah. Have any other public libraries done this now. Within the United States, I have not heard of any yet. I have had a few different libraries from Canada contact me about how we did it because they are wanting to establish Wikipedia and some residents. But I have not heard of others within the United States that have done it yet. So it was just then you said 2021 right was when, yeah, yeah, so we're only talking this one been like here. Yeah, and everything else is just, yeah, so yeah, I fully anticipate that it will be more commonplace. There are there are Wikipedia and some residents and other glam institutions within the country. So, library, I'm sorry, within universities, academic libraries, museums, special libraries have Wikipedia and some residents so yeah. And I know I think when I was looking at this from our session page for today's show. Yes, I link to the Wikipedia and residents site on Wikipedia and I believe there's a list there you can look and see. Yeah, list of Wikipedia's residents so you can see where they are. Yeah, that's looking at that. So if you're curious about someplace has it or you want to see who has done it. And if there's someone near you maybe that you want to visit them. Yeah. So, so, so Miranda was there just for one year. So, someone wants to know, are you thinking of doing this again, having another, you know, some places have someone so and so in residence and there's a new person that comes in every year and every time there's always someone but it's a new resident. Is this something that you would consider doing again. You know, honestly, I would love to. And since that one thing that is important about knowing with doing this work is you really need to have an internal champion right somebody who is passionate about it that wants to move it forward. My job since I started with the Wikipedia and residents into now I have a different job within the library and so it doesn't really make a lot of sense for me to lead that initiative. Now, however, it is something like media literacy and information literacy is something that is going to be that has been and continues to grow as something that's critically important that we teach within our communities. And I truly believe that having a Wikipedia and residents is a great way to do that and sort of embed it in the work in a sort of kind of a clever way. So I would really like to see us continue this work. I think we need to work on alternate funding mechanisms. I think honestly it would be really lovely if we could just operationalize that cost and not have to look to outside funding for it but I know that's going to be heavy lift. But I think, you know, whenever you have things that are operationalized like that instead of relying on outside funding you have more control and you have more flexibility to do and be responsive to whatever it is that you need within the community so that's something that I would like to do differently in the future I think. Sure. And if you want to answer someone to do it to fund it just the first time is a good way to get your feet wet and figure it out. And then you know for okay now if we want to make this a permanent position on our staff, or in our organization. Now we figured all that all the, all the details out about that. Yeah. Yeah, so we have subject specialists, as I said, within the library and we are, you know, if, if we had a good million dollars and could do whatever we wanted. I would love to see us create that information literacy specialist that does this sort of programming with a whole bunch, you know, there's there's so many other things that you can do with information literacy but using what a media as a tool to teach that as well would be a, yeah, yeah, it would be a wonderful ingredient in that entire entire specialty. Yeah, absolutely. All right, that's all the questions that I see that I've seen right now does anybody we still have about five minutes left if anyone wants to get any last minute desperate questions in right now to ask of Kim, get them typed in there. There is her email address there that you are welcome to reach out to her there as well afterwards. And as I said these slides will be available afterwards. They should be by the end of the day tomorrow with our recording. So you'll have access to it there as well. While I'm waiting to see if anyone else has any questions. I'm going to pull presenter control back over to my screen so that I can show you some of the resources. Got here where we got there. There we go. Now it's all right. So, as I said this is the session page for the show. And I do have like I said the link to the Wikipedia and residents page which I opened up over here so you can see a lot more about it there. List of other places that you have them get started how to get into this if you do want to do this at your library or your organization. I mentioned that we did a previous session. We talked about the one live one ref initiative. So here is our end compass live website. If you use your search engine of choice and type in and compass live so far we are the only thing on the internet called that no one else is allowed to use our name. We've been good with that since we started, and he will come up with our main page here and our archive page. These are our coming shows but right here at the bottom is a link to our archives. So we're going to go to the top here today show as I meant we'll be there as I said by the end of the day tomorrow as long as go to webinar and YouTube cooperate with me. We'll have a link to the recordings on the library Commission's YouTube channel link to Kim's slides. And then what I think I'll also do is I'll link over to some of the Wikipedia, one that we did before. So I'm going to show you here, you can search archives here. We have our full show archives or just most recent 12 months if you just want to make sure just something current. And that is because this is our full show archives, and I'm not going to scroll the way down if you notice this is a giant list and compass live premiered in January 2009. So we are in our 15th year. Oh my gosh, of the show and all of our show archives are here. They're all out on our YouTube channel. So just pay attention if you do watch any of our archive shows at the, you'll pay attention to the original broadcast date it's on every entry. Some of the shows will be great and stand the test of time and some good useful information. Some things become old and outdated resources may have changed drastically links might not work anymore. Things might no longer exist anymore. People might not work at the same library they worked at when they presented for us. So I just do pay attention if you are watching any of our previous shows. I'll show you here. I'm going to search for Wikipedia in our show archives to bring up that one. We did show way way back in 2013 but the one about the one live button ref was just in 2017. And there's a link to recording link to the one live one ref website which I've opened up over here as well. I said it's starting up again May 15 so sign up and do it if you're a librarian ads, you know, fix some citations. And there are some others handout they gave they provided the recordings here too, but that can help you get started with doing how to get started links to everything that if you want to do that at your library with your library staff. I recommend it doing so. Hi. And I did over here follow I looked up depths of Wikipedia I had to of course on Twitter. It looks like shows is like the internet depths, things that are just internet in general. There's the first one most recent one I love it's talking about what you're talking about uploading photos to Wikimedia. Yep. Right. So I don't see any other questions that's fine you all asked what you wanted to before perfect. Some thank yous coming in from everyone says great information hopefully we'll get more libraries doing this. Yeah, thank you so much I appreciate it and please don't hesitate to reach out. I'm happy to happy to have one on ones and do zooms or. I don't know maybe we need to come on maybe I need to come to Nebraska. We'll do we'll we'll work on something maybe yeah. So that'll wrap it for the show thank you everybody for being here thank you so much Kim I'm glad you're able to do this. It's my pleasure. Is awesome yeah. As I said we do have a recording we do have a Facebook page, which I've got open over here. So if you do like to use Facebook, give us a like over there we post reminders about the show here's reminders along today show. And then here is the announcement about related to computers and libraries was our last week's show when the recording is available. So, when today's recording is done we will post it up on our Facebook page, and I'll push out on to our Twitter as well. So look there for when it's announced everyone who attended today show and registered today show will also get an email from me letting you know when it's ready. So let's use the hashtag little abbreviation and come live for anything about encompass live so if you want to look for that and see what we've done. Yeah. So as I said that's it for today. And I've got our upcoming shows here for the next couple of months all filled in. Next week, I will be your presenter. We are talking about the upcoming 2023 public library accreditation process. So if you are in Nebraska lot if you are in Nebraska public library and you're interested in becoming accredited, or if you're up for renewal for your accreditation this year. Sign up for next week's show it'll be a little intro the process starts July 1. So this is a getting started session about that we also have later in the month for fuller workshops this is like a quickie overview. For. So I've got three for three hour workshop scheduled later in May, with a much more in depth so you can sign up for one of those as well they're four different workshops but they are the same thing being presented each time just at different times and dates so that everyone has a chance to find something that works for them. There will be recording of that right later as well for anyone who can't attend the in person ones. So if you are looking to become accredited. Sign up for next week's show and you'll have me here talking to you about it. And do sign up for any of our other upcoming shows so thank you everybody. Thanks, Kim. I think we are good for today, hopefully we'll see you all on a future episode of income this live. Thank you so much. Bye bye.