 No, no, she's keeping her head out. I was like you better You want to throw the show notes back up there so I can She has she has protested in other she was in the 2009 protests that were huge. She was in those One's Obama ignored Yeah, she was in that was only in Tehran, but that was a big one this one No, no, that was she lived in Iran at the time so she's been on the street. She's done been there. She said I was protesting for nine It's it was brown. Oh speaking of which I need Which one which platform I'm not great with math Hey guys, I'm gonna play you know we're live. Okay, we're actually live now everyone. Oh, great. So no swearing Fuck no I always love going home and watching all my like Blunders and and things that I say before the show because I'll come home Yeah, it's cool. I'll come home and sit down and watch the show immediately after I get home You know just to see how it looked and I'll watch the first ten minutes before we go And I'm like, oh, I said that's where all this shit happens. No, I said that too Remember my buddy used to have satellite back in the day and you get the news feed before broke out went on You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, this KU band or whatever Yeah, I'm pulling the really good stuff. It was it was great. You hear all the off Yeah, are you gonna be able to hear both of them? Oh, yeah, okay? Yes Totally check totally five one two three three two It's just like an animation studio way up in there The crossley dashboard And that's the blue one. Oh, yeah, I mean, that's the color that they would make one of those Yeah, and then but the the dial was totally corroded really. Yeah Repainted Yeah that that ever sent down there obviously I repainted Yes, I got tired of Brown brake light. Yeah, so I'm like, well, what can I do with the rest of these guys? But what's really fun is the the RCA the big boy. Yeah, that's not that's a Zena big Zenith and the The one above it, which is a Gillifam, which is actually was built in Los Angeles. They license with RCA It was that was it was in a cabinet. Yeah, I yanked it out The cabinet is now the vanity in one of our bathrooms Go figure, but I can play them in stereo And 70 year old I mean, I can I can ask it to play That's right We were candy saying at the smallest most bulbous TV in the most giant They were crazy back then yeah, it was furniture back then it wasn't just an audio component I kind of lived that a little bit in the 90s because we used to do the gaming parties Land parties before, you know flat screens. So we were carrying Like this like carrying them in like and they really 40-50 pounds, you know Stick them down. Yeah, it was a pain in the neck man That's when gamers were tough. There was a time man Now they're all orange-fingered cheeto eating weasels. I was gonna say it's another funny thing about Iran about knocking off brands There's a brand of chips there like Pringles. It's called. They're called cheetos Cheetos It's just a brand cheetos. I like it when the Simpsons goes to the weird mall. It's like it's a genuine Sam. Yo Everything is just so me. It's a so me. What's a so me? Well, there's Kobe. That's one of my favorite brands of all time Can't find dormers Or maybe in Glendale single Dorb, maybe in Glendale you can find them You get your daughter bros and get out Fucking guy fucking guy He takes all the dogs Sponsored by It was like one videotape. It is the most like bizarre Animation with some of the best music, but they didn't get picked up like South Park who fit exactly Miranda did a thing on What was that that the legend of Sleeping Beauty? No, the Yes, no the the Russian thing that the Russian. Oh, there's a cartoon called buba and it's like it's a Russian cartoon Yeah, she did a review of it on YouTube because this lady was saying it was possessing her chill children Is making my child into a monster He's like going on top of the fridge and like I took it away from him for like a day And he's like the best child in the world This is a little post-Soviet era, but you still like it because it's awful No, I also did a review on the legend of Sleeping Beauty, which is a North Korean cartoon distributed by Italy Dragon dragon thing yeah, basically like the Avengers like comes in and there's like a witch Let's see what sticks Was Sounds racist Why does it have to be a white line Interesting boy Thank you for having the purple lion Press photos okay, you're gonna have to go sit with mom I love that we're like trapped in a tsunami back here He can fly Oh to have an audience again really it's been a couple of years feels like we've been in a vacuum for so long Here's your questions. These are soft balls We're gonna ask you like how's your ribs? How to ribs Once we break this news I was actually gonna get some spare ribs Yeah, I well I didn't have a whole Rocko in two days What to get more Dorby's Probably can find a lot of stuff You probably love Dorby's like the like the cartoon. Oh, yeah, the Christian one that was the ripoff of Veggie tails. Yeah The animations it's ferocious, but the music is great Should I raise this camera up a little bit more so I wouldn't mess with it now unless it's easy Well, it's just a matter of just twisting it Jacob crank that camera as hot not just the crank at the base at the bottom No, he can he can he can angle it up. Well, let's raise it. Yeah, it's not looking up our noses Yeah, that's what I want to say our noses. I mean mine It goes up a little bit more. Oh earthquake Oh, it's got a little button in the back that keeps it for me. Yeah, there you go Why do we do that that's five seconds to air Oh, yeah, look at that. That's a much better shot Who's chest is that? Thank you. I'm impressive one. That's what it is. It's an impressive chest. Impressive chest. You have that on my friend It is a little delay, this is the 30 second I'm leaving it on the live Now you won't be confused. No, it's it. No, it's right. That's live now. Yeah, it's the the YouTube and Facebook I was checking the YouTube feed to make sure. Okay. What are we doing on time? Are we actually on air? I think Sue wants us to start It's exactly five o'clock thumbs up from sir music No, we won't hear it five four three two. Here's our camera over one Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop and tonight. We got a crowd. Well I've never seen this many people in here for like four or five years Scott Miranda Park and are with us. Say hello. Hi guys and George is here way over there What how are you over there? It's all into one set. I know it's you know, what's ridiculous? It's a huge Quonset hut. It goes back for 400 yards, but they make a sit in this tiny little area We're so we can get behind the way. Yeah, if you've got some questions for Scott Miranda We're gonna talk about all sorts of stuff So yeah, I know there's going to be a huge crowd out there watching tonight So throw your stuff throw your questions in the chat room. I know Jeff Holman is back there somewhere I hope writing down everything and we'll get to those but we got lots to talk about including Something about a project that Miranda's working on with lots of swag sneak preview. Yeah That's true. We have we have the debut of a clip from the comic casino It's only 40 seconds didn't want to give much away, but it sort of introduces you to a good chunk of the cast yeah, and You know, it's it's a big thing because she's been working on it for I probably from inception about two years great And during an 11 minute animatic there's several hundred hours worth of drawings So it's exciting. We know what that's like. 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Maybe four years ago We were more tucked over there. I think yeah, we were back in this This is before Back in the day when you could cough on anyone and spit anywhere you like. Yes. Well, let me introduce our guests We've got Scott Park and who we've had on before Improv impresario actor voice actor bon vie bon Yeah, that was that wasn't in the list Cyclist cycle a cyclist. Yes cyclist surfer rib patient. I was going to ask that was my first question How are your ribs? Well, I really my only experience with ribs was in Tony Roma's for years and years until I snapped two of them. They said Eight weeks to six to eight weeks and it's it's eight weeks So we're eight weeks in and they don't click as much when I move That's nice still not back in the water and I get winded going upstairs. I've found out a lot about myself The last eight weeks Immobile and isolation those are not good things. I'm not good at either of those So I'm glad to be back back at it. I'm training this week because we have an a-wow a walk on water Where we do surf therapy for kids on the spectrum I'm doing a bunch of training to try and get my wind up so I can work water safety for that So we'll see ribs are okay Great. Yeah, now you were an Ireland wall. This was going on too. What was it like? Or Switzerland, which I know it was one of the lands one of those like switcher. How many figures am I holding up? Yeah, it's the weirdest way to have a stroke right when the show starts I get it out of the way early. Uh, Switzerland was phenomenal. It's now It's now was and they're It was with the GMC Euro retreat. So it was top shelf everything open bar phenomenal room Reigned like a bitch every day, but it was nice because we don't see rain all the Californian people that it's got brick and I like Hey, look, it's raining. It's it's raining. Hey, my kid gets excited when it rains. Yeah But it was stunning and such such a great environment small classes and just You know no net gut improv and people it was just a great group of people. Yeah, I you know Trish Trish Ryan has been my Esposito when I met her but Trish Ryan has been my agent at DPN for 13 years 14 years I've been with DPN for 21 years and I you know, I used to see her I'd see her for 10 minutes of time a couple times a week when I would go in and the before times But I've never got to hang out with her and I was there with her and her husband all week And it was just a blast her husband is a scream and we went to we went to oh gosh I'm never gonna remember the town but we can't pronounce them anyway. Yeah, we took a we took a boat And it was just the water's ice blue. It's like it looks like a central casting postcard from Switzerland Yeah, Switzerland sort of looks like Disneyland. It really does everything's the Matterhorn. Yeah, I've been there. It's been a bit about 50 years But yeah, but it's still mountains. Yeah You know, what's interesting is that you can you go through security. Yeah, and then in the airport There's a giant Swiss Army knife store Security and the plane so I I was just I was amazed at that you could buy whatever You know, I guess you couldn't hold up a plane with an ivory toothpick and scissors But you know, it seemed odd that you could buy knives in the airport. Probably been tried. I guess I guess yes so anyway, why don't you introduce your daughter and All right This person has been like a daughter to me I've known her for almost all of her life. There was a couple years there where we didn't talk No, I'm zero to one. I missed that. Yeah, it seems like your body language would say different Miranda is a voiceover artist and singer and a musician and an animator and Let's bring her out. She's my daughter. She's 22 No Miranda moved out. She was gonna move out just before the pandemic and then it was like Let's go set her an apartment by herself for a couple years and that didn't seem like a good idea So they stayed with me for a while and then she moved out maybe two years ago Almost I mean nearly to it'll be two years and I'm sure you have a little advent calendar No, I still have that other girl. Yeah, but so she's over there with a couple of other artists and Just kicking ass. Yeah. Yeah, so Miranda I've had the chance to watch you in action in the studio. I think it was over at over at sound box LA I was there one afternoon and you were there recording some stuff and it was very very impressive watching you work there But tell me a little bit about what you've learned from your old man here Figured that would be the answer I'm interested in this answer The good stuff say the good stuff not the horrible stuff not the drink it by yourself in the fetal position, right? No, I learned a lot I feel like in in our household Comedy was very much at a premium So I you know you have to be funny and I feel like that's how it is in our side of the family You kind of have to just try and be funny and you know, I make people laugh and Do silly voices and I started doing voiceover when I was very little and Five five. Yeah, you booked commercials when you were five. Yeah, which was very cool It was very cool because I was like, oh my god I get to read out loud in a funny voice. Hell. Yeah, sign me up, right? And then I didn't do it for a really long time and then but but all those years of Learning with my dad and watching him teach and watching him do his job Like I would you know, sometimes come in with him to the studio and hang out with, you know Voice over pals, but I would also watch him in the studio doing his thing So I would kind of learn by absorption and just kind of like, you know, listen to him do accents and And characters all those years and then when I was 16, I started it up again And so because you were on your own pretty much Yeah, at that point. Yeah, I'm the other party didn't want her to do voiceover So she she was not allowed to do voiceover for years and then at 16 Dpn was like welcome back and yeah, I started sending her out a lot What do you think we've been working on lately? lately, I've had some Taco Bell commercials One the sovis last year for a Taco Bell. Taco Bell loves you or for Jack in the box. Sorry fast food Sorry, the nice folks from Jack in the box Fast food's your thing. I guess so I mean you do she does the thing that I do I whenever I get it get Something or I'm close to getting something. I'll go buy that product I bought Taco Bell for me and my two roommates like after I after I got the first one And then I got like two more in both times I bought Taco Bell because I mean obviously they like me well enough and it's good luck paying it forward somehow to a Corporation which probably probably we should go ahead and give you guys your gift bags Oh, it's a shot. It's a comic casino shot glass and a handy packet of tide These are collectors. Oh, thank you. You can take that tide with you if you're let's say you're traveling Yeah, something in the sink. That's great, which we will be doing Yeah, didn't know dear audience if you couldn't hear him screaming from the rooftops every day He is in a tide commercial and it's incredible. Oh, we haven't seen it Smears something all over Tide gave you as much money as they gave me you'd have little packets of it handing them out You'd have underwear that's You'd have like a huge like chest tattoo Sworn to tide You know I'm a commercial actor so people are like sell out I'm like if they think Scott Park and commercial actors gonna sell out you say how fast can he sell out and for how much it's That's that's the point. It's what we do for a lovely candy Milo and I are that's still running Think the Lord think Jennifer my agent you see it all the time. It's do you still okay? No, still more food and shelter for a while. Yeah, well when we're not watching like, you know YouTube videos. Yes. Yeah, and and and all the streaming stuff. It's like well network TV. Oh, well, we know we're gonna see Scott What are you watching lately your TV? Have I been watching been watching lost? Yep House of Dragon I've been watching that yeah House of Dragon for sure He loves he loves law Smiling Francis tell them about smiling friends. You have to find that Smiling friends on HBO Max. This is not a plug. I'm not sponsored by HBO Max At all Now smiling friends hilarious animated show and it's super great all the episodes are 10 minutes and I think there's 10 of them They're so good And there's a new show by Michael Qsack who's the co-creator He's coming out with a new show called koala man that I'm also really excited for and the female lead is Shiv from succession. They got Hugh Jackman. They got everything I Feel like I'm plugging this so hard, but it's On your Instagram you you support stuff and you try hard to get stuff that people haven't seen you try and get them to see it I mean my audience save all watch smiling No that camera there That's a little close you want to plug it back in Can you unplug it plug it back in see what happened? Oh, yeah, we lost our hosts It'll come back eventually I'll try to read it or something like that. Jake. I'll figure it out. Anyway, think about which was All these different weird things that we do and in the voiceover business Right now Miranda you're working on an animation project Which which if anybody is like on Facebook or something Hey guys, we lost audio to Anyone in the studio we lost audio Sorry, just a second. We've lost audio because when I removed the camera. You got me now Sue Got back. Okay. Sorry. That was my mistake Take it back. Are we all right? Last question the last question last topic. It's about we were talking about it's in animatic form right now So what we did was we partnered with swampy marsh who creator of Phineas and Ferb and and Pete the cat and all things bitchin And we were gonna the object was to have hire them to do our animatic and then Miranda could sit on Bernie Bernie's last name Bernie Peterson Bernie Peterson phenomenal Head of visual arts there at surfer jack and she was gonna sit on his shoulder and watch so she could learn how to storyboard and do an animatic But swampy sort of threw a wrench in there by hiring Miranda Before we even contracted him to do them to do the animatic So Miranda got to sit with Bernie for a couple months had her own office and a big way come and worked on sections of the animatic The old timey section and a couple other things Got work got to work on her own animatic at a big old animation studio So it was pretty fantastic. It was very cool. And uh, and my roommate Lauren was there too And they helped me a lot with backgrounds and and then Bernie did like kind of a very a very like rough version of the animatic Like a single line Sort of a thing, right? Yeah, I mean Well, it was it was very it was rough But it was a lot of like composition and staging and like oh this is where this could go because He storyboarded on finished a verb and hundreds of other things and no, he's he's freaking amazing. Um, and So what he did was he yeah, you did like the rough animatic. So and then I uh, I went in and I drew backgrounds and characters Well, she said she said dad I want all of it to be my work and I have different ideas and I have stuff I want to add and if I change the angle of this it's going to be funnier But I have to redraw all of these so she basically went over and used Bernie's template for the animatic and redrew the entire thing adding characters backgrounds different points of view and Just it's it's just phenomenal when you see it just I've I've been around it for Over a year now this part of it and it still just floors me what you did dude. It's just crushing So yeah, so you're we're going to show it in just a second. Tell us a little bit about we're going to show 40 seconds of it But tell us a little bit about what what the plot is And and and who the characters are and stuff um, so essentially This the main character harper is a defense attorney And she grew up in a kind of space version of las vegas And it's extremely long. So imagine the strip, but like 100 miles around the center of like a distant moon And so essentially it's it's like um kind of blade runner aesthetic plus jetsons Very mid-century modern, but what like what fifties vegas would look like a hundred years in the future 200 years and she comes back because she thinks that her dad I don't want you to give away any more of the plot. I think you should just say it's a father daughter story It's a father daughter story And there you go. There's lots of aliens and creatures and robots and there's an evil competition who's trying to take the casino and And uh, she does not want to be back at this She got off the loop as quickly as possible The loop is 100 miles around a shitty moon at the edge of the galaxy 200 years in the future Oh, okay. The strip. It's the loop. Yeah And the old man who built it loved old rat-packed vegas and when vegas was super bitchin and And um, it's sort of mid-century modern. She loves that style. So we so you've had some influence over all of this A little bit just a little bit aesthetically. It's all her Great. Well, why don't we take a look at it? This is her meeting and her found family when I was a kid my dad took us to up to tahoe to see uh glen Campbell and uh At the door was a giant boxer who I'd seen fight like a month earlier Just, you know on a Wild world of sports was jerry quarry. Oh, yeah, and he was shaking hands and I said why Why is that guy out there? And he said, oh Well, once they're, you know, maybe past their prime and they've made money for the casino The casino will bring them on and give them a job Right. So all of these people that sort of raised harper in our story The main character are found family. So this is her. They're all casino staff. Yeah, they're all casino staff now So this is her re-meeting them. They basically raised her because the old man me wasn't present Big stretch. Hi. So so why don't we why don't we run that and uh, we'll come back and discuss a little bit more Also, no, uh, no music and no sound design so far. This is right So we're this is this is just art and voiceover. We're doing sound design with, uh, tim west at, uh Rebel rebel rebel alliance and over at surfer jack and then your friend adam government. We'll we'll talk about that in a second Okay, he's doing the music All right, let's take a look at My mom passed away when I was really small and my dad was never around even when he was around he wasn't But it doesn't mean I didn't have a family Pardon me, but could one of you gentlemen tell me what time the noon buffet is? Hey, hey guys, look at the size of you. Who's this classy dame and what happened to our little girl We missed you so much. I'll give you 20 to 1 veil cries. Well, I will take those odds because I am not going I'm not good Yeah, easy money So there you go. All right. So that was uh Miranda was I was asked to stop being married when Miranda was three And I had was not great at being a single dad didn't have a lot of daycare So I took Miranda with me at all times So she would go into the studio and in the studio would be people like mendy sterling and lorraine newman and billy west And gary anthony williams and mary slamarge. Will you say somebody we didn't recognize? I know I know I'll get to I'll get to them But uh, so they when I would go into the booth they would watch moranda. So Miranda they've sort of watched her trajectory with terra strong and um de bradley baker from a different agency, but they've sort of watched her grow up and rooted for her and um Tara showed butch hartman from fairly odd parents her stuff when she was 11 And everybody's sort of supported this kid. So when she I'm sorry. You're not a kid anymore. I'm sorry this artist She's your kid. I know but still I gotta I gotta get over that someday. I will by the time I'm 80 So, uh Miranda drew all of these characters with those actors in mind. It's a weird way to go at it That's a weird way that just a father and daughter are doing it. We're not a studio. We're just a small little entity But we asked all of them and said this is your character that she drew for you and they all said Absolutely. How else can I help? Please? Let me do it. So we have this amazing a list of cast members. So you just saw gary anthony williams morise and billy west as wings deep bradley baker as uh Help me come on sleeper. Thank you jump in anywhere here You don't just have to say there Okay, talking away. That's me. Yeah, I'll just keep talking then So uh, and you get to meet all those five and also, uh, gray griffin is just phenomenal in this She plays a couple different characters. She's sieb her, uh, nanny bot and friend Uh, and tear strong is just a symphony. I've looked at I've looked at I know something's funny when I've seen it 40 times and and you're going over it still makes me laugh And then when you see it together with the art For that character, I said let let's go for something like a cross between Sharon stone and casino and something else So miranda crossed her with the angler fish So that's what that character the evil and mazy is that and when you see it, you're going to be like Yeah, that is like a Sharon stone from casino angler fish And it's it's just so exciting. It's at the point now. It's just so you guys know We haven't sold it. I was going to say what does it take to sell something? You're like I thought you sold it and I'm like Dan and do I seem like the guy that if I became a millionaire and had a chance to give all my friends jobs? I wouldn't be like stopping people on the street going. Did you know we sold the show? So at this point Once we do sound design and score then we take it out to apple tv plus because of miranda We have somebody there to pitch to uh, justin at, um What green portal? Yeah, why are you giving me this side eye? I'm kidding is I just want like this I'm wait. I'm waiting. Oh, okay. She's waiting for a moment. Go ahead Um, so I mean I've never I haven't I've I've done a couple of little pitches here and there before but never to you know, a large studio and Never your own thing. That's never my own thing either. Um But you know, I To answer your question what it takes to to pitch something like this, you know I uh, I I can't tell you the best answer because I've never really really done it before But uh, I will say that I I do think I've watched a lot of pitches And I've seen a lot of pitch bibles and I think what it takes is a lot of tenacity Um, a lot of dedication a great product and luck So I think yeah, yeah, not necessarily in that order not necessarily in that order You know, there are a lot of things that are a lot luckier than others Uh, not going to say the product is bad but uh, there are some there are some things that Don't sometimes do not deserve a spot on television and then there they are and then there they are For nine seasons, right and they had the luck So, you know, it's just going to be a really difficult process and very scary. Um, especially You know, because I'm 22 I mean, yes, I'm a young woman whatever that's you know, that's a thing that I am But But it's yeah, I'm young. I'm green, you know, it's uh, and that's our strength But also possibly I don't know. It's it's my first thing, you know, I'm a little nervous and like that might you know If there's pros and cons to to every situation and it's a pro that I'm young and it's a con that I'm young because I'm like If I don't do this, you know, like what is my next thing gonna be? Oh my god, you know Yeah, but that here's the thing This started out as a way to to build a resume for her So she has storyboarding all the character design all the backgrounds. She helped write it She sang and helped write the theme song and she voices the main character So it's it's a fantastic resume But the thing is my buddy Ed Jaeger who wrote gary unmarried showed for cbs. That was about my life He was on roseanne. He's had a lovely television career He was our our head writer and he put together all these disparate elements and with swampy's ideas And bill daily and and meg ryan the writer We we built a nice script and it's a good story. It's an a-list cast It's phenomenal art and we're having top shelf studio people and music people So we have we're doing all that we can do and at that point Miranda's gonna pitch it. It's not gonna be the old guys in the room. They're not interested in us oddly They don't think we died 10 years ago, right? So it's gonna be Miranda's pitch And we're the show bible is almost done That's like where it will head in season two and episode ideas and a little backstory So you need a show bible you need a place to take it. You need people to champion it Right. We need a An ep that likes it and wants to take it around with us We're taking support from everywhere possible and if we since we are voice actors If this gets through the net everybody's like I I got a voice. I I'll do it I'm like, which one of our casts you want to get rid of you want to get rid of billy wester You want to get rid of Maurice if help us sell this and everybody gets to audition every we are We are committed to trying to get ancillary characters in every episode that we do and everyone will get up to bat I don't know if it's going to be in our control to say Yes, we want that guy. We want, you know, we want tim freelander is the evil uh casino owner Tim can never be evil. I disagree. I disagree. He's wonderfully evil. You just never see it You pay in a scale you get evil So but everybody's been so supportive, you know, we we bought about 15 grand worth of merch and we sold about 15 grand worth Of merch so t-shirts and stuff is out there So many people have shot glasses And necklaces We've got so many so the first time we started sending out shot glasses. We uh smile The first time we started sending out shot glasses We didn't we sent them in a little padded thing and a couple people were like Oh, a couple of these broke and we're like, that's the comic casino shards of glass package You're welcome That's a collector's item. So we we learned our way. Jen Henry was our uh our our swag hag our mistress of merch And helped us so much finding posters and Different things that's her name. I tried to call her mistress of merch and she goes no I wanted a swag I'm a swag hag So much support from the voiceover community and the showrunner community A lot of people follow Miranda art art folks follow her on instagram at at park and art So she's been able to open doors and get us meetings. That's what we need. We need places to take it, right? We have apple tv plus. We have a green portal We have netflix We're looking for the nice folks at hulu and karting network and disney plus But we've got you know, we'll take help from any direction because we're just a Just a couple of yahoos is the tone of the show. So I've noticed there's like a kind of a wave Of like extremely over-the-edge edgy animated shows lately I wouldn't say this is not pushing that envelope which I think is smart I I find those over-the-edge edgy shows like can you give me an example? They tire you out really quick Yes, do you have an example? No, I'm not gonna throw anybody into the front desk He just randomly hates some things that we're not gonna talk about. Do you know how many of my clients are on those shows? That's true. That's true Yes, this I would say I would say Arrested Development meets Blade Runner is a good place to be with a Jetsons aesthetic Interesting if I'm not super dark or super blue. No, it is definitely there is cousin How many severed heads with squirting blood is there? I mean well, not in the pilot not in the pilot Not in the pilot. I mean, I'm not making a joke on that. No, no, I'm measuring this. There is no severed heads I will say no. I mean like there is you know, there is a tone that I want to set But you know, if we end up going there if we end up, you know being kind of edgy and violent like more crime drama You know, like if that's where we go, that's where we go as long as it's consistent and as long as it's good Right. You know, I think she's a real tone Nazi. She's like really like if it goes off tone Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, she's really sharp with that There's a lot of movies and shows that I see where the tone kind of changes over the seasons And that's where it like loses me sometimes like and I'm like, I why did I like that? She goes well the tone doesn't matter You gotta like establish a certain tone So if it is like that, you know, if the first episode Isn't you know, what the animatic is if it's a little bit more edgy and if it's a little bit more this and that I've seen lots of pilot episodes that are completely different from the pilots that aired on tv For example over the garden walls steven universe rick and morty, etc, etc So like the the original pilot episodes aren't exactly what ended up on tv So with that being said, you know, if we end up being more edgy or violent or, you know, whatever or even It'll be funny. It'll be funny for sure But you know, like it depends on what kind of style of humor If we're going to go a little bit more edgy towards that if it's going to be more crime drama, you know Yeah, if they listen if they if they buy it outright And they say we want to do it this way and they we're going to give you two million dollars We're going to say You put that money in the car Yeah, and then they got a little creative input at that. Yeah, they might buy it outright You know, and they might and if that happens, I'm not going to say No, you're not going to give you're not going to give my daughter a couple million dollars to build the next thing You know, it's always if this thing sells We're going to do we're going to be happy with whatever it sells building blocks Right. It's building by going to be on to the next thing. Hey, why don't we take a little break and sell some stuff? Not by angry orchard. 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Absolutely Scott, you know one of the things that we talk about whenever you're on is the importance of doing improv Especially on auditions, you know, and I've worked with you and you're like, hey, you can do it this way That's that was a perfect sound like me talking. I know Hey do it this way That's going on the shirts which which made me want to know try it again Yeah, I've always had problems with improv for maybe because I just don't like to listen How's that? Yes, listening is the most important part. Yeah, so how how do you use improv? On your auditions because I mean some people say well, it's not written in stone You can well, I mean, how and when when is it okay? When is it appropriate? That's really that's really the question How when and how much if it doesn't say if it says Listen improvisers welcome comedians bring it. We paid half a million and we don't know what the hell we want So please write this for us If it says that you you've got a little more freedom to improvise and you're probably going to put something on the end of that Mary linds thinks you should put it on the front I believe that too, but more so I want to get them listening and enjoying what I'm doing and then lay out something funny It's to me the more I teach this class the more I realize it's an acting class It's it's really just acting. They are all characters Doesn't matter if it's right now. You get five of those for just eight dollars It's still a character because I don't freaking talk like that. They're they're pointing Get an air conditioner. There's a there's a fire in the studio. We'll be fine. Don't you worry about it Just sort of slow it down So so when you're when you're in that situation you have a little more carte blanche And you can improvise if it doesn't say that you're probably not going to improvise a whole bunch You're probably so there's like I There's like a whole freaking uh, uh, what's the game where you act out stuff charades I said the word I fucked it up. No, you did. That's perfect. You supposed to say the word. Oh in charades or not Oh, that's that's it two words. Uh, I got off topic here But the point is yes improvising to build a character improvising to solidify the character and keep it consistent Is a much smaller thing. So once you commit to the character, then you don't have to think Right guy used to play soccer with his name is friggin angus mclout Sounds like a song sounds like a scott's player. He's got you out of big pig. You can't hang on the ball Just pass it off and run into someone. Yes stupid pig I don't have to think about what that guy's gonna say. It's a big broad accent Right, but the principle is the same once you pick the character. Hold on to the character. Keep it consistent Right if on stage improv if you start the scene with the limp Unless jesus comes up and heals you during the scene which could happen You're gonna end with the limp. So listen back is my character consistent If it didn't say add a lot add we want make funny tags comedians then you're not gonna add a lot You're gonna add Three sounds and a couple words But those are all gonna be in support of your character and if you can improvise in a much Larger way on your own like establishing the character before you even crack a mic If you can do that, you can certainly add one to two words and a few sounds, right? Improvisation and voiceover. Does anyone know what it is? Improvisation and voiceover. Yeah, it's um embellishing the script or Sing it in your own words. Yes. Yes. Add living technically It's anything that isn't written in the script if it says I've never thought about it like that before and you go Huh, why you know, I never thought about it like that before Anything that wasn't written is improvised If you if you improvise something in an audition when you're doing the kit when you're going through your characters and you write it down Is it still improv? Fuck yes, it is. It's absolutely. It's your improv that you wrote down. Should I not a cuss intercourse? Yes, it is Uh, if you improvise it and write it down That's still improvised. It wasn't delivered to you on the script. So if you want to stand out And that's what we got, you know You're auditioning with 500 other actors You you want to stand out and the way you can do that is by those little Little things that make your character seem more real Nobody knows what the hell they're gonna say. I'm condensing this stuff. You'll see this at mavo in november I'll be there teaching me too. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I'm really stoked about that. There's still a couple tickets left It's a very small conference. Yeah, small small classes It's in washington dc at the dullis airport, right at the hotel near there. Well, we're not in the airport We're like getting luggage freeze. All right, give me an emotion But that's gonna be a fantastic, but this is kind of what the stuff that I teach which is Hang on to your character stay consistent and start from a place of real always start from a place of real and grounded Actually adam aka that's his philosophies. He did don't look up It started on snl anchor man and all those and he always says when he works what the succession to She loves I love success too. I do. I do uh, I do a one word Kendall Roy impression Okay, that's it. It was really good. Good job, stewie stewie. Okay, uh, so yeah in closing that's improv It's it's it's a very it's a complex but simple question Improv is anything that isn't that you add to the script If it doesn't say make it funny do all that don't don't do so much Just do what it says If you're gonna do something if you're gonna do something do it on a second take I always feel I always feel that if it's If it's a if it's two seconds long on an audition, but it's a better take and I've added more and it's cooler and funnier It's okay. I wouldn't go more than that if you go Three and four seconds as a guy who writes commercials and casts commercials Listen to tapes if it goes more it tends to be editorializing and doing something Different if you're if you're improvising in character and with what the writer was after You've got a much better chance of standing out. That's all we want to do. We want to stand out We want to we want to start eliminating some of those 400 or 500 other actors by by standing out and doing something a little different All right, so when you get it when you get a script when you get an audition script and you start looking at it and you're like Okay, it says, you know what some someone with good comedic chops. That's that's one of our favorite specs that we see Chops. I want chops comedic chops. I want someone who's been on vaudeville I want someone to ad have give me someone while i'm waiting. I don't like you Who are you what times my 430 change it to three and fire yourself. Yeah, no Yeah, take the girl. Yeah And the cannoli. Yeah, uh, when it go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, no Well, when when you're looking at it and you're you're you're analyzing it for what it's worth How do you determine what you're going to do? To ad lib or are you just looking for inspiration because usually that's No, I mean you read you read the specs and if the specs are good If it's for you know, if it's progressive or one of those things I know what the client is. I know that they're funny. I know that they like that I try and find stuff that works with the character. That's a funny observation or something that goes With the character because I want to be consistent I don't want to branch out and start. Hey, this is funny. You know, I have a funny joke. I'm going to shoehorn this here I was in radio for 11 years and when I started doing improv they had to beat the Joke tell you. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I've got I've had to do that with Kevin Capatric. I love him He's a radio guy and and I get to where I got to work with him in switzerland I work him in new york and then we had some major breakthroughs where I got him to stop doing jokes and just The humor comes through the character every great movie that you've seen the humor comes through the character Not an actual Guy works in a bar and says, you know, why the long face, right? It's not a joke joke It comes from the character when you say that's true. I was gonna say that's true I get a lot of I get a lot of animation auditions and video game auditions And he get all he gets all the commercial auditions. Um Uh, but I I also get some commercial as well, but usually like when I'm when I'm trying to be funny I don't like he says I don't rewrite the script for them. I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna Totally, I don't know bash their idea, you know, like I'm not gonna completely rewrite the script But I am gonna do something that maybe my character would do like I I'm uh I'm the voice of a character in a video game and she's a total. She's a total. What's your name and what's the video game? Dude Her name is nagi and she's from neo the world ends with you which is the sequel to the world ends with you Um, it's on the switch and the ps4 and uh, wherever you can find games, but when I was auditioning for her Um, I was kind of like obviously I'm putting a lot of myself into this character Characters a giant nerd total nerd, but she's like she's way more nerdy than I am Um, and I would that is very tough and I would I would you know, I would put little like nerdy noises like You know, like I would make you know, weird little nerdy noises that I I hear You know, some of the people that I see at conventions make, you know, like I see all these redditors out in the open and you know, and they're talking about and and uh, Yes, I would yes, I would do that absolutely and I would you know, and so they have all these fun like little These little vocal quirks and I try to work some of that into I always say be a student of the world be a student of people Listen, you know what I mean? Yeah, you can pick up so much if someone in fact, if somebody's rude or mean She and I tend to get trying to get more out of them because it's more. Oh, well, I'm sorry What else is wrong with what we did? Okay, you know what I'm so sorry to bother you, but can you bring us another water? I prefer that I prefer something be really great or really awful. Yeah, absolutely. Um, I think yeah I think that improv is is really fun But you want to make the script your own and be unique about it But you don't want to completely rewrite their script because then they will get offended and and maybe not like They won't even listen past the first part. No. Yeah, I would say like start out No, never mind. I'm not gonna say that. No, you said it. I was gonna say maybe, you know Maybe start out with the script and then maybe as you go along maybe sprinkle a little improv But that's not always necessarily true Um, sometimes I improv right at the beginning, you know, but it's if it fits with the character It works with what the message of the it's really important to understand what thereafter To understand what the I know it's very simple. How do you read their mind when well, you don't it's it's in the specs It's okay. It's a food commercial Right. Do they want me to be happy about the food? Yeah, they're fucking paying you $400 to be happy about the food It's amazing how many you you listen to and they don't smile when they say the product or they go down You know, it's it's from olive garden No, it's from olive garden, you know, if it's a food spot You're gonna romance the food if it says pepper crusted corn served in a parchment with hand farmed blood orange You're gonna you're gonna romance that you can't just flat line that stuff If it's a if it's a commercial for socks that gives money to charity and they're silly socks You're not gonna be flat and and like it's a We give these socks away To help people every day You're gonna be we we give these socks away to help people every day you buy some you get whatever print you want Know what they're after they'll give you really good most of the time They'll give you really good clues in the specs of what they're after and then you look if it's if it's a commercial that you really want Look, who's Who's the agency of record? Do they do funny stuff? Is the last campaign funny? Do they like funny or are they changing right? Do your research? You don't have to go on a giant deep dive for you know selling cheese and blood thinner But but but at least try and understand the writer's position The guy's 24. He's been stuck in a cubicle or she Their life expectancy in an agency is 18 months. This means a lot to them They've written it if you if you are a hero and you address what they're asking for in the specs And they're in the meeting with their bosses and and you land the joke Believe me you're you like as a writer you like that person because you can go see unfunny creative non creative lawyers This is funny people like it right? Yeah, so let's let's change topics here for just a second because you know Fishing to me is one of the best. Oh you want it? I'm sorry I was I was hoping to maybe touch on your relationship and stuff like that. But what advice do you have for Young voice actors who have parents already in the business Pretty specific No, it's good. Um, you know you there's move out is what she's exactly move out as soon as possible Right now move out. I'm sure me Get drop what you're doing drop what you're doing and leave suitcase. No, um I think honestly the the thing that I struggle with sometimes in my self-worth is you know Is is everything that I've done because of my dad, you know because because because He's you know, he's an incredible talent. He's amazing But he did kind of introduce me to this and and I'm like, oh man, you know like I I really hope that I just I don't do too much nepotism I hope that I actually am talented and I hope I actually have what it takes to do what he does I don't want to be trust fund baby. Jonathan, you know That money's gone. No, no, you know But I don't want to be you know the the vice president of a company and do absolutely nothing all day And like all there's a lot of people who who have nepotism don't actually have the skills to do what they're doing And I want to comment on this up when you when you're done Some there's a lot of people that don't have the skills that their parents have Um, but they get into the industry anyway because they feel like it or they they want to have money Or you know, whatever whatever it is their goal is there's also a situation where the kid is more talented than the parent And this is the case she I can do I can do an accent for her and she can be better than me in that accent in months Let me say this there's no favors in this particular industry No one's hiring you because you know the bald dad who's really fun to be around here is here is my advice Uh to the person that is thinking of moving out of their dad's place. Uh, no Here is my advice to to young actors and horse actors who have parents in the game Learn as much as you can from that parent Learn as much as you can listen to them See what they do if they're successful and see what they do what their practices are You know, what do they what do they do that makes them so unique and special that they got this job in the first place? And then you start working on trying to expand and find your own voice Because that's something that I've struggled to find to to do because I want to I want to be unique I want to be Uh, you know successful and funny like my dad, but also I want to be my own person Uh, and I want to have my own style and my own voices that I can do So I want to feel unique and supported and very lucky that I'm in this industry But I also don't want to feel like I'm writing, you know writing the coattails too hard Right, you're not my coattails are short and they're I know they were cut off cut off three years ago From what I've seen you you've already accomplished that because Yeah, I mean I would never know that you know that you were his daughter By the way you were acting you were totally unique your own person. Yeah We got one question here a couple of questions from our the massive studio audio or out of studio audience From grace new i see i see you watching Um, um, Miranda what who are your influences? Is there a particular voice actor you aspire to work with? I have so many influences We'll give us the top one for voice acting. I would say Tara strong great griffin Laurie Allen, Mindy Sterling, Lorraine Newman Uh, all of the above all these incredible animation veterans that I've God they they they are all of the voice actors that I aspire to work with and I am so proud to call them my friends Um, and I've worked with all of them Specifically on my pilot and and I work with Tara a lot We do a podcast together sometimes called the ship it show, but like I get to work with her constantly and it's it's why is it called The ship it show Ship So like oh, yeah, I ship these two characters. They should be together. They should make out a little bit I totally miss that here's here's a quiz if you're over 50. It's relation. I didn't know either Um, but yeah, like I all these voice acting influences in terms of animation. I would say Uh, god, uh, Justin Roiland is an is an incredible talent. Sergio. Sergio Pablos is an incredible talent. That was Klaus I don't know if you've seen that. It's just Michael Cusack who made smiling friends, uh, just just he's also very great. Yeah. No, he's great Um, oh my god, because he's great voice actor too, but just like just all these young talents over the garden wall Uh pat mackayl. Yeah, Guillermo del Toro All of these people have she has signed art from all of these people Which is really cool because she's a member of a sifa and women in film So we've got to go to screenings and she's I've had bring your art and they'll sign it and they flip out at her Art, what's sifa a sifa a sifa is the elderly black Um It is the largest animation organization They host the annies every year and you can purchase a membership which is pretty awesome. C e f a a sifa a s i f a So I think it's like a s i f a yeah, it's a pretty great organization. She gets to go to a lot of screenings Yeah, no, it's great and you can bring your friends. You don't even have to be in the industry What's the barrier to entry to become a sifa? You have to have a pulse There's no barrier. You have to just pay it and like animation. Okay. Um, there's student members. I'm asking for a friend No, it's great. No, it's great and you can bring your friends I'm going to go see wendell and wild early with the q&a with the director Is who uh, jordan peel produced and henry selic directed and he directed jayce nine and core line and It just goes on forever Yes, exactly. Um, no, I love henry selic. Uh, yeah Well guys, we're we're we're we're I wanted you to say literally the name of my project It's called the comet casino and you can find me at park in art. There's no spaces on instagram. Yeah And we're gonna we're gonna do another uh showing of the comet for a bunch of buyers and folks And we do have some more merch and we're we're revamping the store and getting that going right now We're working really hard to get the sound design and score done And uh, we'll be show we'll be doing a showing. I just want to say thank you so much everybody that's Supported uh the comet. It's been a long run. It's a animation is so much different than You know a four cameras you sell the script and they decide to make it This is way different. This is from the ground up and without you guys, we wouldn't have been able to do it So yeah, where can they go support it? Uh, currently we don't have the The instagram page is up. I will be updating it. It's called it's the comet casino Uh, that's the instagram page the store and the store Is not up right now, but I will be putting it in my bio. I'll be talking about it. Um on my instagram parking art Yeah, we're revamping and we had we we sold a bunch of stuff that we got some new jewelry and we had wonderful models do some bunch of stuff and we've been trying to put that together But I broke my ribs and then I went to new york and switzerland, so it's been a little again with the ribs Again with the switzerland Hey, don't forget about mavo. It's gonna be great. Mr. Dan, and I will be there We'll be there. All right, scott moranta. Thanks for being with us Remember in person everything is better. So remember that vio. Atlanta. It's gonna be fantastic this year Got uh jmc in charge the level just raised immensely. So, uh, we'll see you there in march March, yes. Yeah, it's gonna be fantastic. All right, george, and I'll be right back to wrap things up right after this Thanks guys. 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You got to learn all these different things. You got to hustle I know but we're here to help you out But the bottom line is if it sounds good it is good I'm dan Leonard and i'm george wittem and this is voice over body shot or vio bs I love having an audience Get set for tech talk. Am I that much larger than you? Sue we're gonna try one more time. I mean, we don't really need the other camera now. Let's just reframe and Yeah, yeah, move move this one out of the way I think we're gonna roll out boys. Yeah, you should So you guys had to talk about your anime instagram. It's fucking amazing. Thank you He writes his music. He writes his copy Good to see him. It's been a while. It's been a really good show. We live way too close by I have a little stereo, a little Bose I play I love my little Bose. I have a trailer. I do the I do the venice electric white parade. You gotta do that Yeah, no, I've seen it. You haven't done it. No, I'd love to do it. It's freaking fun I have a bob trailer with a sound system. I tow. Oh, I love it for several blocks. I love that I've seen those near the pier Come on out Yeah, I'm looking for my keys currently. I don't know. Well your car may be out there then The ac remote. No, it's on the behind over there next to the door Chances are we won't hear it as much because we're over here and turn turn mic this mic down Oh, okay, we'll be with you guys in a sec Don't go anywhere Hell yeah, awesome. Thank you. That's amazing. That's the first time I've been asked to play something in six years Oh my gosh But that's great. I got to do the siren song Thanks for having me on you guys. Oh, it's good to see Miranda. Take care. You too. Thank you. Thanks for being here. Thank you so much Oh goodness gracious Hell yeah, hell yeah Yeah, so we made again Very well. That's right. They've put a lot of weight just in the merch alone Check check. Give me a level one two three four one two three It's a little closer. A little more intimate for this one. Yeah Plus we we want to sound like we know we're doing Eventually they're gonna figure out one two three four just faking the whole thing, but you know All righty. Thanks for being patient. Sue Yeah, all right, so it's all right eight so It looks like the video image cleared up Okay, tell her I said hi I think we are ready Remember we used to do the tech first and then we would make the guests in every way to sit and wait Yeah, we we we stopped that Oh man tech talk. Okay. All right. Remember this is there's also a new intro for tech talk zoom so Okay, and she she went like that, which means I had no idea we were talking about She gave me a thumbs up. All right. Okay. Are we ready? Watching the hand. Are we going to four? Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk Mm-hmm. We got lots of cool stuff tonight 89 89. It's tech talk number 89. Yeah. Oh flash the 89 There it is Jay's Next time would be 90 I heard 2d graphics are all the rage right now. Really? Yeah. Oh, didn't you like our 89? Oh, no, well, there's 90 Okay, okay time machine. That's right. Anyway, if you've got a question for us about your home voiceover studio Or some audio question that has to do with voiceover Throw it in the chat room right now because we'll be happy to answer it We've got a couple people wrote in this week So we have a couple of pre written questions. They go first in the queue That's the way to do it. But we got lots of stuff to cover. You've got stuff in your tech update Yeah, I will talk about a couple new audio interfaces and You know, uh, maybe a little bit about a mic I heard about that some people are liking A little bit about soundproofing and a little thing about audacity. We're gonna cover a lot of stuff All right, and I'm gonna talk about dropouts. Well, we'll both talk about dropouts. Yeah, and we're not talking high school Anyway, it's voiceover body shop tech talk right now Tech talk Brought to you by voiceover essentials.com the home of harlin hogan signature products Source elements the makers of source connect Voiceover heroes become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training Voice actor websites.com where your voice actor website doesn't have to be a pain in the butt voiceover extra your daily resource for voiceover success And world voices the industry association of freelance voice talent And now here's your hosts dan and george Well, hello there. I'm dan lennard and i'm george widham and this is voiceover body shop or vo b s tech talk tech talk tech talk where we talk tech and uh You know it's been an interesting couple of weeks with the car accident finally getting my new car eventually And uh, and while we're talking i'm probably in morocco. That's right when this is airing. Yeah, yeah, i'm gonna be in morocco going to The canary islands amazing spain and a couple of other cool places and but someone will be here at the house all the time with a fire hose With a taser Don't even think about it All right, both my kids will be here. You don't want to deal with them Anyway, uh, we're here to talk about home voiceover studio technology Which is really shouldn't be so Technologically it should be simple and all you really want to be is a voice actor But there's so much stuff out there So much technology That makes it so much easier If you know how to use and there's also a lot more demands on the voice actor now Technologically thanks to a little thing called the pandemic. That's true. So there's a lot more expectations You gotta know what you're doing, but it's not rocket science It's logical and it's simple and there's lots of tools to help you out So why don't we go into well first? We have to tell people what we do Yes, we do which is We work with home voiceover studios. This is a very very unique niche place Because everybody who's a voice actor has to have one it used to be used to you know hear an la people would just go to their Uh, you know their agents office and there'd be a booth there and they would record there And or they would get hired for a gig that way and then they would go into somebody's studio But not anymore. You gotta have a good home studio that sounds Right. There's no such thing as audition sound quality anymore. Is this good enough for auditions? Yeah, we still got I still if you're a name actor Yeah, you can get away with that. That's true like but if you're a work a day voice actor You're not you're not you know in the hundred thousand followers on instagram club, etc, etc You you have to provide the audio that the client is expecting you here on the finished Product every time. So what does it take to get there to get your audio there? Well, well, we know how and that's what george and I do Because we've worked with thousands of people literally when we started it was hundreds Over the the 12 years that we've been doing this show 11 and a half Well, I would say between us it's way over 5000 at this point. Yeah most most likely way over Yeah, and the great thing about that is is we learn an awful lot. I mean if you if you're not learning you're not living So we've learned a tremendous amount about every different possible room and Mike and all these different when you hire us you're getting this condensed down filtered Concentrated injected version Of knowledge that is uh, you know an accumulation of things that we've that we know works That's right. All right, not experiments things that we know really works and we'll talk about some of them So if if you need to work with somebody who actually knows what they're doing as opposed to I have a voice over friend who Who uses pro tools and he uses all this stuff If you want to learn how to do it right you can work with one of us And if you want to work with george, you go over to george d.tech I mean, it's right there. There's a new website coming out in the next Couple of weeks. I've never listened to dan talk about his new website's coming any day and that's how I feel right now I'm new website's coming But uh, it's still currently available to book on demand services. Um, you can just do a sound check I mean, that's probably what almost everybody really actually needs the first time. Do I sound any good? Am I bookable? Um, but dan does a very similar thing over at home voiceover studio dot com And uh, now you go there the first thing you're gonna see is my specimen collection Where you can get Front and center because it's one of the most important things right and you can get my analysis of your audio And I will listen to it and within five seconds. He knows how to whistle That's right. He knows what it's supposed to sound like. This is the way it's supposed to sound and that's what I do And I will give you a very thorough report an analysis on What it sounds like And is it on the mark or off the mark? And what are some minor changes you can make to get it sounding better because it's usually not something Major unless of course, they're talking through their laptop mic thinking that they're talking through their microphone Which happens occasionally. Right, right, but anyway, so that's what we do Check us out. We're the guys. Do you need to talk to when it comes to home voiceover studios? Everybody else says they're an expert We've been there done that So that's right. So anyway, let's get into george's tech update because you got lots of stuff on there today Yeah, I mean some weeks. There's just nothing interesting new happening and right now there's several things coming along you know, I product reviews I've been doing a lot less of those lately because honestly to be completely frank They ain't worth doing that much. It's very time consuming There's really, you know, you're putting if you're trying to be a youtuber forget it. I'm not even interested But there are things that They just come across my they come across the bow and I just like um, and one of those is a a new interface that Can't remember who mentioned it first. It might have been Byron Wagner. He's a big fan of luit Um, and it's called the luit. They make the microphones, right? Luit connect six spelled the correct way c o n e e c t not to be confused with the one that starts with k Made by tc. Um, and this is an interface that Is Let's just put it this way It is not with the average voice actor probably needs but it is something for people that want more flexibility and how they route audio Um, the ability to do a little bit beyond just standard voice work and maybe Work real time do more live stuff Livestream and certainly podcasting podcasting for this. This is this is a really amazing tool for that because it's just It's a great amalgamation of parts hardware high gain mic pramp so you can use any mic with it Great signal routing and it's made by luit which has a really good Pedigree for quality. Yeah, I would say their mics are really quiet. That's what they're known for. Yeah. Yeah, and Anyway, it's called the luit connect So you may have assume may have already thrown it on screen, but she's got the website up right now Oh, no, she's got the website for The m-game. Oh, there it is. Thank you That's what it looks like. It's kind of wild looking Um, go to the next photo in that little carousel sue That shows a little bit more of a feature of the unit itself. Yeah, that that is really what it looks like All right Somebody said, hey, you know what this thing's gonna be cool because I can put little figurines on all those little platforms It's a crazy looking piece of industrial engineering But um, what makes it good is the quality of the parts and the preamps and the the signal routing Not not to be outdone. Meanwhile, there's the whole gamer side of everything and m-audio now has m-game So they are doing m-audio M-audio is taking their technology to the gamers So I know I'm still going a little off off course from voiceover But at the end of the day a lot of the things that gamers and everybody else needs Is really what we still actually need which is being able to have a loop back Being able to play back something things like that the m-game RGB dual can do all that stuff now. Here's the thing If you're a gamer, you're gonna go bananas for this thing Not being a gamer if you're it's it's a pomegranate if you're if you're a voice actor from theater of a certain age You're gonna be like This thing is insane But I'll tell you when I went through and looked at the m-gamer's uh m-games feature set I was like, holy cow and again the price the stoop. There's like a $300 price point that they're nailing with these products I mean the m-gamer dual is called dual because it will plug into two separate pcs or a mac and a pc Simultaneously. Oh, so if you have your like production system, yeah, and your communication system You have two completely independent systems that won't interfere with each other and they all route through the interface Um, it's really really fascinating and they call it the rgb In true gamer style every single led on the interface is color changeable You can completely customize The lighting on the thing All right, I mean, you know if you know, you know, right some of you're gonna be like going nuts for this thing I I can't vouch for the purity of its sound quality yet The money is not known for bad gear, but they're known really for very kind of budget stuff. Yeah So i'm curious to see yeah, what the what the noise floor of it and things like that There's precious little reviews on this thing because they're shoving into the gamer sphere So there's not a lot of like pro audio people none talking about it So that's why i'm talking about it here. So if anybody's interested in getting one and is dares to buy one Uh And rents one for a while it wants to let us know what they think let us know um another thing that came up, it's interesting is the Oh, I just also wanted to say I mentioned that connect six connect six is not the tc Connect that's been around for many years. So don't get them confused. Okay um next up Vanguard microphones, we've had one in the studio at one time. We gotta be great. I have all their t-shirts all their shirts So do I I think um They're a great very locally run microphone company small company Um, which is kind of nice because they don't try to make one of everything, right? And they've got uh their tube mic now We talk and I talk I will say personally against using tube a lot However, um, if you really are just kind of you you've been using condenser mics for many years and you just want to dip your toe This is a probably a really great entry point and at owning a tube microphone It's way under the thousand dollar price point way under. I think it's in the seven hundred dollar price point Why would someone want to use and we're talking about a tube We're not talking about a microphone that looks like a tube. We're talking about A it literally has a an electrical tube. Yeah, you've got a couple over Dan has a whole collection of things with tubes in them over here um a tube a tube is a different way to power the microphones electronics and It actually in a weird way provides some decree of distortion It's not as clinically accurate or flat as a fet or solid-state condenser So they tend to have a little more character. Anyway, uh, david k Scott scott romell's had one for years. Um, chris fries has one david k just recently got one because his 67 Now he has a peluso p67 and he has a noyman u67 also a nice one. We did a really really a nice expensive mic These vintage mics even these more modern takes on vintage mics They're a little persnickety And again, this is why i'm like saying that most people don't go tube Well, anyway, he got one in there and he sent me some files. He said, how does this, you know Are we gonna have to retune everything does it sound a lot different from the u67? And i gotta say it's stacked up really really nicely against the A mic that costs 10 times as much So if you want something that has A little color a little something different and you don't want to break the bank the vanguard v13 Might be a way to go. It's pretty impressive. Cool. Um, moving on to soundproofing Um, one of them we talk about an awful. Yeah, we talk a lot about acoustics and soundproofing One of my uh studio build project clients right now jessica taylor sent me a random email out of the blue And her studio is practically finished But she sent me an email about a thing that would go inside the walls of the studio that she's already finished But obviously somebody told her about homo soat Homo soat is a product developed in canada That is essentially like a sound. It's a state. Generically call it soundboard And the problem with homo soat To stop snow to stop noise right density density You need air and you need density, right? Homo soat is this middle ground material. It's nowhere near as dense as drywall It's not foam. It's not insulation. It's kind of like this middle ground And from all the research I've done on this stuff, everybody says Pound for pound dollar for dollar Another layer of drywall, which is considerably less expensive than a sheet of homo soat is a far better sound uh a sound a soundproofing product, right? So Your mileage may vary. I know some companies are using homo soat as part of the construction of their product And it may in in proper use help But if you're looking to soundproof and all you do is put up a layer of homo soat You're not going to get out of that what you think you're going to get out of it. It's not It's not really up to snuff. Yeah, I've tried the new idea city. Oh, did you I uploaded it? Yeah Downloaded it. I just threw it on my computer because they finally have a 3.2 point one Yes, which fixes A lot of bugs 3.0 3.2 point. Oh, it was it was pretty buggy Uh, but 3.2 point ones come came came out. Did you mess around with the effects thing? No, yeah, I don't use a lot of those effects Everything sounds good the way it just goes in and goes on to the hardware. It's soundproof in here. It's got quiet ventilation It's got all the good stuff. Well audacity 3.2 point one has a Real-time effects feature now, which is kind of funny because all of its competition has had all this for many many years They finally decided they would put it in it means that you can now have effects stacked or racked On a track and you can hear those while you're playing the audio So you can audition it. Yes, you can hear it in real time, which for me as an engineer Thank you the most frustrating thing about Audacity and its macro technology, which as it's macros are fine It's great that you can sequence in a bunch of different things But you can't probe you can't listen to them in real time So with with the real-time effects you can insert, you know a little a little high-pass filter You could have a little two-to-one compressor if you need or you know a little eq And you can actually hear what they're doing while they're actually doing it You can audition them real time. But these these are things that an engineer Would worry about somebody who is not physically doing The voice acting because if you're concentrating on the technology While you're recording. Yeah, when I say real time, I let me qualify that please You are not listening to this processing in your headphones. Oh good. Okay It is not It's not true real time. It's not zero latency. It's not like you're going to hear this amazing Bass heavy sound and this bigger-than-life compressor. No, you're not going to be monitoring through it That's a that is a key thing to mention It is really just allowing you to hit play And immediately hear that little bit of processing and you can tune it and tweak it things like that So anyway, that's what's new in audacity. Um, I haven't personally put 3.2.1 through the ringer yet I'm still been kind of like cautious saying stick with 3.1.3 Because I know that one works great and stable So if you want to try out both you can you can actually keep an old version Just rename it, which is exactly what I just did on my computer. I renamed the old version I call it audacity audacity 3.1.3 And then I have the new one installed as well And you don't have to lose your old version You can keep keep the old one until you're feeling really confident about it I'm actually pretty impressed they they changed the the interface a little bit You know, so things are a little bit easier to follow. We can actually show that I sue has a video Just two minutes long go for it's a demo of audacity from audacity's youtube channel Take it away And we're back for those here watching live. You didn't get to hear the audio but those watching the If the edited version Thanks to dan We'll hear the audio on that little on that little reel But you'll got to at least see the the new interface of audacity. So um, lastly, um I know apple is announcing new stuff this month. Everybody is anticipating it and I don't care You don't care. Here's why The stuff they launched two years ago to me is still frigging fantastic. Yeah I mean an m1 Mac from two years ago, which is now what I'm running in my studio the 2020 late 2020 m1 MacBook Air And and that's what we have on dan's desk right here. And then the the the mac mini m1 Are fantastic. They work, right? They are fantastic. I There are there are new things coming all the time the m2 is coming right etc. Etc It's kind of like, you know Saying well, I my car has 400 horsepower, but the new one's got 480 Who buffing care like unless you are a total car Car guy who has to show up at cars and coffee with the newest fastest thing and to me that's what these new computers are Going to be they're going to be incremental Upgrades from what came out last year and so I'm really not at it really don't care Then they're going to all have a new os called Ventura And that's going to be a new problem to deal with It's so because it's a new OS months to to get all the bugs all the bugs all the manufacturers have blah blah blah So honestly if you're thinking about buying a new Mac Unless you're gonna be doing heavy-duty video production work and need the latest fastest everything which most of you don't need We'd be quite happy with it's currently on the market and really you want to be on Monterey That's the OS you want to be on like if you've been thinking about Upgrading to Monterey like you've been waiting because we keep telling you not to Now is a pretty good time if your system is you know that all your software and everything's compatible Now is a safe time to go to Monterey. It's pretty well Fully baked and it won't have too many more updates. So anyway, there you have it. All right, Dan Yeah, let's talk drop-out Drop-up. Yeah, no a drop-out I Get a lot of emails from people and they're sending me their audio and I'm getting all these thumps and Now sometimes it could be well, it's you're you're exhaling when you're talking And you get a thump out of your nose. Oh, I know some yeah, yeah, but no we're talking about digital thumps and digital drop-outs and what those usually are is a lot of different things and They can be caused by different things, but it's the recording of the audio not keeping up With the stream of audio and when that happens you will get and it's easy to see you'll one You'll hear it because it'll thump and sometimes it'll be thump thump thump thump thump thump thump And sometimes it might be one here one there, but whenever it happens people like what's causing that and And it could be a number of things. It's usually not an analog problem. It is generally never an analog problem It is a it's not something that you're if you're listening to your mic While recording, you're not gonna hear you're not gonna It's something that's on the hard drive and that's one of the reasons you might get it Like it used to be a real big problem when everyone was using mechanical hard drives Which was everybody until four or five years ago until they came out with SSDs, but solid-state drives You guys all know that flash drives. Yeah, and those generally you wouldn't think that you would get dropouts from that But if originally still creep up though, huh? Yeah, they a lot and and I've been trouble shooting a lot of them The last couple of weeks now. Is there any one platform or system or hardware or anything? That's doing it more than anything else PC's and we know us I was leading you down the primrose you knew where I was going with that I had one yesterday someone who was a good client of mine. She's like I've been doing this and all of a sudden I'm getting it and and she had changed interfaces and changed mics That's the worst when you know they've changed a million and I'm right and I'm like You know, there's a really simple answer to this what what computer you are using a PC And when did the problem start? She say it started like a week ago a month ago, or it's been happening. It's been happening off and on for a while Okay, so I'm like Get it. I know you don't want it. You don't want to hear this but get a Mac Yeah, and then she writes back. Yeah, my husband's been telling me that well great minds think a light Got herself in a MacBook Air Problem so you got over the learning curve. Okay I imagine she's actually had a Mac or used before but yeah, but that solved the problem. It's PCs are a real problem because they're not really designed for recording audio The Macs have a core audio system to them, which is it's much more integrated into how the computer works Yeah, yeah, and that's why you can do it's literally core. It's literally the core of the design of the Apple It's it's about capturing audio and video Reliably right and having everything work together. It's Just is I've never had a dropout with a Mac Windows 11 Hasn't changed that you know Windows 10 is basically Windows Windows 11 is basically Windows 10 under kind of only inside just with a new Mac kind of OS a little bit looking You know interface to it, but it's still just Windows the problem is is that PCs because they're they're modular and the way they're put together and you can mix and match You know cards and you know and the soda drives and all this other there's a lot going on Inside your computer. You know what an IQ is what do you know what an IRQ is? It's an interrupt an interrupt requests something something. I actually remembered that I'm impressed with myself RQ's they're they actually still exist. They just don't see them in the way that we used to but they can still create conflicts The way the sound drivers and windows environments work They don't multitask very well, right if you have to do zoom while you're using Adobe audition or a Dacidae Chances are you're gonna have conflicts of drivers and on and on and on right But there's another thing that can cause yeah, and that is using a long daisy change USB cable That's right. I somebody was having USB cable She had the wires running underneath the floor and then there was one hub She had plugged it into one hub it went through the floor and then went to another hub before it went into the computer Yeah, like all right. Let's try one long line Yeah, fix the problem. I have one in my bag It's like a 20-something foot USB, right and I used it on Uncle Royce to run the this camera You're you that that camera over there? Yeah from his stage down and over to our board like it was a 20-something long cable But it was the right kind of extension. It was an active cable Yeah, and USB see they say you can't run them too long I know someone's running the 50 footer and it works fine with with a junction But if you have a specialized junction for USB see you can generally run along. Yeah You're playing with fire extending USB That's that's why all the manufacturers other than saving money. That's why they all conclude a little three-foot long Cable in the box. Yes, that's why because they want a guarantee that it works And the first time there's anything like this goes wrong with dropouts. What do they tell you? Are you using the factory cable? No Yeah, so watch out for that. Yes, so don't use don't get dropouts use a Mac Don't daisy chain your USB Cables yeah, if you if you and if you're like well my Mac is Outside because the fan noise is too loud, but I have a scarlet Which do I extend extend the XLR mic cable and put the scarlet near the Mac or the piece? Whatever it is Mac or PC put that out there and For whatever reason that makes sounds strange to you but extending an XLR mic cable Usually no problems go usually no problems at all. All right. Well, we're gonna take a quick break here And after that we will get to your questions And if you have questions you still have plenty of time to throw them in the chat room So Jeff Holman can write them down for us and we can read them and then answer them Which is what we do sounds pretty simple machine like a machine I know anyway, we'll be right back on voiceover body shop. 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That's VO heroes comm slash start Before time began there was VOBS dot TV watch or else All right, we're back here at voiceover body shop tech talk and If you've got a question for us if you're like totally intrigued and and and have a problem or don't really understand something about Voiceover technology now would be a really great time to type in one of the chat rooms Whether you're on Facebook live or YouTube live or wherever it is you're watching this You can put it in the chat room there and we will get that question in just scant moments Absolutely, but people have written in because we told you if you write in your questions if you write to us at so the guys at VOBS dot TV And you write your question it will get to the front of the queue So if you're watching the show, you know Your question's gonna come up first. That's right. So Tim. This was the first one for tonight. Tim McKean asks He says my mic has an HPF high-pass filter switch setting my digital audio workstation has multiple HPF opportunities is there a difference is a Hardware switch on the mic better than a software HPF Later in the chain is one cleaner than the other. Oh, that's an interesting question. It sort of depends on the mic Because some high-pass filters are not the same as other high-pass filters. Yeah on any one particular mic. That's right Yeah, and so what's better? Well, it sounds good. Yeah, whatever sounds good. That's good. It is good My philosophy is always fix everything in post and if you if you record something and there is a low Frequency rumble or noise down there You can control it on the back end More precisely and not without having to yeah, you know The thing is is when you put something on the front end, it's there forever, right now with that said if you've got a Really loud low frequency rumble under 80 Hertz Yeah, the high-pass filter just makes a good wave Yeah, all the way through your or if you're looking into the spectrogram. It's this big sort of red line across Yeah, you can You it's a process if you've got a high-pass filter on the mic Try that first now some mics have a high-pass filter that might actually take away some of the sensitivity of the entire mic Yeah, or they take away too much of the low end right and it'll affect the fidelity Yeah, the really good ones don't necessarily do that They just cut off everything below 80 Hertz the human voice doesn't really exist below 80 Hertz unless you're you know, you were down LaFontaine or Who was that Ravens Croft? Yeah, that's name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That way that guy guy whose voice would rumble you from 20 base Yeah, yeah, and the u87 is a peculiar one in its high-pass filter starts very high Yeah, I did guys don't quote me. I think it's 150 Hertz that it would that it starts at so That may not work really well for many of you Whereas like the the Vanguard v4, which is a mic. I know very well. I like it its high-passes in 80 Hertz Sure the KSM 32's they have two different high-pass filter modes interestingly They have a steeper one and a more shallow one. So what's the right one to use? Whatever one sounds best And then you said your your interface has one same exact thing More than likely it's an on-off switch So you're just gonna have to try them and see what you find sounds better You know, but I think the one place where a real-time one is really helpful is in the case of doing like a source Connect if you're doing a live session. Yeah, you got to cut it out You don't want to send that studio who's listened to you through $10,000 studio monitor speakers standing 40 Hertz rumble You know, they're gonna be really a I mean Honestly, they should know what to do. They should be it. They should have a high-pass filter at the ready But still it's like you want to connect and sound relatively clean, you know, so that's a place where it's really nice to have Absolutely, so yeah, a high-pass filter is You know because I have found no matter where you are if you are in a place of residence There's something 80 Hertz and below. Yes, especially a multi unit building, right? Especially people living on the top floors of high-rises where the compressors are and stuff Yeah, my acupuncturist is on the top floor of her building and I go in there and I'm lying down Isn't it crazy like if you're in the wrong spot of a big building Yeah, I had a client who had a double-wall whisper room in in a commercial building, right? He wanted to get away from the family you have a place to go work. Da-da-da bought this very expensive whisper room And it was in the precisely wrong place in the building the each-fact system Standing waves just built up in that room It was and what was worse is once you went in the whisper room Yeah, that frequency was like a natural resonant frequency of this whisper so you shut the door It was even worse. It was insane. Yeah, so watch out for that And by the way one last thing a high-pass filter is also known as a low-cut filter filter So if you're going way, well, what's the low cut? It's a different way of saying the same thing a high-pass meaning that frequencies above 80 Hertz or wherever It's set at pass through anything below and sing as is the human voice generally isn't below 80 Hertz No matter what one you're using it's not going to affect your voice. It's a pretty safe bet Yeah, I know now there's a very popular Mike the the caddy 100 s has a high-pass filter on it I tried it. Yeah, it really sort of threw off the sensitivity of the mic and changed its characteristics too much Yeah, I think that one some of them had an issue where you turn it on it would get a little noisier. Yes and Yeah, so you got to be why you got to watch out some mics have more than one frequency that you can choose so We could talk about it for a while as you can see but at the end of the day If you're not sure send the sample to Dan or I so we can hear What sound you know send us three samples? This is one high-pass wish only the one on my interface only now This is one with my doll. What sounds better? Exactly. Yeah. All right. Once again If you got a question still lots of time you can throw it in the chat room I'm sure you're all like totally mesmerized by our expertise here Anyway, you get the one from Renee. All right from Renee. It's a long one. Hi there. I was wondering if you could help me I'm currently re-recording my commercial and audiobook demo reels, and I keep running into the same issue Sibling That sounded pretty terrible actually I did a good job my rig Consists of audacity 2.4 point 2 Lmms 1.2 point 2. What is that? You were waiting for me to know what that was I am I don't know what that is I know what the next thing is a toner q9 usb mic. Okay, so a budget usb mic Not not even a budget usb mic. This is I think when we get to the bottom of this question That's where the issue is to carry on some Sony headphones some moving blankets and the closet Here's the breakdown. I can record pretty clean audio that only requires a small amount of Editing due to the acoustic treatment of the space good good on you However, my levels are on the lower side with regards to volume to avoid my sound getting clipped So in other words you're recording with lower levels to keep from peaking I guess right When I process or EQ and compress the audio to even out the sound the playback is good Sound-wise, but the crispness causes heavy sibilants I've tried a handful of different hacks and tricks, but I end up with Either better volume with sibilants or high quality audio that's dawn near impossible to hear Are there any other hacks or tricks? I can try to prevent this from affecting my recordings and demos and he helped you can give me as greatly Appreciate it. Well, I'm gonna start from the reverse. Okay. I'm gonna start from here From the headphones. All right She mentions using Sony headphones now I don't know that particular ones that she was using But they're not the quote the the quintessential MDR 7506's but I can tell you that those are those headphones expose sibilants very well Like meaning big kind of exaggerated has been on experience So when you get a louder cleaner a much louder signal You're literally monitoring yourself much much louder. So anything that you don't like is gonna be louder, right? So that's might be it could be that simple as to why the sibilants is so Noticable when you record with really good levels, right? But why are we getting the sibilants in the first place? That's the question Well, the problem I see is with the microphone. She's using which is a a Tonor Q9 USB microphone now When I hear these things and I see these when people you know email me, you know, I do what you always do I google it I mean, I'd heard of this mic before but I My name's come up. It is a cheap USB Microphone for $69. Oh well under a hundred bucks. I'm well under a hundred. Okay. It's yeah, not only is it budget. It's It's not even good for podcasting. Okay, it's and that and it they sell it with With a reticulated arm. Oh, it's one of those packages. Yeah Yeah, you get the mic and the mic is green Yeah, the mic is terrible and the reason you're getting sibilants is essentially and this is from my own brain I think it's the overmodulation of a high-frequency Mm-hmm and and so you get the distortion and it sounds very very sibilant and there are lots of people Oh, my voice is really sibilant So if you're talking to somebody and they say their voice is very sibilant and they're in the same room with you Yeah, that's pretty unusual. Yeah, so it's generally It can be the mic if the mic is doesn't have the frequency response if it can handle things over like 10,000 Hertz. Yeah, you know 10k Chances are that's where it's causing the sibilants So if she went to a better microphone Like say a road NT1 or an NT1 a or one of the audio-technica mics, you know the 2035 or better Mm-hmm something over a hundred and fifty dollars Along with a good interface everybody's like why don't want to have to deal with an interface I want a USB mic like well you have to have a good USB mic and a good USB mic I mean a really good one generally is the same cost as getting a regular pretty much good studio condenser But with an interface. Yeah, yeah, so I would say that that's generally what's going to solve the problem It's going to you know, it's going to stop the sibilants. It's going to stop You know not sounding the way it should yeah I mean that that that capsule of the microphone might have a natural resonance or this would that create those Extremely strong s's right right exactly and also USB mics another thing It's a frustrating about them is is there fiddly to adjust the settings Yeah, you have to do it through you either have to do it through a computer interface or or through the the OS yeah, either through or there's tiny little You know there might be knobs on the mic. There might be some funky little multi-function Button knob thing it always feels fiddly because you're going like this Is that it how how's that sound you know? Yeah, it's like controls on a microphone Suck in on any kind of directed live session on zoom anything because as soon as they say adjust your gain That's what they hear, you know, so if you have a physical box Where you can adjust everything just a little bit so much better for a professional session Yeah, it's you really do need to have an interface, you know a good and I think this is a good digital interface Doesn't cost a lot. No, they're very expensive. What's yeah, what's the difference between say a good interface and a cheaper interface? Generally, it's the preamp and how much Has right and then how and then how many bells and whistles Right, and do you need all the bells and whistles? All you need is to take your voice the analog sound that your microphone is capturing Goes through the wire into the interface as an analog sound and then it changes into the ones and zeros that your computer understands Yeah, you know along with with the preamplifier inside the digitized through the analog to digital Converter right right so get yourself a better mic and a good interface and that will solve that problem And if you can't afford those that's what credit cards are for Yeah, I mean it they're good quality audio is affordable right it is now for sure all right Patricia Andrea Watching us on YouTube says I'm in Jacksonville, Florida and having a hard time finding voiceover coaches. Could you recommend one virtually? Virtually recommend one. I can virtually say this person or you can you could virtually go to this person There's a lot of good coaches out there We've had them on this show Callous type coach VOBS You'll see you'll see all the most every coach we've ever ever interviewed on YouTube I mean yeah, I've worked in and we've worked had to work virtually in the last two years anyway Yeah, so I mean I'll put it up. I'll put it put in a plug for my pal Rick Wasserman. He's very good He does a lot remotely. Yeah, my coach Dave Walsh who we've had on the show many times He's he's got a great system and way of teaching how to do You know, you're true your true voice and really becoming showing you how to become the spot And and sound like you know what you're talking about Yeah, and I don't mean I don't want to come off as being you know, LA Hollywood boy, but Smaller markets, it's gonna be a little harder to find a great coach, right? You might get lucky there might be a great voice actor who's coaching in your town It's just far less likely that that's gonna be the case. So Really, it's better off. You do search farther afield. I think so anyway, there's some good coaches in New York Yeah, and there's great coaches here in LA and there's good ones in Dallas, right? And there's good ones in Miami, right? They're they're definitely around but you know, it's gonna be harder in smaller markets So yeah, Rick Wasserman's bookable vo.com. That's where he coaches and mark cash and more cashmen The cashman commercials calm and Dave Walsh voiceover coaching. I think yeah, I mean gosh I I mean, I'm serious type in good go to YouTube type V OBS space coach and you'll find every Every episode we've ever done with a coach because we put the coach and then You know, we say that they're a coach in the name. So you should be able to find one show. Yeah Rich green. This is a George. Hey rich If you could have only one plug in in your stack What would it be? Only one plug in one. Well, I can cheat and then tell you one plug in that does everything Do tell wait waves ships Omni-channel I've heard you mentioned that one before it is literally like it's called omni-channel because it's the one to rule them all right So you have that one plug in you get everything you get if you get a full channel strip You get you know preamp compression eq expander Parametric equal, you know, all the all the bells and whistles are in one plug in Okay, so that's kind of like a sort of a desert island Plug-in which I kind of feel like it's cheating because it's really a lot of plug-in There's a lot of different things in one plug-in. So I don't know if that's what you were asking If that's what you mean, but if I had literally one effect that I could use on anything It would probably be Some kind of dynamics processing Yeah, I don't know TDR Nova is one that's nice because it's free. Have you played around with that one? I don't I don't play with this stuff. I don't need it Everything sounds great coming out of my voice and into the mic. You heard it here first folks No, I wish but the TDR Nova is a one that a lot of people like because it is free and it has the compressor and A couple bands of EQ and it'll let you do de-essing which Still is an issue for some folks with no matter what microphone they have so I don't know. There's a few ideas. I tend to find that usually whatever system you whatever DAW you're using Has effects in it that you have complete control over. Yeah I mean I was gonna ask you what platform because you know reapers got a whole ton of sweet of them Twisted wave has all the audio units plugins made by Apple Adobe Audition has an incredible arrangement of Included plugins, right? So, I mean pretty much every one of them even audacity little You know, that's the plugins are pretty Hater-miss, but but the Apple ones work great. Yeah AU the AU plugins are really good Yeah, and I haven't plugins. They're just generally a standard Well, that's your your DAW will generally say well, this is what we use. Oh, it'll it'll just recognize it twisted wave has it audacity Recognizes it. Yeah, Adobe Audition. Yeah, Adobe Audition has it has some of the good ones. Yeah, whenever he's audition I never even I never honestly load an AU plug and a Apple audio unit plugin Because it's already there like everything's in there. Everything is everything you need. Yeah, J Horace Black. Yeah, J We can always count on J to give us a good question. Absolutely says hey, George and Dan That would be you and me. I need new earpads for my Harlan Hogan H2 cans Can we use any replacements that are listed online or is there a certain type that will fit them? Harlan has them and He will replace them. Yeah, you definitely first start with Harlan if you liked the ones that were there Start there, right? If you want to try something different I'm using aftermarket earpads on these headphones the earcup shape on these audio technicas is really similar I haven't tried these with Harlan's but I feel like I feel like 95% sure these would fit They're on my gear recommendation recommendations page. I can't remember what they're called. Sorry These headphones have been through the mill. I mean look at the headband Even these are replacement and they're getting torn up But they're so thick and comfortable, but I really really and they have that velvet Coating I find them to be really comfortable. So I'm sorry for not remembering the name But check my gear recommendations area But yeah, ask ask Harlan if you're if you like the memory foam Leather pads that their his stuff comes with and just go right to the source. Absolutely, you know and Finally, John O'Rourke asks I have an Audient ID 14 and now have a new vocal booth or Vios Vio booth in my studio Yeah, I want to record in the booth But edit and mix in the bigger original studio sure it is within the bigger studio. Yeah, where should the ID 14? Be oh, I feel like it should be in the booth But then what would be the best way to control the audio for playback the computer is in Iraq in the bigger studio I do have a Mackey mixer and amp I can use they are not part of the current voiceover setup No, I should be probably both out of answer for this. Yeah, well my answer is you know I've just it comes with experience because I've been doing this so long I know by looking at a script and knowing how on how loud I'm going to be Where to set the level initially and all my stuff is yeah, you're not in there twiddling with I don't want to be doing Yeah, if I'm doing a lot of You know if it's a you know if it's if I'm doing a video game or something like that or I have to be loud in some places You know hey get out of your car, you know like man. I'm gonna see your driver's license registration if I've got a change You know my volume a little bit. I Can do it physically with the mic if I'm going to yell I can turn away from the mic Because we don't yell into people's ears. Yeah, I mean when you yell in a voiceover booth You're not really truly yelling unless you're doing a video game death Yeah, but like most a lot of stuff you're not really yelling you're not really Whispering, you know But yeah, I I agree. I you know, I always tell people don't Set it and forget it once you know a range where the game should be you probably have one or two Well, I would say two or three met the most yelling go to set in conversational yelling and you know If you have it in there just set it like that or if you're gonna do something loud and something soft record The soft stuff first and then do the loud stuff. So I'm gonna do the opposite idea Okay, which is because these are both valid if you really do feel like you want to have that gain knob at your fingertips Mm-hmm. You don't have to have your studio monitors plugged into the Audience directly mm-hmm, or if you do you don't have to use the audience own volume knob to control that So you've got a mixer you could run the outputs of the of the audience through your mixer And now use that as your levels for your speakers. You can get a really simple little passive Volume control box that you can stick by your speakers and have a control of its own, right? So there are a couple of ways that you could actually hand work around that and the really the really dirty way is you just plug Your speakers with a Y a Y adapter right into your computer headphone jack And just use built-in sound for playback, right? You might get some buzz you might get some ground loops, you know, it's not a great not the best thing Just keep it clean and straight and there's little things in between is possible and that's usually it makes the best audio Yeah, Jeff Holman gets the last question though. All right, which is pretty simple What's your favorite travel mic for using in hotel rooms? My tried-and-true it just happens to be lying right here My old epigee mic That's the original right the original that still works great. Oh, it's it's a little tarnished, you know It's been it's been really used on the road. It's look at that sucker, man The thing is, you know, it's been through it and has and I booked work off of it And I have recorded work with it. There you go. And it's you know, what's nice about this It has an actual just an actual physical volume game dial game down. Yes Yes, but I love it. The missus does not like seeing this go into my suitcase. So you have to sneak it in there Yeah, it's it's not coming with me to Morocco. Good for you, man Three weeks off to not do any of that anyway, thanks for your questions guys and You can write to us anytime at again so the guys at v obs dot tv And ask, you know, write your questions to us if it just suddenly cursed you in the middle of the week Oh, I got to ask Dan and George this question That's the ability but you can always Watch and ask if you're watching the show live. 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